Thursday, May 17, 2018
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Mi familia perfecta, Al otro lado del muro, El señor de los cielos 6, & más: Week of May 14, 2018
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Mi familia perfecta
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—El señor de los cielos 6
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: familia, lado, señor6, telemundo
ah, it works, I can see Paula spraying everyone.
(I'm trying to see how many golf clubs are in Ernesto's bag, 3 or 4)
Sofia walks in on Eliza, yes, it's me, (I melt), the explanation as to why now, it's all about Alo, they both love her.
Jen is grooving on Steve's ring tone, or is she listening to the Max/Charlie talk, can't tell.
Deb: As far as Paula & Ernesto are concerned, it's Mission Accomplished: Alondra is now brainwashed for the foreseeable future :)
I see that Eliza & Sofia are reunited again.
Lorena gets kicked out of the FBI.
1.) Corina telling Daddy Casilas where Castillo is & giving him all the info.
2.) Tattoo Thug & Posse catch up with Zuleta.
3.) BPN & Jaime got uppity with Ritula, who obviously doesn't want anything to do with BPN.
4.) Daddy Casilas playing video games with the little kids.
5.) Karishi & what's her face making out.
6.) El Capo fails AGAIN ROFLOLZ.
deb, I too wondered whether J-Lowest was listening to the conversation between Max and Charlie or just Steve's ringtone playing loudly in her brain. I suspect that the ringtone drowned out the conversation.
And I too was very relieved that Sofía finally came to see Eliza and explain. It's good that both of them are worried about Alondra. Perhaps they can somehow ferret out the truth. I was heartsick seeing what a puppet Alo has become because of the drug. Ernesto, of course, is delighted in the change in Alo (not realizing that it's the result of her being drugged). It's scary that scopolamine can work so quickly and easily.
I liked the scene between Max and Karina and Tomás. I especially liked the fact that Karina said she thought Tomás was right, that Max had done great damage to the family, but she also made it clear that she's glad Max came back and she doesn't want to lose him again.
Eliza tells poor Andrés that she misses Max and still loves him. If I thought Eliza was really going to wind up with Max at the end, I'd be unhappy, but I remain convinced that Max won't make it alive to the end.
Ernesto asks Paula what the difference is between Cummings and himself [my answer: Ernesto speaks better Spanish]. Not content with my answer, he then proceeds to offer his own. I think he truly believes what he says about looking upon "the business" as a means, not an end, and that he has more noble goals in mind for Mexico. My guess is that he may not be alive at the end, either. I'm just praying that Telemundo doesn't have a season 2 in mind. Arrgh. Barf.
Juanita: Knowing Telemundo, they might very well bring it back for a 2nd Season & turn this into a Super Series.
1.) Eliza is a JACKASS (sorry for the language, but I'm perplexed like everyone else being frustrated with this woman).
2.) I guess Andres will find some other lucky lady in the end.
3.) Does anybody know that Tomas is involved in drug trafficking with 66 ?
4.) J-Low's NOT done yet. You can bet she's got something sinister planned.
5.) Steven's body is likely going to get ripe & deteriorate inside the freezer. Why didn't J-Low bury the body somewhere in the backyard of that big fancy house ?
6.) Ernesto continuing Cummings' business operations.
7.) I do like Steven's ringtone playing, it seemed that he perfectly did it to drive J-Low insane ROFLOL before he met his maker.
8.) You can expect Alondra to become EVIL due to the scopolamine. Just like her brother, Julian.
9.) Karina has NO clue that Julian's got a dark side & I'm worried she might NOT make it alive in the end either.
10.) Deadbeat Max: FAST FORWARD.
11.) Juanita, you're still convinced Max will not be among the living ?
12.) At least we didn't have to stomach another boring Frida song in this episode :)
Been too busy to comment for two nights' worth of episodes, but I did see them. And I will put up my regular Friday recap.
I also loved the scene with Eliza and Sofía. These two need each other. Carmen only judges Eliza for her feelings for Max. And, it's hurtful to Andrés when she confides in him.
What Paula has done to Alondra is sickening. I'm wondering if this is "telenovela medicine" or if that stuff sprayed on you could cause you to be so compliant. What deb posted sounded more like you'd just be groggy and sick. Elondra experienced a complete personality change.
