Saturday, March 17, 2007
Mundo de Fieras 3/16/07: "Some Mothers' Answered Prayers and Certain Other Mothers' Worst Nightmares"
Leo finds a beautiful young woman crying in the woods nearby his little clinic. She only tells him her father will be upset if he finds her there with him. She runs off without telling him her name. --Poor Leo. Women are always running away and rejecting him, even out here. Don't they realize what a great catch he is? He is a doctor, after all.........
Tiberio tells his daddy he's taking the blame for all the fraudulent dealings at Demian's construction company. Dolores runs in seeing the cops are handcuffing him. She screams that it is Demian who is really to blame. Ti tries to stop her. "Let me do my duty, Mom. Calm down. Everything will be fine." Dolores is as impactada as the rest of us. We all knew Ti was a dopey fool, but this self-sacrifice thing was totally unexpected.
The detectives ask Demian if this is true. Demian tells them all that that is true. Everybody holds their breath. Huh? Demian has his chance, but true to form --and our highest hopes-- he decides to let his sap of a son take the fall. "Tiberio just finished confessing to me that he's to blame for all the business abuses that I've been accused of."
Ingrid warns Miriam that they have no more credit with their European fabric suppliers. Since she hasn't paid the bills they refuse to fill any more orders and they will not be able to handle their customer's orders now. Miriam yells that that was what she was paying her to do! Ingrid complains that she was only able to do so much and the rest was her responsability. Miriam, she argues, was aparently too busy arguing with Karen and Jos to pay attention to her warnings and to the design business. Now Miriam stands to lose everything because the creditors are about to seize it all. "Ay! Damnation!"
Otilia asks Soraya out of the blue if she still wants to see her son. "More than anything in the world!" Otilia asks her if she's had word from him recently. "Not a single call." Otilia has somebody send in a visitor and it is her long lost son and Fabio wannabe --anybody even remember Fabio?-- Jorge who, unexpectedly enters the office and immediately gets on his knees asking Soraya to be forgiven. (A mother's dream, right?)
Yes, somehow Otilia has managed to find Soraya's son, Jorge, who had rejected his momma to this point because of her former job as a lowly cabaret dancer. (Momma's come a long way, baby! From cabaret dancer to personal design assistant for the hottest design studio in Mexico City. Take that, kid!) Soraya looks sternly at him then tells him that his rejection hurt her terribly but that she will forgive him. "A mother always forgives her children," she answers. Otilia leaves them to catch up on things.
Elsa and Candy go back to Candy's place. Candy is determined to help her daughter. She tells her that everybody falls victim to evil. In a one-hanky scene, Elsa finally confesses to Candy that she cannot help herself. She's a worthless tramp. She is addicted and has done all sorts of vile, low and disgusting things to get hold of drugs and hootch, including hootchy-coo with El Mastín. They cry together and she promises her daughter that with the help of God they will fight one day at a time to keep her from falling back into her old bad habits.
Jos tells Miriam she's worried about Gabe finding out she really did "off" El Coyote. He's associating Mariangela's kidnapping with her also. Although she of course denied everything to him, the way he looked at her with mistrust really got her scared this time. She worries that the jig is finally up. She is frustrated that everything she's managed is falling through her fingers now and she's losing control.
Miriam tells her that with this circus that's been going on around them it's no doubt, but they have got to maintain a calm appearance or they will give themselves away and that will definitely be their undoing.
Nic tellsGabe that Ti has taken the fall for his daddy's dastardly deeds. It looks very grim. Gabe admires Demian for having a son who would do this for his father. He asks Nic if he can try to do something for Ti to get him out free and clear of this mess. Nic says he would love to for Dolores' sake, but Ti's case is complicated by the fact he was already a fugitive from the law.
At his jail cell, Dolores tries to talk Ti out of this. She tries to get Tiberio to tell the truth to the authorities and not to sacrifice himself for his crazy, no-good, evil and selfish, abusive father. She reminds him how rotten things were for her when she was in the joint. He admits to her that it is his last opportunity to demonstrate his deep love for his daddy and to inspire some sort of affection.
Dolores tells Ti that Demian is not the admirable man he thinks he is. He's evil. This is a lost cause. The ingrate will remain free while he spends the rest of his life behind bars for nothing. She's been there and knows what she's talking about. Ti, though, has decided to follow it through to the end.
