Caray, Caray!

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

1.) BPN scolds the Venezuelan Ambassador to Mexico by launching insults about the ongoing crisis inside the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

He tells her to get the EXPLETIVE out of his office.

2.) Mayra gives Castillo the stink eye when he was googling at the Short Hair Girl.

3.) BPN scolds Castillo again.

4.) Ambar has sex with Cuban Army General Javares (fat guy with goatee).

5.) Daddy Casilas escapes Havana after shooting several of the Castro Hitman Squad.

6.) Corina shows up at the Casilas family Mansion, which disgusts Ritula & Ishmael.
 

LADO
This one was a little bit of a let down, especially since they should be wrapping everything up.
 

"LADO":

Victoria: Turns out Paula & Pastrana are in Miami, FL.

Big question is whether Alondra gets sold into prostitution ? That will be Ernesto's BIGLY Karma.
 

Lado

From the beginning I was wondering if Alo wld get caught up in the trade because of ernie...either her or karina...turns out its Alo at risk. No one deserves that but it wld be hell uv a justice statement for ernie.

Still think Julian is getting off easy vs what he allowed to happen to Raquel...hope she can make it back to the states exonerated.

I knew Jen was faking it. She is good..... but I dont recall how she got that siringe...and what is in it?. Yikes for Eliza.



Nett
 

LADO

YES.. KARMA IS A ITCH-BEY!! ERNIE -BOY.. WHAT TH HECK!!

SO PAULA IS MR.BIG...cause woud this have gone on without his sanction.. Paula does alot w/out checking in or touching base.. why would she ,she has been running the whole show ..really????!!!

MY $$$$ MONEY IS ON PAULA/MRS BIG!! .. HAD TO... 'RUN- GAME '...IN A MAN'S [MALE SEXUAL PREDATORS' ] WORLD

Halimacandy on the sneak tip from job
 

LADO

IMO Paula is not Big Man. I see no way she would play a back role to Ernesto if that was the case.

IMO Julian is redeemable. I mean, why should Tomás get off scott-free and not Julian ?

And puff, there goes Lorena?

If Katrina goes with Max, the watching this show would be a complete waste.

I still don't think there is a spy/. traitor in the mix.

And how did Alondra say she KNEW Paula was poisoning her. That statement was out of the ball park.

I thought Alondra would get caught up in the sex trade because of the opening credit with the teenage girl looking out of the locked door.

Jen does crazy absolutely believable.

How do you guys think this will wound down with only two episodes left?
 

Lado

I found the episode quite interesting and well done. I think Paula is off the reservation and acting alone in a classic telenovela scorned woman mode. She must know that she won’t get away with this and Big Man would have his revenge. The scene was well done by both actors where she feeds him the lines she always wanted to hear him say and then dissolves in tears because she’s not nuts like J-Low and knows he really doesn’t mean them.

It surprised me that Pastrana is loyal to Paula and not to Ernesto.

Max gave it one more sulky try, wanting Andrés to leave so he could work on Eliza’s sexual attraction to him. But she stood firm in her decision. So those of us here rooting for Andrés the whole time are getting their way.

I enjoyed the scene where Tomás is so joyful about the news of Charlie’s complete remission. He leaped behind the counter to get the very best cake.

Julián’s explanation to Karina was well done also. In anguish he told her about all the people he loved who had been taken from him. I have a hope there might be an upcoming scene in which he reconciles with Sofía, the step-mother he told Karina he’d loved as a boy.

For a minute there I almost believed J-Low. Eliza just cannot seem to believe the worst of people, so she went there even after all Jennifer had done in the past.

I’m rooting for Max getting over himself, not giving his life to save Charlie, and being part of Karina, Tomás, and Rodrigo’s lives going forward.

Adriana Barraza is SUCH a pro. I loved her scene with Tomás where she laid it right out there about how women get the blame in sex scandals and how courageous Frida was admitting the whole thing on TV.

And, something that hasn’t been mentioned: After she watched the scene on TV where Ariadna said that she’d told the truth, she appeared to put a tray on the bar. I got the impression she may be waiting tables at the karaoke bar. She had great success on the internet, but it’s not clear to me how performances on You Tube or whatever that was translate into dollars in the performer’s pocket. And the interviewer grilling Johnny said something about his having blackballed her with other producers. So maybe she doesn’t have any earnings from her online success.
 

