Thursday, October 02, 2025

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Bahar, Esencia de Mujer y más: Week of September 29, 2025

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

  • 10-11PM - Bahar, Esencia de Mujer

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Bahar

More crazy. Bahar and Timur might have been infected by a patient with a deadly virus. They spent time togetherbin an isolation room. They were worried about mortality but finally got good bloodwork.

Reha saves Bahar’s mother after her heart stopped.

A character was introduced, Timur’s aunt. She may be involved in some shady stuff. She looks like a character. Might be only a few episodes left. I hope we don’t have a cliff-hanger ending!

Babachita
 

Bahar

I was so exasperated watching Wednesday’s show, dying to know what they had cut out.

This one they could have cut tons and I wouldn’t have minded. It seemed like a lot of typical contrived TN disasters – a potentially deadly virus, Bahar’s mom having a heart event. She needs her chest pumped! The monitor flatlines! Oh no! How many times have we seen that scene over the years? And if Bahar felt sick why was she suddenly fine?

And what was the point of the new guy having stabbed a fellow in the garage? Or in the stomach I should say. Where did he get the shard of glass? The guy dies and the new guy is taken away by the police so there he goes never to be seen again. I guess this was to introduce the character of Timur’s tia, but couldn’t they have done that some other way? And why bring in a new character when we’re almost at the end?

The tia says she lost her home and everything in L.A. Well, after our January fires there are a lot of people in that position – I know several who lost everything. So I looked up the date for this show and it’s 2024. So how did she manage to lose everything? Maybe we’ll find out.

I was sorry there wasn’t more to the scene where Dr Reha visits Bahar’s mom. I bet that was all cut. I’m enjoying that budding relationship, though we don’t get to see much of it. When he was at the hospital he lamented that he shouldn’t have left her alone, but just minutes before we saw him putting on pink slippers for his visit. We never saw him get called away.

Who’s the guy who’s evaluating the hospital? Is he a psychiatrist? Is this a matter of having to have someone to match Cagla up with in true TN fashion?


 

bahar cuts

I haven’t had much time to carefully review the last few Turkish episodes. They are each approx. 2:20 long! I'm only up to the episode that ends with the NYE party. (Turkish #30) Massive amounts were cut. It's ridiculous. I think Telemundo is already airing scenes from Turkish #33 – 34!

Seren came home alone one night and found a masked thief in the apartment. She tried to detain him. They struggled on the stairs and they both fell. This caused a huge uproar among the families and between Seren and Uraz. Efsun used this to her advantage to get Seren and Uraz to come live with her. Bahar loses once again.

Rengin is losing her mind over the possibility that Timur is cheating.

Ismail Bey comes to see Timur. They talk about all the recent disasters at the hospital. Timur tells him it's a tough job to do alone. Ismail says Timur won’t be running things alone now. The Peran Foundation founder’s son, Tolga Okaner, is coming. He’s a successful psychiatrist. Timur is forced to accept whether he likes it or not. I think you're right Maggie, this guy will be for Cagla.

The reason why Efsun was at the hospital NYE party was because she has an old friend that owns a hall and would give her a big discount. And she was able to persuade him to get rid of video that showed her backstage with Timur during the hot mic event.

Timur is continuously finding himself in awkward situations with Efsun no matter how hard he tries to avoid her.

Also cut from the NYE party, Ugur does a magic trick using Efsun as his assistant. He puts her in a box and makes her disappear. Uh oh, he can’t bring her back! Timur goes backstage and starts warming up for his song. He finds Efsun crawling around on the floor. She didn't fully understand what she had to do and got dizzy. He helps her up and she wanders off.
They are cutting a lot of Gulcicek and Reha.

I'll try to get the wedding and the deadly virus over the weekend. BTW, the full Turkish episodes are on YouTube but they have no subtitles, Turkish or English. My Turkish isn't good enough to fully understand, especially when they speak fast. I’ve found some half decent translations to work from.

 

Bahar

Dondi – you are doing us a huge service! I was amazed to read all that was cut, and also heartbroken. This is such a great show and they’re just eviscerating it. The part about Seren and Uriz moving in with her mom is an important plot point. I can’t imagine anyone actually moving in with Efsan. Toxic is an inadequate word for her.

Thank you so much for taking the time to fill us in!

 

Bahar/ cutting scenes

I did some googling. I can’t believe that the internet is silent about TNs being cut. We know these are hugely popular shows. In fact, here in LA it made the papers when a hit TN (La Fea Mas Bella? Pasion?) gave Univision higher ratings here than all the major networks. It was the top channel! There has to be an angry viewership – surely it can’t just be us here on Caray.

