Monday, October 21, 2019
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 21, 2019
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
9-10PM — El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
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Labels: selena, señor7, sin-senos4, telemundo
"Relive the wedding of Carmen Villalobos and Sebastián Caicedo celebrated in style with their family and friends in Colombia."
posted at telemundo.com, (45 minutes).
Dan is dead, the Colonel tells CG he has rounded up all the security cameras, he is sure he'll have a suspect, oh and how do I get ahold of Lucia, Cg will find out.
Marcela gets the call, the building blew up, there were no survivors, she tells Hilda who assumes the worst, Al returns their earlier call and Hilda gives him the news.
Calvo lies about the hit to Diabla, plays up Ivan, and gets a wad of money to pay him, next she wants him to rundown the family of her face, and kill them.
Rogelio and Emilia arrive at Shadow's pool hall, Em and Shadow talk privately, after they are caught up, she says there's more, Hand killed a girl that looked like your pregnant wife, but she did die after your son was born, that I raised and loved till he locked me up, Shadow breaks down, he must find his son, Rog will look into it.
Cg comes by to see her mom, they give the Colonel DNA samples to compare to the samples at the blown up building, later CG takes Hilda home, they decide to have a sleepover, calls Santi and cancels their meet, but tells him Sebas is coming.
Diabla and Hand talk, he gives her the number of the guy who has CM and Nachi, they will both get their x6 after the fight, Al wants proof of his daughter or he won't fight, Diabla makes the call and lets them talk, a few words anyway.
Cuina doesn't want Pilar to feel obligated.
Calvo has sent Ivan a dossier on Carla's family, hmm, but I don't see a pic of Carla, Nat thinks these people look too normal, they decide to stall till they find out more. (are Nat's earrings getting bigger)
Sal talks to a buyer, Jo has told him there is no Hilda collection, and asked him for a job, Sal is lost for words.
Vane is busy looking for leads on Paola.
news flash on Conde being dead, our various groups all watch, Hand asks Mari to get a bottle of champagne, be a stewardess for the night, she is loving it, not.
Alf realizes he was set up to be there when Conde died, Lucrecia suggests their whole team get security checks including Alf's girlfriend.
Al spills to Leandro about his daughter being held hostage.
Jo calls Hilda, says she has proof she was just following Sal's orders, her proof she figures will be Mateo's lies, his only way out of her clutches.
Cuina negotiates with Titi as Pilar listens from afar, she accuses him of using Pilar while he loves CG, offers him $5 million for the xy4 and another $5 if she gets to spend the night with Pilar, who jumps out and starts undressing, but one more thing for me, kill CG, Cuina's good with that, as they seal the deal with a kiss and... Titi is making his way out of the party when Cuina says there's room for 3, which doesn't slow him down.
Al and Jota get their pills and separate fighters, to the death.
Santos has flight xy5 linked to the dark web where they can watch the fights along with the betting statistics.
Diabla is also watching, if only Al would stay with her and take all she has to offer, he wouldn't even have to fight, hmm, but he does seem to be falling for Valeria.
1.) I see that Jaime has future political plans (assuming he marries Berenice, whom I feel is Bizarro Gaviota 2.0) since he's plotting for the Presidency & residing in Los Pinos down the road.
2.) Berenice's Mommy is getting the sense that Jaime is BAD NEWS.
3.) The Greeks are up to NO GOOD since one of them is plotting to undermine Amado & Diana.
4.) Ojeda is still DON JACKASS.
El Final del Paraíso
Thanks, deb, you hit all the points. I don’t have much time to comment today.
Too bad, Daniel is really dead. A shame about the PI helping Hilda, too.
Santi had the same reaction as I did when Cata decided to bring Sebas back to Colombia. Why Cata, why?!
I can’t believe that Albeiro would ever choose Valeria over CataG or Hilda. Her innocence, kindness and love? She looks, dresses and acts like a cheap tramp. She changed the name and face but the rotten soul shows through. Some have sensed it, others haven’t.
dondi356
I'm surprised no one has recognized Diabla's mannerisms and voice even though she has sweetened them for Valeria. Also, why hasn't Albiero overheard her with Calvo or glimpsed them conspiring when unmasked?
