Thursday, March 22, 2018

Papa A Toda Madre #47: If You Can't Trust Your "Bro", Who Can You Trust?

Or A Snake in the Grass is Revealed

Rodrigo walks into Neron’s shop and demands to know why Pablo hid the fact that he was in Mexico illegally. Pablo looks worried and very contrite and Neron tries to argue that Pablo is a very good man, but Rodrigo laughs at the fact that they tried to trick him earlier, by acting like a mute and then pretending the funny words Pablo used were form another part of Mexico. Either way, he warns them that Jorge is looking into the deportation process for illegals and he assumed it was because of him. Neron begs Rodrigo to reconsider, and not arrest Pablo, but Rodrigo makes it clear that he’s not there to arrest him because he’s a hard-working man, not a criminal. Neron and Pablo thank him and they all shake hands with a smile. Rodrigo leaves them with one final warning: if someone else reports Pablo, there will be nothing he could do for him them. Pablo and Neron look even more worried.

At Logatoys, Fabian gives Mauricio the DNA results for Anifer and Mauricio thanks him. Mauricio then asks about Falcon, because they are launching the toy production tomorrow, but Fabian reiterates that he has disappeared. He then assures Mauricio that he can trust him, and hopes he has no problems with the new toy production. Mauricio hopes so too and Fabian leaves as Mauricio thinks back to when Anifer gave Fabian her eaten lollipop as a DNA sample and took it too the lab to be analyzed. Mauricio now looks more suspicious of Fabian’s actions.

In her office, Veronica finishes a call as Tina walks in to tell her about her upcoming meetings and appointments and then reminds her that the higher ups need her answer about the promotion soon. Veronica sighs heavily as she’s still deciding.

On the street and behind a car, Renee and Rafael wait for Angel to come outside his house so they can talk to him. Rafael wonders if they will recognize him, as the picture they have is 30 years old, and Renee is sure she will. Just then, Angel walks outside, and Renee recognizes him immediately. She approaches him and confirms that he is Angel before introducing herself as Renee, the daughter of Catalina, and he is her father. Angel shakes his head and states that it is impossible that he is her father.

Mauricio looks over the DNA results and highlights the portion that confirms Mauricio’s paternity. Jorge then walks in looking for said results (Mauricio calls him “Jose” but he knows his real name) as Gladys walks in right after and hands Mauricio an envelope before complaining about the long hours and little pay. She leaves in a huff and Jorge assures Mauricio that he is happy with his pay, but his name is, once again, Jorge, not Geronimo or Jose. Jorge then leaves as well, and Mauricio opens the envelope Gladys gave him to reveal a second DNA test, which states that he is not Anifer’s father. Mauricio is shocked.


Renee is confused that about the relationship between Angel and Catalina, as he wrote her all those love letters, and Angel explains that his love was plutonic as he loved her very much, but she never accepted him, and nothing ever happened between them; they weren’t even boyfriends. Renee is now even more confused as Angel explains that he and Catalina were only co-workers and she always told him that she would love to be in love with him, but it was not meant to be. Renee considers this as Angel tells her that the heart wants what it wants.

Mauricio can’t believe the DNA lab could make such a giant mistake. He highlights both results and remembers when Fabian assured him that he could trust him. He then remembers when Fabian suggested doing a DNA test in the first place. He then remembers when Fabian offered to get a loan for the company, because he loves him, just like a brother. Mauricio slowly comes to realize that everything that has gone wrong in his life lately has Fabian’s fingerprints all over it. He hopes that Fabian can offer a logical explanation (doubt it!)

At school, Baldo can’t believe Lili would fall for Pablo and agrees with Jorge that he is beneath her. Lili can’t believe he is a racist, just like their father, and Baldo reminds her that he will be keeping a close eye on her, as part of her punishment. Baldo then states that Pablo has disappeared, as expected, and Lili chides him for being a racist as their mother always taught them be good with everyone. Baldo demands she stop taking about it because her punishment is final, and she won’t see Pablo again; he assures her she will find someone new, but Lili doubts it and storms off.

Renee goes to a restaurant with Angel and he explains that, after Catalina rejected him for so long, he quit Logatoys and moved far away. He only found out that she was pregnant later, when he came back, and he found out she was in love with another man then and this is why she never accepted him. Angel assumes this man was Renee’s father, but he can’t offer anymore details as Catalina never shared them with anyone. He confirms that she was also always alone, so no one ever saw her father. Renee is disappointed that her mother lied to her all her life, but Angel cheers her up by stating that he always hoped Catalina would love him and he would love to be her father but isn’t Renee thanks him and Angel then leaves as his current wife is very jealous. He pays the pill and bids her goodbye as Rafael watches from afar. Renee looks sadder than before.

Mauricio comes out of his office to find Jorge waiting for the DNA results. He asks Mauricio for them, but Mauricio promises to hand them over later. He then walks off, as he has to go resolve some things, as Jorge and Gladys wonder what he is talking about. Gladys assumes Mauricio has lost his marbles and Jorge is so bitter that he can’t see what has happened (Guys, Barbara Torres makes so much out of so little. Love her!). Jorge considers this but leaves after a moment.

