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FALSA IDENTIDAD, Capítulo 20, Parte 1 de 3

Some scenes from Friday: Amanda throws the breakfast Diego made her on the floor. Fernanda discovers her house has been mortgaged and the bank is taking it back. Gavino tells his crooked lawyer to get Joselito to pay for his protection from the Colombians in jail. Fernanda begins to put one leg over the rather high up balcony of her house.

Zoraida sees what Fernanda is doing and begs her not to jump. Zoraida and two other maids (why haven’t these other maids taken off?) grab Fernanda. She collapses on the bed sobbing, apparently beyond embarrassment at doing this in front of “the help”. ¡No tengo nada!

Joselito is a total wuss about having the bullet removed, crying out. Eventually he passes out from the pain. The cartel doctor says he’ll need antibiotics.

Deivid points a gun at the unconscious José. Apparently his mother was killed by one of the guys José ordered to do so. Then, Brrrrinng! Rats, Deivid picks up his cell instead of finishing off José. It’s Circe. She’s in un pedote and needs help. [I’ve understood pedo in context in this novela and others. It literally means fart, but is used colloquially to mean a problem, an issue, or an argument.] Circe means to say she’s in a big pickle and needs help.

We are treated to another gratuitous scene with Paloma’s jealousy of Isa. The envious one tells Isa she’s not a good dancer and only is there because Jim is drooling over her. Isa actually pushes her on her hindquarters (Yeah!). Isa is NOT taking crap from anyone any more.

Marlene wonders why Isa was so angry with Paloma, and then answers her own question: Mujeres juntas ni difuntas. [I looked this one up. Marlene is using an apparently common expression used by men; that women can’t get along or are always jealous of each other.]

Porfirio is playing a risky game with his father. He brings it right out in the open, acknowledging that his father is afraid Porfirio will turn him in for killing his mother. When Mateo insists it was an accident, Porfi says that, if that were the case, Mateo would not have buried her in the house.

For some unknown reason Disgusto rolls up in his new convertible just as Diana is coming out of a building. Not sure where they are. But he hastens to tell her that there’s no more free ride. She has to get at least a part-time job and not vivir a costillas de su hermana (live off her sister).

Jose isn’t doing well. Like nearly all persons shot in telenovelas, he gets an infection and a high fever almost immediately!
 

FALSA IDENTIDAD, Capítulo 20, Parte 2 de 3

Deivid meets up with Circe and gives her hers and Felipa’s passports. (Do they need passports to go to DF?) He also gives them some money. He tells Circe she should thank José for what he’s doing. He’s helping her because José had his mother killed, and the only reason he got mixed up with them in the first place was to provide for his mother. However, Deivid refuses to tell Circe where to find Diego.

At the apartment Disgusto tries to get Diana to cook for him. She refuses, and tells him he’s just a guest. He gets right in her face and tells her he owns the place.

Diego is helping Ricas with his homework and then tries to reason with Amanda. He tells her he’s not going to ever hurt her mother, and he’ll do everything in his power to get along with Ricas and with Amanda because he knows this will make Isabel happy. This doesn’t move the ball for Amanda at all.

Porfi goes to the police station and meets with a rather condescending desk cop. He’s come to remove his complaint against Isabel for having taken his children without his permission. He also wants to remove the complaint about Diego having hit him. The first one can be done, but the cop says the other one is too difficult.

Isa takes Amanda aside for her rude behavior. Amanda says she’s upset because her mother promised they’d live together, just the three of them. Isa tells her: Me enamoré. But Amanda isn’t going to budge, at least not yet.

Marlene and Diana talk about what Disgusto said to Diana; i.e., he owns the apartment. Diana is disappointed in her big sister. But when Marlene’s eyes well up with tears about how she thought he’d never leave his wife and now it’s happening, Diana tells her she’ll try to get along.

Jim meets with some possible investors in Babel. Ramona, of course, eavesdrops on the conversation.

When Isa is ready to leave for Babel, Diego wants to come along and “meet the guys who run the place”. She refuses, and accuses him of being more jealous than Corona. He says she’s his; and she says she’s not his. She is an independent woman, and Jim is her boss.