I tried some Spanish search words and finally landed on a YouTube clip. A woman was doing a voiceover while showing clips of a popular show and lamenting that it was cut near the end. Why always near the end? Then Juan Osario appeared! He said he was “triste.” I bet. I guess he couldn’t show actual outrage because he wouldn’t want to make Univision mad, but I’m sure he was beyond triste.

I also remember when we had a show with Jaime Camil and he said he was so triste that so many scenes had been cut from that TN, that there were wonderful scenes that viewers in the US didn’t get to see.


 

Bahar

Dondi, thanks for coming to our rescue again. Even just visuals of the show, understanding nothing, may help us follow the plot. I'll look for it on YouTube.
 

Bahar

Dondi, thanks for coming to our rescue again. Even just visuals of the show, understanding nothing, may help us follow the plot. I'll look for it on YouTube.
 

Bahar

Yes dondi, thanks so much for filling in Telemundo’s outrageous cuts. I like the character of Bahar—how she plods along amid all the adversity, keeping her dignity and treating others with respect. But I was so frustrated last night I turned it off. Thanks again dondi, and Maggie, Babachita, novelera for keeping it going.
 

Bahar

I found the Turkish versions. Dondi, they really are 2 hours long! I started on 31 as you told us about 30. I'm currently half way through episode 32. I don't understand a word, but noticed Tolga has lots of scenes. So have all the former what we thought were uncut episodes been chopped up also. I could see losing a few minutes of them without affecting the storyline, but if dialogue is cut that is just plain wrong. The dwarf that Bahar was treating I'm sure had some comic reason so it could likely be cut. Then there seemed to be Bahar doing commercials for food and books that I had no idea why. Probably not a plot driver either. A lot of planning and scenes leading up to the wedding were left out.

I'm not even sure what episode Telemundo is showing tonight, but looks like I won't catch up with the Turkish version before 10 tonight.....
 

Bahar

Not even sure what number this is but I think Mondays is the gran finale. There is a 3rd season in Turkey, currently playing, so perhaps we will get more of this in the future.

Is Tolga married? He brought some bags (possibly if clothing) to a reception desk of a hotel? and I thought he mentioned a wife. If so, I guess the Cagla romance is off. Or were they clothes for Cagla so she wouldn't have the walk of shame after a night together.

The lady encased in concrete is definitely a different twist on a ER visit. They actually covered it a lot in this episode. Perhaps the family dynamics should have been the primary focus though.

Everyone is converging on Bahar's house for dinner. Tia Leyla? has a brain aneurysm which surgery may kill her, and she has lost her recent memory. I'm assuming she was the sister of Timur's father. Sounds like she raised Timur as a child. Any chance she is actually his mother?

Evren pretends to be Rengin's boyfriend at the full house dinner party. But Rengin refuses his proposal of marriage and gives some digs at Timur in the process. Leyla makes a bunch of remarks about the skinny big fitted girl that was Timur's first girlfriend. She says, Nevra, you didn't like her either. Poor Rengin. She invited herself to dinner on Parla's advice. Why aren't you there with Dad. Rengin tells Timur she called you Dad! You are making headway with her.

Once again a very choppy episode. Taking Dondi's post as advice, I've found the Turkish 2+hour versions of the episodes. I don't have a single word of Turkish in my wheelhouse, but I do recognize the names at least. I'll catch up with the rest of the cut scenes over the weekend.
 

Bahar

Kat, thank you for all this extra information!! It’s both fascinating and saddening because why don’t we get to see all that? Where are you watching the Turkish episodes? I hope there are no ads. Two hours – wow!

I thought tonight’s episode was fun. At least the parts we got to see. It was like a drawing room comedy. The tia is a kick. She sure doesn’t like Nevra, but then neither do we.

And that poor lady encased in cement! How does she breathe? They really could chip that cement off – you don’t need a cement cutter (though that might help) and certainly not a sledgehammer. Was that broken-pelvis x-ray supposed to be her? And if so, how did they get an x-ray?

I thought the scene where Efsun put her daughter down so much at dinner was very well written.

What’s up with Dr. Tolga going to visit his sick wife. Dementia maybe?



 

Bahar

Shoot I typed a really long comment then I hit home rather than the space bar and lost it all! I found it on YouTube with commercials, but they aren't overwhelming. I read FB or play Duolingo in the minute break.