At home, Tono irons closes and thinks about how he went from a renowned professional to full time slave. He then places the iron on a pair of jeans he’s ironing and goes to the kitchen to look for food. He finds it empty and then calls Veronica to tell her he is going to the supermarket but Tina answers, much to Tono’s surprise. He can’t believe how solidarity they are with Veronica, as they are always answering her phone, and Tina confirms they are like a family. She then explains that Veronica is in a meeting with the big wigs about the new office and some such thing. Tono can’t believe Veronica accepted the new job and hangs up before running to the living room because his jeans are burning from the hot iron. He removes the iron but burns himself in the process and curses his luck.

Mauricio goes to the DNA lab that performed the second test and confirms that DNA results are 99% correct but there is a margin for error. The doctor offers to look it over, and puts on his good glasses, before telling Mauricio that he understands the problem: he is the father and doesn’t want to accept the responsibility. On the contrary, Mauricio wants to accept the responsibility, but the tests say Anifer isn’t his. The doctor nods and Mauricio wonders if there has been some error. The doctor states that it is impossible that Anifer is his. Mauricio cringes at the thought.

Anifer looks at a picture of her mother at home and wonders why she lied about everything and didn’t even leave a picture of her real father. Rafael comes out with a tea and some food for Renee and offers his support. She can’t believe all the things she has found out since she tried to transfer the ownership of her mother’s home. Rafael asks if she’s going to continue to investigate her real father’s identity or leave everything as is. Renee can only sigh.

Kika is back in her suite, talking to Charytin, about how much she misses Miami and her beloved Calle 8. Charytin tells her to find a way, as she has plenty of resources, but Kika explains that she can’t find her passport and the thing with Trump and Venezuela has made it difficult for her to fly without one. She can’t believe how bad things have gotten for her and Charytin suggests she do a special program for her channel and make better use of her time in Mexico. Kika smiles, because she has the perfect fan in mind to do a show with, so she can stick it to the fan’s father. Charytin wonders if she’s talking about Mauricio but Kika tells her that it’s someone worse, if she can believe it.

The Turrubiantes kids walk home from school and Baldo asks Valentina to prepare some food for him. Valentina chides him for being so lazy, because she always has to prepare the food, and Baldo suggests he tell Jorge how she feels since he asked her to do it. Pablo approaches them then and Baldo insults him before Lili pushes him into the house. Samuel asks Valentina if she knows what is going on, but Valentina would rather not get into it and walks inside with Samuel in tow. Once alone, Lili quickly looks in the bushes and finds the note Pablo left for her. As Baldo screams for her to go inside the house, Lili stuffs the note in her back pack as Pablo walks away.

Renee tells Rafael and Rodrigo that she hopes to have the house in her name soon, so she can sell it to them, but Rodrigo is more worried about her, since she’s going to the US for her master’s degree and asks how long she will delay her trip. Renee assumes it will be around 2 months but hopes the transfer and sale of the property doesn’t take that long. Rafael wonders if she has any other economic help, besides the sale, and Renee explains that she also got a scholarship from a company Sonia suggested. She originally rejected it but, when Logatoys removed their offer, she had to reconsider. After a tense moment, Rodrigo whispers something to Rafael and Rafael tells Renee that, they were wondering if she would be able to donate an ovum to them, so they could have a child. Renee is speechless.

Lili walks into her bathroom with her back pack and reads Pablo’s note which states that he can’t wait any longer and is crossing the border soon. He asks if she is willing to come with him and Lili writes back that she is before folding up the note and smiling.

Rafael and Rodrigo hoped Renee could be their surrogate and lend them her uterus but she is leaving soon and so they propose she donate an ovum and they will find a surrogate on their own. Rodrigo makes it clear that this offer is made out of respect for her and because of how much they love and care for her. Renee smiles and Rafael states that, with her help, they can become fathers. She asks them for some time to think it over though, as it’s a lot to process in a short amount of time. The guys are more than happy to oblige and they all agree to talk it over later.

Mauricio arrives at the address where the first DNA tests were performed and asks the guard if he is at the right place. The guard confirms he is but there was never a DNA lab at this address, and he’s worked there for 15 years. Mauricio is floored.

Tono arrives at Veronica’s job and storms into Veronica’s meeting. He finds her at the head of the table and demands to know what she is hiding and making decisions behind his back. He also wants to know why she makes him iron so much and shows her the burn on his hand as Veronica apologizes to her co-workers and grabs Tono to check if he’s drunk. Tono is not and demands to know how he is going to get used to living in Texas. Veronica screams that he is not going to live in Texas because she just rejected her boss’s offer. Tono smiles but Veronica is furious.

Mauricio arrives at the pediatric clinic with the address of the DNA lab and confirms that they don’t perform DNA tests there and never have. Mauricio is shocked, and the receptionist asks if he’s okay. Mauricio shakes his head and admits that he’s never felt worse in his life.

Tono apologizes to the whole table of executives as Veronica tells him that they will talk later, and he should go home. Her boss suggests she leave them alone, so they can talk and they all walk out. Once alone with Tono, veronica grabs him and demands to know what the hell is wrong with him that he felt the need to storm into her meeting and tell everyone their problems. Tono frees himself and tells her that she is the one who’s changed and continues to lie about her hair and the truck. Veronica reminds him that he is the only liar because she only wanted to surprise him with hair and the truck while he was kissing other women. Tono thinks she should thank him for being honest and Veronica sarcastically retorts that she should be happy that he broke his bro code and tell her the truth and Tono looks angry. Veronica warns him that she can read his thoughts and Tono wonders if she knows what he’s thinking at this exact moment. They stare at each other then, furious.