Zoraida and Salas have given Fernanda something to make her sleep. They agree she can’t be left alone. Salas goes into Fernanda’s bedroom, gently strokes her hair, and we see that he’s loved her with no hope for years.

The doctor says they’ll have to operate on José; and, of course, with all that cartel money, it’s no problem to bring everything he needs.
 

FALSA IDENTIDAD, Capítulo 20, Parte 3 de 3

Circe tells Felipa about her auntie. She also says that, in this business, what matters is blood.

When Disgusto notices that Marlene had been crying, he tells her he had years of years from his wife, and he doesn’t want to see them from her, only happiness. He also tells her that, now he’s living with her, he doesn’t want her to work at Babel any more. Marlene, upset, insists that she loves her work. Mr. Nasty: One thing is your being una piruja de alguien (somebody’s whore) and quite another that person’s mujer. She’s now his mujer.

Ramona calls Piochas to say that Jim is looking for a partner. Piochas doesn’t have time for her problems; he’s dealing with José. He tells her to figure it out.

Isa tells Marlene about Diego wanting to come to the club with her and her fear that someone from the cartel would see him. Marlene tells Isa about Disgusto wanting her to quit.

Mateo tries to make nice with Porfirio. Porfirio has had a major change in his attitude since he found out about his mother’s murder. Mateo wonders why he dropped the charges, and Porfi says that Isabel has rights. And he treated her badly because he believed his father’s words about women being unfaithful and leaving men. Porfi says he didn’t trust her. He now wants to look for his wife and children and try to do things the right way.

Ramona is gathering up money and jewelry, but decides it’s not nearly enough.

Well, whoever said that Ramona would be the relative of Circe in DF was right on! Ramona is the sister of Circe’s mother, the one who died shortly after giving birth. She’s not the sister of Gavino. It turns out Ramona has a heart, at least when it comes to Circe. Circe tells her that the cartel has a price on her head.

Ramona says they should hope José doesn’t survive. Because otherwise they might end up chupando faros. [Excellent idiom, and a new one for me! During the Mexican revolution, they used to give the ones up against the wall a last cigarette, and the most common brand was Faros. So…sucking on or smoking their last cigarette.]

Deivid calls Diego. He needs to run from Sonora and needs help. Diego arranges for him to stay in the pensión where Chucho lives.

After the show at Babel, the other women, except Paloma of course, compliment Isabel on how well she’s dancing now.

Whoops! Disgusto shows up and walks right into the women’s dressing room. He turns to Isa. ¿Y tú eres…?
 

Identidad

Many thanks, novelera, for a wonderfully complete and helpful recap. I found tonight's episode rather hard to understand. Your recap made it all make sense snd provided me with some much needed Spanish vocabulary.

I'm writing this from my tablet, so I won't say much more. I did notice the parallels between Isa's situation and Marlene's. Isa tells Diego that no, he shouldn't come to Babel to watch her dance, and no, she is not his, she's an independent woman. Similarly, Marlene tells Disgusto that he shouldn't come to Babel, and when he tells her that she's his woman now and she should stop dancing, she tells him that she loves dancing and doesn't want to stop. The two scenes tonight were seemingly similar, but in fact the two men are in fact VERY different.
 

Identidad

wow, that was a great recap novelera!

when Isabel was telling Diego he couldn't come to watch her dance, I forgot about her making the connection that the cartel runs Babel, hmm, she also is withholding this info from Diego.

interesting that Isa must be making really good money while Diego is making peanuts cleaning offices all day and taking care of the kids at night, considering that he once had a nice house (that was blown up) and everything you could want, I wonder how long this will last.

and where will Fernanda go when they kick her out?

novelera, loved how you pointed out her embarrassment at failing to kill herself, "in front of the help".

Porfi was teasing us with his trip to the police station and maybe turning in his dad, but didn't he ask the cop not to tell Mateos, and as soon as Mateos gets home he asks about dropping the complaint against Isa.

Disgusto walked right past the line to get in at Babel, saying hi to the doorman along the way, he must be well known there, he bumps into Isa but how long before he sees Circe, although Ramona warned her about being at Babel, and Ramona hiding Circe is a twist.

your comments novelera on the spanish are most interesting, I put "chupando faros" into google translate and came up with "sucking headlights".

