Monday, May 29, 2023
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Secretos de Sangre, Juego de Mentiras y más: Week of May 29, 2023
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- 9-11PM - Secretos de Sangre*
- 12-1AM - Juego de Mentiras**
*This Turkish novela will continue with two hour episodes this week.
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juego
I AM RE-POSTING DEB'S INTERESTING IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WENT ON AT THE AMUSEMENT PARK
I would be interested in hearing everyone's ideas as to the death of Mariana.
Mariana from Miami would have to be in place.
FJ was there per a phone call with Adriana.
Cesar was there with the fake passport per call by Pluto.
Pascual who knew the time and place from FJ had a ticket to the park.
Ale needed an alibi from Chuy who so far has none.
Chuy keeps seeing flashbacks of the kill. (but why would he know to be there)
Bugs Bunny would lead Cesar to the gun, that we assume was used.
Pascual said he killed her, and also knew it was Mariana.
1) did Adriana set up the kill to convince Cara she was dead, (but there is no remorse at the death of her sister).
2) the kill was set up so that FJ would know Adriana was dead and gone.
3) Cesar was set up so he would move on, or go to prison.
I AM RE-POSTING DEB'S INTERESTING IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WENT ON AT THE AMUSEMENT PARK
I would be interested in hearing everyone's ideas as to the death of Mariana.
Mariana from Miami would have to be in place.
FJ was there per a phone call with Adriana.
Cesar was there with the fake passport per call by Pluto.
Pascual who knew the time and place from FJ had a ticket to the park.
Ale needed an alibi from Chuy who so far has none.
Chuy keeps seeing flashbacks of the kill. (but why would he know to be there)
Bugs Bunny would lead Cesar to the gun, that we assume was used.
Pascual said he killed her, and also knew it was Mariana.
1) did Adriana set up the kill to convince Cara she was dead, (but there is no remorse at the death of her sister).
2) the kill was set up so that FJ would know Adriana was dead and gone.
3) Cesar was set up so he would move on, or go to prison.
Juego
#55 "Abre los ojos"
(I didn't have captions, so...)
FJ jumps on Pascual for being Adriana's lover, Renata twists things around to look like it was her plan.
Ale jumps on Chuy for killing Lucy, but how could she even think that, as he tells it.
Ines and Tomas are at the orphanage but Mother Superior isn't talking, Tomas runs into his little friend there, admits he and Ines are novios, but later says he has ruled out adoption, Ines has a plan.
sister Mariana (Adriana) laments all her problems.
Raimundo is now Cesar's lawyer, Cesar doesn't trust him, the brother of Ale.
flashbacks show Adriana and Chuy together, looks like it was all Chuy's plan.
Mother Superior sees a birthmark on sister Mariana's leg, knows it's Adriana, the bad twin.
Adriana looks at the orphanage files, sees Chuy is Renata's nephew, Mother Superior catches her.
FJ jumps on Chuy to find out who he was following to find Adriana, he finally spills (Chuy snickers after FJ leaves).
with his new ammo, FJ is back on Pascual, who can't shut him down.
Adriana looks at the orphanage files, sees Chuy is Renata's nephew, Mother Superior catches her.
Cesar doesn't pay off the guard after his birthday, gets a beat down.
#55 "Abre los ojos"
(I didn't have captions, so...)
FJ jumps on Pascual for being Adriana's lover, Renata twists things around to look like it was her plan.
Ale jumps on Chuy for killing Lucy, but how could she even think that, as he tells it.
Ines and Tomas are at the orphanage but Mother Superior isn't talking, Tomas runs into his little friend there, admits he and Ines are novios, but later says he has ruled out adoption, Ines has a plan.
sister Mariana (Adriana) laments all her problems.
Raimundo is now Cesar's lawyer, Cesar doesn't trust him, the brother of Ale.
flashbacks show Adriana and Chuy together, looks like it was all Chuy's plan.
Mother Superior sees a birthmark on sister Mariana's leg, knows it's Adriana, the bad twin.
Adriana looks at the orphanage files, sees Chuy is Renata's nephew, Mother Superior catches her.
FJ jumps on Chuy to find out who he was following to find Adriana, he finally spills (Chuy snickers after FJ leaves).
with his new ammo, FJ is back on Pascual, who can't shut him down.
Adriana looks at the orphanage files, sees Chuy is Renata's nephew, Mother Superior catches her.
Cesar doesn't pay off the guard after his birthday, gets a beat down.
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:22:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 3:22:00 PM EDT
juego
Thanks VERY much, deb, for this helpful recap. I just got done watching the episode, and your recap really covers everything important. Perhaps I can add a few details.
We see a flashback where Chuy suggests to Ale, "You'd look like a hero if you set Adriana free." Ale becomes delighted with this idea. When Ale asks him how he managed to deal with Lucy and hints that he may have killed her to shut her up, Chuy expresses hurt and astonishment. "You thought I killedher?" he asks. He insists, "I'm a man of faith, and I don't want to go to hell. I only helped with Adriana because I knew you'd free her." Ale begs Chuy's forgiveness for suspecting he would kill Lucy.
We see a worried Adriana at the convent. She thinks, "If Ines and Tomás could come here, so too could Chuy."
Tomás tells Camila that he's been reading about César's case in the newspapers, and things don't look good. Cami tells him that Rai has agreed to be César's lawyer. Tomás finally says what should have been obvious--if César is found guilty, the best Rai could do would still be a 10-year sentence.
Rai comes to see César. He admits to César that he has taken the case as a favor to Cami. César shows he's no fool. He tells Rai, "I bet you're doing this not to help me but to be sure I'll stay here." Bingo! That's exactly what Renata made clear to Rai that she wants. When Rai asks César about the email messages that Noelia and others received, César says they couldn't track the computer because it had government-type security. César suggests that perhaps Rai's sister Ale could be helpful. Rai has a flashback where Renata tells him that Ale did many questionable things to get where she is.
There's a rather long flashback of Adriana and Chuy enjoying the luxury of the del Rio house while the family is away. At one point, Adriana tells Chuy, "I'm naming my millionaire alter ego after my sister, Mariana." She then proposes the name "Mariana del Molino." I found this rather confusing. It seems to suggest that Adriana's sister Mariana had no real role in this saga, but that doesn't make much sense to me. Surely her sister did get killed at the amusement park. (And the birthmark that the Mother Superior sees on Adriana's leg seems pretty strong evidence that she's Adriana, not Mariana.)
