Saturday, December 02, 2017
Caer en Tentacion #31, 12/01/17: Santiago confesses his Love for Raquel; or Carolina’s world continues to Crumble
Part 1
3 years earlier
Nacho continues asking Carolina if she is cheating on Santi with Damian. Carolina immediately pretends she is being offended by such questions and asks Nacho to leave. Nacho tells her that he cares for her and Santi and that is why he is asking. Carol does not want to hear it and kicks him out. She is left worrying about the situation, she feels like all her world is crumbling around her.
At Gabriela’s house her husband arrives and tells Santi he needs to be supervising the work because that is what they pay him for. He trusts Santi but not his workers.
Mia asks Damian why he has abandoned his family, Damian says he has been having a lot of problems but then Damian offers to make Mia tea, like he used to do when she was a little girl. He goes off to make her tea and leaves his phone on the couch, Carol calls his phone and Mia picks up but says nothing Carol says “I just turned in to a professional liar today” Mia then says “Carolina it’s Mia” Carol realizes she has just made a big mistake. (world continues crumbling)
At Laura’s house Juan keeps trying to rape Laura, tells her that he knows she wants him and is just afraid to show it. Laura pushes him away and tells him to leave
At police station Nacho tells Antonio that he knew that Carol was cheating on Santi, but he never told Santi. He asks for an attorney because he did not kill Carol, but since there is a death involved he wants an attorney. Antonio not really listening continues to question him about Carol and Santi and asks him what did you feel when you found out about Carol and Damian. Nacho confesses that he did feel hatred for Carol.
At the foundation Raquel finds out that the money from Damian’s company has been donated to the foundation. Raquel is surprised.
At the Alvarado home, Lola walks into her father’s bedroom and Santi tells her to sit. He tells Lola that he knows she has many questions. He then says that he is not sure what is going on but he loves Raquel and that “I never thought I would heal bur Raquel is doing something that makes me heal."
Jovita at the Becker home tells Raquel that Andres paid for everything and even left money for the house. Raquel gets upset and calls Andres to tell him she does not need his help. He tells her that he loves her and will not allow her to run to the "construction worker" for help, HE will help her.
Godoy at the hotel wants to know who hired Cynthia; she does not want to tell him but tells him that it was Rafa Estrada the police officer. He tells her she has two choices cooperate with the police or go to Jail
Antonio goes to see Santi and tells him that things are getting complicated for him and for Nacho because Nacho confessed that he knew about the affair before Carolina was killed
At the hotel Room Godoy restates that he wants Cynthia to help him trap Rafa. Cynthia doesn’t want to because if Rafa finds out he is bound to kill her.
Santi continues to discuss case with Ant, Antonio tells Santi that all he wants is the truth.
3 years earlier
Damian is in the kitchen and tells Mia that her tea is almost ready. Mia tells him that he left his phone on the sofa and he received a phone call and she answered it. Damian as any guilty person would react, gets upset and tells Mia that he has already told her that she is not supposed to answer his phone “well I answered it because it was Carolina and she said something about a lie, what is she talking about?” Damian comes up with his usual back up lie and tells Mia that it has to do with Lola, and the Job and how Carolina has lied to her husband about Lola, but it is their problem and he has nothing to do with it, Mia tells him that Raquel should be the one talking to Carolina and not him, she says she is too old to be having tea with dad, so she leaves.
Raquel is at a plaza talking to a doctor about Mia’s situation, he tells her that the best thing to do is to be supportive of Mia and to try to get her help. Cutting has become an epidemic among teenagers her age because of how fast videos about cutting have spread. Again he recommends that Mia get support and possibly be seen by Doctor Moreno.
At the Alvarado household Santi is upset at Carolina for not being frank about having had an argument with Damian “why do I have to find out from other people?” Then Santi goes on a tangent and starts telling her that if she was home more often where she “belongs” this would not be happening. Carolina does not understand what he is getting at (and to be honest neither do I), he brings up Lola and her much older boyfriend and how this is somehow linked to Carolina and her new career, and if she was home with her kids and husband, blah, blah, blah. (I tuned out because it was getting ridiculous)
Nico walks in on them while they are arguing and tells them to stop fighting.
