Thursday, December 20, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Sultana, Falsa identidad, Señora Acero 5, y más: Week of December 17, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 8-9PM—La Sultana**
• 9-10PM—Falsa Identidad
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 5

**On Friday, December 21, La Sultana will not be seen. In its place, Telemundo will show the film Red from 7-9 PM

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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"FALSA IDENTIDAD":

Juanita: Does this also mean "IDENTIDAD" will not be on the air tonight as well ?
 

identidad

To get the discussion going:

Isabel asks Porfirio whether something happened with Paloma that he wants to mention. [How can she be so smart about Porfirio and so dumb about her plan for reburying the Guevaras?]

Isa calls Diego. She wants to tell him something, but in person. He comes at once to see her.

Ugh. Disgusto. Ugh. He comes up the stairs as Marlene goes down in the elevator. Finding the apartment door locked, locksmith Disgusto shoots the lock open. Diana drops the plate she's carrying and tries to hide. "Dianeeeeta," he calls to her. He finds her, grabs her, and tells her that she and Marlene will leave the apartment, but first he wants to have what he didn't get before. "Take off your clothes!" he orders, pistol in hand. "Dance for me!" "Put on music!" A terrified Diana reluctantly complies.

Meanwhile Lourdes, Lucia, and the other three young women, accompanied by Lourdes' parents, arrive at the police station in a town that's not Alamos to make denunciations against Mateo. All five make similar statements, ending with "He sold me."

Circe gives up on waiting for Diego. She leaves, but not before taking the envelope with the false passports and other documents.

Isa tells Diego about her plans re the Guevaras, and Diego says he'll go with her. [Of course. Diego is always up for a bad plan.]

Marlene returns to the apartment for her cell phone. She sees the open door and the broken plate on the floor. She grabs a wine bottle. She comes upon Disgusto trying to force himself on Diana. Marlene smashes the bottle on his head. That does get Disgusto's attention. Struggles ensue. Marlene succeeds in getting Disgusto's gun, but he grabs Diana and uses her as a shield. Holding her, he heads for the balcony. In true telenovela fashion, Jim just happens to come by in his car and sees Disgusto and Diana on the balcony.

Nuria's mother arrives to care for Nuria, bringing with her chili rojo, which apparently is or was one of Nuria's favorites.

Yes, I know, we're not interested in Nuria, so let's get back to Disgusto. As Marlene points the pistol at him, he pushes Diana over the side of the balcony and a horrified Marlene pulls the trigger, shooting Disgusto in the chest [where most people have a heart]. Jim has arrived and seen what happened. Marlene is in shock: "I killed him, I killed him" she says in disbelief. Jim assures her she acted in self defense. I think he calls 911. No indication of whether Diana survived.

Gabi tells Deivid she has decided to go to the United States. Deivid pleads with her not to leave him. He says they can go elsewhere, change their names. whatever. Thanks, she says, but she's going to go to the US.

Marlene calls Isa. "I need you. Something horrible has happened."

Ramona calls Circe on Gavino's orders. She tells her that apparently it was Diego who tipped off the DEA about the drug shipment.

Circe is with her crew when Diego appears. The two of them stare at each other with mutual distrust.
 

Identidad

thanks so much Juanita!

Mateos did give Gavino an address for Disgusto in the capital, so some bad guys should be showing up.

he also has some speculation that Diego was an informant for the FBI that tipped the DEA, they agree the evidence is weak, so Gavino has Ramona tell Circe, she'll believe her.

Disgusto only managed to throw Diana to the side, there was a pretty high glass shield around the balcony, in the beginning of the 4th segment, she slips back into the room.

so Circe now knows Diego tipped the DEA and he knows she killed Eliseo, as they stare each other down (what an ending) but I would have thought Gavino would have wanted to watch the show, maybe he needs to keep his low profile.

 

Hmm. I wanted something more for Disgusto's denouement. Everything seemed rushed and a bit anticlimactic. The balcony could've featured more; perhaps a classic novela fall? Anyway, things are starting to heat up. You can certainly feel the "últimas semanas" even though they've yet to be announced.
 

identidad

Thanks so much, Juanita, for getting things started. I loved your parenthetical comments about Diego always up for a bad plan. And, yes I know we're not interested in Nuria. Also: Where most people have a heart. [Too lazy to put quotes around your excellent snarks!]

I watched a couple of times and didn't think I could see Diana actually go over the balcony. I came to the conclusion that Marlene made that shot to the heart before he could get her over. But, then again, I could not see her ON the balcony from the camera angle.

At last! At last! Disgusto is dead. I've wished for this since the first episode when Fernanda came into Eliseo's office and the jerk dismissed her as if she were an impertinent maid.

Gavino's masterminding of the Circe and Diego plan is pretty amazing.