Dayana's "previous death" was more fitting: being shoved out of a moving car like fast food litter. She and Conde capitulated too fast when outed on TV -- Epstein avoided arrest for months after the Miami Sentinel articles and Ghislaine Maxwell is still on the lam.
-MCM
Lucrecia has been bending Alf's ears, he's finally becoming suspicious of Valeria, they decide to play along.
Santi and Zoraya swear if either die, they will carry on the revenge (the gang should really do a group thing on that)
Shadow has Art put together guns for all.
Al finally gets the better of his opponent, but round 2 it's swords, yikes, and manages to disarm him and take him down.
Jota also gets through his match.
Hand is intense watching the fights, but it's turbulence for the plane, Moncho rushes to open the door, but Hand knocks him out, and it's duct tape prison for him.
Lu has told Alf that eyes don't lie, Alf calls Val all loving, wants to see her eyes when she tells him she wants to spend the rest of her life with him, she agrees, but writes it off because the guys an idiot.
Jo taunts Mateos, are you in or out, he breaks and says he will do anything she asks if she'll let him go, and she does, he bashes the guard and runs for it, no, no no, Jo says, and he is later arrested running through the streets in his dress.
Santi tells Shadow he really needs to see CG, (who is busy with her mom and other things)
it's morning and the Colonel wakes up CG, good news, none of the remains DNA matches CM or Nachi, but there is evidence they were there, oh and this guy was arrested who claims to have the truth on Hilda's scandal, CG and Hilda are on there way, after showering, CG going home for a change, and such.
flight xy5 lands to take on a stewardess, Sasha, Santos is drooling.
Mateos will tell all but only with Hilda present (or maybe never)
Shadow and Emilia talk about his son, how Hand probably hid his past from him, as Hand calls his son, Alex, (looks like a spoiled brat), wants him to come along on the flight, hmm but Alex has a friend and not much respect for his dad, (will have to see more).
Calvo brings Al home, they take a blood sample (does he have any left) for the lab.
Cuina and Pilar awake glowing, it was Pilars first time and she loved it (or so she said, she is the smartest cookie on the show) but she doesn't want Cuina to hurt Titi, and when will she kill CG, business over, time for a quickie.
Moron greets Titi who is not so happy, Cuina got what she wanted, the night with Pilar, but they got 10 million, and adds, when Cuina is full of lust for Pilar, they will kill her and take the cartel, of course Tonina is listening and puts them each in a separate cage.
Vane gets a video from Paola, not looking good, who then gets caught and killed, maybe, who passes the news on to CG who takes an emotional dive into her mothers arms.
Diabla gets a video she requested from the hacker and shows Calvo, yep, it's him killing Dan, you lied to me, her silver gun flashing in the light of the room as it comes to the back of his head...
El Final del Paraíso
Thanks for the recap, deb.
Yay! Lucrecia, the smartest one on whole show (ok, Natalia, too), has finally planted a seed of doubt in someone—Berrio. I loved when she told Berrio, “Our eyes never lie”. Enough delaying, now she needs to bring this to Catagrande.
About swearing revenge, Santi and Shadow already made that promise to each other. They are a very interesting group of people, coming from all levels of society. Santi said, “we all have a dark, unfamiliar side”.
Is it too much to ask that Mateo tells the truth about Jo at this stage? I’m worried he will do Jo’s bidding and blame Sal.
Is Alex Shadow’s son? On first take, I don’t see him as a spoiled brat. He’s a just a bored kid controlled by a crappy father, treated like a valuable item that needs to be guarded 24/7. So now we know Hand’s weakness. Every narco storyline says that loved ones are a weakness that can be exploited.
Alex’s friend happens to be our Sebas. Alex is going to ditch his dad and take off with Sebas to Colombia.
Ha, ha Pilar got turned out by Cuina. Moron was not happy about Titi’s plan. Cuina doesn’t need Titi when she has Pilar. I can’t imagine how the OGs will get out of this mess unscathed.
