Thursday, April 05, 2007

Duelo de Pasiones - Wed April 4 - Tell Us What Happened

I wasn't able to watch and do a recap last night. Maybe you viewers can help out? Please tell us what happened if you saw the show. Thank you everyone!

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Lynn, I had to smile when I saw this....not because you were unable to watch, but because my first thought was, "q.v. Monday, Tuesday, or in fact any day so far since January 15 and you'll have a good idea of what Wednesday, April 4 was like."

Well, I was disgusted that Soledad is now well and truly locked into the barn, when she has had days and days with an open trapdoor to escape and has actually been out several time. Her cluelessness is truly astounding.

I was hopeful because Thelma, for the very first time, may be realizing that her goose is cooked because way too many people have the information about the baby's true parentage. Plus, Castulo is a meaner dude than she herself is. That should give her pause!

I am tired of the we're going to Puebla/the trip's off scenario. I am tired of Orlando scheming.

We got a glimpse (okay, a pretty thorough glimpse) of Alfonsina enjoying the "good old times" with Alvaro. This gave insight into why she wants to destroy Soledad. Also, I remembered while they were having some afternoon delight that when Alfonsina was in Soledad's bedroom early on in the series, right after she gave Don Loco "the Letter," she said, "one day, this will all be mine as it should have been." I wondered at the time what the heck that was about. Now it's much clearer.

But, the final ending impactada (Flor) learning that the baby is not Emilio's but Gaspar's, straight from Gaspar's own mouth, was a very good thing, IMO.

To me, that sums it up.

Jeanne
 

I can never understand much of the dialogue, but I did watch, so let me add a few things. Adela tried to lift the keys off a sleeping Sergio , but he woke up and caught her. She talked to Soledad through the shutters. Soledad is truly a hopeless case. How many times has she escaped only to go back???..dumbass. Castulo came into Thelma's room and threatened her . I think he told her that he didn't want her to leave SE with Emiliooo and Angel. Thelma , I think, told Emiliooo that she didn't feel up to making the trip to the city [after begging for just that all these weeks] and Auntie told him not to worry because she would stay with Thelma. Castulo had a gun tucked into the waistband of his jeans in the back ...I was waiting for it to go off. He also paid a little visit to Gaspar at the cave, and they talked, but I have no idea what they were talking about. After Alfonsina had some afternoon delight with DonLoco,he lay exhausted on the bed, and she sped right over to the new not-improved Hugo [the old Gaspar] and had more of the same. I have a feeling that DonLoco and Gaspar together do not measure up to the original Hugo. Thems the breaks, Alfonsina. Beggars are not chosers. I was thinking what a bummer it must be for the actress to have to make out with Gaspar now. Angel , by the way, was wearing another interesting outfit--he had the everpresent scarf wrapped around his neck and an striped Indian blanket [or Native American blanket to be PC] wrapped around his shoulders. He looked like a commercial for a cold and flu medicine. Santos's HotMama had words with Max, and he told he was Rosita's baby daddy. She confronted Santos with this bit of news. As my students would say to conclude their speeches, ''That's it.'' That is all I can remember. I watched Rodrigooo in ''Desti'' afterwards, and he pretty much made me forget everything. ~~~Susanlynn, still not bilingual
 

Alina/ Flor is still pouting over Emilio, she seeks him out to talk and he pretty much tells her that there is nothing between them anymore, he then leaves her there crying and goes upstairs where he hits the table and begins to cry. Orlando later talks to him and he tells him about his talk with Alina.
Luba once again visits Marcario she wants Thelma gone. Did not see all of this part but when I came back to the tv he was going to do some curse so if anyone knows exactly what happened please tell me
New Hugo is great. I like him better. He stares at a pic of Don Loco and he is mad because obviously Alfonsina is his not Don Locos
Yes Alfonsina is back and she still wants Don Loco, as soon as she sees him she hikes up her dress a little. I do not want to talk about her because well I do not like her.
Castulo threatned Thelma and now Thelma is staying she walks down the stairs and pretnds to almost faint and her aunt says she will take care of Thelma while Emilio is gone.
Thelma is talking with Orlando and she is not going to make life easy for Flor. Now that Emilio and Angel will not be around to protect her. Orlando still thinks he is going to have her
Noone has told Alina/Flor that she is spoken for now by Angel, but Emilio does remind Orlando in a sense.
Thelma decides that after talking with Adela who has told her about Thelma meeting Gasper and Luba, that Gasper must know the secret that Luba will not tell her.
She runs off to find Gasper, he tells her after a few minutes, that the baby is his. Impactado, not me I knew he would. Thats about all.
Well now Alina knows the truth,but she will not make it back in time before Emilio leaves to tell him. That is what I think will happen. Atleast things are happening, I feel sorry for what will happen while Emilio is away though. I was thinking that maybe Angel will not like leaving her there with Thelma and suggest she come along. It does not look that way though. Emilio is dumb to leave her there with Thelma IMO. I can only imagine what will happen when they leave we know that noone will protect her not even Maximo. Back at square one sorta.
I also wanted to add that DL and Hugo were just riding along on their horses talking and observing the workers/slaves,when I thought I wish a very deadly poisonous snake would climb up and bite him, then I thought if he dies he will not get to suffer when he finds out the truth and I would rather see that.
Also I hope does not put up with Thelmas crap anymore ut hey we know she will probably coward to Thelma. I hate that. They need to give her a backbone. I hope with this new info she develops one, she is gonna need it. For the first time in a while I actually am really looking forward to tonights episode. I know maybe I am getting a little bit of the sesid, looks like Alina might be finding the cure to hers. YAYY!!
 

