Caray, Caray!

Thank you, dy77.

I have never been so happy to see a teenage twit rant against someone. How did you like that Juan? Smells like teen spirit.

I was surprised when SOnia presented Dave's shirt to Leon. Won't Dave notice his signature fragrance and his shirt?

And again ,Markme..Again with the SooSee. He called her that four times....I counted. I would be telling that weasel that only my close friends and family are allowed to call me SooSee. We all know that this dude is lying through his teeth and that Soosan is in for more abuse when she returns to that house.

Well, Luci accepted, but I have a funny feeling that this wedding will never happen , and poor Miguel is in for a broken heart .
 

Thanks, dy. Fab title and recap. ITA on your VIPs. Love the screenshots, especially of Miguel and of the two stooges.

Fer was on fire. You go, girl. Sock it to Juan and Lillian.

Miguel's proposal was so sincere, but the best part was seeing Carito and Perla deflate.
 

Thanks, dy77. "What a fantastic idea to bring a 17 year old attractive girl to jail, Marta." Gaaaah! And once again, the screencaps really do say it all, especially Luci's face as she accepts Miguel's offer of marriage. Is there a polite way to tell someone "I know I said I wuv you, but I don't actually LOVE you"?

Juan uses "I'm supposed to manage the money" for an excuse every time he does something wrong. After all the years he's worked for David, he should have a much clearer understanding of David's financial priorities. (Like, don't use scrimping as an excuse to break the law, poison the employees, disobey David's orders, etc.) Remind me again why this guy wasn't fired? (No, please don't.)
 

Also: Soosie saying yes to ewMark... ew. I don't like where that story is going.

And Sonia/Leon/shirt? Ew again.

Between those things and Luci agreeing to marry Miguel, I see nothing but horror on the horizon. (But I do hope the wedding, if it happens, ruins the mean girls' day.)
 

So..What is Sonia's plan? Is she going to try to turn Leon into DAve 2.0 by assembling an entire Dave wardrobe for him by gradually pilfering a belt here, a pair of slacks there? Please, SOnia, do not steal DAve's underoos. At least allow Leon to wear his own under garments. Sonia is craycray, for sure.
 

Love it dy. thanks

"I celebrated but they didn't"

I just love Perla and Carito, packing for Luciana and then their expressions when Miguel asked and Luciana accepted the proposal.

That ass chewing Fernanda gave Juan, worth watching again. Props also to Ramon for calling David. In contrast every remedy for every challenge in Marta's world is to call Brian.

Marrying Luciana is even better than leaving the country. If she went to Mexico David would go after her. I hope they ask David to give her away. Goody, goody.

Luciana kept upping the ante with Miguel so she shouldn't be surprised this stunt finally kills David's love for her.

4 days have been spent on Tano and it's not nearly over.

 

Just wait till Sonia pulls out a paper bag with a likeness of David pasted on and suggest Leon wear it.
 

Going off her first date with Leon Sonia obviously wants Leon to be her substitute David, but giving Leon David's actual shirt moves her that much further into Overly Attached Girlfriend/Lifetime Movie Stalker Girl territory. Which brings up an interesting question: does Sonia's obsession continue unchecked until she has a public bitch-crazy moment and gets busted, or does she get "cured" at some point? (Since Leon has, IIRC, only ever interacted with David once or twice so far in the show I don't think he'll immediately twig to the scent thing.)
 

Last night's episode kind of cemented it for me, though (and seeing it in print via this lovely recap, thanks, dy, helps): apart from things like Kimberly Dos Ramos's painted-on pants and her admittedly excellent reaction faces, I'm indeed more invested in this show's B- and C-stories than the A-story. It's a combination of factors, if perhaps mostly that the best actors are marooned in the side stories--most notably Mar Contreras at this point, IMO--and the A-story keeps reverting to David going full LQNPA Rogelio on someone or something. Hopefully Miguel and Luciana's emergency engagement will move things along.
 

Good stuff, dy77.

Sonia is loony tunes. She needs a shrink and a new job. How can she not realize that David will notice that the shirt is missing (unless she purchased a duplicate and put the original back)?