Alone in his office Demian tells himself that he is not going to soften. He didn't ask Tiberio to do this and he won't soften for any of them. If Ti is stupid enough to take the fall then let him.
Everyone eventually follows Dolores and Tiberio to the lock-up. First Nic comes in. He tries to get Ti to tell the truth for the love of his suffering mother. He says they both know he's lying. Nic warns him he has no idea what is waiting for him behind bars if he continues this lie. Ti again refuses and just keeps screaming like stupid Federico did: "I'm guilty! I'm guilty and nobody can make me change my mind!" (Talk about your misplaced loyalties.....)
Next, Gabe is in the jail lobby trying to comfort Dolores. "It's so sad that my brother could permit his son to do this." Pau and JC then arrive to lend her their support during this time of trouble. They bemoan the fact that history is repeating itself only this time it is her son that is going to go to jail, and all because of Demian. Dolores says she doesn't know if she can handle seeing her son imprisoned wrongly like she was.
Elsa goes home and Candy is then all alone. Candy suffers heart pains while asking the Virgencita why this had to happen to Elsita. (Bad move I guess, to question the Virgencita's motives.) Candy is ready to kick the bucket when suddenly Karen appears and walks right on in, uninvited, with a bag of goodies. She asks Candy what is wrong and how can she help. Candy tells her to get her medicine bottle from the bedroom.
Elsa sees her whiskey bottle with a few good swigs still in it and fights the urge to gulp it all down. In fact she takes the bottle and throws it onto the floor. It breaks into pieces.Sylvestre hears the breaking glass and accuses her of drinking again, but she explains what really happened. She actually fought the urge and threw down the bottle, but he doesn't want to believe her.
Sylvestre threatens to send Elsa away to the sanitorium to dry out. She tells him he's right to doubt her, but that she even confessed to her momma, just a bit ago, in fact. So he gripes at her for frightening her sick mother by confessing all the godawful truth. (I thought that was what he just told Elsa a few hours ago that she had to do to get on his good side and to prove to him she was ready for help so he wouldn't commit her. Damn, man, make up your mind already!)
Sylvestre has laid such a guilt trip on Elsa that when he runs out to see about Candy's health, she tries to slit her wrists. Fortunately she doesn't commit that sin, too. (Good one, Sylvestre --not!)
Dolores sees Demian entering the jail lobby and runs over and jumps him. Demian gets to smirk at her, "Get off me you crazy woman!" She starts beating him in front of the whole family and screams at him that he's a petty coward and willing to let his son take the blame for all his misdeeds. "You're crazy! I am not taking the blame for what your son did!"
Syl finds Candy with Karen. She's fine so Karen leaves after telling her that she cannot take the blame for whatever bad things Elsa does. Look at her and her mother and grandma, she says. Sylvestre and Candy agree that with the Virgencita's help they will save Elsa.
Leo at his new office in the boonies lights a candle, and is praying for patients (uh-gain). Nobody is bringing their children in for their free vaccinations. Leo is griping to himself that he has got to find a way to get them to come in when that same mysterious young woman appears at his office door. She tells him she came to apologize for her earlier behavior. They discuss her father's strictness. She thanks him for listening. He gives her an old armband with a picture of the Virgencita on it that was a gift from his mother on his 14th birthday. It is to protect her. She smiles and leaves. He cannot stop making puppy-dog eyes at her.
Pau, Karen and JC all confess they feel very close to Dolores. Karen says she thinks of her more as a mother than her own.
Demian visits Ti at his jail cell. Ti tells him he is doing this as the only way to show him how much he loves Demian, despite the fact he knows he's never loved him because he wasn't Regina's. JC was always his favorite. Demian says he never expected this from Tiberio and always felt Ti did what he did was not out of love or loyalty, but for convenience sake. Demian cannot tell Ti in the end that he loves him. He fights for words to tell Tiberio that at least he will feel some ".....gratitude". The reason is that he cannot love. He has only loved once and it was Regina.
Before Demian leaves he pats Ti on the cheek. "Good boy. --Now, do not to say anything to the police." Ti smiles and tells him despite his daddy never having appreciated him, he will stay quiet and sacrifice to demontrate his love. Ti then smiles through the bars like an expectant puppy.