Sasanlynn I just read your post and seen some things I forgot like about Soledad and Adela and the keys and I also reffered to the lady talking with Flor as Adela, I seemed to have forgot he name though?? Anyway I also forgot the part about Carmen and Maximo where she begged him to leave Santos alone and told him he was going to stay and was expecting a baby with Rosita,whom he was going to marry. Maximo laughing tells her that the baby Rosita is carrying is his not Santos. He did not tell here he raped her. Well we know he did not. She confronts Santos and I think tells him he cannot marry Rosita. She than walks in on Rosita who is sweeping the floor and says she knows the baby is Maximos. Thats about all that happened with that one.
I agree I get caught up with sexy Rod also. I will say this, Has anyone noticed Maximos eyes they are beautiful. He could be handsome but his persona ruined it for me and the mustache. Emilio is sexy but boring puts me to sleep not like Rod. If only Emilio could smile and I loved him in the beginning, now he is a one look kind of man...somber. Come on Emilio show us some sex appeal, take a shirt off something...lol
Anyways thanks for reminding me about Soledad and Santos. Still waiting on Emilio to smile and maybe take his shirt off...
Maybe I should be careful what I wish for eh..
 

i gotta say that these viewer comment recaps are good, better than the actual show and it's crazy because i don't even watch it, umm enough to catch anything worthwhile anyway.

I didn't watch it but I already know most of what has happened.

Emilioooo stood there with his one expression. Orlando plotted to get Alina. Angel coughed. Thelma hissed like the viper that she is. Gaspar was tontito. Don Loco was loco and Don Max was a creep. The end.
 

Your right Mari, but I did see something diffrent in DL he was able to be around another woman without seeing Soledad and flipping out. I think he even boinked her. Thats something.
 

As Tammie said, the Alina-Emilio plotline consisted of Emilio finally telling her (after the previous day telling her that she would be getting the Valtierra last name) that he was leaving and there would be nothing to hope for coming from him. It was interesting that Alina didn't really cry much after that meeting but Emilio did, tossed his cap around almost pounded a table in the hallway. Thelma was otherwise occupied with Castulo's blackmail session.

Castulo also later went to double check on Gaspar's contention that Thelma was carrying his baby. At first Gaspar denies having said it (because of the promise he made Thelma) but after some prodding, he admits it. Poor clueless Gaspar begs Castulo not to tell anyone.

Alina won't let go of the secret either. She goes to Gaspar and pries the secret from him and we haven't yet seen the result of that. Gaspar spent most of the episode carving little wooden animals.

Orlando, who is turning into a creepy rapist like Castulo is clearly getting more and more wound up about getting Alina in the sack. When Thelma tells him she'll fix it so that it happens, Orlando is all hyper about wanting to know all the details. Even Emilio can see that Orlando is hot for Alina now and makes a speech that she's destined for his brother and he is counting on him "to respect her" while he's gone. They even shake hands on it. LIAR!

Luba and Macario's meeting results in Macario stepping up the curse on Thelma. She brings him some special potion in a bottle which he vaporizes over a flame. At first I thought this whole plotline was dumb since the curse is only that Thelma leave (and be mentally tortured until she does). Thelma was leaving, so big deal. But now Thelma is NOT leaving due to Castulo's blackmail. Instead Emilio is leaving, which means that Thelma will be unprotected, not just Alina. And she won't be able to leave by herself while two witches are cursing her UNTIL she leaves. That oughtta be good!