I think they could have gone with Karina saying more to Max about what he did to her little brother. But I'm also OK with her loving her father. Daddy's Little Girl is a genuine phenomenon. I adored my dad, and I think it's a wholesome thing for a girl to have that.
Patrick manned up and took Lorena's badge and gun. She definitely came to the phone store at an earlier point and bribed the guy. When Joel walked away to talk with Richard on his cell, the guy asked Lorena if what he said was OK. I want a big, fat anvil to fall on her head, but I don't think it will be soon. If Patrick has removed her from the team, I don't see how she's going to be able to be involved in the story that much.
I thought J-Low did overhear Max and Charlie discussing the visit to Rodrigo. She looked like a thunder cloud. But then the ring tone came back and she was telling the contents of her own head to be quiet.
Max is pretty dumb. He should have learned by now to verify everything Jennifer says and to have insisted on the name, address, and a visit himself with her supposed psychiatrist.
Yes, I assumed Eliza got an email, not a text, from Steve's laptop.
Also, when J-Low was insisting she had to have something moved and was willing to pay triple, I assumed it was to move the freezer out of her house, rather than empty Steve's house of furniture. Besides, J. knows that Eliza and Andrés were there and saw all the furniture in place but no Steve. So it would be odd if the furniture now disappeared. Anyway, they've not specified what J wanted moved.
good points Juanita, hmm, the only way I see Max dying is if he does so for his family, like maybe joins Tomas against 66,
(they seem to be ignoring the whole thing about Tomas being a gangbanger and drug pusher like he is not, I kind of liked Andreas approach on this that they hit 66 head on)
ah, good comments novelera!
I was confused about Lorena at the phone store, because I wasn't sure of the flashback they threw in about her being there "earlier" and paying the guy off.
I'm thinking there are 2 ways Lorena could go now, crack the case and prove she is not a traitor, or join the bad guys, after all, Paula owes her for the warning, and I suspect Joel will push her aside.
Interesting point, novelera, about the thing J-Low wanting moved was her freezer. That would make good sense, except that wouldn't it still contain Steve's body (or parts of it)? If so, wouldn't the removers eventually open it to get rid of the contents and find...oops?
deb, apparently the writers/editors are now including flashbacks not only of scenes we've seen but also some we haven't. I'm pretty sure the scene Lorena flashes back to where she gives the phone store guy instructions about what to say is something she remembers (hence it's shown as a flashback) but something Viewerville has not seen before. I think I'll change my designation from [MF] to [MMFF], and yes, this time MF means MF :-).
Juanita, I doubt this mess will have a second season. Flashbacks now take more time than new material, which pretty much means that they ran out of ideas and have to stretch whatever they have to somehow last until the next telenovela is ready to be aired.
As everyone on this patio knows, I can't stand Max and can't stomach the idea of him ending up with Eliza. However, heroically dying would be too good an ending for him, Eliza and the children will idealize him and poor Andres is going to get Max's sloppy seconds(at best).
I want him to be alive, for Eliza to finally realize that whatever she feels for him is not love, just a very unhealthy obsession or dependency or transitory insanity or something and to close this horrible chapter of her life to start a new one, with or without Andres .
Lorena is a criminal and the only ending she deserves is sharing a jail cell with Paula in some maximum security prison (maybe she could redeem herself by beating the sh.t out of Paula every single day).
Novelera, I also immediately assumed that Jennifer wanted to empty Steve's apartment, but your idea that she actually wants to move the freezer makes much more sense. How else can she get that body out of there? Although Celia or Max might notice that the freezer is gone (or being moved ) and start asking questions. No, excuse me, let me correct myself. Celia might notice the freezer being moved. Max probably wouldn't notice even if Jennifer were to drag Steve's stiff body right by him, with a cloud of flies buzzing all around her.
Deb, it annoys me tremendously that they just dropped the whole Thomas is forced to commit serious crimes for a gangbanger. It wasn't mentioned in a while. I hope this doesn't mean that they actually dropped this whole storyline.
I agree with what Steve said in the earlier thread about Steve's other clients looking for him too. It's highly unlikely that Steve only had Raquel as a client. Actually, i am pretty sure that since he worked pro bono, he must have had a boatload of clients as desperate as Raquel is. I am sure that these clients would have started looking for him just as Eliza and Andres and they didn't get a helpful email curtesy of Jennifer explaining that he went to Spain. I am sure at certain point at least some of these clients would have realized that something must have happened to him and called the police.