Juanita, interesting the parallels between Isa and Marlene that you pointed out.

 

Identidad--
Fabulous, novelera. I was right there with you all the way. Thank you for the play by play. Like Juanita, I had trouble understanding all the dialog since they bleeped out so much and used so many idioms. I was lucky on Friday! I love chupando faros.

The big surprise for me last night was that Diego is going to bunk with Chucho--or at least in the same pension. It won't be long, will it, before Disgusto runs into Diego--the only one he knows from "back home."

Juanita--Yes, eerie parallels between Isa/Diego and Marly/Disiggy. However, I think Diego understood Isa. He admitted he has a lot to learn about relationships. His only role models have been Disgusto and the Gaona cartel men--and I didn't see a single one who would treat a woman with respect and care. Furthermore, Isa has nothing more to lose except her job. Marly has everything to lose if she doesn't buckle under.

His interactions with Diana were even more disgusting. She was probably at the front door of the apartment building when he drove up. He wouldn't know where she went to school or what time she got out, but still...He treats both women like the servants he was used to ordering around at home. I would love to see how Fernanda could be married to him for so long and not see that condescending, misogynist side of him.
 

identidad

Thanks all.

Anita, maybe it's the two names beginning with a "D", but the one who is going to be bunking with Chucho is Deivid, not Diego.

I'm pretty sure Disgusto didn't treat Fernanda much better. In the very first introductory scene to his character, he snarled at her when she brought coffee into the room where Eliseo, Salas and Disgusto were discussing sending federales after the huachicoleros (before they knew Diego was the ringleader).
 

Identidad
Thanks, novelera--You are correct. I typed Diego, but I saw Deivid in my mind's eye. (I think he is a better-looking galan than Diego...)
 

identidad

Deb, about the scene with Fernanda sobbing. I actually meant that she was so miserable that she wasn't even embarrassed about sobbing uncontrollably in front of her employees, not that she was embarrassed about the suicide attempt. She had seemed so dignified and under control up until that point.

And she was pretty self-righteous when she fired Zoraida.

I suspect we're about to see a new, reformed Fernanda as she tries to cope with not being a privileged person any more.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Novelera.

Salas goes into Fernanda’s bedroom, gently strokes her hair, and we see that he’s loved her with no hope for years.

Salas is a fine men, but it got a little creepy when he was moving in for a kiss on the lips. A kiss on the forehead would've been better for that scene.

This cartel never read "How to Make Friends & Influence People." Absolutely no reason for these guys to be loyal to each other. Jose expecting to keep Deivid in line by killing his mother. Unbelievable. Now Deivid has nothing to lose.

If Isa worked at Target, I don't think Diego would've made a big deal about meeting the guys she works with. At Babel, some customers get drunk, others get handsy, and one even tried to rape Marlene.

Don't know what's worse, Disgusto's arrogance or Marlene's putting up with it.

Am I mistaken that Zoraida is Marlene's mother? Trying to figure out why Zoraida doesn't ask about Diana.
 

Identidad--
Niecie--good barb about the cartel never reading that book. Do they even read, I wonder. Jose killed Deivid's mother to punish him--but the end game was the same, to keep him in line.

Oh, and Zoraida is Marlene's aunt.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Anita. I'm still foggy on who knows whom.

So Ramona has a soft side, at least for Circe. Felipa seemed put off by the closeness between Ramona and Circe. I can't tell whether it was jealousy, or if she could feel Ramona's evil.
 

identidad

Niecie, good question about Felipa's feelings. I assumed that she was jealous of the closeness between Ramona and Circe. It never occurred to me that she might sense Ramona's evil, but I really like that idea.
 

identidad

I will do a recap of tonight's (Tuesday's) episode. As usual, it will be posted quite late.
 

Falsa identidad - Capítulo 21 - Parte 1 de 3

Marlene introduces Camila to Disgusto. He tells Marlene that he'll meet her in the bar. He thought she'd already have spoken to her boss (about quitting). After he leaves, Camila/Isa expresses her surprise at how old he is. "He could be your father!" Moreover, "He came to control you, don't you realize that?" She advises Marlene that she shouldn't give up what she loves, her career. Marlene defends Disgusto, saying he's a good man, the man of her life. She says she'll explain how much she loves her career, and he'll probably understand. But if she has to choose between career and Disgusto, she'll choose Disgusto. [All Viewerville screams in unison, "NO NO NO!"]