Dolores remembers she hadn't had a chance to check with the nun about Paulina's birthmother. She hands Pau the name and adress on a card.
Demian aparently turns his back on Ti and walks out. Gabe confronts Demian on his way back. He demands that Demian come clean and stop letting his own flesh and blood rot in jail when everyone knows he's to blame. Every bit of proof pointed to his guilt and not Tiberio's. Demian tells his twin pretty much to go fly a kite. Gabe promises to stand up for Ti with the authorities and Demian warns him not to dare try it or he'll be sorry he did.
Next one in to see Ti is JC. Ti still is taking the fall but JC says there's no reason to since he knows that Demian is lying, because nothing happened at that company that Demian didn't first know about or authorize. He tells his half-brother that although it is painful, their dad will have to pay the consequences. He should be thinking about the suffering and fear his mother is dealing with now. Ti says he appreciates everything but this is his destiny and he has to comply with it.
Miriam and Jos see the headlines about Demian's company in the newspaper. Miriam figures this would be a good time to ally themselves with Demian again since all three of them have been left on the outs with the rest of the extended clan. The three of them have allied themselves on many other occasions and he needs them now as much as they need him.
As Demian attempts to leave the jail lobby Dolores see him and yells again that he's to blame. He tells her that no, it is all her fault. She was the one who gave Nic the remote control device and had him initiate investigations. So, she has nobody but herself to blame. He smirks evilly again and triumphantly walks out the door.
Nic and Gabe come to Dolores to tell her that Ti is being transferred to prison. He sealed his fate when declaring himself guilty. Gabe promises to look for any proof of Demian's guilt. Dolores breaks down in tears and blames herself. She tells them it is all her fault. Demian was right. She had Nic start investigating. Nic tells her that it was his fault. He was the one who started the investigation, not her. Nic will try to ask for a light sentence while appealing his case.
Miriam and Jos meet with Demian to discuss their reasons for alligning themselves against Gabe and Mariangela. Those two are now much stronger with JC's backing as now he's turned his back on Demian. (JC, remember, has become a huge stockholder after inheriting from Regina.) If he doesn't want Gabe and Mariangela to tromp them he has no choice but to join forces with the two fieras. Demian begins to think things through.
Gabe and Mariangela return to the manse to check on the baby. Mariangela says she's going to be sad at leaving the mansion and little LG. She cannot explain it but she has a special tug at her heart with him just as strong as the one she has for her own little boy. Mariangela bends over and checks Luis David right then. She becomes frightened when she realizes the baby is cold as ice. They race to the hospital with him.
Demian goes back to the office and starts burning all the hard copies of files that prove he's to blame for all the dirty dealings in the construction company. "They must blame Tiberio. I have to destroy anything that shows I am to blame." He sets fire to a number of files in a trash can on top of his desk. "Poor Tiberio," he laughs. "How he loves his daddy. How he loves his daddy! Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!" (He better hope the sprinkler system is busted. I wonder if he was smart enough to deqausse all the office's computer drives, too......) Burn, baby, burn!!
Tiberio tells his daddy he's taking the blame for all the fraudulent dealings at Demian's construction company. Dolores runs in seeing the cops are handcuffing him. She screams that it is Demian who is really to blame. Ti tries to stop her. "Let me do my duty, Mom. Calm down. Everything will be fine." Dolores is as impactada as the rest of us. We all knew Ti was a dopey fool, but this self-sacrifice thing was totally unexpected.
The detectives ask Demian if this is true. Demian tells them all that that is true. Everybody holds their breath. Huh? Demian has his chance, but true to form --and our highest hopes-- he decides to let his sap of a son take the fall. "Tiberio just finished confessing to me that he's to blame for all the business abuses that I've been accused of."
Ingrid warns Miriam that they have no more credit with their European fabric suppliers. Since she hasn't paid the bills they refuse to fill any more orders and they will not be able to handle their customer's orders now. Miriam yells that that was what she was paying her to do! Ingrid complains that she was only able to do so much and the rest was her responsability. Miriam, she argues, was aparently too busy arguing with Karen and Jos to pay attention to her warnings and to the design business. Now Miriam stands to lose everything because the creditors are about to seize it all. "Ay! Damnation!"
