Thursday, January 01, 2026

PRIMETIME on Univisión (#2) Papas Por Siempre, Doménica Montero, & Monteverde - Week of Dec. 29, 2025


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Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. MONTEVERDE still has a welcoming little patio and Papas still has a nice discussion going on, so drop in and join the fun!  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNsit would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

8-9 PM – Papas Por Siempre: Ep. 48-49

9-11 PM – Doménica Montero: 18-19

10-11PM – Monteverde: Ep. 38-39

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Papas #48 part 1

Circe and Checo are talking. He likes the project he and Edith are doing and Edith. They both have something to tell the other. He goes first, he’s moving to Canada. Circe says that’s so far from her.

Two days earlier rice is discussing her announcement with her parents. They think she’s doing something rash after her divorce. She always liked guys so this is sudden. Gisela comes in saying it’s the end of the world.

Unbelievably, Hernan seems to hit El Chacal with his cane and gets away.

Nazario is yelling at the kids. He goes in the both so they can sing. Prisma says they need rest. If he wants her opinion he’ll ask for it. He goes back to the kids and hits each one on the forehead. Lara Luz calls wondering when she and Rudolf can see the kids. He says it’s not a good time and hangs up. Prisma asked Nazario about Pipe’s medicine, as did Natalie to Pipe. I don’t think he’s taking it, but not sure.

Gisela blames the parents for Circe. She hopes Uli will be manly. They tell her she’s homophobic and not to try and raise their kids.

Serena offers to let Chachito watch one of her videos. Cheno says no. They end up doing a commercial for the gym in her video.

Aide thinks Circe is being impulsive, but she will support her if eventually she does like girls. Tino disagrees and she says she raised Circe and knows her better. Alexander comes in. He can go with his dad tomorrow as long as Melina is not present.

Hernan gives Melina the hard drive with Uli’s computer on it. He wants his share, she says it will raise suspicions if he leaves now. If El Chacal wanted to kill him he’d be dead now. Íker comes in glad to see his grandfather, who invites him out to dinner.

Edith asks Circe about them. She says they’re going out, but Edith has to grab her face as she looks at a handsome guy.

Tino comes in as Hernan and Íker are looking at his laptop. Íker takes the laptop and leaves. Hernan apologizes to Tino, he’s done a lot wrong but he did bring Íker to him. He asks for a hug.

Gisela is still going on about Circe and it being Aide’s fault. Aide’s had enough. Gisela asks about Hernan and Aide tells her he left early this morning. She leaves as Aurelio calls Aide.

Clara Luz and Aide ask to see the kids. Prisma says she’s there alone. Nazario is yelling at the kids at the studio. The guy recording says they’re tired. Nazario doesn’t care. Natalia tells Pipe to have a crisis, Pipe flips out yelling and flipping things over. The recorder is afraid something will get broken, so the session is over.

Aurelio gives Aide the proof that Herna stole the jewelry. He didn’t tell Gisela because she wouldn’t believe him. Also Hernan was threatening him if he told. Aide will take care of it. Meanwhile Gisela is yelling into her phone for Hernan to answer. She wants to discuss the crypto money and her new account. Uli asks if everything’s ok. He’ll help her on his laptop.

Tino asks about the girl Circe is interested in. She says she’s confused and he tells her to take her time.

Uli can’t find the account info on the computer. He says he doubts Hernan knows enough about the computer to do this. She says he does know. She finds the info on her phone, he finds it on the computer. She has no money!

Tino tells Circe Edith is older than her and probably already knows her sexual preferences. He tells her things have consequences.

Liz


 

Papas #48 part 2

Gisela is freaking out. Hernan took all his things. Aide asks what’s wrong. Gisela says he took all her money. They had a romantic relationship.

Lila is working for a sick coworker. Bill’s grateful and is going to give her a bonus. She’s saving for college to major in international business and go far away.

Gisela is still upset, Aide and Uli tell her she needs to calm down and denounce Hernan as what he did was fraud. She decides Melina is his partner. Aide tells her they came together, Gisela didn’t know this. Tino comes in and she yells at him for what his father did.

Hofis tells Jeni to leave Poncho alone, he’s a minor. She shows Chofis a bunch of pictures of females on her phone. I didn’t understand that.

Gisela,tells Tino what happened. Aide wants to call a doctor but she has medicine in the kitchen. Aide and Tino go to get it, Aide points out Melina could be a partner to Hernan. They also know he goes to the casino.

Melina denies knowing anything about what Hernan did. But she’ll do all she can to help them. They hug. She’s going to do all she can to find him. They kiss and as Tino leaves she calls Hernan.

Checo and Circe almost kiss but end up,saying adios. Circe’s friend sits down, wanting to know what’s up. She tells her she likes Edith, which brings a que from the friend.

Poncho tells Chofis he’s taking his medicine but wonders what girl would want him after she learns his first time was with a prostitute. Hofis tells about her first time and how she ended up in the hospital. She wants him to tell Serena.

Bill and Emi are talking basketball. Emi tells him Paulina said he could get the use of his legs back. Bill promises to be at his side.

Poncho tells Chofis he’s liked a girl named Kim, but now he likes Jeni. Chofis tells him she’s older, and he needs someone with the same interests. She leaves and Jeni owes up to him. After class she’ll teach him some fun things.

Melina talks to Hernan. It looks like he’s in the Las Vegas airport. Melina is mad, but he says he never got his money for the necklace. He ends up threatening her, which she can’t believe. He hopes he never sees her again.

A fraud investigator is with Tino, Aide and Gisela. It seems Hernan stole from Tino, that bank loan that disappeared from his account. Tono thinks back to the times his dad told him he wanted to help him, etc. The investigator tells them he’s surprised the bank never notified them. Tino blames his father’s skill at defrauding people. The investigator says a hacker can do a lot of things and Tino needs to denounce him too.