Lado

I missed Alo statement that she knew she was being drugged and I agree it doesnt fit with her actions during the ordeal. But now she has to avoid being sold or drugged again.

Lot of flawed chracters in this TN. I too feel Tom shld pay for his sins as well as Julian. Tom was coerced in the beginning but still knew his actions were harming women un benown to them.

If Big Man is not a new character ....cld it be Paula
.Ive speculated before. She is in the middle of everything and she has Pastrana on call. However....but for luv...why wld she lower herself to Ernie if she ia indeed big man.

No one is at the house...why hasnt the made discovred the body in the fridge yet.

Nett
 

Lado

Many thanks, novelera, for your very helpful and interesting recap. I think you did a great job of describing Paula's revenge that doesn't work for her even as it succeeds.

I also loved your wording "Max gave it one more sulky try."

I agree too with what you said about Adriana Barraza and her scene with Tomás. And thanks for calling attention to Frida's possibly now waiting tables at the bar. I hadn't noticed that, but it certainly seems plausible and fitting.

Unlike Eliza, I was suspicious even as J-Low was asking for forgiveness and for Eliza to care for Charlie Champ and Max. She sounded very believable, but we've also seen her be similarly believable in the past with Max. And I think Eliza went to see J-Low not just because she asked her to but, IIRC, because J-Low claimed to have info about Rodrigo. So Eliza isn't quite as naive as her going to see J-Low might make her seem. (It's ironic that at the start of this episode, Joel tells Eliza that, for Eliza's safety and that of her family, she must break all ties with Sofía and her family. But at the end of the episode, we see the danger coming from a totally different source.)
 

Lado

Alondra already remembered Paula and the spray the first time she started to detox. Why wouldn't she remember it once she detoxed completely?

There's no way "Big Man" is Paula. Don Carlos has met Big Man in person. If it were Paula, he wouldn't have been so snotty about not liking women being involved in business.

It strikes me as disturbing to so gleefully call what's happening to Alondra a punishment for Ernesto.
 

Lado

Another reason for Paula not to be "Big Man" is the fact that Don Carlos made a statement about his attending the wedding being an honor for Ernesto as he usually didn't show his face near any of the other conspirators. They did the big fake-out for Viewerville of Carlos getting ready to open the limo door for Big Man to get out when shots were fired and the limo drove off in a hurry.

Then Interpol apparently discovered that Paula was in Miami when everything went down.
 

Lado

Right. Paula was accounted for and so was everyone else.
 

"LADO":

HALIMACANDY: Are you sure Paula was "The Big Man" ? Because they showed a limousine driving up as Ernesto & Don Carlos walked up to it before the gunshots rang out.

Novelera: Big question is whether they'll reveal "The Big Man" tonight ?

Juanita: I already KNEW Jennifer was faking it as well. She is hell-bent on keeping DEADBEAT Max & Charles at any costs. You might want to start praying for Eliza right now.

As for Julian: he will NEVER get his Karma anytime soon!
 

Lado

wow, great comments all!

and thanks for chiming in 5ftlatina!

hmm, I suppose Paula could have used a stand-in, knowing that the kidnap would disrupt everything, but then she would have had to of used a stand-in when meeting with Don Carlos earlier.

I guess the strategy here was to wait for the Big Man reveal before taking everyone down, or was Sofia really going through with the marriage?

Paula apparently left the country because they located her when she re-entered at the Miami airport, a week went by so she had lots of time to set things up.

Jen gets crazier everytime we see her, (she got the hypodermic needle off the nurse's tray when she grabbed the phone) I still remember when Aracely Arámbula, was it in "La Patrona", stuck the needle into the bad doctora's eye.

Carmen also had a good scene with Karina when Raquel called about the $40K, from a Nigerian prince was it?, where Karina revealed that it was Julian selling his car, and Karina was wondering what to do, Eliza and Sofia going separate ways isn't going to work with Karina and Julian.

 

Lado

You're welcome.