There is no way she can turn Leon into David. He's not an alpha male.... but Miguel is.

If Miguel marries Luciana and the marriage is real (meaning they share a bed for more than sleeping) it's legal if it lasts two or three years.

Susan just lost me. Going back to Mark is suicidal.

Gracie has an ulterior motive for releasing Tano beyond the previous statement: If Fernanda goes after him David will send her away to school. Many US college students start before their 18th birthdays.
 

Dy77: This episode made me fast forward all of the way because of the non-stop INCOMPETENCE of the Protagonists.

UA: Susan just all but signed her DEATH WARRANT: You've heard it here first!

On Tano getting released: FerBrat can feast on Tano now that Susan is going to back to OJ Simpson 2.0




 

Niecie: I'm going to be looking forward to seeing Karma clearing her throat & striking both Perla & Carito.

Plus, we got to see El Coyote last night!
 

I'm getting a little tired of the bloodlust in these discussions.

BTW, I don't recall ever hearing El Coyote's name. I think Juan referred to him as "El Coyote" in his conversations with Mark. If this is a real thing, I suspect that coyotes dictate this to make themselves harder to track down.
 

dy, superb title. This was excellent.

You had me right out of the gate with “purloined” – a fantastic, underused word!

Like tofie, I loved "Luciana informed Marta and Leon that she was returning to Mexico. I celebrated but they didn't" as well as many other lines.

I had to laugh when Sonia took out David's shirt from the shopping bag. Now, as Leon and David have the same physique, the shirt will fit perfectly, correct? ;)

Mark's nagging, unrelenting harassment of Soosie was just too much. I bet she won't be able to stay in her house with him for more than a day. And yes, Susanlynn and UA, I am afraid once she moves back in, he will try and kill her if she leaves.

When Luci's visa issues arose, I did think right away that Miguel was going to ask her to marry him so I wasn't surprised (for once). And yes, dy, where IS Erika?? We've only had two brief sightings to date. She and Luci are sure to clash, but I think Erika can hold her own. I also hope Luci cancels the wedding and tells Miguel the truth. Then, he can start to soothe his hurting heart with the smart and fiery Erika.

I fell asleep at the end so missed the big announcement. I can only guess how Carito will take the news.

Thank you again dy - this was great.

Diana
 

dy77 Thank you for this absolutely detailed, entertaining and informative recap. So informative that I don't actually have to watch. Nah, I'm not going to gripe but somehow I find myself unable to watch. I think it has something to do with a (to me) yucky scene I saw in the previews.

Anywho, I guess this is action, which is what we all wanted. Your screen caps really flesh out the story. So, this is the face that Luciana wore as she accepted Miguel's proposal of marriage. Poor sap, I'm sure this lackluster response isn't going to slow down his love train one bit. Jeesh.

And Soosan. What a big dummy, indeed. I don't know if it was intentional, but they sure have busted her down from a confident, competent professional to a sniveling, trembling dolt ready to put her head back on the chopping block for a dude she had no business fooling around with in the first place. Didn't she know efforts were being made to get Tano out of jail? I don't see her surviving this thing. Mucky Mark is just going to get her back in his clutches so he can punish her for having had the nerve to leave him. And it will probably be capital punishment.

Ah well, let me check out comments. Thank you Urban, for yesterday's stellar recap! The discussion was fun, too.

Later!
 

Thank you everyone!

That's evil guy's name - El Coyote! Thank you Steve.

Whichever character finally gets the Tano in jail storyline to end will have my undying gratitude and loyalty. I was enjoying Fer last night. Nothing will keep her from Tano! Wimpy Susan has no chance against that enthusiasm IMO. If she survives moving back in with grunge-y Mark.

As for poor Miguel, his heart is in the right place and his motivations were understandable. Luciana sucks for accepting the proposal so we will add that to the many other reasons I am not a fan.

Bill, I am laughing at your Rogelio from LQNPA comparison. Just give Grumpy David a whip and we're almost there. Except Rogelio was more updated on the goings on around him I think? At least the financial ones.

