Caray, Caray!

FATMAGUL:

I have a work event this evening. I'm hoping to watch the episode before bed, but I definitely won't have a recap up tonight. I'll try tomorrow.
 

Fatma: Vivi, we are patiently waiting. Take care of business first.
Romy
 

TELEMUNDO...

"La Casa de al Lado" begins tomorrow replacing "Los Herederos del Monte"

Maritza Rodríguez
Gabriel Porras
Catherine Siachoque
Miguel Varoni
Karla Monroig
Jorge Luis Pila
David Chocarro
Henry Zakka
Ximena Duque
Sofía Lama
Rosalinda Rodríguez
and more,

 

EVA LA TRAILERA – LUNES – Parte 1 de 2

I watched later than usual and got to the recap later, so this will be brief.

We see some time passing. The honeymooners in Las Vegas look completely miserable. Eva’s lawyer tells her she ought to plead out to a lesser charge.

More idiotic legal goings on. Pablo is finally released and no charges will be filed in the death of Chivo. But he’s going to lose his PI license for two years and his weapons carry permit for life. [If what he did isn’t considered a crime, then why the punishment?]

Adriana gets out of the Vegas hotel room and calls Bobby asking him to come get her. I was confused about the phone. Did she buy it in a store? Anyway AA shows up and she hangs up before telling Bobby where she is.

When Eva’s trial resumes the “judge” comes out with a real jaw-dropper. Vamos a retomar el caso contra Eva Soler por su presunta culpabilidad de homicidio de su sobrina, Sofía Soler. [What???? He says they’re continuing with the case against Eva for her alleged guilt in the homicide…. Whatever happened to presumed innocent until proven guilty?]

Pablo arrives and says in open court that the trial should be anulado (cancelled). He also says the trial is viciado (flawed). He goes on to say that Betty should be disqualified. The judge takes the lawyers and Pablo into chambers. [So, among the other goofy flaws in this plot, why couldn’t Martín have gone to the judge ages ago with the same declaration about Betty.]

Cinthia has made an appointment to get Bobby’s mole taken off by a dermatologist. Since she’s said it has a risk of being cancerous, then she likely is referring to a mole rather than a birthmark. But Bobby gets the call from Adriana and rushes out.

Pablo makes his case in front of the judge, but Betty says he has no proof that she knew he was involved with Eva Soler. The judge lets the trial go on, but gives Pablo a chance to find some proof. The judge then tells Betty that, if this proof is found, she’ll be out of the DA’s office and he’ll personally see to it that she’s disbarred.

Pancho and Bobby play a little soccer while Noemi comes to see Soraya to keep her informed about what’s going on at Casa Montes-Soler.

In chambers Eva’s idiot lawyer says this conversation doesn’t make sense. He tells Pablo that knowing about their relationship would have prejudiced the jury. Pablo scornfully tells him that he’s a great advocate for Eva.

Outside chambers Pablo tells Eva what was going on inside and that Betty was his lover before. Eva turns on him and says that she’s drowning because of him. She breaks it off with him again!
 

EVA LA TRAILERA – LUNES – Parte 2 de 2

Pancho finds out in a restroom that Cinthia wants to have Bobby’s mole removed, but neither he nor Soraya connect the dots that the Monteverdes may now know what’s up with the Mogollones.

Andy the Asqueroso calls his sister, saying he’s fed up with Adriana. He has to give her drugs all the time to keep her from leaving him.

Pablo and Martín brainstorm how to prove that Betty knew about Pablo’s relationship with Eva. But nothing really jells.

Soraya, Pancho, and Bobby come to see Pablo. Pablo assumes that Bobby is Pancho’s son, for the resemblance. What they want is to track down Adriana. Jota Jota to the rescue!

Fabi is not wanting to eat her food at the dinner table. Armando yells at her. Fabi starts rocking and wailing. Bertha takes her to the kitchen. Armando says to Marlene: “Go ahead and spit your poison!” Marlene says she’s just telling him what he knows and that an institution would be the best thing for Fabi. Armando is onto her now. He looks coldly at her and says: “That’s what you want, isn’t it?”

Betty is tucked up in bed and tells the baby bump that its father is impulsive but the baby will see how content he’ll be when he finds out it’s on its way. [Ha!] Betty then calls Marisol saying that her ahijado wants to know if Marisol is still mad at her mother. Marisol tells her to stop manipulating her with the kid and says she’s too busy to talk.

Armando and Marlene go into their bedroom. Armando: “Stop pretending to be a good person with me. You manipulated me to separate me from Adriana and now I don’t even know where she is or what she’s doing! Fabiola is my little daughter. She needs me, and she’s staying here. If you keep insisting, the one who’s going is you! And I don’t mean to the little house by the pool but to hell! I’m getting fed up with this, Marlene. Don’t mess with me!” Her face looks like Medusa without the snakes.
 

TELEMUNDO...

"El Señor de los Cielos 4" begins 28 march 2016,
hmm, but that's a Monday, and the day after Easter.

 

Eva

ah novelera, I can see your tv has some new dents,
but you give us such wonderful recaps anyway.

yes, there was a weird scene where Adriana got the phone, (and she still has it)

but hey, I think Bobby looks more like Henry Zakka (Robert)

yes, the good Armando, is in over his head.

there was one moment in this story that I really enjoyed, when Pablo walked into the courtroom and asked the judge for a mistrial, and Eva smiled, a ray of hope.

 

Eva
Many thanks, novelera, for another excellent recap. I found it very helpful, including the Spanish. (Hmmm...I suppose I should stop confessing how much help I need to understand the novela, especially since I plan to do a recap of tonight's episode. :-) But it's nonetheless true. )

One thing I did understand in terms of the Spanish but certainly didn't in terms of common sense or Real Life was the crazy resolution of Pablo's detention. I have nothing to add to your excellent question. Nor, for that matter, to another excellent question you asked, this time about the judge's "jaw-dropper." This novela would be so much better if the writers paid even a little attention to reality. Admittedly, it's a telenovela, so reality can only go so far, but....

I was quite nervous watching Pancho playing soccer with Bobby. Pancho seemed so out of breath that I feared he might have a heart attack right there. I wonder whether this is simply preparation for it to happen later. I hope not!

When Andy the Asqueroso was talking to Marlacula, I was hoping that Adriana wasn't really so out of it and was overhearing everything he said. No such luck, apparently. She's unhappy with him and with her life, but I don't think she yet understands just how evil he is, nor how he is controlling her via drugs and alcohol.

And what's with Eva? Why should she expect that Pablo would/should have told her about a relationship with Betty that he felt was over? Should he also have told her whom he kissed in 6th grade? I'm just hoping Eva gets over this latest bout of stupidity sooner rather than later. There are only so many stupidities I can handle at one time.

Wow, if looks could kill (and if the looks are from Marlene, they probably can), Armando's days are numbered. Though it's hard to believe the writers would kill him off any time soon. Or, for that matter, at all, since he's the father of Adriana and Fabiola. You nailed it perfectly, novelera, "Medusa without the snakes."
 

Eva. Another excellent recap, novelera, and you certainly nailed some of the inconsistencies. I suspect that Pablo's lack of a PI license and gun will turn out to be important down the line, ridiculous though the premise for it was. The judge's lack of presumption of innocence is probably because (I think, though am not sure) that he is operating under some kind of Justinian/Napoleonic Code kind of legal procedure which governs legal procedure in a lot of continental Europe and Latin America. Unlike under our British Common Law heritage, the accused is not automatically presumed innocent. In real life, I believe, that has caused some problems for Americans accused of crimes in Italy in recent years. It's just more evidence the the writers know absolutely nothing about the US legal system. I wonder if despite the burner nature of Adriana's phone Soraya and Pancho will manage to track her down anyway (despite the initial failure) for their beloved son.
 

FATMAGUL: Turkish Episode 56/US Episode 59, Monday, 2/29/16
Part 1: Fatma, having just visited her distressed brother Rahmi in prison, hears Munir’s indecent proposal—drop the rape charges, and we’ll drop the assault charges against your brother. Munir gives Fatma until 2pm the next day to decide, and show up at the D.A.’s office to drop the rape charges. Kerim tells Munir off, and hustles Fatma out of there, along with Kadir. But the seed has been planted. Kerim heads off to some mysterious errand, while Kadir drives Fatma home. In the car, Fatma asks about what would happen with Rahmi if the Yasaran dropped the charges. There would still be a case, but Rahmi would likely just get off with having to pay a fine, and would be released within days. Kadir senses where Fatma is going with this, and urges her not to give in to the Yasaran blackmail. Fatma blames herself for her family’s suffering. Her brother can’t survive in prison. Whether she drops the case or not, it won’t make a difference. She will always carry the burden and pain of the rape.

At home, Meryem receives an unexpected visitor—Kadir’s old friend Humeyra. She drops off the gifts Kadir bought in Antalya when they visited his in-laws, but he forgot when left in a hurry to help Rahmi. Humeyra expresses her support for the family during this trying time. Then she tells Meryem about the positive change she’s seen in Kadir recently, and that she knows Meryem in the reason for that change. She surprises Meryem by telling her how much Kadir admires and loves her, but he’s just too damned shy to tell her. Off course, Mukaddes listens in on all of this, and just has to start teasing a very embarrassed Meryem about it afterwards.

Knowing her husband well, Fatma calls Kerim to find out what he’s really up to. Turns out he went to the rich people’s hospital. No, not to harass the Yasaran men (he promises to avoid them), but to speak to Doctora Nil, to both warn her about Erdogan and the Yasaran, and to send them a message via Nil. He tells Nil about the Yasaran’s indecent proposal, and tells her to pass on the message that they’ll NEVER negotiate with RATS like them. He tells her that he knows she confused, and is searching for a reason to believe the Yasaran. But, there is only ONE truth.

