Saturday, March 31, 2007

La Fea Más Bella #243 3/30/07 Comments from the Peanut Gallery *with commercials*

I'm sure that everyone who has complained about the endless cuartel scenes was secretly hoping for MORE of the cuartel, not LESS. Tonight, your dreams were fulfilled!

And to maximize the thrills, I'm including the commercials. I'm sparing you none of the excitement!

Breakup finale

After Fern breaks up with Marcia, he takes his little bitty bag of hope and leaves Marcia's apartment FOREVER (we hope).

Oops no - just as he's getting to the door, Marcia comes out of her room to watch him. He turns to her, and she waits hopefully for him to speak.

He says "adios." And with that, he's gone. Marcia cries some more.

Exit night, enter light

It's morning. Luigi gathers his courage and raps at the door of Aldo's rented home. As Aldo approaches the door, Luigi begins squeaking with terror and says please don't answer the door if you're still mad at me! Aldo smiles tolerantly as Luigi explains that Rulli's waiting for him and they're getting back together and going on a vacation.

Aldo says that's good, and Luigi is relieved, because he thought Aldo would be furious with him after the stunts he pulled last night. Aldo notes that it would have been worse if those pranks hadn't completely failed. Luigi babbles some more and expresses more embarrassment over how stupid he was. He begs Aldo's pardon and says he admires Aldo, not only as a man, and a professional chef, and doesn't want to lose his friendship.

Aldo gives him a hug and suggests they continue working together after Luigi comes back from his vacation. He gives Luigi an affectionate pat on the behind, which delights Luigi, and sends him on his way. He gratuitously flashes his Ultra-Brite smile at the camera.

The Vortex of Infinite Stupidity

The cuartel arrives en masse, as usual. They're back in their usual clothes, hair, and makeup, which is mostly a blessing. Martha says her big fat wolf loved her new look, they reheated their dinner (?) and she told him all about the cuartel's triumph. Sara dramatically says that if it hadn't been for the cuartel, the expo's grand opening would have been a disaster.

Irma says it changed their attitude. Sara says they're no longer the same as they were.

Aldo enters the vortex with a great big wrapped present. They bid him a very fond hello and want to know about the present. He says it's going directly to the president. (Oh no... what is it this time... a bowling ball-sized pearl... a monster ladyparts seashell sculpture... a water fountain that's slightly bigger than the one Fern gave her... a lobster... something crummy he bought from a poor kid at the airport....) He gets a phone call and excuses himself.

The cuartel giddily speculates as to what's in the box... PM wonders if it's a gigantic sparkly ring. (She's so cute, it's too bad she has no brain.) Juana guesses that it's a big bag of money. Sara thinks it's a nice tall grandfather clock. Irma thinks it's - hey, I like this - she thinks that to begin their newly changed attitude, maybe they could stop gossiping!

In Lety's office

The novelty of Aldo's daily gifts hasn't worn off yet for Lety. She (wearing something that looks pretty nice) is delighted and opens the box right away. She looks inside and is speechless. Inside is a much smaller box, covered in black velvet. She peeks inside and slams it shut, impactada! She opens it again and we see that it's a...

NECKLACE!

"What the hell do you call this? When I saw the little box, I was expecting a ring!" Lety exclaims in disgust. No she doesn't. But that's what I thought I saw on her face for a minute there.

She reads the card, which tells her that "keeping hope alive is part of the success in life." "And in love," Aldo adds. It's no Carvajallmark, but Lety is charmed. Aldo shoos the cuartel away and shuts the door. He tells her it's to mark her successful presidency. Inside the heart is the fire of his love, which never fails to win (something like that). Lety says sometimes the heart can lose all of its battles. He says they're just battles, not the whole war. And he's sure he'll win this war. Lety walks around her desk to give him one of her "special child" (for want of a better, more PC term) hugs and tells him that's what she wants the most. Again it looks like there's going to be a kiss, but then there isn't. "Really, Leticia?" he asks. "Do you really wish you loved me?"

Lety says of course, but they should change the subject because they have to work. He asks if she likes the chain. Now maybe someone can help me out with this, because I'm not sure what is happening. He says "may I?" and she says yes and he takes the chain off of her and then apparently puts it back on. Is he removing the medallion that Psychic Guy gave her and replacing it with the heart? Or is she not wearing the medallion at all... or... I'm confused.

Meanwhile she's talking about their commercials for overseas and she has appointments, etc. And he says it's also time to evaluate the results. Lety says soon they'll find out if they've earned the 2,166,666 dollars they need to pay Conceptos's debts. (She is wincing nervously as Aldo puts the new necklace on her and smells her ear.) He tells her he's going to his office and check up on the progress of his restaurant. He tells her he's done (putting on the necklace) and she wiggles away and giggles nervously.

Commercials!: Nuestra Belleza Latina; Bailando por la Boda de mis Sueños; DVD; send money to your pals; sanitary pads (not pitched by Juan Soler); credit cards; CDs; Easter sale at the place that isn't Wal-Mart.

Back in the vortex

The cuartel are disappointed to have been shut out of Lety's office and Irma scolds them again for their gossip. Lola whines, but Irma says they'll feel better when they become the New Cuartel. Some of them agree, but not PM. And Martha says she'd rather die. And Lola doesn't know what they'll talk about. Sara pompously tells them they can talk about... uh... many things.