Adriana sneaks into the orphanage office and goes through the files. She finds a record that tells her that it's Chuy's. And that Chuy is Renata's nephew. Adriana is stunned. When the Mother Superior catches her looking through the records, Adriana tells her that she overheard the Mother Superior talking to the couple (Tomás and Ines), and now she realizes that Chuy was abandoned by a rich family, that Chuy is Renata's nephew, and that "Chuy could have had the life we dreamed of. Renata took it from him." Later she thinks, "Chuy and Francisco are cousins!! ¡No puede ser!
Francisco confronts Chuy. "Was it my father who led you to Adriana's hiding place?" Eventually, Chuy reluctantly nods Yes. Francisco then asks, "Was my father Adriana's lover?" Chuy again reluctantly nods Yes and says, "I saw him kissing her. He was the one I followed." At that moment, of course, in bursts Pascual. "Is something wrong?" he asks. !!! Francisco tells him, "You slept with the woman I loved!" and storms out. Pascual goes after him. Chuy has a contented/evil smile on his face. He says, "Time to pay, Pascual. Adriana was mine."
At the end of the episode, a guard tells him "You didn't share your birthday present with me" and lets The Thugs into César's cell, where they beat him up severely. As they're doing this, César apparently has flashbacks to happier times with Noelia and Camila.
Thanks VERY much, deb, for this helpful recap. I just got done watching the episode, and your recap really covers everything important. Perhaps I can add a few details.
We see a flashback where Chuy suggests to Ale, "You'd look like a hero if you set Adriana free." Ale becomes delighted with this idea. When Ale asks him how he managed to deal with Lucy and hints that he may have killed her to shut her up, Chuy expresses hurt and astonishment. "You thought I killedher?" he asks. He insists, "I'm a man of faith, and I don't want to go to hell. I only helped with Adriana because I knew you'd free her." Ale begs Chuy's forgiveness for suspecting he would kill Lucy.
We see a worried Adriana at the convent. She thinks, "If Ines and Tomás could come here, so too could Chuy."
Tomás tells Camila that he's been reading about César's case in the newspapers, and things don't look good. Cami tells him that Rai has agreed to be César's lawyer. Tomás finally says what should have been obvious--if César is found guilty, the best Rai could do would still be a 10-year sentence.
Rai comes to see César. He admits to César that he has taken the case as a favor to Cami. César shows he's no fool. He tells Rai, "I bet you're doing this not to help me but to be sure I'll stay here." Bingo! That's exactly what Renata made clear to Rai that she wants. When Rai asks César about the email messages that Noelia and others received, César says they couldn't track the computer because it had government-type security. César suggests that perhaps Rai's sister Ale could be helpful. Rai has a flashback where Renata tells him that Ale did many questionable things to get where she is.
There's a rather long flashback of Adriana and Chuy enjoying the luxury of the del Rio house while the family is away. At one point, Adriana tells Chuy, "I'm naming my millionaire alter ego after my sister, Mariana." She then proposes the name "Mariana del Molino." I found this rather confusing. It seems to suggest that Adriana's sister Mariana had no real role in this saga, but that doesn't make much sense to me. Surely her sister did get killed at the amusement park. (And the birthmark that the Mother Superior sees on Adriana's leg seems pretty strong evidence that she's Adriana, not Mariana.)
Adriana sneaks into the orphanage office and goes through the files. She finds a record that tells her that it's Chuy's. And that Chuy is Renata's nephew. Adriana is stunned. When the Mother Superior catches her looking through the records, Adriana tells her that she overheard the Mother Superior talking to the couple (Tomás and Ines), and now she realizes that Chuy was abandoned by a rich family, that Chuy is Renata's nephew, and that "Chuy could have had the life we dreamed of. Renata took it from him." Later she thinks, "Chuy and Francisco are cousins!! ¡No puede ser!
Francisco confronts Chuy. "Was it my father who led you to Adriana's hiding place?" Eventually, Chuy reluctantly nods Yes. Francisco then asks, "Was my father Adriana's lover?" Chuy again reluctantly nods Yes and says, "I saw him kissing her. He was the one I followed." At that moment, of course, in bursts Pascual. "Is something wrong?" he asks. !!! Francisco tells him, "You slept with the woman I loved!" and storms out. Pascual goes after him. Chuy has a contented/evil smile on his face. He says, "Time to pay, Pascual. Adriana was mine."
At the end of the episode, a guard tells him "You didn't share your birthday present with me" and lets The Thugs into César's cell, where they beat him up severely. As they're doing this, César apparently has flashbacks to happier times with Noelia and Camila.
juego
I was most surprised at what this episode (#55) showed us about Chuy. I guess I had been assuming that Chuy was corrupted by Alejandra, but what we saw in this most recent episode is that Chuy has been a masterful plotter and liar for quite some time. I had originally said this in my comment above, but the website told me that what I had written was too long, so I cut out some parts until the website found its length acceptable. Oh well....
I was most surprised at what this episode (#55) showed us about Chuy. I guess I had been assuming that Chuy was corrupted by Alejandra, but what we saw in this most recent episode is that Chuy has been a masterful plotter and liar for quite some time. I had originally said this in my comment above, but the website told me that what I had written was too long, so I cut out some parts until the website found its length acceptable. Oh well....
juego
#56 - We get multiple Viewerville scares trying to convince us that César is going to die. His cellmate yells for help.
After it looks like days have gone by Camila finally decides to look for Berenice. Guess she needed to wait for the coma.
FJ tells his mother she knew all along that his father was jumping Adriana’s bones. She reluctantly admits that she knew from the beginning. He rightly blames her for continually lying and trying to pay off Adriana. Pascual bangs on the door, wanting to talk to FJ.
CaraChuy takes out a gun, looking diabolical. His plan is to shoot Big Ed and say it was FJ, after he found out about his father having a thing with the woman he loved.
Will there be any repercussions about a prisoner almost being killed in his cell? Someone had to open the cell door. By the way, I believe César did say something about giving the guard some of the money Elvira gave him. Guess it wasn’t enough.
Chuy sneaks up on FJ yelling at Pascual. I can’t tell where they are. Maybe at FJ’s apartment since CaraChuy drove there. He says he needs to record the quarrel. He pulls his gun. Viewerville wonders if Big Ed is toast, but Ale approaches, having been sent by Renata to check on them.
FJ tells Ale about Pascual and Adriana.
Cami meets with Berenice López, who can confirm that the guy who dropped the passport bearing the photo of the woman who was killed was not near where the shooting happened.
Elvira gets a call, sobs, and drops her groceries. Another attempt to trick Viewerville.
The nun gives Adriana the computer that’s been unblocked. Adriana is barely civil to the woman, who is looking at photos of Mariana’s children.
Pascual is getting it all off his chest. He sits Olga and Tomás down to tell them what he did to FJ.
FJ comes to find Cami at César’s house. Elvira tells him about what happened.