I think most of the questions have found answers, but if not: https://5ftlatina.com/cohete/2018/06/08/al-otro-lado-del-muro-thursday-6-7-18-76
 

LADO

What I saw in the backseat of the limousine was the profile of a man.

5ftLatina, good to hear from you here! I try to read your blog also.
 

"LADO":

Victoria: Big question is whether anyone will stop Jennifer ?
 

Sin Senos 3

If y'all are planning to do recaps, you're welcome to post a link here

https://5ftlatina.com/cohete-forums/proximas-chatter/sin-senos-si-hay-paraiso-3/

Kat
 

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Congratulations to the Golden St Warriors on winning their 6th NBA Championship!

This is coming from lifelong staunch San Antonio Spurs fan.
 

LADO – EL PENÚLTIMO – VIERNES – Parte 1 de 3

Thursday: We see Sofía in her wedding dress telling Ernesto it’s bad luck to see the bride in her dress. We see Alo’s kidnapping by Pastrana and Sofía getting away when the guy who grabbed her is shot. We see Big Man in profile hearing the shots and telling his driver: “Let’s get out of here now!” (in English). We also see J-Low’s Oscar worthy performance telling Eliza how sorry she is, and then we see the syringe.

Tonight: Patrick is telling the team that the auction will be at a fancy party. The guests are all millionaires, both men and women (!!) who want sexual experiences out of the ordinary. They know who three of them are. Their best bet is Samuel Kuri, a Colombian, who has plenty of things with which to arrest him.

We then see Patrick and Joel grab up this Kuri, arrest him, and get the invitations to the auction.

Karina and Julián apparently finally did the deed. [This seems odd timing considering that they both know that his sister and her sister by living together has been kidnapped.]

Back at the karaoke bar we again hear Frida’s one and only song. She’s not quite so over the top this time. And we see Tomás come into the club smiling at her.

Ernesto is coming unglued. [This whole episode featured splendid acting by Gabriel Porras.] When Carlos tries to calm him down, he grabs him by the throat. But then collapses calling for Alondra.

We see J-Low sneak out, leaving Eliza in her bed in the Nut House. [If Eliza were not one of the protagonists, we might think there was a dead body in the bed, but we know better.]

Sofía insists she has to come to the auction.

Horrible, horrible Paula tells Alondra, who has a gag over her mouth, that she should thank her for not just sending her to some brothel. But she crows about getting money from auctioning her off. And mentions that there will also be un pujo en la linea (bids for Alo on the internet).

[How is Paula even still involved in this auction? Carlos had ordered her out of the country. You’d think Big Man or Carlos or someone would not let her swan around as if she’s running the show.]

Paula advises Alo to smile and look pretty so she doesn’t get sold to someone who likes to beat fierce girls.
 

LADO – EL PENÚLTIMO – VIERNES – Parte 2 de 3

Eliza wakes up, crawls to the door, and shouts for help. Andrés comes to get her.

The Team is planning. Joel will have a undetectable mike in his cufflink. Joel asks about the orden de cateo (search warrant), and Patrick tells him they don’t have it yet. The owner of the mansion is a prominent guy in Miami, but he has accepted that Joel and Sofía infiltrate.

We see a fancy house and Joel and Sofía arriving in evening clothes. They present Kuri’s invitations and are relieved of their cell phones.

Max tells Eliza and Andrés that he’s going to call the police about Jennifer being on the loose.

Joel goes inside the mansion to sit in the room where the auction will be. He’s got a full mask on. Richard tells Patrick that he knows Sofía; she won’t stay outside – no matter what Joel said. Richard is right; she goes inside looking for Alondra.

Paula gloats over Alo, who’s wearing some kind of Greek looking white, short dress or nighty. Paula says she’ll get more money if Alo appears younger.

Sofía enters a room where some girls are waiting to be sold. She tells them she’ll get them out, but asks for their help in finding Alondra. But Pastrana shows up.

Ernesto begs Carlos to do something – to get his daughter out of there. Carlos: [who I fervently hope comes to a very bad end, and soon] No podemos actuar sin delatarnos nosotros mismos. (We can’t do anything without giving ourselves away as part of it.) He gives Ernesto insufferable advice: “This is when you show how far you’re prepared to get power.” Ernesto sobs that it’s his daughter. Ice Cold Carlos tells him that there’s collateral damage in life and in war.

