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"VENGANZA" HIGHLIGHTS DISCUSSION
Kat in SC: Noticed they started showing the opening credits.
 

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Posted this late on the previous page so I'm reposting here.

Thanks for the highlights, Niecie.

Yeah, the Cemre – Leyla connection is weird. They really can’t go any further with that.

What happened to Ergun was terrible, but he was a terrible person. I feel sorry for Devin and Yagmur. Nese’s behavior is so inappropriate.

There is another suspect in Ergun’s murder, his business partner, Sermet. IIRC, Sermet was suing Ergun. It was strange when he showed up at the house and told Devin how he thought of Ergun as a brother. Something was fishy. Then they found a text on Ergun’s phone from Sermet threatening to kill him. I’m sure Aslan hopes Sermet is the guilty party.

“I noticed folks were wearing a photo of Ergun on their lapel. Maybe this is a Turkish custom?” Yes. They wear them at the funeral service and at the cemetery. I think it’s a way for the mourners to honor and remember the deceased. It was strange to see the men and women in the same space at Nese’s. They are usually in separate rooms or floors of a house in the dizis I’ve seen. No prayers. And where was the halva?

Thanks again, Niecie.
 

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Very busy day and evening. Thanks so much, Niecie, for the well-written brief summary of what happened. I didn't expect Ergun to be offed so quickly. Is my memory faulty or did Hulya actually wonder whether she should have paid him off?

Yes, Aslan drove me nuts last night trying to get Devin to "get over it fast". Many times it seems to me that he wants Devin to behave a certain way because it's more convenient for him.

I thought Hulya put on a different necklace last night. The other one looked like turquoise. I thought the one she put on looked like emeralds.

It almost seems too good to be true for Ergun's phone to have that recording we heard.

Almost time for Zoom book club. I'll put up a quickie tonight.
 

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#58 Devin plays the recording that it’s said Ergun texted to Hulya. I thought he stood in front of her and played it; but maybe they’re implying he did both. Then she reads Ergun’s text aloud: You’ll give me the money I want, or you’ll go to prison with me and lose your son forever.

Aslan starts babbling about his mother getting better. Devin reminds him the plot to break up their marriage was quite a while ago. Aslan and Devin decide to investigate. Devin will work on Hulya and Aslan on Sermat.

Hulya got a library room at the foundation named after Ergun.

Bedri says something to Ilyas about Ilyas' plan for the neighborhood needing to wait until the marina thing is fixed.

Kiymet tells Bedri he needs to make sure Nedret never comes to this house again.

Devin starts pushing Hulya’s buttons. She tells her the police know the brakes were damaged, and the cops are close.

Aslan tells Sermat about Ergun’s death being a homicide. From what I could tell Serman doesn’t flinch.

Yagur goes after Devin, reaming her out for associating with Hulya when she might have killed their father.

Bedri comes to ask who the man was who caused Nedret to be exiled to Adana. She clams up. He decides to fly to Adana.

We get another Aslan/Devin therapy session. Before they begin Aslan is trying hard to convince Devin that Sermat killed her father.

Nedret talks to some guy at the Foundation. He thinks she’s likely to win the presidency. He’s showing her a video of Ergun yelling at Hulya when said Hulya shows up, entering without knocking.

I’m not liking the guilt Devin is showing. What her father did to both girls for YEARS isn’t forgivable. And he only felt fatherly when his second wife and child and then his career were taken.

Cemre got a job in another country, and she asks Leyla to come along.

Aslan tells the shrink his mother is a weight on his shoulders and always has been. He’s felt it lifting recently; but, if she did what he thinks she did, the weight is back on.

We get some needed comic relief. Iskoc and Turgut have come to Sermat’s clinic to look for evidence. Iskoc says they’re screwed; no visitors allowed. Turgut: “We’re not visitors; we’re mafia.” They don the usual, readily available doctors' coats. There’s an amazingly funny scene with Turgut treating a guy whose main problem seems to be an overbearing wife. He lifts the guy, cracking his back into place and warning him about “oppressors”.

Aslan takes Devin to a closed ice rink. Nice move. She actually starts laughing.

Aslan can’t play it cool in front of his mother. He’s visibly hostile when they arrive home, despite Devin’s pleas. He says to her: “Do you think there is a person that even love can’t cure?”
 

Venganza #55

Got my eyes dilated this a.m.. slowly getting back to normal. I'll post what I can before going home today ( babysitting 2 this afternoon so I don't have a just me time during her nap. In fact grandson is wanting to do science or craft time.)

Fists fly in female fashion between Elisa and Fernanda over Francisco. Stalemate.