Once Kerim is back home, the house becomes a battlefield. Mukaddes is laying on the pressure and guilt, telling Fatma that it’s all her fault that Rahmi is in jail, and she has to drop the rape charges. At one point, Murat overhears this, runs away from the house, and then lashes out at Fatma, who is heartbroken. “I don’t love you anymore! I hate you!” Mukaddess also uses Elif to manipulate Fatma, both denying Fatma access to her, then turning around and putting her in Fatma’s arms, pointing out how Elif will one day wonder why there are no pictures of her and her father when she was little, and how Rahmi will miss her first smile.

Kerim nearly comes to blows with Mukaddes, twice. Mukaddes says he lost his chance to play Fatma’s hero the night he let her get raped, and that the two of them wouldn’t be married now, if it weren’t for HER. Kerim tells her she’s just as bad as the Yasaran. The second blowup comes when Kerim catches Mukaddes on the phone with Munir, trying to make a deal about Fatma dropping the charges. “I don’t understand how you could dare negotiate with that man!”

Meryem decides to fight Mukaddes’ pressure with some of her own. She brings the box of letters from women who have been affected by rape, who now see Fatma as a hero. Mukaddes counters that these are just pieces of paper, while her husband is flesh and blood. Meryem points out that these women are very real too. “Tell them that you’re not the brave woman they thought. Tell them that you’re a coward. Tell them that they’re alone! You’re going to take away their hope. This isn’t just your case anymore. Read them, then make a decision.”
 

FATMAGUL: Monday, Part 2:
Fatma is clearly stuck between a rock and a hard place. She and Kerim speak alone and she tells him, “I’m not confused. It’s my case or my brother. I have to give one up. No one can understand me, not even you.” Kerim tells her that if she gives up, she’ll never be able to heal. “You can’t give up your future and hand it to them. If they are guilty, then why should you be the one to get punished? If you give up now, your suffering will last your whole life.” Fatma reminds him how she supported him when he decided to turn himself in, and brought the charges against the Yasaran. “They can’t hurt me more than they already have, but I can’t permit them to hurt those around me. I’m going to drop the charges.”

In other news, Serdat, Mustafa’s fisherman friend, has found a boat for Mustafa. A boat that can go anywhere, including Istanbul. Serdat calls, and tells Hacer, who was not in the loop. She asks Mustafa if he was planning on escaping without her. His lips say he loves her and he wasn’t planning on leaving her, but his eyes say something else, and it’s obvious that Hacer knows it.

The next day arrives, and Fatma is faced with one of the biggest choice she’s ever had to make. She goes to work in the restaurant with Mehmet, while Kerim sits outside, watching the rain. Meryem arrives, bringing a guest with her—one of the women who wrote Fatma—to show Fatma the very real lives/hopes that are depending on her. She tells Fatma the story of her young daughter who was raped, and has been unable to speak since.

Meanwhile, Kadir goes to visit Rahmi, who has been moved to the hospital because of his painful and spreading red stress blotches all over his body. Kadir tells Rahmi about the Yasaran blackmail. Rahmi calls Fatma. “I’ll never speak to you again if you do it. They did something terrible to you. Don’t let them win! Please, do it for me little sister. Don’t give up because of me.”

In the hospital, Munir and the Yasaran men are positively glowing from all the gloating they are doing. They are sure that Fatma will give in, and that by 2pm, Selim and Erdogan will be completely cleared of the rape charges. Perihan rolls into Erdogan’s hospital room in her wheelchair, to throw ice cold water on their glee. She’s just handed Yadigar, her faithful housekeeper, the briefcase of evidence of the Yasaran men’s involvement with Turaner’s downfall, with instructions to hand it to the police if she doesn’t hear from her. She tells the Yasaran men that they are going to drop the assault charges before 2pm, before Fatma meets Munir, or else she’s giving the evidence to the police. “I won’t let you blackmail that poor girl. I warned you about hurting that girl and her family.” Resat actually threatens his wife with physical harm, telling her she won’t get the chance to give the cops the evidence. “I took precautions. Someone is waiting for my call. It’s in your hands, Resat. You’ve destroyed families. You’ve done enough damage. Stop your evil games.” And just like that, Perihan grabs up four sets of balls with one hand, and twists—her brother, her husband, her son, and her nephew are all at her mercy and must obey. Munir goes to the D.A. and drops the charges against Rahmi. Woohoo!!

Fatma and Kerim drive to the D.A.’s office to meet Munir. She hears everyone’s voices ringing in her ears, and Rahmi’s last words to her not to give up. A gentle snow starts to fall as she and Kerim walk towards Munir, who’s exiting the building. She remembers how Munir and Mukaddes bullied, shamed and pressured her after the rape. Her eyes get a steely determined look. Munir, thinking he can still play her, despite knowing he’s already had to drop the assault charges, tries to hustle Fatma into the D.A.’s office to drop the rape charges. But Fatma has made up her mind, and looks up at him defiantly. “I’m not going to renounce my case! Don’t even think that you’re going to shut me up!” Kerim beams with pride. Munir looks like he’s just been slapped.
 

FATMAGUL: Monday, Part 3:
A few days pass, as Istanbul gets ready to start the new year. The houses and shops are filled with holiday lights and decorated trees. Erdogan is released from the hospital, but before he returns home, he stops to see Dr. Nil to continue to try to convince her that Fatma is some lying harpy, who’s trying to destroy his reputation and nearly cost him his life. She calls him a liar and tells him how Kerim told her about their attempted blackmail of Fatma. Erdogan makes one last play—pointing out how he dropped the assault charges, expecting nothing in return. She can find the evidence herself, and see that the rape charges are still in play.

At home, Erdogan and Selim are depressed about how close they came to freedom, until it was messed up by Selim’s traitorous mama. Erdogan also blames Kerim’s influence on Fatma. He’s sure Fatma would have given in long ago, if it weren’t for him. Erdogan stews in his anger.

At Kadir’s house, the family and Omer happily celebrate Rahmi’s return with a special dinner. No one can understand why the Yasaran dropped the charges, demanding nothing in return. Rahmi entertains them with stories of his prison mates. Meryem is super awkward around poor Kadir, who tries to bring up Humeyra’s visit. Mukaddes is thankfully cheerful and focused on Rahmi. The music plays, and everyone urges Fatma and Kerim to dance. This is their third slow dance, and this time, Fatma barely takes her eyes from Kerim’s. She so lost in his eyes that she’s not the least bit shy about the whole family watching them, and has to be told that her cell phone is ringing.

Fatma picks up the call from an unknown number. She hears the voice of her worst nightmare, Erdogan, once again addressing her with a perverse familiarity. “Congratulations. Your brother is back. You don’t need to thank me, but don’t forget this favor. Now you can use that wedding dress in your armoire.”

Fatma is so upset, that the family all immediately ask what’s wrong. She tells them it was Erdogan and what he said. They all realize that not only did he park in front of the house when they found his car, but that he also got IN the house and IN Fatma’s room! They all freak out. Kerim has to be held back from going to kill Erdogan right at that moment. “That asshole came into our house and more than likely touched Fatma’s dress! He touched our lives!” Kerim runs to the armoire, takes out the wedding dress, and starts tearing it to shreds. Fatma looks on in shock. When Kerim looks up and sees the hurt in Fatma’s eyes as she looks at the heap of lacey scraps on the floor, he finally stops, and is horrified by what he’s done.

-End of episode.
 

Eva. And Andy did offer to kill Adriana. Marlene would only have to have said the word.
 

EVA

Thank you novelera! Not an enviable task, but you put your usual sparkle into the retelling of a confusing saga (confusing mainly because of the inconsistency and implausibility these writers are are imposing on us. My Spanish is poor enough, but when nothing makes sense, I'm at a total loss.

"Eva’s lawyer tells her she ought to plead out to a lesser charge." This, and all the legal idiocy that followed was unbelievable to me.

You know with all the opaque and misdirected plot action in this crazy story, how on earth did Cinthia deduce that Soraya is Bobby's mom with a single glance at the lunar on her hip. The writers (and I'm beginning to picture a gang of monkeys behind typewriters) are playing fast and loose with us.

I'm going to cut Eva some slack about her treatment of Pablo, after all her life is completely ruined on all fronts and she hasn't even known this guy that long and it's only gone from bad to worse. But I agree with Juanita "Should he also have told her whom he kissed in 6th grade?" She's being unfair, but I don't think she's capable of sorting it out.

SpanProf "Pablo's lack of a PI license and gun will turn out to be important down the line" I had the same thought.

This episode was just one beanie-tightening moment after another. Gah!!!!

deb: thanks for keeping us up to date with broadcast developments.


 

Eva. You know, those silly telenovelas set in a fantasy Houston or an unrecognizable Mexico City, or unnamed Latin American country, could have all the inconsistencies they wanted, and it didn't bother me a bit. In fact, it was high camp and very amusing. But Eva had the potential to be something better than that. It's what bothers me about this tn.
 

