Monday, October 15, 2018
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Falsa Identidad, Señora Acero 5, y más: Week of October 15, 2018
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Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
- 9-10PM - Falsa Identidad
- 10-11PM - Señora Acero 5
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
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identidad
Busy, busy, busy. I'll put something up tonight, but it will be far less than a full recap.
Busy, busy, busy. I'll put something up tonight, but it will be far less than a full recap.
FALSA IDENTIDAD – LUNES
Circe is over the moon thinking Diego has come for her. But he tells her he’s only come to tell her it’s crazy to be in the drug business. Everyone in that racket has la pinche muerte respirando en la nuca (death breathing down your neck).
The other dancers notice the coolness between Marlene and Isabel. Paloma’s new boss is tough. When she’s late because of picking up her severance, he tells her if she’s late once more, bye bye.
Isabel tells Jim about the cartel being after her family and that she’ll have to quit. [I’m confused. At first I thought she quit; and then I thought she said she’d work until Diego got something stable. So, if anyone is clearer on this, chime in.] Also, Isa tells Jim that should he run into Diego, don’t tell him about the cartel owning Babel.
The big black SUV’s arrive at the hospital. Mateo, his officers, Piochas and some cartel guys put on ski masks. A big shootout happens in the hospital. Even innocent persons are shot. Bodies all over the hallways, and they don’t even get Gavino out.
Circe asks Diego if it’s true what José said: that he has another woman. He tells her yes.
Porfi sees Fernanda, Amanda, and Ricas enter the apartment. He talks to some guys on the street and finds out that the Guevara live there.
After Diego tells Circe he’s with someone else, she tells him he’ll be back begging on his knees for her body and she’ll make the other woman suffer 10 times more than she did.
Isabel tells Marlene that Marlene doesn’t need to leave Babel; the cartel will protect her (because of Augusto) (Ouch!).
The dancer with the eating disorder comes to Ramona about getting surgery on her non-existent stomach. Ramona gives her some some methamphetamine meta crystal.
Corona shows up at Isabel’s apartment. Daddy’s girl goes right to him. Ricas refuses.
Circe asks Ramona for the use of 15 of the girls who work as prostitutes. Ramona says something about some guy who makes them fall in love first and then brings them here.
Ramona isn’t happy about it until she hears about the money.
Sebastian has to confess to Piochas about playing both sides. Piochas hears that José paid the lawyer money to keep Gavino inside and that he wants him dead. Piochas shoots Sebastian in the head.
Deivid, Diego, and Chucho go to some deserted place and are successful in their efforts to steal gasoline.
Fernanda takes the children away so Porfirio and Isabel can talk. He tries his best to convince her he’s changed. But Isabel flat out tells him she’s in love with Diego. Corona then asks to spend time with his children, and she agrees.
Meanwhile Ricas has called Diego from his mother’s phone. Amanda tells Fernanda it’s her fault that her parents are upset with each other [??]. Fernanda assures her none of it is her fault.
Disgusto comes home, sees Diana in her undies through an open door. [Sheesh, Diana, shut the blasted door! No telling when Pervo may show up.] This inspires the jerk to want sex with Marlene, who arrives home in time to save Diana. We’re spared the details of Marlene coupling with Disgusto.
José has a gun pointed at Piochas. He found out from TV about the rescue attempt. So far, Piochas hasn’t said anything about José’s double-crossing the boss.
Mateo, shrewd as always, talks with some police officers and bemoans the corrupt officers who betrayed him.
Circe gives a sales talk to the young women who work for Ramona. They’re all in.
Corona is drinking. He’s NOT happy about not getting Chabela back. He calls his father to say that he knows where Fernanda and Diego are.
Circe is over the moon thinking Diego has come for her. But he tells her he’s only come to tell her it’s crazy to be in the drug business. Everyone in that racket has la pinche muerte respirando en la nuca (death breathing down your neck).
The other dancers notice the coolness between Marlene and Isabel. Paloma’s new boss is tough. When she’s late because of picking up her severance, he tells her if she’s late once more, bye bye.
Isabel tells Jim about the cartel being after her family and that she’ll have to quit. [I’m confused. At first I thought she quit; and then I thought she said she’d work until Diego got something stable. So, if anyone is clearer on this, chime in.] Also, Isa tells Jim that should he run into Diego, don’t tell him about the cartel owning Babel.
The big black SUV’s arrive at the hospital. Mateo, his officers, Piochas and some cartel guys put on ski masks. A big shootout happens in the hospital. Even innocent persons are shot. Bodies all over the hallways, and they don’t even get Gavino out.
Circe asks Diego if it’s true what José said: that he has another woman. He tells her yes.
Porfi sees Fernanda, Amanda, and Ricas enter the apartment. He talks to some guys on the street and finds out that the Guevara live there.
After Diego tells Circe he’s with someone else, she tells him he’ll be back begging on his knees for her body and she’ll make the other woman suffer 10 times more than she did.
Isabel tells Marlene that Marlene doesn’t need to leave Babel; the cartel will protect her (because of Augusto) (Ouch!).
The dancer with the eating disorder comes to Ramona about getting surgery on her non-existent stomach. Ramona gives her some some methamphetamine meta crystal.
Corona shows up at Isabel’s apartment. Daddy’s girl goes right to him. Ricas refuses.
Circe asks Ramona for the use of 15 of the girls who work as prostitutes. Ramona says something about some guy who makes them fall in love first and then brings them here.
Ramona isn’t happy about it until she hears about the money.
Sebastian has to confess to Piochas about playing both sides. Piochas hears that José paid the lawyer money to keep Gavino inside and that he wants him dead. Piochas shoots Sebastian in the head.
Deivid, Diego, and Chucho go to some deserted place and are successful in their efforts to steal gasoline.
Fernanda takes the children away so Porfirio and Isabel can talk. He tries his best to convince her he’s changed. But Isabel flat out tells him she’s in love with Diego. Corona then asks to spend time with his children, and she agrees.