"Lots," says Irma vaguely. "Big things," she says uncertainly. Sara prompts Lola to talk about something. Lola says all she's got is her stuff about El Cheque and alimony. Martha says she'd rather have a really good piece of gossip than a "torta cubana" with ham. (A "torta cubana" is the Mexican version of a Cuban sandwich... it's a long story, but the short version is, they're good to eat.)

Irma says if they really can't manage it, she'll offer incentives. Martha suggests tostadas, tacos, hamburgers, hot dogs, etc. Sara says instead of incentives, how about punishments. Lola thinks she's been getting punishments all her life, but Juana and Irma like the idea.

Aldo comes out after he finishes putting Lety's necklace on her. They all get giddy again. As soon as he's gone, PM wonders if maybe Lety didn't sleep well last night. Martha wonders how anyone could sleep without knowing which bed Fern slept in! Lola attributes her own sleeplessness to being excited about Aldo being in love with Lety. They all squeal.

Sara (of the no-gossip contingent) wants to know what the three of them are talking about. Lola says they should form a musical group. Martha and PM eagerly agree. "You're not gossiping, right?" Sara asks sternly. They deny. "Remember, we're the new cuartel - prudent, sensible, humble," Sara says. (Oh my God, I just realized she probably hit her head on something! She's losing her mind! That's the only possible explanation for her bizarre behavior!)

"You're right," Lola says, and Sara goes back to her desk. The other three resume their gossip - did he or did he not sleep with Carla, did he go see Marcia, etc. Irma comes back from Luigiland and they pretend they're talking about food or something. They assure Irma that they are definitely not gossiping, they're being top-notch executive secretaries - serious, respectable, discreet.

They applaud themselves, which cues the arrival of the biggest clown of them all, Alicia. Talking on the phone and wearing a nice (if too small, as usual) steel grey outfit. (Actually, if they're going to truss her up any tighter, maybe steel wouldn't be such a bad idea, as long as they keep her away from magnets.) She's on the phone with Papi, as usual. She tells him the expo was a huge success, thanks to her. She's dead-tired from working so hard! (See? Clowns are funny!)

She says goodbye to her Papi. "Tell him I said hi," Sara says jokingly. Dumb, pointless, insipid conversation follows. They brag about their successful performance; the oxigenada says they're circus performers, etc. "We applaud you, Cornilocks" PM tells Alicia. Alicia says she applauds her dog when it "gives thanks" (I'm thinking she means "makes peepee").

Passing through the Vortex, Fern greets them and asks for Aldo. Sara tries to tell him something, but he's already gone. Alicia goes to her desk and the rest of them flock together to gossip. Martha says she's surprised to see him intact; maybe he didn't go to see Marcia as they had thought. Irma gives them a hard time about gossiping, as well as fighting with Alicia. They'll have to do something nice for Alicia as punishment. (Wow, Irma's mean!)

Deep thoughts with Aldo DomensaEEN

Aldo is just finishing a phone call about business (the commercials, not the restaurant) when Fern comes in. Fern pretends to be surprised that Aldo is still there. He said he figured that after the expo, Aldo would leave and they could use his office for storage, or it could be an office for useless things. Aldo invites Fern to become the king of the office, if he wants it.

Fern says he thinks Aldo's work on the expo is finished, he doesn't have to continue hanging around Conceptos, right? Aldo says he's sorry to tell Fern that he's terribly mistaken. He's still going to be there for a long time. Fern says it's his job, and they don't need Aldo, and Fern especially doesn't need Aldo on his team. Aldo says Lety needs him on her team. Fern says he's funny. They both laugh sarcastically at one another.

Fern tells Aldo he should go back to Acapulco and his restaurant because something something (about a blacksmith?) wants their chef's personal attention. Or the manager could be stealing money. Aldo has to go check to make sure the customers are paying for their meals.

Aldo asks if money is the only thing Fern cares about, because Aldo doesn't do it for the money. (That's what all the multimillionaires say!) Fern says what a great philanthropist Aldo is - he saw someone like that in a movie.

Aldo calms himself and says he's not leaving until he's finished with his commitment. He just spoke to Guillermo, and guess what? He wants Aldo to continue running things, as Fern's boss. Fern touches an animal figurine on Aldo's desk. Aldo takes it away from him and then waves it at Fern, making some kind of animal noise. "Oh, Fernando," he calls as Fern is leaving. "What?" Aldo waves goodbye. Fern waves back angrily and closes the door.

Aldo makes an angry neck-wringing gesture.

Meet the new improved Beatnik Marcia

Marcia enters the Vortex wearing an interesting black sorta beatnik-looking outfit which is really cool except for maybe the strange cap (not unlike the one Carla wore in NY, except smaller). She gives the cuartel a chilly hello. Alicia rushes up to her, wanting to know about last night. She adds that the cuartel has done nothing all day except gossip. Sara denies this. Martha says they're the New Cuartel. "Uglier than yesterday, that's for sure," Alicia says. Marcia says she's not interested and she's not in the mood. She stalks off to her office, followed by Alicia, who apparently IS in the mood.

Lola and PM can't wait to begin gossiping about THIS. Sara warns them. (Fern listens curiously behind them.) Martha whines that not-gossiping will make her sick. Fern dashes across the lobby.

Commercials!: Destilando Amor (anyone notice Ana-Leticia Villaroel was the madam in tonight's episode?); Selena special; cell phones; CD; nightclub in Randolph; dish; newsbrief.