Fatma: Thanks Vivi. I also think Munir's look like it showed some respect for Fatma. Like he is surprised about how strong Fatma was when she said she wasn't dropping the charges. And they reallyy reallyyy should do something about those anger moments of Kerim. At moments like these Fatma is already burning and then he comes along and throws some extra gasoline just in case the fire hasn't caught up far enough. And the poor dress got the worst of it. Fatma looked sad and Kerim looked like "WTF did I just do?" Lol. Did you see how Fatma flinched when Kerim said "like he touched our life before". Bad choice of words too. Kerim means well but tone it down boy. Very well acted as usual. Mukka likes to take credit for the marriage but not selling Fatma to the Y for money. I am happy Rahmi is out and at least, Peri did some good.
Romy
 

FATMAGUL:

Romy- Yeah, sometimes I wish they would tape Kerim's mouth shut and tie him to a chair, until his anger passes and he doesn't do or say something insensitive. Most of the time he's a sensitive and thoughtful person, but when he's in the heat of anger...forget about it! Although, I do like seeing him go after Mukaddes, and am shocked that he didn't start blowing up at her until now.

Perihan rolled up in there like a boss. Munir, Resat, Erdogan and Selim didn't even know what hit them. Same with Munir when Fatma faced him down and told him she would not be silenced. Woman power!
 

Fatma: Vivi, yes, women power. Fatma was so touched by the woman and her daughter. They will be more to come of that so stay tuned. Mukka is something else, uh. Yes, Peri owned them suckers like a boss. Good for her.
Romy
 

Eva

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I'm fairly frustrated with where they're going in this show.

One thing I love and would prefer to lame telenovela legal proceedings is the relationship between Pancho and Soraya. It was SO cute last night when he said he hadn't seen the lunar in a while; and, when she offered to give him a peek, he jumped off his seat like a 20 year old.

Re Cinthia figuring it out, you could say bad writing. But you could also say she's been suspicious of Soraya's not-well-hidden attraction to Bobby. She thought it was sexual, but I guess putting the mole together with all the kind of inappropriate reaching out to a neighbor's son by both Pancho and Soraya helped Cinthia's not impressive intellect to the conclusion she reached.

Regarding some thoughts some of you have expressed about Armando's being killed by Marlene, I don't see that happening. If he died right now she'd get nothing. They are not married. As far as we know he's still legally married to Eva. And I don't think he's looking at her as wife material right now. She can only manipulate him so far with sex. Whatever you might say about Armando, he does love his children. Marlene has been less than subtle about getting them out of the picture.

And, of course, it's completely absurd that he doesn't even know his daughter has married the evil Andy. Normal people would have tried reaching their daughter in NYC. Normal people would have completely freaked out when they couldn't reach her by cell. Normal people would have called NYU or wherever she's supposed to be enrolled to find out if she'd registered for classes or was reachable at the college.

More legal griping. Betty's getting away with saying she didn't know about Pablo and Eva's relationship drives me nuts. Her prosecuting the new girlfriend of a guy she'd dated should be an automatic mistrial no matter what. In the real world judges don't like to be overturned on appeal. He'd surely be overruled when Betty's crap came out.
 

EVA

novelera, Again, your blazing intellect breaks through the fog of this train wreck. I'm doing my best with the tin foil beanie and it aint working'. Do I turn my schedule upside down to accommodate the 8 o'clock show? (which is starting to look mighty appealing right now.) You're probably right about Cinthia and Soraya's lunar, but it seems like such a longshot, I confess it would never have occurred to me that such a thing was even possible, let alone happening right under my nose. Especially when all the "smart" people are running around in an alternate universe with their heads in paper bags. I also agree that they can't kill off Armando (not yet anyway). He's the major villain and nothing is likely to happen to him until the últimos (how long is that, exactly?) they're doing a good job of showing his underdeveloped morality breaking through in places, but not enough to provide safety for his children, I'm afraid. I know he loves Fabiola, but earlier on, he was irked by her disability. I'm afraid it's all about Armando. He's vain & opportunistic. Selfishness is his strongest suit.

 

Eva
After complaining a lot about this novela, I read through the recaps of ¿Quién es Quién? on 5ft's site over the weekend, and then I tried to watch last night's episode. I was relieved when it was over and Eva began! Perhaps I'd have felt differently if I had watched it from the start, but it just didn't work for me. It felt frenetic and tired at the same time, if that's possible (and, of course, on a telenovela, anything is possible :-) ). I don't think I'll continue watching Quién. Instead, I'll put in a large order of extra-strength beanies and keep watching Eva.
 

Eva. Juanita: And perhaps we're performing a public service. Maybe if Eva's writers are reading this blog they'll take note of the criticisms and do better with their next telenovela. One can always hope! :)
 

Eva

Juanita, thanks for the heads up about Quién. I had read a couple of comments praising it and wondered if I'd backed the wrong horse. I also need a larger supply of tinfoil beanies for the trial. I'll really be disgusted if she's declared guilty and we get a lot more prison episodes. I want to get to the part where she goes after Armando and Marlene!
 

Eva
I hate to say it,novelera, but I suspect that Eva will be found guilty and will be sent to prison. I don't see the novela having created characters like Federica and just letting them drop. Not to mention the fact that if a likeable character is on trial early in a novela, chances are s/he will be found guilty and sent to prison. A different outcome? ¡No puede ser!
 

Eva

Just a quick note to say that I'll be doing a recap of tonight's episode and expect to have it posted sometime tomorrow morning.
 

Fatma

Enjoyed the recap since I didnt watch live. So glad fatma held her ground despite the fear for her brother and bullying and manipulatiins of memeMuka. It helped her that Rhami told her to stand her ground as well.

Vivi...I too expected Kerim to have put memeMuka in check by now. He has been strong and defensive of her against everyone but Muka...disappointed in this. He and Ebe knew what Muka was about epearly own and I wanted him to tell Muka to back off Fama shortly after declaring his feelings.

Perihan has balls and shes tired of the crap the men in her family are spinning. She has a heart and common sense....so glad she's standing for whats right and decent. Cant say that for her sister...who is selfish and weak like the Y men.



Nett
 

FATMAGUL:
Thanks, Nett. I think the reason why Meryem and Kerim held their anger at Mukaddes back so long was to try to maintain some peace in the household. I think early on Kerim saw himself as an interloper. Not really Fatma's husband, not really a part of the family, even living in the shed, and didn't feel it was his place to interfere. I think now he sees himself as her true husband, and as such has a right to challenge Muka on how she treats Fatma.

Thing is, it doesn't even matter how much you tell at or their the truth in Muka's face. She'll never change and she'll never accept the wrong she's done.
 

Fatma:
Typos: How much you yell at her or throw the truth in her face.
 

Fatmagul

Vivi you aptly described Peri, she rolled up in there and did some hard squeezing of those b..... Those guys looked at her like what the hell. I was elated like you go Peri, thanks for supporting this woman who has been so taken advantage of. Yeah, Fatma defiantly stared Murir down down. He was in awe of her resolve. As for Kerim, when he goes ballistic, he can create havoc. My heart bled for Fatma when he crasily tore that wedding dress. Thanks Vivi for all you do on these recaps. Appreciate it.
 

EVA LA TRAILERA - MARTES - Parte 1 de 3

There weren't many upbeat moments in this episodio. It begins with Armando feeling regretful and uncomfortable with Marlene, but as usual she knows how to win him over, or at least arouse his animal passion. He recognizes her cheap tricks (trucos baratos), but he falls for them nonetheless. Afterwards, she wonders to herself how it is that she is so attracted to him, a divine animal, but when all is said and done, an animal. She continues thinking to herself that this business has worked out very well for her. She has a house, an business, and a man. This time, she thinks, she has to thank Eva for having left her "el macho."

Moving right along from one bed to another, we find JJ and Marisol enjoying each other's, um, company. She tells him that she has a godchild on the way and that she's delighted to be a godmother. He asks whether he knows the mother, but his ploy doesn't work. She deflects the question, and they soon get back to, um, business.

Meanwhile, Eva is praying to the God she hasn't spoken to in years. "Please don't let them condemn me. You know that I am innocent.". She then prays to the Virgin, who is a mother, to help her and not let that miserable wretch harm Adriana. Covering all the bases, she then prays to her dead father. She remembers telling her father that when she grows up, she wants to be a trailera like him. He tells her that such a career isn't for pretty girls like her, but rather for brutes like him who don't know how to treat pretty girls like her. Well, she replies, in that case teach me how to fight and to defend myself against the brutes.

While Eva is praying, Pablo is working frantically at 3:00 a.m. to complete his thesis. He explains to his father that it's urgent that he graduate law school because Eva is going to need his help.

Pablo is right. The jury returns a verdict of guilty of first-degree murder. The judge sentences her to 25 years in prison.

Betty's staff congratulate her in her office. I was just doing my job, Betty tells them. It's necessary to uproot the weeds in order for the flowers to grow (Hay que arrancar la maleza para que nazcan flores, ¿no?). Though Betty looks happy in front of her staff, her expression becomes much darker after they leave. Marisol enters and tells Betty that what troubles her (Marisol) most about this whole business is that "your child, my godchild, is breathing in and absorbing all the hatred you feel for Eva Soler." Betty seems for a moment to be regretting what she has done, but it soon becomes clear that she's sorry only because now Pablo is not going to forgive her. "I've just killed all possibility of having a future with him."

One of the few semi-bright spots in the episode involves Soraya and Pancho. Whatever is in the air has affected them as well, and so we find them, too, in bed, after having made love (a phrase that fits them, but not the earlier couples). Lovemaking has apparently been good for Soraya's brain, because she suddenly puts together Cinthia's astonishment when they both had massages and Pancho's telling her that Cinthia wants Bobby to have his birthmark removed. She tells Pancho with alarm that "Cinthia and Robert know that Bobby is our son!" Pancho thinks that in that case, he and Soraya should take the first step and tell Bobby that he's their son. Soraya doesn't agree. She thinks Bobby first needs to know them better. Pancho says that it's better to act now before Cinthia and Robert claim that we threw him in the garbage (le pueden decir hasta que lo tiramos a la basura).
 