Meanwhile Ricas has called Diego from his mother’s phone. Amanda tells Fernanda it’s her fault that her parents are upset with each other [??]. Fernanda assures her none of it is her fault.
Disgusto comes home, sees Diana in her undies through an open door. [Sheesh, Diana, shut the blasted door! No telling when Pervo may show up.] This inspires the jerk to want sex with Marlene, who arrives home in time to save Diana. We’re spared the details of Marlene coupling with Disgusto.
José has a gun pointed at Piochas. He found out from TV about the rescue attempt. So far, Piochas hasn’t said anything about José’s double-crossing the boss.
Mateo, shrewd as always, talks with some police officers and bemoans the corrupt officers who betrayed him.
Circe gives a sales talk to the young women who work for Ramona. They’re all in.
Corona is drinking. He’s NOT happy about not getting Chabela back. He calls his father to say that he knows where Fernanda and Diego are.
identidad
Great job, novelera. You really captured everything important.
Like you, I was confused about what Isa said to Jim. First, she tells him she should say nothing to Diego about the Gaona cartel being the owners of Babel because she needs the work in order to support the family, then she says the Gaona cartel are hunting for her and that's why she can't continue to work at Babel. I think your explanation that she'll work until Diego gets something stable explains why she isn't quitting right away, but her two earlier statements still seem contradictory.
That wasn't the only thing that confused me. When Paloma arrives late and the boss isn't pleased, I had the feeling the place she was entering was some kind of restaurant. That made me think that she had lied about getting hired at the high-class dance place, and that she was really doing something like being a waitress at a restaurant. Probably I'm way off here, but....
I also didn't understand why Circe wanted 15 of the girls from Babel. I know she said that she hadn't succeeded in getting Deivid or Diego to join her new cartel, but did she want the 15 girls to do what she had assumed men would do, i.e., bring the drugs across the border?
When Diego and Deivid succeed in drilling a hole in the pipeline carrying gasoline and the gasoline comes gushing out, was it just on my TV that it was colored pink/red?
Wow, it's sure a good thing that I didn't try to recap this episode!
Great job, novelera. You really captured everything important.
Like you, I was confused about what Isa said to Jim. First, she tells him she should say nothing to Diego about the Gaona cartel being the owners of Babel because she needs the work in order to support the family, then she says the Gaona cartel are hunting for her and that's why she can't continue to work at Babel. I think your explanation that she'll work until Diego gets something stable explains why she isn't quitting right away, but her two earlier statements still seem contradictory.
That wasn't the only thing that confused me. When Paloma arrives late and the boss isn't pleased, I had the feeling the place she was entering was some kind of restaurant. That made me think that she had lied about getting hired at the high-class dance place, and that she was really doing something like being a waitress at a restaurant. Probably I'm way off here, but....
I also didn't understand why Circe wanted 15 of the girls from Babel. I know she said that she hadn't succeeded in getting Deivid or Diego to join her new cartel, but did she want the 15 girls to do what she had assumed men would do, i.e., bring the drugs across the border?
When Diego and Deivid succeed in drilling a hole in the pipeline carrying gasoline and the gasoline comes gushing out, was it just on my TV that it was colored pink/red?
Wow, it's sure a good thing that I didn't try to recap this episode!
identidad
Speaking of my recapping, I will be out tomorrow night and so I won't be able to do a Tuesday recap. I'll try to do something for Thursday's episode, probably along the lines of what novelera did tonight.
Speaking of my recapping, I will be out tomorrow night and so I won't be able to do a Tuesday recap. I'll try to do something for Thursday's episode, probably along the lines of what novelera did tonight.
identidad--
novelera--you did capture everything important, even the confusion...thank you.
Paloma did lie. She was ordered by the boss to start cleaning, so it sounds as if it is even more menial than waitressing.
When the shooting in the hospital was over, it was Mateo's fellow policemen he had recruited who had died. Piochas told him earlier he needed 10 more men besides the ones he had from the loyal cartel. Mateo said he didn't know any. Piochas reminded him he was the chief of police and to get some of his men. He wasn't happy about that, nor participating. No wonder he had to make up an excuse.
Pink gasoline, indeed. That would be transmission fluid in the States. In fact, I didn't know car-ready gasoline was piped. I thought unrefined oil was piped to refineries and that, in turn, was shipped out in tanks on rail or truck. But someone set me straight.
I wasn't surprised Mandy went straight to papi.
Circe is now a woman scorned. Poor Isa--she'll have everybody hunting for her, including Disgusto and Ramona before this is over.
Juanita--unless novelera wants two days in a row, I can try my hand at a recap tonight. I sure hope I understand what happens....
novelera--you did capture everything important, even the confusion...thank you.
Paloma did lie. She was ordered by the boss to start cleaning, so it sounds as if it is even more menial than waitressing.
When the shooting in the hospital was over, it was Mateo's fellow policemen he had recruited who had died. Piochas told him earlier he needed 10 more men besides the ones he had from the loyal cartel. Mateo said he didn't know any. Piochas reminded him he was the chief of police and to get some of his men. He wasn't happy about that, nor participating. No wonder he had to make up an excuse.
Pink gasoline, indeed. That would be transmission fluid in the States. In fact, I didn't know car-ready gasoline was piped. I thought unrefined oil was piped to refineries and that, in turn, was shipped out in tanks on rail or truck. But someone set me straight.
I wasn't surprised Mandy went straight to papi.
Circe is now a woman scorned. Poor Isa--she'll have everybody hunting for her, including Disgusto and Ramona before this is over.
Juanita--unless novelera wants two days in a row, I can try my hand at a recap tonight. I sure hope I understand what happens....
Falsa Identidad, Tuesday Oct 16, 2018, Chapter 27
Part 1 of 4
*Joselito has just shot the lawyer. He turns his attention to Piochas and beats him up, asking, “Who’s the boss?” He tells Piochas he has to find Diego and Circe. If not, Piochas may suffer the same fate as the lawyer.