Gisela is saying Melina was Hernan’s partner when she walks in and denies it. Tino gives her a strange look.

Circe’s friend can’t believe her best friend is a lesbian. Circe wants her to have another coffee but she’s going to class. When Circe grabs her arm she pulls away.

Liz
 

DOMENICA

As was discussed in the previous page, we’re trying to resume discussions about this novela. I’m bingewatching this to catch up (currently in capítulo 12). Hopefully discussions of episodes as they show can resume soon. With luck, I can get caught up in a few days.

I tried to post a recap for episode 9 on the appropriate page but it just goes to “waiting for approval.” So I posted episode 9 on my own blog. I just finished recaps for episode 10-11. The blog post is here: https://crappymacbookuser.blogspot.com/2026/01/domenica-montero-english-recap-episodes.html?m=1

I hope I can post the recaps here on Caray Caray, and I know others are watching this novela who can help me fill in the gaps in the storyline.
 

Domenica

Elvira, I have no problem with you just posting the older episodes on the current page especially if you say which episode it is. For future readers of this blog that may read this in the future it is nice to have it all here. We're at the same episode currently.
 

MONTEVERDE #38, Part 1

Carlos explains he ran into Juanita, (doméstica), whom he knows lied to him; he instructs Padilla to search Monteverde, he has no doubt Carolina and Andres are there.

A broadly smiling Oscar is thrilled with the renovations have been made to the school; Carolina gulps and pretends she is happy as she side eyes him…

Lucas visits his deceased abuela, Francesa Rossi’s tomb. He says he found out his grandfather is Mexican, not Italian as he had thought. He is upset and searches for answers.

Manuel’s is decorated for Doris’ party as Angelina and Gloria arrive. The guests including Lucia, Rosalia and others, all looked pretty and excited to be there. Party pooper Julieta arrives in her perpetual plaid shirt but hightails it up to her room. The women are animated and look forward to a surprise guest’s appearance. 😊

Oscar tries to explain “fraud” to adorable Moises, talking about Carlos. He kisses his son goodnight and closes the door as the dear lad closes his eyes.

Hugo and Manuel are the bartenders as Diana, Doris’s sister gives a speech telling her sister that she loves her and is happy for her. The women enthusiastically toast, Angelina sipping on her oj.

Juan David and the man he gave a ride to who will be entertaining at the shower, arrive at Manuel’s. Without preamble he walks into the restaurant, revved up, ready to go. He wears a plaid shirt, vest, hat, jeans and cowboy boots. As he starts his routine, Juan David, standing off to the side, starts to mimic him. The guy is ripped and gets on the floor doing some fly moves. My namesake comments on how handsome Hugo is to Juanita who scowls in displeasure. Next, the entertainer rips off his pants to reveal black briefs! Doris is ecstatic as he puts her hands on his torso; she enjoys every second. Finally, the show concludes and he takes a bow.

The women are cheering their appreciation as he collects his clothes and throws a kiss. Money is exchanged and it must have been a bundle if Juan David’s bulging eyes were any indication. The women are so happy and Doris was thrilled. Juan David doesn’t seem to think the performance was that difficult as they get in the car so he can drop him off.

Carolina dries her tears as the partygoers return to the inn. Doris is positively glowing. She tells the women to please be quiet because Andres is sleeping. Trinidad can’t interest the women in tequila; they are tired and ready for bed. Carolina cries to Juanita…

Uh oh. Hugo and Manuel are cleaning up when seductress wannabe Diana returns. When Hugo gets on the floor to retrieve something she joins him and puts her hand on his face. He removes it and starts to get up but she stops him. She leans in and kisses him. It takes a second but he breaks away and stands up and firmly asks her to leave. I think she says it’s only a few kisses not marriage. He again tells her to leave. She does but not willingly. Hugo sighs and gulps, looking uncomfortable.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE #38, Part 2

The stripper seems to have put Angelina in an amorous mood. She and Juan David head off to the bedroom.

The next morning, Juan David gives Hugo back his car keys. He shows Hugo some “moves” which sadly are awkward rather than alluring. Hugo sort of smiles.

Carlos gives Padilla his instructions.

Rodrigo shows up and Lucia is curt. He argues again what a great opportunity she has but she is not convinced. I believe he says he is leaving the next day. (If only!)

Rosalia comes upon a downcast Lucas. She asks what’s wrong; he snaps at her then pulls her down to sit. He tells her the news about his father. She seems pleased his father is from Mexico; perhaps that information will help him find his mother.

Juanita and Hugo mop and talk about Carolina and the imminent danger from Carlos.

Oscar drops Moises off with Carolina and Andres. When she finally says she has something important to tell him, he doesn’t have time and is off and running!

Julieta and time waster Rodrigo talk. (Was it anything important? It never seems to be with him 😊)

The next morning, a hungover Doris holding her head, is eating as Diana seems to tell Juanita something happened with Hugo. Juanita marches off, furious.

Padilla comes into Manuel’s and Gloria, sensing a higher-end client, seats him immediately. Juanita comes out and he starts flattering her.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE #38, Part 3

Lucas, Franco and another ranch hand tell Oscar there is something wrong with one of the animals (I couldn’t say exactly what, was it a difficult birth?) All of a sudden Nestor materializes and tells Lucas to come with him. It seems Nestor has saved the day. Oscar pulls out his wallet and pays him saying they are not friends.

Gloria brings Manuel out to meet Padilla who is giving him some sort of story as Juanita glares from behind the bar. Gloria prattles on about Angelina as Doris tries to get her to back off. Manuel finally leads Gloria away.