Alicia follows Marcia into her office, wanting to know everything. (Marcia's office has been redecorated in a very green scheme; I just remembered, when Humberto talked Marcia out of quitting, wasn't one of his anecdotes about how Marcia picked out the colors for the decor? If so, she must REALLY hate the ultra-green of her office; it's a far cry from the more neutral tones it had before.) Marcia scolds Alicia for mentioning things in front of "Lety's spies."

Meanwhile, Lety's spies - what's left of them, just Martha, PM, and Lola - are trying to figure out how to get the information they need without Sara catching them. Lola says she has a classic idea - she pitches forward as if having some type of attack. She asks Sara to help her. Sara lifts her up and carries her to the restroom. "The things I have to do for gossip," Martha says, hurrying to Marcia's open door. There isn't much to hear yet, since Alicia is still talking about nothing.

Marcia then says that Fern left Carla at the hotel and came to her apartment to break up with her. He gave her no options - he told her he didn't love her. Alicia says Fern always says that, but they always get together again. Marcia says it was different this time - he took away his things. He's not coming back to her. Alicia asks if this is about that Carla chick.

Marcia notices the door is open and hisses at Alicia to close it; the company is filled with ears! (Martha scurries away.) Alicia calls her paranoid, but she looks outside; seeing "no cockroaches," she closes the door just to be sure. She asks Marcia what excuses Fern gave her to end the relationship.

Marcia says that Fern's still in love with Lety. Alicia is impactada.

Meanwhile, in the administrative boardroom (that is, the ladies' restroom), PM and Sara comfort Lola, who seems to have made a miraculous recovery. Martha rushes in to update them on the latest gossip: Fern broke up with Marcia for good. PM wants to tell Lety right away and rushes out. Sara yells at them; Lola suffers another "attack." Sara suspiciously asks if Lola is pregnant.

Commercials!: Nuestra Belleza Latina; newsbrief; cell phones; Bailando Por la Boda de Mis Sueños; used car dealer in Leominster; seashell skin cream; eat your vegetables.

In Lety's office

Lety's talking business on the phone with Ricky Armstrong; she's pretty sure Conceptos made the 2,166,666 dollars they needed. Paula Maria wanders in looking lost; maybe she got a golpe en la cabeza too. Lety says goodbye to Ricky, and PM prepares to share the exciting news with Lety. Lety says that if it's about Fern, she doesn't want to hear it. PM says if she can't share her gossip, she'll need better pay! Lety begs for mercy and even puts her fingers in her ears and sings lalalalala. PM says, "you don't want to know that Fern and Marcia ended their relationship permanently?" Lety says nope, she doesn't care. It's not even the first time they've split up. She supposes it's because Marcia saw him with Miss Carla, but they'll get back together again, she can promise that.

PM says no, she didn't break up with him... HE broke up with HER. He's not coming back to her. He took his things. Lety asks if PM is sure. PM explains that Martha heard Marcia say it to Alicia, and Martha told them, and it's PM's job to let the president know what's going on around the office. Lety says it's not work stuff. PM says the important thing is that Lety finds out things before making drastic decisions.

"He did it for Carla," Lety says, looking for reasons not to get her hopes up. PM sarcastically says sure, right, it was CARLA who moved him like no other, uh-huh. But then, Aldo's in love with her too. Lety admits she doesn't know what to do or not do, but she hasn't forgotten about Aldo - if she didn't have him around, she wouldn't be able to tolerate that place a moment longer. She thanks PM for her support. PM says she'll be there for her any time she needs a friend.

Alone, Lety tearfully muses that Carla affected Fern in a way that she wasn't able to. She changed Fern's heart.

In the green room

The cool beatnik chick is telling an incredulous Alicia that only Lety was able to change Fernando. Alicia argues loudly; Marcia loudly asks her to keep her voice down so the whole company doesn't find out that Fern is in love with Lety.

Marcia says that when he was in love with her, he told her that she was luminous, that he would like to lose himself in her; the reason he no longer loved her was partly her fault.

"YOUR fault? I can't believe he told you that!" Alicia exclaims in outrage.

"Fernando spoke of two Marcias, a marvelous one he fell in love with, and another one - crazy, jealous, possessive, oppressive, smothering."

"And which one were you?" Alicia asks, confused. Hey... maybe SHE got hit on the head too.

Marcia admits that her anxiety made her controlling, but she's not sure if Fern only said that to assuage his own conscience, or.... (I'm thinking maybe Marcia should watch some of those episodes where she'd get even angrier when she DIDN'T find any evidence of his infidelity...) And then when Fernando finally took his things home for the first time ever, that's when she realized she'd lost him forever.

Alicia is sympathetic, not only to Marcia's pain but also her own. She tells Marcia not to put it that way - it'll make her cry.

Marcia says she doesn't want to lose Fern, because she still loves him, even after all this. She loves him with all her heart.

Commercials!: Destilando Amor; paper towels; prescription drugs; Nuestra Belleza Latina; boner pills; nightclub in Randolph; Sintonice Pachanga Latina (some sort of gossip show I think).

In the bathroom

Sara continues to stare at Lola and Martha disapprovingly. Lola and Martha decide that if Sara, Juana, and Irma don't want any part of their gossip, that's their problem. Sara's disappointed that the team is falling apart, they're putting their personal interests first when the should stick together for Lety. She scolds them - do they want Lety to continue suffering over Fernando? If they keep talking to her about Fernando, she'll never be able to get married to Aldo! They have to help her forget about that cheating man.