I thought Jim would save the day, but he only arrived in time to comfort Marlene.

I did kind of like Nuria's mother feeding her anorexic kid.

The victims of Mateo had gone to Hermosilla, which is the capital of Sonora. I got out my atlas last night. I had the idea somehow that Álamos was fairly close to the US-Mexico border, but it's way to the south of the capital.

From the internet: Álamos, 475 miles from Tucson, Arizona, is a National Colonial Monument in the southeast corner of Sonora, México.
 

identidad

Gah! It's Hermosillo, not Hermosilla!
 

identidad

Thanks very much, deb and novelera, for your additions and corrections. I'm surprised and happy to know that Diana may not have gone over the balcony after all. I watched that brief scene twice last night, because I thought she had gone over but wasn't sure. I still wasn't sure after watching the scene again, but I didn't see her after that, so I assumed Disgusto had indeed pushed her off. I wondered if perhaps that was the writers' way of getting Chucho together with Mara, Gabi's sister. However, if you saw Diana again, deb, then clearly she's still with us.

deb, I loved your point about thinking Gavino would have wanted to watch the show he had created between Circe and Diego. Gavino is truly a master manipulator and planner.

novelera, glad you liked the snark.

I too had thought that Jim would save the day. It may turn out to be useful that he was there as an eyewitness to what happened.
 

Identidad

I thinking Chucho should hitch a ride on the american dream with Mara, forget that other family.

 

Juanita, thank you for the recap with company coming pressuring you.
And deb for the additions. I watched quickly and paid more attention to the recap. For WIW, I thought also Dianeeeeta had gone over the balcony.

About Disgusto--I've seen so many guys in telenovelas shot right where their hearts are look dead and survive and others who get shot somewhere else stay conscious and bleed out or suffer irreversible organ damage die. Show me a coroner's report before I believe he's dead.
 

identidad

Hah! Anita, I loved your coroner's report comment! Obviously you're a telenovela veteran.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Juanita. The choreographer is working overtime orchestrating these fights. Marlena showed much restraint in shooting Disgusto only once.

I thought Disgusto shot the front door lock in order to enter the penthouse. But Marlena didn't seem to notice anything amiss till she saw the smashed pottery.


 

identidad

Anita, I'm with you on the coroner's report (and even then, of course, sometimes the bad guys bribe and/or threaten the coroner into issuing a false report).

Niecie, I think you're right about Marlene not noticing the open door with its busted lock. I said in my mini-cap that she did, but in fact the only thing I remember clearly is her noticing the smashed plate.

Speaking of choreography, that was one hot dance between Jim and Marlene!
 

Identidad #72

Diego has a plan, neither he nor Circe spill what they know, but he convinces her the only way out is to get the merc back, then calls his FBI friend.

Fer and Salas do it, but Fer stresses this isn't going to be a convention relationship, she likes being independent, Salas was in love with the old Fer, but is enchanted with the new one.

the cops finally buy the girls confessions and send the Feds after Mateo, as usual the good guys rush in the front door, the bad guy runs out the back door, but wait, he's surrounded, but with a couple of pistols takes on a gaggle of automatic weapons, I'm glad it's not my neighborhood they are running through.

Diego visits the PI, what?, and cuts a deal, Diego will get him out of prison and they will work together, sure you are not just testing me?

Disgusto goes to the morgue.

Diego meets with the dirty cop as Circe's partner, arranges the PI's release and confirms to himself that it was Circe that set up the PI.

Blondie swings by to see Felipe, wait, wasn't it him that poked out her eye?

Mateos gets away, then warns Ramona who is at his house, too late.

 

Disgusto ROFLOL.
 

identidad

Many thanks, deb, for your helpful and delightful mini-cap. I loved your "as usual the good guys rush in the ront door, the bad guy runs out the back door." And did the federales who came after Mateo have absolutely no training or experience in how to shoot? Circe's army of ex-Babel women did infinitely better at shooting than these guys.

Well, this episode made it clear that Diana didn't get thrown off the balcony. And, as an extra bonus, Disgusto really is DEAD.

I think when Fernanda kissed Salas in front of Zoraida, Zoraida gave a very audible gasp.

I hope everyone stayed around for the previews at the end of the episode, because it was announced there that the next episode will air on Wednesday. Nothing on Monday or Tuesday (Christmas Eve and Christmas Day).

¡Felices Fiestas!
 

identidad

What, you never heard of the ront door? :-)
 

identidad--
deb, thanks for taking it on the chin for us last night. This was a fast paced episode. I hadn't the slightest idea who the guy in jail was that Diego had to talk into trusting him, but I guess he had been convicted of killing some good guy with Circe's testimony.