Cami does the bedside begging, telling him about Berenice. We get a flatline, then the usual resuscitation. The doctor tells Cami that the family needs to visit. He won’t make it through the night.
Tomás tells his parents that they no longer have children.
Adriana tells the Mother Superior that she’s going to go live the life of Mariana Stanford.
Cami tells Noelia about needing to go see César in the hospital.
#56 - We get multiple Viewerville scares trying to convince us that César is going to die. His cellmate yells for help.
After it looks like days have gone by Camila finally decides to look for Berenice. Guess she needed to wait for the coma.
FJ tells his mother she knew all along that his father was jumping Adriana’s bones. She reluctantly admits that she knew from the beginning. He rightly blames her for continually lying and trying to pay off Adriana. Pascual bangs on the door, wanting to talk to FJ.
CaraChuy takes out a gun, looking diabolical. His plan is to shoot Big Ed and say it was FJ, after he found out about his father having a thing with the woman he loved.
Will there be any repercussions about a prisoner almost being killed in his cell? Someone had to open the cell door. By the way, I believe César did say something about giving the guard some of the money Elvira gave him. Guess it wasn’t enough.
Chuy sneaks up on FJ yelling at Pascual. I can’t tell where they are. Maybe at FJ’s apartment since CaraChuy drove there. He says he needs to record the quarrel. He pulls his gun. Viewerville wonders if Big Ed is toast, but Ale approaches, having been sent by Renata to check on them.
FJ tells Ale about Pascual and Adriana.
Cami meets with Berenice López, who can confirm that the guy who dropped the passport bearing the photo of the woman who was killed was not near where the shooting happened.
Elvira gets a call, sobs, and drops her groceries. Another attempt to trick Viewerville.
The nun gives Adriana the computer that’s been unblocked. Adriana is barely civil to the woman, who is looking at photos of Mariana’s children.
Pascual is getting it all off his chest. He sits Olga and Tomás down to tell them what he did to FJ.
FJ comes to find Cami at César’s house. Elvira tells him about what happened.
Cami does the bedside begging, telling him about Berenice. We get a flatline, then the usual resuscitation. The doctor tells Cami that the family needs to visit. He won’t make it through the night.
Tomás tells his parents that they no longer have children.
Adriana tells the Mother Superior that she’s going to go live the life of Mariana Stanford.
Cami tells Noelia about needing to go see César in the hospital.
"JUEGO" EPISODE #56:
Novelera: We're just 24 episodes away from conclusion. Yet we're still seeing more annoying garbage with the villains continuing to win 24/7.
Will Cesar stay in prison FOREVER ?
Deb: Adriana will get discovered sooner or later!
Steve Boudreaux
Novelera: We're just 24 episodes away from conclusion. Yet we're still seeing more annoying garbage with the villains continuing to win 24/7.
Will Cesar stay in prison FOREVER ?
Deb: Adriana will get discovered sooner or later!
Steve Boudreaux
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 6:34:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 6:34:00 AM EDT
Juego
Novelera,thank you for the recap .
Wow,,who knew that Lady Chatterly' hedge clipping lover was going to turn out to be the mastermind of evil , A stone cold killer . A thug. He had me fooled . I felt sorry for him being used by Ale and ignored by the family. However, when I rewatched Big Bugs Bunny running and leaping away , I just knew that it was Chuy. Don't know why, but I just could see that disguised body was Chuy . I also couldn't understand that as DAMAS made her way through all the men ...FJ, Pasqual, and Tomas ....that she somehow missed the buffest guy ... Chuy.
The scene of DAMAS delightedly trying on shoes and jewelry as Chuy watched was interesting .
The scene of DAMAS meeting Pasqual for the first time was a study in what a master flirt DAMAS is and what a playboy Pasqual has always been .
Now that DAMAS knows that Thug \_Chuy is Valerie's son , what will she do ? Will we find out why Renata decided to take Thug out of the orphanage when he was 10?
I had to fast forward through Caesar's beating. Ugh
Novelera,thank you for the recap .
Wow,,who knew that Lady Chatterly' hedge clipping lover was going to turn out to be the mastermind of evil , A stone cold killer . A thug. He had me fooled . I felt sorry for him being used by Ale and ignored by the family. However, when I rewatched Big Bugs Bunny running and leaping away , I just knew that it was Chuy. Don't know why, but I just could see that disguised body was Chuy . I also couldn't understand that as DAMAS made her way through all the men ...FJ, Pasqual, and Tomas ....that she somehow missed the buffest guy ... Chuy.
The scene of DAMAS delightedly trying on shoes and jewelry as Chuy watched was interesting .
The scene of DAMAS meeting Pasqual for the first time was a study in what a master flirt DAMAS is and what a playboy Pasqual has always been .
Now that DAMAS knows that Thug \_Chuy is Valerie's son , what will she do ? Will we find out why Renata decided to take Thug out of the orphanage when he was 10?
I had to fast forward through Caesar's beating. Ugh
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:03:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 11:03:00 AM EDT
juego
great recap novelera !!!
yes, Adriana was a cheat, liar, and even a pole dancer at a sleazy club, which was ok for FJ, but his dad getting in on the action, well, that's a different story, if Ale put FJ to bed why did he wake up sitting on the couch, hangovers are no problem for this family.
I think Chuy was referring to the outside security cameras at FJ's place that recorded FJ's fight with Pascual.
and Tomas is back home disinheriting his family again.
and so Cami is elated that Cesar is innocent, be nice if she shared the evidence, as in getting the charges dropped.
sister Mariana's roommate seems put off by Adriana's antics, not even a thanks for the time and effort she put into Mariana's laptop, (or the $85 it cost her), and now she discovers Mariana has kids and isn't even a nun.
seems like Adriana being dead works because no one knows about the twin sister, so what will happen when Adriana becomes Mariana, will she go back to Miami?
great recap novelera !!!
yes, Adriana was a cheat, liar, and even a pole dancer at a sleazy club, which was ok for FJ, but his dad getting in on the action, well, that's a different story, if Ale put FJ to bed why did he wake up sitting on the couch, hangovers are no problem for this family.
I think Chuy was referring to the outside security cameras at FJ's place that recorded FJ's fight with Pascual.
and Tomas is back home disinheriting his family again.
and so Cami is elated that Cesar is innocent, be nice if she shared the evidence, as in getting the charges dropped.
sister Mariana's roommate seems put off by Adriana's antics, not even a thanks for the time and effort she put into Mariana's laptop, (or the $85 it cost her), and now she discovers Mariana has kids and isn't even a nun.
seems like Adriana being dead works because no one knows about the twin sister, so what will happen when Adriana becomes Mariana, will she go back to Miami?