Vicente calls Carol to threaten her that if she doesn’t pay or tell Damian to pay he will get in his car and go to the city to talk to Damian. She asks him for one more day, Vicente will give her a day but it’s going to cost her more in interest. For every day that his money is delayed she will pay more.
Damian follows Mia into her bedroom wants to talk to her about the situation with Carol, but Mia refuses she does not want to talk to him and wants him out of the room. They continue to argue and Mia is leaving her room when they run into Raquel who is wondering what is going on. He tells Damian to leave Mia alone, that they need to talk.
At a restaurant Agustin tells Nacho to stop butting into other people’s lives, Nacho says that Carol denied everything because she has something to hide. He knows when a woman is lying. Agustin is panicking and tells nacho to stop interfering.
Santi tells Nico not to butt into an adult conversation, that he will handle things with his mother. Lola walks in and now Santi wants to talk to Lola. He tells her that he does not approve of her chasing around for Juan and he does not approve of her relationship with him. She needs to concentrate on school work and that is it.
Damian is crying his crocodile tears and says “I have failed as a husband and as a father” (yes indeed you have sir) Raquel reassures him that it’s not his fault that Mia needs help but it’s not his fault. “Oh and what were you arguing with Mia about?” Damian loads his lies and shoots them at Raquel who believes him. Raquel says we have to support Mia not judge her. Damian than says “I have to change because our daughter is hurting her body and her soul."
He steps out of the room and texts Carol to call him. She calls him and says “I am going to need you to talk to Vicente” don’t worry I will fix it he replies. “I called you and your daughter answered” “don’t’ worry I will handle that too” Damian then tells her “I think you are right, we are losing control and it probably is best that we stop seeing each other” Carol is shocked to hear Damian say this.
Cynthia gets home and Raquel asks her where she has been, if she has taken drugs? Cynthia denies it but understands that Raquel wants her out of there so she asks for a few days and then she will leave.
Godoy is home when Laura gets there, she again insinuates and instigates to try and get an argument from Godoy. She tells him that she is going to do the same thing that he did to her and at that moment she gets a picture of a very naked Juan, she says “what would you do if I was sleeping with someone else, obviously that turned Godoy on because he grabs Laura picks her up and kisses her and takes her up to the bedroom.
Alina goes to see Nico apologizes to him but tells him he needs to go to her house right now, “it’s now or never Nicolas” Nicolas choses now and goes to tell Lola he is leaving with his boss because she has some work he has to do (yes she does, really) Mia calls but I am too frustrated to repeat what she says, bottom line Nico lies to her and goes with Alina. When he leaves Lola tells him to be careful
Santi goes to see Raquel, who is calming her nerves with a shot of tequila, he asks to join her. They embrace in a very sweet embrace and then they drink a shot of tequila.
Santi says “I miss you I can’t be without you, how do you feel?”
"I feel desire and fear”
“Why fear?”
“I don’t want to make a mistake with you, everything is against us” Santi agrees.
Santi then tells her that Antonio suspects Nacho because he knew about the affair years before the accident and that makes Nacho a suspect but not only that, he becomes a suspect as well.
3 years earlier
Nacho continues asking Carolina if she is cheating on Santi with Damian. Carolina immediately pretends she is being offended by such questions and asks Nacho to leave. Nacho tells her that he cares for her and Santi and that is why he is asking. Carol does not want to hear it and kicks him out. She is left worrying about the situation, she feels like all her world is crumbling around her.
At Gabriela’s house her husband arrives and tells Santi he needs to be supervising the work because that is what they pay him for. He trusts Santi but not his workers.
Mia asks Damian why he has abandoned his family, Damian says he has been having a lot of problems but then Damian offers to make Mia tea, like he used to do when she was a little girl. He goes off to make her tea and leaves his phone on the couch, Carol calls his phone and Mia picks up but says nothing Carol says “I just turned in to a professional liar today” Mia then says “Carolina it’s Mia” Carol realizes she has just made a big mistake. (world continues crumbling)
Present
time:
At
the hotel room Cynthia continues to undress for Godoy, he tells her to stop, he
then says “you have the wrong person little girl” shows her his badge and then
tells her “get dressed and I’ll say you out front” Cynthia is floored with
shock.At Laura’s house Juan keeps trying to rape Laura, tells her that he knows she wants him and is just afraid to show it. Laura pushes him away and tells him to leave
At police station Nacho tells Antonio that he knew that Carol was cheating on Santi, but he never told Santi. He asks for an attorney because he did not kill Carol, but since there is a death involved he wants an attorney. Antonio not really listening continues to question him about Carol and Santi and asks him what did you feel when you found out about Carol and Damian. Nacho confesses that he did feel hatred for Carol.