Mauricio picks up Anifer from school and she kisses him on the cheek before asking why he’s so serious. Mauricio explains that he has a lot on his mind before asking how her project is going. Anifer tells him that she’s ready for tomorrow and then asks about his toy production. Mauricio explains that it’s ready to launch tomorrow and he is planning a small celebration. He then tells her that she is his honored guest and Anifer is happy to see her design in action. Mauricio is happy she is smiling but Anifer then grows serious and asks if she can see her mouth. Mauricio promises to take her in the weekend and then asks her to sit back as they are going home. Anifer gives him another kiss, as Mauricio smiles, and obliges.

Tono claims that it’s Veronica’s fault that things are so bad as she insisted they switch roles, but Veronica reminds him that she got a job first and they agreed she should take it. She then reveals that she rejected the new job offer, for him, but he can’t even appreciate it. Tono thinks she should move so they can take a break, and, after a moment, Veronica agrees that a break may be the best thing for them. Tono can’t believe she wants to get divorce but Veronica is confused as she never said divorce. Tono then realizes he forgot the kids and kisses Veronica goodbye so he can go get them. He catches himself and looks at Veronica before leaving, screaming that they will continue their fight at home.

As they have dinner in silence, Anifer asks Mauricio and Renee what is wrong that they are all quiet. She asks Mauricio why he looks so serious and Renee why she hasn’t said anything about her father. Mauricio is shocked to hear about this and Renee provides some details, namely, the fact that her father wasn’t who she thought he was. Anifer hopes she finds her father and gets to know him, as she would like Renee to have a father like her, but Renee reiterates that things aren’t always easy. Mauricio nods and suggests they “leave things as they are” while looking at Renee and she tells to be quiet so they an eat. Anifer looks just as confused as when she first started talking.

Tono brings his children home and asks them about their homework assignments; Tina and Ernesto are done, and Fidel has no homework. Veronica then calls him to confirm he picked up the kids and to confirm she will be working late. Tono thanks her and hangs up.

Kika goes to visit Valentina to tell her the good news: she wants to do a show with her. Valentina is ecstatic and tries to hug Kika but Kika holds her back as her dress is very expensive and wrinkles easily. Samuel overhears but doesn’t think Jorge will let Valentina do the show though Kika thinks he should butt out. Samuel reminds him that Jorge doesn’t want her close to them but Kika could care less and asks Valentina if they can do the show in her house. Valentina agrees but asks her siblings not to tell Jorge anything. They prefer not to have trouble with Jorge, but Valentina threatens to cut off their food supply and they all agree to be quiet. Kika, however, can’t understand how Jorge has turned Valentina into a submissive woman, who cares for such a lazy group of people, and Valentina silently nods.

Later, Veronica is walking on the sidewalk when Tono calls to ask if she can pick up some dog food for Rola and not any food, the special dog food Rafael told them. Veronica says she will and then hangs up.

Jorge comes back to Mauricio’s office, to ask for the DNA tests again, and Mauricio explains that he will have them in a few fays as he got the wrong results. Jorge reminds him that the tests will be very important for Anifer’s name change and then walks out as Fabian walks in and asks Mauricio why he’s so down. Mauricio looks pissed as all hell.

Jorge goes into his office and takes a small break before checking on his kids via the secret camera he installed. He is shocked to see Kika in his living room, “a demon dressed in designer closing.”

Mauricio asks Fabian about the location of Maria’s burial site, so he can take Anifer, though Fabian doesn’t think that’s a good idea. He promises to send him a detailed report either way, and Mauricio looks at him. Fabian asks him what the problem is, as he looks so worried, and Mauricio explains that he’s worried about the upcoming toy production. Fabian slowly nods and then tells Mauricio that he’s been monitoring Falcon, lest he show up when the toy production is underway and mess everything but hasn’t been able to locate him. Mauricio nods now and Fabian continues to wonder what his issue is. Mauricio admits that he’s excited about the new phase of the company and wonders if Fabian remembers how long they’ve been friends. Fabian thinks it has been for all their lives and Mauricio reminds him that he was his only family member before Anifer appeared. Fabian reminds him that it’s the same for him but wonders why Mauricio is taking a trip down memory lane. Mauricio admits that he was thinking about all things he’s always asking him to do, things he should take care of personally, like burying Maria. Fabian smiles and tells him not to worry about it before patting Mauricio on the back and leaving. Once alone, Mauricio’s fake smile melts as he considers the sort of snake he’s had in his home this entire time…


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Mr AAA, thank you for another fine and speedy recap! They are always fun to read.

A lot of stuff to chew on in this capítulo, but the one that impressed me most was the Rod and Rafa couple asking Renee to donate an egg. Wow! It must be very flattering, but also troubling. The offspring would get a bit more than half his/her DNA from her, just as if she had a child in the usual way. Yet would not be hers, and she would have no real say in his/her upbringing even though she knows the guys are extremely decent people.

I want to see where this goes.

Lots of other good stuff in this episode, but this really made me think.

It's a slight annoyance that there will be no show Friday, but it's for a good cause and it will give our recovering Cynthia a break. I hope all is going well with you, Cynthia.
 

Thank you, Alfredo, for another wonderful recap.

Andy, ITA about R and R and the egg request. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out for the reasons you listed.

At least Rafael won’t be reporting Pablo to immigration.

I am so happy that Mauricio is finally realizing there is a major problem with Fabián.
 

Thank you , ALfredo, for yet another fast and fantastic recap.