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:10:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 1:10:00 PM EDT
juego
Wow, novelera! MANY THANKS for this very helpful recap. I wasn't sure I wanted to read it before I watched the episode, but I decided to do so, and I'm VERY glad I did. Thanks to your recap, I knew what to expect from all the false alarms. It made watching the episode a lot easier than it otherwise would have been.
There was one false alarm that you didn't mention. When Camila meets Berenice, Cami shows her César's photo, and Berenice says she doesn't remember him. Only when Cami mentions the passport does Berenice start to remember. "Oh, yes, the man with the passport." She is then able to tell Cami where she was, where César was, and that while all the people were running away from the scene of the shooting, César was heading toward it. He couldn't have been close enough to have been the shooter. Cami is ecstatic. She hugs Berenice and calls Elvira to give her the good news. Oops.
I missed Chuy's saying he wanted to record the fight between FJ and Pascual, but I did notice the security camera (and so did Chuy).
I found it strange and unsatisfying when Pascual tries to explain what it was about Adriana that obsessed both him and FJ. He replies something like "Secrets...and lies...and pain. She fooled us both, drove us crazy." There are lots of things that can turn me on, but secrets, lies, and pain???. And yes, we already knew that Adriana fooled both of them and drove them crazy. That doesn't help explain her immense appeal. Perhaps Pascual's inadequate response is supposed to indicate how inexplicable Adriana's appeal is, but I was hoping for something more from him, something that would explain how he could hurt and betray the son who worshipped him. He does tell Tomás that he (Pascual) doesn't have friends, because he's always afraid he might be attracted to one of their women. Yikes! (I suspect there's a word to describe this behavior/illness, but I can't think of what it might be.)
I guess it's true that few people seem to know that Adriana had a twin sister, but the Mother Superior knows, and both Pascual and FJ refer to their shared lover as Adriana, not Mariana. ???
Again, MANY THANKS!
Wow, novelera! MANY THANKS for this very helpful recap. I wasn't sure I wanted to read it before I watched the episode, but I decided to do so, and I'm VERY glad I did. Thanks to your recap, I knew what to expect from all the false alarms. It made watching the episode a lot easier than it otherwise would have been.
There was one false alarm that you didn't mention. When Camila meets Berenice, Cami shows her César's photo, and Berenice says she doesn't remember him. Only when Cami mentions the passport does Berenice start to remember. "Oh, yes, the man with the passport." She is then able to tell Cami where she was, where César was, and that while all the people were running away from the scene of the shooting, César was heading toward it. He couldn't have been close enough to have been the shooter. Cami is ecstatic. She hugs Berenice and calls Elvira to give her the good news. Oops.
I missed Chuy's saying he wanted to record the fight between FJ and Pascual, but I did notice the security camera (and so did Chuy).
I found it strange and unsatisfying when Pascual tries to explain what it was about Adriana that obsessed both him and FJ. He replies something like "Secrets...and lies...and pain. She fooled us both, drove us crazy." There are lots of things that can turn me on, but secrets, lies, and pain???. And yes, we already knew that Adriana fooled both of them and drove them crazy. That doesn't help explain her immense appeal. Perhaps Pascual's inadequate response is supposed to indicate how inexplicable Adriana's appeal is, but I was hoping for something more from him, something that would explain how he could hurt and betray the son who worshipped him. He does tell Tomás that he (Pascual) doesn't have friends, because he's always afraid he might be attracted to one of their women. Yikes! (I suspect there's a word to describe this behavior/illness, but I can't think of what it might be.)
I guess it's true that few people seem to know that Adriana had a twin sister, but the Mother Superior knows, and both Pascual and FJ refer to their shared lover as Adriana, not Mariana. ???
Again, MANY THANKS!
Juego
As Chuy's true killer character is being revealed, DAMAS is looking more and more BSC as she tells the nuns about her plan to take her twin's place. She gets those big , crazy eyes. Yikes . This girl has been on quite a tour of crazy. Poor Cesar, Noelia, and Elvira evidently had no idea how disturbed and dangerous she was. I hope they all survive .
As Chuy's true killer character is being revealed, DAMAS is looking more and more BSC as she tells the nuns about her plan to take her twin's place. She gets those big , crazy eyes. Yikes . This girl has been on quite a tour of crazy. Poor Cesar, Noelia, and Elvira evidently had no idea how disturbed and dangerous she was. I hope they all survive .
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 4:32:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 4:32:00 PM EDT
juego
Excellent comments, all. I just don't have it in me to write long recaps because of the crazy scheduling. As some of you know, DirecTV Latino gives me the option to watch three hours earlier, supposedly East Coast time. So I recorded the epi at 9PM CA time and put up a quickie.
Yes, I did see the camera at the place where FJ and his father were arguing. But I can't see how CaraChuy could have expected to have that film FJ being shot. I thought he was going to record the argument on the phone and that it would be used as evidence for FJ having killed his father. If Pascual were shot from where CaraChuy was standing, it would not incriminate FJ. Oh well, looking for logic in TNs can sometimes be fruitless.
My cheap psychiatrist analysis of DAMAS is that she was OK in the orphanage when she had Mariana by her side. Having her sister chosen and being left there warped her. She then became friendly with Cara Sucia, who seemed to be a budding psycho. I'm surprised they didn't show him torturing animals.
Juanita, DAMAS has said over and over that she's incapable of loving anyone. My guess is that a person like that would be able to suss out what other people want and manipulate them. We've seen her charm children, both at the foundation and later as a new nun at the orphanage. She manipulated Inés and got her $10K in debt for some clothing. She conned the designer into lending her clothes that she never returned.
At least it was a night without a GumChew sighting.
Excellent comments, all. I just don't have it in me to write long recaps because of the crazy scheduling. As some of you know, DirecTV Latino gives me the option to watch three hours earlier, supposedly East Coast time. So I recorded the epi at 9PM CA time and put up a quickie.
Yes, I did see the camera at the place where FJ and his father were arguing. But I can't see how CaraChuy could have expected to have that film FJ being shot. I thought he was going to record the argument on the phone and that it would be used as evidence for FJ having killed his father. If Pascual were shot from where CaraChuy was standing, it would not incriminate FJ. Oh well, looking for logic in TNs can sometimes be fruitless.
My cheap psychiatrist analysis of DAMAS is that she was OK in the orphanage when she had Mariana by her side. Having her sister chosen and being left there warped her. She then became friendly with Cara Sucia, who seemed to be a budding psycho. I'm surprised they didn't show him torturing animals.
Juanita, DAMAS has said over and over that she's incapable of loving anyone. My guess is that a person like that would be able to suss out what other people want and manipulate them. We've seen her charm children, both at the foundation and later as a new nun at the orphanage. She manipulated Inés and got her $10K in debt for some clothing. She conned the designer into lending her clothes that she never returned.