*Porfi calls Mateo from his balcony, in between swigs of beer, and says he knows where the Hidalgos are. Mateo “doesn’t care,” he just wants Porfi home—his money will run out soon. Porfi hangs up on his dad and has switched to a big bottle of alcohol while remembering how Ricas rejected him and Isa told him she was with someone else.
*Isa and Diego discuss their discovery by Porfi. Isa is afraid Porfi will go to the police. Amanda silently listens at the door.
*Ramona wants Circe to be gone. She’s not happy Circe is using her gals. She’s afraid once Joselito finds out he’ll cut off her “salary.” Circe is confident that by the time José finds out about the girls, he’ll have no cartel and no money.
*Diego buys his ma a bed. Fer begins to see the good in him. She wants to take some of the credit. He says any good in him is due to his own bootstraps and what he learned on the streets, thank you very much. He tells her not to get too comfy because soon she’ll be leaving, each to live their own lives.
*Nuria la Anorexia breaks into the stash of pills Ramona gave her.
*Isa is leaving the club after the performance. She has come to tell the other dancers goodbye.
*Amanda continues to act bratty toward Diego.
*The same evening, Diana drives by with a bunch of her friends and picks up Chucho. She teases him about his outfit—did he steal it from his father? Chucho is embarrassed, but goes with her. Her friends also tease him about not drinking. They persuade him to imbibe. He starts to cough. He starts to throw up and they stop to let him out. Sadly, his evening is not over yet.
*Circe sits with Jim and watches the Babel show. (Jim’s choreography seems to consist of skimpily clad dancing girls grinding and tossing their long hair.) She asks about one of the girls (Isa/Camila). After the show, we viewers can tell Nuria is high. Jim brings Circe in to meet everyone. She introduces herself as Felipa. She tries to recruit them for some non-show work. Jim tries to object. She wants to know Isa’s name. Isa answers Camila. Anorexy takes another pill. Ramona buys more drugs for her stash.
*Joselito keeps Piochas tied up. He interrogates him about the attempted hospital break—who went with him. Piochas says he contracted some men using his own cash, including a doctor and the lawyer. Piochas apologizes and offers to cooperate. Joselito bids him good night and leaves him there tied up.
Part 1 of 4
*Joselito has just shot the lawyer. He turns his attention to Piochas and beats him up, asking, “Who’s the boss?” He tells Piochas he has to find Diego and Circe. If not, Piochas may suffer the same fate as the lawyer.
*Porfi calls Mateo from his balcony, in between swigs of beer, and says he knows where the Hidalgos are. Mateo “doesn’t care,” he just wants Porfi home—his money will run out soon. Porfi hangs up on his dad and has switched to a big bottle of alcohol while remembering how Ricas rejected him and Isa told him she was with someone else.
*Isa and Diego discuss their discovery by Porfi. Isa is afraid Porfi will go to the police. Amanda silently listens at the door.
*Ramona wants Circe to be gone. She’s not happy Circe is using her gals. She’s afraid once Joselito finds out he’ll cut off her “salary.” Circe is confident that by the time José finds out about the girls, he’ll have no cartel and no money.
*Diego buys his ma a bed. Fer begins to see the good in him. She wants to take some of the credit. He says any good in him is due to his own bootstraps and what he learned on the streets, thank you very much. He tells her not to get too comfy because soon she’ll be leaving, each to live their own lives.
*Nuria la Anorexia breaks into the stash of pills Ramona gave her.
*Isa is leaving the club after the performance. She has come to tell the other dancers goodbye.
*Amanda continues to act bratty toward Diego.
*The same evening, Diana drives by with a bunch of her friends and picks up Chucho. She teases him about his outfit—did he steal it from his father? Chucho is embarrassed, but goes with her. Her friends also tease him about not drinking. They persuade him to imbibe. He starts to cough. He starts to throw up and they stop to let him out. Sadly, his evening is not over yet.
*Circe sits with Jim and watches the Babel show. (Jim’s choreography seems to consist of skimpily clad dancing girls grinding and tossing their long hair.) She asks about one of the girls (Isa/Camila). After the show, we viewers can tell Nuria is high. Jim brings Circe in to meet everyone. She introduces herself as Felipa. She tries to recruit them for some non-show work. Jim tries to object. She wants to know Isa’s name. Isa answers Camila. Anorexy takes another pill. Ramona buys more drugs for her stash.
*Joselito keeps Piochas tied up. He interrogates him about the attempted hospital break—who went with him. Piochas says he contracted some men using his own cash, including a doctor and the lawyer. Piochas apologizes and offers to cooperate. Joselito bids him good night and leaves him there tied up.
Falsa Identidad
Part 2 of 4
*Diana and friends have gone to a disco bar. Chucho gets quizzed by Diana—how many girlfriends has he had. Well, none. The conversation goes nowhere else. Chucho then catches sight of two guys making a drug exchange. He doesn’t think it’s right and says so. He’s not comfortable and tells Diana he’s going home. He tries to tell her this goes against his principles. She tries to get him to stay with her but he leaves the premises.
*Diego persuades Amanda to stay and talk to him after he finishes the dishes. She was doing her homework. He explains he’s not there to take her dad’s place, but something has to give. She thinks he’s just saying what he thinks she wants to hear. Well yes, he admits, but he assures her he’s not going to come between Amanda and her dad, but he’s not going anywhere, despite her protests that he’s not part of her family.
*Anorexy is smooching a customer. Isa interrupts. She’s curious about the guy. Nuria says she’s known him a long time—about 15 min. Isa is convinced something is wrong with her. Nuria tells Isa to bug off.
*Next morning Isa gets out of bed before Diego. Lots of kissy face. (I guess she’s going off to make breakfast because in the next scene they are sitting at the table together.)
*Mateo gets a visit from Piochas. (I guess Joselito released him in time for breakfast.) Piochas tells Mateo he had to take the beating to pretend he’s still loyal to José. He now has to find Diego and his ma in order to get back in José’s good graces. Mateo says he has information on the Hidalgos, but first there are new terms. Any girls he brings to Babel will be 50-50 and no one is to ever threaten his son again.