This whole Loco-Alfonsina-Hugo triangle looks really promising. Alfonsina and Hugo are up to something. They are plotting to either kill or control Don Loco, using Alfonsina as bait. We got an inkling of that even before with old Hugo but now the plan seems to be "en camino." The actress who plays Alfonsina is really good at playing a sexpot. When DL comes riding up, she's squatting on the ground and literally spreads her legs and lifts her skirts for him. Hugo isn't too pleased but clearly Alfonsina has talked him into this plot whatever it is. New Hugo isn't as handsome as old Hugo but he's more scheming which works better for this new development. We get the idea that Alfonsina is not attracted to him because of his looks, but because of the power he has. She seems pretty comfortable using sex as a weapon to control her environment and we get the sense that if she does get her way, it will be her on top (so to speak) and not Hugo. Finally we get a woman who isn't a victim, even if she is a spider. She makes Thelma look like a rank amateur in the scheming department.

As others have said, not much movement on Soledad, dashed hopes for escaping. Elias is now wondering what happened to her and will have to make a decision about springing her or just waiting. Maybe he will stop being so passive after Tuesday night's kiss.

No movement on the Malena/Mariana/Dr. Love storyline except that Mariana is now trying to talk but only making little noises.
 

Wow Everyone! Great comments! Thank you. I feel like I saw the show!
 

I've beeb toying with the idea Sylvia suggested here of Ferro and me replacing the show's writers. So, I'm just throwing out some thoughts. First, Angel becomes a billionaire when he and his wife....HotNurseSusi... start up their own Internet import/export business selling scarves from around the world and tight ,white nurses' uniforms ...it's called ''Scarves and TightWhiteNurses'Uniforms R Us.'' Castulo and Sergio become actors who star in a new telenovela ''Brokeback Hidden Mountain.'' Orlando [wearing his army-engineer uniform], Marcario [in his Indian garb ], and Rosito's father in his big sombrero] combine to form ''Gente de Aldea'' a Mexican takeoff of the Village People. Auntie and Malena team up to create their own business called ''Pizazz'' making clothes for transvestites, female impersonators , and Cher's new farewell tour. Alina and Thelma become best friends and join a convent because ''the world is too much with them.'' [see footnote] Rosita marries Emiliooo...I have no idea why. Luba works her magic on Don Loco ,and he gives the haciendo to her and Don Maximo who has married Luba after a particularly potent and violent spell cast by Luba and Macario before in went out on tour with Orlando and Braulio. Then, Don Loco dives into the whirlpool...end scene...well, SOMEONE had to end up in that freaking whirlpool now, didn't they??? Soledad remains in the barn forever and ever amen ...waiting for just the right moment to escape..everyday packing and unpacking her American Tourister luggage. Elias , by this time, has FINALLY given up all hope of ever having Soledad and moves to Canada permanently with Alfonsina, leaving Hugo, Vera, Jaime to run the sugarcane plantation. Adela moves to Nueva York and opens her own upscale , trendy hair salon on Fifth Avenue called ''Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow,''So, what do you think??...any suggestions?? Now's the time to let Ferro and me know how you fans want this show to end.~~~Susanlynn, exhausted after all that creativity
 

Oh.My.God.---I forgot Gaspar!!! He, Nora, Gasparito, and FunkyDonkeyTonkey move into the haciendo at SE with Abuela Luba and a reformed and decent [read that as lobotimized] Don Maximo,,,Gaspar becomes a world famous celebrity in the art world as an idiot savant producing intricate and beautiful carved pieces ....and they live HAPPILY EVER AFTER!!!! THE END.
 

susanlynn, I am at work at my cubby trying very hard to bite my tongue. THAT WAS GREAT, PUBLISH IT, IT'S A WRAP!
 

BUT wait...there's more..I forgot Coral...she marries Granillo...turns out he is not gay after all...just sensitive and artistic. He joins a gym, loses 100 pounds on Trimspa, and becomes their spokesmodel . He and Coral win ''Bailando por la boda mis su seunos'' , buy Edelmira's place, and hire Ema Pulida and the other judges as dancers.~~~Susanlynn, late for work and wondering if she forget anyone else????
 

susanlynn - what about poor Mariana? Can't you make her walk and talk again? Please!

Santos and Rosita ?? Not to be mean, but what about a pharmacy dispensing the morning after pill?
Or taco/juice stand with self defense classes for women?
 

I LOVE ALL YOU READERS! OMG you are all completely fabulous! This group recap thingie was an incredible success. I'm laughing hilariously here at work and having to explain myself to others and I don't even care..."Leave me alone I'm reading telenovela recaps, bug me later willya?" I cannot add one thing to what y'all have already said.

Lynn, this was a brilliant idea. Way to go. You're such a clever girl.

