Monday, October 28, 2019

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019

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• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

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Sin-Senos4 #54

Sal not only brought Mariachis to Hilda's house but a nice bouquet of flowers and a ring, the Colonel brought Mateo and news of Jo's escape.

Mari is stalled at Rod's place, no hope for Colombia for 2 weeks, she begs a phone call (and I'm thinking Titi, why can't I remember he's dead) and calls mom, she wants Cg to get her daughter, then endures the lecture, oh and she is with Nanita.

Santi walks in on Sebas and Alex, busted, doc Santi wants to know what drug they are on, Sebas wants to know where his parents were when he was growing up.

Diabla wants Barbas close when Alf is in town, rooftop sniper, but first kill Calvo.

Cg can hardly face Vane, confessing that her daughter also kidnapped Vane's.

Jo gets a makeover, tonight Jo dies, as well as Sal, Cinderella, and any other idiots that get in the way.

Alf arrives in town, Val welcomes him with a smooch.

sly Barbas sneaks in and stabs Calvo as he lies in his hospital bed but Calvo's no dummy and wrestles the knife to stab him in the neck and... when the nurse arrives they are both out on the floor, blood everywhere, Calvo has a pulse.

Santi spills to the gang about Sebas, Shadow tells him to dump it on his mom, you are in hiding (let's hear your advice when you find out Sebas is with your son)

the Hand has been grounded for 2 days, sends Santos to check on the pilot so he can have some private time with Sasha.

Cardonita shows the ladies around his home, they like but where's Titi? I guess security was tight coming in because a presidential candidate also flew in.

Mari is spinning in withdrawal, Moncho talks moms to her, you only have one, would you want your daughter treating you like you treat your mom, she gets it, Cg will always be her mom, even if she kills her.

Cg takes her crack swat team along with the Colonel's to take down a safe house with one nanny and one little girl, success, but where is Titica, or Catica as she calls her.

Jota is getting snotty, rips up the pic of his next opponent, wants to talk to his wife (wait till he hears Nanita has been recovered, look out)

Titi arrives with his daughter, Cuina doesn't look like the mothering type.

Santos is back, helps zip up Sasha's dress, shows Hand their new hacker toy, they listen in on Sebas's call to Cg, Cg makes a lunch date with Sebas, Hand likes, now to get the location, grab Alex and kill Sebas, his dad, CG and any other idiots that get in the way.

the Rod calls Marino, Hand's hacker, who admits nothing, Rod wants him to pass on a message, wants $500,000 for 2 people he is hiding.

Cg is cracking, but checks in with her mom, next with Santi who spills on Sebas going druggy, then she just drives off, where is she going everyone asks?

the Shadow gang are having beers (they haven't eaten anything for days now have they?) Emilia says something about tomorrow, the Hand will show his location, what?

Mari doesn't trust the Rod, and he's not liking their whispering, Moncho is caught in the middle.

Mari hopes Cg got Titica.

 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: I see that Ojeda told Navarro to SHOVE IT when it comes to doing his job with the CIA, DEA, etc.,

Over in Greece: Amado still has no clue that Volpi & Co., are plotting against him ?

Meanwhile at the Casillas household: Diana still moping over her recent strife with Amado, Ritula sure doesn't like or trust the Colombians LOL.

Jaime (BPN 2.0) yelling at Berenice, who is now nagging at him non-stop. I'm getting the sense he's going to kill her down the road.
 

TELEMUNDO...

"Decisiones", "La nueva entrega de Decisiones regresa a Telemundo el martes 10 de diciembre a las 9pm/8C".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-W1Nuny04

 

SIN SENOS#4


DEB:

THANK...WELL WELL WELL.. WHEN SH@#$T HITS THE FAN.. WHO YOU GONNA CALL...MOMMY...MOMMA..MAMI!!
you could have knock me down with a feather!!!!!
 

Sin-Senos4 #55

(looks like 6 more weeks)

the main action at Cardonito's was changing Titica's diaper, but they did talk, Titi got his daughter's location from Dayana when she came to steal the formula.

Cg arrives home in her swat suit, blows up on Sebas and Alex, gives them 5 minutes to spill on the drug they took, or else, meanwhile she prays for help, not another Mariana, please.

Alex does spill his mother is dead and his father travels a lot.

Titi's plan is to give up the NWO to Alf, how? by exposing Diabla, and how will he get close to Alf, easy, at a speech he'll have two guys up front, one with a pic of Valeria, one with a pic of Diabla.

