Friday, March 06, 2020
Me Declaro Culpable #14, 3/6/20: Guess Who is Coming to Dinner
If you guessed Paolo, you’d be wrong. Here’s what went down today.
It wasn’t pretty.
Ensalada Interruptus
Alba has forgiven herself for misjudging Franco and the two are having a lawyer-client conversation complete with hand-fondling. They talk mainly about how Ingrid has turned Gabe against her and there’s nothing she can do about it. She doesn’t blame him, since of course she is an assassin. He rejects that notion. He does admit that hers is a difficult case, but they will prevail. He tells her not to lose faith. He asks her to go out for a salad as friends, not missing an opportunity to put his arm around her waist and then both hands on her shoulders. Olga, the secretary cum spy recruited by Bertie makes a call.
Bertie has just returned from her treatment at the hands of Dr. Luciana Matasanos, or in this case Metaesperma. She knows she must rest but promptly cuts her off when Olga’s call comes in, who passes on what she just observed. Alba and Franco have barely enjoyed a couple of bites and a couple of “looks” when a dark shadow passes in front of them. Bertie sidles up to the table. She explains she needed to talk to Franco and since he wasn’t in his office guessed he might be here. She’s quite civil, pleasant and offers apologies to Alba for interrupting. Alba jumps up from the table (it hard to say why—feeling guilty?), ceding her place to Bertie. Alba excuses herself and Bertie sits down. After some back and forth as to who deserves the salad, Franco tells her she can have his salad, too, and gets up and leaves telling her to enjoy. Bertie samples the broccoli.
Eyes Wide Open
Gabe and Pedro are sitting on Ingrid’s front stoop having a heart-to-heart about girls. Gabe admits to not having had a girlfriend yet. The one Pedro offers him seems too immature. Just then a knock-out dame drives up in a convertible wearing dark glasses, hair flying around her. Gabe’s eyes pop out. Oh darn, it’s Pedro’s mother come to take him shopping. Gabe declines the invitation to Pedro. They exchange bro-taps while Ingrid sneaks a look from a crack in the open door. Once inside, Ingrid asks him how it went. Gabe is a little sad because of what and how he told Pedro about his problems with his mother. Ingrid says he’s not to blame for him mother’s actions. She’s the assassin here. She hugs him and gives him (what I think) is an inappropriate kiss on the neck.
Franco is MIA, but not Julián
Nat has rushed into Franco’s office only to find him not there. She despairs his absence, but not for long. Breathlessly, Julián catches up with her and is about to give her another dose of his acrid advice when Franco walks in. She hugs him and melts into his arms. Julián is the extra in the room until Bertie breezes in and ushers Nat gently to the rooftop terrace for some girl talk. Now Franco is also an extra in the room. He and Julián stare each other down.
Nat is a Pushover in Bertie’s Hands
No, she didn’t go over the parapet. Nat valiantly tries to stand her ground. She’s furious that both Julián and her mother lied to her. Bertie wears her down with talk about whose life is really going to be ruined if she opens her mouth to her daddy. What’s done is done she continues. Nat will never be able to give him back his legs, certainly not by telling her daddy the truth. Nat tries to halt her mother’s pronouncements. Not only did she ruin Paolo’s life, but she ruined her own life as well. (Paolo at that moment is desperately trying to call Nat to find out what gives with her silence and to please call him back. Natalia notices his call but doesn’t answer.) Mama continues, she acknowledges Nat made a mistake….Mistake counters Nat? It’s something she’ll have to live with the rest of her life. Then Franco joins them. He wants to hear whatever was bothering her from Nat directly, not Bertie’s version. He tells her to shut it several times, but Bertie blabs on, giving Nat cues as to what is “really” wrong—she’s anxious about all the family’s problems, isn’t that right, Neni? Nat caves and goes along with Bertie’s version.
Looking for Lost Loves in all the Right Places
Mauro is wandering around in a modest neighborhood. He learns Maria Luisa died about 20 years ago.
Teatime (Nat—Don’t Drink the Tea, for Heaven’s Sakes)
Julián, who shows up wherever and whenever he’s not wanted, arrives unannounced in Nat’s bedroom bearing a cup of tea. He tries to make her feel better by saying it was Paolo’s destiny to end up the way he did. She rejects that notion. He says her destiny would have been different. As is, she’s in a heap of trouble. (In case he happens not to recall, he’s the one that told her at the time of the accident to look around and if she didn’t see anyone, she should take off.) Nat says she can’t stand it. She can’t keep quiet. She has to talk. Julián wonders to whom, her daddy? What does she think will happen if she tells him? Nat doesn’t know—make her pay, put her in prison, she deserves it. Julián scoffs at that idea. She would be putting Franco in a difficult position—a conflict of interest, or doesn’t she remember he’s Paolo’s attorney. He’s sure the matter can be managed. There are no witnesses and Paolo is alive; yes, he’s paralyzed, but he’ll get ahead, just watch. Julián then climbs across the bed to hold her. She struggles and then gives up.
Ok, Boomer
Bianca and Alba discuss how to get in communication with Gabe without breaking the restraining order. Bianca saw a movie where the dad sent his child messages through music on the radio. Alba points out that young people don’t listen to music on the radio anymore. Alba is grateful to her for all the help she’s offered without compensation. Bianca is Alba’s guardian angel. She retires and Bianca volunteers to do the cleanup. On cue, Gael arrives. (This is our comic relief, folks, so enjoy it.) He’s famished. She’s just closing. Ah well, he knows a place that is open where they can get a meal prepared by a super chef. Just where is this? His apartment. For real? She tells him he never changes. He says she is the only one who rejects him. He’ll do anything if it helps him have a chance with her. She suggests doing dishes.
Bertie Volunteers
Julián and Bertie go to the dark side. She opines that Julián must make sure Nat never opens her mouth to her father. Julián opines that it’s easier to remove Paolo from the telenovela they are in. Bertie grins. She volunteers for the job. It’s right down her alley.
Money Can’t Buy a Breakup
Paolo sits in his apartment. He’s given up trying to reach Natalia. The doorbell rings. He’s surprised to see El Commendatore. Well, actually, it’s Bertie, looming larger than life. She tells Paolo that her Neni isn’t well at all. And oh, she’s returned to Julián. He doesn’t believe her and tries to tell her. But she continues. In compensation for Paolo’s agreeing to get out of her daughter’s life for ever, she’s offering him a big, big sum of money, which he surely needs. Paolo feels she should be giving that check to Julián to make him leave her alone. She continues to ignore his statements. Oh, she ends, find another attorney.
Breakfast But it’s Not at Tiffany’s
Julián has changed into a Spring ensemble. He’s happy Nat agreed to have breakfast with him. Then the doorbell rings. Julián sees it’s horny Ingrid. He blocks her passage inside before Nat can see her and tells her he’s with his novia. That just gets Ingrid even hornier. He smashes his lips on hers, whirls her around, grabs her mouth, smashes her lips again and sends her packing. Nat wonders who was at the door. Julián tells her it was the apartment manager and something about a tenant. She’s such a pain.