I went into great detail about the cement lady but it's not really important to the story so I won't do it again. I had questions about the civil engineering aspect of the cement and that I wouldn't want to be the owner of the project being built.

Let me instead discuss the wedding attire as that was the episode I watched inong form. Efsun in white like her daughter was totally inappropriate. I'm pretty sure Seren agreed . When Efsun met with Seren and Aziz Uras in the dressing room at the club Cagla and Bahar were there too. An argument ensued between mother and daughter as Cagla and Bahar figure out a fix. As Efsun turned to leave Bahar collided with her holding her glass of red wine which spilled down the front of the dress. Thus the red sash Efsun wore for the rest of the ceremony/reception.

Then there was Bahar's dress, all in black with a long train! It came into play during the wedding first dance when the parents of the bride and groom were invited to dance with them. That was a funny scene with Bahar kicking it out of the way in her spins, etc...

Cagla looked like a hooker in her blue outfit. Not a fan of her dress.

The mass casualties were never really explained. A bus or train accident perhaps. The first wedding ceremony has included signatures. The officiant was the newer bald headed guy from the hospital, not Duruk. Not sure if he's an admin guy or a doctor. I guess the rooftop wedding at the hospital was to have the real judge (now on an IV) sign the paperwork the couple signed at the first wedding ceremony.

So if you have time to kill and want some visuals of the wedding search for Bahar episode 31 on YouTube....
 

Bahar

I enjoyed the humorous situation with Timur’s aunt. Is she his mother’s sister? It made me chuckle as more people joined in. Poor Rengin had to listen to the aunt describing Timur’s college girlfriend (Rengin) as tall, skinny, with big feet! Rengin is so brilliant but somewhat awkward socially. What a shock it must have been to a pregnant Rengin when Timur married Bahar.

I did go watch the wedding in Turkish on YouTube. I love to hear the actors’ real voices! I got to hear Bahar sing! The scene with Bahar having to flip her train while dancing with Aziz Uraz was funny. Lots of subtle humor in this, and we probably miss out on half of it!!

Babachita
 

Bahar

Babachita, Rengin wasn't pregnant when Timur and Bahar married. (Bahar was pregnant with Aziz Uras then). That happened years later as Parla and Umay are the same age.
 

Bahar

I thought they were both pregnant. But, I guess Bahar was pregnant with Aziz Uraz, so that doesn't work. How much older is he than Umay? Thank you for clarifying this! I might have it now:

So, Timur and Rengin were college sweethearts. She left for awhile and he met Bahar, who got pregnant. They married and Rengin (who had returned too late) went away. She returned and he cheated on Bahar, and both Rengin and Bahar were pregnant. Rengin didn’t tell and left for America to have Parla. Did she go to America all three times? This is complicated!

Babachita
 

Bahar

The way I understand it, Timur went to the US for an externship or something and reconnected with Rengin while he was there. She got pregnant but didn't tell him about it until 3 years before the show began. They had been apart for those 13 or 14 years and I guess Rengin came back to Turkey to work at his hospital and they hooked up again. I recall Bahar and Timur stopped sharing a bed around that time. That should have been her first clue that something was wrong in the marriage. Dondi, is that what you got from it?
 

Bahar
As to ages, Aziz Uras would be 24 at the start of the show since his parents just reached the 25th anniversary. We know that Umay is 16 as they had a party for her. So 8 years between the siblings.
 

bahar

Kat, you are correct. Bahar was pregnant with Aziz Uraz when she married Timur and he was born shortly after they married. He's at least 25 by now.

The wedding is in Turkish episode #32. I'm going to look at it later today.

 

bahar cuts part 1

Yes, the Turkish eps are over 2 hours long. It’s like the writers, cast, and crew film a full-length movie each week! So it’s one episode a week in Türkiye, with two or three ≈10 min commercial breaks inserted. The Turks also stick product placement scenes into dizis.

In Turkish #31, Timur meets with Tolga and totally trashes Bahar. He paints himself as the victim in the marriage. He mentions the saltshaker incident, the overturning of the fish tank, and that Bahar trashed the house after losing it to Rengin. He calls her ambitious and out to get what she wants. He says that Bahar has become unbalanced. As chief physician, he’s concerned she poses a threat to the hospital.

Later, Timur trashes Bahar to Ismail Bey and says she shouldn’t work at the hospital anymore.

Bahar confronts Timur over the NYE misunderstanding. Bahar is livid and gets physical with Timur. As she goes to bite him on the hand, Tolga enters the room. Not a good look.