Carlos says he doesn’t understand why these guys like little girls. He has the auction on his cell. The auction of Alondra is announced and Ernesto screams. Julián runs in at the sound his father makes, and Karina watches from the doorway.

Sofía and Paula have a very convincing fight, while Joel keeps bidding higher on Alondra to keep her away from the pervert on his right.

Ernesto again begs Carlos to intervene. Julián: “Is it true they’re selling Alondra? Why haven’t you called the police?” Carlos tells him that, if that happened, his father would end up in jail for life.
 

LADO – EL PENÚLTIMO – VIERNES – Parte 3 de 3

Carmen is waving a bat around as protection against J-Low, when Eliza gets a text from Steve’s phone. [What? How many phones did Steve have?] The message says to meet him at Max’s house.

Patrick was telling Richard that Joel was bidding too high, and he was right. Pastrana comes in, points a gun at the guy who bid $800K, and pulls off his mask. The Team can hear what Pastrana says, and they send in the SWAT team. Pastrana has the gun pointed at Joel, but Alo kicks him from behind and saves Joel.

Julián confronts his father, saying he’s a Mafioso. We see a flashback to when Julián the boy refused to leave with Sofía. ”¡Y no era Sofía que vendó esas niñas, eras tú!” “And that’s why she took Alondra, to keep her away from you!”

Carlos tells Julián that he was the one who enjoyed the good life, so don’t be ungrateful. Just then Carlos gets a call about the raid and tells someone to get them out of the country. He tells Ernesto that all the safe houses were discovered.

Richard tells Joel that they have all the girls, but not Alondra. They have her in the attic.

Julián pleads with his father not to be a coward. He asks him to give himself up. Julián believes there’s something good in his father and says he’ll stand by him through the whole thing. [We don’t see him leave, but I doubt he’ll pass up the helicopter on the lawn.]

Andrés thinks the call from Steve sounds fishy and runs out.

We see Eliza arriving at Casa Max, opens the door and calls out Steve’s name. She goes into the storeroom, sees a bunch of frozen stuff strewn on the floor, and looks into the open freezer and sees Popsicle Steve. She screams, and we see Jennifer hit her with a crowbar from behind.

In the attic of the mansion Pastrana has his gun pointed at Alo and Joel comes in and points his gun at Paula. You gotta hand it to Paula for her guts. She basically says it’s a standoff, and, if Joel shoots her, Pastrana will shoot Alo and then these other guys will shoot Joel and Sofía. She wants a helicopter in 10 minutes to take her to the airport and a flight out of the country. She taunts Joel about she and Pastrana having killed his sister.
 

Lado

Propa, novelera. All the acution-related dialogue was hard to deal with.
 

Props! I've been staring at the screen too long! May the skeeve not disturb your sleep.
 

Lado

can Ernesto have a drink now?

 

LADO

Carmen and her baseball bat!! She rocks!

Popsicle Steve!! I wish that moniker had come up earlier in the show because it's perfect. Novelera, what a great sense of humor you have.!!!!

Paula needs a hair coloring job done. Like NOW. Her black roots helped her look more like Cruella Deville than ever.

Looks like we finally got the cat fight scene, but where/when was the car chase?

That bedroom at the end surely wasn't in any attic I've ever seen.

I hope Max stays a coward until the end.

We are certainly going to miss Andrés after this novela ends.

As usual, I'm confused. Is Steve's phone really ringing all this time or is it just background mood music? If the first, I want that long-lasting battery.

Where did Big Man go???
 

"LADO":

Victoria: I noticed Alondra & the other girls were barefoot during the auction.

Somebody FINALLY found Steven's frozen body.... too bad Jennifer knocked Eliza out with the baseball bat.


 

Lado


How did thr bidy get moved. I remember movers but not the actual event...thought the body was still at jens house.

Nett
 

Lado

wow, excellent recap novelera! you really did a fine job with the details.