Julián is a gato, not a jefe
Paolo wheels into the bufete demanding to see Franco. He’s quite pissed about something—probably the cheque, assuming these rich folks had something to do with it. Julián steps in to take care of the matter, letting Paolo know that Franco was not in. Paolo wheels out and goes back home. Dante urges Paolo to call her until he gets through.
Sra. Robinson I Presume?
Gabe goes to see Pedro. He shows up without calling ahead. His very attractive mother tells Gabe Pedro is out with his girlfriend, but why not come in for lemonade and a chat and maybe he’ll return. Oh, and please call her Julieta. Soon she is recounting her sad tale of becoming an orphan (not sure at what age) when her father killed her mother and then committed suicide. (Didn’t we just see that in Rubí?) Then the talk gets around to “love,” but it’s probably hormones. She reaches over to cuddle him. He misreads the signal and makes an effort to kiss her on the lips. She pushes him away and jumps up. (I guess she’s not Sra. Robinson.) Gabe flees, embarrassed and angry at himself. Alba chooses that moment to call him. He barks at her to leave him alone. Just then Franco walks in the coffee shop, sees Alba’s distress and *she* reaches for *him* and they hug. They sit down to talk and Nat walks in. He’s there to pick up a take-out and head for court. She just came in for something to drink.
Nat sits down to talk to Alba. They both put their phones on the counter (it’s a plot propeller, folks). When Nat’s phone rings with Paolo on the other end, Alba picks it up instead. She hands it to an unwilling Natalia. He asks if it’s true, that she’s gone back with that idiota. Nat gives Paolo the kiss of death—they’re over and don’t call her anymore. She hangs up. He tries again, but her v-mail is full. Nat is visibly upset and asks if Alba can accompany her home. She agrees.
Mauro is so Lonely He Could Die
Guess Who is Coming to Dinner?
Nat thanks Alba for seeing her home. She feels a lot better now. They hug. Of course Bertie walks in on the nice hug. Nat wants Alba to stay for dinner. (Oh, boy, poor Nat is so out of the loop on the relationship between Alba and Roberta—since it includes lots of hair pulling.) Alba tries to excuse herself, but Nat continues to insist. Bertie accedes (sarcastically) and welcomes her to stay for dinner. Of course, she also wants Nat to buck up and not pull any of her estupideces in front of her father.
Julián, Mauro and Franco arrive home for dinner. Franco sees Alba and says he’s happy to see her. (Oh, oh, not too far away, Paolo is on the warpath.) Everybody is now seated at the very large dining table set with fine bone china, crystal and silver. There are green and white flower arrangements scattered about and they seem to be eating lasagna. Bertie takes every opportunity she can and then some to mark her territory (aka Franco) and does it with a smile, knowing Alba is looking on.
Bertie begins to reminisce how only a short while ago, they were dining just like this and discussing Alba’s crime, her legal problems and whether Franco should take the case and spring her from jail. And now, here she is, dining in *her* house. Nat speaks up. Now is not the time. Bertie sneers, of course it is.
Saved by the bell. The maid announces it’s Paolo wanting to see Natalia. Julián gets up to intervene but Franco tells him to sit down and let Natalia do what she must do. Paolo tells Natalia he can’t just be paid off. Natalia can't say anything nor look at him. He hands her the check. No one has to pay him to stay away from her. Just saying the word was enough. Franco and Bertie appear, followed by Julián and Mauro, Alba bringing up the rear. They listen as he tells her he gave her for free what he valued the most, his love. Franco asks him if he’s ok. No, he’s not, not at all. All he feels is the contempt they have for him, and not just them, it’s everybody who sees him in the street because he can’t use his legs. Natalia hasn’t looked at him nor spoken a word. He asks if she has nothing to say, why she’s rejecting him. Natalia finally speaks. Yes, she has something to say and she’ll tell him the whole truth. (Gee, we don’t even get to see the cara de impactada de la familia.)
Anyway, the music thunders and the virtual curtain comes down on the episode.
Ensalada Interruptus
Alba has forgiven herself for misjudging Franco and the two are having a lawyer-client conversation complete with hand-fondling. They talk mainly about how Ingrid has turned Gabe against her and there’s nothing she can do about it. She doesn’t blame him, since of course she is an assassin. He rejects that notion. He does admit that hers is a difficult case, but they will prevail. He tells her not to lose faith. He asks her to go out for a salad as friends, not missing an opportunity to put his arm around her waist and then both hands on her shoulders. Olga, the secretary cum spy recruited by Bertie makes a call.
Bertie has just returned from her treatment at the hands of Dr. Luciana Matasanos, or in this case Metaesperma. She knows she must rest but promptly cuts her off when Olga’s call comes in, who passes on what she just observed. Alba and Franco have barely enjoyed a couple of bites and a couple of “looks” when a dark shadow passes in front of them. Bertie sidles up to the table. She explains she needed to talk to Franco and since he wasn’t in his office guessed he might be here. She’s quite civil, pleasant and offers apologies to Alba for interrupting. Alba jumps up from the table (it hard to say why—feeling guilty?), ceding her place to Bertie. Alba excuses herself and Bertie sits down. After some back and forth as to who deserves the salad, Franco tells her she can have his salad, too, and gets up and leaves telling her to enjoy. Bertie samples the broccoli.
Eyes Wide Open
Gabe and Pedro are sitting on Ingrid’s front stoop having a heart-to-heart about girls. Gabe admits to not having had a girlfriend yet. The one Pedro offers him seems too immature. Just then a knock-out dame drives up in a convertible wearing dark glasses, hair flying around her. Gabe’s eyes pop out. Oh darn, it’s Pedro’s mother come to take him shopping. Gabe declines the invitation to Pedro. They exchange bro-taps while Ingrid sneaks a look from a crack in the open door. Once inside, Ingrid asks him how it went. Gabe is a little sad because of what and how he told Pedro about his problems with his mother. Ingrid says he’s not to blame for him mother’s actions. She’s the assassin here. She hugs him and gives him (what I think) is an inappropriate kiss on the neck.
Franco is MIA, but not Julián
Nat has rushed into Franco’s office only to find him not there. She despairs his absence, but not for long. Breathlessly, Julián catches up with her and is about to give her another dose of his acrid advice when Franco walks in. She hugs him and melts into his arms. Julián is the extra in the room until Bertie breezes in and ushers Nat gently to the rooftop terrace for some girl talk. Now Franco is also an extra in the room. He and Julián stare each other down.