Well, I thought that R and R would ask REnee to be their surrogate, but I never guessed that these neighbors would want to borrow some eggs. I have noticed that RAfe seems to adore REnee, so it is no wonder that he would choose her to be the mother of their child. She is pretty, smart, kind. Great genes. However, with all the philosophical issues, I could not do it.

More later....stuff to do. Later, gators.
 

Alfredooooo thanks on this Hoppy Friday.

R & R Egg? Not Easter yet FF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF
Neron and Flor how thrilling. Never seen a Spring/Fall coupling here in FloriDuh NOT FF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF
Vero vs Tono / Tono vs Vero FF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF
Jorge is only interesting when Mauricio is calling him not his name.

There is plenty of interesting material with Renee and her NOT Father and lying Mother, Mauricio and Anifer and Fabian than to clutter this show up with the sweet things who want to circumvent Nature and A squabbling married couple.

If the boys want a baby, hey, they are welcome to try. If successful, good for them, but don't bring in science and technology to cause something to happen which nature never intended. IT NEVER WORKS FOR THE BEST ! Ever hear of unintended consequences? Just adopt one. There...that's my PSA.

How heartbreaking for Mau to discover that Anifer is not his bio daughter. This should have nothing to do with his love for her, but the sad fact is that an actual Father may be lurking around the corner somewhere.

Now our poor Mauricio has discovered not only that Anifer is not his, but that his life long 'Friend' is stabbing him in the back and anything but a friend. For the first time we are seeing poor Mau looking genuinely pensive and sad at the realization that a LOT of things are not what he had thought.

On the bright side, he is actually doing something. Unlike most of the TNs we have watched, where all these revelations would have necessitated a nice long NAP, Mauricio is running around investigating and THINKING.

I hopeo he plays his cards close to his vest and does not let Fabian see that he has figured him out while he compiles the hard evidence he needs to maybe put him in jail or at the very least give him an old fashioned DF style ass kicking.

I have to wonder how much money Fabian has stolen and how much of it is still unspent. Hiring Falcon and Co. could not be cheap, and as far as we know, LogaToys is Fabian's only source of capital.

So now almost everything in Mauricio's universe is suspect, especially the Juan Perez or whatever his name is who led them to Maria Cruz's site of demise.

And Miss Renee, dead people can't answer a lot of questions can they? She has no clue who her Daddy is, her Mom is dead, and as far as she knows she has no siblings, she may as well stop spinning her wheels and get on with her life, if we are to believe the fellow she talked to who swore he was not her Dad. And he appeared to be a really nice sincere man who felt for Renee and admitted to knowing her Mom. Next.
 

Thank you, Alfredo.

Tough day for Mau. His daughter is not his daughter. His bro is not his bro. At least he is learning the truth, which is almost always a good thing. Speaking of telling the truth, should he tell Anifer that she is not actually his daughter? I am sure he will not.

Because Renée's house on paper belongs to Fabian's father, I have a theory that her father is Fabian's father.

I find it unrealistic that Baldo would be so rude to Pablo. Pablo is older and bigger. Imagine high school freshman getting in the face of a high school senior. Crazy. Sure recipe of getting put in his place.
 

Oh Gawd Lucio I'd bet you are right. And it makes perfect TNlandia sense, the first and only woman Mauricio has truly Luuuurved could turn out to be his worst enemy's sister.
Ouch Stay tuned...................
 

Lucio...I was thinking the same as soon as we found out that Fabian's father was the owner of the house!

Rulli did an excellent job of showing his feelings with just his facial expressions. I will be waiting for him to tell Fab "Come at me, Bro!"

I am so tired of Kika's shrill annoying baby talk. I would !ike to hear her actual grownup voice.

I saw the actress who plays Cookie on Empire with the blonde hair and two inches of dark roots, so I guess it is a thing.

 

Susy
Kika was one of the stewardesses in La Piloto. In it she had a normal voice and just looked like any other leggy slim young woman.
 

Kirby, excellent point about Mauricio actually THINKING. That is always one of my complaints about the traditional novelas: the villains are incredibly astute, think, plan and never miss an opportunity to act in a timely manner while the protagonists just lollygag around completely confused about what is going on, not thinking, not wanting to believe what they see and never quite getting up enough energy to take action before it is too late.

Lucio, I think Pablo feels he can be rude to Pablo because he sees him as being from a lower class and out of his “place” being interested in his sister.
 

So sad Mauricio isn't Anifer's father, and just as he was getting into the role. All we need now is Maria to come back to life and take her away from him. If Fabian is the father, how cruel of him to use his daughter as a pawn. Anifer was used to prevent Mauricio from selling the factory earlier in the story.

Did not like that Tono embarrassed Vero that way in the office, but didn't her assistant confirm to him that she took the offer? At least they kind of started the talk.

I wonder if Rene will donate her egg. As much as it would fulfill Rafael and Rodrigo's dream, why is it so hard to adopt? What would it be like for Rene to know that she's biologically the mother of a child she won't be able to raise, when she grew up not knowing who her father was?

I thought it was funny when Jorge freaked out seeing Kika in his living room, calling her the demon in style. Why is it that all household matters befell solely on Valentina, and Lili gets away mostly doing nothing?

I don't think it's unrealistic for Baldo to dislike Pablo. He's trying to protect his sister. Also discrimination is prevalent there against indigenous looking people. To top it off he's Guatemalan. They may all be Hispanic, but they discriminate amongst themselves too.