Sara tells them she'll forgive them this one time because she's a kind-hearted woman, but if they do it again she'll tell Irma and they'll be punished severely. She kicks them out of the bathroom and tells them to get back to work. She congratulates herself on her badness.

Oh gosh I'm just so worried about this terrible rift among friends, oh the angst, I can't bear it.

Blah blah blah

Alicia asks Marcia if she's just going to take this with her arms crossed. Marcia says no, but she has to think, she's very confused. Alicia angrily says she'd better do something, not only because Fern broke up with her, but also because he put the blame on her.

Marcia smirks and notes that Lety doesn't trust him, and Marcia's not going to make it easy for him. Alicia reminds her that Fern made it clear - he doesn't want anything to do with her. Marcia says that where there was fire, there's now ashes. Alicia says yes, but there's a saying, something about the present and the future, and dancing at Chalma. That sounds like it might be funny, but I don't quite understand it.

Marcia says that after what happened between Fern and Lety, Fern knows that he can't get Lety back, because he betrayed her, so maybe the doors aren't completely closed against Marcia after all. (Oh Marcia, make up your mind!)

Alicia asks what Marcia is going to do. Marcia says she's not going to lose hope for now. She knows that Fern can only be happy if he's with her. (Cuckoo... cuckoo... cuckoo...)

Angst in the Vortex

PM, Lola, and Martha try to arrange another "meeting" to gossip. Sara wants to "help." They turn down her offer and she watches suspiciously again as they huddle and whisper. PM tells them Lety didn't take kindly to the information about Fern being with the "executive from New York." Martha wonders why Lety is so upset about Fern when she can have the lovely Aldo. (Sara watches them through narrowed eyes.) Martha says it's like having a piece of chocolate and not being able to eat it.

Irma comes over and wants to know what they're talking about. Lola insists it's about her cousin Rupert. Martha says something about an árbol with the accent over the A. PM says they were looking over her little boy's homework. Irma says she thinks maybe they're just doing the same stuff - gossiping.

Carloca shows up. She's wearing a really sweater, but it has wide black stripes and there's a WIDE BELT between the stripes so it just looks like one big long black piece around the middle. "Hi Miss Carla," they sing in unison. Carla laughs and says it reminds her of grade school. She asks for Fern. Sara solemnly offers to inform Fern that he has a guest.

In the Rehash Room

Fern is looking at a report and talking to himself, saying that Aldo will have to leave the company someday. Sara knocks and comes in. Fern is too absorbed in his dreamworld to notice that she's there, and gets up to answer the door. He is gratuitously impactado to see that it's her - after all, she knocked - is it really her, or did they switch her with a double? Oh, hahahaha. He rewards her with a pencil and wonders if she took a course on how to be more respectful of her boss's privacy.

Sara says she wants to inform him that Carla is here to see him. "How formal," he says. She asks if she can tell Carla to come in. She thanks him and says it was a pleasure to announce her.

I'm telling you. Head injuries would explain a lot. I just would like to know how so many Conceptos employees happened to get head injuries all at the same time.

Sara goes back to the Vortex to fetch Carla, who's examining PM's scary talons. She tells Carla that Fern will see her. She offers to show her to his office.

Alone with Fern at last, Carloca tries to kiss him. He dodges her advances, gives her the lesser seat, and kisses her hand. She comments on Sara's "discreet" behavior and asks what he did last night. He tells her he split up with Marcia forever. It wasn't easy because they'd been together four years. "And she still loves you, right?" Carla asks.

Fern says he felt really bad, they had both made errors, most of them his, and she had suffered a great deal because of him, and he feels very guilty. Carla says he finally made a decision that was good for both of them. The past can't be changed, but we can learn from it and not make the same mistakes again.

And how did Marcia take it, Carla wants to know? Fern says Marcia didn't want to break up, of course. Carla asks if Fern is relieved. He says yes, very much so.

"Great!" Carla replies, preparing to move in for the kill.



Next week
Lety, Marcia, Fern, and Carla meet in the boardroom for a rollicking fun game of Twister.

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Comments:
Hilarious recap, Julie. Thanks, as always. You know, I didn't realize that Alpo was bringing daily gifts to Lety because the length of the days is so unpredictable.
 

Ay Marcia! Denial ain't just a river in Egypt!
I can't believe that after all the problems with Luigi, Aldo STILL pats him on the butt. Hello?

Tani
 

Thanks Julie. I'm new to telenovelas and never watch American soaps. I prefer non-fiction or news programs. I am wondering if there is any similarity between the soaps and telenovelas.

Also I haven't visited Mexico as I usually go to Europe or my former country of S. Africa as my family still lives there. I'm also wondering if these telenovelas are any reflection of real life in Mexico. One of the reasons that I wasn't keen to learn Spanish was because I thought that it was too close to some of the desperate conditions in my former country - great disparity of wealth and a lot of crime.

Lynne
 

Julie...Great recap...thank you for the "Special Hug", yep that is what they look like...anyone who doesn't believe..watch Lifetime.

Isn't it funny, everyone gets forgiven but Fernando.