Nat is a Pushover in Bertie’s Hands
No, she didn’t go over the parapet. Nat valiantly tries to stand her ground. She’s furious that both Julián and her mother lied to her. Bertie wears her down with talk about whose life is really going to be ruined if she opens her mouth to her daddy. What’s done is done she continues. Nat will never be able to give him back his legs, certainly not by telling her daddy the truth. Nat tries to halt her mother’s pronouncements. Not only did she ruin Paolo’s life, but she ruined her own life as well. (Paolo at that moment is desperately trying to call Nat to find out what gives with her silence and to please call him back. Natalia notices his call but doesn’t answer.) Mama continues, she acknowledges Nat made a mistake….Mistake counters Nat? It’s something she’ll have to live with the rest of her life. Then Franco joins them. He wants to hear whatever was bothering her from Nat directly, not Bertie’s version. He tells her to shut it several times, but Bertie blabs on, giving Nat cues as to what is “really” wrong—she’s anxious about all the family’s problems, isn’t that right, Neni? Nat caves and goes along with Bertie’s version.
Looking for Lost Loves in all the Right Places
Mauro is wandering around in a modest neighborhood. He learns Maria Luisa died about 20 years ago.
Teatime (Nat—Don’t Drink the Tea, for Heaven’s Sakes)
Julián, who shows up wherever and whenever he’s not wanted, arrives unannounced in Nat’s bedroom bearing a cup of tea. He tries to make her feel better by saying it was Paolo’s destiny to end up the way he did. She rejects that notion. He says her destiny would have been different. As is, she’s in a heap of trouble. (In case he happens not to recall, he’s the one that told her at the time of the accident to look around and if she didn’t see anyone, she should take off.) Nat says she can’t stand it. She can’t keep quiet. She has to talk. Julián wonders to whom, her daddy? What does she think will happen if she tells him? Nat doesn’t know—make her pay, put her in prison, she deserves it. Julián scoffs at that idea. She would be putting Franco in a difficult position—a conflict of interest, or doesn’t she remember he’s Paolo’s attorney. He’s sure the matter can be managed. There are no witnesses and Paolo is alive; yes, he’s paralyzed, but he’ll get ahead, just watch. Julián then climbs across the bed to hold her. She struggles and then gives up.
Bianca and Alba discuss how to get in communication with Gabe without breaking the restraining order. Bianca saw a movie where the dad sent his child messages through music on the radio. Alba points out that young people don’t listen to music on the radio anymore. Alba is grateful to her for all the help she’s offered without compensation. Bianca is Alba’s guardian angel. She retires and Bianca volunteers to do the cleanup. On cue, Gael arrives. (This is our comic relief, folks, so enjoy it.) He’s famished. She’s just closing. Ah well, he knows a place that is open where they can get a meal prepared by a super chef. Just where is this? His apartment. For real? She tells him he never changes. He says she is the only one who rejects him. He’ll do anything if it helps him have a chance with her. She suggests doing dishes.
Bertie Volunteers
Julián and Bertie go to the dark side. She opines that Julián must make sure Nat never opens her mouth to her father. Julián opines that it’s easier to remove Paolo from the telenovela they are in. Bertie grins. She volunteers for the job. It’s right down her alley.
Money Can’t Buy a Breakup
Paolo sits in his apartment. He’s given up trying to reach Natalia. The doorbell rings. He’s surprised to see El Commendatore. Well, actually, it’s Bertie, looming larger than life. She tells Paolo that her Neni isn’t well at all. And oh, she’s returned to Julián. He doesn’t believe her and tries to tell her. But she continues. In compensation for Paolo’s agreeing to get out of her daughter’s life for ever, she’s offering him a big, big sum of money, which he surely needs. Paolo feels she should be giving that check to Julián to make him leave her alone. She continues to ignore his statements. Oh, she ends, find another attorney.
Breakfast But it’s Not at Tiffany’s
Julián has changed into a Spring ensemble. He’s happy Nat agreed to have breakfast with him. Then the doorbell rings. Julián sees it’s horny Ingrid. He blocks her passage inside before Nat can see her and tells her he’s with his novia. That just gets Ingrid even hornier. He smashes his lips on hers, whirls her around, grabs her mouth, smashes her lips again and sends her packing. Nat wonders who was at the door. Julián tells her it was the apartment manager and something about a tenant. She’s such a pain.
Julián is a gato, not a jefe
Paolo wheels into the bufete demanding to see Franco. He’s quite pissed about something—probably the cheque, assuming these rich folks had something to do with it. Julián steps in to take care of the matter, letting Paolo know that Franco was not in. Paolo wheels out and goes back home. Dante urges Paolo to call her until he gets through.
Sra. Robinson I Presume?
Gabe goes to see Pedro. He shows up without calling ahead. His very attractive mother tells Gabe Pedro is out with his girlfriend, but why not come in for lemonade and a chat and maybe he’ll return. Oh, and please call her Julieta. Soon she is recounting her sad tale of becoming an orphan (not sure at what age) when her father killed her mother and then committed suicide. (Didn’t we just see that in Rubí?) Then the talk gets around to “love,” but it’s probably hormones. She reaches over to cuddle him. He misreads the signal and makes an effort to kiss her on the lips. She pushes him away and jumps up. (I guess she’s not Sra. Robinson.) Gabe flees, embarrassed and angry at himself. Alba chooses that moment to call him. He barks at her to leave him alone. Just then Franco walks in the coffee shop, sees Alba’s distress and *she* reaches for *him* and they hug. They sit down to talk and Nat walks in. He’s there to pick up a take-out and head for court. She just came in for something to drink.
Nat sits down to talk to Alba. They both put their phones on the counter (it’s a plot propeller, folks). When Nat’s phone rings with Paolo on the other end, Alba picks it up instead. She hands it to an unwilling Natalia. He asks if it’s true, that she’s gone back with that idiota. Nat gives Paolo the kiss of death—they’re over and don’t call her anymore. She hangs up. He tries again, but her v-mail is full. Nat is visibly upset and asks if Alba can accompany her home. She agrees.
Mauro is so Lonely He Could Die
Guess Who is Coming to Dinner?
Nat thanks Alba for seeing her home. She feels a lot better now. They hug. Of course Bertie walks in on the nice hug. Nat wants Alba to stay for dinner. (Oh, boy, poor Nat is so out of the loop on the relationship between Alba and Roberta—since it includes lots of hair pulling.) Alba tries to excuse herself, but Nat continues to insist. Bertie accedes (sarcastically) and welcomes her to stay for dinner. Of course, she also wants Nat to buck up and not pull any of her estupideces in front of her father.
Julián, Mauro and Franco arrive home for dinner. Franco sees Alba and says he’s happy to see her. (Oh, oh, not too far away, Paolo is on the warpath.) Everybody is now seated at the very large dining table set with fine bone china, crystal and silver. There are green and white flower arrangements scattered about and they seem to be eating lasagna. Bertie takes every opportunity she can and then some to mark her territory (aka Franco) and does it with a smile, knowing Alba is looking on.