*Joselito conducts business with the drugger, who tells him how there are two new players in town. He “neglects” to mention Circe’s name, calling her Mama Chula and Disgusto.
*Disgusto inspects the girls (so many morsels, so little time, eh?) Circe has contracted. He observes they are pretty skinny. Circe appears from nowhere and pulls a gun on a guy messing with one of the girls and quickly pulls another gun on another guy. The drug guys retaliate. Disgusto talkes them down. Circe makes it clear to her new narco partner that she’s the boss. Ramona and Felipa both watch. Circe and the girls pack packets in their bras and thongs.
*Fernanda announces to Diego she’s going out to look for a job. Isa chides Diego for not making a better effort to get along with his ma.
*Porfi picks out a toy for Ricas. Mateo calls again and hands the phone to Piochas. Porfi tells him his wife and kids are with the Hidalgo guy and his ma. He gets Piochas to promise not to hurt them and then gives him the address. He has a smug Diego-out-of-the-way look on his face.
*Isa apologizes for walking in on Nuria and her 15 min. guy. Nuria doesn’t remember anything about the night before.
Part 2 of 4
*Diana and friends have gone to a disco bar. Chucho gets quizzed by Diana—how many girlfriends has he had. Well, none. The conversation goes nowhere else. Chucho then catches sight of two guys making a drug exchange. He doesn’t think it’s right and says so. He’s not comfortable and tells Diana he’s going home. He tries to tell her this goes against his principles. She tries to get him to stay with her but he leaves the premises.
*Diego persuades Amanda to stay and talk to him after he finishes the dishes. She was doing her homework. He explains he’s not there to take her dad’s place, but something has to give. She thinks he’s just saying what he thinks she wants to hear. Well yes, he admits, but he assures her he’s not going to come between Amanda and her dad, but he’s not going anywhere, despite her protests that he’s not part of her family.
*Anorexy is smooching a customer. Isa interrupts. She’s curious about the guy. Nuria says she’s known him a long time—about 15 min. Isa is convinced something is wrong with her. Nuria tells Isa to bug off.
*Next morning Isa gets out of bed before Diego. Lots of kissy face. (I guess she’s going off to make breakfast because in the next scene they are sitting at the table together.)
*Mateo gets a visit from Piochas. (I guess Joselito released him in time for breakfast.) Piochas tells Mateo he had to take the beating to pretend he’s still loyal to José. He now has to find Diego and his ma in order to get back in José’s good graces. Mateo says he has information on the Hidalgos, but first there are new terms. Any girls he brings to Babel will be 50-50 and no one is to ever threaten his son again.
*Joselito conducts business with the drugger, who tells him how there are two new players in town. He “neglects” to mention Circe’s name, calling her Mama Chula and Disgusto.
*Disgusto inspects the girls (so many morsels, so little time, eh?) Circe has contracted. He observes they are pretty skinny. Circe appears from nowhere and pulls a gun on a guy messing with one of the girls and quickly pulls another gun on another guy. The drug guys retaliate. Disgusto talkes them down. Circe makes it clear to her new narco partner that she’s the boss. Ramona and Felipa both watch. Circe and the girls pack packets in their bras and thongs.
*Fernanda announces to Diego she’s going out to look for a job. Isa chides Diego for not making a better effort to get along with his ma.
*Porfi picks out a toy for Ricas. Mateo calls again and hands the phone to Piochas. Porfi tells him his wife and kids are with the Hidalgo guy and his ma. He gets Piochas to promise not to hurt them and then gives him the address. He has a smug Diego-out-of-the-way look on his face.
*Isa apologizes for walking in on Nuria and her 15 min. guy. Nuria doesn’t remember anything about the night before.
Falsa Identidad
Part 3 AND 4 of 4
*Fernanda has sold her self as a regular cook, but she’ll have to learn how to make paninis. I missed it earlier, but Paloma IS a waitress at the same little restaurant. Her coworker notes that this walk-in seems to have gotten the job Paloma wanted. Paloma snarks that it matters not, once she gets a better job, she’s out of there.
*Chucho calls his ma from the patio at his apartment and begins to tell her about the wonky job he has. He assures her it’s not drugs. Before he knows it, Deivy jumps him before he can spill any more frijoles. Diego appears before Deivy chokes him. Deivy doesn’t think Chucho is trustworthy. Diego tells Deivy he is sure Chucho isn’t going to tell anyone. Diego turns to Chucho. Chucho tells Diego he realized they aren’t taking what belongs to them, but robbing. Diego says he was just trying to help him out with his family, but lets him leave the partnership without any recriminations. Chucho swears he won’t talk to anyone about it.
*Joselito plans his future with or without the Colombians. Piochas appears and hands him the address of the Hidalgos. José is off to the D.F. to settle some “business” with Disgusto and Mama Chula.
*Circe explains how the drugs are going to be moved. First they will all take different flights. Second, the drugs will be hidden among coffee beans to confuse the drug-sniffing dogs. (Amigos—this is true. It happened to me at BWI in August. I was taking fresh coffee beans to my daughter and had them in my carry-on luggage. I got stopped, the coffee wasn’t confiscated, but they did pull the packages out and swiped them with something. In retelling this incident to a fellow passenger, I was told it is a common way of moving drugs, inside packages of coffee, which confuses the dogs.) Circe cautions them. If one of them gets caught, there is NO snitching on the others.
*Isa picks up the kids from school and Porfi shows up bearing gifts for the kids and flowers for Isa. Isa explains that she and Porfi have agreed to let him see them more. They can go to the park with him. Amanda is ok with that, but Ricas holds back, so Isa goes with them. By the playground equipment, Porfi talks to Amanda—how he’s changing. He knows Isa hasn’t forgiven him, but he wonders if she could. She says she forgives him, even though Ricas hasn’t. Porfi suddenly collapses. (I wonder if he’s faking because he knows something is going to happen in the house and he wants to keep Isa and his kids safe.) Amanda calls out for Isa.