Otilia asks Soraya out of the blue if she still wants to see her son. "More than anything in the world!" Otilia asks her if she's had word from him recently. "Not a single call." Otilia has somebody send in a visitor and it is her long lost son and Fabio wannabe --anybody even remember Fabio?-- Jorge who, unexpectedly enters the office and immediately gets on his knees asking Soraya to be forgiven. (A mother's dream, right?)
Yes, somehow Otilia has managed to find Soraya's son, Jorge, who had rejected his momma to this point because of her former job as a lowly cabaret dancer. (Momma's come a long way, baby! From cabaret dancer to personal design assistant for the hottest design studio in Mexico City. Take that, kid!) Soraya looks sternly at him then tells him that his rejection hurt her terribly but that she will forgive him. "A mother always forgives her children," she answers. Otilia leaves them to catch up on things.
Elsa and Candy go back to Candy's place. Candy is determined to help her daughter. She tells her that everybody falls victim to evil. In a one-hanky scene, Elsa finally confesses to Candy that she cannot help herself. She's a worthless tramp. She is addicted and has done all sorts of vile, low and disgusting things to get hold of drugs and hootch, including hootchy-coo with El Mastín. They cry together and she promises her daughter that with the help of God they will fight one day at a time to keep her from falling back into her old bad habits.
Jos tells Miriam she's worried about Gabe finding out she really did "off" El Coyote. He's associating Mariangela's kidnapping with her also. Although she of course denied everything to him, the way he looked at her with mistrust really got her scared this time. She worries that the jig is finally up. She is frustrated that everything she's managed is falling through her fingers now and she's losing control.
Miriam tells her that with this circus that's been going on around them it's no doubt, but they have got to maintain a calm appearance or they will give themselves away and that will definitely be their undoing.
Nic tellsGabe that Ti has taken the fall for his daddy's dastardly deeds. It looks very grim. Gabe admires Demian for having a son who would do this for his father. He asks Nic if he can try to do something for Ti to get him out free and clear of this mess. Nic says he would love to for Dolores' sake, but Ti's case is complicated by the fact he was already a fugitive from the law.
At his jail cell, Dolores tries to talk Ti out of this. She tries to get Tiberio to tell the truth to the authorities and not to sacrifice himself for his crazy, no-good, evil and selfish, abusive father. She reminds him how rotten things were for her when she was in the joint. He admits to her that it is his last opportunity to demonstrate his deep love for his daddy and to inspire some sort of affection.
Dolores tells Ti that Demian is not the admirable man he thinks he is. He's evil. This is a lost cause. The ingrate will remain free while he spends the rest of his life behind bars for nothing. She's been there and knows what she's talking about. Ti, though, has decided to follow it through to the end.
Alone in his office Demian tells himself that he is not going to soften. He didn't ask Tiberio to do this and he won't soften for any of them. If Ti is stupid enough to take the fall then let him.
Everyone eventually follows Dolores and Tiberio to the lock-up. First Nic comes in. He tries to get Ti to tell the truth for the love of his suffering mother. He says they both know he's lying. Nic warns him he has no idea what is waiting for him behind bars if he continues this lie. Ti again refuses and just keeps screaming like stupid Federico did: "I'm guilty! I'm guilty and nobody can make me change my mind!" (Talk about your misplaced loyalties.....)
Next, Gabe is in the jail lobby trying to comfort Dolores. "It's so sad that my brother could permit his son to do this." Pau and JC then arrive to lend her their support during this time of trouble. They bemoan the fact that history is repeating itself only this time it is her son that is going to go to jail, and all because of Demian. Dolores says she doesn't know if she can handle seeing her son imprisoned wrongly like she was.
Elsa goes home and Candy is then all alone. Candy suffers heart pains while asking the Virgencita why this had to happen to Elsita. (Bad move I guess, to question the Virgencita's motives.) Candy is ready to kick the bucket when suddenly Karen appears and walks right on in, uninvited, with a bag of goodies. She asks Candy what is wrong and how can she help. Candy tells her to get her medicine bottle from the bedroom.
Elsa sees her whiskey bottle with a few good swigs still in it and fights the urge to gulp it all down. In fact she takes the bottle and throws it onto the floor. It breaks into pieces.Sylvestre hears the breaking glass and accuses her of drinking again, but she explains what really happened. She actually fought the urge and threw down the bottle, but he doesn't want to believe her.