Maia
 

The R&R Egg Hunt especially sticks in my craw. Anyone and everyone is free to disagree, but I see it as completely selfish. You are going to bring a child into life under those circumstances simply because you WANT one? If you're bored go buy a drone or motorcycle. Kids are unforgiving. I'm not talking about the egg kid, but his classmates for a decade. Kids today are more demanding of conformity than they were years ago. Just because you want a kid is not a good enough reason. Life does not bestow every blessing available to mankind on every living creature. If you were born that way, so to speak, then maybe you were not born to have kids. A child will go through life explaining how he/she came into this world or live a life of secrecy.

BTW, one of the fellows should have knocked Tono out and sent him home in a van.
 

Good Morning, All! Tahnks Mr. AAA for another riveting recap. Great comments and the insight is amazing interest and in line with my own thoughts.

I too think Rene's father is Noel Carvajal's (Fabian's father); and Susy, I suspected since she found out he owned the house too!

Kirby, "Now our poor Mauricio has discovered not only that Anifer is not his, but that his life long 'Friend' is stabbing him in the back and anything but a friend. For the first time we are seeing poor Mau looking genuinely pensive and sad at the realization that a LOT of things are not what he had thought." Mau finding out tht ANifer was not his daughter was so sad...he tried so hard to prove that she was, only to find out that his "bro" made up the whole thing. So now that we know this, surely Maria has to be alive. Now how long will it be before she surfaces and why has she stayed away for so long? And "I hopeo he plays his cards close to his vest and does not let Fabian see that he has figured him out while he compiles the hard evidence he needs to maybe put him in jail or at the very least give him an old fashioned DF style ass kicking." Mau's brain activity is increasing as his heart grows fonder of Anifer and Renee. These two young ladies have had a very positive impact on his life. I do hope that Anifer remains close to Mau even though he isn't her father. I dread seeing Anifer when she finds out he isn't her father.

About the egg thin...Andy "The offspring would get a bit more than half his/her DNA from her, just as if she had a child in the usual way. Yet would not be hers, and she would have no real say in his/her upbringing even though she knows the guys are extremely decent people." So very true! Wyy wouldn't R&R asks a relative to donate the egg...at least they would have some of the family genes? and Susy, I agree, I wouldn't be able to do it either.

Maia, "Did not like that Tono embarrassed Vero that way in the office, but didn't her assistant confirm to him that she took the offer? At least they kind of started the talk." I didn't like it Tono storming in either...that was totally childish and uncalled for. Tina, the secretary didn't really confirm that Vero had accepted the job. All she said was that Vero was busy making plans for a new office and that was when Tono jumped to the conclusion that Vero accepted the job.

Maia, Fabian is most likely Anifer's father. I'm sure he is the one who has been making copies of the "M" necklace and pretending to be Mauricio. He probably did the same thing to Maria.

 

Tono interrupting the meeting was awful. I was starting to feel sorry for him, but he lost a lot of points with me by acting like a petulant little boy. Time to grow up ,Peter Pan. If you cannot get a job and buy the bread and your wife can, the two of you have to work things out because you have three kids and a dog to provide for. One has to Go with the flow and ride with the tide.
 

Kirby, "Life does not bestow every blessing available to mankind on every living creature. If you were born that way, so to speak, then maybe you were not born to have kids. A child will go through life explaining how he/she came into this world or live a life of secrecy." You are a wise man, well-stated. There are so many who wished to have children, but circumstances precluded it. We must accept what life and God brings us..or doesn't bring us. For everything, there is a reason...
 

Kirby, I got a giggle out of "R & R Egg Hunt" as I am preparing for ours which is usually in our backyard. ..... But this year it won't be unless the sun melts the snow. I also agree that adoption might be a better alternative. I have noticed that Rafe seems to adore Renee and is very solicitous toward her, and I wonder if he has been scoping her out as baby mama all along!

 

Thanks, Alfredo. Simply superb.

What a cruel thing to do to Mauricio. Of course he'll continue loving Anifer as a father, but where is the bio dad?

It's one thing to "host" an embryo to birth, where the egg and sperm come from elsewhere. This is not your bio-baby, but a traveler in your body. But to have your own egg fertilized and then turn the baby over to another, even if you have visiting rights, is like putting your baby up for adoption. No way will Renee do this. I actually find it offensive that Rafael and Rodrigo would ask her this. They are clearly putting their needs above hers. Hombres, adopt. The child-parent bond is just as tight. Lots of adopted folks in my family.
 

Niecie, one of my best friends adopted a baby boy. On more than one occasion, I have said how much he resembles her and she has to remind me that he is not her biological child ! She gave birth two years later to a girl. I see no difference in the way she relates to them. My cousin adopted two boys from Korea, and another cousin adopted a girl from China. In every way , they are their parent's children.
 

Thanks Alfredo!!!!

Yeah I don't think that Rafa and Rod have really thought the egg thing through. But I had a gay male friend ask me if I would consider donating an egg and I told him I couldn't do it. I couldn't have a bio child out there and not be with me. I think some women can be okay with it. They eventually bought an anonymous donor egg and found a friend to be the surrogate. Worked out well. I could see Renee carrying a child not hers for them.

I really don't like how Baldo is treating his twin sister. I'm really disliking all of the Jorge men.

Mau not being Ani's bio father is heart breaking. So who is the bio dad? If it was Fab he wouldn't have to fake dna results. He would have just used his own dna in Mau's place.
 