The Sonia stuff just makes me laugh but I do wonder if they are going for comedy or for stalker storyline down the road. I suspect comedy but we'll see!

 

Susanlynn, I am lol'ing so hard at the underoos comment. Please do not let the Sonia storyline go there, VeA! Diana - heh on the shirt fitting Leon as well as David.

Tofie, I am kind of with you, or I guess, Perla and Carito, let Luciana go to Mexico and David go too. Adios!

Lila you make a good point, Susan started out as an intelligent, professional, grown woman. Sigh!
 

Great thing about Perla and Carito is their different personalities shine through in mean girl sync. It's easy to imagine their banter as they think of and pack those boxes with Luciana's belongings. You know at first they were jealous haters but now they kinda got cause to put a pebble or two in her shoe. Let me room with em for a week.
 

Thanks DY! I just LOVED your screenshots of the show, so excellent job. I didn’t really get to sit down and watch the show much because I had a party to go to last night and I got back after the Vino had already started. I did see Fer’s rant. She should have said more like, “Juan, you incompetent moron, how could you let a thing like this happen?”

Susan is becoming so pathetic. I am getting tired of her anxious crying and letting that dirtbag Mark walk all over her. Grungey, dirtbag Mark….every time I see him on the show, I feel like I need to take a shower to wash the slime and scum off of me. He’s just gross!

As for Perla and Carito, it was kind of humorous that they decided to help Luciana pack. Those were great screenshots.

 

Thanks Dy77. I, like others, am less than enthusiastic about this novella, but thanks to excellent recapping and comments from viewerville, I am spared the necessity to actually watch the episode. Thanks for your work.
Helen
 

dy--Another totally awesome recap, which "pairs" well with the episode with notes of salt, red pepper, cumin, snark and sparkle. I'll have another.

About Luciana's less than enthusiastic acepto to Miguel. She probably did a little wrestling with herself out there in the vineyard by herself. She was really boxed into a corner--or one of Perla and Carito's boxes. What logical reason can she give to turn him down? She can't say she still has a thing for David and wants him back so she can kiss him again and taste his "wine." They all know she doesn't want to go back to Mexico. Her life is now at David's vineyard.

At this juncture, she can only hope to put off the wedding until David does return--or until he hears about it and sends Miguel a congratulatory telegram. I bet if it happens, Luciana asks for just a civil wedding in California, easier to undo than a Catholic church wedding. BTW, is this another telenovela set in the U.S. devoid of padres?
 

Lila: Susan is an IDIOT for going back to Mark (OJ Simpson 2.0). We both know this is going to get worse as he gets more violent with her.

1.) Graciela is still on a roll & I wouldn't be surprised if she gets preggers with David's baby just to rub it in Luciana's face.

2.) Miguel & Luciana getting married ? LOL! Erika will be there waiting in the wings for Miguel when Luciana (the WORST Protagonista ever) dumps him.

3.) Gutierrez still hasn't met Luciana face-to-face yet ? This is like the 5th close call.

4.) Sonia: Don't get me started on this obsessed with David mess & smelling his clothes. Can't she do something else ?

5.) Cesar: This guy can't get a girl to save his life. Susan going back to Psycho Mark, Graciela didn't have any use for him.

6.) Leon: My advice for this guy is to pack your bags & move to the Philippines or somewhere & get away from the mess.

7.) Perla & Carito: Karma is clearing her throat.
 

Anita: "What logical reason can she give to turn him down?"

I suggest: "You'll always ask yourself if I would have married you if it hadn't been for my visa problem. There will always be that doubt. I can't let that happen. We owe it to ourselves to wait until I get my visa situation sorted out."

Now, I bet it never even occurred to Miguel that Luciana isn't totally in love with him, and he will deny that he could ever doubt it. But then she could say that she wants HER conscience to be clear. Either way, it would be an effective argument for Luciana to use.

At least until the visa problem is solved, and then she'll need to come up with a better reason not to marry him, if Erika hasn't turned his head yet.
 