At least it was a night without a GumChew sighting.
juego
Weirdo, you mentioned recapping Thursday. Did you mean tonight at midnight, technically Thursday morning?
Weirdo, you mentioned recapping Thursday. Did you mean tonight at midnight, technically Thursday morning?
Juego
Thank you all for your recaps over the last few weeks, I've been reading them as I catch up which I finally have!
'CaraChuy'!! LOL I love it!!! I also like the development of Chuy as Cara Sucia, that actor is fascinating as a psycho! There's a lot said at times about whether it's more fun to play the good guy or the bad guy and I respect that, but I also just think some actors are just better in portraying one way or the other. As the good guy gardener, Chuy was fun to look at of course, but didn't really command attention otherwise; as a crazy eyed loon he steals the scene!
I'm thinking about Deb's questions and it seems clear that Chuy killed Mariana and that he's his own mastermind now, but I'm wondering if Adriana intentionally set up Mariana to be killed? It would seem so, but if she did then why try to get a fake passport? If she had PLANNED to assume Mariana's identity she wouldn't have needed a passport. I also don't think she intended to set up Cesar since she wants him at home taking care of Noelia. The big question in my mind is why was Mariana there? In the same place at the same time despite the fact the sisters haven't seen each other since they were kids. She HAD to have been there to meet up with Adriana! Whether DAMAS meant to have her killed or she was trying to reunite for another reason and she had no idea Chuy would kill her, she must have gotten Mariana to come to San Diego somehow, right? Was that her only interaction with this story? Or did Mariana have more involvement?
From the one sided conversation with Mariana's husband, it didn't sound like her marriage was on solid ground. We know the left behind Adriana turned out resentful and crazy but we've also seen that getting adopted didn't stop Chuy from turning out resentful, restless and crazy. I wonder what Mariana was like....
I'm not sure where we stand now with the who is Chuy's father question, but if he is Pascual's it means DAMAS didn't just sleep with father and son, she slept with father and two out of three sons while donating her eggs to son #3, that's pretty well not impressive, but she didn't miss any of them.
Thank you all for your recaps over the last few weeks, I've been reading them as I catch up which I finally have!
'CaraChuy'!! LOL I love it!!! I also like the development of Chuy as Cara Sucia, that actor is fascinating as a psycho! There's a lot said at times about whether it's more fun to play the good guy or the bad guy and I respect that, but I also just think some actors are just better in portraying one way or the other. As the good guy gardener, Chuy was fun to look at of course, but didn't really command attention otherwise; as a crazy eyed loon he steals the scene!
I'm thinking about Deb's questions and it seems clear that Chuy killed Mariana and that he's his own mastermind now, but I'm wondering if Adriana intentionally set up Mariana to be killed? It would seem so, but if she did then why try to get a fake passport? If she had PLANNED to assume Mariana's identity she wouldn't have needed a passport. I also don't think she intended to set up Cesar since she wants him at home taking care of Noelia. The big question in my mind is why was Mariana there? In the same place at the same time despite the fact the sisters haven't seen each other since they were kids. She HAD to have been there to meet up with Adriana! Whether DAMAS meant to have her killed or she was trying to reunite for another reason and she had no idea Chuy would kill her, she must have gotten Mariana to come to San Diego somehow, right? Was that her only interaction with this story? Or did Mariana have more involvement?
From the one sided conversation with Mariana's husband, it didn't sound like her marriage was on solid ground. We know the left behind Adriana turned out resentful and crazy but we've also seen that getting adopted didn't stop Chuy from turning out resentful, restless and crazy. I wonder what Mariana was like....
I'm not sure where we stand now with the who is Chuy's father question, but if he is Pascual's it means DAMAS didn't just sleep with father and son, she slept with father and two out of three sons while donating her eggs to son #3, that's pretty well not impressive, but she didn't miss any of them.
Juego
And speaking of actors who are good at playing the bad boy, it has occurred to me that Mr FJ is sort of sliding right under the radar right now. Is he really just the pretty boy fool who is getting played by everyone and is too stupid to realize it until now….it would seem that he is but I am guessing the writers have a few more surprises for us and I am trying to guess who else might be hiding their dark side, my current favorite guess is FJ.
And speaking of actors who are good at playing the bad boy, it has occurred to me that Mr FJ is sort of sliding right under the radar right now. Is he really just the pretty boy fool who is getting played by everyone and is too stupid to realize it until now….it would seem that he is but I am guessing the writers have a few more surprises for us and I am trying to guess who else might be hiding their dark side, my current favorite guess is FJ.
Juego
My question is still why Chuy was brought into the house when he was ten and raised as Olga's son. After putting him in the orphanage after he was born, why did Renata bring him into her home ? Is this the first time Valeria has come home since her baby was taken from her ? Why did she suddenly decide to come home after seeing Cami , Cesar, and Noeli? Does she suspect that Chuy is her son ?
My question is still why Chuy was brought into the house when he was ten and raised as Olga's son. After putting him in the orphanage after he was born, why did Renata bring him into her home ? Is this the first time Valeria has come home since her baby was taken from her ? Why did she suddenly decide to come home after seeing Cami , Cesar, and Noeli? Does she suspect that Chuy is her son ?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 8:04:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 8:04:00 AM EDT
"JUEGO" EPISODE #57:
Juanita: At some point, someone's going to start things together by finding out Adriana is alive & well, living life in South Beach while everyone else's lives are destroyed.
Weirdo: Why didn't anyone do a secret DNA test on Mariana before Cesar & Co., had her cremated & scattered her ashes in the Pacific Ocean ?
Darcy: Has anyone tried to expose or take down GumChew, the jackass cop ? It seems he keeps upping the ante. What's his endgame ? Police Chief ? Mayor ? CA State Legislature ?
Novelera: Not quite shocked that Chuy might be Cara Sucia based on his unhinged behaviors.
Deb: Adriana was a lying, scheming, manipulative, backstabbing, chaotic, instigating agitator. What was Mariana's personality ? Gullible accomplice ?
Juanita: At some point, someone's going to start things together by finding out Adriana is alive & well, living life in South Beach while everyone else's lives are destroyed.
Weirdo: Why didn't anyone do a secret DNA test on Mariana before Cesar & Co., had her cremated & scattered her ashes in the Pacific Ocean ?
Darcy: Has anyone tried to expose or take down GumChew, the jackass cop ? It seems he keeps upping the ante. What's his endgame ? Police Chief ? Mayor ? CA State Legislature ?
Novelera: Not quite shocked that Chuy might be Cara Sucia based on his unhinged behaviors.