Carvivle, yes , I thought R & R would ask Renee to be their surrogate and that she might agree because she seems to have gotten so c!ose to him. I often wonder about the guys who donate to sperm banks. Do they ever wonder about their minimes walking about?
 

WHEW !
 

"Do they ever wonder about their minimes walking about?"

Yeah me too. I just have to think we are more advanced than say, a tomato plant, with our seeds distributed about like the after effects of a great BLT and a beer.
 

Kirby: From the words of the late POTUS Ronald Wilson Reagan: "Trust but Verify!"


 

Good One Steve
 

Alfredo, my apologies for being late - work has been taking up all my time and more.

"The doctor states that it is impossible that Anifer is his. Mauricio cringes at the thought". Heartbreaking.

"(Mauricio calls him “Jose” but he knows his real name)". Initally annoyed that he did that (uncharacteristic for Mau), I forgive him and he had a very, very, bad day.

“Kika smiles, because she has the perfect fan in mind to do a show with, so she can stick it to the fan’s father”. Everybody hates Jorge. Sigh.

Yes, as we feared, it seems likely Fabian and Renee are half sibs.

My heart goes out to Mau. But Anifer loves him now. A parent is a mother or father from the heart and soul. Biology is just one component - the largest is love.

I am going to enjoy Kika and Jorge's little confrontation!

What a smart group this is. Thank you for your insights and clarity.

Alfredo, thank you so very much.

Diana
 

Hi, Diana, hopeo that work lets up a bit for you.

I was trying to figure out which hombre I could stand living with if I had to pick one...not inc!uding Maury. It would have to be Rafe or\and Rod.
 

Carvivlie, yes! Baldo acts like he is Lili’s parent. What gives him the right? Why should she pay attention? Just for that I hope she gives them a run for their money

R and R should adopt. Plenty of parentless children out there.

Susanlynn, I sure agree that R and R are the best of the lot of men out there.


 

dIANA, ""(Mauricio calls him “Jose” but he knows his real name)". Initally annoyed that he did that (uncharacteristic for Mau), I forgive him and he had a very, very, bad day" I agree that Mau had a very bad day, but it seems Mau has known Jorge's name all along and is just changing his name purposefully...to annoy him?? Does Mau like needling Jorge that way>
 

Maia, Rgv Chick, "Fabian is most likely Anifer's father. I'm sure he is the one who has been making copies of the "M" necklace and pretending to be Mauricio. He probably did the same thing to Maria" - If Fabian is Anifer's father and Renée's half-brother, then Renée is Anifer's aunt. How interesting would that be!
 

RGV thanks for clarifying about Vero's assistant. I thought it looked like Tina was purposefully making Tono mad. I wonder why Vero never put a stop to the obnoxious childish side of him before. I really thought she was actually going to tell him that he didn't have to worry about being uprooted because he wouldn't be joining the family in the states.

As for what gives Baldo the right to boss his sister around, it's patriarchy. After Jorge he's the oldest male in the household, so he's in charge. In the same episode he also tells Valentina to cook his food, and to take her complaints about it to Jorge. The system benefits him, so he doesn’t care about how the girls feel.

I hadn't thought about Rene being Anifer's aunt. If none of the parents are alive at the end of the novela, she can claim the child. And be with Mauricio.

Maia

 

Lucio, “then Renee is Anifer’s aunt” that’s right! that would really be interesting and good for Anifer!
 

Yes, Maia, it is the patriarchy which is alive and well (even here in the good old USA) and that is why women need to defy it and fight it at every turn. : )
 

Do you really suppose nobody who's gay is reading all this judgmental crap about what kind of behavior you straight people do and don't approve of? That's some patriarchal bullshit right there.
 

Also, Baldo was the man of the house growing up in a home with his mother and sister. I hopeo that he marries a strong woman who does not let him boss her about.
 

Wow! Lots of interesting and insightful comments!

I agree that the best thing for everybody would be for R&R to adopt. It would solve their problem and also the plight of a kid with no family. We have had several adoptions in my extended family and everyone has benefitted.

But to be fair to R&R, especially Rafa who started the idea of a "child of their own", I suppose it is only natural to want to pass along your genes. I'm not sure that having children is ever a 100% selfless act.

Still, good adoptions do make the world a better place, and make for very good karma.

:-)
 

BTW, my thanks to whoever started using "R&R" for our gay couple. I am often tempted to kid about them in my comments, which I think I both should and should not do.

If we accept the guys and their lifestyle then we should be dumping on them as much as we do with anybody else. They are the only ones in this TN, other than the late Carola, who have not had some scorn heaped on them in a fun way.

But they are so goody goody two shoes, it's not easy. I'll look for a chance to say something nasty about them when I can to make them feel at home.

:-)
 

OK Anone w2:27 I will bite:
"all this judgmental crap about what kind of behavior you straight people do and don't approve of?"

Like exactly what? Give me ONE instance, just one. Nobody, not even ME has attacked the R&R boys for their lifestyle choice. Take your self righteous bullshit somewhere else and pound sand. The people here are about as non judgmental as any people anywhere. But being Lesbian, Gay, Transgender, Bisexual or whatever does not give you a free pass to do dumb things which straight people would be called on the carpet for. Bring it.
 

But think, if Renee winds up being Anifer's aunt (GOOD)
Fabian is her Daddy (Bad Bad Bad)

And if that IS the case, what did Fabian do with her MOM?

So is the consensus that Fabian had been going around telling these women that HE was Mauricio, the owner of LogaToys and handing out the M necklaces? That is what I sort of got.
 