Bertie begins to reminisce how only a short while ago, they were dining just like this and discussing Alba’s crime, her legal problems and whether Franco should take the case and spring her from jail. And now, here she is, dining in *her* house. Nat speaks up. Now is not the time. Bertie sneers, of course it is.
Saved by the bell. The maid announces it’s Paolo wanting to see Natalia. Julián gets up to intervene but Franco tells him to sit down and let Natalia do what she must do. Paolo tells Natalia he can’t just be paid off. Natalia can't say anything nor look at him. He hands her the check. No one has to pay him to stay away from her. Just saying the word was enough. Franco and Bertie appear, followed by Julián and Mauro, Alba bringing up the rear. They listen as he tells her he gave her for free what he valued the most, his love. Franco asks him if he’s ok. No, he’s not, not at all. All he feels is the contempt they have for him, and not just them, it’s everybody who sees him in the street because he can’t use his legs. Natalia hasn’t looked at him nor spoken a word. He asks if she has nothing to say, why she’s rejecting him. Natalia finally speaks. Yes, she has something to say and she’ll tell him the whole truth. (Gee, we don’t even get to see the cara de impactada de la familia.)
Anyway, the music thunders and the virtual curtain comes down on the episode.
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Anita..wow..who knew that there were so many creative synonyms for easy women. Overwhelming !!! Are there as many for wonanizers ?
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Short and to the point Anita thank you. Now we gonna have to wait all
Through the weekend wondering will
She or won't she? Monday comes and she didn't. I will be surprised if
Sh does.
Berti is a horrible person. Most of that family is horrible.
Mauro is a dirty ol man.
I wish natty would stop being so weak and tell it. Girl tell it.
Julian is slime, The worst kind. The
One that sticks. Like a barnical. To nat. Ok Im cold goin to bed.
Short and to the point Anita thank you. Now we gonna have to wait all
Through the weekend wondering will
She or won't she? Monday comes and she didn't. I will be surprised if
Sh does.
Berti is a horrible person. Most of that family is horrible.
Mauro is a dirty ol man.
I wish natty would stop being so weak and tell it. Girl tell it.
Julian is slime, The worst kind. The
One that sticks. Like a barnical. To nat. Ok Im cold goin to bed.
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: Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:41:00 PM EST
: Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:41:00 PM EST
My goodness ANITA, you were at your finest in this one. Loved to the nth degree every one of your italicized headings, but these were especial favorites:
Ensalada interruptus
OK Boomer
Breakfast (but it's not at Tiffanys)
Señora Robinson
And of course the marvelous title. I'll be thinking of Sidney Poitier all day now. And humming "Here's to you Mrs. Robinson..."
And so many delicious phrases, like:
Hand fondling
Dr. Metaesperma
acrid advice
mucho hugging
I'm having trouble finding any character I genuinely like. Other than Bianca and that rascally Gael, the others are too whiny, too nasty or too sickeningly sweet. Oh well, that's my couple from hereon in...Bianca and Gael. The rest I just find annoying. (Okay, well I'm somewhat hawt for Dante. He's a good guy, centered, and appears to make very tasty sandwiches. All excellent qualities.)
You were definitely at the top of your game, lady. Thanks for a great read and a super recap.
Ensalada interruptus
OK Boomer
Breakfast (but it's not at Tiffanys)
Señora Robinson
And of course the marvelous title. I'll be thinking of Sidney Poitier all day now. And humming "Here's to you Mrs. Robinson..."
And so many delicious phrases, like:
Hand fondling
Dr. Metaesperma
acrid advice
mucho hugging
I'm having trouble finding any character I genuinely like. Other than Bianca and that rascally Gael, the others are too whiny, too nasty or too sickeningly sweet. Oh well, that's my couple from hereon in...Bianca and Gael. The rest I just find annoying. (Okay, well I'm somewhat hawt for Dante. He's a good guy, centered, and appears to make very tasty sandwiches. All excellent qualities.)
You were definitely at the top of your game, lady. Thanks for a great read and a super recap.
PS I really like the idea of Alba being Mauro's love-child. That way he'll have the horror of knowing he's been working against the offspring of his Great Love. Plus Franco will realize his destiny is to be linked and in love (or not) with two sisters. MESSY!
Bien hecho, Anita. Love the subheads.
My favorite line was eatime (Nat—Don’t Drink the Tea, for Heaven’s Sakes) Julián, who shows up wherever and whenever he’s not wanted, arrives unannounced in Nat’s bedroom bearing a cup of tea.
I was also wondering whether there was some meaning to the closeup if the teacup.
So here I am wondering what happened to her brain cells since the opening episode when she recognized that Julian had drugged her wine. While the tea didn't appear to have been drugged she should never have accepted it. However, we would have far less of a story if she had simply driven to a hospital or police station straight from the accident scene.
I counted 19 utterances of the horrible word "nene" in this episode, eight of which were directed directly to Natalia. The first six were in the course of ten minutes. Roberta is seriously attempting to infantilize Natalia because she insists upon maintaining control of her. That is what is draining Natalia's ability to control her own life.
There were only two "shushes", but that is enough to raise the hairs on the back of my head.
We know nothing about Julian's parents; he has never mentioned them yet. Maria Louisa, the woman Mauro knocked up, has been dead for 20 years. Notice that he didn't ask any questions about her of the neighbor who told him this. This will delay any further information.
What was with Bianca going into Alba's room?
Finally, I see Roberta more as a villainous version of Giorgio Germont (If you've ever seen Thomas Hampson in that role to Rene Fleming's Violetta). She doesn't give a crap about her daughter's feelings about anything; only her own.
Judy, I like that, too. It is so operatic.
My favorite line was eatime (Nat—Don’t Drink the Tea, for Heaven’s Sakes) Julián, who shows up wherever and whenever he’s not wanted, arrives unannounced in Nat’s bedroom bearing a cup of tea.
I was also wondering whether there was some meaning to the closeup if the teacup.
So here I am wondering what happened to her brain cells since the opening episode when she recognized that Julian had drugged her wine. While the tea didn't appear to have been drugged she should never have accepted it. However, we would have far less of a story if she had simply driven to a hospital or police station straight from the accident scene.
I counted 19 utterances of the horrible word "nene" in this episode, eight of which were directed directly to Natalia. The first six were in the course of ten minutes. Roberta is seriously attempting to infantilize Natalia because she insists upon maintaining control of her. That is what is draining Natalia's ability to control her own life.
There were only two "shushes", but that is enough to raise the hairs on the back of my head.
We know nothing about Julian's parents; he has never mentioned them yet. Maria Louisa, the woman Mauro knocked up, has been dead for 20 years. Notice that he didn't ask any questions about her of the neighbor who told him this. This will delay any further information.
What was with Bianca going into Alba's room?
Finally, I see Roberta more as a villainous version of Giorgio Germont (If you've ever seen Thomas Hampson in that role to Rene Fleming's Violetta). She doesn't give a crap about her daughter's feelings about anything; only her own.
