Caray, Caray!

KPA

I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday. We have had a nice, quiet one with a little welcome rain.

Darcy (and Kat and whoever else is watching),

I’d like to ask Darcy to post once in awhile here to keep us up to date on your progress. I’m figuring it will be at least a month, but I could be wrong. Anyway, no hurry. Take as long as you need. If you rush, it won’t be fun! Add questions and comments so we can join in, if you have time. Let us know when you get close to episode 25-ish. Then we will be in business!

I find the differences between the homes and customs of the very wealthy and the more humble to be very interesting. Taking off shoes is one. I figure using slippers is important when people clean their own floors. Not so much in wealthier homes, where others do the cleaning. It looks like the food served differs. But, tea is always served!

I’m using my extra time to catch up with some reading. Tonight I will be back to my 3 current tn/dizis!

Babachita


 

KPA

If it does take a month to catch up I may go back to the first few. I get a lot more from them after I learn the various names of the characters. Also, if any one else wants to join in nows your chance. Kara Para Ask is the Turkish name for it. The Spanish version is Amor de Contrabando.

I'm also looking forward to our 3 shows tonight. We are watching the same ones I think (or are you watching A.Mar ( I started it but it didn't appeal to me.)
 

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I’m pretty sure we are watching the same three: Karzu, Velvet, and Bahar.

English names for KPA are Black Money Love, in case that helps anyone.

YouTube seems to be the only way now!

Babachita



 

KPA

Checking in... I'm so glad I started watching this....and I am HOOKED!!! I actually made good progress today - but it was a holiday so that just means so spare room didn't get organized, and I didn't do much else today! LOL So I don't think it will take a month, but it will definitely slow down considerably after today. I watched through ep 12!!!

I noticed the taking off the shoes thing, but I didn't think about connecting it to who has to clean the floors! That's so interesting. I feel so sorry for the grieving mother who wants so badly to make a connection with all these people coming to visit, her daughter's 'friends' and yet, they are just liars and feeling guilty. That poor woman just wants a part of her daughter back!

One thing I move about dizi's is how emotionally complex the story telling is, at least it seems that way to me. Even the silences seem more meaningful and potent than in English show or a Spanish show where the characters often don't stop talking long enough to be truly silent. Turkish shows do that really well. They capture Elif's torment, worry, anguish, and grief so beautifully just in silent moments. And you could go to on all and watch Engin's facial expressions even longer - his wonder, suspicion, frustration, doubt, humor, anger, etc, etc etc. I don't know if I can think of a more expressive actor, he is just too fun to watch!

Of course, as soon as I typed that I thought of the actress who played Mukaddes on Fatmagul!!! The character was horrid, but that actress is phenomenal!!! SHE is the most expressive actress I have ever seen in my life, her facial expressions throughout that show were unbelievable and I remain amazed that she was able to pull off the character with a straight face! - But I digress....

If there's one thing that I find really challenging about a dizi it's that all the names are so distinct from the names you are used to hearing. It makes it even harder for me to get to know/remember names and associate them. 12 episodes in and I feel like I know who the characters are, but I probably still only know half of their names! sigh.

Interesting that Metin (I think) is Tayyar's son... can't say I was surprised exactly, he behaved like he was trying to court daddy's favor and resentful of being only halfway in - but I was sort of surprised to have in confirmed and then learn he plans to hide the fact that Omer is a cop from dear old dad! hehe

I knew Tayyar was the bad guy the first time Elif called him 'Tio', there was just a ring to it.... why does dad's best friend always have to be the bad guy? But then I guess the runs in the family since Elif's own bestie isn't exactly above board. She's definitely jealous and covering her own resentment but have I already missed a reason why? Is she an unrecognized child too? She calls Elif's mom 'Tia' but I think that's a term of endearment, Elif refers to her as her best friend not her cousin.

Like I said, I will have to slow down for sure, because sadly I do have to go back to work tomorrow but I will keep making progress. I don't think it will take a month especially not if I get the opportunity to binge watch and not organize my spare room this Saturday too. LOL Don't know if that will happen or not, but it could....
 

KPA

I’m re-watching the early episodes. I found the gathering of friends and relatives of Sibel’s family interesting. All the shoes!!! I wonder if some close friends/family brought their own slippers. Otherwise, where did they get enough for everyone? That was a big gathering. Men and women separate. Not much said, just prayers.

This time I noticed something I hadn’t before. On the small entrance patio was a pair of women’s shoes all alone. I think I just assumed it was more of the pile of shoes. But, now I think a pair Sibel’s shoes was placed at the entrance as a symbol of the person the gathering was mourning.

Omer’s nephew eats a lot. Does he have an eating disorder? I will blame it on his mother, Melike.

The difference in the two gatherings was interesting. The wealthy ladies were busy gossiping. At Sibel’s, people looked at Omer with pity but I didn’t see any gossiping. They seemed more reverential.

Babachita


 

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Babachita, you are right, those were Sibel’s shoes outside. It’s an old tradition. It signifies there was a recent death in the household but it can also be an act of charity in honor of the deceased. A poor person might want to take the shoes. I have actually seen this happen in a dizi.

Ha, I didn’t look at all the mourner’s feet. Maybe they brought slippers or stayed in socks.

Darcy! So glad you’re watching KPA. Yes, Elif addressed Tayyar as “amca” (uncle, specifically father’s brother). It can be used for a blood relation or a term of respect for an older man. Same usage for teyze (aunt, specifically mother’s sister). Careful though, I’ve seen dizi characters get offended if they think they are not “old enough” to be called uncle or aunt. Maybe abi or abla (older brother or sister) would be more appropriate.

Ditto on Engin’s expressions. And Mukaddes is an unforgettable character. A stellar performance by Esra Dermancıoğlu.