Lucia delivers a delicious looking vanilla iced cake when Eva waylays her. She tells her she is with Nestor but complains Franco does not approve. Lucia has to tell her she and Franco are no longer together, which surprises Eva. She updates her about Rodrigo and perpetual problem Julieta.

Padilla sees Moises and Andres and recognizes Andres from a picture. In yet another instance of bad timing, Carolina comes out and the jig is up as Padilla stares.

Julieta has taken her plaid shirt off and confronts Franco. I understood little but I thought she confronted him about proposing to Lucia.

Padilla hurries off as Carolina looks after him nervously (as well she should).

In another discussion I had difficulty with, Lucia talks to Rosalia asking her opinion, should she stay in Monteverde where the love of her life is despite the situation with Julieta. The rest was lost on me.

Padilla goes to Manuel’s and asks about the kids; motormouth Manuel says Juanita is Andre’s tia.

Rosalia confronts Franco as he shows her his hand. Eva arrives; Franco is cold and calls her Senora. Rosalia gives her a packet of medication.

Padilla finds the famous gate and is forced to scale it to get cell phone service. As suspicious Moises watches, Padilla calls Carlos! Ahh, but sharpshooter Moises pulls out his slingshot and the rock hits Padilla right in the leg! A furious Padilla advances only to hear the click of a gun as Oscar hoists his rifle up to the back of Padilla’s head!

I thought the party was a lot of fun. I wish we’d seen Juan David in action but it looks as though we are going to have to wait a bit! I’m fed up with oxygen waster Rodrigo and I just want him gone! I guess there is a sliver of hope as Padilla wasn’t able to connect with Carlos but things look grim with discovery inevitable.

Can’t wait till tomorrow!

Diana
 

DOMENICA

Elvira, I've notified Rgv Chick of your posting issues.

I'm sure you will be hearing from her when she has the chance.

Diana
 

DOMÉNICA

Elvira, I’ve approved your posts already; hopefully you won’t have any more problems posting. Glad to have you back and so glad discussions on Domenica will resume!
 

PAPAS

Liz, once again, your recap was fabulous. You've done so much already and as I'm not sure if the rest will be recapped, I thought I would chime in now.

The walls were closing in on Hernan, no surprise he took a powder. Melina is not taking it well and I'm happy for anything that causes her pause. She feels invincible though and I can't wait for her downfall.

I felt badly for Tino, surely his father's cruel use and treatment of him were devastating.

I think Circe loves Checo and Edith is a momentary confusion...

"Gisela is saying Melina was Hernan’s partner when she walks in and denies it". Gisela always knew Melina was poison...

Thank you for filling in so many blanks I had!

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE Extras parte 1

Thank you, Diana.

Carlos tells detective Padilla to be very careful in the way he handles Juanita because it will not be easy to get any information out of her at all. Next, he has to take care around the townspeople who are very strange as well as the priest who is a real weird guy. Carlos doesn't really care about finding Carolina. He wants him to focus on finding Andrés. He has a hunch they are very close to finding him.

Oscar wonders if the lack of excitement about the school on Carolina's part is because with the inauguration of the school, her life as a nun will be ending. She tries to convince him that doesn't regret her decision and the only thing she wants is to be with him. He can only see the school bringing happiness!

Lucas concludes that his grandmother must have had a reason for not telling him who his father was.

Rosalía tells Julieta they are having a bachelorette party and since she is not invited, she can vacate the premises immediately. Julieta answers with a smile and wishes them a good time which just galls Rosalía.

Moisés concludes that Andrés' father is a thief and asks his father why he can't adopt Andrés like he did him. Oscar would not hesitate but then reminds him that Andrés has a mother who will be coming back for him once she clears up her own situation.

Manuel has put Gloria to bed with a movie and she is asleep!

Diana mentions to Juanita that she prefers Hugo over the stripper. Juanita reminds her that Hugo isn't leaving her as she has told her already! Watching the stripper performance, Hugo tells Manuel he could do the same thing. Manuel thinks not. Hugo has no rhythm.

Carolina tries to explain to Moisés why kids cannot go to the bachelorette party. It is for adults only, it is going to get over really late and he has classes earlyy. He really wanted to go. . .

The stripper offers to help Juan David to get his own stripper business going.

Carolina explains to Juanita that she is drinking her mezcal because she is upset: the school is finished! Her time is up and she has to tell the truth.

Diana says she came back because she left her pashmina shawl behind. . . She makes it clear that she could be interested in just hooking up and nothing serious.

Angelina tells Juan David how much she was impressed by the stripper. He was, too.

Juan David gave Octavio the stripper Hugo's cellphone number so he can call him when a stripper job comes available for Juan David. Hugo asks why his number. Juan David doesn't have a cellphone and he will need Hugo to drive him when a job comes available. He is planning on paying Hugo a commission. Hugo smiles and agrees to do it.
 

MONTEVERDE Extras parte 2

Carlos is going back to Mexico City to take care of business as detective Padilla goes to Monteverde. The detective is confident he will find his son and will call him with any information he finds out.

Lucía tells Rodrigo that Franco proposed to her but she turned him down. She loves him but couldn't accept after what Rodrigo did to her. It isn't the right time yet. BTW, she isn't in Monteverde just for him. She likes the place, has friends who appreciate her and enjoys making pastry. He wants to know what to tell Gastón who just sent his proposal. He is offering her the job of agency director making 50,000 pesos ($2,788 a month) plus benefits. It is what she always wanted. She agrees but that was before. Now she values other things a lot more. He tells her to think it over and let him know tonight. He is leaving tomorrow.

Juanita explains to Hugo the whole Carolina dilemma and how the school being finished enters into the situation. She hopes that school never opens up. Hugo pauses as he considers what she just said.