Judy, I like that, too. It is so operatic.
Anita, thank you for that fun recap.
So what is up with Gabe...gay? Straight? Unsure? I started teaching in a senior high at the age of 22 right out college, and I can tell you that teen boys are hormones in shoes. I am trying to remember where I saw the actress playing Hot Mama before. I have not seen her in anything in a long time.
Does Neni means something or is it just a term of endearment?
The actor playIng Pedro gets a lot of roles. Way way back , I remember Sylvia Captain Sharkbait crushing on him as Frank the soldier in Duelo De Pasiones
So what is up with Gabe...gay? Straight? Unsure? I started teaching in a senior high at the age of 22 right out college, and I can tell you that teen boys are hormones in shoes. I am trying to remember where I saw the actress playing Hot Mama before. I have not seen her in anything in a long time.
Does Neni means something or is it just a term of endearment?
The actor playIng Pedro gets a lot of roles. Way way back , I remember Sylvia Captain Sharkbait crushing on him as Frank the soldier in Duelo De Pasiones
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 9:06:00 AM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 9:06:00 AM EST
Susamlynn, are you sure you don't mean Pablo Montero who starred in that (as Emiliano)? He looked great in a military uniform and he looks exactly the same in person.
OMG Anita SO. MUCH. GIGGLES.
Let me jump in with my favorites that haven't yet been mentioned -- I started laughing with "if you guessed Paolo, you'd be wrong" and just kept on going. "Eyes Wide Open" was a keeper, and I loved the Commendatore reference. And let's not forget "Julian, who shows up wherever and whenever he's not wanted..." So true!
Gang, our instincts were correct when we saw that closeup teacup -- it WAS drugged, and now Bertie's colluding. There was a brief snippet of conversation just after where Bertie said, "Did you find the pills"? and Julian replied, "Yes, I put them in the tea." (Ugh. I was SURE when she went to whip out the check for Paolo it was going to be a cellphone picture of poor unconscious Nat in bed with the Lizard. I wouldn't put it past her.)
And what were those breakfast drinks at Julian's pad? They looked like split pea mimosas. You notice Nat didn't sip any of THAT.
Let me jump in with my favorites that haven't yet been mentioned -- I started laughing with "if you guessed Paolo, you'd be wrong" and just kept on going. "Eyes Wide Open" was a keeper, and I loved the Commendatore reference. And let's not forget "Julian, who shows up wherever and whenever he's not wanted..." So true!
Gang, our instincts were correct when we saw that closeup teacup -- it WAS drugged, and now Bertie's colluding. There was a brief snippet of conversation just after where Bertie said, "Did you find the pills"? and Julian replied, "Yes, I put them in the tea." (Ugh. I was SURE when she went to whip out the check for Paolo it was going to be a cellphone picture of poor unconscious Nat in bed with the Lizard. I wouldn't put it past her.)
And what were those breakfast drinks at Julian's pad? They looked like split pea mimosas. You notice Nat didn't sip any of THAT.
JudyB, can I pull up a chair at the Gael table? I've been a huge Alejandro Avila fan ever since he played a lovelorn mariachi in TERESA. He does have great comic presence.
The hot mama, by the way, is Margarita Magana, another of my favorites. She was the screechy Aiiiiiida in TERESA and later played young Fina in CME. She also had a small part in LQLVMR.
The hot mama, by the way, is Margarita Magana, another of my favorites. She was the screechy Aiiiiiida in TERESA and later played young Fina in CME. She also had a small part in LQLVMR.
That green beverage looked like a sample of a drink I got yesterday while at Barnes and Noble. The girl handing them out told me what was in it, but I wasn't paying attention...kale? Broccoki? Kiwi? something very green.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 12:19:00 PM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 12:19:00 PM EST
UA..Pablo was in that one, too. It was the one where Ana Martin had that magical , mystical green, glowing coffee in a cave . Avila was a soldier in uniform named Frank. I think there was also an exotic dancer.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 12:22:00 PM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 12:22:00 PM EST
We've seen green juices at ovela breakfasts before. I'm sure they're of some fruit we don't usually make juices of here.
I lost the line about the pills which makes Roberta even more despicable.
I lost the line about the pills which makes Roberta even more despicable.
SUSANLYNN -- Nena is a term of endearment that means 'Girl' or ' little girl' , a diminutive form of "niña". Neni as Roberta uses it is a variation of that. And as has already been mentioned, it keeps Natalia in her place as a little girl, submissive to her controlling manipulative mother,
Google Trandlate said it meant "baby" which really got my dander up.
Roberta looks like she might be right up (or down) there with Catalina and Ursula as Most Toxic Mother. I will post a discussion on that soon
Roberta looks like she might be right up (or down) there with Catalina and Ursula as Most Toxic Mother. I will post a discussion on that soon
Anita – thank you for your recap! You brought on the snark. ;-) I love the title and your sub-headings.
My favorite line --- ”Julián opines that it’s easier to remove Paolo from the telenovela they are in.”
I loved “Metaesperma”. That doctor needs to lose her license. I’m still hoping Bertie claims to be pregnant and Franco has had a vasectomy without her knowledge.
Pedro’s mom is quite a hottie. This could turn out to be a Summer of ’42 thing. ( I recognize the actress from ADCLG and Un Gancho Al Corazon.)
“He learns Maria Luisa died about 20 years ago.” Again with the “ veinte años” thing. What is it with “veinte años” and telenovelas? My forty-something y/o English conversation student from Mexico says it is not a “thing” down there, so who knows…
”Natalia finally speaks. Yes, she has something to say and she’ll tell him the whole truth. “
Riiiiiight. Something will happen or someone will interrupt her for, like, the 23rd time. If she really truly wanted to get this off her chest, she would tell people to “callate” and just say it.
I really want to know if Gael did the dishes at the No-Tell Coffee shop. (he probably not)
My favorite line --- ”Julián opines that it’s easier to remove Paolo from the telenovela they are in.”
I loved “Metaesperma”. That doctor needs to lose her license. I’m still hoping Bertie claims to be pregnant and Franco has had a vasectomy without her knowledge.
Pedro’s mom is quite a hottie. This could turn out to be a Summer of ’42 thing. ( I recognize the actress from ADCLG and Un Gancho Al Corazon.)
“He learns Maria Luisa died about 20 years ago.” Again with the “ veinte años” thing. What is it with “veinte años” and telenovelas? My forty-something y/o English conversation student from Mexico says it is not a “thing” down there, so who knows…
”Natalia finally speaks. Yes, she has something to say and she’ll tell him the whole truth. “
Riiiiiight. Something will happen or someone will interrupt her for, like, the 23rd time. If she really truly wanted to get this off her chest, she would tell people to “callate” and just say it.
I really want to know if Gael did the dishes at the No-Tell Coffee shop. (he probably not)
Wow--You all got a head start on my weekend! Great comments.