EVA LA TRAILERA - MARTES - Parte 2 de 3

At the prison, Eva's fellow prisoners commiserate with her. They know she is innocent, they say. However, one prisoner taunts her, but another threatens to kill the taunter unless she takes back what she says. Eva is summoned to the visitor's area, where she finds Pablo. He assures her that he wants to help her, he will be her lawyer, they will make an appeal, she isn't alone. La terca replies that she wants nothing to do with him. It's over. She never want to see him again. She has lost everything. Fabiola will be sent to an institution. They continue to talk. He has lied to her, she says. He has put her in the hands of his novecita. She asks him why he never told her about Betty. He replies that he didn't do so because the only person important to him before Eva was Diego's mother, may she rest in peace. Nothing persuades Eva. She tells him never to visit her again. He tells her that he doesn't believe her and that he's going to get her out of there.

The scene shifts back to Betty's office, where she tells Marisol that although Eva is rotting in prison, Pablo won't come back to Betty. [Ya think?] Marisol decides to change the subject and shows her a baby outfit that she has bought for Betty's baby. Just then, the Devil walks into the office in the form of Maracula. She congratulates Betty for her good work in sending Eva to prison. Marisol exits. Maracula says that she has come primarily to ask about Pablo Contreras. What were the arguments he wanted to use to annul the trial? Betty tells her they were nothing important. She refuses to tell Maracula anything, whereupon Maracula says, "You're pregnant." Betty denies this, saying that the baby outfit on her desk is for a friend. Well, replies Maracula, good luck to your friend. Tell her that she's going to need it.

At the Monteverdes', Bobby is asking Robert about some numbers in a document. Robert replies that the document is a detailed budget for constructing a luxury complex at the beach. Yes, says Bobby, but the figures are all screwed up.I don't understand. His supportive father tells him that he doesn't have the preparation or the brains for this, and he should just sign the document.

Meanwhile, the love of Bobby's life, Adriana, is trying to escape from her hotel room, but the door is locked. She then gets her phone from under her pillow and sees that she has 8 missed calls. Just then, Andy the Asqueroso returns. She hides the phone. He tells her he has something for her. She tells him that if it's alcohol or drugs, she's not interested. She just wants to go home. It turns out that what Andy has brought her is a magazine with full coverage (with a cover photo) of Eva's trial and conviction. "She's not going to get out of prison for a long while," AA tells Adriana. She is devastated and starts to cry.

Back in Los Angeles, Fabiana is grocery shopping with Bertha when she sees the same magazine as Adriana. "No, no es mala. Mi mama no es mala. Marlene es mala."

In prison, Federica asks Eva how she feels. "I don't feel," she replies. I'm dead inside." Federica says she knows that feeling, that's how she felt when her son died. She tells Eva "You're not dead. You're depressed. But in time you'll feel again."
 

EVA LA TRAILERA - MARTES - Parte 3 de 3

Meanwhile, Armando is wondering what happened to the life he and Eva had. He remembers a happy time with Eva and Adriana at their pool. In the recollection, Marlene is seen briefly in the background. In the present, Marlene reproaches him for being sad about Eva. Eva is an assassin, she tells Armando. Things will return to normalcy. Their discussion is interrupted by a phone call to Armando. He doesn't tell Marlene who has called nor where he is going, just that "when I get back, I want the photos back in their place."

Eva apparently isn't completely dead inside. She goes up to someone at the prison who can make phone calls and gives her $100 and two phone numbers to call. [Where did she get $100 in cash?] The two calls turn out to be to Martin and Armando.

Pablo is so determined to finish his thesis that he even ignores Diego. Martin reproaches Pablo and tells him that nothing is more important than attending to his son. Pablo agrees that Martin is right. Martin gets a call from the woman at the prison saying that Eva wants to see him. He agrees to come the next morning. Meanwhile, Pablo apologizes to Diego and the two talk. Diego understands a great deal, and he tells Pablo that Eva is a good woman and that he feels sorry for Fabiola.

Fabiola, meanwhile, is being tormented by Maracula, who comes into the room where Fabiola is drawing, turns on the TV to TOSILA, and enjoys Fabiola's misery over seeing her mother as a prisoner and hearing that she could be in prison for 25 years. Marlene tells her "you will never see your mother again."

Eva's other daughter, Adriana, isn't doing much better than her sister. She tries again to escape from Andy, but her attempt fails. Andy grabs her and she screams for help. Andy hits her, and when she screams again, Andy hits her several more times.

Armando meets with Eva at the prison. She tells him that she called him for their daughters' sake. I want you to be a good father. I am a good father, he protests. They talk about Adriana's having left home. Armando is astonished to learn that she left with Andy. He can't believe it. Eva tells him that yes, Adriana left with the criminal brother of your lover. Armando tells Eva that he loved her a lot, and he keeps loving her. Eva replies that she loved him, but "you broke my heart, you broke my soul, you broke my life. But I am the daughter of Pepe Soler, and I will get up again, and I will be a better mother, a better friend, a better woman, a better lover, and when this happens, at last you'll be in the past." And thus ends the episode.
 

Eva. Excellent and very complete recap, Juanita! Soraya is so smart! And Eva is being so stupid in rejecting Pablos' help! Of course there always have to be new barriers, however artificial, between the protagonists of a tn. Girlfriends before someone even met a person shouldn't count. That scene of Marlene torturing Fabiola was disgusting. Marlene's remark on Eva being an "asesina" was a little puzzling. Both Marlene and Armando know perfectly well that Marlene arranged Sofía's murder, and Armando was complicit. I loved that scene from Eva's memory of her conversation with her father. It was very sweet and very revealing of Eva's character. In real life Eva would go to a different prison after having been in a jail during a trial. I thought some of the comments by the maids were great!
 

Eva. Eva also seems to have ordered to track down Adriana--at least implicitly.
 

FATMAGUL: Turkish Episode 57/US Episode 60, Tuesday, 3/1/16
Part 1: The family sits in the dining room and stares at the heap of shredded fabric that was once Fatmagul’s wedding dress. Kerim is calmer now, but isn’t any less p*ssed off. Fatma is silent. Kerim says he’s fed up with being fed up. He decides to find out exactly how Erdogan got in the house, goes outside, and easily pushes in the outside door to the basement. They all realize he must have been there all along, listening to everything they said as they stood at the grill, and that’s also how he got easy access to go upstairs and into Fatma’s room. They call the police, who come to take prints. But they all acknowledge that any prints have long been smudged or cleaned by them.

Upstairs, Fatma decides to take action in her own way. She removes every piece of clothing from her armoire and puts them in the laundry, she wipes down every single hanger, wipes down the armoire and every piece of furniture and object in her room, and scrubs every corner of the floor on her hands and knees. They all try to discourage her from doing this at that late hour, but Fatma insists she won’t be able to sleep or touch anything until she cleans it all. Kerim is feeling pessimistic: “The stains they’ve left on our lives can’t be cleaned. It’s not worth it.” Fatma can’t believe she’s hearing this from him, of all people. “You’re the one who told me never to give up! Why are you changing your mind now? How can I keep fighting without your support? No one has as big of a burden as I do… There’s hope, Kerim, and I still have it…Please don’t lose hope. We have so much to fight for. We’ll make it together.” Kerim concedes that she’s right.

In Casa Yasaran, while they think Erdogan and Perihan are in their rooms resting and recuperating, Munir, Selim and Resat have a powwow in the sitting room. They don’t realize that Erdogan, fresh from terrorizing Fatma on the phone, has sneaked downstairs and is listening to them. They speak about how Perihan is a ticking time bomb, and that she made them lose their best opportunity. Selim brings up how Resat has been having Mustafa follow Erdogan, and that Mustafa witnessed the incident in the tunnel. This is a shock to both Erdogan and Munir. Munir doesn’t like being left out of the loop, but he agrees with Resat that Erdogan is erratic and that it would serve them best to paint him as the lone guilty one in the rape and subsequent harassment of Fatma. “We have to get rid of him. He’s only brought problems.” Erdogan silently curses them and woozily stumbles back to his room.

The days pass, and we end up in a joint therapy session for Fatma and Kerim to hear what everyone’s been up to. The police questioned Erdogan about the call and the break-in, and he of course denied it. He says he only called Fatma to wish her well about her brother, and that she misinterpreted his meaning. Fatma describes how after Erdo’s call, everything she saw and touched felt dirty. Especially after Kerim said that they had once again touched her with their dirty hands. The family has had security cameras installed all around the house and the restaurant now, the doors’ locks have been strengthened, and everyone has their own sets of keys. Fatma feels like she’s being a burden on the family—making them spend all this money on her security. She’s realized how vulnerable she is, but she’s not going to give in to the fear. That’s what the Yasaran want.

Fatma says she doesn’t feel guilty, just ill at ease about all the changes everyone has had to make. For example, Kerim declined his new job, so that he can be with Fatma at all times. He’s instead been working in the restaurant. (We see scenes of them working together happily, and even Kadir helps out.) Kerim says he doesn’t regret it, since he doesn’t mind at all spending all his time with Fatmagul. They both smile.
 

FATMAGUL, Tuesday, Part 2:
Other things have gone back to normal, like Murat going back to school, and all of his school friends happily greeting him and his papa, Rahmi. They all spent New Year’s exhausted on the couch, after filling the multitude of orders from the restaurant. Fatma has decided to meet with the daughter of the woman who Meryem brought to see her. Her name is Osque, and she has not uttered a word since she was raped. Kerim doesn’t think it’s a good idea. “I’m afraid your wounds will open again.” Fatma responds, “Our (your and my) wounds have never healed, Kerim.” The therapist makes a note to herself that Fatma used OUR.