Gloria offers to do the breakfast dishes since Manuel has to go to work. . Manuel thinks she is a delight and nothing like what people say about her. She becomes defensive asking what people are saying. He trieis to smooths it over answering not to pay any attention to what he says as he maneuvers his way out of the room. It doesn't work as Gloria follows him and demands to know what people are saying about her! She tells him he cannot hide out in the bathroom!

Oscar tells the boys that he has a surprise to show them that afternoon.
Oscar has to leave because he is concerned about a mare giving birth. They can talk later.

Rodrigo tells Julieta that Franco proposed to Lucía but she didn't accept. He thinks she should take advantage of the situation.

Diana asks Juanita who Hugo is going out with. She answers nobody. Diana tells her how she planted a big kiss on him the night before but she didn't get the positive reaction she expected. Juanita suggests that maybe he didn't like the kiss. Diana sure that he did. She kissed him because men like women with initiative. She thinks he is shy. She likes those kinds of guys who bring out her savage side. Doris says her sister is "sick" (perverse) and a go-getter!

Detective Padilla tells Gloria that he is a writer doing research in town.

Oscar gets the bad news that his mare Catrina is worn out and unable to deliver her colt that is in a bad position. Oscar insists they can handle it on their own. Out of nowhere, Néstor magically appears saying he heard that Catrina was having problems. Oscar says he no longer works for him. Néstor knows that but cannot see the horse dying for a lack of veterinary care.

Detective Padilla tells Gloria and Manuel that he writes "novels of manners" which tell of the customs in different areas. He is there to do research in Monteverde. Gloria sits down and starts to tell him her own story of being a selfless mother who left her own comfortable life . . .

Eva advises Lucía not to let too much time go by before getting back with Franco. She is sure that Julieta is going to take advantage of the situation doing whatever it takes.

Néstor tells Oscar that he owes him nothing for his services because they are friends. Oscar says that is the problem. They are not friends.
 

MONTEVERDE EXTRAS parte 3

As for the proposal, Franco tells Julieta it is none of her business and not to get involved. She feels it is all her fault. No, he doesn't want her to talk to Lucía. She only has to be concerned about her baby. They both are excited about being parents even if they are not together.

A worried Carolina asks the boys who the man was. They do not know.

Rosalía tells Lucía that she doesn't know what she would do and wouldn't want to influence her anyway.

Detective Padilla now has a new name Antonio Flores. Manuel has plenty of stories to tell him for his upcoming book. He says he saw a nun. What does she do here? Manuel says it is Sister Celeste. Padilla thought it was odd seeing her in town. Is there a convent? Manuel tells him about her coming with a group of women who wanted to start new lives in Monteverde. As for the boys he saw, Manuel tells him that Andrés came with his aunt Juanita. Suddenly Padilla needs to make a call. Manuel directs him to Oscar's.

Rosalía tells Franco how he messed up things with Lucía by proposing to her. He knows but now needs her to take a splinter out of his hand. Eva barges in asking for an acetaminophen for her headache. She invites Franco to supper to talk. He tells her not to waste her time.

Oscar tells Padilla "Don't you dare!"
 

MONTEVERDE

Jarifa, thank you for crystallizing all of last night's events and doing it splendidly as always.

"The stripper offers to help Juan David to get his own stripper business going". Juan David hasn't even dipped his toe in his new career yet (so to speak) and he already is going solo!? This is going to be fun.

"Rodrigo tells Julieta that Franco proposed to Lucía but she didn't accept. He thinks she should take advantage of the situation". What a rat...(no offense to rats!).

"Eva barges in asking for an acetaminophen for her headache". She has asked Rosalia for other and/or the same meds, is this a red flag or am I overreacting??

Will Nestor continue to be a pariah or is there a way back??

Loved "Oscar tells Padilla "Don't you dare!" I cannot wait to hear the ensuing conversation.

Jarifa, thank you for all of generous time in making every episode come to life and light.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE

Another great episode with our characters who are a very complicated bunch.

I loved that Néstor would not let a horse suffer and die with her colt. He gets one lonely "thumbs up" from me.

My favorite scene was Moisés with his trusty sling shot and papá Oscar not letting Padilla lay a hand on him.

I, too, cannot wait to see Juan David in action. Loved how he roped Hugo into being his driver and his contact. That means that Hugo will be that much closer to the stage himself.

Here is hoping that Oscar prevents Padilla from making any phone calls from his property.
 

OT

Elvira, great to see you back on the patio!
 

MONTEVERDE

Jarifa, "That means that Hugo will be that much closer to the stage himself". Surely Manuel must be wrong in that Hugo has "no rhythm"??? I think the only fair thing to do is to let him perform. I'LL be the judge of that! 😊

Diana
 

Papas,
Liz, that was a great recap that captured every twist as the plot turns and the villains are starting to be outed ! Yay! Can't wait to see the wicked fall one by one .
Uli didn't have much of a storyline this season .
Chofis has Chofis has been the voice of reason amongst the youth . Jeni was taken in by this family, but she has not Been grateful or helpful . She is a viper in their nest.
Has just gets mire and more abusive to the twins and Prisma. I think Prisms is finally opening her eyes to this crazy, dangerous guy.
Gisela isn't as smart as she thought she was . Susan
 

Domenica

Elvira, I will appreciate your recaps . it will be great to be able to discuss this show with someone . I have a lot of questions . Susan
 

Thanks! I will do that, but also post on the appropriate page so that it’s “in order” for people coming here much later.
 

Thanks! I deleted the duplicates and were good to go!
 

Thanks, Jarifa! Nice to see you here! Another familiar name!
 

Hi Susan! I’m binge watching and know I’m not getting everything, but I hope between everybody here we can fill in all the blanks!
 