Tania tells Alonso, still in his hospital bed, she only loved part of him, all he has is air in his head, nothing worth loving. I'm thinking she is overplaying her hand and she will be caught.

Monica talks with Beltran at an open air restaurant who says he never wanted children, Fernanda was much too immature to raise a child so he found an alternative home for her ( could he be charged with statutory rape or has too much time passed?).

Fernanda visits Francisco (and Marcelo). She complains about Elisa slapping her. More of the same about her needing to tell the truth about Beltran.

Paty drives up to Fermin and Erika's home, giving it a dismissive glare. Fermin let's her in, she is bearing gifts of sumptuous pastry. She tells them she forgives them. Claudia and Erika says they don't need forgiving, she on the other hand. Erika takes the box of cake, removed one and politely rubs it in Paty's face. Claudia grins.

Tania returns home, sits on the floor with her back up against the wall and reflects back on what she told Alonso.

Monica returns home. Sebastian has been worried about her. She says she met with her father.

Gabriel and Alfredo quietly discuss the lawsuit situation, I think they are planning when to off Adelberto. Gabriel brings up the fact that Monica will most likely be Beltran's heir. ( Will she be their next victim after they kill Beltran somehow, or his natural demise occurs sooner than later?)

Ok, I'll get to the rest of the show later. Just wanted to post this part while it is fresh in my mind.
 

"VENGANZA" HIGHLIGHTS DISCUSSION:
Kat in SC: Great job on your recap on Thursday night's episode. My personal thoughts (looking forward to the next section of your recap)

126.) Tania: You are still a DEAD WOMAN WALKING girl: going to the hospital & visiting Slick Alonso. Does this STUPID idiot realize she's signing her death warrant ?

127.) Beltran was somewhat honest telling Monica he didn't want to be a father. Giving Monica to adoptive parents was the best thing for her.

128.) Francisco, Gullible Elisa & Crazy Goldie Locks: FAST FORWARD. I cannot stand the three of them: they're too damn triggered.

129.) Sebastian is worried about Monica & I think he needs to be worried about what EVIL plans Alfredo & Gabriel are plotting against Monica down the road.

130.) Where is Dr. Mirna: Should she at least consider helping getting Tania out of the country?

131.) It appears the beginning of the end of Daddy & Mommy Ferrero has officially begun. Gut feeling Brenda will be joining the Body Count soon.

132.) Paty is starting to piss me off so much. I want to slap the expletive out of her so bad.

133.) I would like to know why did Paty forgive Erika, Fermin & Claudia? Is Paty that naive ?

134.) I did enjoy watching Erika rubbing the cake in Paty's face: LOL.

135.) Where is Ana in last night's episode ? Did she make an appearance? She's the major key in the house of cards in all of this chaos.

136.) Francisco: You're the DUMBEST Protagonist that I've ever seen in any Telenovela. At least Alejandro Gaitan was skillful in plotting his revenge (although it took him 17 years to get justice against those who destroyed his life).

137.) Why do I get the feeling those two ladies, who were in the motel when Tania castrated Slick Alonso's little bishop, will be tortured & eventually killed by Gabriel & Alfredo's thugs in giving Tania up ?

138.) Monica: WATCH YOUR BACK because now that Gabriel has brought up the fact that Monica will be Beltran's heir, I would be shocked IF Gabriel & Alfredo have Monica killed. My question to Sebastian: What are YOU going to do about it ?

 

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Belated thanks, Niecie, for the highlights (and lowlights) from Wednesday's episode.

And thanks very much, novelera, for again stepping up to cover a second episode this week. I agree with what you've said about Devin's grief. Given how many reservations and resentments she has about her father, I'm surprised at how devastated she seems to feel about his death. Although, actually, much of that grief is really guilt that she didn't get to talk to him and find out what he had to say.

I enjoyed the episode of Turgut and Isok pretending to be doctors. Actually, Turgut's cure for the man's back problem reminded me of a similar cure my doctor gave me many years ago. My back had gone out, I was in a lot of pain, and he told me to stand next to him, back to back. He then bent over, lifted me up off the ground, and BINGO, my pain was gone!

I wonder what the chances are that Sermat was responsible for killing Ergun. I think my money is still on Hulya, but if the writers are trying for a surprise....
 

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Gracias, Novelera. "They don the usual, readily available doctors' coats." It was fun to see Turgut and Iskoc front and center last night. I'm starting to think there will be a HEA after all.

Now I'm not so sure that Hulya did it and I'm wondering what she did order her henchman to do or not to do. Sermat seems okay, but ... I'm wondering if his kids just happened to be home so that he could appear a normal family
guy.