Sylvestre threatens to send Elsa away to the sanitorium to dry out. She tells him he's right to doubt her, but that she even confessed to her momma, just a bit ago, in fact. So he gripes at her for frightening her sick mother by confessing all the godawful truth. (I thought that was what he just told Elsa a few hours ago that she had to do to get on his good side and to prove to him she was ready for help so he wouldn't commit her. Damn, man, make up your mind already!)
Sylvestre has laid such a guilt trip on Elsa that when he runs out to see about Candy's health, she tries to slit her wrists. Fortunately she doesn't commit that sin, too. (Good one, Sylvestre --not!)
Dolores sees Demian entering the jail lobby and runs over and jumps him. Demian gets to smirk at her, "Get off me you crazy woman!" She starts beating him in front of the whole family and screams at him that he's a petty coward and willing to let his son take the blame for all his misdeeds. "You're crazy! I am not taking the blame for what your son did!"
Syl finds Candy with Karen. She's fine so Karen leaves after telling her that she cannot take the blame for whatever bad things Elsa does. Look at her and her mother and grandma, she says. Sylvestre and Candy agree that with the Virgencita's help they will save Elsa.
Leo at his new office in the boonies lights a candle, and is praying for patients (uh-gain). Nobody is bringing their children in for their free vaccinations. Leo is griping to himself that he has got to find a way to get them to come in when that same mysterious young woman appears at his office door. She tells him she came to apologize for her earlier behavior. They discuss her father's strictness. She thanks him for listening. He gives her an old armband with a picture of the Virgencita on it that was a gift from his mother on his 14th birthday. It is to protect her. She smiles and leaves. He cannot stop making puppy-dog eyes at her.
Pau, Karen and JC all confess they feel very close to Dolores. Karen says she thinks of her more as a mother than her own.
Demian visits Ti at his jail cell. Ti tells him he is doing this as the only way to show him how much he loves Demian, despite the fact he knows he's never loved him because he wasn't Regina's. JC was always his favorite. Demian says he never expected this from Tiberio and always felt Ti did what he did was not out of love or loyalty, but for convenience sake. Demian cannot tell Ti in the end that he loves him. He fights for words to tell Tiberio that at least he will feel some ".....gratitude". The reason is that he cannot love. He has only loved once and it was Regina.
Before Demian leaves he pats Ti on the cheek. "Good boy. --Now, do not to say anything to the police." Ti smiles and tells him despite his daddy never having appreciated him, he will stay quiet and sacrifice to demontrate his love. Ti then smiles through the bars like an expectant puppy.
Dolores remembers she hadn't had a chance to check with the nun about Paulina's birthmother. She hands Pau the name and adress on a card.
Demian aparently turns his back on Ti and walks out. Gabe confronts Demian on his way back. He demands that Demian come clean and stop letting his own flesh and blood rot in jail when everyone knows he's to blame. Every bit of proof pointed to his guilt and not Tiberio's. Demian tells his twin pretty much to go fly a kite. Gabe promises to stand up for Ti with the authorities and Demian warns him not to dare try it or he'll be sorry he did.
Next one in to see Ti is JC. Ti still is taking the fall but JC says there's no reason to since he knows that Demian is lying, because nothing happened at that company that Demian didn't first know about or authorize. He tells his half-brother that although it is painful, their dad will have to pay the consequences. He should be thinking about the suffering and fear his mother is dealing with now. Ti says he appreciates everything but this is his destiny and he has to comply with it.
Miriam and Jos see the headlines about Demian's company in the newspaper. Miriam figures this would be a good time to ally themselves with Demian again since all three of them have been left on the outs with the rest of the extended clan. The three of them have allied themselves on many other occasions and he needs them now as much as they need him.
As Demian attempts to leave the jail lobby Dolores see him and yells again that he's to blame. He tells her that no, it is all her fault. She was the one who gave Nic the remote control device and had him initiate investigations. So, she has nobody but herself to blame. He smirks evilly again and triumphantly walks out the door.
Nic and Gabe come to Dolores to tell her that Ti is being transferred to prison. He sealed his fate when declaring himself guilty. Gabe promises to look for any proof of Demian's guilt. Dolores breaks down in tears and blames herself. She tells them it is all her fault. Demian was right. She had Nic start investigating. Nic tells her that it was his fault. He was the one who started the investigation, not her. Nic will try to ask for a light sentence while appealing his case.