DOMENICA

As promised, some retroactive recaps. I don’t know if subsequent recaps can be this detailed - it’s time consuming! I just write what I remember, sometimes out of order. My Spanish is intermediate level and subject to mistakes, so please correct mistakes and fill in blanks!

Capítulo 10-11 blended together with maybe a bit of 12 - PART ONE

We resume with Domenica bickering with Luis about the tearing down of the fences that keep her cows from getting water from the Laguna. He warns her that he won’t be letting it happen again.

And he’s right; he and Prudencio are waiting with rifles when Genero and his men saunter up later to bust down the fences to water the cattle. There’s a kerfuffle, and later Generó shows Domenica a bullet hole in his hat and says Luis did it.

It’s a lie, Genaro shot his hat himself and also shot one of the cows (!!!!sadistic desgraciado!!!!) to pin it on Luis. Domenica is outraged at Luis. Later there is a conflict between Domenica, Luis and Generó and Luis is incredulous that Domenica believes her sketchy foreman; she replies that she “trusts her people.” But privately to Generó she says she’s not assuming he’s always telling the truth.

There’s also a thing where Luis wants his men to be armed and not allow anyone from Domenica’s side on their property - that lady is loca! So, tensions are high.

Godfather’s son Ernesto (I call him Cute Lawyer) is planning on coming to the hacienda but they have to get a few things ironed out in the city first - establishing where the boundaries are between the two haciendas, and also to officially change the name of the hacienda from La Joya to La Abandonada. Cute lawyer first thought that was a joke, but she’s serious, so he’ll take care of it.

(It turns out that nobody is able to get concrete evidence about where the land borders are, which frustrates Domenica.)

Also Domenica wants Cute Lawyer to calculate back pay, with interest, for all the work Pedro did unpaid. She’s not letting that injustice stand; she was indignant when she found out how long he went unpaid.

Meanwhile, Pedro is really thrilled he’s going to get paid, even though he was always happy enough to just have three hots and a cot for a day’s work.

Generó is pissed, knows it makes him look bad that he took advantage of Pedro like this for so long (though he has some BS excuse to Domenica about why he let it go on). Privately, he threatens Pedro, calls him a “nobody” (this is a recurrent theme) and demands half of Pedro’s future pay. Pedro is fed up with this bad treatment.

Which is why, when he visits Luis’s hacienda later, he accepts their offer of a job. They treat him well and like he’s a real person!

Domenica is disappointed when she hears Pedro is leaving; she assumes Luis only offered him a job to annoy her, but she accepts Pedro’s decision. Generó is not so accepting and privately threatens Pedro, and also (I think) threatens harm on Nieves, unless he keeps his mouth shut.


 

DOMENICA episodes 10-11 part 2

Luis has money problems regarding keeping and maintaining the hacienda - his mom is worried and wishes he’d just sell the hacienda and be done with it. In fact, she meets a manipulative and obsequious Kiara who assures her that she’s “not like Domenica” and offers to try to convince Luis to sell the hacienda. I think Kiara just wants to get closer to the cute doctorcito.

Domenica rides her horse over to Luis’s hacienda, challenging the armed guards to shoot her in the back if they’re so inclined - of course they don’t.

She delivers a check for Pedro’s back pay. What’s fair is fair - he earned it. Luis cynically comments that Domenica is only offering the check because she doesn’t want to get sued! She rolls her eyes like whatever.

It turns out it’s for a MILLION pesos (about $33,000 US dollars I think?). It’s for 7 years of labor. Pedro is ecstatic and Luis in shock. That sum seems too high just to try to avoid a lawsuit.

Long story short, Pedro wants to invest his million pesos in Luis’s hacienda. This will help their money problems considerably! Luis and Mercedes strongly advise that he use the money wisely, save it, invest it, buy necessary things, but Pedro is adamant and also feels like it is a wise investment for his future. Finally Luis agrees and Pedro says, “So I’m your socio (business partner)? I own part of a hacienda! I’m no longer a nobody! I’m no longer Don Nadie or Pedro Nobody!” He dances around, elated, and hugs Luis. It is a lovely scene with this sweet young man.

Meanwhile, Prudencio’s granddaughter gets a message from Osvaldo that he wants to see her. She sneaks off to see him at his place. Without getting into it all, he pressures her to “show” how much she cares for him, she balks as she is not ready, he pressures her more, she naively relents, but her virtue is saved by Gossipy mom walking in. Mom blames the girl for trying to “trap” her son with a baby. Gossipy mom treats the girl terribly and Osvaldo just throws her under the bus, coward that he is.

Prudencio’s granddaughter gets into an argument with Prudencio - she accuses him of being over controlling when he warns her that her reputation will be smeared in town because of all this.

Prudencio is so hurt by her words and he confides with (I think) Luis that he can never replace her father, that he’s failed, and that he’s “just an old man.” He says he has a choice of letting her have her own way (so she’ll love him again), or alienating her in order to protect her from ruining her life. He’s so despondent that he says he’s going for a drink, but Prudencio doesn’t drink!

In the evening Domenica and Kiara decide to go into town (can’t remember why) and have drinks at the cantina. Coincidentally Luis and a drunk Prudencio are there too.

Gabriel, who also sings at the cantina, introduces his “new song based on the events of our beloved town.” It turns out to be an incredibly cruel song mocking Domenica, telling about how she was stood up at the altar and scammed out of millions.

Prudencio and Luis look shocked. Kiara switches from smirks to slightly upset. Domenica fights back tears, but defiantly gets up on stage to say that the people in town think they’re hurting her, mocking her, but she’s stronger, she’s gonna wear the abandonada thing like a banner, and essentially, screw you. She also tosses paper money at Gabriel as his tip (propina).