At the foundation Raquel finds out that the money from Damian’s company has been donated to the foundation. Raquel is surprised.
At the Alvarado home, Lola walks into her father’s bedroom and Santi tells her to sit. He tells Lola that he knows she has many questions. He then says that he is not sure what is going on but he loves Raquel and that “I never thought I would heal bur Raquel is doing something that makes me heal."
Jovita at the Becker home tells Raquel that Andres paid for everything and even left money for the house. Raquel gets upset and calls Andres to tell him she does not need his help. He tells her that he loves her and will not allow her to run to the "construction worker" for help, HE will help her.
Godoy at the hotel wants to know who hired Cynthia; she does not want to tell him but tells him that it was Rafa Estrada the police officer. He tells her she has two choices cooperate with the police or go to Jail
Antonio goes to see Santi and tells him that things are getting complicated for him and for Nacho because Nacho confessed that he knew about the affair before Carolina was killed
At the hotel Room Godoy restates that he wants Cynthia to help him trap Rafa. Cynthia doesn’t want to because if Rafa finds out he is bound to kill her.
Santi continues to discuss case with Ant, Antonio tells Santi that all he wants is the truth.
Part
2
Antonio
and Santi continue discussing and Santi says “this means you don’t trust me”
“no I just don’t understand why you defend Nacho so much”3 years earlier
Damian is in the kitchen and tells Mia that her tea is almost ready. Mia tells him that he left his phone on the sofa and he received a phone call and she answered it. Damian as any guilty person would react, gets upset and tells Mia that he has already told her that she is not supposed to answer his phone “well I answered it because it was Carolina and she said something about a lie, what is she talking about?” Damian comes up with his usual back up lie and tells Mia that it has to do with Lola, and the Job and how Carolina has lied to her husband about Lola, but it is their problem and he has nothing to do with it, Mia tells him that Raquel should be the one talking to Carolina and not him, she says she is too old to be having tea with dad, so she leaves.
Raquel is at a plaza talking to a doctor about Mia’s situation, he tells her that the best thing to do is to be supportive of Mia and to try to get her help. Cutting has become an epidemic among teenagers her age because of how fast videos about cutting have spread. Again he recommends that Mia get support and possibly be seen by Doctor Moreno.
At the Alvarado household Santi is upset at Carolina for not being frank about having had an argument with Damian “why do I have to find out from other people?” Then Santi goes on a tangent and starts telling her that if she was home more often where she “belongs” this would not be happening. Carolina does not understand what he is getting at (and to be honest neither do I), he brings up Lola and her much older boyfriend and how this is somehow linked to Carolina and her new career, and if she was home with her kids and husband, blah, blah, blah. (I tuned out because it was getting ridiculous)
Nico walks in on them while they are arguing and tells them to stop fighting.
Vicente calls Carol to threaten her that if she doesn’t pay or tell Damian to pay he will get in his car and go to the city to talk to Damian. She asks him for one more day, Vicente will give her a day but it’s going to cost her more in interest. For every day that his money is delayed she will pay more.
Damian follows Mia into her bedroom wants to talk to her about the situation with Carol, but Mia refuses she does not want to talk to him and wants him out of the room. They continue to argue and Mia is leaving her room when they run into Raquel who is wondering what is going on. He tells Damian to leave Mia alone, that they need to talk.
At a restaurant Agustin tells Nacho to stop butting into other people’s lives, Nacho says that Carol denied everything because she has something to hide. He knows when a woman is lying. Agustin is panicking and tells nacho to stop interfering.
Santi tells Nico not to butt into an adult conversation, that he will handle things with his mother. Lola walks in and now Santi wants to talk to Lola. He tells her that he does not approve of her chasing around for Juan and he does not approve of her relationship with him. She needs to concentrate on school work and that is it.
