Monday, January 22, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of January 22, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
• 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos**
• 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego**
• 8-9PM—José José, el Príncipe de la Canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

**Starting this week, Las Reglas del Juego will air for just one hour per day (1-2PM) rather than two.  A Turkish novela, Secretos Peligrosos, will air from 12-12:30PM, and Noticias will fill the remaining half hour (12:30-1PM)

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By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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JOSE JOSE 1/22

THE SHOW IS MOVING ALONG, WE HAVE WHAT ??? a little over a WEEK??

The battle for Jose is on!!
Anel, enlist the services of a private eye... to keep taps on his movements

His producer /promoter, was able to get his songs upgraded and within a different genre

Lucrecia and mom, have different perspective as far as her future with Pepe… and her continuing to stay …. with mom and how to handle the rumors of the platonic domicile arrangement…

In the meanwhile, baby brother robs his mother for a two-bit gutter snipe
Lucy, noticed the slag, counting a wad pf cash…

The producer hired his fan club president and she had a lot of promotion ideas. Radio interview and rereleases and special edition of his previous album…

Jose flash backs show his earlier days as starts in the business and his first real mentor’s. Alvaro…who he desires and request ,him as his arranger later in his career!1

Sr. Alvaro was the mentor that to warn him off drinking ……it messes with your rhythm!!
He had a band and a serious hustle in his early days. he was a master of serval instruments…virtuoso
He understands that he appreciates Alvaro musicality. and intends to use his songs somewhere…

He travels to promote his new album and gives, Alvaro a shout out, but the journalist wants to know abt his love life [Anel]esp. that journalist that she paid off to name drop. Her name.…

Pepe visits mom and must run into Lucrecia, but like brother and sister they keep things cool, but she still loves him..
…. The nun in the house has her back.


KIKI has decided to pull and control Jose affections…. but by subterfuge

LOL.. IT WAS too deep.. slip that tea.. she read Anel..like a book..She called it when, she called Anel an escort. ‘two-bit’. call girl.

Kiki asked as for an application of white magic a love charm…ok
She enlists the aid of your local witch and engage in brujaria..

 

Santa Diabla

Mara’s boyfriend stood around looking real stupid when the bitch from hell, came and took the baby, where are your lawyers?? You have money!! Damn grandma, Hortense was rich…

The mystery person with the poison pen letter s, has a lot of Hi-Tech equipment, … what is the point of this … theme from an Agatha Cristy novel??

Santa is unable to accept her machination. obsessions may have cost her custody of her son, Little Willi to his dad, Big Willi.

Alicia has a real hankering for BW… and he has surrendered to her affection... that sets Barbara and Jessica off plotzing. as the child they threw away has come back to reclaim it all… One Eye Alicia is a bit*h on two legs….
...Humberto, is surprised to find Alicia is central to all their plotting to keep control…

....now Willie will marry into this family from HELL.
The family that tried to frame/ kidnap and almost... kill him??

Dude think abt it!!!
The whole group all the player is lured into a garage and locked in, for the kill!!!

 

Sangre

Where are these people??

Crisp, how the heck can you withhold Aurora severance…eps.. when YOU HAVE BUSINESS LIABILITY INSURANCE.. this is the U.S.A.. for goodness sakes??!!!

Aurora, don’t go back to EMPEROR NAPOLEON. In a lot of ways.. You haven’t grownup..!!

But to see the way Mercedes hacks you to death is very interesting??

Croissants will be applauded by his peers, because he is aggressive in his stance.. and business first in approach [cut throat and always on the offensive..]He is manly, individualistic and it pays off

Spill the wine -dig -that girl…”..yes that was a real..’dope fiend Move’..but effective… it gets him results.. all is fair in love /war..
He has no negative compulsion abt his strategies..…It will earn him respect… and esteem among the farmers…

Nobody can sauce him of being a ..’Wussy’..
Wait until, he sees all his kids have moved over to enemy camp..!?
In the end he and Mercedes will have accept their Afro Latino grandkids. Or Paco’s kids??!!!
The son as gender fluid… Aurora with juanjose. As well as eating a mile of crow pie.. when Robert is exposed..

I think Dolores’s kids have the tablet!!???