Somewhere in this episode Kiara asks her friend again if there is news about the pregnant lady that she hit; the friend doesn’t think so. Kiara says at least the lady lived, the baby died but the baby’s life “doesn’t count.” Even the friend says that according to the law, the baby does count.

They also say something about looking for clues to find that scoundrel Max Langer.

 

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There’s also a thing about the ring found on the scene when Luis’s SIL was hit. There’s a security guard who witnessed everything and thinks it belonged to the car that hit her - police aren’t interested, so Luis has this ring (which of course is Domenica’s ring that she tossed away the day of the wedding but Kiara picked up). Luis thinks this ring is an important clue to who killed his unborn baby.

**The cantina song scene was at the end of episode 10, but I may not be telling all the events in order and there will be some blurred edges between what happened in episode 10 and 11.**

We return to the cruel cantina song. Luis is so angry that he punches Gabriel and a fight ensues. Prudencio is drunk but backs up Luis. The major parties leave, Gabriel and the rest of the people at the cantina resume their festivities, etc.

In the middle of this episode somewhere we have Prudencio meeting with Nana (Nicolesa?) at some bridge or whatever. It turns out they had a thing, were sweethearts, back in the day. Prudencio says he never found love (though he does have a granddaughter so he was married?) but whatever - they had a thing back then and still seem real sweet on each other.

Padrino (Godfather) surprise visits Domenica - he’s recovering from heart issues and isn’t supposed to stress himself by making the long drive, but he says he’s just going where his joy is, which is her, so it’s all good. Later his son Cute Laywer (Ernesto) arrives to see his dad there.

So now everyone is with Domenica and they’re staying for a while! Domenica is surrounded by her loved ones.

Genaro is bickering with his business partners, Gabriel and the presidente municipal, because (I think?) Genero isn’t trying to push Domenica out as much as before - I think because he assumes he’s going to “tame” her and end up being the “dueño” of her hacienda eventually. Also, he’s thinking that she’ll buy Luis’s hacienda so they’ll have access to both properties to benefit their “businesses.”

Somewhere in this episode Genero decides he’s got to make a drastic decision in order to establish things with Domenica - he turns in his resignation because he’s so “hurt” that Domenica doesn’t have full confidence in him. It’s a bluff, of course. Domenica isn’t falling for it as he’d hoped, she says that if he wants to go, who is she to hold him back? But, she’s willing to keep him on - so he jumps at that. She asks him a favor, which turns out changing the big sign at the entrance of the hacienda - removing the “La Joya” sign to “La Abandonada.” It’s an overnight job.

 

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There’s also stuff with Genaro working to prepare all the fake invoices and receipts to back up his bookkeeping (Domenica wants to see EVERYTHING). He’s claiming she burned some of this paperwork, but in fact he’s just working to fake documents to cover his theft and corruption.

There’s also a thing with Cute Lawyer who is clearly courting Kiara, who encourages him. Genero is jealous, but she tells him she’s just passing time, Cute Lawyer is family, what are you gonna do, and she thinks he’s corny and too intense.

We have a brief mention of that money that supposedly Tia and Kiara have - but I believe Kiara blew on Max - Tia thinks they still have it and can start a business with it.

There’s also a thing with Domenica focusing on helping the orphanage, she loves the kids there and even if the lose donors (people have lost faith in her businesses due to the scandals), oh well, she’ll just devote more of her income to support the orphanage. She also says she doesn’t think she’ll ever have kids because she doesn’t intend to trust a man ever again, and it takes two to have kids. So, the orphanage kids will be “her” kids.

There’s also a thing where Kiara is shimmying up to Gabriel, being too flirty, pretty much under his wife’s nose, and he’s all for it.

Kiara is disappointed when Luis’s mom Mercedes acts like she’s not as determined to get Luis to sell the hacienda (we know this is because Pedro is now a socio, and Mercedes has a great motherly affection for Pedro).

In another scene, Pedro, who cannot read or write, asks that someone help him write a thank you note to Nana (Nicolesa) for her kindness. Mercedes does this, and also tells him that she will teach him to read and write asap, as he is now a businessman!

As Nana gets the letter, Nieves asks her to read it aloud, as she wonders what Pedro has to say. It’s a sweet letter, and ends with something about, “what I’ll miss most” and Nieves hopes that Pedro mentions missing her. But no, it’s his horse he’ll miss. Nieves is tearful and deeply disappointed and leaves. Turns out Nana lied, in reality Pedro writes very sweetly about how he’ll miss Nieves and is very complimentary.

We end the episode with Domenica deciding to take a swim at a spot where she and her parents visited when she was a little girl - sweet memories there. She swims with no top on. You guessed it, this is telenovelaland, so of course Luis coincidentally happens to be fishing in a nearby spot. She sees him swimming near her, is annoyed, accuses him of spying on her. He “protests too much” and says he’d rather kiss his horse than her. This prompts her to kiss him impulsively, and he responds with complete enthusiasm - so much for preferring to kiss his horse!

End of episode 11!

Note, I saw a few minutes of episode 12, so if some of that bled into this recap, I apologize.

 

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Checo and Edith have officially finished their project. Checo takes a few pictures of her and is ready to talk about their personal lives. Edith says it’s not a good time and rushes off.

Poncho tells Jeni he’s not interested as he’s still in treatment for his STD. She’ll wait but meanwhile they can do other things. His friend comes up as she blows him a kiss and leaves. The friend wants to hear details.

Gisela is sure Melina is involved in the fraud, she did steal her daughter’s husband. Melina says she’s trying to help locate Hernan. Tino defends Melina and Gisela wants the money she loaned them back. Aide says they don’t have it.

Scarlet asks Gisela how she’s feeling. Uli told her Hernan had stolen valuables from her and that they were going out. Is her heart broken. Gisela says no one’s ever broken her heart. They hug and are going out together.