Damian is crying his crocodile tears and says “I have failed as a husband and as a father” (yes indeed you have sir) Raquel reassures him that it’s not his fault that Mia needs help but it’s not his fault. “Oh and what were you arguing with Mia about?” Damian loads his lies and shoots them at Raquel who believes him. Raquel says we have to support Mia not judge her. Damian than says “I have to change because our daughter is hurting her body and her soul."
He steps out of the room and texts Carol to call him. She calls him and says “I am going to need you to talk to Vicente” don’t worry I will fix it he replies. “I called you and your daughter answered” “don’t’ worry I will handle that too” Damian then tells her “I think you are right, we are losing control and it probably is best that we stop seeing each other” Carol is shocked to hear Damian say this.
Present
time:
Antonio
tells Godoy that Santi says that Nacho could not have known about the affair, but he asks Godoy
to investigate all of Nacho’s moves before and after the accident. Godoy tries
to tell Antonio that he has another investigation to conduct having to do with
drug dealing. Antonio says that they need to let the department in charge of
drug dealing handle the investigation, Godoy then tells him that Rafael is involved
in the drug dealing.Cynthia gets home and Raquel asks her where she has been, if she has taken drugs? Cynthia denies it but understands that Raquel wants her out of there so she asks for a few days and then she will leave.
Godoy is home when Laura gets there, she again insinuates and instigates to try and get an argument from Godoy. She tells him that she is going to do the same thing that he did to her and at that moment she gets a picture of a very naked Juan, she says “what would you do if I was sleeping with someone else, obviously that turned Godoy on because he grabs Laura picks her up and kisses her and takes her up to the bedroom.
Alina goes to see Nico apologizes to him but tells him he needs to go to her house right now, “it’s now or never Nicolas” Nicolas choses now and goes to tell Lola he is leaving with his boss because she has some work he has to do (yes she does, really) Mia calls but I am too frustrated to repeat what she says, bottom line Nico lies to her and goes with Alina. When he leaves Lola tells him to be careful
Santi goes to see Raquel, who is calming her nerves with a shot of tequila, he asks to join her. They embrace in a very sweet embrace and then they drink a shot of tequila.
Santi says “I miss you I can’t be without you, how do you feel?”
"I feel desire and fear”
“Why fear?”
“I don’t want to make a mistake with you, everything is against us” Santi agrees.
Santi then tells her that Antonio suspects Nacho because he knew about the affair years before the accident and that makes Nacho a suspect but not only that, he becomes a suspect as well.
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Excellent Sandie.
"Then Santi goes on a tangent and starts telling her that if she was home more often where she “belongs” this would not be happening. Carolina does not understand what he is getting at (and to be honest neither do I)". Me neither. Or Niecie.
Anon, thank you for your comments on why Nacho's hate for Caro seems very over the top. I thought your comment that "he has probably held her on some kind of pedestal" was very insightful, and likely true.
"I don’t want to make a mistake with you, everything is against us” Santi agrees". I'm sorry but their being together is going to exacerbate, not soothe the many hurts they and their family have suffered.
Alina is just as dangerous a predator as Juan.
Laura IS going to show her husband those pictures of Juan. Right??
Diana
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Thanks, Sandie. Great starter.
I don't think Nacho did it. My take is he was naturally angry because his friend Santi is being made the fool. I get the impression Nacho has been cheated on too. But angry enough to commit murder? Nope, I don't see it. He's more the type to talk things out.
Yay, Godoy is not a perv.
I don't think Nacho did it. My take is he was naturally angry because his friend Santi is being made the fool. I get the impression Nacho has been cheated on too. But angry enough to commit murder? Nope, I don't see it. He's more the type to talk things out.
Yay, Godoy is not a perv.
Gracias, Sandie. Can't wait for Part 2.
Fernando isn't a perv, but based on the interactions between Damian and Mia I'm wondering whether Damian was. Raquel's conversation withe the psychologist (in Part 2) included a mention about molestation victims. Knowing the incestuous incidents in GG's past two novelas (near-misses in YNCELH and the real deal in LC) this occurred to me. Mia would have been a perfect victim during the time she isolated herself from others her own age. The way she behaved in this episode about Damian's affair sounds much more like jealousy than about standing up for her mother.
Vicente looks more and more like a suspect every time. His attempt at blackmailing Carolina is beyond frightening.