I guess nobody thought to look for Jen at home.

hmm, the party was supposed to have been put on by the Big Man, but I guess Paula could have made all the arrangements, but aren't Carlos and Ernesto running the show, seems like they could have planted someone there to buy Alondra.

I didn't get everything on the sniper, I'm hoping Joel put down his gun to move everyone around to give him a better shot.

 

"LADO":

Deb: Do you think Ernesto will flee the country ?
 

LADO

He will really try, Julian's advice, which Julian should tell himself, isn't working with Ernesto. I hope they shoot down the helicopter!! But with Max inside also.
 

Lado

Wow! You got a winner of an episode, novelera, and you did it justice and much more! (I'm sorry I didn't comment earlier, but I was out late last night and I didn't have a chance to watch the episode until just now.)

I can't think of a thing you didn't cover. And I'm so glad you included order de cateo, which I was planning to look up.

As for Steve's phones, apparently there were two. One J-Low smashed to smithereens in a fit of rage after managing to get Steve into the freezer. But then, to Viewerville's confusion (really the writers' confusion, I suspect), Jen extracts another phone from Popsicle Steve, perhaps during one of the times she kept hearing the "Für Elise" ringtone in her mind. I don't think we see her destroy this phone, so perhaps she kept it and is using it now to lure Elise--oops, I mean Eliza--to her house.

It's ironic: Eliza has recently yelled at the hospital staff for not being more careful and security-conscious, but now we see Eliza herself not being at all suspicious of a call supposedly from Steve--who as far as she knows is in Spain--asking her to come to Max's house. Fortunately Andrés's brain is still working. He immediately senses that there's something screwy about a call from Steve and goes to investigate.
 

Lado

Victoria, you say "Popsicle Steve!! I wish that moniker had come up earlier in the show because it's perfect." Yes, it is perfect, and it has come up earlier in the recaps thanks to novelera, who started using it last month. Others of us told her how much we loved it, and we started using it ourselves.

As for Steve's phone, after his death, I think it rings only in Jennifer's mind. It does so repeatedly, a function of her being unable to forget what she did to him. There's no doubt that it's in her mind. Indeed, on one or possibly two occasions, she thinks that Max has put Steve's ringtone on his phone and she yells at him to turn it off. But each time, no phone is actually ringing, except in her crazed mind.
 

Lado

When did Eliza learn English. She spoke it in the hospital

Nett
 

LADO

Nett
After living here for years, she should have learned our native tongue--English.
 

Lado

"our native tongue" Anonymous? Some of us are native Spanish speakers or learned both at the same time. There is no official language in the United States.

Nett, sometimes people aren't comfortable saying they speak a language because they're not fluent in it, or not as fluent as they'd like to be, or they're hesitant to say they do and then make a mistake.
 

LADO

What I should have said was that immigrants should learn English, it isn't considered our native language only because the government decided naming it such was too racially charged.

I learned Spanish when I first moved to Latin America, all immigrants had to pass a proficiently test in English. But that has long been discarded.

No offense meant.
 

Lado and general

And yet you offended. Your use of "our" makes it clear who you think the audience here is.
 

General

I live in California, and a case can be made that Spanish is our native tongue. We were first part of New Spain and then part of an independent Mexico until 1848.
 

Lado.

My question was about the storyline. I thought there was some discussion that Eliza didn't or couldn't speak English so when I finally watched Thursday epi today...it surprised me...same as finding out Steve's body had been moved. I thought the fridge was still at Jen's place.

5ftlatina.... I agree with your statement about comfort level and foreign languages. I would like to think that if I moved to a foreign land, I'd eventually learn the language. But I know it's not easy. I'm purposely trying to learn Spanish and have not progressed as much as I would have liked to. And to your point, I'm intimidated when I speak with certain people who have mastered the language. I find myself clamming up and not want to waste the more fluent person's time...or have them loose interest.

Interesting enough, I read an article somewhere that pointed out that one reason its harder for adults to learn a new language vs kids.. is because they're don't want to sound silly or make mistakes in front of others. Interesting enough...I'm not worried about how I look...just don't want to waste someone else time....or maybe I don't realize it's embarrassment.

Nett
 

Lado

Nett, the freezer's definitely still at Jen's place. I never think of it as Max's house because it seemed like he was moving out every five minutes. To live where, who knows.
 