On the flip…
Natalia, …. Regroup, woman warrior and clean house….
Paco, went real low, when he said, the marriage was a disaster,
Girl cut, yours loses.. and bounce. Move on…

Yes Luis.. get it together. Anita ,Are you in some sort of a Postpartum flux/hormonal whirlpool.. somebody should recognize her pain…please place that women in a support group and why isn’t she receiving after care for the loss of her child!! she is acting strange!!

The joggers found the body… deep !!!and Wilmer is covered in DNA… Robert bum rushed the whole event, so the car.etc.…is DNA covered..

Sara, you are a delight and surprise.. still water runs deep into cray cray town.. she may have grifters as parents.. because she is very aware of his scam..
Stay alive girl, and run him ragged!!Love it!!!

Salvador was ready to play both side against each other??maybe…??? he was reimbursed but he has his fangs out!!! Looking for an in!! why??

 

Sangre,

Paloma and Paco. Go-on-Get it over with and mud wrestle, get dirty, cause Paco is doing Natalia dirty.
.....if your marriage was over then why did you,let Natalia/the marriage, carry on, in a lie for years!!!

Anita !!get help! you have post -partum depression, you did miscarry, deal with it!!
Sorry but, Jjuanjo had to put you in check...then Luis had to put in check …

Mujer maltrata...
Robert went to the edge again, I hope this ass whipping, will wake you up Aurora, you just got to take it and try to make it!!!
....get the ...'f’... up and GET-THE-F-OUT...

WTF!!ok ...girl,,,,,STILL trying to reason and talk AND STILL GETTING A BEAT DOWN.CALL THE COPS!!

OK, BEAT ME !! but leave my clothes alone ...!! she was more upset to see tomorrows’ work Outfits all over the floor, then the stranglation marks on her neck.

Poor Aurora, you are in -arms -reach to the frying pans, and when psycho said: he will kill you and myself, nutso, means it......run for your life... grab the kid and bounce... oh! No... I am too bougie to have problems like abuse.

Bed…. placate time and must service him as well...??? after a beat down... now it’s time to have sex… Classic!!.... or let him sleep, so you can bust his head wide-open!!

Hard to watch, to see how beat- down she was…this chick is like retarded, Robert picked the right victim...she had no strategy for surviving, she took the easy road... nonconfrontational at all cost... at the cost of her life...open your mouth and scream... that’s your dad on the phone and you don’t call for help!!

Wake the baby, wake the whole neighborhood, bust out windows !! fight!! what kind of female doesn’t know how to throw things.

Aurora, you were taught to be a child and a victim. everything in that house should have went as a missile. Let's get -it-tore- up- from- the- floor- up!!

This victim as leading lady is letting the home team down…
Sara was down with it, all the abuse, Sara is sick and hateful!!


 

SANGRE

BLOOD BATH coming!!
Paco took Natalia for a stroll on the beach. she needs it. Natalia had a nervous break down, for real!!Now take her for counseling… stop parking people and hoping for the best. look at Anita…

Sun and fun on the clean fresh lovely beach. I almost like Paco, and good to come out of the funky funk…...
Team Natalia…

Anita busted, and daddy crisp and Mercedes are busted, Robert called them on it and shovel a ton of bull to cover the madness... and they shallowed it...because in essence, they approved of his attitude, they are the reason Aurora is a wimp.. and timid! and easy to dominate!

When that girl comes out of this she need to clean house!! Mentally !!
she will have to kill Robert to break this spell!! and I am down for it!!

 

Sangre 39

thanks so much Halimacandy, love your comments!

the story is moving right along,

Paco and Paloma end up parked in a mud puddle in the woods, they had called for a tow truck 2 hours ago, but now Paloma's phone is dead and Paco has no signal, Paloma leans over and kisses him, then apologizes, he leans over and kisses her and... they don't say, but Paloma dresses real nice for work the next day, her mother notices, do you have a boyfriend?

Luis checked on Nat, she was out cold, some over-the-counter sleeping pills by her side, when Paco finally gets there he tells him her vital signs were good, they just let her sleep, morning comes and it looks like Paco put her in the shower, they are both all wet, Nat just wants to sleep.

later Paco gets Nat to the beach, she hates him for it, smells the air, barefoot in the sand, they start splashing each other, she smiles, she tells him someone ?? said get a girl to smile and you'll win her heart,,, but she has never seen a clown with a lot of girlfriends, asks Paco why he bothers, as he hallucinates seeing Paloma (it was another girl walking the beach), he says he needs her, more than ever.

apparently Anita told Rob about Aurora and Juanjo, he plays it cool till she lies and he goes ape, lots of choking, throwing her around, smashes her phone, rips out the house phone, tells her he will kill her then himself, they sleep together (is all they show), and stops her from sneaking out early, takes her keys and locks her in, Sara heard all the noise, he explains how she is cheating on him, did you hit her she asks, of course not answers Rob.