Tino tells Rudolf he feels it’s all his fault for believing his father had changed. Rudolf says he’s not the only person who’s father let them down. His father was violent. Tino gets a message from the band, they’re going on tour. Rudolf thinks that’s great but Tino doesn’t think it’s the best time to leave his family.

Rudolf and Clara Luz go to see the kids. Natalie goes to them right away but Pioe hold back. Soon they’re all hugging.

Nazario is with Melina. She says he’s to blame El Chacal for the murder. His kids will be a success and Maximax can represent them. Melina tells him not .to forget he owes her a big favor.

Clara Luz found the song the twins recorded with Gibron. She’ll ask her boss to produce it. She plays it for them, they’re sound great and are excited.

Jeni comes on to Poncho at home. They’re alone and can do things to enjoys each other. He has to study for the Olympics. She asks him not to tell Chofis about this as she’s her only friend.

The kids tell Clara Luz and Rudolf about how horrible they did at the studio. But Pipe says he’s was calm. They’re proud of him. Prisma comes in and says they have to go, Nazario is on his way. They rush out and Prisma tells the twins not to tell Nazario about the visit. They’re surprised she wants them to lie, but she says just don’t say anything unless he asks.

Serena shows Cheno and Checeto the video they made, with likes and comments. Cheno says they’ll all be famous.

Melina suggests they tell Señor Urbano about the debt and maybe Aide will be able to give her mother some of her loan back. Aide is surprised at the offer.

Liz
 

Domenica

Elvira...woweewowwow...I just saw the multiple recaps you posted . I will start to read them as soon as I can . it's so sure that they will answer many questions that I have had. Susan
 

Papas #48 part 4

Lila and Bill are talking when Paulina arrives. She wants Lila to talk to her brother about the surgery. She has, but the surgery didn’t work before. Paulina pushes, and wonders if Lila has problems with her stepmother and that’s why she won’t talk to Emi. She says fine, she’ll talk to him, and leaves. Paulina thinks Bill should talk Aide into it. He tells her to find out everything about it, risks, etc. first.

Melina suggests she and Íker accompany Tino on his tour. Tino doesn’t think that’s a good idea. Íker goes to do his homework and Melina offers to pay Gisela the money Hernan stole. Tino says Gisela doesn’t even like her. Melina says she feels Hernan used her and Íker to get close to him, so she feels partly to blame. Tino says thank you but Melina tries to pull him in for a kiss.

Circe wants to talk to her friend, who doesn’t want to talk to her. Circe invites her to the cafeteria it she says no, eEdith comes up to them and her friend goes to a group of boys. Rice calls out love is love, it doesn’t matter who it’s with, she then invites Edith to the cafeteria.

Melina got the kiss from Tino, she tells him they have a future together and he should tell his kids they’re in a relationship. He says no, he told the kids they’re were with him for Íker and also because of El Chacal. Melina feels he’s divorced and Aide is probably in a relationship with Bill. Meanwhile Aide is telling Bill it’s too soon and he’s saying she’s divorced. She’s most worried about Uli’s reaction. Gisela comes in thrilled to see Bill. He offers to help her with her problems. She goes to answer the door. Bill wants to do a celebration with the kids singing. Aide says Tino is talking about doing that.

Aurelio is talking to Gisela. He offers ro help her but she has it all under control.

Edith asks Circe about what she did in front of her friends. Circe says aren’t they novias. Edith agrees, she likes woman, but especially Circe. She needs to tell Checo but Circe offers to do it.

Rudolf and Clara Luz are discussing the twins recording. Because of Nazario’s temporary custody they have to be careful. He wants to exploit the kids. Martin comes in and meets Rudolf. Rudolf seems a little perplexed.

Aide is telling Tino about Bill wanting a celebration with the kids singing. Afterwards, Tino tells Melina the song was recorded for the family. Melina says if Aide wants to include Bill, he should include Íker and her. Not for her, for Íker.

Emi wonders why Lila doesn’t want to be around Aide and Tino. She came to talk about the surgery. He’s not sure, it didn’t work before. She tells him he’s always been brave.

Circe tells Tino she and Edith are a couple. If she’s happy, he’s happy. She tells him about her friend Lorena. He says to be patient.

The celebration is about to start. Circe isn’t ready to introduce Edith to the family. They kiss, but rice turns so it’s on the cheek. Edith runs into Checo. He suspects she must be dating someone else, but is shocked when she says it’s Circe. Lila and Emi are trying to leave Paulina to go to the cafeteria. She doesn’t understand why they don’t spent more time with her. Emi says he’s having the surgery. She’s thrilled as they hurriedly leave.

Paulina is seen talking to a doctor. The operation is risky and Emi could become paralyzed. Then we see her talking to a layer. If Emi can’t manage his money she can apply to control it. She’s pleased he said yes to the surgery.

Liz
 

Domenica
Elvira,, your first recap answered some questions for me. Pedro seemed like a goodhearted poor soul who wandered between the two haciendas.
Brandan Panic he is much better playing villains than heroes .He is chewing up the beautiful scenery wearing that black bet that be shot a hole in !
Gee, she renamed the place . ouch.Thanks so much .Can't wait to continue .
Susan
 

Papas,
Liz, thank you. A lot happened in this episode , and many evil deeds are coming to light . Will we ever find out what Aide and Tino did , or what Lila thinks they did . Most of this season has been focused on bad parents hurting instead of helping their children .
I suppose we all know that everything will be all right by the finale. I have been wondering if this season had different writers than the first season . I think the first season made More sense . Susan
 

MONTEVERDE

Diana, excellent point about Eva asking repeatedly for something for her headaches. It is also odd because she is asking basically for a tylenol and yet has none? Something doesn't seem right there. Do the writers want us to notice those headaches? Could there be another reason she wants to make amends? Hmmmmm . . .