Lynne: TeleNovelas in no way reflect real life except that the rich people are whiter, more European looking, they are a ruling type class..I have never actually met any of the upper class while in Mexico, but plenty of the lower & middle class. There is great poverty, people don't come here and leave their families for some great democracy idea..they come for econmic reasons.
 

Aldo was removing the PG guy medalion and replacing it the necklace.

>>>Fern says what a great philanthropist Aldo is - he saw someone like that in a movie.

Actually, Aldo tells Fern not use words he doesn't know the meaning for. Fern says he knows the meaning, he saw it in a movie.

It was on okay episode I guess. I want to see more humor or something. I could have gone without seeing it.
 

Mari,

I don't think he took off PG guys medallion because i saw another chain when he put on the hear necklace. It looked like a total screw up. First the heart in the box was on a rope chain, then Aldo took a rope chain off Lety's neck and threaded the heart onto it before the uncomfortable fastening scene. At least in this "special hug" moment she didn't stick her behind out like she usually does.

I guess some of us celebrated the demise of the burjas too soon. I can't understand why Carla still is in hot pursuit of Fern when he oh so obviously hardly wants to touch her. If some guy reacted like he does when she tries to kiss him most of the dumbest women in the world would get the hint but not her. Added to that she knows he is in love with another woman. What a sap!

I also thought Aldo's reactions with Luigi after all the drama were over the top, hugging him and the butt tap. I realize that Latin men are more tactile and hugging is common but you'd think he would rein it in a bit. I can't decided if he is just clueless or cruel.

Well that meeting on Monday should be hell on earth for everybody but Carla.
 

Yuck WAY too much of the cuartel. In reality the only thing we got out of an hour last night was Marcia telling Alicia that Fern broke it off and still loved Lety, Luigi went of vacation with Ruli, Aldo is still in the gift giving business and the cuartel is still full of itself and can't resist gossiping BECAUSE they have no life. Too bad that they only got part of the breakup story to pass on. I also picked up a vibe that seems to indciate they are going to do what they can to get Aldo married to Lety and Fern out of the picture. Poor Aldo is goose is cooked for sure!

Janet
 

I know most people don't like Aldo but I do like his angry exchanges with Ferny. I think they are hilarious. Specially their usual lines (not used yesterday) of "Hasta que te asfixies!" "Hasta que te mueras!" ("until you choke" and "until you die" as opposed to "Hasta luego" which would be "until later" ... The equivalent of "see you later").
 

Okay, I have a question for y'all today! Which More "filler scenes" would you rather slog through?

1. The Cuartel?
2. MoTy?
3. A review of Lety's gift & Card collection by Fern and Aldo!??? (Is she now registered somewhere do you suppose)?

What is your preference and why?
 

What Alicia said was something like "Eso no se resuelve ni yendo a bailar a Chalma" which means that the problem has no solution. Chalma is a place where people go to ask for miracles. I found this link, it has a little more details http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/espanol/cultura_y_sociedad/religion/detalle.cfm?idcat=3&idsec=19&idsub=0&idpag=1023

Maricruz
 

Hey Louise,

I'd go with Moty or card registry (I'm not even going to include the cuartel). Unfortunately episodes like these confirm to me that while it may be tempting as a producer to extend your novela, for the sake of the fans of the novela JUST SAY NO.

Karen
 

Since I loathe the cuartel, collectively and individually and I'm afraid of dogs I'd have to go for the registry and at this point Aldo may be ahead on quality but Fern is way ahead on quantity.
 

Thanks so much Julie!
I thought Aldo was a little out of line with Luigi and the pat. You would think he would keep his distance. Too bad Luigi didn't turn around and respond with a clever comment asking Aldo if he was interested.
Poor, poor Marcia. It looks like she may not take no for an answer after all. Fern is SO gorgeous and irresistible but the girl has absolutely no pride.
Only Lety seems be able to resist him. I don't think I could be that strong.

Carrie L.
 

I'd go with Moty, because he sees and hears things no one else does AND he has a different perspective on people, life, and love!
 

Aldo did not remove the necklace that PG gave her. If you look closely you can see that Lety is wearing the PG necklace and a silver chain. Aldo removed the silver chain and put the pendant on it. So don't worry Julie. Oh and I thought Carla was gone and we were never going to see her again... so what is she doing back at Conceptos! I know its hard for Marcia to let go of Fernando, but that's because she's been with him for 4 yrs. What's Carla's excuse... if he's backing away from you when your trying to kiss him, not once but twice, that should tell you something. Maybe all that hairspray destroyed some of her brain cells.

Esther
 

my fav commercial (from an abogado's office hereabouts) announces "tu problemas are mi problemas"

"Leominster" "Randolph" aha, Julie, you live in Massachumetts!
I thought it was only verbal the 2x I lived in boston, but I just found this spelling in 3 places, an invisible-print site-key-word troll for posters of boston -- (you'll get to your poster site no matter how you spell it) (I don't know if ebay still allows its sellers to use invisible print); an mit edu archive (grads never claim to be able to spell); and a serious biochem paper
"From the Medical Clinic of the Masachusetts General Hospital, the Department of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, and the ==Massachumetts== Department of Public Health, Boston, Massachusetts" (equals signs added for emphasis) (biochem labworkers prob never win any spellingbees either) (also note the other Mass-misspelling).

/mab

Lynne:
mercifully, mex soap operas e-n-d.