If the boys want a baby, hey, they are welcome to try. If successful, good for them, but don't bring in science and technology to cause something to happen which nature never intended. IT NEVER WORKS FOR THE BEST ! Ever hear of unintended consequences? Just adopt one. There...that's my PSA.

The R&R Egg Hunt especially sticks in my craw. Anyone and everyone is free to disagree, but I see it as completely selfish. You are going to bring a child into life under those circumstances simply because you WANT one? If you're bored go buy a drone or motorcycle. Kids are unforgiving. I'm not talking about the egg kid, but his classmates for a decade. Kids today are more demanding of conformity than they were years ago. Just because you want a kid is not a good enough reason. Life does not bestow every blessing available to mankind on every living creature. If you were born that way, so to speak, then maybe you were not born to have kids. A child will go through life explaining how he/she came into this world or live a life of secrecy.

You are a wise man, well-stated. There are so many who wished to have children, but circumstances precluded it. We must accept what life and God brings us..or doesn't bring us. For everything, there is a reason...

I actually find it offensive that Rafael and Rodrigo would ask her this. They are clearly putting their needs above hers. Hombres, adopt. The child-parent bond is just as tight. Lots of adopted folks in my family.

R and R should adopt. Plenty of parentless children out there.

I agree that the best thing for everybody would be for R&R to adopt.

If we accept the guys and their lifestyle then we should be dumping on them as much as we do with anybody else.


 

Hmmm...yes, perhaps Fab has been passing himself off as Maury and also passing out those necklaces. If FAb is Ani's biological dad , Ani evidently never meet him. I think Maria is alive. I guess Fab grabbed Ani to stop the wedding to the rich girl who was going to give Maury the money to save Logotoys because Fab's goal is to ruin Maury. Was Maria a willing participant?
 

Susy, Maaaaaannnn this is getting complicated. I don't want to THINK that much. It was fun and touching seeing Ani'N Ren changing Mau for the better, but I now feel like I'm in a Calculus refresher course.

If all this finagling on Fabian's part is just simply to muck up Logatoys, what did Mauricio do to him? They have had one of those locker room comparos that boys always have and Mau embarrassed him time and again?

Get over it. If Ani is yours it must actually work !

:-)
 

Of course, if Mauricio had paid attention in high school Biology class he would have known a few weeks ago, right after the blood test when Anifer had her accident, that he wasn't her father. A fake Mauricio, distributing M necklaces (I agree, probably Fabián), would explain why whoever María entrusted her child to would leave Anifer with the real Mauricio.
 

Late to the party but many thanks Alfredo. Got mixed up and thought the teleton was last night so wasn't even looking for a recap. Especially with March Madness going full tilt. Might have missed this altogether if Niece in Md. hadn't alerted me.

Most women find it hard to give up a baby that they had carried for 9 months. Especially a baby that was theirs in terms of their own genes. I know of one successful situation where the sister of an infertile woman carried a baby for her not once, but twice. But the genetic material came from the infertile sister and her husband. And it was "family".

For Renee, this does not sound possible. Even though she hasn't yet experienced the powerful bonding that goes on with the baby before birth, I just don't think that she could do it (were this a real life situation). And there have been difficult court cases where surrogates have sued to keep the baby after giving birth. So.... A very thorny question for a supposedly light-hearted comedy.

Thanks Alfredo. Always enjoy your recaps.
 

JudyB what you say makes a lot of sense. There is an undefined 'Something' there between Mother and child which we men and non Mothers readily acknowledge, but do not truly understand. But we have seen it, and not just in humans. Not being a real parent, I can't comment with authority on all this, but it looks like a solution of last resort, so to speak. But I really shouldn't care. Telebabies and Teletubbies and their NooNoo are just on TV, right?

I do want to see Mauricio set a trap for Faker Fabian. Then there is ole funny-talker. It sounds like she has not hung up her Mauricio spurs yet either. Poor guy, if he could just have one World War to fight at a time he might have a chance.
 

Judy....I think that Rafe and Renee are very close and that REnee would like to help him, but I agree that it would be impossible for her to give up her own biological child no matter how close she is to the person asking her to do it.
 

Just to summarize the thoughts of the patio peeps...

1. Renee is Fakian's half-sister
2. Fakian is impersonating Mauricio and dispensing "M" necklaces
3. Fakian is Anifer's father
4. Maria is alive

Questions to ponder...

1. Where is Maria and why is she staying away or is she being kept away?
2. What is Fakian's motive for wanting to destroy Mau?
3. Was that really Fakian who Falcon met with--the one whose face was never seen and wore a huge ring? OR does Fakian have an ally?
4. If Fabian is a fake, was his father's death faked too??

Feel free to add...





 

Rgv Chickie, you are scaring me now. If Mau is not Anifer's biological father, what legal claim does he have to raise her, whether Maria is alive or dead?

Somebody raised Anifer up until recently. Was it really Maria? And is/was Maria Anifer's mother?

Oh, so many questions! And Mau is such a dunce he never got much real info from Anifer in the first place. We now know that anything he learned through Fabian is, at least, suspect.

I was just last night telling someone I know who watches "Al otro lado del muro" that I couldn't watch something like that, too much suspense. I told her I like nice nice romantic comedies with nothing to get upset about. Ha!
 

Battin-Oh-Bando

:-)
 

Is anybody watching Might Aye singing in her little outfit on Teleton?
 

Is anybody watching Might Aye singing in her little outfit on Teleton?