More later.
Fernando isn't a perv, but based on the interactions between Damian and Mia I'm wondering whether Damian was. Raquel's conversation withe the psychologist (in Part 2) included a mention about molestation victims. Knowing the incestuous incidents in GG's past two novelas (near-misses in YNCELH and the real deal in LC) this occurred to me. Mia would have been a perfect victim during the time she isolated herself from others her own age. The way she behaved in this episode about Damian's affair sounds much more like jealousy than about standing up for her mother.
Vicente looks more and more like a suspect every time. His attempt at blackmailing Carolina is beyond frightening.
More later.
Thanks Sandie
Didn't watch most of the episodes cause of lack of time but my bet on Nacho is kind of mixed. His actor, Adalberto Parra has almost always been cast in nasty character roles or gray area characters. He or Uncle Vincent would be the second choice of a suspect besides the crystal clear obviously nasty Andres.
By the way has it been said on how long this show is supposed to be?
Didn't watch most of the episodes cause of lack of time but my bet on Nacho is kind of mixed. His actor, Adalberto Parra has almost always been cast in nasty character roles or gray area characters. He or Uncle Vincent would be the second choice of a suspect besides the crystal clear obviously nasty Andres.
By the way has it been said on how long this show is supposed to be?
By the way doesn't it seem frightening at how bad guys tend to be more successful at their jobs? We need to replace Antonio with Grandmaster Detective Ayala To Make Detectives Great Again! His underlings would be Jack Crawford, Gill Grissom, Horatio Caine, Sherlock Holmes, Mr Monk, Patrick Jane, Agente Smith(from La Reina de Corazones) and our very own Inspector Burghetti and Detective Bernal!
It would begin of course with an interview with Burghetti and Bernal:
Bern: Hello Burg, nice to see you again buddy!
Burg: What are you doing here, Bernal. I thought we were done with our business
Bern: I've come to free you Burg. Listen I know it's kind of awkward since we are worst enemies but there are more pressing matters to attend to. If you do so I promise to pull some strings to get you out of here from the place that you deserve so much. Not for burgers but for help.
Burg: What's the case about?
Bern: Oh, it's just some shitty case from a town far far away. Do you wanna meet Sherlock?
[Sherlock theme plays]
It would begin of course with an interview with Burghetti and Bernal:
Bern: Hello Burg, nice to see you again buddy!
Burg: What are you doing here, Bernal. I thought we were done with our business
Bern: I've come to free you Burg. Listen I know it's kind of awkward since we are worst enemies but there are more pressing matters to attend to. If you do so I promise to pull some strings to get you out of here from the place that you deserve so much. Not for burgers but for help.
Burg: What's the case about?
Bern: Oh, it's just some shitty case from a town far far away. Do you wanna meet Sherlock?
[Sherlock theme plays]
Countx: I'm not 100% sure but I heard there's a total of around 90 episodes. The Mexican broadcast is about 20ish episodes ahead of us. As far as I can tell it doesn't seem like Univision is cutting scenes yet but that's still a possibility.
Sensational Part 1 Sandie. Very well written.
"Carol realizes she has just made a big mistake. (world continues crumbling)" perfectly describes Caro's continuing downward spiral.
Each successive episode makes me realize how indecisive and how easily swayed I am. I would never have suspected Nacho until the last few episodes. Count, I've also mentioned that the actor is a villain in everything I've seen him in. Still.
However, after reading what you wrote Niecie, it seems a bit farfetched that he would go as far as murdering Caro. Perhaps unless Santi put him up to it?
I really want to know when Santi really fell in love with Raquel. I think it was far earlier in the game than we might think.
Still "Carol and Santi and asks him what did you feel when you found out about Carol and Daman. Nacho confesses that he did feel hatred for Carol". That is what is bothering me. Such blind hatred all the way around for her. What about Damian??
"Vicente looks more and more like a suspect every time. His attempt at blackmailing Carolina is beyond frightening" is spot on Urban. Good point you raised about Mia as well. I think she had an unnatural obsession with Santi and her relationship with Dam does seem beyond the "normal" daughterly concern.
Lola is quite calm most of the time. I can't tell what she is thinking but there is a bit of ice that may be hiding something nefarious.
Why isn't Laura pressing charges against Juan? She has law enforcement right in her home.