General and Lado

Nett, I think I may be responsible for your confusion about where Steve's body was. Some time ago when we saw Jennifer calling a mover and being willing to pay triple to get it done, I speculated that she might be moving the freezer out so that Celia couldn't open it to take out food and discover the body.

We subsequently learned that the mover she hired was to clean out Steve's furniture to support her lie about his having moved to Spain.

So, yes, the freezer always stayed put in she and Max's house. And they've showed a chain around it (??) but somehow it got opened several times, despite the chain. But neither the police nor Max (who was distracted by the arrival of Tomás to confess to the robbery) ever saw the body.

They have showed Eliza having little to no English in early episodes, where she had her children translate for her in some situations. And she was unable to tell the police that someone else caused the car accident that ultimately resulted in Raquel being deported. Eliza was there when this happened, although I don't think she saw Julián being the cause. Eliza was in the area to meet Max at a meeting with attorneys where Max was officially named as Rodrigo's legal father.

So, yes, it did sort of come out of nowhere when Eliza spoke English to the staff of the mental hospital.

And I think the major difficulty with learning foreign languages is that some of that ability goes away past, say, 18 years of age. The best time to be bilingual is when you're very little. But I know a young man (a co-worker) who immigrated from Mexico at age 12, speaking no English, who now speaks perfectly fluent English. There are only a few, tiny vowel sounds where you can detect that he wasn't born here. And maybe I only look for them because I know his history.

So, the older you are, the harder language acquisition becomes. I studied Latin and French in high school. My French accent is very good, but I forgot all the vocabulary from not using it.

And I studied no more languages until I was past 40. I took Portuguese for a year because I was motivated by a Brazilian boyfriend.

Then, beginning to work in a construction company with many Spanish speakers, I took up studying Spanish. I've worked very hard on it, but I still sometimes get stumped and tongue-tied when conversing with native speakers. But I force myself to do it. And they certainly don't point out the errors I realize I've made right after the words came out of my mouth!
 

LADO

Novelera,
I've always found that Latin Americans are very polite, respectful, helpful, and patient with someone who is trying to learn Spanish. My experience was that I was never afraid or embarrassed to chop up Spanish conversations, and I always try to help a Latin American if they stumble over English.

My husband (69 years old) learned English when he came to school here at age 18. There are still words he mispronounces from time to time:. Yacht, occupancy, etc. And he speaks with a Southern accent!

But I do agree with Anon that people of all ethnic groups should learn the language, to the best of their ability, of the place they call home.
 

"LADO":

Victoria: We're going to find out soon enough tomorrow night.
 

Sin Senos Si Hay Paraiso 3

Juanita- I put together a little who's who for you.


Sin Senos NO hay Paraiso

in the beginning there was,

Catalina (la grande) in high school, living with
Hilda, her mother
Bayron, her brother, later dies.

her friends,
Ximena,
Vanessa,
Paola,
and Jessica (la Diabla)

Jessica provided girls for the narcos, her 3 friends were pre-pagos, Cata was later brought in.

Alberio, her boyfriend
Jota, his friend

el Titi, a narco boyfriend
Marcial, a powerful narco who would give her anything, they married.

the story ends with Jessica turning Marcial against Cata, taking him for herself, then turning him in and acquiring all his wealth.

Cata dies, Hilda is pregnant from Alberio, Titi and Marcial are in prison.


Sin Senos si hay Paraiso 1

jump ahead about 18 years, (2008-2016 real time)

Catalina la pequena, is in high school living with,
Hilda, her mother
Alberio, her father

Cata la grande's friends all had daughters
Ximena- Valentina, cata's BFF
Vanessa- Adriana, cata's BFF, who died
Paola- Martina, who has become the new Jessica recruiting girls, later dies.
Jessica- Daniela

Hernan Dario, her boyfriend, local bicycle delivery guy.

Daniel, a reporter
Lucia, his girlfriend

Titi and Marcial have been released from prison in order to get la Diabla, Marcial's plan revolves around getting his wealth returned to Hilda, the rightful heir, he also discovers Daniela is not his daughter.