How can Diabla kill Calvo? Doesn’t she need him? Who else does she have that she can trust with her secrets and do her bidding?
dondi356
Deb and Dondi, my blurry eyes may have played tricks on me, but I think I spotted months-earlier flashbacks between Luc and Alf wherein Luc described and showed photo similarities between Diabla and Val, and Luc and Alf then slyly plotted his "besotted" hits on Val. These slicksters then played rope-a-dope on the queen narco trope. Luc also proved that Val has no history, which again reveals Cata G's mistakes.
-MCM
DEB:
YOU ARE AWESOME...THANKS A BUNCH....
YES DONDI!!!
VALERIA IS A TRAMP!!..
MCM:
YES.. DAYANNA DEATH BY CAR...HAD MORE DIGNITY...
YES...LUCREZIA IS THE BOMB!! ALF IS REALLY LISTENING??
YES.. FOR goodness sake ..MATEO...dude made a dopefiend move!!.. got up and gone!!!
Poor Vanessa, your daugther and now...No Paola is dead again???
HELL NO ..!!...CUINA...YUCK.. pILAR ..YOU SURE DROPPED THOSE DRAWERS, WHEN YOU HEARD THAT DOLLAR RING- RING, CHING- CHING...!!!
SO DID TITI.?.. pILLAR..YOU HAVE A STRONG STOMACH... CUINA, ONE WOULD RATHER SCREW A GOODLOOKING HOMELESS THAN YOU !! yuck.. you have to pay$$ for it.. i guess like any other
NARCOCAPO!!
AL and the SIDA CURE...YEAH RIGHT..PORFAVOR!!
so Sebas is best buds with Alex??!!..these writers are really throwing it All in the Mix!!
Val has no history??.. why didnt Diabla grab the information, did she scrub the record??
HALIMA ON THE QUICK-TIP/ Q-T.....job.!1
thanks all, great comments!
dondi, I totally missed the Sebas connection!
MCM, yep, Lucrecia is a narco hunter, interesting she turned up Valeria has no past, but I think Diabla told Calvo she will use Carla's past, one of the reasons she is using Ivan to check out the family.
also if it makes any difference I think I heard Leticia saying earlier her husband is going blind from diabetes and dying.
Halimacandy, yep, Pilar jumped into the ring pulling her pants down when she heard the $10 million, ka-ching.
anyone following Quantas 19+ hour test flight from NY to Sydney, longest commercial non-stop flight, I think they skipped any cargo and most of the passengers to keep the weight down to make their 100 tons of fuel last. (Moncho wasn't invited)
according to People en Espanol
"Operación Pacífico" has begun recording, starring Majida Issa (Diabla no.1, Sin Senos) who reports it's "absolutely beautiful, profound, dizzying, exciting, shocking ..."
also starring Mark Tacher (Alejandro Alcalá in LRDS2), Luciano D'Alessandro (Roman in Mi gorda bella) and appearances by Johanna Fadul (Daniel, Sin Senos).
set to premiere in 2020.
"La Dona 2", rumor is they showed a promo during the Music Awards.
Deb, I think Diabla and Calvo initially ignored Carla's history because they were desperate to fix Diabla's immediate injuries. Carla's history only became an issue when her distraught mother made a scene at Alf's rally. Now Diabla and Calvo are furiously backtracking. Maybe Black Hand's connections covered for Valeria's missing history, but I think trusting Cata G skipped her homework.
-MCM
DEB:
LOVING LUCREZIA AND ALF... he finally smells a rat...she may save us all.. Lucrezia .. recognizes game..she is well AWARE... that Diabla is playing to death.. and hates her,... LU Lu is not taking chances..ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME!!... GO LULU!!!
PLANE RIDE..
I AM SICK OF THAT PLANE TOO. KNOCK ME OUT!!MONCHO.. POOR DUDE..!!
Diabla is over playing her hand with Calvo over IVAN..NATALIA, SHE HAS TO GET A PLAN AND COVER FOR POOR IVAN..
ALL of this planning to kill CG..it's going to back fire she is the only one that's gonna make it out alive!! maybe..