Perfect description of Rodrigo being a rat. Will he ever be gone? Tomorrow cannot come soon enough.

Can't wait to see Juan David and his dancing skills.


 

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Liz, thank you. This was great.

As terrible as Paulina is, I was horrified she is willing to gamble on the surgery knowing Emi might be paralyzed!!

I'm also anxious to know the secret Lila knows.

At least Gisela has Melina's number. Melina is really pushing Tino.

Nazario is a monster. I'm a bit surprised Prisma is tolerating him. Pipe was smart to create his faux tantrum in the studio.

Liz thank you.

Diana
 

Domenica
Elvira, I just read your second recap and cleared up more things I had questions about . Thank you so much !
I was confused about who Ernesto and Padrino were. I thought that Padrino was Kiara' s father . Is Padrino married to Kiara's mother ? I guess nasty, jealous , scheming Kiara's mother is Domenica's aunt , and the two girls were raised together by Kiaras mother when Domenica's parents died , and Dominica inherited their money . Kiara and her mother have been living off Domenica's wealth all these years. Kiara pretends that she loves Domenica like a sister, bit she is jealous of her and despises her . Kiara set Max up with Domenica . She loved Max , but that grifter deserted her, too. Why did the aunt and Kiara move to the hacienda? Susan
 

MONTEVERDE

Jarifa, are there no drug stores there that Eva has to ask Rosalia for over the counter Tylenol?? I do think her headaches have been mentioned enough for me to be suspicious. I don't believe she knows she is sick (if indeed she is) but I've thought all along there would have to be some powerful reason if she and Franco reconcile.

Hopefully, Juan David will get to strut his stuff at the next shindig! :)

Diana
 

Domenica

Elvira, I just read your excellent third recap . Is Nana the woman who lives with Domenicas's family and seems to usually support Domenica? I wonder why she didn't tell poor Nieves that Pedro asked about her . I remember that at some point Pedro fought with Gabriel's slimy son when he came home with the pretty granddaughter . I still get confused with the names .
Goodhearted Pedro saved Luis's mother from quicksand , so she took him under her wing .
Kiara likes men . Her mother has become a screaming mimi. I think she is married to Padrino who seems to really !ove and support Domenica.
Susan
 

Domenica

Susan, I thought padrino was Kiara’s dad too, but he appears to be Domenica’s dad’s best friend; he is her lawyer and some sort of advisor or advocate. Ernesto (cute lawyer) is his son, and a friend of the family, who also does work for Domenica.

It’s been emphasized that Pedro is an orphan that was (I believe) found in a tomato crate. I’m not giving spoilers (because I’m only up to the middle of cap 14 and am writing the recap for that now) but we can easily guess that Pedro is Luis’s dad’s illegitimate son, whose mother died in childbirth. There was a scene in some prior episode where Mercedes refuses her husband’s plea to raise his second son after baby momma dies. Mercedes just can’t do it. She now feels guilty, wondering what happened to the kid.

All the foreshadowing suggests that Prudencio knows all this, is keeping quiet, and is waiting until she’s ready to find out what happened to that kid.

The thing that gets me is that Mercedes didn’t demand that her husband abandon the baby in a tomato crate - what the hell happened? Couldn’t the husband set the kid up with some sort of support, like boarding school or something? Or did he die before he could do that? Or maybe he did send money for support, but after he died the support ended and the kid was dumped?

In any case, it is really played up that Pedro is a “nobody” with no parents, and no status, so him being a socio with Luis really affects him. I’m so looking forward to the truth being revealed; you know that kid has a heart of gold and won’t hold any resentment (though in the episodes I’m recapping, Mercedes does fear that).

I think he and Prudencio are some of my favorite characters. Nana, yes, she was some sort of nanny for Domenica and since she spent time in the hacienda and knows stuff (and had a thing with Prudencio) I think she worked for the family for a long time.

I think Tia’s husband is dead, and Tia and Kiara are from the poor side of the family (Domenica’s mom’s side). Tia was like a mom to Domenica when her parents died.
 

domenica

Great comments here! I love that we have a patio. This is such a great story! Thank you Elvira!

I suspect Nana might know that Pedro and Nieves might be half-siblings or some other TN secret that makes them incompatible. I can’t think of any other reason for her to hide from Nieves that Pedro mentioned her in the letter.

Padrino was Domenica’s father’s best friend. Tia is her mother’s sister. In an early episode, IIRC, it was clear they didn't live in the same house. Maybe just good friends united in support of Domenica.

Babachita
 

Domenica

Tia loves Domenica but assures Kiara that she is her daughter and her joy. Kiara is just a jealous bruja. She’s always saying that her mother favors Domenica; I think partly that’s true, simply because Domenica is a nicer person - what’s not to like?

It’s also been mentioned a few times that Kiara has been set up in various careers, but she always quits halfway through and won’t stick to anything.

Tia and Kiara (and everyone, really) came to the hacienda primarily to hope to convince Domenica to come to her senses and return to the city. Domenica made it clear she’s sticking with the hacienda and hopes to make it grow and be successful.

There’s something about Domenica wanting to sell the mansion in the city, along with many other properties and businesses, which means the family couldn’t stay in the city anyway. Tia keeps on mentioning their “patrimony” money, from the sale of an apartment (?), which I think was about 6 million pesos ($300,000 something US dollars?). Which we know Kiara gave to Max. Tia thinks maybe it’s time for them to stop mooching off of Domenica (though in know Domenica doesn’t view them that way) and support themselves by starting a business.

There’s stuff I’m missing, details I may not be understanding, so hopefully someone more fluent than me can clear some of this up as we go along!
 

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