Now we know why Diego wants to have Circe take this little trip to Sonora first, ostensibly to get their "merca" back. She doesn't believe him, but she definitely wants to be with him--since everyone is looking for her. He plans to turn her over to the crooked DEA. In return all he asked was that she spend a good long time in prison.

About that door. The Marlene-Disgusto apartment was probably in the high-rent district and it had a front door and a tradesman's/servant's entry. I was in an apartment in Montevideo that had TWO elevators--one for guests that opened right into a vestibule inside the apartment and another much smaller one through which to bring in groceries, or take the dog out. It could be that Disgusto shot the tradesman's entrance so Marlene wouldn't have noticed anything awry until she saw the broken china on the kitchen floor.

I had to restrain from outright guffawing during the high-speed foot chase between Mateo and the Federales. Leaping off rooftops and inching along ledges? I was amazed that Mateo never ran out of bullets, was never hit, and never a hair out of place, while one of the Federales went down with just one shot from Mateo's pistol, while we got away unharmed out from under a hail of automatic gunfire.
 

identidad

Anita, the guy Diego went to see in jail, Acevedo, is a private investigator that Margot Guevara hired to help her find her nephew and his family. When he went to meet with her in her hotel room, he found the door somewhat open and Margot sitting up in the shower, dead, with a knife in her hand. Acevedo called the police. However, Circe bribed a cop on the case to put the blame on Acevedo and get a confession from him, so that there would be no further investigation of Margot's murder. Margot was actually killed by Circe's associate Flora (I think), who unintentionally stabbed Margot with a knife a short time before Acevedo arrived. In fact, he passed Circe and Flora in the hotel corridor as they were leaving and he was arriving.
 

identidad

Thanks so much, deb. Loved "Glad it's not my neighborhood they're running through."

Yep, the Keystone Kops chasing Super Mateo (instead of Super Mario) through the streets of Álamos was very entertaining. Please, writers, let him not go after the women who accused him! OTOH I don't think he ever knew exactly which women accused him, although he certainly will want to go after Lourdes and her family, hopefully in an unknown location.

Anita, I never connected the dots about Diego having Circe take that trip with him to Sonora in order to turn her in.

He definitely plans to have Acevedo help him pin another murder on Circe: Margot Guevara.

Good for Telemundo, a tasteful post-coital scene between Fernanda and Salas. Nice to see some older people in bed together!
 

identidad
Juanita--Thanks for refreshing my memory. It may have happened during my "catch up" time and I FF-> through it all. I do seem to remember the bloody body in the shower though.

novelera--Super Mateo isn't going to have many folks left to go after the girls, if he can only count on Piochas, with all the local police and the federales looking for him. I doubt Gavino will give him much back-up--it's small potatoes for what he is planning...to regain the throne of his cartel empire, wipe out the Sierras, take over Circe's gang-o-gals, and make the Colombians go back to Colombia.

This is something I'd rather not say out loud, but Gavino would be better off with Mateo dead (by whoever's hand). With Mateo in dire straits, what can he offer Gavino now? His contacts with government and law enforcement have in effect, dried up. And, he needs maintenance. He can't go back to his little casita with the renovated bathroom.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Deb. Loved your coverage of Mateo's getaway. I kept thinking any real Mexican cop watching this must be laughing his head off at these keystone cops.

Salas and Fer. Surprised Fer decided to hit the sheets but good for them. Zoraida doing a double take of Fer kissing Salas was cute.
 

Merry Christmas to everybody!
 

identidad

Niecie--I'm glad, too, about Fer and Salas, but the invitation sounded too much like a contract, void of emotion--a deal she was offering him. Salas is so crazy about her that he was willing to have her under any conditions. It seemed that, after the drought for both, they were quite happy with the results and are willing to extend the contract.

I hope, for both their sakes, the end of the story still finds Fer independent, successful and happy with her business and personal life, and hasn't reverted to the standard tn ending of the woman needing a man to be complete and being the second stringer in the relationship. Much better to complement each other in an equal relationship.

Of course, Circe is just the opposite of independent, successful and happy with her business and personal life. She still needs and wants A MAN to be happy, even if her business is illegal.

My only concession to Circe being the way she is, is that she had no moral compass growing up to show her another way. All she saw was power and more power--involving violence to get it and stay in power. Who did she have that had her interests in mind rather than his or her own--Felipa or Gavino? Ramona was just out for her own betterment. Felipa had an agenda--to mold Circe into someone more powerful than Gavino. Gavino just ignored her and treated her like someone he wished he hadn't engendered--she wasn't a boy.

Not the most uplifting thoughts for a Christmas Eve. So, here's hoping everyone has a peaceful and loving holiday. See you later in the week.
 

caray

Anita, perhaps there is an uplifting thought for Christmas Eve: Caray, Caray, will live on - a very nice Christmas gift to us all.
 

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