Anita rips on Sere for using her desk, Juanjo tells Anita to sit someplace else and gets her keys to the lab.

Luis sees the Aurora lab setup and accuses Juanjo of cutting him out, JJ explains about Anita not letting them use the lab, Luis then rips on Anita, I can defend myself.

Aurora was supposed to be there early, doesn't answer her phone, Juanjo is worried.

Anita's cousin shows up at work, Apparently Anita went out last night but told Luis something else, he wants the truth.

Leo has a chat with that girl again, he new he was a girl when he was three, she fills him in on how it works, and what she went through.

Rob joins Cris and family for a meal, (Dimas taking bites between oxygen hits) he leans on Cris for not telling him about Aurora and Juanjo, the truth always comes out (do you hear yourself Rob), but he will fix things, what's important is her son and her family, things will be changing (Cris, do you see yourself in Rob).

 

"SANTA DIABLA":

That's Gaby Espino from "Senora ACERO 4".
 

Sangre

Many thanks, Halimacandy and deb, for your excellent recaps. I found it a very difficult episode to watch, given the extended and rather vivid portrayal of Rob's crazed violence toward Aurora. I did have the feeling (or perhaps it was just the expectation? hope?) that Cris and/or Meche may have been somewhat uneasy with Rob's account of how he'll soon get Aurora back into shape. Dimas too looked a bit uncomfortable. Perhaps he can talk some sense into Cris? Unlikely, but... deb, I loved your "(Cris, do you see yourself in Rob?)."

I sure hope the smart, sensible, determined Aurora gets back from whatever planet she's visiting. The sniveling, wussy victim Aurora has got to go!
 

Sangre, Mon, 1-22-18

Halimacandy, your comment about Aurora being arms length from frying pans was so true. I literally gave up and assumed it was some sort of twisted foreplay for Aurora...There were too many missed defensive and offensive moves that could have saved her. At this point I'm sure she knows better.

Nat woke up. Props to Paco for being there for her...and making her get out of the house. Fortunately i was wrong thinking she was going to try to drown herself. And Despite last night's kiss and past insinuations of unfaithfulness, it took months for Paco to get a kiss. Far from a womanizer he's more of a misunderstood lil boy. I dont think he had it in him to make the first move...his Paloma fantasies are pretty innocent and juvenile. She showed her boobs to an old man for money and he kissed a young girl...what's next for these two?

Anita was put in her place twice but problem is she's only been given the role of a bitter opportunist who betrays her own family with their arch enemy. Time will reveal what she's made of.

Cris, and maybe Meche, picked up on Rob's misognist comments about Aurora. He knows Rob plays dirty, and Rob's already on his sh*t list so his eyes should have opened. In the end, with full knowledge of what's going on, Cris WILL protect his family.

When it comes to fear and intimidation, Rob always looks like a kid testing the waters. Put him in his place and he'll back down.

Spanish Student
 

Of course my comment, "She showed her boobs to an old man for money and he kissed a young girl...what's next for these two?" ...was re: Nat and Paco.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre

Thank you Halimacandy and deb for recapping.

Juanita, I found this difficult to watch, too.

Halimacandy--Rob sure did "shovel a ton of bull" at dinner and I hope Cris, Meche & Dimas got indigestion or at least a clue.

Spanish Student, totally agree about Anita as "bitter opportunist". Doubt she will learn anything.

Paco flirts with danger again. He went through something similar with Kimberly. I don't remember if there was any kissy-face involved.

So much seems to happen off camera:
Did we miss a face to face meeting with Anita & Rob? Maybe we will get a flashback? It would have been interesting to see the look on Rob's face when he was told about Small New Wine and Anita's reaction. She needs to get scared straight.

and

How did Roberto get Fatal Attraction Sara back in line? She seemed like her old harmless neurotic self again.