Kirby, no, I was busy. Was she cute? Oops! I mean is she a good singer?
 

The MOST I have ever seen of her.
 

And she can kind of sing. Better than I could have done for sure.
 

:-)
 

Rgv Chick, good questions to ponder. I'm wondering:

- Is the woman Mauricio remembered as Maria the real Maria?
- So Maria bedded both Mauricio and Fabian?

If Fabian is Anifer's bio-dad, he sure is cold-hearted because he's never shown her affection or given her a sideway glance. Maybe a third guy is the father?


 

Ah! According to Wikipedia she is a popular singer as well as an extremely popular actress. Even had a Barbie doll modeled after her. If that isn't the pinnacle of success I don't know what is.
:-)

Definitely cute. And I definitely need to keep a special Wikipedia tab open.

:-)
 

Andy I saw her on screen and in a panic took a few shots of the TV with my PHONE, hence the picture quality.
Sorry.

My Tay as it was pronounced last night is an all around girl, a LOT like Renee. What's not to like?
 

Kirby..thank you for the photo of Maite. She is a living doll. Yes, I saw an interview with her a few years ago, and she is also a singer. We went to a concert last night (Jay and the AMericans and Brooklyn Bridge)and missed last night's show.


 

Niecie...or maybe he did not know he was her dad. Maybe REnee's mother told him it was the guy she told Renee was her dad! We shall have to wait and see. Is he herbdad....is he even still alive ?

Susanlynn, procrastinating and avoiding weekend chores
 

#whydonowwhatyoucanpostponetilltomorrow

My pleasure, although as I said, not up to my usual photographic standards, but she was NOT wearing any feathers.

#skintowin
#butfeathersbringoutmybestshots
 

Alfredo - Thank you for the recap! I actually got to watch this episode. Yay!!!

And thank you Jarifa and RgvChick for your recaps this week!

I love all the Crockpot Theories™ about Fabian, Renee's mother, etc. The writers have written quite a tangled story. We've all had our doubts about Fabian and it seems he really is not a good guy. What if the secret guy-in-charge is his father? Do we really know if Fab's dad is dead or alive?

RgvChick - how are your dogs doing? Did they all recover from their illness? I haven't had time to read all the comments this week, and barely read the recaps.

"2. What is Fakian's motive for wanting to destroy Mau?" This is what really intrigues me.
I've no doubt Fab orchestrated the dropping off of Anifer at Mau's wedding, too.

In that episode where Fab is dressed in his usual "look", but his pants were too short and he was sock-less, I knew he was not trustworthy.

When Mauricio is thinking, the look on his face reminds me of Derek Zoolander. lol




 

Niecie, you added some good questions. I do think that the Maria Mauricio remembers is the real Maria. What I find hard to believe is that the only memory he has of her is glancing at her a party...and then he goes and also remembers seeing Perez there; yet he couldn't remember Kika whom he had known for at least two years. I don't think Maria bedded Mauricio...but ya never know with him!

Doris, my dogs are back to eating normally, but still on antibiotics---gotta follow doctor's orders :-)

Fabian has always said his father is dead...but we know what a liar he has turned out to be!

I have one of my wild theories--

Assuming that Fabian's father is actually alive, could it be that he was in luuurve with Mau's mother and blames the factory for killing her? And that is why he would want to see it in ruins? Fabian's motive, IMO, is pure envy. I think he has always been jealous of Mau...and actually wants to be Mau. Maybe that is why Fabian is the one impersonating Mau and handing out the necklaces (which I'm pretty sure he is the one since he is closest to Mau and most likely had access to the necklace).

Kirby, I didn't see Maite in the telethon, but I saw her in the previews; she looked gorgeous.

 

" didn't see Maite in the telethon, but I saw her in the previews"

Worry not Andy and I have it covered.

Woofers B & J

:-)
 

Rgv Chick - I think your theory about Fab's father/Mau's mother, along with Fab's envy motive are Both excellent theories. Fab's envy is one of the seven deadly sins. This telenovela I'd chock full of PSAs and social commentary, do why not toss in one of the seven deadly sins? (pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth). Well, actually, they've tossed a few more into the mix! Have not seen the sloth or gluttony, but the rest? Oh yeah.
 

Plz ignore my tablet's ideas about what I was trying to say. Argh! Trying to watch hockey on TV + not proofreading = crazy sentences. 😛
 

Doris: I'm assuming Mauricio got "Maury'd" with "You're NOT the Baby Daddy!"
 

Happy Monday. Or...is there such a thing?
 

Sure Kirby. I love Mondays. I have an aerobics class I like and afterwards I go out to dinner with some fun folks from that class. Great break from cooking and cleaning at home. Like you latest eagle pic.
 

Good Morning! Yes, Kirby, there is a Happy Monday...for someone, somewhere. And the eagle is probably contemplating what new fish it will be eating soon :-P
 

JudyB, sounds like your Mondays are great fun...enjoy!
 

Thanks
 

Kirby...you read my mind. The first sentence under my senior photo in my high school yearbook..."Susy hates Mondays." I do not mind them so much now, and today is sunny and clear.

Let's see what happens in telenovelaville tonight.
 

Mndays are not too bad if:

You've bought a boat,
Won the lottery
Awaken with a beautiful stranger
Discovered your goat just had sextuplets
Otherwise,,,meh.....

In other words me too. :-)

Looking forward to tonight's episode of

Nunca es demasiado tarde para crecer
 

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