Dondi:
why oh why did Titi.... have to front, sell WOLF TICKETS/ why..START SH#$T NOW!!
he must be 'butt-hurt' like the song says..over the ulgy 3-some.. from hell!!
poor Moron he is too old for this mess. shoot cardonito !!
is everybody dying on this show..final is crazy..FINALLY!!
POOR SHADOW TO FIND YOUR CHILD IS UNDER B.H. parenting..
why B.H. thinks a teenager is going to spent HOMECOMING WEEKEND with poppi.. he is Craycray
and a weirder.. he taped macho moncho to chair ..LOL!!
YES..Diabla needs Calvo.. wierd sick, he respect her coldblooded temperment..its a sign of NARCO STRENGTH!! HE LIKES AND RESPONSES TO HER BRUTALITY...HOWEVER she is overplaying her hand abt his cub!!!!
halimacandy on the QT..at JOB...
DEB/ DONDI:
WHY? OH? WHY ?...did Titi.. JUMP BAD !! NOW!!??WHY..and in psychoville.. he forgot where he was and those ACOUSTICS ARE THE BOMB!!
THERE WAS NO WAY IN HELL THEY WERE GETTING OUT WITH 10 MILLION..the B.S. senario was a SET UP!!!
CUINA IS A PSYCHO SHE SET IT UP TO FAIL..
..but Titi ...my 2nd husband what were you thinking ..talk trash in the pool/garden/outside..anywhere but the women's living room ..PORFAVOR!??!
HILDA AND CG REUNION WAS ALONG TIME COMINMG, THEY MISS THE MEETING WITH MATEO??
CG will change tracks in a heart beat..Santi was correct !! bring Sebas here?? for what??
CG did it without his permission..
shadow.. Emilia was amother to your poor child..
BH has a lot to answer for if they dont chop him into pieces first..
Paola..gonna -miss -you- girl- from the original series!! she died ugly?!..JOTA GOING BACK TO JAIL OR DYING FIRST???
well the pace of this FINAL is moving like GREASED LIGHTING!!
GOOD .IT WILL GIVE IT TIME TO REALLY CLOSE THINGS..HOPING!!
AL, DIABLA IS HOTas a oven.. WATCHING YOU FIGHT... WHEN SHE SCREAM OUT YOUR NAME, WILL YOU HAVE A DIABLA IN HEAT FLASHBACK..?
halimacandy on the QT..at JOB
“100 Días Para Enamorarnos” (100 Days To Fall In Love) "a romantic comedy", begins production at the Miami studios.
"The story chronicles the life of two best friends, Constanza Franco (Salas), a successful and sophisticated lawyer, mother and wife; and Remedios Rivera (Treviño), a loving mother and wife, who, contrary to her friend, is a free-spirit struggling to keep her life in order. After almost 20 years of marriage, the two friends decide to separate from their respective spouses. Remedios is conflicted after her first love comes back into her life; while Constanza comes to an agreement with her husband to take a 100-day hiatus. Once the 100-day break is up, she must decide whether to stay married or not."
https://www.nbcumv.com/news/telemundo-kicks-production-romantic-comedy-%E2%80%9C100-dias-para-enamorarnos%E2%80%9D-100-days-fall-love?network=33144
looks like the winter lineup might be
100 Días Para Enamorarnos
La Dona 2
Operación pacífico
Diabla doesn't shoot, she orders Calvo to bring her his son's head, he knows how it works, this sets him off talking to himself, remembering Al leaning on him for being her slave, enough he mumbles.
Cg's group all meet at the DEA office, she splits off to talk to Vane, the others meet with Mateo.
Vane shows CG Paola's snuff video, Paola talks about her confinement, Hai Meng raping her, getting her addicted, but she also mentions watching the cage fights online, oh and, she killed Laura, Meng catches her and it's a bullet to the head.
Mateos tells all, it was Jo, she'll stop at nothing, how he was confined and forced to wear one of Hilda's dresses, he asks for Hilda's forgiveness, she's taken aback by it all, but not only forgives him but gives him a job taking him into her family, the Colonel is on it too, sending out an APB to arrest Jo.