Calvo has survived his operation and since there was a crime, they call in the police, the Colonel gets a pic and recognizes Calvo.

let's see, Nat shot Calvo in the shoulder, Diabla conked him, and Barbas stabbed him, fresh out of the operating room he is on the move, a call to Ivan before he dumps his phone, they meet in an alley, Calvo collapses.

it's a hectic day for candidate Alf, but Lucrecia finally gets Valeria's documents for the wedding paperwork, is the ink still fresh?

Shadow's gang has a plan, Rog will interview Emilia where she will tell all she knows about the Hand, he'll come for her and... yea, yea, this will work.

Alf is laying it on thick with Valeria, wants her to ask Cg to be the maid of honor, Diabla is playing him for an idiot but likes that idea.

mushy time with Hilda and Sal, Sal can't go back to his place, Hilda won't leave hers, will he be moving in?

Cg orders the boys into her car and it's off to the office to get a blood test, yep positive.

the Colonel calls Cg, is it my sister, daughter, mother, nope, the Colonel spills on Calvo's hospital trip.

the plane is fixed, the Hand takes Rod's $500K deal, leaves Santos on the ground to supervise, he wants Mari and Moncho to suffer and to be able to watch it live (or maybe put it on his dark web pay tv channel), the ever too happy Santos gets a new (old) truck to drive. (did Hand say not to pay till he gets his son back) anyway Hand and Sasha get some private time, is it just them and the pilot on the plane?

Joy hires a killer to do in Hilda, (we know this guy?) he warns her about picking fights with people that are stronger than her.

Leticia and Mateo show at Hilda's, with Sal they are a team, Mateo will be her pr press rep undoing his wrong.

Diabla is beating on Al because he won't fight, he demands to see Cg, she also has his lab results but will let Val share it with him, he notices Diabla is alone, hmm (but who put the hood on him)

Jota also insists on talking to his wife before he fights, Mari was working his corner but Diabla says it's her now.

the DEA meet when Liset shows their link up connection with the fights, Cg logs on as Queen.

Rod gloats about his new fortune, he has sold out Mari and Moncho, and puts them on their knees, (I think it was Mari's whining that pushed him over the edge)

the DEA meet gets a call, it's Nat who puts on Calvo, he's ready to give up Diabla, but don't tell anyone, especially your agents, (duh, he's on the speaker phone but we know who he is referring too) but he doesn't give them a name.

 

Sin Senos 4

Deb, great recaps! Lu was smudging the loose powdery ink that proved Val's documents were copies just run off a cheap color printer instead of being old originals printed from an ink press, then signed with pen ink. Criminal Diabla should have been more professional with her forgeries. I loved Lu's discrete gotcha smirks.

Jo's hitman is likely one of Shadow's guys who'll rat on her.

Maybe Diabla ordered Al to don the mask before she entered the room?

-MCM
 

Sin-Seños4

El Final del Paraíso

Thank you, deb, for the Monday & Tuesday recaps and for the Decisiones info. Maybe Decisiones will take us through the holiday season?

Catagrande and Santi are a couple of clueless, hopeless parents, although Santi was never as bad as CataG. IIRC, Santi conveniently left out the part where Sebas went off on him. Sebas uses his sister’s rationale for bad behavior as Mari is perhaps seeing the light.

As for Calvo: hierba mala nunca muere, hopefully at least until he spills on Diabla. Does anyone think he deserves a happy ending for his son’s sake?

The walls are closing in on Diabla and I love that she has no idea of what’s coming. Will she be able to hitch a ride on Hand's plane?

Waiting for the Russian to play her hand (no pun intended).

MCM, could Jo have been at the Billar Diamante? I thought the hitman looked like Arturo but I’m unsure because we rarely see the Shadow gang outside in the light of day. And Arturo is the only one of the group who has some freedom of movement.

Maybe Diabla asked Valeria to put the mask on Albeiro?

dondi356

 

Sin Senos 4

Dondi, yeah I think the hitman is Arturo and Al will be kicking himself when he realizes he should have told Cata G about "Valeria's" secret problems with Diabla. Cata G could have had Valeria tailed to find Diabla.

-MCM
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: I see Amado is still in Greece ? WTH is he doing still over there ? Sight-seeing.

Meanwhile, the Casillas family needs to focus on finally going after El Capo once & for all.

 

sin-senos4

thanks guys!