The therapist asks about the wedding dress. Kerim is clearly sorry about hurting Fatma, but assures the therapist that the plans for the wedding are still on. “Fatma will have a new wedding dress—clean, pure and white.” Fatma smiles. After the session, Fatma and Kerim go out for some boza (http://tinyurl.com/zf3fn3w). Fatma points out that this was the first time they’ve spoken about the dress. “At first, it really hurt me when you gave it to me. Then I got used to seeing it there in the armoire. It was like getting a glimpse of our dream each time I opened the armoire.” Kerim apologizes for ripping it up and hurting her. “Thinking that jerk touched your dress drove me crazy. I lost control again.” Fatma says she isn’t concerned about the dress. She jokes that she’ll put the NEW one in a secure place- a safe! “No, your new dress won’t wait around. We’ll get it when YOU’RE ready.”

While Kerim and Fatma have been out, Omer has been busy and calls Kadir with news. There is surveillance camera footage of Erdogan following Fatmagul on the day of the assault in the tunnel! Kadir, who’s with Meryem in the bank, shares the news. She hugs him in her excitement, and they are both affected by that hug. Kadir and Omer get busy getting a judicial order to look at the footage from all the surrounding cameras. They tell Fatma and Kerim about this latest breakthrough, and the two happily go off to meet with Osque and her family. They meet Osque’s mom once again, her older sister, and the sister’s two little kids- a boy and a girl. Fatma looks at the pictures in the house of the family, including pictures of the older sister’s husband, whom his suegra describes as a saint for supporting them, and pictures of a happy Osque, pre-rape, in her high school cap and gown. The withdrawn, haunted young woman who is brought into the room, no longer resembles that girl so full of happiness and hope. Her eyes dart to Kerim nervously. Sensing his presence is causing Osque distress, Kerim chooses to wait for Fatma in the truck.

Osque remains silent, but she does take Fatma’s hands with a look of desperation, and perhaps hope. Fatma tries to reach her with words. “You know me, and I know you. We understand each other better than anyone.” She tells Osque that she has nothing to be ashamed of. It’s the rapist who should be ashamed. She urges her to speak, so that the rapist can be punished. “If you don’t speak, this monster will do this to someone else.” She shares with Osque that she didn’t start feeling better until she began to fight, and that she believes there is always hope. Osque begins to rock back and forth and make a sound, as if trying to stifle her own scream. Fatma writes her phone number on a piece of paper, and Osque clutches it like a life line. “You can call me whenever you want. It’s normal for you to feel scared and tired. Don’t fear anything. He should be afraid of you. Let him feel the shame, and you raise your head.” Osque becomes more upset, and her sister urges Fatma to leave because she thinks she’s harming her. Kerim meets Fatma by the car and puts his hand on her back. Osque sees from the window and starts beating on the window until Kerim removes his hand. Fatma is saddened and says it’s worse than she thought. “We have to help her!” Kerim suggests they speak to their doctor and ask her to help Osque.
 

FATMAGUL, Tuesday, Part 3:
Meanwhile, Kadir, Omer and Meryem have been examining the videos. Not only do they see clearly that Erdogan was following Fatma for blocks until they entered the tunnel, they also see that Mustafa was following Erdogan, or Fatma, or both! The police will bring both Erdogan and Mustafa in for questioning.

Now that he knows Mustafa has been following him, Erdogan decides to return the favor. He follows Mustafa, his mom, and Hacer to the OBGYN. They find out the baby is 19 weeks along, and a boy. Mustafa is plunged into a memory of him and Fatma as teens, in the hospital where Mukaddes had just given birth and stolen the name he and Fatma always dreamed of naming their first son- Murat. He tells Hacer, “He’ll be named Murat.” His mother knows the significance of this, and gives him side eye. Erdgogan approaches Mustafa outside, and reveals he knows Mustafa has been keeping tabs on him for Resat. He wants Mustafa to work for him instead, and dangles his and Hacer’s passports in front of him as an incentive. Mustafa doesn’t take the bait, and says he’s not falling into another Yasaran trap.

Erdogan returns home, and confronts Resat about trying to stab him in the back and make him the scapegoat. He shows Resat the passports he stole out of his safe, and hands them back to him, saying Mustafa is more loyal than Resat is. He’ll keep the most important thing—Mustafa’s confession on a flash drive.

In another part of the house, Hilmiye is giving Perihan the cold shoulder. Perihan reminds Hilmiye that Fatma is the victim in all of this, not them or their sons. “Yes, they’re our kids, but they’re also criminals… As a woman and as a mother, if you don’t understand this, then I have nothing more to say to you.”

The police come for Erdogan, just as Dr. Nil is wrapping up Perihan’s checkup. He puts on a show of once again being persecuted by Fatma. Resat tries to stifle a smile. Mustafa was already in the middle of packing to go to Ildir to buy the boat, when the police show up. Not knowing if they’re coming for him about the murder, Mustafa flees before they come up to the apartment—escaping through the underground parking lot. Hacer and his mother (who has been kept in the dark about everything) cover for him, telling the police he left town for business that morning.
 

FATMAGUL, Tuesday, Part 4:
Fatma and Kerim have a few heart-to-heart talks. He’s upset to learn how both Erdogan and Mustafa were stalking her. Fatma tries to get him to open up to her about his feelings and tells him, “For me, Mustafa isn’t different than the others. I prefer not to waste my time thinking about him, and you shouldn’t either.” She finds Kerim crying in the kitchen in the middle of the night. “I can’t protect you. And I didn’t protect you before. Osque knows our story. Did you see how she reacted to me? As if I were the person who has most harmed you. I recognize that look.” (He flashes back to the angry, wounded Fatma of early days.)
F: You’re no longer that man for me. There are two Kerims, and the other died.
K: I’m still that man. But now I love you. I love you so much.
F: I know. I know. Truly. (She takes his hand in hers.)

The next morning, Kadir gets home after spending the whole night with the D.A. and police. He tells Meryem that Erdogan said it was just a “coincidence” that he happened to be walking the same way as Fatma. And since there are no cameras in the tunnel, there is no proof things didn’t happen as he says. However, the good news is that this will be added to the file of the Ildir/Izmir rape case, as evidence of the continued harassment by the Yasaran. Kadir already spoke to the Izmir D.A. Meryem says prayer of thanks to Kerim’s old Master for helping her meet Kadir. Kadir says that HE’S the one who should be grateful. “Thanks to him I have a family—two children (Kerim and Fatma), and you.”

At the restaurant, Fatma tells Meryem how she and Kerim stayed up all night talking and crying. They’re exhausted, but it was good for them. Meryem speaks about Kadir and what a good man he is. Fatma wonders if Meryem spoke to him about what Humeyra said, but Meryem is too embarrassed to bring it up to him.

At the wholesale market, Kerim and Kadir are buying supplies for the restaurant. Kadir shyly beats around the bush. He reminds Kerim about what a disaster his life was when they first met him, and how much happiness they have brought to him. Then he finally mentions Meryem. He admits that he’s in love with her. He already spoke to his ex mother and father-in-law, to get their approval. Now he wants to speak to Kerim and get his permission to court his adopted mother. “If she returns my feelings, then eventually I’d like to ask for her hand in marriage.” Kerim couldn’t be happier with this news. He grabs Kadir up into an enthusiastic hug.

Mukaddes drops by the restaurant and listens as Fatma tells Meryem about Osque and how she hasn’t been able to get through to her. For once, Mukaddes’ dirty mind serves a purpose. She thinks of the unthinkable, and hits on the truth. “It might be someone close, that she sees every day. You say the brother-in-law lives there?” The horrible possibility begins to dawn on Fatma. She calls Osque’s mom and urges her to put the phone to Osque’s ear, despite the fact that she is in the middle of a crisis. Fatma speaks to Osque, as she rocks back and forth on her bed.
“Listen to me. I think I know what happened. My enemies are close, but your enemy is in your house, right Osque? You have to see him every day.”
Osque looks fearfully over to her brother-in-law, who is observing all of this from the doorway of her room. She finally speaks, shocking her mother and sister. She whispers to Fatma, “Help me. Please, help me.”
“I will, sweetie. I will.”

-End of episode.
 

Eva
Thanks very much, SpanProf, for your kind comments about the recap and your perceptive remarks about what's happening. I too wondered why Marlene would say to Armando that Eva is an assassin. Does she think she can brainwash him simply by saying some things often enough?
 

Eva

excellent recap Juanita!

hmm, I guess Betty being pregnant with Pablo's child would be proof enough for a mistrial, and her debarment.

and it looks like Marlene, being two steps ahead of everyone else, is looking for a way to contain Pablo.

I too was curious that Marlene keeps reminding Armando that Eva is a murderer.

Marlene es mala, Malene es mala.


btw, the captioning disappeared again so I may not be doing a recap tonight.

 

EVA

Thanks Juanita. That was stellar! A satisfying and meaty recap. I gotta say, I do love the characters, but the plot is the worst amalgam of every cliche I've ever suffered through in a telenovela, held together with falsehoods, illogic & sloppy writing.

So Marlacula continues to gain the upper hand, with Betty, with Fabi, Yikes!

And I hate hate hate that Robert forced Bobby's wavering hand into signing that crooked document. It was sort of entrapment, but Bobby should have known better. I felt sorry for him in that scene. "Don't do it Bobby!" but alas. I can see a period of estrangement between him & los Mogollones. He may turn away if he feels ashamed, or if they spring the truth on him while he's vulnerable.