Irene
Irene: You can expect Lorena to align with Ernesto & Paula to wreak havoc on Sofia & Eliza.
As for Alondra, I see her becoming more EVIL. Something tells me Telemundo will plot to get a 2nd Season out of this.
Jennifer could have the freezer moved to a storage facility or maybe even to Steve's house! I doubt she'd sell it; the next person would not like the popsicle inside. I don't see how she can plan to keep it in her house with Celia doing the cooking and going back there again. But what's with me trying to make sense!
Irene, I'm sure the plot points with Tomás and 66 will be resolved somehow. It would not be bearable for Eliza if T went to prison, so I suspect something will happen to 66, thus freeing Tomás. I know it isn't good what he's been doing; but, we have to remember that 66 threatened his mother and siblings if he didn't comply.
I have known people who lived in gang controlled neighborhoods, and it really is like that. These rats have an area staked out, and everyone who lives there, including my friend's grandmother, had to tread carefully.
From before: Tomás, furious at the sight of Max, tells him to leave and that he won’t hit him again because he respects his sister. Eliza again tells Andrés she still loves Max. Patrick tells Lorena she’s out of Interpol. And Sofía and Eliza embrace at the bakery.
Ernesto is thrilled with his submissive daughter. After he leaves Alo’s bedroom he thanks Paula from the bottom of his heart for having brought back his daughter to him.
Lorena is packing to return to Bogotá, and we are treated to a long, boring, maddening scene where she whines about how great it was when they lived together in Colombia. Dripping in self pity, she says she’ll get work in a restaurant making arepas [a cross between a tortilla and a pancake, often filled with cheese, or chicken, or shrimp]. Novelera wants her to get on a plane so bad; but Joel tells her she doesn’t have to leave like this.
Julián has brought Karina to a hotel room blindfolded. He then shows her the stereotypical telenovela roses on the bed. These are arranged as J heart K. He tells her he wants her first time to be special; and it’s his first time also. He clarifies: his first time making love with love.
Eliza and Sofía are in the bakery kitchen talking and making some kind of snacks. [What? No tequila? I’d have had tequila for such a reunion with a long lost friend!] We get a bunch more flashbacks as Eliza tells Sofía about accidentally running into Max at Charlie’s birthday and his buying her a house and giving her a ring. Back to the present: Eliza tells Sofía that it turned into a pesadilla as it always does with Max.
Eliza tells her: Necesitamos cargar pilas por muchas horas en vela con todo lo que tengo que contar. (We need to re-charge our batteries for the late night hours it will take to tell you the whole story.) She heads off to make more coffee.
Max gets into bed with the witch, turns his back on her, and she says she knows he’s planning to dream of Eliza. More Beethoven cell ringer in her head.
Raquel goes into Carmen’s bedroom and takes all her jewelry to pay the coyote.
In Los Angeles, Santiago looks at pictures of Raquel and broods. [Yawn]
Julián again has flashbacks and can’t do the deed. At last, tells Karina that he killed Vanessa.
Somehow this show where Frida is a headliner can be viewed from her web site. Totally miserable, Tomás watches with Benny. We get the whole blasted song again!
Julián explains what happened with Vanessa. Viewerville gets the whole flashback, the guy selling pills, the night club, the hotel room. Karina is disgusted and can’t stand his poor little rich boy whining. She calls him stupid and leaves.
Back to the bakery Eliza tells Sofía that Max and his wife only wanted Rodrigo to save their child. [OK, fire away at me, but why hasn’t he ever just told Eliza that he did not plan the donation and only found out about it when the needle was practically in Rodrigo’s back.]
[Max is still not getting her back, but I would like the truth to be told. He’s just letting her think that he conspired with Jennifer to get the bone marrow.]
Sofía has apparently told Eliza her sad story as well. She says that Joel just continues to believe that she killed his sister. She says, sadly, that things didn’t work for them 10 years ago and they aren’t working now.
Paula dumps the lemonade down the sink. I assume she thinks the spray stuff is better.
Ernesto tells Paula that Don Carlos is coming to visit with his nephew to have brunch there. After Paula leaves the room, he calls Ale to invite her.
Andrés and Eliza are outside the bakery preparing to start work early. They see J-Low peel off in her SUV and discover that she’s sprayed the wall with “Build the wall. Criminals here.” Andrés has it right. He says that J-Low doesn’t want Max to know she’s still harassing Eliza and tried to get away without being seen.