I'd like to see someone other than Juanjo rescue Aurora.


dondi356
 

SANGRE

GOOD GIRLS , NICE GIRLS ARE PERFECT VICTIMS.. LADIES UNTIL YOU DIE??!!
WTF!!

Aurora, has to rescued?? Either way, when Robert is in jail..she has a lot of recovery to deal with, get in the program group and welcome to therapy... all survivors!!!when she can stand up to her parents she will become a strong adult...

Anita, need a shrinks !! bad!!..I am cutting her a break due to the hormones!!

Luis wants to know where she was, Robert??!!...

Paco ,[you bastard]...came through!! Team Natalia, my girl was burnt out...!!. remember when it took all five persons /members of the company... to make decision one lone women was carrying.. rest my dear!!Paco ,[bastard -old coot]get to rubbing that back, neck,and those feet/tootsies..!! be useful..!!

.. so we are wrapping up!!!...gee whiz!! THEY HACKED THIS SHOW TO DEATH!!!
NOT HAPPY!!

 

Sangre

Dondi356, you are right about Sara. She heard Aurora begging and crying and she didn't do a thing. Would she really side with Rob when she has reason to doubt him?

I think the writers led us on about Paco and Kimberly, so up until yesterday, he was guilt-free. Not to make light of the kiss but he's not one of the bad guys. His interest in Paloma, desire to help Delores, and the way he handled Nat yesterday, are evidence that he sees women as his equal and supports them. since he doesn't have a hidden dark side or agenda, I'm hoping they'll get through whatever is at the root of their marital problems.

Paloma hasn't been kicked out for suing the family business? Must be for a reason.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre:
upsetting how badly this show is being hacked. We need to assume that Anita told Roberto about Aurira working on the wine project with Juanjo and Serena at the Montiels. I think it was a coming attraction where we saw Anita calling Roberta but their meeting was totally cut! And who is Anita's prima that Anita supposedly spent an evening with and lied to Luis about? I don't remember ever seeing her before? Bella
 

Sangre 40

wow, this show is really popping, they don't even have time for the credits, do they?

Sofi sees Leo hugging some hot babe and she is gone, never wants to see him again, but wait, her mom is Doris, what?, Leo hangs till she will talk with him, he explains, the girl was Alejandro, a guy, (there must have been some more to this because she didn't run) Sofi is back on board.

Paloma wants to know what's up with the MIA Aurora, Meche tells her not to meddle, Paloma goes to see Rob who is resting upstairs, sees his phone instead with the live cam still on showing the inside of his home, she relays to Juanjo, he and Sere go calling.

Aurora looks around for a way out, something, finds Rob's gun, and when Rob comes home forces him the give her the keys and let her go, nope, he grabs the gun because she didn't shoot (ah, would there have been a surprised look on Rob's face if she did) now he holds her at gunpoint, and pulls the trigger, the gun wasn't loaded (did he know).

Aurora has crumpled, Juanjo and Sere have arrived, he loads the gun, she answers the door, but won't let them in, Rob to the side, gun pointed at her head, she blows them off, doesn't want to do the small wine thing anymore, they leave.

back at the winery, Luis says I know what's going on, Anita told him about her working here, Anita's version is he wasn't happy but he didn't go bonkers either, Aurora is the one with the attitude. (somebody steal her red lipstick)

Leo's family with Dimas in tow gasping for oxygen, show up for his soccer match, Sofi spots Alexis, who lives near here and stops by to watch some of the matches, Sofi drags her back to the family seats, (as Alexis is saying, no, no, no), Leo scores, they win, and all back to the house to celebrate, Leo introduces Rafa (the guy who was arrested for beating on the gay) he makes a play, Alexis is playing it cool but I know she wants outta there. Rafa says they are sure to be in the final five, Leo gets a text and I think they are, (but I think he has other plans).

JJ goes back, but Rob sees him looking in, and makes it nice with Aurora (where is spy Sara as Jaunjo sneaks around) JJ reports back, she is just playing house.

Paloma is all prim and proper, looking her best, awaiting Paco at work, he shows, with Natalia, Nat compliments her on her work with the new book and leaves as they meet with the publisher ??, meeting over Paloma calls Paco on, you have been avoiding me, they agree to forget about the kiss, he leaves, but comes back, they kiss, and... this time they do it.

meanwhile, Nat is telling Susan, and of course they are sipping some wine like all of the other scenes in this show, how Paco saved her life, and how much he really loves me.