Deb: Adriana was a lying, scheming, manipulative, backstabbing, chaotic, instigating agitator. What was Mariana's personality ? Gullible accomplice ?
juego
Since Weirdo says she'll recap the episode to be shown at midnight on Friday (i.e., first thing Friday morning), I can try to put up a recap of sorts for the episode that was shown last night at midnight (i.e., Thursday's episode). However, if somoene is already working on one, please say so NOW, so I won't spend time doing one needlessly.
Since Weirdo says she'll recap the episode to be shown at midnight on Friday (i.e., first thing Friday morning), I can try to put up a recap of sorts for the episode that was shown last night at midnight (i.e., Thursday's episode). However, if somoene is already working on one, please say so NOW, so I won't spend time doing one needlessly.
juego
Juanita, I can do the recap for last night, let me know.
Juanita, I can do the recap for last night, let me know.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:59:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 1:59:00 PM EDT
juego
Susanlynn- this is what I know about Chuy,
Renata convinced Val that betraying Cami and bringing her home was in Cami's best interest, and I think they just all came back together, and it looks like it's the first time Val has been back since they took the baby from her and she left.
currently Val thinks her son had died.
I think Renata brought Chuy back because as she keeps pointing out, I'll do anything to save my family, and as she tells Pascual if anyone is leaving it's you.
and as Renata tells Pascual, the terms of the arrangement were, "we promised Olga to give Chuy work and a home if she kept quiet".
Susanlynn- this is what I know about Chuy,
Renata convinced Val that betraying Cami and bringing her home was in Cami's best interest, and I think they just all came back together, and it looks like it's the first time Val has been back since they took the baby from her and she left.
currently Val thinks her son had died.
I think Renata brought Chuy back because as she keeps pointing out, I'll do anything to save my family, and as she tells Pascual if anyone is leaving it's you.
and as Renata tells Pascual, the terms of the arrangement were, "we promised Olga to give Chuy work and a home if she kept quiet".
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:08:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 2:08:00 PM EDT
juego
Episode 57 - p. 1 of 2
At the hospital, Noelia tries to talk to the unconscious César. Cami assures her that her father can hear her. Suddenly, Noelia announces, "He squeezed my hand!"
Renata is fed up with Pascual that if she has to choose between her children and him, she'll choose her children.
The Mother Superior (MS) wants Adriana to leave. Adriana tries to persuade her that it's OK for her to assume Mariana's life. She claims that the MS was somewhat complicit in what happened at the orphanage. The MS reluctantly agrees to let Adriana stay, but tells her she can't be idle. She needs to help with the children and with the cooking.
Pascual fires Chuy, claiming that Chuy betrayed him. Chuy responds, "I have no skeletons in my closet, I don't have a body buried in my garden. And I didn't lie to my son. If the police find Eva's body, you'll go to prison for life." Pascual replies, if I do, you'll go with me."
Rai tells Renata that Camila has found a witness. Renata tells him to find out what her silence will cost.
Adriana is looking at Mariana's computer. She says, "I guess your husband isn't as honorable as he seems. He doesn't make a living all that honestly." (It's not clear--at least not to me--what specifically prompts her to say this.)
Sister S (Adriana's roommate) tells "Mariana" that she saw on TV that her sister's husband, the one accused of killing her, is in the hospital and is in grave condition. They don't think he'll survive.
Renata tells Pascual, "Chuy is loyal to me. And he should have more rights than you in this house." Pascual asks, "Are you sleeping with him?" She replies, "He's my nephew!" Pascual objects, "But that child died." "That's what Valeria was told," Renata replies. An astonished Pascual asks, "But why bring him here as a gardener?" Renata informs him, "Because we promised Olga to bring him here if she kept her mouth shut." (There's no explanation of why he was 10 years old when he was brought to the Del Rio house.)
Sister S asks Adriana why she's so worried about her sister's husband. Adriana tells her, "Because he's not her husband. He's mine! And he's innocent." Sister S figures out that Sister Mariana is really Adriana Molina. Adriana implores her to pray for César.
FJ tells Tomás that he feels guilty for his unwitting involvement in Pascual's infidelities. He tells Tomás "I'm going to leave very soon, before I kill him." (Oops, dangerous words, FJ!)
Adriana tells Sister S, "I had a sister. She's now my only chance to stay alive. I want to see my Noelia."
TWO MONTHS LATER. Adriana gets a call on Mariana's cellphone from an unknown number. She answers. It's Pascual. He wants to see her. She tells him that's never going to happen. "Never call me again or I'll have you sent to prison." She hangs up.
At the prison, César's trial is the day after tomorrow. He thanks his cellmate, Nero, and tells him, "When I get out, I'll come to see you." Nero tells him that César has been an inspiration for him, and that he's written to the daughter he hasn't seen in years, and she wrote back, saying she'd come to see him and bring his grandson.
The Senatorial election is taking place. The nosy broadcaster asks Ale whether she's getting a divorce, pointing out that her husband has been away for months. Renata plans a celebration for Ale. She tells Pascual, "She's the closest thing to a child that we have left."
Episode 57 - p. 1 of 2
At the hospital, Noelia tries to talk to the unconscious César. Cami assures her that her father can hear her. Suddenly, Noelia announces, "He squeezed my hand!"
Renata is fed up with Pascual that if she has to choose between her children and him, she'll choose her children.
The Mother Superior (MS) wants Adriana to leave. Adriana tries to persuade her that it's OK for her to assume Mariana's life. She claims that the MS was somewhat complicit in what happened at the orphanage. The MS reluctantly agrees to let Adriana stay, but tells her she can't be idle. She needs to help with the children and with the cooking.
Pascual fires Chuy, claiming that Chuy betrayed him. Chuy responds, "I have no skeletons in my closet, I don't have a body buried in my garden. And I didn't lie to my son. If the police find Eva's body, you'll go to prison for life." Pascual replies, if I do, you'll go with me."
Rai tells Renata that Camila has found a witness. Renata tells him to find out what her silence will cost.
Adriana is looking at Mariana's computer. She says, "I guess your husband isn't as honorable as he seems. He doesn't make a living all that honestly." (It's not clear--at least not to me--what specifically prompts her to say this.)
Sister S (Adriana's roommate) tells "Mariana" that she saw on TV that her sister's husband, the one accused of killing her, is in the hospital and is in grave condition. They don't think he'll survive.
Renata tells Pascual, "Chuy is loyal to me. And he should have more rights than you in this house." Pascual asks, "Are you sleeping with him?" She replies, "He's my nephew!" Pascual objects, "But that child died." "That's what Valeria was told," Renata replies. An astonished Pascual asks, "But why bring him here as a gardener?" Renata informs him, "Because we promised Olga to bring him here if she kept her mouth shut." (There's no explanation of why he was 10 years old when he was brought to the Del Rio house.)