[whizzed over to loc during break in slc broadcast, gotta whiz back to mtghs; look forward to seeing the rest of these comments monday afternoon]
 

Yay, recaps!!!
I was looking forward to the Fernando and Aldo scene...but Aldo didn't play it off too well with Jaime's hillarious antics last night. Jaime seems to be just on top of everyone's game.

Can't wait for Monday's epi! Marcia, Carla and Letty all alone with Fernando...
 

Julie, you managed to jazz up this dull episode with your funny recap!
Special child hugs--LOL! Can we attribute the awkwardness to her not really wanting to hug Aldo?
I saw on the msn home page last week that the wide belts are in, so I guess we will be seeing them on the trendy ladies. Personally, I hate belts. On guys-ok, on women-unnecessary.
Louise--I vote for the Moty scenes, because he is just so darn cute!

Teresa
 

Julie, you are always delightful! It’s a very entertaining recap and left me chortling (it wasn’t painful, no te preocupes). I wasn’t at home and couldn’t see this one, won’t be home until Sunday evening, and the recap is my “pleasure reading” for today after hours of editing student handbooks in a hotel room.

“Lety walks around her desk to give him one of her "special child" (for want of a better, more PC term) hugs” ROTFLLLLL! This was a major chortle for me.

Boy, oh, boy, I am reading about the new and improved cuartel, but it’s hard to picture them without their chismes.

“"And which one were you?" Alicia asks, confused. Hey... maybe SHE got hit on the head too.” Nah. For Alicia, that’s congenital, and it was from birth, too. ;-)

I never got the impression that Carloca would give up and go home to NY. She’s way too cagey for that. She set her eyes on Fern in that taxi the first time she saw him and decided he was the one she wanted to go after. I don’t think she actually loves him as she says, I think she’s just decided she wants him, for whatever reason. At least she has good taste even if she is tacky.

Jeanne
 

Is anyone watching Yo Soy Bea? Do you know if there are translations anywhere for the show?
 

I watch yo soy bea and I've been looking for translations too, but haven't found any. I like La Fea Mas Bella better though because Fernando & Lety have much more chemistry than Alvaro & Bea.. and la fea is much more comedic, while Bea is more serious. If you find any translations, please let me know.

Esther
 

Thanks for sharply funny recap, Julie. The Aldo/Fern exchanges are fun. I'm getting really sick of the cuartel, so it would have to be Moty or the card/gift collection. The collections should be set up so we could compare them easily. Moty needs a less passive role. The way they use him, he's only a notch above a stuffed animal. Maybe we could see "The Secret Life of Moty" and what he does when he's home alone. Or, we could let Moty narrate the story from his point of view.
Please, just let Marcia sulk quietly, Carla return to NY, Lety soften her heart to Fern, and the money pour into Conceptos so we can get this mess wrapped up.
 

Julie, thanks for the funny recap. Those commercials are getting to me. I'm thinking of ordering Emegrace Slim.

Did Omar call in sick today?

Marie from Mass
 

Decie Girl:

The thing about the butt tap...I am no expert, but I have been around Mucho Latin males, for twenty years, most have been from Zacateccas(sp?) & Guererro, I can tell you, that would never ever happen, also the teleNovela cheek kissing done by everyone, I only saw one person do it in Mexico City..and she was about 19 (watching too many telenovelas), I don't know if the people from those states are just more reserved, but my husband's relatives don't hug (which being from a long line of non expressive Anglos makes me a happy camper)...the only time I ever saw a guys hug each other was when they were very drunk. It is an exremely macho culture and even hugging of the wife in public is a no-go (only little boys do that...meaning horny teenagers).
 

Hey did anyone else see Jaime Camil on Otro Rollo just now? It was hillarious because he was doing a skit where all his friends were ugly, but they were the only ones getting hit on at bar... and Jaimie was considered to be the ugly one out of the whole group! He ends up leaving because none of the girls want to talk to him. I've never watched Otro Rollo before, but today I just turned it on and then I heard one guy say Jaimie Camil's name. I hope you all were able to see it too! If not, I know the show repeats at 2:00 a.m. where I live. Trust me, it's worth staying up late to see!

Esther
 

About the cheek kissing- I expereienced that all the time in Guadalajara when I was last there---I was there with one of my children and whenever I met someone who already knew her- kiss, kiss! I also saw that to a MUCH greater extreme in Cuba. Same deal--you meet someone new and if they know someone you know, its' kiss, kiss on both cheeks.
 

Re; Lynne and Beckster exchange about I'd like to Mex soaps refelecting real life.: I think in many ways they do--culturally-speaking. Naturally, there is a lack of realism e.g. continual violence or the immediate forgiving of horrible, mean people who turn nice, but I think many of the differences between our culture and theirs are reflected well in these novelas- the emotional intimacy, the role of catholicism, the constant use of diminutives, the family closeness, the politness ("con permiso" even when you are FURIOUS!), various behavorial expectations....
Looking for more comments from natives.
 

Hey GRACIAS to all of you that went along with my little "quiz of the day"! LOL. It was just something to fill in the weekend, and for grins, but I LAUGHED at your replies, they were great!

I dreamed last night that there was a SPIN OFF from LBMF! Somehow, Erasmo's Tío Lazaro had a girl (who would be Lety's brainy Fea cousin). Anyway, she ended up at Conceptos and the whole thing started up AGAIN! Yikes! Talk about a Dream Sequence..!