Miriam and Jos meet with Demian to discuss their reasons for alligning themselves against Gabe and Mariangela. Those two are now much stronger with JC's backing as now he's turned his back on Demian. (JC, remember, has become a huge stockholder after inheriting from Regina.) If he doesn't want Gabe and Mariangela to tromp them he has no choice but to join forces with the two fieras. Demian begins to think things through.
Gabe and Mariangela return to the manse to check on the baby. Mariangela says she's going to be sad at leaving the mansion and little LG. She cannot explain it but she has a special tug at her heart with him just as strong as the one she has for her own little boy. Mariangela bends over and checks Luis David right then. She becomes frightened when she realizes the baby is cold as ice. They race to the hospital with him.
Demian goes back to the office and starts burning all the hard copies of files that prove he's to blame for all the dirty dealings in the construction company. "They must blame Tiberio. I have to destroy anything that shows I am to blame." He sets fire to a number of files in a trash can on top of his desk. "Poor Tiberio," he laughs. "How he loves his daddy. How he loves his daddy! Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!" (He better hope the sprinkler system is busted. I wonder if he was smart enough to deqausse all the office's computer drives, too......) Burn, baby, burn!!
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thanks so much for the recap. I don't understand
how they'll wrap everything up in one week.
I've enjoyed this story because it is about
the fight of good and evil. I can't wait for the
evil ones to destroy themselves.
how they'll wrap everything up in one week.
I've enjoyed this story because it is about
the fight of good and evil. I can't wait for the
evil ones to destroy themselves.
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 2:17:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 2:17:00 PM EDT
The beautiful young woman crying in the woods is one of my favorite Mexican actresses, Iran Castillo. She deserves her own show. I’m tired of seeing her as a supporting character is telenovelas. By the way, I love your blog. Keep up the good work.
Does anyone know the name of the beautiful song that is played at the opening of the show,when the credits roll? I think the singer is Marcus Antonio Solis.
Also, just a general question. My girlfriend and I are new to novelas. We are watching La Fea Mas Bella and I watch Mundo occasionally because it comes right after LFMB. I know LFMB is different because of the comedy. But, are all novelas like Mundo, because Mundo seems really bad to me. I just can't seem to relate to any of these wacky people. I know LFMB has it's own set of wacky characters, but it just seems so different to me
thanks, Miranda
Also, just a general question. My girlfriend and I are new to novelas. We are watching La Fea Mas Bella and I watch Mundo occasionally because it comes right after LFMB. I know LFMB is different because of the comedy. But, are all novelas like Mundo, because Mundo seems really bad to me. I just can't seem to relate to any of these wacky people. I know LFMB has it's own set of wacky characters, but it just seems so different to me
thanks, Miranda
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
Miranda: The song is definitely sung by Marcus Antonio Solis. It is called "Antes de Que Te Vayas" and is really a nice one, despite the horrible circus of a storyline it is connected with. My hubby got me the CD for Xmas and I really like it.
Others may tell you differently, but not all telenovelas are this dopey. What saves this butchered monstrosity are the fine actors. They have made some really imaginitive saves with some poorly conceived characters and/or scripting. Take Helena Rojo and Margarita Isabel for example.
Some novelas have been wonderful and truly well written, acted, and directed with gorgeous sets and costuming. --I've only been able to get Univision for a few years. My favorites so far are La Otra, El Manantial, Amarte es Mi Pecado, Alborada and Amor Real. I have seen ten times that number.
Sometimes you get lucky, but most times you don't. Above all, I try to remember that this is melodrama taken to a high art that I believe even Snidely Whiplash and Company would be very satisfied with. Nobody, but absolutely nobody, does it better than the Latins.
Others may tell you differently, but not all telenovelas are this dopey. What saves this butchered monstrosity are the fine actors. They have made some really imaginitive saves with some poorly conceived characters and/or scripting. Take Helena Rojo and Margarita Isabel for example.
Some novelas have been wonderful and truly well written, acted, and directed with gorgeous sets and costuming. --I've only been able to get Univision for a few years. My favorites so far are La Otra, El Manantial, Amarte es Mi Pecado, Alborada and Amor Real. I have seen ten times that number.