*Fer calls Zoe and tells her how she’s just been hired as a cook at a restaurant. Ooops, José already has her in his sights.
*At the airport security, Circe goes first and makes it through only to be stopped by someone who wants to look at her documents.
*Fer comes home without the kids. She barely has time to tell Diego she got a job when there is a Knock Knock at the door. Who’s There? No Answer. Too Bad. It’s Joselito and some Thugs when Diego opens the door. José waxes triumphant.
Part 3 AND 4 of 4
*Fernanda has sold her self as a regular cook, but she’ll have to learn how to make paninis. I missed it earlier, but Paloma IS a waitress at the same little restaurant. Her coworker notes that this walk-in seems to have gotten the job Paloma wanted. Paloma snarks that it matters not, once she gets a better job, she’s out of there.
*Chucho calls his ma from the patio at his apartment and begins to tell her about the wonky job he has. He assures her it’s not drugs. Before he knows it, Deivy jumps him before he can spill any more frijoles. Diego appears before Deivy chokes him. Deivy doesn’t think Chucho is trustworthy. Diego tells Deivy he is sure Chucho isn’t going to tell anyone. Diego turns to Chucho. Chucho tells Diego he realized they aren’t taking what belongs to them, but robbing. Diego says he was just trying to help him out with his family, but lets him leave the partnership without any recriminations. Chucho swears he won’t talk to anyone about it.
*Joselito plans his future with or without the Colombians. Piochas appears and hands him the address of the Hidalgos. José is off to the D.F. to settle some “business” with Disgusto and Mama Chula.
*Circe explains how the drugs are going to be moved. First they will all take different flights. Second, the drugs will be hidden among coffee beans to confuse the drug-sniffing dogs. (Amigos—this is true. It happened to me at BWI in August. I was taking fresh coffee beans to my daughter and had them in my carry-on luggage. I got stopped, the coffee wasn’t confiscated, but they did pull the packages out and swiped them with something. In retelling this incident to a fellow passenger, I was told it is a common way of moving drugs, inside packages of coffee, which confuses the dogs.) Circe cautions them. If one of them gets caught, there is NO snitching on the others.
*Isa picks up the kids from school and Porfi shows up bearing gifts for the kids and flowers for Isa. Isa explains that she and Porfi have agreed to let him see them more. They can go to the park with him. Amanda is ok with that, but Ricas holds back, so Isa goes with them. By the playground equipment, Porfi talks to Amanda—how he’s changing. He knows Isa hasn’t forgiven him, but he wonders if she could. She says she forgives him, even though Ricas hasn’t. Porfi suddenly collapses. (I wonder if he’s faking because he knows something is going to happen in the house and he wants to keep Isa and his kids safe.) Amanda calls out for Isa.
*Fer calls Zoe and tells her how she’s just been hired as a cook at a restaurant. Ooops, José already has her in his sights.
*At the airport security, Circe goes first and makes it through only to be stopped by someone who wants to look at her documents.
*Fer comes home without the kids. She barely has time to tell Diego she got a job when there is a Knock Knock at the door. Who’s There? No Answer. Too Bad. It’s Joselito and some Thugs when Diego opens the door. José waxes triumphant.
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Wow, Anita! Thanks so much for this marvellous recap! It covered everything, and even included some delightful snark. I especially liked "Disgusto inspects the girls (so many morsels, so little time, eh?)." I was also interested to learn about your experience at BWI.
I wasn't able to watch the episode last night, so I just watched it now. I'm so glad you did the recap and not me. Repeatedly, I found myself scratching my head over something I didn't understand. Your recap filled in my brain's many blanks.
I was surprised that Diana was so comfortable with people drinking and driving, and especially with cocaine use and sale, which she claims is "not so bad." The starry-eyed first meeting of Diana and Chucho no longer seems so promising. It's hard to see Diana as a good match for the extraordinarily innocent, straight-arrow Chucho. (I did enjoy her explaining to Chucho that "to find Prince Charming, you have to kiss lots of toads.")
I was interested to see how surprised Chucho was that Diego was OK with him not being part of the trio, and that there would be no repercussions. Somehow, I doubt that Deivid is really OK with that, in spite of Diego's assurances.
Though I don't like Circe, I cheered when she told the narcos that she and her women are not sex toys for anyone.
Was anyone else astonished that the supposedly savvy Diego responds to a very loud and insistent knock on the door by simply opening it without trying to see who is there?
Wow, Anita! Thanks so much for this marvellous recap! It covered everything, and even included some delightful snark. I especially liked "Disgusto inspects the girls (so many morsels, so little time, eh?)." I was also interested to learn about your experience at BWI.
I wasn't able to watch the episode last night, so I just watched it now. I'm so glad you did the recap and not me. Repeatedly, I found myself scratching my head over something I didn't understand. Your recap filled in my brain's many blanks.
I was surprised that Diana was so comfortable with people drinking and driving, and especially with cocaine use and sale, which she claims is "not so bad." The starry-eyed first meeting of Diana and Chucho no longer seems so promising. It's hard to see Diana as a good match for the extraordinarily innocent, straight-arrow Chucho. (I did enjoy her explaining to Chucho that "to find Prince Charming, you have to kiss lots of toads.")
I was interested to see how surprised Chucho was that Diego was OK with him not being part of the trio, and that there would be no repercussions. Somehow, I doubt that Deivid is really OK with that, in spite of Diego's assurances.
Though I don't like Circe, I cheered when she told the narcos that she and her women are not sex toys for anyone.
Was anyone else astonished that the supposedly savvy Diego responds to a very loud and insistent knock on the door by simply opening it without trying to see who is there?
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Juanita: I just do NOT trust or like Circe, who's a HYPOCRITE: talking a good game, but cannot follow through.
I see that Diana is going into a downward spiral with cocaine & more drugs..... remember how that worked out for Daniela Montenegro in Univision's "PyP" ?