And Asqueroso Andy is over the top. I can't stand to see that kind of abuse, which brings me to: Medusa gloating over Fabiola's pathetic defiance. Please stop her!!

So, let's get technical for a moment: Betty was doing infertility treatments (all by herself?) That's usually something that requires quite a bit of mutual cooperation to pull off. So when was the last time she and Pablo were "together"? How far along is this bun in the oven? How does this fit into the timing of his meeting Eva? Most likely he'll be told about it just when he and Eva are barely starting to rekindle that fading spark, as we can expect they will. Again, Aaaaarrgh! Just speculation' folks. This is the tritest novela in a while and my beanie-fied brain won't stop mulling over up past plots.

But aren't Soraya & Pancho the coolest couple? For all its faults, I can't disagree with the casting.
 

Eva
Many thanks, deb, for your kind remarks about the recap. I'm not sure that Betty's being pregnant with Pablo's child would be proof enough for a mistrial and her disbarment. Didn't Pablo argue the same thing before the judge? Betty claimed then that she had no idea that Eva was in a relationship with Pablo, and the judge felt that her argument was convincing. He did warn her that if evidence came to light proving that she did know, he'd see that she was disbarred.

You're right--Marlene continues to be two steps ahead of everyone else. Sigh.

I'm a little surprised and very disappointed that no one found it odd that Fabiola was insisting early on (after she saw Armando and Marlene through the window) that Marlene es mala. No one wondered why she thought so or how she knew. Of course, it was obvious to everyone else that Marlene es mala, but wouldn't it seem that someone like Fabiola, with somewhat limited capacity for processing what she sees, would have to have seen something dramatic to come to this conclusion? But no one tried to ask her about it.
 

Eva
Muchísimas gracias, LXV, for your generous praise for the recap.

Did Bobby sign the document? He was looking very torn when that segment ended. I was/am hoping that he didn't, though I think if I had to bet one way or the other, I'd say yes, he probably did. And his doing so might put him at odds with Pancho and perhaps lead to the temporary rupture with the Mogollons that you've wisely predicted. It's clear that you're well versed in all the ways in which telenovelas can toy with our feelings.

I too am really enjoying Soraya and Pancho. Soraya almost persuades me to cut the writers some slack with the more trite and distorted aspects of this novela. Almost.
 

Fatma: Thank you Vivi. Özge is Fatma a year ago. Kerim was hurt about how Özge reacted to him touching Fatma. I had my first suspicion about the brother in law being the rapist when they were sitting at he table the first time, and talking about Özge getting treatment but I didn`t want to jump to conclusions.When they were sitting at the table the second time with Özge and Özge was soo tense than I knew. Mukka did good and like you said her dirty mind was useful for once. Mustafa wanting to name his son Murat is so insensitive and hurtful. And Mukka did the same thing to Fatma, smh. Poor Asu Mustafa is not that into her and never will be.
Romy
 

FATMAGUL:

Romy- You know what freaked me out about the brother-in-law? While at the table, he only paid attention to his little daughter, not his son. Notice how he only makes all his little affectionate comments to her? *shiver" They need to get Osge (thanks for the spelling) and those kids away from him.

What more can be said about Mustafa? Naming his son with Asu/Hacer the same thing he and Fatma had decided to name their kid (after Mukaddes already stole it). Pathetic. And so is Hacer, for staying with him!

Brenda- Thanks for your nice comment above. I was so glad that the dress debacle (from purchase to destruction) was spoken about during the session, and then afterwards by Fatma and Kerim in a relaxed setting. They both learned a lesson from it and both have renewed hopes about an eventual wedding. Frankly, that dress was tainted for me after Fatma had that nightmare where she was wearing it.
 

EVA

Juanita I could have sworn I saw Bobby sign it, reluctantly to be sure, but he leaned over the paper with a pen in his hand and I think he did it. I was screaming at the TV set at that point. But I might have seen it wrong. And I'm with you about pobre de Fabi. Her mental processing may be a lot shrewder than those surrounding her, but she doesn't have the means to make herself understood. I'm guessing her pleas would get lost in the shuffle around that house these days. Tia Berta is beside herself and the two servants don't have a lot of direct interaction with her.

CENTAURO As I am not watching this, I know absolutely nothing but I am absolutely sure I saw the word "ultimas" or something like it last night during an ad break. Is anybody in the audience watching this? Do you know what the schedule is? My local channel listings are impenetrable.
 

FATMAGUL:

I think the two Kerims thing is going to be a big problem. As Kerim said this episode, he's the same man. There is only one Kerim-- he is both the man who over a year ago was weak enough to allow his "friends" to commit an atrocity, and the man who is respectful, kind, caring, and in love with Fatma. He has matured and grown, this is true, but each of us is a combination of who we once were and who we are. We are all a mixture of good and bad, and things in-between. If Fatma is ever going to accept and embrace Kerim as her true husband, she can't go on believing the "other Kerim" is dead. She has to learn to forgive that Kerim-- the Kerim he used to be, and the Kerim that will always be a part of him.
 

Juanita, your recap was amazing! Loved all your clever asides.

I actually thought this episode was a bit more hopeful than the Monday one I recapped. Yes, Eva was declared guilty, but we saw her working to help her children. It simply is SO implausible that Armando would have no idea his child was off with Andy. Testosterone poisoning, maybe?

Seems our minds all work the same way. Marlene tells Armando Eva is a killer and he doesn’t correct her? I hadn’t heard that sex with a female vampire killed brain cells, but maybe it does.

Betty went up the tiniest bit in my estimation when she didn’t tell Marlene what happened in chambers. I guess she has some ethics. My admittedly limited legal knowledge seems to dredge up something about what happens in chambers being secret.

The scene with Marlene tormenting a child with a disability was very, very disturbing. If for nothing else I expect extreme punishment for her, but probably not soon enough to suit me. I’d rather see her in a jail cell, maybe scarred or deformed like Lucero’s villain character in Mañana es Para Siempre, than killed off.

It’s really funny how memory works. I thought Bobby did not sign the document Robert gave him, but LXV is probably right. Robert was calling him stupid about the numbers, but they probably didn’t make sense because he’s embezzling Pancho’s money instead of making a real investment in something.

Adriana needs to pull up her socks and get the heck out of that motel room. I’m sorry for what she’s enduring, but her behavior makes no sense. I suppose it’s attributable to being drugged. When she was out in the open after calling Bobby, why didn’t she run from AA? All she would have had to do was approach the reception desk and say she was being held against her will. Presto, changeo, AA in handcuffs.

SpanProf, I also enjoyed the scene with Pepe Soler. The actor seemed perfect as the kindhearted, simple man who was Eva’s father.

I thought the scene with Armando and Eva in the visitor’s room was well acted by both. Eva was centered and dignified, refraining for screaming at him for what he’d done to her. Armando was looking at the woman he still, in some part of himself, loves. She appealed to the better side of him, and I hope it works.
 

Eva. Novelera: Sex with a female vampire! Love it!
 

Centauro

I am way behind on this one, but it's better than the run of the mill narconovela. I suspect they're showing the últimos capitulos thing because they've been running promos for another El Señor de los Cielos. Sheesh! I'm wondering if they'll do El Señor de los Depends at some point.
 

Eva
Wow, novelera, what can I say? I'm thrilled that you've liked the recap.

You're right about the episode being more hopeful than the one you had to do. In fact, I was a bit surprised (and very heartened) that although Eva told Federica that she felt nothing and was dead inside, she was already beginning to act like Pepe Soler's daughter, arranging for those phone calls and speaking optimistically about the future in her very moving meeting with Armando. I love it that she's not totally beaten down.

I am assuming that Robert knows full well that the numbers don't make sense, but he thinks he can just intimidate Bobby into signing by making him feel that his inadequate experience and math skills are to blame.

I burst out laughing at your "I hadn’t heard that sex with a female vampire killed brain cells, but maybe it does."


 

EVA

OK, now, I'm convinced I saw the Bobby signing thing wrong. I sure hope so. His relationship with los Mogollon is so endearing and I was heartbroken to think it would be nipped in the bud by this. Hope springs eternal.
 

Centauro (not really)

Novelera, my husband in another room wanted to know what I was laughing at so loudly. It was your marvelous "Sheesh! I'm wondering if they'll do El Señor de los Depends at some point." Perfect!
 

Centauro

will be replaced by "El Señor de los Cielos 4" on 28 march 2016.

 

CENTAURO

deb You ROCK! Thanks for the update!



 

Centauro
I'm watching it and I love it. I think it's ending soon but hopefully they bring it back.
 

Eva

still no captions, sorry guys,
maybe someone else would like to give recapping a try?

 

TELEMUNDO...

they have been showing promos for "La esclava blanca", pronto, this looks good, a period piece, and wiki is saying this premiered on Caracol, 26 january 16, and is only supposed to be 60 episodes, I'm curious where this will fit in, is Fatma coming to a close?

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_esclava_blanca

 

TELEMUNDO:

Deb- Yes. Fatma ends the last week of March. Saw those ads for Esclava. They reminded me of the Brazilian tn that was shown a few years ago, La Esclava Isaura. Similar period and similar theme.
 