Cata la grande appears and captures la Diabla.


Sin Senos si hay Paraiso 2

Cata la grande is living in Miami with,
Santiago, her husband
Mariana, her daughter, likes marijuana.
Sebastian, her son

Martin, her boss at TEA

Jessica (La Diabla) escapes from prison with a couple of girls

Dayana, the new girl recruiter, provadora I think they called her.

Calvo, Diabla's guy who romances Hilda

Amparo, Diabla's sister (who is in real life)

the plot went off in a couple of different directions,

Cata la grande moves her family to Colombia to get la Diabla.

Mariana falls for Hernan, drugs him, has sex, convinces all she is pregnant with his baby.

Titi went back to being a narco, kills the big guy, (nope just his double) Dayana brings him Mariana who is drugged and he has sex with.

Cata la grande's friends thinks there is a curse that's killing their daughters.

Hilda had amnesia, was romanced by Calvo, turns against Alberio, who still has feelings for Cata la grande.

TEA Martin turns out to be a serial killer who eats his victims, locks Cata la grande away but she escapes and has him arrested.

la Diabla has taken on her sisters idenity (who has come looking for her), puts a spell on Alberio, has sex with him, saves the condom and hires a surrogate mother.

Santiago has gone off with an earlier girlfriend.

and so everything/everyone came together at a beauty pageant, in the gran final, I recommend that you watch this as this will be where season 3 starts.

 

Senos

Deb, thanks so much for this helpful synopsis. I will start watching although I didn't like what I saw of the second installment. I did not watch the first one at all.
 

Lado:

Novelera, thank you so much for a great recap replete with useful Spanish expressions. And thank you Juanita and Deb for your recaps.
I had no time to watch Lado due to heavy workload, but am now all caught-up.

The last couple of episodes were quite exciting and full of action, however I am terribly disappointed that Lorena and Julian are not going to suffer the consequences of their acts.
Lorena committed several crimes and her anvil is Joel dumping her?
And Julian caused the death of a girl, caused an accident which resulted in one person being injured and caused Raquel's deportation and subsequent near loss of life and his anvil is losing a car?
We only have one episode left, so I doubt that Benny and 66 will get their anvils.
And what about Johnny ? He should have been arrested for assault and battery for beating Frida with a belt.
And to be honest, I am not o.k that Thomas suffered no consequences whatsoever for his actions. Granted, at the beginning he was forced to deal drugs (although I personally think that he deserves jail-time for not preventing the girls from being raped), but then he willingly joined 66 and almost killed a person during an armed robbery. No one died by pure luck. He wasn't forced to join the gang and he wasn't forced to rob the house, he did it as part of his initiation into a gang and it doesn't matter that he was depressed because his girlfriend left him. If, in real life, we were to hear that a young man robbed a house, held a child at gun point and almost killed him, we would want that young man in jail. There are attenuating circumstances that should be taken into account by the judge during sentencing, but I firmly believe that it's impossible to commit such serious crimes and not to be punished at all, even in a telenovela.


Irene

 

Senos

Deb

I'm not watching Senos but wanted to say how wonderful it is so wonderful of you to take time to write up the synopsis of Senos.

I'm sure your readers appreciate all your dedication.
 

Sin Senos

novelera, if it helps, Gregorio Pernía (el Titi) has said that this season will only be about 40 episodes.

I'm wondering if "La Reina del Sur 2" will follow.

 

Lado

Irene, I agree with you. With only one epi left, it appears that many will escape what's due to them for their crimes. And I'm still not happy with the primary couple. We have to see how they wrap up the Max/Eliza/Andreas tomorrow. I wont take it for granted that Max won't win.

Nett
 

sin-senos1

deb, thanks VERY much for this very helpful plot summary. I have one question: at the end of Sin Senos No, you say Cata dies. This is Cata la grande, I assume. But at the end of Sin Senos Sí1, you say "Cata la grande appears and captures La Diabla." She dies and then she appears?
 