Juanita: I just do NOT trust or like Circe, who's a HYPOCRITE: talking a good game, but cannot follow through.
I see that Diana is going into a downward spiral with cocaine & more drugs..... remember how that worked out for Daniela Montenegro in Univision's "PyP" ?
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Fabulous recap, Anita!
You got it all and with plenty of funny asides. I liked "spilling the frijoles".
It was Piochas who shot the lawyer. I hated Piochas, but I'm beginning to root for him. He's playing the long game, convincing José he's on his side and keeping back his knowledge that José was planning to leave Gavino to rot in jail.
The scenes with Nuria were well done and a PSA about the harm of methamphetamine. I was kind of surprised by the pills. I clearly remember Ramona calling the drug meta, but I thought you smoked it or snorted it. I didn't realize it came in pills, or maybe I didn't understand what she was giving them.
I have lots of admiration for Chucho for sticking to his guns and not accepting drugs to be part of Diana's "cool" friends. She did say, however, that she had never used drugs. It was kind of silly that he vomited after what looked like one swallow of alcohol.
Yep, our suspicions about Paloma's new "career" were true. I wonder how long it will take for the connection about where Isa works to be made.
I did not like Deivid's cruelty toward Chucho.
I can't imagine how Diego is going to get out of this predicament with José. José thinks Circe is with him. But Diego is likely not going to out Circe as the new, all woman cartel.
Fabulous recap, Anita!
You got it all and with plenty of funny asides. I liked "spilling the frijoles".
It was Piochas who shot the lawyer. I hated Piochas, but I'm beginning to root for him. He's playing the long game, convincing José he's on his side and keeping back his knowledge that José was planning to leave Gavino to rot in jail.
The scenes with Nuria were well done and a PSA about the harm of methamphetamine. I was kind of surprised by the pills. I clearly remember Ramona calling the drug meta, but I thought you smoked it or snorted it. I didn't realize it came in pills, or maybe I didn't understand what she was giving them.
I have lots of admiration for Chucho for sticking to his guns and not accepting drugs to be part of Diana's "cool" friends. She did say, however, that she had never used drugs. It was kind of silly that he vomited after what looked like one swallow of alcohol.
Yep, our suspicions about Paloma's new "career" were true. I wonder how long it will take for the connection about where Isa works to be made.
I did not like Deivid's cruelty toward Chucho.
I can't imagine how Diego is going to get out of this predicament with José. José thinks Circe is with him. But Diego is likely not going to out Circe as the new, all woman cartel.
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One more thing I meant to say. It appears that Isa is sleeping with Diego and then trying to rise early enough so the kids don't know it. I suspect this won't continue to work. Although, with José having found Diego, I can't even imagine how this is all going to work out.
One more thing I meant to say. It appears that Isa is sleeping with Diego and then trying to rise early enough so the kids don't know it. I suspect this won't continue to work. Although, with José having found Diego, I can't even imagine how this is all going to work out.
Thanks, Novelera and Anita. Everything is clear now. Circe champions women, in her way. Can't root for her, but do like the way she stands up to the guys.
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Juanita and novelera--thanks for the additional information and the correction of who shot the lawyer. Of course it was Piochas and not Jose. And, on reflection, I think you are correct that Isa wanted to be up and out of Diego's bed before the kids woke up. I bet Ricas or Amanda are on to her, though, especially if all three were still sleeping in the same bed, now that mama has taken over the "spare" bedroom.
Niecie--As for Circe, yeah, I blow hot and very cold on her, too. Interestingly enough, I saw no coffee beans being stuffed around the "working" girls' bags of white stuff. I'm surprised this is the method they chose. It would seem to me a very expensive way (all those air plane tickets) to move a few packets of drugs to the States.
Juanita and novelera--thanks for the additional information and the correction of who shot the lawyer. Of course it was Piochas and not Jose. And, on reflection, I think you are correct that Isa wanted to be up and out of Diego's bed before the kids woke up. I bet Ricas or Amanda are on to her, though, especially if all three were still sleeping in the same bed, now that mama has taken over the "spare" bedroom.
Niecie--As for Circe, yeah, I blow hot and very cold on her, too. Interestingly enough, I saw no coffee beans being stuffed around the "working" girls' bags of white stuff. I'm surprised this is the method they chose. It would seem to me a very expensive way (all those air plane tickets) to move a few packets of drugs to the States.
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No one has said that they're planning a recap, so I thought I'd just put up a few items from tonight's episode to get a conversation going.
José demands that Diego tell him where Circe is. If he doesn't tell him, José will kill him and his mother, and then go find Isa and her children and kill them, too. Diego finally offers a deal: if José promises not to hurt Fernanda, Diego will help José find Circe. Diego will speak with her on the phone and then tell José where she is. José agrees. He and his men leave.
At the airport, Circe finds herself subject to a random search of her luggage. The official finds nothing. Circe is free to board the plane, as are all the other Babel women.
Porfirio either has or fakes a problem with his back. Isa summons a taxi and takes him to some clinic. He recovers remarkably quickly. While they're at the clinic, Diego calls to tell Isa that the narcos had found where they live and had been there. He tells her that Porfirio was probably the one who gave the narcos the information.
Gabriela and Deivid talk. If anyone understands what they said, please let us all know.
Diana contacts Chucho and comes to see him. He shows her where he lives and tells her a bit about his family, including the fact that he's indigenous, and many people think that's synonymous with "animal." Diana tells him she doesn't feel that way. She gets a bit annoyed with him for being so negative. She finally kisses him and asks whether he likes/is turned on by her. Yes! he says.
Mateo visits Gavino at the hospital, supposedly in order to interrogate him. He tells Gavino that Piochas told him to come and tell him that José is trying to be sure that Gavino never gets out of prison. Gavino is shocked. He had trusted José and looked upon him as a son. Now he wants him dead.
Augusto gives Marlene a diamond ring and asks her to marry him. He says his lawyer has started the paperwork for the divorce. Marlene is ecstatic. Will she marry him? Sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí.