UA--ITA that Bertie is effectively keeping Nat infantilized. The only time she has shown any maturity at all is when she is alone with Paolo. Let's see how far that gets her now that he's (sort of) accepted her break-up with him (which we all know won't be for long--unless it lasts until the penultimate episode).
Here's another guessing game--where have you seen Pedro, Gabe's friend, before? Those eyebrows have been indelibly burned into my brain, but from where?
Did anyone recognize him as Adriancito (little friend of Daniel's daughter Laura) in Eva Luna and again as Andresito (who had cancer and had to appear with his head shaved and in isolation) in Cuando Me Enamoro? He's certainly grown into a better looking young man, but oh those eyebrows never changed. His name is Christian Vega. He's just 22 now. He's actually been in a lot of other tns, but ones I never watched.
UA--ITA that Bertie is effectively keeping Nat infantilized. The only time she has shown any maturity at all is when she is alone with Paolo. Let's see how far that gets her now that he's (sort of) accepted her break-up with him (which we all know won't be for long--unless it lasts until the penultimate episode).
Here's another guessing game--where have you seen Pedro, Gabe's friend, before? Those eyebrows have been indelibly burned into my brain, but from where?
Did anyone recognize him as Adriancito (little friend of Daniel's daughter Laura) in Eva Luna and again as Andresito (who had cancer and had to appear with his head shaved and in isolation) in Cuando Me Enamoro? He's certainly grown into a better looking young man, but oh those eyebrows never changed. His name is Christian Vega. He's just 22 now. He's actually been in a lot of other tns, but ones I never watched.
JudyB--Had to read your P.S. twice. Of course it's possible. Alba is just the right age. What a dilemma for Mauro--exacto! And for Roberta who wastes no time in calling her ZORRA.
BTW--I found the list of synonyms for Prostitute. It was Pablo Villanueva that graced us with the list during the run of El Hotel de los Secretos. Dare I copy it here? Roberta so deserves recognition for our heightened interest in the word. Give me some encouragement, folks. It's a long list!
BTW--I found the list of synonyms for Prostitute. It was Pablo Villanueva that graced us with the list during the run of El Hotel de los Secretos. Dare I copy it here? Roberta so deserves recognition for our heightened interest in the word. Give me some encouragement, folks. It's a long list!
Whoops...not "coffee"...that was supposed to be " cofre . "
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 2:50:00 PM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 2:50:00 PM EST
Speaking of Natalia and her being "infantized" by Roberta . . . just how old is she supposed to be? And why isn't she working at a job somewhere?
And where is my telenovela beanie hat?
And where is my telenovela beanie hat?
Doris--If she doesn't HAVE to work, she must be deciding what to do with her life. That takes time. Franco and Bertie certainly don't have any problem with her hanging around with Julian or Valentina.
I'm guessing she's either finishing university or is in a gap year. Irina is 27. For some reason I labeled her "teenage daughter" of Franco and Bertie in my personal cast list after the first episode. We've never seen her carry a book or be filmed "going to" university. But she's certainly very naïve or very old fashioned (wanting to be a virgin when she marries). I vote for naïve.
Gabe and Pedro are very definitely high school. They actually have homework.
I'm guessing she's either finishing university or is in a gap year. Irina is 27. For some reason I labeled her "teenage daughter" of Franco and Bertie in my personal cast list after the first episode. We've never seen her carry a book or be filmed "going to" university. But she's certainly very naïve or very old fashioned (wanting to be a virgin when she marries). I vote for naïve.
Gabe and Pedro are very definitely high school. They actually have homework.
Susanlynn--Thank you for another visual gem, "...teen boys are hormones in shoes." I'm sure those shoes are high top Air Jordans, no?
Perhaps we have to add a suspended disbelief vest in addition to our beanies at some point.
Rob got a lot of roughage if she indeed did consume both of those salads. Maybe she just needs more fiber in her diet. Oatmeal for breakfast might help her.
Daniela always goes above and beyond to deliver a welldressed villain we can love to hate...teeth bared vvvv and eyes set on stun mode. GRrrr.....love her heart.
Rob got a lot of roughage if she indeed did consume both of those salads. Maybe she just needs more fiber in her diet. Oatmeal for breakfast might help her.
Daniela always goes above and beyond to deliver a welldressed villain we can love to hate...teeth bared vvvv and eyes set on stun mode. GRrrr.....love her heart.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 4:01:00 PM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 4:01:00 PM EST
Doris--I'll post the list. I just didn't want anyone on our Patio offended. I'm saving the old list of bleeped swearwords from novelera for private sharing.
Anita, I started teaching in that senior high with quite a few other young women who had just graduated from college, so we were 22 and the seniors were 17-18. My first day I ran into 2 senior guys who played legion baseball with my fiancee. It was interesting .
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 4:05:00 PM EST
: Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 4:05:00 PM EST
Susanlynn--Our teachers in Jr. High and High School had all been around the block several times. No one to get a crush on. Had to settle on worshiping "older" guys and the cutest ones on the football team. Finally ran out of "older" guys when I was a senior and settled for someone my own age (which lasted through our first year in college--different schools, hard to keep the flame alive).
We should listen for how long Franco and Roberta have been married and subtract a year or two to determine Natalia's age.
As for her wanting to preserve her virginity, we don't know if that was it. I think it was the realization that Julian is not The One.
As for her wanting to preserve her virginity, we don't know if that was it. I think it was the realization that Julian is not The One.
That was funny, Anita! Thanks! I loved your headings, especially "Ensalada Interruptus" and "Sra. Robinson I Presume".
I guess Paolo is forever destined to stay in the entryway of Casa Urzua. There are so many random steps and sunken rooms in that house. Hopefully we'll get to see the caras de impactadas first thing in the next episode.
Looks like Gabriel is bisexual. Why limit yourself to 50% of the population? Pedro was much cuter when he was the sweet kid with leukemia in Cuando. Somehow they just aren't as cute as mouthy teenagers.
I was wondering when we could start ragging on Paolo's manbun. It is not a good look for him. Very few guys can pull it off. If you'd like a nice example of who can, please google Ricky Rubio who used to play b-ball for the Jazz and is now with the Suns. Hubba Hubba.
UA, I liked your Hair List from yesterday. Good stuff!
UGH!!! Why would Natalia be in the presence of somebody who has drugged her drink, let alone accept a cup of tea or green juice from him?
Alba, being more of a lady than I, still hasn't told Franco about the hair pulling incident. I would have tattle-tailed so fast, and also done my darndest to stay far away from the hair puller. I would NOT have walked her daughter into the hair pullers home, let alone stay for dinner. QTH?
This whole TN is a QTH, and that's why we love it so much!
I guess Paolo is forever destined to stay in the entryway of Casa Urzua. There are so many random steps and sunken rooms in that house. Hopefully we'll get to see the caras de impactadas first thing in the next episode.