I personally would love to see more of Moty--maybe carrying some of Fernando's stuffed toy presents around?? Or maybe he could be wearing Lety's new heart necklace on top of his collar?? Perhaps the PG could do a Pet Pychic reading for HIM?? As loony as this would be, it still beats more scenes of the Cuartel, in my book!
 

Perhaps the PG could do a Pet Pychic reading for HIM?? As loony as this would be, it still beats more scenes of the Cuartel, in my book!

Anything would be better than scenes with the cuartel.

I didn't think Fern was reading a report when Carloca flew into his office. I thought he was writing in a diary. It looked more like a bound book than the folders I'm used to seeing reports in.. Speaking of diaries Lety does have a tendency for hers to be left on her desk or in a drawer which always make me nervous that one of the snoops in Conceptos (which covers just about everyone) could easily come across it.

Diane
 

LOL, Louise! I definitely love Moty and I'd like to see him fight Luigi's dog, Diva.
 

I always feel sorry for Moty when I see Mama J. carrying him around. It looks so uncomfortable for him. Kind of like carrying a sack of potatoes.

I really like the cuartel individually but hate the stupid things they have to say and do. Lining up to talk, always acting silly, the same dumb jokes over and over.
PM is very nice to Lety, Irmita is super sweet to everyone, Sara is very nice to Fern and Omar.
They are all very likable, just unfortunately don't seem to get many good scenes or dialog written for them.

Despite all the flaws I am still loving the show!!
I have had a lot of fun watching and then reading all the recaps. I know it will be sad when it all ends!

Carrie L.
 

MOTY! MOTY! MOTY!!!!!


Se me antojo! Se me antojo! La comida mexicana conquista el corazon!!!

I can't stop singing that! Ever since the Cuartel of Red! I'm dancing around singing it at work, in my car, on the front lawn (it's ok because my neighbors already think I'm nuts).

I don't know. My experience has always been kisses. Sometimes if Latins think you are too American (read white) they might shake your hand thinking you aren't used to this custom, but everyone I know from all the different parts do the kiss, and we do it here just as much.

Butt taps on the other hand....uh uh. Unfortunately, macho culture still pervades (though tolerance is growing) and well, most of the machos I know are homophobes and would never do a butt tap. Manly hug with the back pounding thing, but no butt taps unless they were both of Luigi's club. Then it might be a flirt. So, that was just Aldo teasing Luigi, I think.

Se me antojo! Se me antojo!
 

I asked my husband again about the cheek kisses and he said he never saw it in Guererro (which by the way is the poorest state in Mexican, and very rural). Could it be kind of a class thing? I mean Caro kisses Lety, but never the cuartel, never Simon, she will kiss Fer, but I don't think Tomas.
You know like that fake kiss kiss thing the elite do in movies.
 

When I was in Peru, everyone kisses everyone. Hello and goodbye. My boyfriend's family is from Guanajuato, Mx and they all do the kiss-kiss. The butt tap is another story.

Most of the time you kiss-kiss people in your family or circle. Of course the executives at Conceptos aren't going to kiss-kiss the secretaries or cleaning staff.
 

Years ago, when I was a foreign exchange student in Mérida, Yuc., Mex., that was one of the very first "Cultural shocks" I encounterd! Geez, I came from a background that was basically polar opposites when it came to the greet/kiss thing. I had to train myself to get over it, and get used to it, and to DO IT! LOL.
Now, of course, I think they are charming when they greet one another that way.

I also had to get used to the 'Chaperona" deal...now that was REALLY different. See, the culture was so warm about the greetings and farwells, etc. but when it came to dating...you HAD to have a chaperone before you could go out with your novio--or you didn't go!! That applied to any "Decent" girl. However, Gringas were exempt...I guess they figured we were hopeless cases or something like that. I remember having to BE a Chaperona once for my Mexican Sister...What a RIOT! I am still close to Mi Gente, several people there and CanCún, after all these years.

I absolutely LOVE MEXICO AND MEXICANS! (One more side note-Spanish is NOT the language of the Ghettos)!!! I HATE that sort of Stereotyping.. Qué Viva México!!
 

I've seen the abrazo's and back slapping a lot and some of the kiss, kiss but it tends to be restricted to people who know each other well, a lot like the French.

Guererro is poor but it has some gorgeous beaches and not just the developed ones at Acapulco, PV and Ixtapa. We lived in the state for months and there were some spectacular beaches not far from out place where you had to take cabs and then hike out and flag down rides to get home. I always thought that Chiapas was the poorest state since it doesn't have the big tourist bucks that Guererro has.


Anyway I though Aldo's butt tap and hug of Luigi were inappropriate after all that had happened.
 

They were definitely inappropriate, but clearly it was a cheap thrill for Luigi, who seems to thrive on inappropriate anyway. I just don't know what I think of a man who says to himself "hey, I think I'll throw Luigi a bone by smacking his butt, that ought to make his day."
 

Nah, when CNN was in Mx a couple of weeks ago, they did a report from Guerrero, they said it was the poorest state & many of the people have gone to the US., the places I have been to are in the area called Tierra de Caliente..the border between Michaocan(sp) & Guerrero, yep, in March it was 115 during the day, there are high mountains surrounding everything and they mostly just get rain during the Hurricane season. The old people don't kiss me, but they do like to pat me on my head, while I am sitting. They are really nice & everyone is related to everyone else, but basically it is dying, there is nothing to do there anymore and everyone has left for America or moved to the big cities like Morelia. Some people have built really nice big houses with AC & everything, but they only use them on vacation.
 