Diego decides to leave in order to protect everyone else. He says he won't be far away, just not at the house. There's a very touching scene between Diego and Ricas.
Circe tells Ramona and Felipa how excited she felt, the rush of adrenaline. She felt she wants more. Felipa tells her she needs to control herself. Yeah, sure.
José and his thugs pay a visit to Brandon and his thugs.
No one has said that they're planning a recap, so I thought I'd just put up a few items from tonight's episode to get a conversation going.
José demands that Diego tell him where Circe is. If he doesn't tell him, José will kill him and his mother, and then go find Isa and her children and kill them, too. Diego finally offers a deal: if José promises not to hurt Fernanda, Diego will help José find Circe. Diego will speak with her on the phone and then tell José where she is. José agrees. He and his men leave.
At the airport, Circe finds herself subject to a random search of her luggage. The official finds nothing. Circe is free to board the plane, as are all the other Babel women.
Porfirio either has or fakes a problem with his back. Isa summons a taxi and takes him to some clinic. He recovers remarkably quickly. While they're at the clinic, Diego calls to tell Isa that the narcos had found where they live and had been there. He tells her that Porfirio was probably the one who gave the narcos the information.
Gabriela and Deivid talk. If anyone understands what they said, please let us all know.
Diana contacts Chucho and comes to see him. He shows her where he lives and tells her a bit about his family, including the fact that he's indigenous, and many people think that's synonymous with "animal." Diana tells him she doesn't feel that way. She gets a bit annoyed with him for being so negative. She finally kisses him and asks whether he likes/is turned on by her. Yes! he says.
Mateo visits Gavino at the hospital, supposedly in order to interrogate him. He tells Gavino that Piochas told him to come and tell him that José is trying to be sure that Gavino never gets out of prison. Gavino is shocked. He had trusted José and looked upon him as a son. Now he wants him dead.
Augusto gives Marlene a diamond ring and asks her to marry him. He says his lawyer has started the paperwork for the divorce. Marlene is ecstatic. Will she marry him? Sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí, sí.
Diego decides to leave in order to protect everyone else. He says he won't be far away, just not at the house. There's a very touching scene between Diego and Ricas.
Circe tells Ramona and Felipa how excited she felt, the rush of adrenaline. She felt she wants more. Felipa tells her she needs to control herself. Yeah, sure.
José and his thugs pay a visit to Brandon and his thugs.
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Thanks, Anita.
On Gabriela and Dievid, she tells him not to involve Chucho in his narcobiz. Dievid is annoyed, "How many times do I have to tell you I'm out of it. In fact, I'm hiding from them." He says he was helping Chucho find new work. He says she's pretty, teases her about crushing on Chucho. She denies it. I do think Gabriela sees Chucho as a friend only, but I do see sparks between her and Dievid.
Yay, Gavino knows Joselito is a traitor.
Boo, Marlene accepts Disgusto's ring.
Chucho, Deivid, and Diego can't find legal work, but Fer who hasn't worked outside the home since who knows when lands a job in a flash.
Thanks, Anita.
On Gabriela and Dievid, she tells him not to involve Chucho in his narcobiz. Dievid is annoyed, "How many times do I have to tell you I'm out of it. In fact, I'm hiding from them." He says he was helping Chucho find new work. He says she's pretty, teases her about crushing on Chucho. She denies it. I do think Gabriela sees Chucho as a friend only, but I do see sparks between her and Dievid.
Yay, Gavino knows Joselito is a traitor.
Boo, Marlene accepts Disgusto's ring.
Chucho, Deivid, and Diego can't find legal work, but Fer who hasn't worked outside the home since who knows when lands a job in a flash.
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Niecie, the mini-cap was by our esteemed Juanita. Thanks so much, Juanita!
If I did not know that the two protagonists always make it to the end, I would have been even MORE terrified to see Diego in Joselito's cluches. Diego tried to goad him into trying to fight, man to man. But no.
What I thought was interesting was Joselito's animal cunning. He told Thug #2 on the way out that he could tell Diego was really into the other woman. But knowing Circe's obsessive nature, he thinks she'll call Diego. [Not sure how he's going to know that.]
I loved the scene with Diego and Ricas. The boy said he really wanted Diego to be his father, with Isa listening on the other side of the door.
What worries me is José having that photograph of Isa. They've been SO vague about whether she's still working at Babel. If she still is dancing there, there's a very good chance he'll see her.
José also had his eye on Nuria, who scuttled away.
At the very end it appears that José, Thug #1, and Thug #2 have found Brandon.
I love the way this novela gets things out in the open quickly. Isa found out about Porfirio's telling where they were right away. And Amanda STILL can't get over herself and realize what a toad her father is. Porfi right away calls papí, wanting him to do something about the fact that his wife now hates him.
I can't understand how Augusto can smoothly get a divorce. Isn't he sort of on the run? Plus, how can he get a regular divorce in the courts without giving back some of the money he stole from Fernanda?
I had my luggage searched in Mexico. When I arrived at the León Airport there was some kind of random light on the wall. If green, you go past it. If red, they search your suitcase.
Niecie, the mini-cap was by our esteemed Juanita. Thanks so much, Juanita!
If I did not know that the two protagonists always make it to the end, I would have been even MORE terrified to see Diego in Joselito's cluches. Diego tried to goad him into trying to fight, man to man. But no.
What I thought was interesting was Joselito's animal cunning. He told Thug #2 on the way out that he could tell Diego was really into the other woman. But knowing Circe's obsessive nature, he thinks she'll call Diego. [Not sure how he's going to know that.]
I loved the scene with Diego and Ricas. The boy said he really wanted Diego to be his father, with Isa listening on the other side of the door.
What worries me is José having that photograph of Isa. They've been SO vague about whether she's still working at Babel. If she still is dancing there, there's a very good chance he'll see her.
José also had his eye on Nuria, who scuttled away.
At the very end it appears that José, Thug #1, and Thug #2 have found Brandon.