Sister S asks Adriana why she's so worried about her sister's husband. Adriana tells her, "Because he's not her husband. He's mine! And he's innocent." Sister S figures out that Sister Mariana is really Adriana Molina. Adriana implores her to pray for César.
FJ tells Tomás that he feels guilty for his unwitting involvement in Pascual's infidelities. He tells Tomás "I'm going to leave very soon, before I kill him." (Oops, dangerous words, FJ!)
Adriana tells Sister S, "I had a sister. She's now my only chance to stay alive. I want to see my Noelia."
TWO MONTHS LATER. Adriana gets a call on Mariana's cellphone from an unknown number. She answers. It's Pascual. He wants to see her. She tells him that's never going to happen. "Never call me again or I'll have you sent to prison." She hangs up.
At the prison, César's trial is the day after tomorrow. He thanks his cellmate, Nero, and tells him, "When I get out, I'll come to see you." Nero tells him that César has been an inspiration for him, and that he's written to the daughter he hasn't seen in years, and she wrote back, saying she'd come to see him and bring his grandson.
The Senatorial election is taking place. The nosy broadcaster asks Ale whether she's getting a divorce, pointing out that her husband has been away for months. Renata plans a celebration for Ale. She tells Pascual, "She's the closest thing to a child that we have left."
juego
Episode 57, p. 2 of 2
Adriana asks Sister S to distract the MS. Adriana wants to get out and go see Noelia. Sister S replies, "She thinks you're dead." Adriana replies, "I'm not, and I must see Noelia."
Camila, Linda, Rai, and Elvira are sitting at a table at Elvira's. Cami has worked tirelessly to prove César's innocence. She thanks Linda for all she has done. Elvira is speaking as if César has already been found innocent. Cami points out, "We can't celebrate quite yet. There are still 23 more episodes to go!" (Well, she may not have actually said that last sentence, but Viewerville did.)
As if Cami's words were heard at the prison, we see César by himself sweeping the bathroom when in walks The Thug. He asks César why he is all by himself. Then he says, "Don't say I didn't help you," and he leaves.
The scene shifts to César's cell, where Nero is hanging. César holds a typed note that says, "Don't come to see me. I don't want my grandson to know that I'm a killer." César screams for the guards to come help take Nero down.
Renata tells Rai she expects César will be found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. Rai tells her that may not happen. Camila has been working hard and has turned up evidence that may well prove César is innocent. Renata is stunned and upset. "No! There must be something we can do!" Rai tells her, "yes, there's something we can do, but we'd have to put an innocent person in danger." He tells her about the witness, Berenice Lopez, who will say César couldn't have been the shooter because he was too far away. He continues, "Cami thinks another person killed Adriana. Someone called Cara Sucia." (Oops. Of course, Chuy overhears this discussion.)
César claims that Nero is still breathing and should be taken to the hospital. The guard claims Nero is dead, and they prepare to take him to the morgue.
Ale sees the preliminary election results. She is losing, 42% to 58%. But apparently most of the vote hasn't yet been counted.
Ines suggests to Tomás that perhaps they can try again to have a baby (I assume via IVF). Tomás, who has returned to the Foundation office after having drinks at a bar, tells Ines he's in therapy and isn't ready to try again. He asks her to be patient.
Adriana, dressed as a nun, is outside César's house, She sees Noelia through the window. Then Camila enters the room, She and Noelia laugh together and are clearly very close. Adriana gets an ominously blank look on her face as the episode ends.
Episode 57, p. 2 of 2
Adriana asks Sister S to distract the MS. Adriana wants to get out and go see Noelia. Sister S replies, "She thinks you're dead." Adriana replies, "I'm not, and I must see Noelia."
Camila, Linda, Rai, and Elvira are sitting at a table at Elvira's. Cami has worked tirelessly to prove César's innocence. She thanks Linda for all she has done. Elvira is speaking as if César has already been found innocent. Cami points out, "We can't celebrate quite yet. There are still 23 more episodes to go!" (Well, she may not have actually said that last sentence, but Viewerville did.)
As if Cami's words were heard at the prison, we see César by himself sweeping the bathroom when in walks The Thug. He asks César why he is all by himself. Then he says, "Don't say I didn't help you," and he leaves.
The scene shifts to César's cell, where Nero is hanging. César holds a typed note that says, "Don't come to see me. I don't want my grandson to know that I'm a killer." César screams for the guards to come help take Nero down.
Renata tells Rai she expects César will be found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. Rai tells her that may not happen. Camila has been working hard and has turned up evidence that may well prove César is innocent. Renata is stunned and upset. "No! There must be something we can do!" Rai tells her, "yes, there's something we can do, but we'd have to put an innocent person in danger." He tells her about the witness, Berenice Lopez, who will say César couldn't have been the shooter because he was too far away. He continues, "Cami thinks another person killed Adriana. Someone called Cara Sucia." (Oops. Of course, Chuy overhears this discussion.)
César claims that Nero is still breathing and should be taken to the hospital. The guard claims Nero is dead, and they prepare to take him to the morgue.
Ale sees the preliminary election results. She is losing, 42% to 58%. But apparently most of the vote hasn't yet been counted.
Ines suggests to Tomás that perhaps they can try again to have a baby (I assume via IVF). Tomás, who has returned to the Foundation office after having drinks at a bar, tells Ines he's in therapy and isn't ready to try again. He asks her to be patient.
Adriana, dressed as a nun, is outside César's house, She sees Noelia through the window. Then Camila enters the room, She and Noelia laugh together and are clearly very close. Adriana gets an ominously blank look on her face as the episode ends.
Juego
Juanita, thank you for providing every detail.
Adriana is still wheeling and dealing . Love her wide eyed look in the nun's habit ..
Chuy now is scary . That scene between him and Pasqual was intense. It surely seems like they are father and son. Chuy resembles Pasqual more than his other sons.
Deb, thanks for answering my questions . I am still confused about how Olga fits into this mess.
Juanita, thank you for providing every detail.
Adriana is still wheeling and dealing . Love her wide eyed look in the nun's habit ..
Chuy now is scary . That scene between him and Pasqual was intense. It surely seems like they are father and son. Chuy resembles Pasqual more than his other sons.