General

The 3rd season of Sin senos sí hay paraíso begins on Tuesday. As you know, we all are asked to put labels at the top of our postings so people will know what novela our posting refers to. That label also helps people search for discussions even years after the discussions took place. The labels for the earlier novelas in the Sin Senos series are sin-senos (for Sin Senos No), sin-senos1 (for the first season of Sin Senos Sí), and sin-senos2 for the second seasons. To keep everything consistent, I've arranged that the label for the 3rd season will be sin-senos3. Frankly, I'd have preferred just senos3, but I think it's important to keep the label consistent with those of past seasons. Thus, we should put sin-senos3 at the top of each posting we make about the 3rd season's novela. Thanks.
 

sin-senos / sin-senos1 / sin-senos2

Juanita, sorry for the confusion,

at the end of Sin Senos No, Cata (who failed to kill herself) hired a hit man to kill Jessica, she then disguised herself as Jessica, let the guy know where she was, he came up behind her and shot her in the back of the head at close range multiple times, and the story ended without a doubt she had died.

near the end of Sin Senos Si 1, Carmen Villalobos became available and so they brought her back in the gran final, where she was part of a special ops TEA team that captured Jessica.

I think it was in the beginning of season 2 where they explained her being alive, the doc (Santiago whom she later married) had saved her, the TEA whom she was working with against the narcos took her to Miami and gave her a new identity, letting everyone believe she was dead.

 

sin-senos / sin-senos1 / sin-senos2 / lado

Ah, thanks very much, deb. This reminds me of Sofía in Lado. The FBI let the world think that Sofía died in the "accident" with the truck, and then she cooperated with them in trying to get the child traffickers.

I'm definitely going to give Senos3 a try. However, as I said a few days ago, I won't be able to recap this Tuesday, which is when it starts. I hope someone else will provide a recap of the crucial first episode. Since I can't recap this Tuesday, I'll be recapping tomorrow (Monday), which as it happens is Lado's Grand Finale. (Some people have referred to this as the Grand Final. Is that the Spanish term?)
 

When I saw what I'd written in the preceding posting, I realized that the Spanish for Grand Finale is gran final, and in fact that's the term that deb used.
 

"LADO":

Irene: Do NOT count on the Corrupt Doctor getting his Karma.
 

"LADO":

LXV: Are you going to post a new thread for this week ?


 

General

What a funny question. There have been two threads a week like clockwork at 8pm Eastern for years now.
 

sin senos-3

Thanks, Deb, for the excellent recap.
No biggie, but I think the spelling is Albeiro, for Catalina Grande's true love, who of course, married Hilda and had a baby with her (she's Little Catalina, about 18 now). But Al still loves Cata (and she him), despite the fact that she's now married to Santiago and he's unwittingly impregnated Jesica (we think).

A few more funny things - despite having tons of drug money, Jesica's daughter Daniela's life goal is to win the beauty pageant, even by cheating. Daniela is so evil, but sooooo funny, to me, with her juvenile way of doing things. Then we have Catalina la Pequeña, who is the force for good, she has to enter the beauty contest to beat Daniela, with real (not artificial, or enhanced) "beauty". It's quite funny, except for the fact that people keep getting killed.

Last funny thing, the cops are the TEA, which stands for Traffic Enforcement Agency. You see, they're American, and they're stopping drug Traffic, but to me, the name sounds a lot less threatening than I think the producers intended.

I'll be watching, but can generally only comment on weekends.
 

sin-senos3

Thanks, Hombre, for explaining what TEA stands for. You're right, it sounds surprisingly tame. Moreover, the writers apparently got it wrong. At least in the USA, it's the DEA that's in charge of stopping drug traffic (Drug Enforcement Administration).
 

sin-senos3

Juanita, I think they purposely didn't want to use the real name, DEA, so they made up a similar name, not fully understanding how it sounds in English to Americans.
 

sin-senos3

Hombre, you're probably right. However, they do say FBI, so I'm not sure why they wouldn't say DEA. Oh well, ours not to reason why.... :-)
 

sin-senos3

Hombre- thanks for the correction.

If I remember right, we left season 1 with Jessica having AIDs, they kind of ignored it in season 2 but the time Albeiro had sex with Jessica, he used a condom, which Jessica saved and threw in the fridge/freezer, in the gran final she is arranging for a girl as a surrogate mother to have his baby (so she won't have any emotional attachment).