Raquel is all cheerful and peppy. She’s fixed breakfast for Carmen. She smiles and tells Carmen she’s decided not to think such dark thoughts any more. But she’s going to step out to the drugstore to get that medicine to dry up her milk.
Paula sprays some more of that stuff on Alo’s sleeping face. When Alo wakes, still looking groggy, Paula tells her that an important visitor is coming and she should make herself pretty.
Raquel gives the coyote part of Carmen’s jewelry and says she’ll give him the rest when she’s in LA. She meets Jessi, a girl who’s going to LA so she can celebrate her quinceañera with her father.
Tomás has come to Marc’s house with a bunch of flowers to give Frida. While he’s trying to convince Marc to let him inside, Frida stumbles out of a black car with Johnny and the “producer” whose name I forget. Looks like they had quite a night. Tomás stares, stonefaced.
Max has come to Steve’s house and is talking with the guy in the golf cart. The guy says that Steve’s wife came and had the house cleaned out. [So I was dead wrong about the freezer; it’s still there waiting for Celia to decide to make soup again.]
We see the migrants being herded into a false back of a big truck. They are closed off and some “merchandise” put in front of the false back.
Carmen has had her shower and goes to her jewelry box. She finds a note from Raquel saying she’s sorry. And promising to repay when she gets to LA.
Ale/Sofía has arrived at Casa Ernesto for the brunch. Julián is sitting there with sunglasses on inside the house, barely civil. Paula brings out Alo in a god awful black dress with white stripes and a high collar. She looks like a zombie and calls Ernesto papi. I’m very glad her mother has seen the state she’s in.
Muchas gracias, novelera, for yet another excellent recap.
I was amused when Ernesto thanked Paula for Alo's miraculous transformation. He thanks her and pats her cheek. That's clearly not the sort of thanks Paula was hoping for. I loved the dismayed look on her face.
I was also amused at the scene between J-Lowest and Max in bed. J-L accuses him of planning to dream of Eliza. Since her back is turned, J-L doesn't realize that he's already taken out his cell phone and is looking at photos of Eliza.
Yup, we get Frida's one song yet again. I think even she is getting a bit tired of it. Her performance this time didn't seem to me nearly as impressive as earlier ones had been.
I wonder how Karina will react if/when she finds out that Julián went running to Daddy to cover up for him both with Vanessa's death and with the traffic accident that resulted in one person being injured and, to some degree, Raquel getting deported.
Yes, Alo really did look like a zombie. Moreover, where did she find that dress? That should be a strong signal to Sofía that something is very wrong.
I agree, it's really astonishing how many times Max has failed to say that he was not in on the plan to get Rod's bone marrow and only found out about it as it was in progress.
I'm not sure whether it was explained, but I don't understand why Steve's wife has come all the way from Spain to clear out his house. She doesn't know that he's dead.
What has made her do this?
Sometimes, I'm sad when the weekend comes and I have to wait until Monday for the next episode of the novela I'm watching. Lately, though, I've been relieved.
Juanita, I'm pretty sure it was Jennifer posing as Steve's wife who got the house cleared out. This explained her call to the moving company. Probably the guy in the golf cart had never seen Margot since, as far as we know, she's stayed in Spain for 10 years.
Novelera: Sofia watching Alondra with a new personality seems to be difficult to watch. She knows something is terribly wrong.
Juanita: J-Low is upping the ante against Eliza even further & pulling a Trumpista.
HALIMACANDY: If you're here.
1.) Daddy Casilas & his posse surprise Castillo inside Mayra's apartmemt with guns pointed at him.
2.) Mayra makes some drinks while Daddy Casilas tells Castillo with code words about BPN being involved with drug cartels, narco-terrorists, killing Bizzaro Gaviota.
3.) Corina calling Daddy Casilas at the fancy restaurant while Colon & Navarro are right there.
4.) Karishi & Hot Girl still making out.
5.) BPN & Jaime get into another DL orgy AGAIN. I see Telemundo took out further scenes of this unlike last Tuesday's premiere episode.
6.) Zuleta gets blackmailed by El Capo & the Colombian by showing the video of BPN whacking Bizzaro Gaviota.
7.) Zuleta barges into the bedroom of BPN, who goes off at him. Zuleta explains EL Capo & the Colombians demand to work with the Corrupt President or else they'll leak the video to the press.