Eva. Not up for a recap, but after Marlene's nasty (and foolish) visit to Eva in prison, along with Eva's new confinement in solitary and her swearing venngeance, I can only say: Oh no! Tell me that the rest of this telenovela isn't about how Eva gets out of jail and exacts a bloody revenge! Is Telemundo mixing Eva up with their narconovelas? Also, I hope Pancho is sending someone along after Bobby (who has gone to Las Vegas to rescue Adriana) to protect him. And in this episode we learned that not only is Pancho a wonderful husband and father, he's a great boss too. His praise is building Bobby's confidence--very necessary after Robert's constant criticism. And--we actually get to see how sausages are made! And Soraya didn't just slap Marlene, she punched her out. Violent, and I should be so opposed, but I must admit it was satisfying. My feelings are a bit more mixed about Armando's hitting Marlene--though his telling her to get out was also satisfying.
 

Vivi: Isn't that Sofia Lama from "Pecados Ajenos" ?


 

Eva
Many thanks, SpanProf, for hitting the highlights (or are they lowlights?) of last night's episode.

Apparently, you're a much nicer person than I am. After all the grief Marlene has caused, I'd love to see Eva get out of jail and exact a bloody revenge. I'm glad you admit to finding Soraya's punching Marlene satisfying. I confess that I was equally pleased by Armando's hitting Marlene. I think his violence stemmed from his love for his daughters and his feeling that Marlene had endangered Adriana and betrayed him. And he's right: Marlene did do so, and she deserves a lot more punishment than being hit.

I thought the sausage-making scene last night was pretty neat.
 

Telemundo General

Vivi, I also saw La Esclava Isaura dubbed into Spanish a few years ago. I thought it was terrific. The new one La Esclava Blanca looks good. I love period novelas and Telemundo doesn't seem to do them. So I guess it will be in the daytime and need to be DVR'd. At first I thought it was a re-make of the Brazilian one, but the plot seems different. Isaura was meant to be mixed race, and the promos for the new one have the protagonist white but, I think, raised with a black family.
 

Eva

SpanProf is also nicer than I am, Juanita. I love every bit of suffering Marlene gets. That scene in the prison visiting room was a tour de force of two terrific actors. Marlene's facial expressions were amazing. She ran the gamut from evil gloating to outright fear. I loved when Eva laughed in her face and called her on her envy. And, of course, people in telenovelas ALWAYS believe it when someone le maldice.

I concur with you all about loving Pancho and Soraya. Sometimes the humble good people are sort of saccharine and over the top. These two are fabulous. Good for Bobby. He didn't hit up Pancho for the money, instead planning to hock or sell his expensive watch.

I really, really hope Andy doesn't get Adriana back. I can't stand the plot point of someone making someone an addict. When I saw that syringe I was very upset.

This has been a novela of slaps. Marlene got slaps and punches, not to mention a partial choking by Eva. She was terrified.
 

Eva. I suspect that like a lot of bullies, Marlene is basically a coward!
 

FATMAGUL: Turkish Episode 58/US Episode 61, Wednesday, 3/2/16
Part 1: Osge ends her call with Fatmagul with a cry for help, which she then directs at her mother and sister, as she stares on her brother-in-law (BIL). He approaches her, and she starts screaming at him not to touch her, throwing anything and everything she can find at him. Her mother and sister are a bit slow on the uptake, but they finally figure it out as Osge runs into the living room, trying to get away from BIL, and continuing to throw things at him. “Don’t touch me ever again!” BIL immediately accuses Osge of lying. But Osge’s mom attacks him and tells him to get away from both of her daughters. He tries to throw the two of them out of HIS home, but Osge’s mom throws HIM out instead. He takes his two little kids with him and drives off, disregarding his wife’s pleas to let the children go.

Osge’s sister, Nalan, refuses to believe what in her heart she knows is true. All three women are bawling as Osge describes what happened that day two years ago. She came home from school, and BIL had come home early…He threatened to kill her if she told anybody. Osge’s mom (OM—sorry, I didn’t pay attention to her name) picks up the phone to call the police, but Nalan begs her not to. “He’s the father of my children!” Fatma, Kadir, and Kerim arrive. Fatma’s already called her therapist, who’s ready to meet with Osge immediately at the hospital. Fatma embraces Osge. They ask if she wants to go to the hospital. “I don’t want a doctor. Take me to the police.” Kadir, Fatma and Kerim take Osge and her mom to the police to make formal rape charges against her BIL. Osge doesn’t let go of Fatma’s hand. Nalan calls her husband, who’s in the park with the kids. He threatens to never let her see the kids again if Osge goes to the cops.

By the time Osge has finished filing all the charges, Nalan arrives, followed by her husband who is cuffed and in police custody. He confessed when the police caught and pressed him. Nalan and her mother both embrace Osge and apologize profusely for doubting her and/or not seeing the truth sooner. “I was blind. I couldn’t see it. May God punish me!...We won’t leave you alone, don’t worry… You’re very brave. If you could put up with living with him all this time, then we can make it.” Fatma cries as she watches this tender scene of family support and heartbreak, with a mixture of a deep understanding of their pain, pride at helping them start to heal, and perhaps sadness as she remembers the lack of support she first received.

The next stop for Osge is the hospital, where Fatma’s therapist is waiting for her. They say goodbye in the swiftly falling snow. “Don’t worry. Everything will be alright…You’ll heal. You’ll be happy. I’ll be with you.” Osge kisses Fatma’s hands in gratitude.

Munir and the Yasaran goons kidnap Hacer when she tries to return to the apartment via the underground parking lot. He pressures her to tell him where Mustafa is. She says she doesn’t know, and gives him attitude. Munir tells her, “The Yasaran saved you, but they can also sink you.” Hacer doesn’t give in. “He can’t think of the baby and me. You have him paralyzed. He escaped and left me with his sick mother. I can only think of my baby and me right now.”

Mustafa calls the apartment looking for Hacer and gets his mother. She demands to know why the police came looking for him, what he did to Fatma, and where he is. He lies that he’s at the airport, about to go on a business trip. We see that he’s actually holed up in Fahrettin’s cabin in the woods. He doesn’t turn on the lights or light a fire, since he doesn’t want to draw any attention to the fact that someone is there. We see him shivering and coughing from the cold. He rifles through drawers in the cabin and finds ammunition for a shotgun that’s hanging on the wall.
 

FATMAGUL: Wednesday, Part 2:
The Yasaran finally have an investor that will save their business. It’s actually a group of investors, and they will get the Yasaran shares for a steal, but Resat and Co have no choice at this point. Resat, Selim and Erdogan go into a conference room to meet the executive board of the investors, and find a familiar face among them—Ender (Meltem’s mom). “Hello gentlemen. I told you we’d see each other again soon.” The look on their faces—priceless!

Later, the Yasaran men complain about it at home. Perihan tells them to stop whining. “The money they invest can cover all your debts. What more do you want?” Ender, meanwhile, has dinner with Meltem and Gaye to celebrate her victory. In six months, they will have dismantled Yasaran Holdings, and she plans on taking over the hydroelectric project Resat has been trying to launch for so long. Gaye suggests that they will need to surround themselves with people they can trust inside the company, and they suggest Mustafa. Oy, vey!

It’s dinnertime in Casa Kadir, but he’s downstairs in his room practicing his declaration to Meryem in front of the mirror. He’s terrible at it! Kerim comes in and tries to give Kadir a pep talk to just do it already, but Kadir is embarrassed to speak to her with everyone else around. Fatma passes by and wants to know what’s up. They tell her and she gets excited too. Unfortunately, Mukaddes was eavesdropping, and she runs up the stairs shouting Meryem’s name. Suddenly, poor Kadir is forced to participate in the MOST awkward proposal in history. The whole family stands surrounding him and Meryem. Mukaddes insists that these things should be discussed in family. Even Fatma asks Meryem if she accepts before Kadir even gets the question out. LOL! Finally, Kerim helps Kadir out by telling Meryem that Kadir asked him for her hand in marriage. Kadir pops the question. They all start celebrating and congratulating them before Meryem has even said anything. Finally, Kadir suggests they go out to dinner, ALONE, so that they can speak properly. Meryem keeps her cool and goes to change, but she immediately admits to Fatma that her heart is about to jump out of her chest and she’s so excited and nervous. She changes into a cute white dress, not nearly warm enough for the snowy weather, but love has a way of overcoming the elements. Before they even get into the car, she tells Kadir yes. “I accept. My answer is yes, Kadir. I would love for you to be my husband.” Kadir takes her hands and says, “You’ve given me back life. You complete me. Thank you for accepting.” He gives the family, pressed up against the windows, the thumbs up sign.

Inside, Mukaddes criticizes Fatma and Kerim for putting off their wedding. “Looks like they’ll get married before you. The rate you’re going, it’ll be years.” She then suggests they do a double wedding. Kerim says they’ll have their own wedding, just for themselves, and Fatma smiles broadly.

Fatma is in Kerim’s room on the laptop, sending a message to Deniz. Kerim jokes that she also writes to him ALL the time. Fatma teases him and tells him to admit that he misses his little sister. He admits it. He checks on the restaurant’s online catering/delivery orders and notes they won’t have any free time until February 22nd. Business is going well. Fatma wonders why there are so many orders for February 14th. Kerim smiles and reminds her it’s Valentine’s Day. He suggests they finish up all their orders the day before, so that they can celebrate Valentine’s Day together. Fatma happily agrees.
 

FATMAGUL: Wednesday, Part 3:
Over dinner, Kadir and Meryem finally speak of their feelings for each other and when they first realized. They both say it was during that first trip to Izmir. For Meryem, it was the moment that he felt comfortable enough to cry in front of her. “Tears represent the best kind of sincerity.” Kadir agrees. He admits to suggesting that they move in with him so that he could get to know Meryem more and see her more often. “When I go to sleep, I know the next morning you’ll be there to greet me.” Having her in his life, now makes him believe in destiny, luck, and the stars. They return home holding hands, and Meryem carries a red rose. The family applauds happily and hugs them when they announce that she accepted. They will buy the engagement/wedding bands when they next go to Izmir. Kerim and Meryem share an emotional embrace. He tells her, “Be very happy. You deserve it.”