Umay overhears a convo between Timur and Rengin. Timur trashes Bahar again. Rengin also thinks Bahar should leave the hospital. Umay gives Bahar a heads up on it.

I think the dwarf was brought in to make hospital staff think that Bahar is losing her mind.

Tolga meets with other hospital staff.

Rengin is very resistant and paranoid and doesn’t want to meet again.
Seren talks about her mom and the henna party.

Doruk mentions his surgeon father was a narcissist and left the family when he was young. He never wanted his mother to remarry. He’s taken the role of her protector.

Evren says he doesn’t worry about the things he can’t change. But he has commitment issues. He’s rootless. He lived on a boat for a long time. He recently reunited with a brother and moved into a house. Tolga asks Evren about his relationship with Bahar. Evren says they’re taking it slow. Evren asks Tolga for his evaluation. He prefers to get the bad news right away.

Tolga brings up the fact that Bahar has a family and will have grandchildren. That’s something for someone who doesn’t like commitments. Is it more appealing for you to enter a ready-made family rather than start your own? Evren seems disturbed about that.

Seems like everyone who’s met with Tolga seem upset.

Bahar feels like she’s been gaslighted by Timur. She does a voiceover: "A narcissist doesn't tell big lies; on the contrary, they distort the truth to the point of destroying your reputation, masterfully planting seeds in the other person's mind, building a trap that will sink you as you try to explain yourself."

Seren takes her mom on a surprise shopping trip to the bazaar. They are met by Gulcicek, Cagla, and Nevra to help Seren plan her Kına Gecesi. Debate ensues. Efsun loses. Seren will get the traditional henna night SHE wants.

Cagla goes to a café and Tolga enters afterwards. He goes to her table and asks her why she keeps trying to avoid him. He asks to sit. She explains she was very embarrassed by the way they met. He jokes that he never heard such scolding and praise at first sight. Didn’t you find me worth getting to know? She hesitates. He says he’d like to get to know her. Isn’t life too short to miss beautiful opportunities? Let’s have dinner. She stutters. She’s confused. She doesn't know what to do. He gives her his business card. Call me.

 

bahar cuts part 2

The dwarf incident is solved, Bahar is vindicated. Six other dwarves bring Muhteşem back to the hospital. They’ve been doing a play as the 7 dwarves.

It’s time for Bahar’s session with Tolga. She begins by saying Timur must have talked about her. And the dwarf is real. She starts to explain the NYE incident. She was trying to keep Timur’s secret. Somehow it got ridiculously out of hand and the blame fell on her. What could she do?

Tolga notes that she’s divorced Timur. Yes, she says, but they have children. The family has always been my priority, to protect it. Tolga asks, who exactly is your family? She answers, my children… my mother… Cagla, she’s like a sister to me. Tolga asks, And Timur? Bahar freezes for a moment then says, no, no, he’s just the father of my children. Tolga questions, but you said you protect the family. Timur is not part of the family.

Bahar says, but my son… he’s getting married… Tolga says this is really an issue for father and son. Why take this on at your own cost? I always do, she responds, I always have. Tolga tells her relationships are different in healthy divorces. We set boundaries. Bahar says she’s done that, and she even has a new boyfriend. He asks about the new relationship. Bahar says it’s kind of up and down. She has some trust issues coming out of marriage. But she loves Evren. He puts up with her.

Do you think you are someone who needs to be tolerated, Tolga asks. No, she replies. But she got that idea from Timur, the way he treated her. He’d joke, who else would love someone like you, but me? Bahar gets teary. Tolga offers a tissue and asks if Evren treats her that way. Not at all, she says, he listens very well.

Tolga asks if they are living together. She says it’s not that kind of a relationship… not sexual. He asks, then what distinguishes Evren from other friends? She can’t answer. Tolga thinks it’s because she hasn’t totally broken away from Timur. He wants her to focus on starting a new life. She complains of Timur constantly trying to drag her down and no one sees it. She tells Tolga, you can write whatever you want in your report. She gets up and leaves.

Evren has a rough time in a PT session. Bahar helps him and he has a breakthrough.

Timur brings his report on Bahar to Tolga. He tells him to add his report and finish the matter.

Efsun tries to steal the show during henna night. A big glitch—there is no happily married woman present to apply the henna to Seren! Cagla volunteers. She may not be married or have children, but she’s a happy, strong and confident woman. Olsun! Efsun gets too close to the fireplace and her dress catches fire!

 

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