Susan gets a call, a friend of Wilmers wants to make a statement.

Paco is all guilt, this is the first time I have cheated, Paloma won't hold him to anything, she understands, but it was amazing, they kiss again.

Rob has been toying with the baby as a horrified Aurora watches on, he will let her out once she understands what it's like to be a good wife, he goes for a shower, tells her when he is done, he wants her naked and willing.

 

"SANGRE":

Spanish Student: "She showed her boobs to an old man for $$$" ROFLOL. She was prostituting herself ?

HALIMACANDY: We've got bloodthirsty Body Count rising up, crazy person going well... crazy & now law enforcement authorities still incompetent.
 

Sangre

Thanks, deb. Great recap!

Steve, no just once Nat gave in to an old, lonely man's request in order to win a contract (against Cris).

Aurora takes Rob's abuse for another day. While home alone I think she finds an old, uncharged phone but immediately throws it away. Why? Who hasn't waited a few minutes for their phone to charge? The writers have turned her into someone unrecognizable...weak and foolish. She doesn't love him so why is she holding back? Losing interest in her storyline.

But Nat is back revealing a kinder, less tyrannical side...for now. Glad they didn't prolong her sadness.

Without much passion in the air, Paco and Paloma go all the way. He says he loves his wife and Paloma says no pressure. But since Nat told Susan how wonderful Paco was throughout her ordeal, I suspect something will go wrong.

Was yesterday a day off? Cris and family spend the day at Leo's game and Rob was at home in full torture mode.

They finally gave Leo more time. I'm still clueless about what identity change to expect from him. He loves his liberal girlfriend, hasn't shown an interest in men, likes dressing up as a woman, and now has a friend from the lgbtq community. Some would say he's borderline normal these days.

Anita doesn't have any knowledge or skills so she can only offer pettiness and juvenile discussion.

Serena, must be hard for her...do i put forth the energy to save my bff who'll likely steal my man or do I let her solve her own problems. I get it...if Aurora is free FROM Rob then she's free FOR Juanjo. It's time for 2 eligible bachelors to enter for both Serena and Paloma.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre

Thank you deb and Spanish Student.

Another difficult show to watch.

Time for the writers to rescue Aurora from this story line. If she can extricate herself, fine, but please don't use Juanjo to do it. Stop making Aurora's parents complicit in the abuse. It would be nice if she had the support of her parents to help her break free.

Spanish Student, I like your take on Serena's dilemma. She's become my favorite character in this mess.

Hoping that the other sommelier, Cristian?, comes back for Sere and Jordan comes back for Paloma. Or maybe both women will realize they don't need a man to be successful and happy.

Leo is transgender but there's not much time left to resolve anything. The writers were bold enough to go there but perhaps they don't want to go very far into it.

dondi356
 

Sangre

Yes, dondi356, this was certainly another difficult episode to watch. The only good thing is that if the story line follows the usual path, things get very grim right before the Happy Ending. But I'm not sure how many more episodes of domestic violence and a brainless, spineless Aurora I can stand.

Great recaps, deb and Spanish Student! One small point, deb: when Leo looks at his email and sees the list of people who have made the top five, his name is #1, but Rafa's is #6. That may be one reason he didn't want to talk about the email with an optimistic Rafa sitting right there. deb, I loved your "(somebody steal her red lipstick)"! And I too wondered whether Rob knew the gun wasn't loaded. If I had to guess one way or the other, I'd guess that he knew. He knew that he had bought bullets for the gun, and he probably remembered that he hadn't put any in. Of course, Aurora could have found the bullets and loaded the gun, but I doubt he'd have thought of that. And in her present zombie state, he's probably right not to have thought of it.

Spanish Student, I so agree with your saying that the writers have turned Aurora into someone unrecognizable. I too am getting fed up with the portrayal. I also enjoyed your take on Anita. (And I sometimes think that without her red lipstick, her face would fall off.)

dondi356, I like your idea about Christian and Jordan, and even more your suggestion that perhaps the women will realize they don't need a man to be successful and happy.
 

Sangre

great comments everyone!

thanks Juanita for adding the bit about Rafa being 6th, I 'assumed' the list was only the top five.

"And I sometimes think that without her red lipstick, her face would fall off." HA!