The next morning, Mustafa’s mom decides to go to the Yasaran house to seek answers about her son. She clutches on to Hilmiye at the door, and begs her to tell her where her son is, then passes out. Hilmiye and Perihan then speak to her in the living room. “Have your sons kidnapped him? Why did your brother come looking for him? I know he must do dirty work for you. Why would my son leave his sick mother and his pregnant wife?” Hilmiye and Perihan have no answers for her, but they certainly suspect that their men might have done something to Mustafa.

The Yasaran men go to sign the contract, and this time Meltem is also there. Selim can’t take his eyes off her, and remarks to Erdogan that she’s more beautiful than ever. Meltem is disgusted, and wonders if she’ll really have to see them every day if she works with her mother.

At the restaurant, Meryem is floating on air, despite staying up all night speaking to Kerim. Fatma asks her about the old fiancé Kerim mentioned to her. “He proposed to me, but he and his mother wanted me to leave Kerim. Who did they think I am?” Kerim calls Meryem from the road to Izmir (he’s taking the surveillance videos to the D.A.), and the two get a bit mushy and blush. Fatma can’t contain her laughter.

The happy moment is quickly shattered by the sound of shattering glass and yelling. It’s Osge’s BIL! He’s outside, destroying the patio furniture and throwing rocks through the window. “Come out! You’re destroying my family. I’m going to destroy you, Fatmagul!” Some of the men from the neighboring businesses grab him and throw him off the property. Meryem goes outside and curses him out. “You’re a dirty disgusting animal!” They call the cops, and call Osge’s mom. They’re all in a cab, with the kids, fleeing to they don’t know where. He already attacked them and beat Nalan. His lawyers convinced the judge that he confessed under duress from the police, and he was released. Fatma tells them to come stay with them in their house, then heads straight there. Kerim comes back with Mehmet from delivery meals to a school, and can’t believe he wasn’t there to protect them. With their security camera footage, Meryem says they’ve got that jerk, and it was better that Kerim wasn’t there. He calls Fatma to make sure she’s ok.
 

FATMAGUL: Wednesday, Part 4:
Fatma has to battle Mukaddes at home, who apparently thinks SHE owns the house. She doesn’t want Osge’s family coming and putting her and her kids in danger. Fatma calls her on being unfeeling and selfish. When Osge and her family arrive, Mukaddes doesn’t hide her displeasure. Osge eyes Kerim (who’s trying to make himself scarce) and asks Fatma, “Why do you stay with that man? Isn’t he one of them?” Fatma says he isn’t and tells Osge they’ll speak about that later. While the therapist makes a house call to see Osge, Fatma joins Kerim in the detached in-law house (where Mukaddes and Rahmi are supposed to be living!) to prepare it for Osge and her family. Mukaddes joins them to continue complaining that they aren’t a shelter. Then she has the nerve to demand that Kerim give her and Rahmi the keys to the house in the woods, so that they can stay there. Fatma and Kerim get the same idea at the same time. The cabin in the woods is the perfect place to keep Osge and her family safe from her BIL.

They ask the therapist if this is a good idea and she agrees. Plus, Kerim feels that the less Osge sees of him, the better for her. “She can’t accept me being near Fatmagul.” Kadir returns from Izmir, and he’s totally supportive of Fatma’s invitation to Osge’s family. He reports that the D.A. didn’t believe it was just coincidence that Erdogan was following her that day. Kerim decides to leave right then, in the middle of the night, to go to the cabin to prepare it for Osge’s family. Fatma says farewell to him at the door.
F: Kerim, thank you. You’re always with me when I need you. Your support is so valuable to me.
K: And your words are so valuable to me.
F: I love you.
K: I know.
F: Call me when you arrive, so I won’t be worried.

In the cabin, Mustafa is wrapped up in bed, crying and having a pity party for one as he remembers the dreams he and Fatma once had about their married life. (Hearing how he didn’t want her to work, I again think Fatma dodged a bullet when he abandoned her.) He hears Kerim drive up, grabs the shotgun and ammunition, and runs to hide outside. Kerim goes into the house and tries the lights, which don’t come on. He goes back to the truck for a flashlight and toolbox, and goes right to the fuse box outside the cabin to see what’s wrong. Mustafa watches and listens from around the corner. Fatma calls Kerim, and he tells her a tree fell and knocked out the electricity. She thinks he should come back, but he’s determined to fix it. He reminds her of their little fantasy about living in the cabin, and running their two businesses from there. Mustafa seethes and remembers their once future dreams. Fatma tells him Osge fell asleep in her room, so he suggests Fatma sleep in his room tonight. Mustafa seethes some more, and remembers him and Fatma planning to sleep under the stars on hot nights in their new house. Kerim signs off by telling Fatma that he loves her. He barely has time to look up when he hears the shotgun being cocked, and then unloaded into his gut! He starts to bleed out and falls to the ground, but he does not see who shot him.

-End of episode.
 

Fatma: Thanks so much Vivi. Oy, Kerim is shot by Mustafa. He completely forgot that he gave up on Fatma and has no one to blame but himself. What a coward! Can you imagine the family's reaction at this new development? It's always something. I love the proposal, too funny. Mukka's reaction was amusing for one second before she HAD to be the one speaking first. Now, with the shooting it will be Fatma's turn to worry, take care of Kerim, if he survives of course.
Romy
 

FATMAGUL:

Romy- I am so incredibly mad at Mustafa right now. The cowardice! The nerve, to be upset about losing something/someone he willfully threw away! Ugh!
 

FATMAGUL

Excellent recaps, as usual Vivi. Loved the info on the Turkish drinks in Tuesday's ep. Seems like a way for the writers to let the Turkish audience know that it's winter in the story. I love how the writers in this novela have kept the timeline of this novela consistent: they change the seasons, give dates for birthdays/anniversaries and the scenary matches the times given and noted.

I'm gonna do the Friday recap, but due to work obligations, I won't have it up until Saturday night/Sunday morning. Please be patient with me.


TELEMUNDO GENERAL

Deb, thanks for the info on La Esclava Blanca. I haven't seen any promos but I usually don't because I rarely watch TV, much less live/airing. I love novelas de epoca and the Colombian one I've seen, La Pola, was good except for the ending which had me scratching my head. I hope Telemundo puts it up On Demand and their novela app and for longer than they have done with Fatmagul.
 

Fatmagul

My Fatmagul peeps, you are the best. Vivi I didn' get to see Thursday 's epi and missed some of Wed, Tks for being my eyes, great job, as usual. Ouch, Mestaf shooting Kerim over Fatma. With this guy, how low can u go. I always felt his feelings for Fatma were more lust than love. There were few real tender moments, he was more groping.The look on Ender's face when she stared down the Y group was priceless. Maybe Fatma will take on the plight of raped women. The next couple of weeks should be awesome viewing.
 

FATMAGUL:

Thanks J and Brenda!

J- We'll be grateful for a Friday recap whenever we get it. Looking forward to it as a weekend read. I agree about the way they have kept the timelines and seasons real. I love seeing how everything changes. I didn't know Valentine's Day was such a big deal in Turkey, but I guess it's everywhere now. Thanks, Hallmark!

Brenda- Remeber when Fatma took her first set of exams, they spoke of her becoming a lawyer someday (which made Kadir happy)? I can totally see her becoming an attorney for women and children who have been abused. I think helping Osge, although painful (and dangerous), was good for her.

Typo: The recap should have said Kadir, not Kerim, called Meryem from Izmir.

See you guys on the new post for the week. Thursday recap will be up there later.
 

Fatma

Wow...unplug from this show for a few days and you miss a lot! Was on the road so haven't seen much of what was written but I feel well informed from the various recaps this week.

So...yet another challenge for our young couple. MEstafa finally made good on his threats and shot Kerim...this is horrible...what a coward. But you're right Romy....now Fatma will have to take care of him...another thing for them to grow threw.

Muka...I hate her. She is so selfish. First, she is staying with Kadir out of charity and she has the nerve to tell F&K that Osge and her family can't stay there! She has absolutely no say...but what a horribly selfish uncaring person she is. I can't wait for her fall. Secondly, she's been chomping at the bit to get to that country house so I was not surprised when she used the current crisis to ask for the keys...but I was so irritated at her gall. I'm just glad F&K came decided it was Osge and her family who should go to the country house insetead.

Perlihan (sp) has my upmost respect. I am so glad she has a conscious and a sense of right and wrong cause no one else in her family does. She has her men in check for the moment and her sister on notice. I'm so glad at least someone in that family tries to do the right thing and recognize that their sons (and fathers too) are criminals....and more importantly she is not standing by their continued corrupt and immoral actions.

So...couple of clarifying questions. I watched the episode with F&K playing house in the country rather speedily. Can some one confirm for me...when Kerim asked Fatam if she was ashamed of him...was it a general question or was it related to his unemployment or their past and how they met? I need to see that part again. When Kerim and Muka faught about giving up Fatma's case to save Rhami...did I hear her right...did she check Kerim by saying Now he wants to protect Fatma? The nerve of her...she's never done anything to truly help Fatma...but I can see how that statement to Kerim can leave a lingering stinging feeling.

Watched some of Friday's epi and hope to see the rest OnDemand this weekend. I see that dad came from Australia to check on his son. Dad's hair is snow white now so how much time has passed between now and when Kerim saw him off at the airport? I know you guys referenced keeping up with the seasons but I didn't think that much time had passed.


Nett