Sometimes you get lucky, but most times you don't. Above all, I try to remember that this is melodrama taken to a high art that I believe even Snidely Whiplash and Company would be very satisfied with. Nobody, but absolutely nobody, does it better than the Latins.
To anonymous and marius: thanks for joining us! You're right, this is great good vs. evil stuff. Maybe you remember Iran Castillo was in Amar Otra Vez and I believe she was the lead in that novela. It was a really decent one, and my first from 3 or 4 years ago. I am waiting to see her in another good leading roll myself. :>)
Great recap..in true TeleNovela form...end stage writing in of new characters and a big rush to wrap everything up...I don't care what anyone says Leo+girl...not happening. Jorge, whom I had completely forgotten about comes home to mommy...
About TeleNovela...yes some are worse than others..My all time favorite is "to catch a millionaire" or something like that. It was from Peru, and they made fun of Mexican TeleNovelas all the way thru it. It was much more realistic (lots of comedy), no murder and best of all an end that actually made sense. One of the worse things that happens to these things is they get extended to make more money and side story line get thrown in & the writing just seems to get worse. LFMB was extended from July to October to Dec to the end of Feb in Mexico, so what was supposed to be like 6 months ended up being 13 months...lots of filler.
definitely fillers in la fea mas bella. Very frustrating. How come the Mundo soap doesn't get much comments like La fea mas bella? El mundo is so wicked. I would think it would get alot of reactions.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 11:08:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 11:08:00 PM EDT
Jardinera -Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Referring to Mundo as a "butchered monstrosity" really hit the nail on the head. I will be looking forward to watching more novelas as a way to improve my spanish. Hopefully one will come along that will grab me the way that LFMB does. I think the characters in it are easier to relate to than Mundo and thats why LFMB gets more comments than Mundo. Also the love story between Fern and Lety is so intense.
Thanks again - Miranda
P.S. beckster - when I read your comments at work, my co-workers think I'm crazy. I just can't control my laughter and I can't even control myself enough to read it to them. thanks
Thanks again - Miranda
P.S. beckster - when I read your comments at work, my co-workers think I'm crazy. I just can't control my laughter and I can't even control myself enough to read it to them. thanks
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:15:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:15:00 AM EDT
I'm actually liking Mundo in its dying capitulos. Jos and Miriam are great together, they have a super rhythm, it's like two musicians playing together. Gabe/Demian is good enough that I actually forget he's the same guy. I like doofus Christobal, I mean Leonardo, and I'm glad he's getting the girl. I couldn't care less about Pau and JC, sorry. They're just empty calories, pretty faces with no affect (or nobody cares to write them anything worthwhile).
Yeah, it's like now that JC is out of peril, he and Paulina are just killing time till the end of the novela. Zzzzz!
I liked Karen's tranformation and I'm wondering if either Jos or Mir will experience some sort of last-minute redemption as well. Sort of like that time when Darth Vader came to his senses and stuffed the Emperor down the whatchamacallit to save Luke's life during Return of the Jedi.
On the other hand, if someone wants to take the two of them to the Island of the Dolls, or run them over with a car, that's cool too.
I liked Karen's tranformation and I'm wondering if either Jos or Mir will experience some sort of last-minute redemption as well. Sort of like that time when Darth Vader came to his senses and stuffed the Emperor down the whatchamacallit to save Luke's life during Return of the Jedi.
On the other hand, if someone wants to take the two of them to the Island of the Dolls, or run them over with a car, that's cool too.