José is lying in bed, in pain, recovering from being shot. He asks Piochas how long he has been here. Piochas tells him he arrived yesterday, all bloody. José fears that Diego has probably left Alamos by now. But there still may be time to grab him. He tells Piochas they should kidnap Fernanda, and that way they'll draw in Diego.

Fernanda meanwhile is telling Zoraida that no, she won't ask for Diego's help. "You know what kind of relationship I've had with him." Zoraida replies that Diego is the only family Fernanda has. Fernanda tells her that in some ways, Diego was right. "I made many errors with regard to him. I didn't help him, didn't support him. But it wasn't because I didn't love him. I felt that he didn't need me." She asks Zoraida, "Do you know what it is for a mother to feel her child doesn't need her?" "No, señora," replies Zoraida. I'm guessing that Zoraida has no children, and it was an insensitive question to ask her.

Isa is getting the kids ready for school. Where's Diego? Ricas tells her that Diego left while she was bathing. He said he had something important to do at work.

The important thing Diego had to do is get Deivid together with Chucho, who has offered to let Deivid stay with him. Diego tells Deivid that he doesn't want to get mixed up again in illegal stuff. He's promised his woman (mi morra) he wouldn't do it. Deivid is surprised that Diego has a woman he cares for that much. Diego insists that he's serious, that it's love.

Circe thinks it's love, too: her love for Diego. She talks with Ramona and Felipa. Felipa again advises her to forget Diego. Circe tells her she doesn't want anyone else. And how else would she live? No way will she live dependent on Gavino. Felipa starts to tell her that the cards say...but Circe angrily cuts her off. She goes over to Felipa and pushes the cards away. Felipa yells "Don't touch them! It's bad luck." Circe then speaks to Ramona about contacts they have in Mexico City.

Piochas and two or three of his fellow thugs arrive at Fernanda's house. They apparently shoot one of the men guarding the house. Fernanda and Zoraida hear a gunshot. A startled and frightened Fernanda drops her coffee cup on the floor. Salas enters, gun drawn. He tellsFernanda and Zoraida that he's called the police, and he urges the two women to go out the back door. Fernanda rightly thinks that the thugs want to grab her in order to get at Diego. Salas gives Fernanda the car keys. He tells them to get into the car and be ready to drive off as he distracts the thugs. Salas shoots one of the thugs, as Fernanda and Zoraida start to drive off. Salas is shot. Fernanda stops the car. Another thug rushes up to the car and orders the women out of the car at gunpoint. But Salas, though wounded, manages to shoot the guy who was trying to get the women out of the car. Now they drive off again, and when yet another thug stands in the road to stop them, they run him over and keep going. Piochas then shoots Salas and he crumples on the ground.
 

Falsa Identidad - Cap. 21 - Parte 2 de 3

Diego and Chucho are talking and joking when suddenly their boss appears. He tells Diego that he'll have to stay extra hours to clean the second floor and the windows. Diego first says he can't, that he has to pick up his kids at school. The boss says he should tell his wife to do so. Diego then says he'll do the extra hours as long as the boss gives him back the money he took from him. The boss refuses. Churcho tries to support Diego. The boss calls him "Indio" and tells him to stay out of this. Diego is enraged at the boss's calling Chucho "Indio" (which means Indian but can also be quite offensive and mean "country bumpkin, boor, yokel" according to WordReference.com). Diego grabs the boss and insists that he apologize to Chucho. The boss threatens to call the police. Diego says fine, go ahead, and the boss then fires both Diego and Chucho. A desperate Chucho pleads with the boss, telling him the family depends on his earnings. The boss is adamant: they're both fired. Chucho then turns his anger on Diego. "Why did you do this? It took me months to get this job. What can I do now?" Chucho storms off.