MCM, so simple, Al telling Cata about Valeria's ties to Diabla.

dondi, I thought Arturo, but like you said we don't see these guys in the daylight much.

and I too am liking how Diabla has become clueless (maybe from hanging around Cg too much) to the walls closing on her. (that clueless thing is pretty contagious)

I wonder what Al's lab results show, of course anything Diabla would want them to say.

Hand's son is the weakness Titi was looking for in the beginning, looks like he might slip up, how do you think Alex will react to his real dad, ha!

is the Rod playing his hand too soon, not sure how that will work for him, this guy is just unlikable standing there.


 

Señor7

Steve,

The Casillases are annoying me more than ever this season, now that Aurelio is gone. Really can’t stand Ismael. He always looks like he just rolled out of bed still half asleep. Rutila is useless. Corina is going insane with grief. Poor disrespected Alba, the crazy old granny no one takes seriously. I still like Super Javi, though.

The way I see it Amado and Diana were good guys who just got caught up in family ish somehow. They shouldn't be in this business.

Gotta laugh when Amado gets on his high horse—he won’t push Fentanyl because it kills people but Coke is fine and dandy. And now he’s starting a narco war in Europe to save his Greek friends.

Maybe I’m not supposed to but I’ve always liked Cabo; he adds humor to the show. I didn’t like it when he killed Monica & Felina. Joaquin is a good pairing with him but I miss Tijeras.

I never saw Jaime as completely evil. He was led down that path by that psycho Teran. Jaime was a stupid lackey who allowed himself to be blackmailed.

dondi356

 

SIN SENOS #4

DEB:

YES!!!...OH HECK!! YES!!

I HAVE been on the QT..J.O.B…...BUT trust me!!! This week has me ..LOSING- MY- MIND...!..fast.rapid paced... IT’S BEEN- OFF- THE- CHAIN !!

THEY BLEW- THE- JOINT- UP.!!...it's LIT...!!... SMOKING!!!! And final-wise...enlighting as well ...!

YES... WHO-DAT-MOMMA... and whose-THAT- BITCH...!!.oh yes!!...Ms.Thing… Momma-CG…...she put -them- in- check…Better-Recognize!! see-how, those two teenagers jumped to and asked- how high!!

Titi’s plan... okay??!! Pilar is a good mom…when he told the group abt who Valeria was... he brought the room to silence,, he shut everybody up.. you had to lift -their- jaw- off- the- floor.. he blew everyone’s mind!!

Marimeth and Monchy... old time pal was aloser and bum...2$$% long[ what ever his name is]he is dead…

Whydid, Lulu rub the seal in front of Valeria... stop antagonizing that she-devil

Emilia on tv... okay??talk... make sure, it’s prerecorded broadcast

CALVO IS DYING...RIGHT?? YEAH-RIGHT ?!…...EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS TOO MEAN TO DIE… SING- LIKE -a-vulture buzzard- BIRD FIRST...DROP-DAT-DIME...on Yessica

Yessica ,girl you are abt to go down...at your wedding??

Hidla has cojones… Sal has a real woman... what’s with that old aszz- Mexican music in Columbia... don’t they listen to Bachatas… Merenges ,Samba-Reggae ??

Yes... we know the guy, Jo hired... unless he plans to betray Shadow??

Al kick aszz... diablo , where- your -boys- at??

Calvo...CALVO...CALVO.!!.CALVO…ITS GOT ME HYPED!!!!!

DONDI:

YES...CLUELESS AND PUNK- ASZZ PARENTS... what do you do!!
sit -on -their-aszz and drive them cray cray with day therapy and maybe quit that cursed job!!

Yes... you know Yessica is cray cray, she aint going quiet-like, she going to kill somebody...!!

Russian hand ,,nasty...yuck... with BH...ginger please!!
Santos I am ready to se you get payback you freak!!

 

SIN SENOS

MCM:

YES.. WHY DIDNT AL, SPEAK UP...
BUT THE lines has already synchronized..

WHAT?? DECISIONS??!! WHAT...WHEN!! OMG.. !! CAN I GET SOME TIME!! TO SAVOR YESSICA'S DOWN FALL!!

WHEN??!! OVER the holidays!!wha????????
 

Sin-Senos4 #56

Santos arrives at Rod's hideaway, they tie up M & M (Mari and Moncho), and open a bottle and are well on their way by the time Mari frays her ropes and is free, untying Moncho, they make a run for it in a hail of drunken bullets, Moncho is grazed.

The Hand calls Diabla, he's coming to Pereira, wants help with son Alex, friend of Sebas, more like a bloodbath, she's in.

Cg and the Colonel are off to see Calvo, Liset is in charge of the boys, Vane can go home.