Cuina visits her cage room with Pilar in tow, doesn't look good but Pilar calls her on her promise to not touch Titi, Moron wants in on that deal too, but gets fresh meat stuffed into his clothes, King the mad dog is let loose.
Zoraya and Emilia go to Dan's funeral, with Art as backup, where's Lucia?
Vane and CG mourn the loss of another sister, connect the Al/Jota fights with Diabla, vow to take down this NWO, that includes Mari, Vane hopes that CG will see her for what she is.
flight xy5 stops, but there is no Alex, the Hand starts losing it, only gives the order to fly when the cops arrive, fasten your seat belts everyone.
Jo is cruising the barrio, calls Sal and asks his forgiveness for what she is about to do, she loves him, oh wait, Hilda isn't home so she bashes Leticia with a tireiron.
Alf's up in the polls, Lu decides he should meet with Val on the wedding, get some documents on her ID that will incriminate her, he looks like he enjoys joining Lu in the hunt (where's his love) do they decide to have Cg there for the unmasking?
Hilda and Marcela comfort Leticia after the medics the Colonel has sent are done, he has taken Mateo to police HQ.
Jo is spotted as she is getting gas, the chase is on, but they only capture an empty car.
CG has tipped Santi who joins her and Vane awaiting Sebas' arrival, hugs all around, Vane hurries things along because they are illegally parked, ha! after Santi is assured that Alex isn't running away from home or something.
Marino ?? the hacker has zeroed in on Alex's location and tipped Hand.
I think Mari wants to take down the Hand, but Moncho warns, not up in the air, (and I don't think that russian stewardess is anyone to mess with) Hand picks up on the vibe but Mexican turbulance sends all to their seats, not sure what her plan is but she pops a pill, xy5?
Deb: I'm assuming you watched this episode last night, where Ojeda is a total JACKASS in raping his CIA colleague in such a very disturbing way. Like I said before, I KNEW I recognized Don Jackass from "Sin Tu Mirada".
Dondi356: Looks like Aurelio will be laid to rest tonight in such a grand sendoff. Meanwhile, Diana & Amado are still in Greece.
El Final del Paraíso
Thank you, deb. Another fine recap.
Didn’t get a chance to circle back yesterday. Halimacandy, your comments are always a great read. And a thank you to MCM for the insights.
I don’t know what’s kept Calvo from just shooting Diabla in the head--oh yeah, the writers.
Nice send off for Daniel. I was waiting for Lucia, too, but I guess they couldn’t find her. Maybe she will turn up later to take up the cause.
Horrible end for Paola. I guess her DEA skills didn’t do her any good. Did she know Jota was accused of Laura’s murder before she left?
What a relief—Mateo lived to tell all and warn of more to come.
So glad we didn’t see the dog attack and I hope we don’t see the aftermath. Costly mistake, Titi.
That conversation between Mari and Moncho was interesting. She wanted to dose Black Hand because he needs to “explain what he said about my dad. Do you know what it’s like to have your family screwed over?” (And she has no clue her brother is now in danger.) Then Moncho said, “what do you know about my life? You don’t even know why I’m here.”
Yes, deb, the Russian flight attendant. She’s been listening in on some conversations.
dondi356
Steve, I’ve only seen pieces of the show over the past couple days. I have to catch up, but I did see that Corina has been stalking Ojeda. She saw him raping Dalila and was about to shoot when Ismael stopped her.
I would think send off for Aurelio will be special.
I’ve noticed that many of the characters are having flashbacks to their interactions with Aurelio. I’m wondering if this will continue throughout the season in tribute to Aurelio and to keep the Aurelio fans from a total revolt.
dondi356
Thanks, deb for the info on Telemundo.
100 Días Para Enamorarnos has some interesting cast members, most notably Isabella Sierra who was wonderful as Sofia in LRDS2!
"Mother" Issa and "daughter" Fadul reunited in Operacion Pacifico!
I haven't seen anything onscreen for La Doña 2 yet.
dondi356
Dondi356: If Ismael hadn't gotten there, it's likely Corina would've whacked Ojeda.
Ojeda is a DISGUSTING piece of SHIT. Violating Dalia like that was stomach-churning, that man is downright NUTS.
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