Ramona tells Jim that he's not wise to be looking for new investors. Jim explains that if Gavino doesn't communicate with him, he has to find investors so that he can pay the dancers and Babel can continue. Ramona tells him not to be a hero. She leaves, and Jim asks Paloma to tell Camila to see him in his office. [Is this dumb or dumber?]

Porfirio talks with his lawyer. He acknowledges that he has withdrawn his lawsuit (demanda) against Isabel. The lawyer is puzzled, since she ran off with another man. Porfirio says she went with him because he brainwashed her. Now that Porfirio has changed, he wants to get his family back and treat them better. He won't need the lawyer's services, but he does ask a favor. Porfirio is thinking of moving to Mexico City. He knows that the lawyer has contacts there, and he asks the lawyer to introduce him to someone there who can give him work. [Uh oh]

With Paloma listening unseen outside Jim's office door (which of course isn't completely closed), Jim tells "Camila" that he wants to create a new dance, with her. Camila is surprised and pleased, but she tells him that others are more experienced. Jim responds, "But I imagined this dance for you." An enraged Paloma bursts into the office. "I knew it!" she exclaims. "You've never offered something like this for me!" Paloma tells him "I quit!" and she leaves his office. She goes to pack her things and tells the other girls that Jim has offered Camila a new dance, even though he's never made such an offer to any of them. Paloma tells them Jim did this por patiabierta which the dictionary defines as "bow-legged" but I wonder whether in this case she may be saying that Camila's legs were open.

Circe and Felipa come to see the narco guy in Mexico City. Circe tells him she wants to propose a business deal. "I know you want to have your own merchandise. I have all the contacts." The head narco, whose name may or may not be Brandon, tells Circe "to have your own drugs and your own business is every narco's dream. But it requires a big investment. Do you have any money?" Circe admits that she doesn't, but her contacts are valuable. Brandon (?) tells her, "This business is for women with lots of money, Circe." He then makes her an offer: "You can't be my socio, but you could be my employee--and more." Circe tells him that she wasn't born to be anyone's employee. And she chooses who she has sex with. She then throws her drink in his face and leaves.
 

Falsa Identidad - Cap. 21 - Parte 3 de 3

Mateo and several other policemen finally arrive at Fernanda's. Mateo asks about Salas, who is being put in an ambulance. His condition, of course, is grave. Mateo then tells one of the other policemen to go back into the house and take another look for Fernanda. "If you see her, tell me." As soon as the policeman goes off, Mateo calls Piochas. Piochas is driving. He tells Mateo in frustration that la ruca (the old woman, presumably Fernanda) got away. Mateo tells him that what he, Piochas, has to do now is get away and hide. When Salas called, Mateo was able to stall, but now he can't.

Zoraida takes Fernanda to her place. Fernanda looks around at Zoraida's home and says, "You've worked hard and have succeeded. In contrast, I'm no one. I have nothing and know how to do nothing. Zoraida tells Fernanda she has to keep moving forward, she mustn't give up.

Camila tries to talk with Paloma, but Paloma has no interest in talking with her. She says to Camila, "Jim didn't tell you that we were novios, did he? We were, for years."

Marlene talks to Jim about the situation with Paloma and Camila. She asks Jim whether he offered a new dance to Camila because she has talent or because she reminds Jim of his ex-wife. And oh, by the way, Marlene says, "I too was thinking of retiring."

Piochas tells José that he doesn't believe the Colombians shot him. It was either Circe or Diego. Under some pressure, José admits to Piochas that Circe shot him. Piochas then tells him that Deivid has left, and no one knows where he is. José wants him dead. He wants no more traitors in the cartel. He tells a somewhat distrusting Piochas that the two of them (José and Piochas) are on the same side. "We want to see Circe dead and Gavino free." [Liar, liar, pants on fire]

Deivid waits outside Babel for Marlene. She's surprised to see him. He tells her that he doesn't want anything more to do with the cartel. She has been his inspiration to turn his life around. It's clear that he wants and perhaps expects that she and he will get together. She makes it clear that that's not going to happen. She has a relationship with someone else. She kisses Deivid and tells him to take care of himself. [I expected Disgusto to suddenly appear, but he didn't]

José talks by phone with Ramona. He tells her that they have to keep moving the drugs and the girls, and he has to launder the money. Oh, and by the way, do you know anything about Circe, he asks.