Thanks Sandie.
Diana
"Carol realizes she has just made a big mistake. (world continues crumbling)" perfectly describes Caro's continuing downward spiral.
Each successive episode makes me realize how indecisive and how easily swayed I am. I would never have suspected Nacho until the last few episodes. Count, I've also mentioned that the actor is a villain in everything I've seen him in. Still.
However, after reading what you wrote Niecie, it seems a bit farfetched that he would go as far as murdering Caro. Perhaps unless Santi put him up to it?
I really want to know when Santi really fell in love with Raquel. I think it was far earlier in the game than we might think.
Still "Carol and Santi and asks him what did you feel when you found out about Carol and Daman. Nacho confesses that he did feel hatred for Carol". That is what is bothering me. Such blind hatred all the way around for her. What about Damian??
"Vicente looks more and more like a suspect every time. His attempt at blackmailing Carolina is beyond frightening" is spot on Urban. Good point you raised about Mia as well. I think she had an unnatural obsession with Santi and her relationship with Dam does seem beyond the "normal" daughterly concern.
Lola is quite calm most of the time. I can't tell what she is thinking but there is a bit of ice that may be hiding something nefarious.
Why isn't Laura pressing charges against Juan? She has law enforcement right in her home.
Thanks Sandie.
Diana
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: Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 7:31:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 7:31:00 PM EST
Thanks Sandie. I've read the summary of amar, despues de amar and it has 70 episodes but someone mentioned that caer en tentacion has more episodes. Its interesting to see some of the differences between the Mexican and Argentian one. In the Argentinian one, Damian's last name is "Kaplan" and the family runs a fishery; Damian moves in a circle of country club members; Andres is good-looking and one can understand why Raquel dated him before she married Damian; Carolina is a tanga instructor and Laura is younger and good-looking. I think the Mexican actors are much better.
Despite some of the differences, I think that the story line is pretty much the same - including the villians.
There is still much to happen to clarify the motivations for Carolina's murder.
Despite some of the differences, I think that the story line is pretty much the same - including the villians.
There is still much to happen to clarify the motivations for Carolina's murder.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 9:11:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 2, 2017 at 9:11:00 PM EST
Hi all, thanks for stopping by, just posted the second part. I got busy this morning and was not able to do it until now. It was quiet a busy episode, a lot of dialogue. I did not like Damian crying about Mia, he actually seemed very fake. It reminded me of why I did not like Vino in the first place.
Mia and Alina need to go to a metal hospital, and prison. So does Juan, sending those explicit photos of himself. Why does Laura put up with it?
Mia and Alina need to go to a metal hospital, and prison. So does Juan, sending those explicit photos of himself. Why does Laura put up with it?
My bet on why Laura doesnt do anything is to keep everything under the rug. Remember that she's very career focused. Sometimes those kind of people can't afford mishaps or 'dirty laundry'. Precisely because of that I hope she would order Nando to beat Juan to an inch to his life , to teach him a lesson he won't forget. Nando could say it was "self-defense)
Kind of like in the movies where bad guys frame other people before killing them. " He had a gun" ," I had no other choice" ,"He tried to attack me" . Then , bang bang . No one will remember ya then Juan!
Thanks, Sandie. Part 2 is terrific. May fave: Damian is crying his crocodile tears and says “I have failed as a husband and as a father” (yes indeed you have sir). This might be only the second time Damian remembers he's a dad. And I've never send him show any interest in Fer.
Laura wants the story, so she's putting up with Juan's crap. She seems not to get that being a TV gossip reporter doesn't make her immune from his violence. Godoy has been trying to get his wife in bed all along, but she's rebuffed him till Juan's crazies.
Santi is so wrong going off on Caro about working outside the home, all because he's feeling his family is out of control, but it's obvious he cares about each one of them.
Laura wants the story, so she's putting up with Juan's crap. She seems not to get that being a TV gossip reporter doesn't make her immune from his violence. Godoy has been trying to get his wife in bed all along, but she's rebuffed him till Juan's crazies.
Santi is so wrong going off on Caro about working outside the home, all because he's feeling his family is out of control, but it's obvious he cares about each one of them.