In fairness, IIRC, Luciana has told Miguel that she does/did have feelings for David (before his big "Go be happy, girl" moment)...but at this point, yeah, I doubt he's thinking she still has any doubts about him. Which we all know is a damn lie the size of one of those wine tanks.

Steve: La Heroina's a mess, sure, but worst protagonist ever? Naaaaah, that goes to Piedad Estevez from Alguien te mira.
 

I get it. Luciana keeps saying yes when Miguel asks if she loves him, they made future business and personal plans, they spend nearly every waking moment together, lots of PDA and in front of David, she chose him over speaking at the wine launch and she nearly begged him for a weekend in San Francisco to give him her virginity. Don't know what's missing cause she proves he's her guy in word and deed everyday.
 

maybe Irina (Luci ) is more suited to playing bad girls. I first saw her in PyP as a spoiled rich girl who went after her sister's guy. Or perhaps the writers have not created a leading lady that I can relate to and support. I am also not into the galan. I like a strong, intelligent, proactive, good humored galan. I am getting verra tired of Dave's frown and do nothing attitude. The fact that three people have consistent!Y managed to pull the wool over that frowning face makes me uninterested in him. Buy a vowel, DAve.

OT..Lila..Have you started reading OUtlander?
 

Tofie--That's what I was trying to say. Thank you. Luci has been giving Miguel the GREEN light ever since she decided David should patch up his relationship with his children, trying to find a way to get David out of her head and fell into a comfortable situation with Miguel. Now she turns on the YELLOW light? He's going to be flummoxed.

BTW--purloined. Lovely word. It harkens me back to the Edgar Allen Poe story, the last in the trio of forerunners of the modern detective story. Thanks, dy, for a trip down memory lane.
 

THEY didn't make plans. Miguel made plans and Luci said "OK." And sure she begged him to San Francisco her, but she took off as soon as she had an excuse. Miguel doesn't see these as mixed messages because he doesn't want to.
 

Susanlynn: You've hit the nail on the head!

Irina Baeva is much suited portraying the antagonist! It's in the genes.


 

Julie--I think Luci was an active participant in formulating plans for her and Miguel to start a vineyard together. He just always seemed way much more enthused about it than she was.
 

Susanlynn, Irina Baeva has a very short resume. She was in 13 episodes of MIVAC trying to steal Gael from Gianna. That was her audition for PyP where she spent most of her 104 episodes boinking David, then rejecting him, then going after him to steal him back from Regina whom he wanted in the first place.

She was the reason I took on this novela, to see how well she does as the Good Girl. For her sake I'm glad she's had the chance to play a good girl before getting permanently typecast as a villana.

It's too bad that the writing in this series is sub-par.
 

OT - Not yet, Susanlynn. I think tonight may be the night. Excitement, romance, lovers who know what they want, believe in and fight for each other. . .that's not here. Maybe I can fine it in Outlander! Plus, it's all of 20 degrees, wind chill of 6, snow, and wind howling at 20-30 mph, sounds like a good night to start!
 

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Lila..OT..girl, you will find all those things and more in OUtlander, a historical Scottish telenovela. After watching season 1, I read all eight novels in the series over my summer vacation. I read everywhere...On the patio, in the car, at the beach, etc. If you like history and drama, try Mercy Street on PBS..A civil War hospital telenovela. P.s. Where are you, LIla? The temps will be dropping here after some sun today and a bit of snow predicted for Thursday night. Winter..Boo.
 

Thanks dy77 for this somewhat funny recap. Tano turns into a box of hair trying to figure out Susie's Behavior, lol, he's going to be a box of here for a while. I get the feeling things are about to get crazy...er.

Lucy know good and well she don't need to be married up with the mig. she love him, but not like that. What would TN/soap be like without all this messed-up Love Stuff?

I hate hearing about what they do to those immigrants and that snake juan won't even let them have food. Him Lillian and Gracie need to burn in hell!!! And that Airhead, should be.... I'll figure out something for her later. I do not like her she is just annoying to me. which is it carita or that wants Miguel? or that other annoying one? I don't like either one of them so it don't matter which is which.

Okay y'all later.