I am ready to get off this merry-go-round and move on to the next novela. I don't care what happens to any of these people except that I want Leo to end up with his old love Iran Castillo [Cristobal and Catalina reunited...Shout out to Peaches and Herb]. Why would they introduce her so randomly and right at the very end if they didn't plan to have her end up with Leo?~~~~Susanlynn
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 4:51:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 4:51:00 PM EDT
I think the mujer was put in at the end, to make leo happy. Cause I am told everything ends happy in the end. I asked before why this program doesn't get many comments. I can see now. My feeling is that the only way it can turn out right, is if the baby dies, but while taking care of him, they need Ma's blood and they find out that ma' blood is not the same as the baby's. Thats number one. The baby dies, she reclaims the other one. Her and gabriel are happy. Jos goes to prison but winds up in state hospital, because she is now having mental symptoms. before that it was sociopathic, now the paranoia, the nutsy eye gazes, etc. In real life, the other son who was raised by jos all this time and done poorly, would have emotinal problems in the future, due to abandonmet (mom goes away suddenly to prison). The other, because he was neglected emotionally for x amount of time. If the baby lives, jos goes to jail forever and ma gets to raise both, how do you raise him withut telling him you are the mom and what do you tell the other who thinks you have been the mom. That kid now will have issues, cause he loved her and was with her all this time and finds out she is not is mom and his mom is in prison. DUH. Any thoughts,.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:02:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:02:00 PM EDT
I didn't see the last episode, but Iran is of course going to turn out to be the daughter of the nasty old guy in the cowboy hat. I think Gabe and MA will end up with both babies and they are young enough (the babies) not to remember BSC Jos. Demian will go down in flames. Jos will go out a window or something. Dunno about Miriam, could they possibly rehabilitate her? She showed that eency bit of remorse.
I just realized after hearing a comment about fillers, that this program does not have many at all, whereas la fea is all the time; however, el mundo I think is only running the regular amount of time 6 mos???? where la fea is a year. So they need fillers. Also el munda has about 10 minutes or more between commercials, la fea it is under 10 minutes. I watch the spnish soaps also to be able to learn spnish. I h ave a tutor, I have all spanish songs, I have a computer Program and I watch mundo and la fea each night and I still only pic of words here and there. Howeve, I don't do bad with my tutor. I think it is because there is music in the background, which interfers with me recognizing words. Any thoughts from anyone who is english and trying to learn the spanish. I thought the soaps would be good to learn from, because they are always sad and crying and therefore would be talking slow; however, this does not seem to be the case ROTF
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:07:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 9:07:00 PM EDT
Watching these is one of the best ways to learn to understand spoken Spanish. The best tip ever given to me by my teacher was so simple I wondered why I never thought of it:
Turn on your Closed Captioning.
Also record the show and go back to review what you couldn't understand. Those words can then be looked up in your dictionary.
People don't always realize that the novela captions are in Spanish and you can see what they're saying and eventually associate the spoken words with the written ones. It doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen. There is a 3-4 second delay but you get used to that. Now, Uni has begun to put captions even on its news shows and Despierta America, as well as with their reality/Jerry Springer type programs.
I hope that helps?
Turn on your Closed Captioning.
Also record the show and go back to review what you couldn't understand. Those words can then be looked up in your dictionary.
People don't always realize that the novela captions are in Spanish and you can see what they're saying and eventually associate the spoken words with the written ones. It doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen. There is a 3-4 second delay but you get used to that. Now, Uni has begun to put captions even on its news shows and Despierta America, as well as with their reality/Jerry Springer type programs.
I hope that helps?
Jardinera. That helps. I had used the captions in the past but had problems that way. I have found on the few I taped, that after listening to the recaps, I went back to the taped version and picked up a lot more, because I was expecting certain words or expecting a certain topic. For instance I was confused over who belonged to who (their relationship to others), becasueI only watch mundo for short periods. When I knew who they were and what they were up to, I was able to follow one of their evening shows a wee bit better. I am more on La fea and I get so upset when there is something intense and I can't make it out (ie. When lety and aldo fought while at the motel and his dramatic look, when she made a snide remark abou him and his wife.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 19, 2007 at 8:24:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 19, 2007 at 8:24:00 AM EDT
I really like Iran too. She did have a lead in a novela years ago where she was a teenager being raised by a traveling circus, she had a funky name that I can never remember. When Alborada was ending and they were showing the "coming soon" teaser commercials for La Fea, I thought Lety was being played by Iran... her resemblence to Angelica Vale striking.
Hello all! I am having mixed feelings about Mundo ending. It has been both entertaining and aggravating. I just started watching telenovelas on Univision about two years ago and "Rubi" has been one of my favorites so far. Regarding the post about "really bad" telenovelas, I think the badness is just part of the experience. Some of the plot lines are so ridiculous, it's part of the fun to see how talented actors handle the challenge set before them. A big thank you to everyone for the recaps.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 19, 2007 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 19, 2007 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
I've learned some Spanish by watching telenovelas, I think it's a great way to start. Since the plot lines are predictable and the commercials are similar to the English ones, it's easier to figure out what's happening.
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