I think Nacho's "hate" and anger toward Carolina stems from the fact that he feels personally betrayed by her because as the dutiful, obedient wife of his good friend, he has probably held her on some kind of pedestal, beyond reproach. Damian is almost a non-factor in his mind and therefore barely registers on his (Nacho) radar. It's not that he thinks Damian is any less guilty, but he doesn't care enough about him to waste his emotions on him. "Betray my BFF, and you betray me!"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 12:15:00 PM EST
: Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 12:15:00 PM EST
I'm not really in shock anymore that Raquel dated Andres. Even if he didn't attempt to disguise himself as a decent human being there's the whole demented mentality of "kiss an ugly frog ten times and he'll change" that some women fall for. The same happened with Vincent and his wife when his wife said in earlier episodes that she married him because he was "manly enough" to be her guard from all ills. She also thought he could slowly be changed by her affection.
Excellent Sandie.
"Then Santi goes on a tangent and starts telling her that if she was home more often where she “belongs” this would not be happening. Carolina does not understand what he is getting at (and to be honest neither do I)". Me neither. Or Niecie.
Anon, thank you for your comments on why Nacho's hate for Caro seems very over the top. I thought your comment that "he has probably held her on some kind of pedestal" was very insightful, and likely true.
"I don’t want to make a mistake with you, everything is against us” Santi agrees". I'm sorry but their being together is going to exacerbate, not soothe the many hurts they and their family have suffered.
Alina is just as dangerous a predator as Juan.
Laura IS going to show her husband those pictures of Juan. Right??
Diana
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 4:25:00 PM EST
: Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 4:25:00 PM EST
Great job, Sandie!
Once again Damian proving to viewerville what a good liar he is. So now he's attempting to turn the tables and "break up" with Caro. Yeah, right.
In the first episodes of this TN I did note that the "3 yrs prior" Santiago was a bit of a jerk and that side of him reappeared in this episode. Keeping Caro like a prisoner in her own home is only gonna make her "rebel" like a little kid and maintain the affair with Damian.
By now everyone and their mother is a suspect but I am ruling out Nacho and Agustin. They don't seem that cold blooded even for their friend.
I agree that Juan and Alina are essentially the same. Hope they both get locked up or killed.
I wonder if anything else interesting will happen with this weird Godoy/Cinthia situation.
Once again Damian proving to viewerville what a good liar he is. So now he's attempting to turn the tables and "break up" with Caro. Yeah, right.
In the first episodes of this TN I did note that the "3 yrs prior" Santiago was a bit of a jerk and that side of him reappeared in this episode. Keeping Caro like a prisoner in her own home is only gonna make her "rebel" like a little kid and maintain the affair with Damian.
By now everyone and their mother is a suspect but I am ruling out Nacho and Agustin. They don't seem that cold blooded even for their friend.
I agree that Juan and Alina are essentially the same. Hope they both get locked up or killed.
I wonder if anything else interesting will happen with this weird Godoy/Cinthia situation.
Sandie: I was tracking with you and those asides! Great recap of events! I saw this epi as a filler of sorts. IMO, Lola wouldn't have fallen for this stalking gym teacher/pervert if she's had some other guys her own age interested and asking her out --that doesn't include Federico who is younger. However, it is odd that Lola's parents haven't taken issue from the start that the guy was too old for her. It was pretty darned obvious.
Jardinera, Lola threatened to report him to HR but she never fulfilled her threat but then the perv got her secret. Seeing at how our evil girls get court preference almost all the time Lola's case with a good lawyer would have been a landslide in the kangaroo courts.
I've always wondered how evil people are more adept at manipulating the system obtaining things through forgeries, false witness, fake evidence, bribery, murder while the commonly fair people get screwed over precisely because of their poor knowledge of the system. The common folk tries to apply emotion in court but the bad guy know that the only necessary thing is the sheer size of their conniving determination. Yago&LC were very good examples of my theory :)
I've always wondered how evil people are more adept at manipulating the system obtaining things through forgeries, false witness, fake evidence, bribery, murder while the commonly fair people get screwed over precisely because of their poor knowledge of the system. The common folk tries to apply emotion in court but the bad guy know that the only necessary thing is the sheer size of their conniving determination. Yago&LC were very good examples of my theory :)
Tonight's might be a "just the facts" because of the insanity of the last few days. Just thought I'd warn my readers.
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