Spanish, I was thinking Aurora plugged the phone in but that it just wasn't working.

dondi, I too like Serena and would hate for her to get hurt.

Juanjo is trouble, (and why didn't he tip Aurora to the inside cameras)

in "Sin Senos" Cata was taken to a safe house, but when she started thinking maybe she should leave, she found herself a prisoner, behind the drapes the windows were bricked up, those that weren't had bars, and the doors were solid with no glass, this is not the case with Aurora, I see hundreds of ways to get out of there, it took Rob no time at all to open a window (but we didn't see what he did) but a chair would make a nice hole in it, and there is always the shoot the locks off (of course this might scare the baby but attract the police), the writers are really toying with us making Aurora a prisoner.

 

JOSE JOSE

last night, we watch the madness of kiki and anel... but my money is on Kiki, my god, my girl is using practical LOVE magic...

the nun of the family is busy :tsk- tsking everybody!!

the baby brother.. is fighting for his place on the team..and a way to hook up with the teeny bopper tramp...

Luceria is prepping to go to Europe and study... she also is getting bad vibes form baby brother..

before she leaves she and mom encourage the nun to get a job and reform and guide the hippies!!

Chumo ,his roadee is maintaining in face of temptation..but he is hanging out with a sick addict.. who will pass you dope in a new York minute... and with no ill intent .. just doing her thing..

Anel is a addict !!! and a very vary bad influence...because she is carless!!
....

Kiki contacted Anel's, madam /pimpette, and had the woman contact Anel's last patron /trick/sugar daddy..
.. as result of slick moves ...didn't the sugar daddy, show up at the performance.. and call her out as tramp...a good one,but still a tramp...

Kiki has skills, but she is negligent mother..

Kiki has a friend that can make those magical connection..he used some'LOVE -STAY-BY -MY-SIDE'... A dash of ..Lover-Be-True' powder and looks like ...'I-GOT -YOU-ALWAYS' candle...

just saying!!!
 

TELEMUNDO

STEVE..

YOU HAVE three new shows directly!!!

See you..' on- the- go-round'..!

if you watch INTIMATE ENEMY..Then I will watch too!!

its Monica/ Mona from SenorCielos??!
 

Sangre

Deb thanks for recap..
Spanish you are on the money

Juanita:
thanks, its is very painful.. !!

every body.. we may get some relief tonight.. cause this is basically it.. Friday...??

what ever gonna happen got to happen soon??!

who is that dude that is Wilmer's friend!!

 

SANGRE

well it's abt time...
Classic abuse scenario.. after he kicks your ass, hw wants to kiss!!
yuck, he used her like rag to wipe his funky-self with...

she finally realized he was going to kill her.........

finally she hauled-ass!! ... Aurora did a three strikes , you out!!

juanjo and serena had real interesting conversation... abt Aurora's need to please Daddy!!

Natalia and paco, all lovey dovey, but he had another woman on his mind the whole time..
what didshe do to deserve a lying -cheating-rat bastard

Paloma makes a date but Paco got ..'cop-blocked'.. by his own wife...

please lord . when Natalia finally digs -the- scene,...OMG!!


Aurora on the run and out of her mind, and of course psycho locates her, the devil has radar..

some one ,gave a good observation abt leo...

leo are you really gay!!... or sexually fluid..or just a teenager...give it time!!
Leo is a transvestite.. sex with woman [he ain't a lesbian] and desire to wear women cloth...

however..no male sexual partners, as of yet...? and at his age, he would have had male :male... sexual encounters by now!! espec in high school...some where with somebody..some time!! chat line!!apps!! and they used a biological female as a transsexual..??!!


Paco and Paloma, Micheal is on to you!

Robert the move to the police station was stupid and you overplayed your hand, cause they aint buying it.. she can say self defense....
he is not worried because he has her trained like a dog!

Mercedes and Cris, really. what kind of parents are you ?? if your child [ the wimpette]...hurt her husband ...you have to take her side..she is not a criminal..you do know Aurora....have you met before? right??

but you have that much animosity toward her..!!....do you want punish her!!

... why because your son is dead!!..they must have wanted Aurora to die instead of Emilio!!1
cause they are so hateful and mean..no compassion for her!!

...even my husband could not understand how..any parent would think in favor of the soninlaw...my girlchild..my soft timid -child wouldn't hit you for -no-good- reason!!