I love the way this novela gets things out in the open quickly. Isa found out about Porfirio's telling where they were right away. And Amanda STILL can't get over herself and realize what a toad her father is. Porfi right away calls papí, wanting him to do something about the fact that his wife now hates him.
I can't understand how Augusto can smoothly get a divorce. Isn't he sort of on the run? Plus, how can he get a regular divorce in the courts without giving back some of the money he stole from Fernanda?
I had my luggage searched in Mexico. When I arrived at the León Airport there was some kind of random light on the wall. If green, you go past it. If red, they search your suitcase.
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Disculpame, Juanita! Thanks for the recap. You, Novelera, and Anita are jewels for sharing your talents and your time so the rest of us can enjoy our TNs.
Now that Porfirio is no longer hitting his family, I do understand him trying to woo them back (even playing dirty by ratting out Diego's location). But, without any counseling whatsoever and his quick turn to booze and poppa, will he become a brute again?
Disculpame, Juanita! Thanks for the recap. You, Novelera, and Anita are jewels for sharing your talents and your time so the rest of us can enjoy our TNs.
Now that Porfirio is no longer hitting his family, I do understand him trying to woo them back (even playing dirty by ratting out Diego's location). But, without any counseling whatsoever and his quick turn to booze and poppa, will he become a brute again?
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Thank you Juanita, for putting in the time and talent for your "few" items.
I was puzzled, too, why Jose would walk out without touching another hair on Fernanda and Diego. It must have something to do with telenovela magic storytelling. If I were as mean spirited as Jose, I would have taken Fernanda hostage, no matter what and/or stayed right there while Diego dialed up Circe's number. (Since they had a conversation, her number would be in his phone, no?)
I wonder how long it will be before Jose and Circe just naturally run into each other. How long can Ramona keep protecting her?
Niecie--All telenovela characters can get a quickie divorce IF they want one. There's always some abogado to take care of the details. Mexico City, remember has a no-fault, one-party divorce called Divorce Express. It helps abused women who want to be rid of their abuser officially, but puts lots of women at financial risk if their partner takes all the money and puts them in the street...
As I understand it, the LEGAL side of divorce is immediate, financial details are worked out later. It seems to me this is a rational way of dealing with hot heads bent on ruining the other party. This has no effect whatsoever on church-sanctioned marriages. They have to get approval from the church to divorce and that often takes months (as in CME).
I feel sorry for Isa, because using her false identity, she can't avail herself of this benefit. We haven't heard whether she was married in the church or not, but she certainly seems to be quite loosey-goosey with who her bed mate is vis a vis church doctrine.
Thank you Juanita, for putting in the time and talent for your "few" items.
I was puzzled, too, why Jose would walk out without touching another hair on Fernanda and Diego. It must have something to do with telenovela magic storytelling. If I were as mean spirited as Jose, I would have taken Fernanda hostage, no matter what and/or stayed right there while Diego dialed up Circe's number. (Since they had a conversation, her number would be in his phone, no?)
I wonder how long it will be before Jose and Circe just naturally run into each other. How long can Ramona keep protecting her?
Niecie--All telenovela characters can get a quickie divorce IF they want one. There's always some abogado to take care of the details. Mexico City, remember has a no-fault, one-party divorce called Divorce Express. It helps abused women who want to be rid of their abuser officially, but puts lots of women at financial risk if their partner takes all the money and puts them in the street...
As I understand it, the LEGAL side of divorce is immediate, financial details are worked out later. It seems to me this is a rational way of dealing with hot heads bent on ruining the other party. This has no effect whatsoever on church-sanctioned marriages. They have to get approval from the church to divorce and that often takes months (as in CME).
I feel sorry for Isa, because using her false identity, she can't avail herself of this benefit. We haven't heard whether she was married in the church or not, but she certainly seems to be quite loosey-goosey with who her bed mate is vis a vis church doctrine.
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Many thanks, Niecie, novelera, and Anita, for your helpful and insightful postings.
Niecie, thanks especially for your account of the conversation between Gabriela and Deivid. It all went by too fast for me to process.
novelera, I too loved the scene between Ricas and Diego. The bond between the two of them is what gives me hope that Diego will make it to the end, and very likely with Isa, Amanda, and Ricas. I confess that I'm still a bit nervous. Diego reminds me quite a bit of Rodrigo in Bajo el mismo cielo, and not just because Luis Ernesto Franco played both roles. To my astonishment, Rodrigo did not make it to the end. Of course, one could argue that Gabriel Porras' character was the protagonist, but I'd say they both were.
Like you, novelera, I'm worried about the possibility--no, likelihood--that José will recognize Isa at Babel, now that he has that photo of her and her children.
Anita, I love your calling attention to "telenovela magic storytelling." It includes telenovela magic notions of time and, of course, telenovela medicine. And thanks for the info about Divorce Express. My assumption, however, is that, regardless of what sleazeball Augusto tells Marlene, he may not even be bothering with a divorce.
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Many thanks, Niecie, novelera, and Anita, for your helpful and insightful postings.
Niecie, thanks especially for your account of the conversation between Gabriela and Deivid. It all went by too fast for me to process.
novelera, I too loved the scene between Ricas and Diego. The bond between the two of them is what gives me hope that Diego will make it to the end, and very likely with Isa, Amanda, and Ricas. I confess that I'm still a bit nervous. Diego reminds me quite a bit of Rodrigo in Bajo el mismo cielo, and not just because Luis Ernesto Franco played both roles. To my astonishment, Rodrigo did not make it to the end. Of course, one could argue that Gabriel Porras' character was the protagonist, but I'd say they both were.
Like you, novelera, I'm worried about the possibility--no, likelihood--that José will recognize Isa at Babel, now that he has that photo of her and her children.
Anita, I love your calling attention to "telenovela magic storytelling." It includes telenovela magic notions of time and, of course, telenovela medicine. And thanks for the info about Divorce Express. My assumption, however, is that, regardless of what sleazeball Augusto tells Marlene, he may not even be bothering with a divorce.
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