I forgot, there Satellite TV, but only one AM radio station..& since I was there at Christmas, there were a lot of people there cause they have a big fiesta, I looked to see and no one was using a cell phone..no reception.
 

I'm counting the hours 5 for me, until tonight's meeting from hell. Let's see we have poor Fern and his harem.
Who will be the most distant and coldest - Fern (living his worst nightmare trapped with two women he doesn't want and the love of his life)

Who will be the coolest, most professional - Carloca (scoping out the competition and trying toi win points by being nice)

Who will do the most sulking - Marcia (broken hearted and hating the competition while schemeing to keep Lety from knowing Fern's feelings)

Who will act the snottiest - Lety (clueless about what is really going on, hating the competition even though she doesn't want her one true love - idiot)

This would be the perfect meeting with a large dose of Luigi's valerium.

Cassie
 

Thanks. By the way is there anyone here from Spain. I absolutely love Spain.
 

is lettie still jogging every morning?
and eating asparagus&c-healthyfood?
(waddayaknow I typed it right - never had to spell it b/f)
her exercise & the right food has been going on, now, for ? a month ? lfmb-time
(has it been a month since returning frm ald's homebase?)
(esmas doesn't have a ep-time-chart; I'll bet somebody does *scroungingsounds*)
most-everyone I know by the third week are ready to BitE people;
Lettie seems mostly soandso-reasonable
(didn't somebody say that A.V. in real-life was also doing likewise bcs of her part in this telenovela)
do we viewers just assume Lettie's still on the ald-health-regimen?
but rosieO won't bother showing her doing it anymore?
(quicksurvey shows 99 people spell regimen this way and 91 people spell it regimine)
do we cut the same slack for Lettie as for our friends? -- i.e.,
if she Bites someone it's only bcs she's half starved

/mab

Cassie ("counting the hours"):
2 hrs for me
[gotta go home in a littlewhile to see lfmb]
 

Hey Lynne, could you help me out. What were you trying to say about Boston Massachusetts and Harvard?
 

I think we are to assume that Lety has been dieting and exercising. Me, in her position, I'd definitely be ready to bite someone (and to be fair she HAS been quite irritable. And I would have been eating SO much ice cream... actually, come to think of it, I HAVE been eating a lot of ice cream... hmm...

BTW yes I'm in "Massachumetts," but I've never heard or seen it spelled that way before... seems like a weird type to me... but then it can be a pretty strange place too, sometimes.
 

Weird TYPO, sorry... LOL...
 

Julie: I tell myself if I put
banannas or raspberries on
VanillaBean IceCream it's good bcs of the
FreshFruit.
(MySelf gets a spoon and doesn't argue.)
[dogpile tells me that bananas is not spelled banannas. oi]

"trying to say": that's me - ya got my numbah
(always tryin and never quite managing --
and that's with only OneLanguage).

I was just enjoying the local commercials in Mass. compared with the local commercials in D.C. --
I wonder what commercials other UnivisionAffiliates are running in usa
(I go get popcorn so I mostly missEm.)

when I lived in BeanTown there were a number of verbalizations (by transplants, not locals) of the state's name including Mammachusetts*
Massachumetts and
Mammachumetts (the fav or the silliahpeople I hung out with backthen)
(I was just surprised to see anybody ever typed them up - whether accidentally or on purpose)

*Fuzzy Set Theory and its Applications (Kluwer Academic Publishers, Mammachusetts, 1996).

/mab
 

["until tonight's meeting from" 7734]
Cassie: you're right about the mtg

So, if I leave rightnow I can get some icecream to take home, and not miss the last 30 seconds of the telenovela ending just b/f lfmb.
(I had no idea modern people lived in caves so I always take a 30second lOOk to see if they're in their Cave.)

/mab
 

Boston, Harvard, Mas... can't even spell it. I come from Africa and am interested in differences in culture.
 

Lynne:

This person:

"Anonymous said... Hey Lynne, could you help me out. What were you trying to say about Boston Massachusetts and Harvard? Mon Apr 02, 06:03:00 PM EDT"

thought my comment about Mass. was your comment about Mass. I ignored that they were talking to the wrong person and just answered them.

Culture in usa big cities is mostly just a lot of culture-shock. People are in from all over.
Take Boston's Harvard & MIT, for instance, the best of the best are there from all over and suddenly they are struggling to just be average middle of the class. It takes a lotta high maintenance to hold up your friends and keep them out of serious depression.
The most interesting thing about people's traditions are when they all meet in the same apartment building from all over the world and start sharing. One lady will show another how to wrap a sari. Her husband will show his new friend how to eat a concoction poured over rice that has had 2 handfulls of hot peppers stirred into the mix without FLAMES shooting out of his mouth.
Etc etc.
It is the sharing of cultures that gets interesting.
In London they have job swapping on boxing day for bosses to understand the help, but better yet if you stuff one family each from all over the world into large apartment buildings everybody would finally learn to get along.
One thing all cultures share in Boston is driving 80 mph on storrow drive. Within a month they either are all doing it or absolutely refuse to drive a car in Mass.

/mab
 

The 2011 discussion for Capitulos 243 & 244 is at this link.
 

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