Gavino's lawyer comes to see him There's good news: the lawyer has succeeded in preventing Gavino's extradition to the United States. But there's also bad news: Gavino is likely to be facing a 30-year prison term. [End of episode]
 

identidad

One thing I had intended to include in the recap but seem to have accidentally left out is that late in the episode Zoraida makes two phone calls. She first calls Diego, but when he sees who the call is from, he decides not to answer it. She then calls Isa, who does answer. A distraught Zoraida tells Isa "The narcos are back, they almost killed Salas, and they're after Fernanda. You and Diego have to help me get her out of Alamos."
 

identidad

Thanks so much, Juanita. Terrific, thorough recap!

I thought Disgusto held Isa's hand a bit too long and stared at her a bit too greedily.

Fernanda is probably going to go the distance and be redeemed. But her remarks about Diego being independent and not needing her bothered me a lot. That's a really warped idea of motherhood: that your child has to lean on you for everything and be dependent for you to be a good mother. She did admit her mistake but also seemed to me to be trying to justify the distance between them.

What Jim suggested was returning to dance himself and doing choreography for a dance with the two of them as partners. He apparently was a dancer in Las Vegas, and he said "Camilä" had inspired him to get back to that. This is what really infuriated Paloma. He's never wanted to dance with her. However, I don't think the guys who pay big bucks to come to Babel are interested in seeing an "artistic" dance that includes a man.

Actually Diego and Circe would sort of be compatible. They both have a compulsion to spit in the eye of authority figures. Except of course, that this could be too combustible.

Diego really did mess up Chucho's life. He was right, of course, about the grasping boss, but I suspect people willing to do what they do abound in DF, and he will be able to easily replace them.

I'm hoping Diego, Deivid, and Chucho can come up with some legitimate way to earn money.
 

identidad

Thanks very much, novelera, for your appreciative remarks and great comments. You're right, Fernanda seems headed for redemption but is still far from there. The fact that she recognizes her mistakes is a good sign.

I was and am somewhat mystified by Jim's plans. It wasn't at all clear to me where intends this new, as yet uncreated dance to be performed. I agree completely with your feeling that the big bucks Babel crowd wouldn't be the most receptive audience, but to perform it anywhere else would make it difficult for him to continue at Babel. And if that's the case, what are we to make of his professed loyalty to and concern for the Babel dancers? Is he so besotted with "Camila" that he can't think straight?

I too would love to see Diego, Deivid, and Chucho come up with a legit way to make money. However, I'm having a hard time imagining what Diego and Deivid can do that will prevent them from being tracked down by the cartel.
 

"EL RECLUSO":

Novelera: Looks like we're NOT getting a happy ending.
 

Identidad

Disgusto was pretty pervy in this one. He told Diana she smelled bad after a workout she’d done and wanted her to take a shower. I got the impression it was to peek. And he pointedly asked about “Camila”. Maybe he wants Marlene to take Fernanda’s place and “Camila” as the side woman.

Augusto visits Ramona and hints he wants to invest.

Later Ramona tells Circe she should get the $ from Augusto since she has the contacts. [But wouldn’t raising her profile put her in danger from José and or Gavino.]

Speaking of Gavino, he got stabbed in the shower and is, of course, muy grave.

Fernanda has come a long way off her high horse. She asks Zoraida to not call her Señora any more. And she also wants Zoraida to tutearla.

Diego tries construction, bartending, and, I think, one other place to find work. He isn’t having any luck.

Deivid talks with Chucho. I think Deivid wants to get back to the easy money, but Diego wants to stay on the straight and narrow. He comes right out with it: Me enamoré

Sometimes Isabel does things that make me scream at the television. Yes, she told Zoraida to put Fernanda on a plane. But she didn’t tell Diego in advance; she just sprang his mother on him. [Perhaps bratty Amanda has lost the room Diego and Ricas were fixing up for her.]

Mateo gave Porfirio a check for $6K pesos to finish the bathroom repair. Porfi altered it to $36K. But he doesn't manage to get out of the house with his suitcase before Mateo comes back.

That’s about all I remember.
 

identidad--

novelera, that was about all that was worth remembering. You did it well. Thank you.