Deb, thanks for answering my questions . I am still confused about how Olga fits into this mess.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 3:40:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 3:40:00 PM EDT
juego
Susanlynn, you ask several really good questions. I think deb has answered most of them. The one thing I too am still wondering about is why the Del Rios didn't bring Chuy back to their house until he was 10. I suspect the novela will eventually let us know. In the meantime, my guess is that over a period of years, Olga became increasingly annoyed/uncomfortable with Renata. To deal with this, Renata offered to bring Chuy into the house as the gardener and as Olga's adopted son. By the time this happened, Chuy was ten years old. Knowing how Cara Sucia felt about luxury, I imagine Chuy was pleased to be brought to the Del Rios, at least at first.
Susanlynn, you ask several really good questions. I think deb has answered most of them. The one thing I too am still wondering about is why the Del Rios didn't bring Chuy back to their house until he was 10. I suspect the novela will eventually let us know. In the meantime, my guess is that over a period of years, Olga became increasingly annoyed/uncomfortable with Renata. To deal with this, Renata offered to bring Chuy into the house as the gardener and as Olga's adopted son. By the time this happened, Chuy was ten years old. Knowing how Cara Sucia felt about luxury, I imagine Chuy was pleased to be brought to the Del Rios, at least at first.
juego
Thanks so much for the fine recap, Juanita. ITA with all your asides.
Something about the timing of all this seems odd to me. I had the impression that Chuy and Adriana were around the same age in the orphanage. We saw Adriana's 30th birthday party the first episode. I thought Valeria said something about 25 years ago when she had a baby with "Brian". She seemed to be baring her soul to Tomás and Inés when she told them that name. Why would she still protect Pascual if he were the baby daddy?
We Californians aren't used to seeing women lose Senate races. I'm hoping this one breaks the mold.
For some reason I'm hoping Adriana does go to Miami and pretend to be Mariana.
Like the rest of you, I'm very concerned for Berenice. But didn't Cami mention some other evidence. Can't remember.
Thanks so much for the fine recap, Juanita. ITA with all your asides.
Something about the timing of all this seems odd to me. I had the impression that Chuy and Adriana were around the same age in the orphanage. We saw Adriana's 30th birthday party the first episode. I thought Valeria said something about 25 years ago when she had a baby with "Brian". She seemed to be baring her soul to Tomás and Inés when she told them that name. Why would she still protect Pascual if he were the baby daddy?
We Californians aren't used to seeing women lose Senate races. I'm hoping this one breaks the mold.
For some reason I'm hoping Adriana does go to Miami and pretend to be Mariana.
Like the rest of you, I'm very concerned for Berenice. But didn't Cami mention some other evidence. Can't remember.
juego
thanks Juanita, that was a wonderful recap!
so Pascual's plan to rebuild his family didn't work so well, the kids haven't even called in months, well then, so let's give Adriana a call, ha! in Pascual's world where the women don't even leave him when he poisons them, she hangs up on him.
and at the election celebration (or not) party after he totally vents on Ale (who slept with the gardener), as she is walking away, was he looking at her butt?
FJ who left the country (rather than kill Pascual) promised Ale he would be back election night, appearances and such, but so far is a no-show.
according to Rai further investigation at the amusement park has turned up different videos verifying Berenice's story as well as a guy in a rabbit suit (I'm guessing this would show the backpack as well) and wouldn't the passport that Cesar dropped being found with the backpack also expose GumChew.
I'm not clear on Nero's hanging, the thug asked Cesar why he was alone doing the old man's work and when he left he said don't say I didn't help you.
I think after a little more time with Adriana, Sister Susana will be chewing gum and dancing at the club.
thanks Juanita, that was a wonderful recap!
so Pascual's plan to rebuild his family didn't work so well, the kids haven't even called in months, well then, so let's give Adriana a call, ha! in Pascual's world where the women don't even leave him when he poisons them, she hangs up on him.
and at the election celebration (or not) party after he totally vents on Ale (who slept with the gardener), as she is walking away, was he looking at her butt?
FJ who left the country (rather than kill Pascual) promised Ale he would be back election night, appearances and such, but so far is a no-show.
according to Rai further investigation at the amusement park has turned up different videos verifying Berenice's story as well as a guy in a rabbit suit (I'm guessing this would show the backpack as well) and wouldn't the passport that Cesar dropped being found with the backpack also expose GumChew.
I'm not clear on Nero's hanging, the thug asked Cesar why he was alone doing the old man's work and when he left he said don't say I didn't help you.
I think after a little more time with Adriana, Sister Susana will be chewing gum and dancing at the club.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:07:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 7:07:00 PM EDT
juego
Thanks very much, deb, for the important details you've added.
And I too am not clear about Nero's hanging and The Thug's statement to César. Was The Thug implying that because César didn't have Nero with him cleaning the bathroom, he (César) would be accused of hanging Nero???
I loved your prediction about Sister Susana!!
Thanks very much, deb, for the important details you've added.
And I too am not clear about Nero's hanging and The Thug's statement to César. Was The Thug implying that because César didn't have Nero with him cleaning the bathroom, he (César) would be accused of hanging Nero???
I loved your prediction about Sister Susana!!
juego
Novelera, I'm also confused about the timing and the ages of Chuy and Adriana. We know that she's 30 (or, at least, we know she had a 30th birthday party). My recollection is that Cara Sucia was a couple of years older than Adriana (based on scenes when they were at the orphanage as young kids). So I too don't know how to account for Valeria's saying she had her baby with Brian "25 years ago." I keep wondering whether I heard her correctly. So all I'm saying is that I can't explain what you've asked about--I'm confused too! Is there some way that all this confusion will wind up pointing to Pascual as Chuy's father??
Novelera, I'm also confused about the timing and the ages of Chuy and Adriana. We know that she's 30 (or, at least, we know she had a 30th birthday party). My recollection is that Cara Sucia was a couple of years older than Adriana (based on scenes when they were at the orphanage as young kids). So I too don't know how to account for Valeria's saying she had her baby with Brian "25 years ago." I keep wondering whether I heard her correctly. So all I'm saying is that I can't explain what you've asked about--I'm confused too! Is there some way that all this confusion will wind up pointing to Pascual as Chuy's father??
"JUEGO" EPISODE #57:
Novelera: Buji Ale losing reelection to her US Senate seat ? Bwhahahaha!
Nero was obviously murdered by the thug. At some point, Renata & Pascual's reign of terror will END sooner or later.
Deb: Sister Susana being a future stripper ? 😕 I hope NOT!
Juanita: With 23 episodes left, will GumChew ever go down ?
Steve Boudreaux
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Novelera: Buji Ale losing reelection to her US Senate seat ? Bwhahahaha!
Nero was obviously murdered by the thug. At some point, Renata & Pascual's reign of terror will END sooner or later.
Deb: Sister Susana being a future stripper ? 😕 I hope NOT!
Juanita: With 23 episodes left, will GumChew ever go down ?
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