Parents.. really, the man is confessing that they argued and he dominated her and she attacked him.. do you hate your own child that much!!

let's see ,Aurora was never a hell raiser, or a raving rager, or has a history of fighting or brawling with men!!.. she aint Paloma....

SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE!!,VERY WRONG ON A LOT OF LEVELS!!!

then sick-Sara comes to accuse Aurora of murder...

the cops come and drag her jail.. bases on Sara's accusation..

the cameras..!!!??? are the real witnesses.....!!!!!!!!!!

lets get a lawyer and get this tale of abuse relayed.... loud and clear..

the story of an suburban business woman.. 'I WAS PISTOL WHIPPED IN MY RANCHSTYLE HOME'..!!

and how I liberated my self!'...
 

sangre

I hope Cris and Mercedes ,have enjoyed Emilio,

because when this madness is resolved they will have lost a daughter and a grandchild..

Aurora will have to put distance ,time and space between her TOXIC PARENTS... and herself , until her trauma work takes root..!!

She let her parents , keep her infantile.. and then they betrayed her on a cellular... even a COSMIC level..!!

Emilio will be in high school before I WOULD THINK ABT letting them have contact... and then they would have to show me an therapeutic certificate from....IYANLA SAVE MY TOXIC FAMILY ...!!!!!

 

Sangre - Wed, 1-24-18

Aurora gets away by clocking Roberto with a wine bottle. (The camera revealed 2 bottles near him yesterday and i was hoping she'd use them.). She escapes frantically with baby. Sara comes, sees bloody Roberto, buys his victim crap, and despite protesting, lets him drive her car. Aurora does the only thing that could further complicate things...running to Juanjo and Serena. Roberto, always ready to spin a story and give himself good PR, drives himself to the police station to press charges against Aurora. He immediately passes out (or fakes it) and is transferred to the hospital where Cris and Meche see him beaten up. Cris appeared to fall for his story but I think Meche knows her daughter isn't the uncontrollable, self-centered person Rob speaks of.

If anyone could (and should) see through Rob it's Susan. I don't think she bought Sara appearing as a witness for Rob. His name has crossed her desk so many times lately. Her character needs an expanded role in order to solve his long list of crimes. If Auror's arrested she can use tge time to finalky press charges against him. Time to introduce a criminal or family law attorney.

Halimacandy, you made a good point. Those cameras are Her saving grace. Before her attack on Rob there were days of abuse proving he kept her against her will.

Paloma needs to stop with the nervous glances, smiles, gestures, and of sex with Paco in the office. Unlike Kimberly, she's showing a lack of discretion that'll surely land Paco in the doghouse (deservedly so). Is it her youth cuz I'm not sure she cares, i.e. the writers haven't given her any thoughts of guilt. She's just asking to get caught.

I also agree that Leo's story is hard to get into to. He's better served in the office spying on Rob.

Spanish Student

 

Sangre

wow, thanks so much Spanish Student for your write up, yep, Rob seems to be getting better with the stories he spins, plus he gets more pain killers.

anyway I wrote up some stuff, I'll go ahead and post it, I admire you guys for watching in Spanish, so maybe some of the details I glean in english will be of interest.

 

Sangre 41

Roberto forces Aurora to have sex, and throws in how nice things will be when she gets with the program, the next morning Aurora coming out of the bathroom sees Rob is still out and she goes for the keys, he awakes and grabs her, madness in his eyes, she wacks him with a wine bottle to the head, stuns him, next she wacks him with a laptop ?? puts him down, bloody and out cold, she runs for it with the baby, still in her PJ's.

Sara sees the commotion comes to check on Rob, she gets him back to life, he demands her car keys, she dresses his wound before letting him go.

Rafa gets in to the university, Leo is not so lucky, apparently someone quit the team, Cris knows Leo is the better player, says he's proud of him anyway, gives him Emilio's watch, it's a MAN's watch, later Leo skypes Alexis and spills, she suggests he come to a meeting and hear stories from others.

Sere comforts Juanjo, but he can't perform (Sere is like the perfect girlfriend).

Nat was afraid she would lose Paco after their big fight, now she just wants to please him, she wants to go jogging with him, not knowing it's a Paloma date.