Looks like Gabriel is bisexual. Why limit yourself to 50% of the population? Pedro was much cuter when he was the sweet kid with leukemia in Cuando. Somehow they just aren't as cute as mouthy teenagers.
I was wondering when we could start ragging on Paolo's manbun. It is not a good look for him. Very few guys can pull it off. If you'd like a nice example of who can, please google Ricky Rubio who used to play b-ball for the Jazz and is now with the Suns. Hubba Hubba.
UA, I liked your Hair List from yesterday. Good stuff!
UGH!!! Why would Natalia be in the presence of somebody who has drugged her drink, let alone accept a cup of tea or green juice from him?
Alba, being more of a lady than I, still hasn't told Franco about the hair pulling incident. I would have tattle-tailed so fast, and also done my darndest to stay far away from the hair puller. I would NOT have walked her daughter into the hair pullers home, let alone stay for dinner. QTH?
This whole TN is a QTH, and that's why we love it so much!
RLO—
But you have to admit it’s a superior QTH TN than some of the mierda we were being offered in the afternoon. I have a feeling that the producer and directors expected this to be prime time fare, but Univision thought otherwise.
But you have to admit it’s a superior QTH TN than some of the mierda we were being offered in the afternoon. I have a feeling that the producer and directors expected this to be prime time fare, but Univision thought otherwise.
"I have a feeling that the producer and directors expected this to be prime time fare, but Univision thought otherwise."
I have been suspecting the same thing, Anita. And we benefit from that. This is light years better than HIJAS. 😜
I have been suspecting the same thing, Anita. And we benefit from that. This is light years better than HIJAS. 😜
Anita, this is the first afternoon show I've watched! I am shocked it isn't primetime. Of course, there isn't enough trafonarfico crap for prime time. I can't stand that. Why do they think we like it? Rubi was a nice change of pace and this show is even better!
Well, that's not technically true. El Talisman started as a nighttime show but got demoted to daytime along the way. It was that good.
Good morrow, Patio--Everybody get enough sleep?
RLO--Ah, those were the days, El Talisman of Feathers, Cheques, the Big Belt Buckle and Inappropriate Behavior Between Screen Siblings.... I think Univision was so embarrassed by El Tal they banished it to daytime, not knowing there was a clutch of steadfast viewers and recappers that would make it a hit (as in hit bottom).
Even with only one go ahead on the list of synonyms for Prostitute, here it is:
Prostituta (the original, common business term)
P**a (the "affectionate" slang term, contraction of the original, we think)
Guila (goes with the wind)
Golfa (surrounded by coasts?)
Proxeneta (from the table of elements?)
Hetaira (sounds like a Greek goddess, LOL)
Buscona (looking for men)
Zorra and Perra(o), (the latter is more for a bad person)
Meretriz (artistic)
Cortesana (classic)
Mujerzuela (Easy woman)
Cualquiera (from ordinary, just a nobody)
Callejera (street walker, looking for customers)
Trotacalles (also street walker)
Aventurera (not in the Indiana Jones kind)
Suripanta (sounds like a gypsy)
Casquivana (Light foot)
Talonera (walks the streets too much damaging her heels)
Fichera (the ones from bars, that also charge for dancing)
Ponedora (similar to hens)
Ramera (he left this one out, but it is certainly used in many tns)
Piruja (he also left this one out—did he maybe mean piuja?)
Pécoras (Nandicta offered this one)
These are newer:
Singer (because it’s a machine that is very easy to use, I guess)
Pizza (because it gets delivered in less than 30 min.--SBIS)
Other:
Mujer de la vida galante
Mujer de la vida algre
Mujer fácil
Mujer de la noche
Mujer de cascos ligeros
Also Gallina de agua (water hen) because she even learned how to swim to be with the ducks.
RLO--Ah, those were the days, El Talisman of Feathers, Cheques, the Big Belt Buckle and Inappropriate Behavior Between Screen Siblings.... I think Univision was so embarrassed by El Tal they banished it to daytime, not knowing there was a clutch of steadfast viewers and recappers that would make it a hit (as in hit bottom).
Even with only one go ahead on the list of synonyms for Prostitute, here it is:
Prostituta (the original, common business term)
P**a (the "affectionate" slang term, contraction of the original, we think)
Guila (goes with the wind)
Golfa (surrounded by coasts?)
Proxeneta (from the table of elements?)
Hetaira (sounds like a Greek goddess, LOL)
Buscona (looking for men)
Zorra and Perra(o), (the latter is more for a bad person)
Meretriz (artistic)
Cortesana (classic)
Mujerzuela (Easy woman)
Cualquiera (from ordinary, just a nobody)
Callejera (street walker, looking for customers)
Trotacalles (also street walker)
Aventurera (not in the Indiana Jones kind)
Suripanta (sounds like a gypsy)
Casquivana (Light foot)
Talonera (walks the streets too much damaging her heels)
Fichera (the ones from bars, that also charge for dancing)
Ponedora (similar to hens)
Ramera (he left this one out, but it is certainly used in many tns)
Piruja (he also left this one out—did he maybe mean piuja?)
Pécoras (Nandicta offered this one)
These are newer:
Singer (because it’s a machine that is very easy to use, I guess)
Pizza (because it gets delivered in less than 30 min.--SBIS)
Other:
Mujer de la vida galante
Mujer de la vida algre
Mujer fácil
Mujer de la noche
Mujer de cascos ligeros
Also Gallina de agua (water hen) because she even learned how to swim to be with the ducks.
Good Morning, Mujerzuelas! (Just wanted to be the first to incorporate one of those words from Anita's fun list.) I really can't see myself ever using one of those words in the real world. It's astonishing how often they get thrown around in our shows.
Mujerzuela?? Me?? No-o-o... LOL My, my, what a rambunctious patio this is turning out to be! But I gotta luv it! :-)
Anita, thanks for the recap...and for the list of synonyms for Prostitute. I recognize most of them, but I've learned a few new ones LOL Anywho, the only thing that differentiates most of the synonyms from "prostitute" is that the others don't get paid for services rendered. So would that make them better...or worse? I wonder if an English list of synonyms would be just as long. Hmmmm...
I am really getting annoyed with Natalia. It sickens me to see how she allows Julian to touch her...ughhh! And everytime she gets up the nerve to tell daddy-o the truth, he is never around. Come to think of it, most of the time he is with Alba.
I'm not sure about Paolo's man bun. I was trying to think of a hairstyle that would be better for him so I googled his images...WOW! He can be very handsome, but in this TN, he is not even close...he, does however, remind me a lot of Mane de la Parra.
Anita, thanks for the recap...and for the list of synonyms for Prostitute. I recognize most of them, but I've learned a few new ones LOL Anywho, the only thing that differentiates most of the synonyms from "prostitute" is that the others don't get paid for services rendered. So would that make them better...or worse? I wonder if an English list of synonyms would be just as long. Hmmmm...