I'm glad Devin finally stood up to Yagmur guilting her. For a moment, I thought Devin would slap her, but I'm glad she didn't.

Mama Hulya cooked a dish with her own hands for Aslan and Devin. And there he sits seething and about to go off on her. If she were any other mother, I'd feel bad for her.
 

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Juanita, your doctor sounds incredible.
 

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Turgut and Iskoc are just the cutest couple here. They deserve happiness.

Isn't Bedri from Adana? What does he expect to find that he shouldn't already be familiar with?

My money is still on Hulya being the killer. Maybe I'm hoping since the other guy has a wife and kid, but there just isn't one bit of remorse for anything she does. Not to Devin or to her own daughter that she seems to have forgotten all about. I hope Leyla takes her kids, Eko's rescue dog and leaves the country with Cemre.

K
 

Venganza #55 part 2

Fernanda , you are the love of my life...FF.
Gabriel and Alfredo discuss Fernanda's affair. Gabriel says, smoothe over it, water under the bridge. They are out associates.

Paty and Claudia argue as Paty wipes cake off her face, gets in her car and drives off.
Adelberto and Ninette ask Brenda how is your divorce coming. The sooner we are not tied to that riffraff (gentuza) the better.

Fernanda refuses to meet with Francisco and Marcelo's lawyers to denounce Beltran. She says it will just be his word against mine. The best thing is for us to go far away, together. Forget about all that has happened.

Alfredo is in his home office bemoaning to Elisa their fate in a few days. Guess he figures he will lose the lawsuit. He sips scotch or whiskey from from his glass as Elisa asks him to stop drinking already. He wonders who his real father is.

Ninette tells Adelberto don't worry about Gabriel, Brenda has a new mystery beau

Mirna counsels Tania, because of course she still hasn't found a real shrink.

Gabriel and Brenda , post coitus, discuss Monica talking to Eugeni. Gabriel cynically says I'm sure she welcomed him with open arms as he is Mr moneybags, and possibly dying soon. Brenda insists she isn't like that.

Eugenio calls Fern saying how pretty their daughter is, reminds me of you at that age. She lights her matches one by one.

Rafita and Miguel discuss there upcoming job. Claudia tries to eavesdrop while cleaning tables.

Ana is at Francisco's place. More badmouthing Fern which Francisco is tired of. He bends down to get his phone to call her a taxi and she lip locks him. He throws her off. She begs him to give her a chance, she can make him happy ( with syphilis? Is she a carrier for life now?)

Elisa and Alfredo some more. She talks about her love for Francisco. He is mad that he took advantage of her while a minor. She says he is only 2 years older. Alfredo shakes his head, how can both my daughter's be in love with this guy? Elisa says what? He says Ana wants him too.

Gabriel is complaining to Brenda that the money to fix Alonso is wasted on that trash. Brenda tries to point out that his father is supporting a son. Imagine if you were in that situation. He doesn't want to talk about it anymore as she reaches to caress his cheek he says the proverbial, no me toques.

Eugenio' continues to taunt Fernanda about how Monica had nothing good to say about her. As Fern knows. Then he talks about fish which I'm sure is some sort of Spanish idiom I'm unfamiliar with.
 

Venganza #55 part 3

Ana asks Francisco what about Manuel, Fernanda killed her. He shuts her down. I'm not interested in having a relationship with you now or ever. Stop coming to see me. As she leaves she tells him I hope when you find out who Fernanda' really is that it isn't too late.

Tania is still stressing about Alonso. Mirna urges her to get professional help. She thinks maybe she should take care of him and the guilt will go away. Mirna shakes her head in exasperation.

Erika, wearing a red dress that looks like maternity wear( nice to see the show advancing her pregnancy) tells Elisa that Francisco doesn't want to even talk to Fernanda'. His attraction to her is simply physical.

Joseph Price, asks Ana out on a date to listen to jazz, get a bite to eat. She rudely tells him she doesn't like jazz and she doesn't want to go out with anyone. He says so you just want to stay at home until you are an old Lady. That gives her pause to think about it. He goes off to teach his class.

Gabriel, Alfredo, Francisco and Marcelo discuss business and Beltran. Francisco wants to find proof he killed his grandmother. Alfredo makes a remark I can buy you a gun to solve your vengeance plan.

Paty and Fernanda talk. Fern is pumping her for insider information about the goings on at the business.

Francisco talks with Lawyers about the case against Eugenio.

Fernanda wants Miguel to attack Claudia. I want you to get your guys to mess her up bad, but keep her alive. He says when. As soon as possible. Attack her!