I'm with Tammie, the new Hugo isn't as hot as the old Hugo but we can tell in one second that he is evil, devious, and a much better match for Don Loco than the old Hugo. Good swap. And I'm glad Alphonsina is back. Agreed, Thelma is a rank amateur compared to her. Good recollection from Schoolmarm. Jeanne, I'll bet you've got eyes in the back of your head, too, eh?

And Susanlynn...what can I say? Hiring you as the new writer was our most brilliant move ever. Somebody give that girl a raise, a bonus, and casting calls with Fernando, Rodrigo and Zorro!

(I just read Anya's comment and great idea for Santos and Rosita and yes, we've got to think of something decent for poor Mariana. Unfortunately I have to do some work now. Later...)
 

When Don Loco finds out the truth. Soledad decides to tie him up and make him watch her really get it on with another man, over and over. Alina inherits the plantation since DL is in a mental hospital, and Thelma works for Alina on the plantation, and lives in Lubas old cave. She spends her days crying for the newly rich Gasper who has taken her child to raise with Nora. Emilio begging forgiveness of Alina...hmm I do not know what Emilio should do??
Let's really shake it up... change of venue, after Emilio leaves for the city Alina is distraugt, she writes Emilio a letter and tells him everything, only he writes back telling her he knows she is upset but Thelma would never do anything with Gaspar. She cries and cries, some time passes and Maximo upon discovering Santos is really his son and the mean things he did to his own son decides to turn over a new leaf. He sets out to prove his innocence and falls in love with Alina. Alina feels there is nothing left for her and Emilio and took part in watching Maximo change likes him too. Emilio gets word that his Uncle is marrying and returns with Angel who is now engaged to SNS. He asks who is the woman who stole his heart and noone will tell. He laughs saying it must be someone new in town. SA is furious and says she is too old and now has no chance for happiness. Emilio shows up for his tios wedding to Alina. Muy IMPACTADO. Alina says he never believed her and Maximo did and he left her there with him and they fell in love. Orlando swears off woman and is seen in the bordello looking for Granillo, ay papi. Emilio swears revenge on Maximo as he rides off on his stallion.
 

I just wanted to add he rides off on his stallion without his shirt on, I did not invest my time in this novella to get nothing lol..I atleast want too see MR. one expression with no shirt riding his horse..
 

Awesome ideas from everyone!
Susanlynn, in your first post (comment #2) you wrote 'Gaspar' a bunch of times when I think you meant 'Gasca', referring to the new Hugo. Right? I just want to make sure I understand. It didn't make sense for Alfonsina to be making out with Gaspar, though Gaspar would enjoy it for a minute before whining about Thelma again.
 

Ferro--You are right, sir. Alfonsina , that harlot, was making out with contestant #2--Gasca/Hugo...not Gaspar. I guess Gaspar has been in my head more than I would like to admit. I am getting very mixed up between ''Duelo'', ''Alborada'' [Gasca], and the ongoing telenovela that is running in my mind.~~~Susanlynn, exhausted after listening to bad group speeches on global warming and vegetarianism for an hour and a half...Auxilio Your turn to write the ending , Ferro
 

I am trying to remember. There is a novel by a famous Latin American novelist, Garcia Marquez maybe? Which is about a telenovela writer who has a nervous breakdown and starts mixing characters from one of his novelas into another one and starts making all kinds of crazy things happen. I read it a million years ago. Anybody know this book??!!
 

Well, I'm glad the secret is out about Gaspar and Thelma. I'm sure this will lead to a flurry of action right up until my episode starts on Friday, then we'll return to nothing happening for a month again. Groan.
 

Margaret~~~I di not know the novel that you are referring to, but I think that this may be happening to me in real life.~~~Susanlynn, watching too many of these shows
 

Sylvia--

"Good recollection from Schoolmarm. Jeanne, I'll bet you've got eyes in the back of your head, too, eh?" You betcha! Ask any deaf kid how much sign language I can read at 100 feet. They shudder when they see me coming across the school yard, and I see "whispers" with my name sign prominent, literally from 100 feet or more. It's so much fun....

Jeanne ;-)
 

I think Mariana will become famous on YouTube bugging her eyes out and will appear on the Today show and be interviewed by a sympathetic Ann Curry. Alina will get an advertising gig weeping with the ugly face to sell onions.

Shelly (back from a mental health break after Dr. Love put his clown nose on the kid's casket).
 

It's really fun to read what everybody thinks was important, interesting, ridiculous about this episode.

I just finished reading a book called The Historian where one of the main characters always wore a scarf around her neck because she was bitten by a vampire. Maybe that's Angel's health problem. A vampire subplot could certainly extend this novela another 70 episodes!
 

Oh, Abby! ROTFL!

Jeanne
 

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