I am really getting annoyed with Natalia. It sickens me to see how she allows Julian to touch her...ughhh! And everytime she gets up the nerve to tell daddy-o the truth, he is never around. Come to think of it, most of the time he is with Alba.
I'm not sure about Paolo's man bun. I was trying to think of a hairstyle that would be better for him so I googled his images...WOW! He can be very handsome, but in this TN, he is not even close...he, does however, remind me a lot of Mane de la Parra.
Oh, and a propos Mujerzuelas--aren't we all sort of prostituting ourselves for the sake of Creativity and Improving our Spanish? After all, we could be taking a writing class or an on-line Spanish course, which would need to include pronounciation.
Thank you Anita! Yikes, I always thought golfa meant gold digger. That's what we came up with umpteen years ago while watching a Limavela (Peruvian telenovela). It is good to know better now!!!
Anita..wow..who knew that there were so many creative synonyms for easy women. Overwhelming !!! Are there as many for wonanizers ?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
Good call, Susanlynn, all we've ever heard was Mujeriego, but that's just a womanizer and not necessarily a male prostitute. Have we ever heard any names referring to male prostitutes?
Doris, don't rule out Golfa meaning gold digger. I didn't create the list, so I can only react. Golfa seems to be on the same level of nastiness as Zorra, according to Roberta, who uses it interchangeably.
Doris, don't rule out Golfa meaning gold digger. I didn't create the list, so I can only react. Golfa seems to be on the same level of nastiness as Zorra, according to Roberta, who uses it interchangeably.
RLO--This is funny. I looked up gigolo in the English portion of my Sp-Eng dictionary and the Spanish definition is:
--Bailarin professional en una sala de baile
However, gigolo in Spanish does not appear to be a word for which there is an English definition!
--Bailarin professional en una sala de baile
However, gigolo in Spanish does not appear to be a word for which there is an English definition!
Looks like gigolo has French origins :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigolo
The word gigolo may be traced to a first usage in English as a neologism during the 1920s as a back-formation from gigolette, a French word for a woman hired as a dancing partner. Both gigolo and gigolette were first recorded in French in the middle part of the 19th century, referring to dance club denizens in Montmartre paid to dance with, and sometimes have sex with, unaccompanied male visitors. In the latter part of the 19th century, particularly after the scandalous murder case known in Paris as the Pranzini Affair, the term gigolo took on connotations of the exotic, foreign male whose company and affections could be purchased by well-to-do French women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigolo
The word gigolo may be traced to a first usage in English as a neologism during the 1920s as a back-formation from gigolette, a French word for a woman hired as a dancing partner. Both gigolo and gigolette were first recorded in French in the middle part of the 19th century, referring to dance club denizens in Montmartre paid to dance with, and sometimes have sex with, unaccompanied male visitors. In the latter part of the 19th century, particularly after the scandalous murder case known in Paris as the Pranzini Affair, the term gigolo took on connotations of the exotic, foreign male whose company and affections could be purchased by well-to-do French women
Doris I found another name gor male
Prostitute. It's called: prosti-dude.
I kid you not. I ask Google and this is what came up. From an articale in the New York Times a while back. It was called:
"My night with a prosti-dude".
Prostitute. It's called: prosti-dude.
I kid you not. I ask Google and this is what came up. From an articale in the New York Times a while back. It was called:
"My night with a prosti-dude".
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:21:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:21:00 PM EDT
Yes gigolo does have French origins, I looked that up too.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
Wow..have we ever had a telenovela featuring a true gigolo ala Richard Gere as A paid lover ? I do not think that I have seen one.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 9:07:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 9:07:00 PM EDT
IF YOU ARE RECORDING CULPABLE, CHECK YOUR SCHEDULE. MINE SHOWS IT IS BEING BROADCAST AT 2:00 PM. It’s hard to say if the Daylight Saving Time got Comcast mixed up or not, but just to make sure, record both at 2 and at 3.
Thanks for the value-added, Anita. I heard Bertie call poor Alba "casquivana" the other day and had never heard that word before. But of course it's easy to guess what she means.
BTW, Nat definitely is -- or at least was -- a college student, because when Franco initially suggested she take some time away to get over the roofie incident, she said, "But I'll lose the whole semester!" And of course he said it doesn't matter, because you're going to be living at home until you're 30, anyway, and clearly you don't need a job. Well he may not have said that, but that's what I heard.
BTW, Nat definitely is -- or at least was -- a college student, because when Franco initially suggested she take some time away to get over the roofie incident, she said, "But I'll lose the whole semester!" And of course he said it doesn't matter, because you're going to be living at home until you're 30, anyway, and clearly you don't need a job. Well he may not have said that, but that's what I heard.
In am trying to remember where I have seen the actor playing Paolo before. He reminds me a little of Gabe Soto.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 9, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 9, 2020 at 10:00:00 AM EDT
Susanlynn—I never thought about it until you mentioned it, but I can see why you thought he reminded you a little of Gabe. The one he reminded me of was Pablo Lyle.
Juan Diego has been acting for a long time now. Thanks to Blue, I checked out his images. He definitely is much better looking with a regular man’s haircut rather than the man bun.
He’s been in Teresa, Amor Bravío (he was that nasty mujeriego Yago), De Que te Quiero te Quiero,, Una Familia con Suerte, and Mi Marido Tiene Más Familia
Which brings me back to the conversation we were having about what to call a male prostitute. I thought of Don Juan (quite a mujeriego himself), but none of the terms we came up with label the man exclusively as a prostitute—escort, gigolo could all be defined as “accompanying” or being “maintained” by a woman, but not necessarily involving sex, though it might be understood.
Juan Diego has been acting for a long time now. Thanks to Blue, I checked out his images. He definitely is much better looking with a regular man’s haircut rather than the man bun.
He’s been in Teresa, Amor Bravío (he was that nasty mujeriego Yago), De Que te Quiero te Quiero,, Una Familia con Suerte, and Mi Marido Tiene Más Familia
Which brings me back to the conversation we were having about what to call a male prostitute. I thought of Don Juan (quite a mujeriego himself), but none of the terms we came up with label the man exclusively as a prostitute—escort, gigolo could all be defined as “accompanying” or being “maintained” by a woman, but not necessarily involving sex, though it might be understood.
Oh, I like those googled pictures of Juan Diego without his manbun. He has a Jim Halpern thing going on.
I guess we can all agree that gigolos and escorts have certain prosti-dudey's that they perform.
I guess we can all agree that gigolos and escorts have certain prosti-dudey's that they perform.
Thanks for the heads up, Anita. Mine also shows it recording an hour early. Looks like it has swapped places with Como Dice El Dicho.
I like it, too, but although it fits right into our Caray Lexicon, I don’t think we’ll find it in Websters.
Susanlynn he does look a little bit like Gabe Soto. Just don't have the height. Still attractive tho. I won't be watching anything for a while, my cable is out. But I got the recap to
Look forward to.
Look forward to.
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