Paul, the editor / publisher ?? of the book wants 6 more interviews, will bring it to 200 pages, easier to sell, also they will pay $5000 to ?? to do an exposition thingy to promote the book, Paloma says she will do it, but needs help, Paco, while they are sorting things out, Paloma, being a free spirit, wants to do it, and someone shows, will they get caught?

Aurora races to the cop shop to get help, but wait Rob is right behind her, she takes off, Rob doesn't, he goes in to file a report, but collapses, and Susan takes him to the hospital, the doctor confirms the blows could have been made while he was lying down and unaware, hmm, that makes it premeditated.

Aurora makes it to Juanjo and Sere's place, she is a wreck, and spills all, Joaquin is also there, after Juanjo cools down they decide to go to the police.

Rob is released and goes to the station with Susan to file a report, Susan tells him before he signs, if they find Aurora and she is injured or says Rob hurt her, things will change, enter Sara the neighbor to back up his story.

Earnesto barges into Jaunjo's place, arrests Aurora for attempted murder.


(hmm, Aurora in jail, Rob with the baby)

 

Sangre

Thanks VERY much, Halimacandy, Spanish Student, and deb, for these excellent recaps. I don't really have anything to add, except to mention that at the start, the friend of Wilmer tells the police that Wilmer really wanted to get back at someone because that person did something very bad and should pay for it AND he messed with his (Wilmer's) family. That leads the police to visit Dolores. They ask whether she has any enemies or people who gave her a hard time. One of her young sons pipes up: your boss, mama. She tries to deny that there was ever a problem, but Susan asks the boy for the name of the boss. Was it Crisanto? No. Roberto? Sí. So in addition to Aurora's earlier attempt to file a denuncio against Roberto, Susan also has this information about Roberto giving Dolores a hard time.

I have a feeling, though, that Halimacandy nailed it when she mentioned the cameras as witnesses. That would be such fitting irony!

One more thing, though not all that important: I'm somewhat confused about Leo and Rafa and the university. Somehow Rafa got into the university to play soccer but Leo did not? That's peculiar, since the email message that Leo got from the coach in the previous episode listed the best players, and #1 was Leo, while Rafa was #6 (and the list was supposed to name the top 5). So then why should Rafa have been selected to play soccer and not Leo? Or did Leo turn down the opportunity and not tell his parents that he had done so? He tells Alexis that he doesn't want to have anything more to do with the macho soccer world.
 

Sangre

Deb, Attempted murder? Seems a little extreme. I hope she doesn't back down...she can counter with her long list of charges.

Paloma or Juanjo should tell Aurora about the cameras.

Cris gave Rob a warning last week but i guess he was only thinking of business. Rob landing in the hospital a few days later after a fight with his daughter should make him suspicious. Guess Rob didn't mention he was pressing charges against her.

Juanita, thanks for clarifying the statement from Wilmer's friend. Wilmer's trying to speak from the grave, but where is the tablet and money?

Spanish Student
 

Sangre
Leo was number 1 on the soccer list and Rafa number 6. Leo turned down his place so that Rafa would move to the 5th position and get the scholarship.
I can't wait until the truth about Roberto comes to light!
Bella
 

Sangre

thanks Bella!

Juanita, I guess I glossed over this, Leo actually quit the team moving Rafa into the five slot, but no one knows that except he discussed it with Alexis who thought it was a bit extreme, Leo was insistent, soccer represents everything he is fighting.

Spanish Student, knowing about the cameras at this point may not be much help, since they never showed Rob recording anything.

 

Sangre

oh wait, the outside cameras were recording, because Rob checked them when Wilmer started showing up.

 

Sangre

Thanks very much, Bella and deb,for explaining the soccer situation with Leo and Rafa.
I understood part of the conversation between Alexis and Leo, but clearly I missed a key part.
 

Sangre,

Deb,are the cameras not recording? I don't know the recording capabilities of the camera but i figured even if it only retained 24 hours there was sufficient abuse by Rob during that time. And soon as the others tell Aurora about it, she'll understand how Rob used it to his advantage.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre

Spanish Student, in case you missed my post just above, when Wilmer was lurking around Rob checked the recordings, and it's all the same system, so they must be, hope they still have the time Rob dragged Wilmer out of his trunk and into the kitchen for a heart to heart.

 

Sangre

Deb, that's exactly what I was thinking. Those camera recordings could put him away for life.

Spanish Student
 

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