Sebas finds his mom annoying, Alex has a pic of his parents, they look at it (it's Emilia and Hand), Liset rounds them up and they are off to grandmas.

Jo is smug in her world, tears up a pic of Hilda.

Hilda lets Leticia know Sal will be staying there, oooo, Mateo arrives with smiles, he has lined up interviews for Hilda, he'll make her shine again, the queen of fashion. (when her door is open we see police guarding her place)

Emilia is set for a tv interview which is promo'd, she has also offered a reward for Hand (she has a rich brother) Shadow flips, every crook in the country will show up for the money, Zoraya thinks someone will rat him out.

Hand gives Sasha his wish list, 1) get his son 2) kill all that took him away, 3) torture Emilia.

Titi's happy, he will unmask Diabla, just watch tv and see, and he will take down Hand, actually Hand's ex-wife will do it.

Hand calls Diabla, he wants her to take out Emilia.

Hilda tells Leticia she told Cg about her daughter, that she looked like one of her employees, tells Leticia to bring lots of pictures of her.

Jota's keeper tells Diabla Barbas is dead and Calvo is gone, she says, if Calvo talks she is dead.

Vane takes Nanita to see Marcela and Albeirito, Marcela admits to liking Al, Vane's face is in a twist a lot lately.

Arturo shows up and tells of a lady wanting him to kill Hilda.

Val shows up in Al's room, if he doesn't fight Diabla won't give her brother the meds, ok he'll do it but he's hoping Calvo will... Valeria says he fooled you.

Sebas is happy seeing Hilda, but falls back into his snotty teenage ways when he finds out Cg brought her up to date, she wants respect and Liset isn't leaving because she lives here.

Cg finally gets her alone chat with Calvo, he has conditions, she yawns but makes the call, she can get him extradited to the U.S., 65% reduction in sentence, etc, etc, he wanted more but he wants Diabla most, he's fading fast ... always around you ... ... valeria... and he's out (did you hear, did you hear) unconscious from blood loss, off to the ambulance, Cg spills, he gave a name.

drunk Santos and Rod find M & M's blood trail, Santo stays while Rod takes the truck for a look around.

Hilda tells Sebas and Alex drug horror stories, uncle Bayron the sicario, dead on the tracks.

Santos corners M & M, but Moncho gets the drop on him, Mari grabs the gun and it's adios Santos, wait, Moncho finds the xy5 formula on a flash drive, not sure where as Santos shoes are off and his pants are pulled down when Rod finds the body, he calls Marino and has him track Santo's phone which they also took.

Rog brings Emilia to the station for her live interview, Sebas and Alex choke, is that your mother?

Hand is also watching and wants another bourbon, Sasha slips a pill into it, he gulps it down, Diabla rings Sasha, it's done, good I want him out for awhile, he won't like the reception when they land that she has planned. (wait I saw him move)

 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: Now Jaime is being blackmailed by El Capo (who has the video of Jaime & BPN taking Mayra's body out of Los Pinos). I'm surprised we haven't seen Gomez Labrador at Los Pinos yet this Season.

I agree with you on the hypocrisy of Amado pushing coke to kill more people. No wonder why the Trump White House wants the Border Wall.

Plus, I also agree with you that the Casillas family's incompetence & non-stop distractions could lead to their possible downfall now that Aurelio is dead.



 

SIN SENOS..
DEB
yes... Al is going to hug and comfort a distressed woman in a heartbbeat..poor me ,i need comforting!!

diabla has her hot hands all over him..

LIVE TV. BROADCAST??!! Emilia.. I'm worried???..Sasha doped BH out of his mind...works for me..

DEVIL'S SISTER IN LAW/Diabla ,got to give her credit !!!she kissed the man's aszz and then took over..PERCOCET AND MOLLY, PERCOCET...MASK OFF.. DROPPED HIS ASZZ!![ MASK OFF- by Future and Chris Brown]

WTF!!CALVO..CALVOO..SPILL TEA....calvo calvo... he was dying and still a greedy pig!!!..

CG.. pump your brakes and CLAVO ...'You-Can-MISS-ME'-with-all- that- Extra!'......greedy bastard..GC, what is you thinking.. !you're tripping!! the man is half dead.. WTF!! is you doing..I would have been talking to a dial tone!!
 

SIN SENOS

CALVO.CALVO CALVO..MISS-ME-WITH-THAT-EXTRA -SH#$T'

HALIMACANDY ON THE QT..JOB
 





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