8.) BPN caves to their demands.
ALO,.... LOOKS LIKE doped-up zombie!! sofia..... digs the scene!!!!
Thomas.... got hip to the scene!!...Sofia and eliza get on the scene!!!!
Poor Carmen ..at the scene!!
Steve..
forget abt it!!... where Felina??.. not back..??.. I aint with it!!!
.....see you at the scene..SIN SUENOS~~ BABY!!!
wow, what an amazing recap novelera, much better than the show I was watching!
good description of Lore, "dripping in self pity", be a nice guy Joel and drive her to the airport and make sure she gets on a plane
when I remember that Tomas is in high school it kind of tilts that whole romance thingy with Frida, she's on a different level.
Daniela Wong (Alo) makes a good zombie, with the glazed squinty eyes and permanent smile, how is Sofia going to undo this?
Raquel seems to think she will be free in LA in 3 hours, even so, what's to stop Carmen from being there and strangling her.
and speaking of romances... will this novela be a first, with none?
novelera, as soon as I read your explanation of "Margot's" cleaning out Steve's apartment, I thought "Duh, of course! Why didn't I think of that?" Though I'm still a bit puzzled. Why would J-L be so intent on cleaning out Steve's apartment? Nothing in it points to what she did to him. I suppose there's a good deal of paperwork about his clients (assuming he works from home), such as Raquel, but that doesn't offhand seem like a reason to rush to get rid of it.
deb, interesting point about Tomás still being in high school.
As for romances, I doubt that the novela will leave us with none. I fear that Sofía may indeed wind up with Joel. And I hope Eliza will finally recognize how wonderful Andrés is.
The only reason I can think of for Jennifer wanting to clean out Steve's house is to back up the appearance of his having moved to Spain. As I wrote yesterday, Eliza and Andrés had already been through the house and seen everything, including that laptop, still in place, so Steve himself could not have arranged it. So Max is told that "Steve's wife" came to oversee the moving of his furniture. I don't think J thought of anyone seeing a woman, and she's going to struggle to explain Margot's having come from Spain to move some furniture...where?
All I can say is a) This is a telenovela, and b) J-Low is nuts.
Novelera: J-Low is going to get rid of the laptop & move everything out of Steven's house.
How long can she keep this a secret ?
"All I can say is a) This is a telenovela, and b) J-Low is nuts."
Oh, of course. I don't know why I keep missing the obvious!" :-)
What can I say about this episode, apart from thanking profusely the saint that invented the fast-forward button? Though his name is sadly unknown, his contribution to humanity will be forever cherished by millions of people able to avoid nervous breakdowns by skipping feminine hygiene or Diet coke commercials.
When will they stop torturing us with that godawful song?! It must be hell for people that watch this mess live.
Joel is dumber than a doormat to actually believe that Lorena just miraculously wound up at the wrong dock where she miraculously found a phone with incriminating information. And even if it's the truth, why the hell does he want Lorena to stay? She tried to frame Sophia, the woman he is supposed to love!
And by the way, he still didn't apologize to Sophia for doubting her. If Sophia stays with him at the end, nerfasos will fly with a vengeance at poor unsuspecting tv screens.
Julian confessed to Carina, but only about the crime that can't be prosecuted anymore. I wonder why doesn't he have remorse and erectile dysfunction about the accident that caused Raquel's deportation? It seems that this particular crime doesn't bother him at all. It's as if it never existed.
Jennifer is really a nutcase. What does emptying Steve's apartment even accomplish? And how is it logical that Steve's wife, from whom he is divorced, came all the way from Spain just to empty his apartment?
Irene
Irene: Let's see how Sofia handles Alondra being EVIL with the new personality that Paula put on AloBrat.
Irene, good question about why Steve's divorced wife would come from Spain to clear out his apartment. I hope that the question will also occur to Andrés or Eliza, though perhaps that's too much to hope for.
As for Julián, I don't think the accident that led to the hot dog vender being injured and Raquel being deported has really made much of a dent on Julián's consciousness. Whereas he knew Valerie, knew he had contributed to her death, and saw her dead body, he had much less contact or awareness of anyone in the second incident. Of course, if he were a more responsible person, he would be much more aware than he is, even if he doesn't know the people involved and isn't aware of any very serious consequences of his act. He's learned all too well from his father that the important thing is to avoid responsibility and unpleasant consequences.
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