Marlene talked Disgusto into letting her keep her job. He's probably thinking that will give him more time to "seduce" Diana and Camila. I think he already knows Diana will be difficult and may have to use force...

Jose is sure walking a thin line between wanting Gavino dead and pretending he doesn't. Piochas isn't stupid.

Has anyone noticed that Circe, who has very full lips, is the only female that wears very dark red lipstick? All the others look more natural, even Marlene, Paloma, Isa, Ramona, Fernanda and of course, Zoraida.

I was a bit surprised that Zoraida was able to switch to "tu" so quickly. Being in someone's service for so long might have had a little trouble doing it.

It was sort of cute when Felipa accused Ramona of using Gavino's money for "surgery" and Ramona got all up in her face that her bazoooms where hers.

I'm pondering--same scenes--when Ramona was telling Circe that blood was more important than any other connection and she touched her belly--if Circe isn't HER child. Circe did state that her father never wanted her and never treated her like he did.
 

identidad--

Oh, another little clip, Jose called Ramona while Circe was near. He was checking on Gaona things, but asked if she knew where Circe was. Ramona said she only knew that she had disappeared. Makes me think that blood tie is pretty strong.

Yes, Augusto has money and no contacts; Circe has contacts and no money. Perfect match.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Juanita, Novelera, and Anita.

While Camila (Isa) is no patiabierta [thanks, Juanita], I agree with Jim's ex-squeeze dancer. Camila has shown no great talent or passion for dancing to earn her own featured duet.

Anita, I have noticed Circe's bold lipstick. Girl definitely hangs onto her favorite shade while she's getting kidnapped and going on the run.

Ramona has a beautiful home, built on the backs of those poor enslaved girls.

I know it's only TV, but the prison shower shanking of Gavino was chilling. But this does get him out of a cell.
 

identidad

Thanks, Niecie and Anita, for the added information. Yes, Piochas is not dumb and is very suspicious of José. José is about to have a problem because Gavino asked the lawyer Sebastian to tell José to break him out. He will have to recover from his wounds, but José is going to look increasingly suspicious if he doesn't arrange something for Gavino.
 

identidad

Great comments/insights, novelera, Anita, and Niecie. Novelera, I too thought Disgusto was openly pervy with Diana, and, like you, I assumed he wanted her to take a shower so he could spy on her.

I was rather surprised that Isa arranged for Fernanda to come without saying anything to Diego. She says to her mirror the old saw about its being better to ask forgiveness than permission, but I thought what she did was inconsiderate and stupid, and perhaps not something easily forgiven. It also seemed out of character for her.

Anita, I loved the scene where Felipa accuses Ramona of using Gavino's money for "surgery." That scene and others also made me wonder what Felipa's relation to Circe is. Is that one of the many things I've forgotten?

Niecie, I so agree with what you say about the legitimacy of Paloma's anger. I've never been persuaded that Camila has any special talent for dance. Thus, it has always seemed clear that Jim's high esteem for her lies somewhere other than in her dance skills. Probably Marlene is right when she says Camila reminds Jim of his ex.

Two more thoughts. I was surprised that Fernanda didn't try at all to change her appearance before going to the airport. Also, though José is playing a dangerous game of supporting and undermining Gavino, I think he suggests one way that might work. He can seem to be arranging for Gavino to escape from the jail, but also have him murdered by assassins' bullets when he does so.
 

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Juanita, I have assumed Felipa was Circe's nanny. Since her mother died after giving birth, she would have needed someone to care for her. I don't really think Felipa is her bio mother. Gavino was pretty clear about whose child she was when he accused her of poisoning his wife's womb when she was in there.

In early scenes Circe called Felipa Nana, and maybe she still does. I just haven't noticed. And, certainly, Gavino couldn't just call up a legit agency to send a fully qualified nanny to come to the narco ranch and be exposed to all the dirty dealings.

Felipa apparently believes in and uses brujería so she'd be just shady enough to be perfect for Gavino.
 

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Thanks muchly, novelera, for reminding me about what Gavino said to Circe. I recall being astonished at a father saying such a hateful thing to his child, and I guess I must have repressed it.