Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Fuego, Monday 4/28 (#1): Dough in the Blood

Before the opening credits is a lengthy preview of the series. It's already summarized here.

We're someplace with breathtaking waterfalls and foliage. A very young woman (LIBIA) frolics in the water with a much older man (BERNARDO), while a pair of cockatiels (Statler and Waldorf) and another tropical bird try not to look. The couple in the water seem to have been together for a while. They snuggle and declare their love to one another.

Meanwhile, at the REYES BROTHERS BAKERY, a big man (JUAN) is kneading some dough. When he's finished, he wipes his sweaty face with the back of his hand. In what looks like a different room (I hope so, for sanitation reasons), he washes his 'do-rag in a bucket, splashes water all over himself, and shakes himself off like a dog, with sweaty water flying everywhere. Then, smiling, he pours the whole bucket over his face.

Juan's brother FRANCO is trying to read a book when OSCAR (easy to remember - he's the grouchy brother) is trying to say something about their sister Libia. Oscar impatiently grabs Franco by the ankles and drags him off the bed to get him to pay attention. Franco scoffs and thinks Oscar is full of baloney as usual, but Oscar insists that their sister is seeing someone and he's afraid she'll do something foolish - if she hasn't already.

Now Libia and Bernardo are naked in a haystack someplace. From the contented looks on their faces, it appears that they found the needle they were looking for.

Juan is taking some yummy-looking buns out of the oven. No pun intended. Even though they're apparently too hot to hold, he takes a cautious bite. "¡Delicioso!", he exclaims approvingly.

At the ELIZONDO HACIENDA, SOFÍA is eating one of the very same buns and enjoying it as much as Juan. "¡Delicioso!", she exclaims approvingly as she sits at the table with her sisters, JIMENA and SARITA, and her grandfather, AGUSTÍN. Grandfather takes the basket of goodies and jokingly scolds that no one will want a bunch of fat shut-ins (?).

Sofía's husband FERNANDO comes in and says that even though his wife is fat (this is Adela Noriega, just in case anyone's curious as to what this dirtbag considers fat), he still loves her just as much as ever. An uncomfortable silence falls over the group as he crouches on the floor next to her chair and pulls her hand to his mouth to take a bite out of the bun. EVA, the housekeeper, frowns. Sofi looks nauseous as he lets go of her hand.

Here is a character in desperate need of a nickname, because I think it will pain all of us to refer to this man as "Fernando."

Juan is kneading like crazy again, grunting and grimacing like a man possessed as he works his next project. There's a photo of a three-tier cake with pink and white frosting on the table. He tells his brothers, who have just entered the room, that he's going to prepare a giant cake for their sister's birthday. He looks up and notices his brothers' grim faces. Franco starts to say something about Libia, but chickens out and makes Oscar do it. "You should know that Libia has a lover!" Oscar declares. Juan is deeply offended that Oscar would say such a thing about their innocent sister. Franco steps in and tells Juan to listen. Juan says he'll forgive Oscar for saying that, but just this once.

Still in the haystack, Libia tells Bernardo she doesn't want to deceive her brothers. He tells her not to be afraid or have doubts. Whatever happens, she must never distrust him.

On the hacienda lawn, servants are setting up for a big party. Inside the house, Jimena is complaining to her sisters, grandfather and Eva that she's not a homebody - at least not on purpose! It's just that their mother keeps them locked up in that place and there's a shortage of men! (She spins her grandfather around and around in his wheelchair, until he complains that he's dizzy.) Sarita defends their mother, saying she's just trying to protect them. Jimena says they can't even stick their noses out into the street. "Nor anything else!" Grampa adds, laughing. Sofi starts to say something in Jimena's defense, but Grampa tells them not to be silly - there's a big party tonight, and they should get ready. He starts teasing them that they should sneak out in disguises, or something - it doesn't matter, because their mother, GABRIELA, appears at the top of the stairs. Grampa warns them to hush. Another uncomfortable silence settles over the group like a black rubber sheet as Gabriela scowls at them.

Juan puts another batch of yummybuns in the oven. Oscar tries again to tell Juan about their sister; Juan desperately does not want to hear it. Oscar says she'd been hiding something, and today it became clear. Franco asks Oscar if he's sure - talk is cheap. Oscar grabs Franco by the face and they look as if they're about to share a hot angry hate kiss. Oscar asks if Franco thinks he's capable of making up such things about his own sister. He says they can't see what's going on under their own noses, with Juan holed up in the bakery all day and Franco loafing at the cantina.

Juan is kneading again and seems to be ignoring them. Franco warns Oscar to be careful about these shameful things he's saying. Oscar insists that Juan speak to their sister (or complains that he hasn't yet?). Juan furiously knocks the heavy kneading table over and hollers at him to shut up. "I warned you!" He shoves both of his brothers. Soon, the three of them are arguing loudly and brawling. Oscar says he has proof. (Note to Oscar: next time, mention the proof earlier in the conversation.)

Just then, Libia comes bounding in, all happy and innocent-looking in a sweet pink dress. Juan says she's just in time to clear up some wild accusations. Oscar says there have been rumors about her all over town. Juan is shocked when she begins to cry instead of denying it. He asks if she doesn't love and trust them. She takes Franco's and Oscar's hands and says says they've been everything to her ever since their parents died. Of course she loves them... "but with him it's different." She loves him with all her heart! With her soul! She begs Juan not to do anything, to promise on their parents' name.

"Our parents?" Juan growls, clenching his fist and gritting his teeth, but he agrees. She says it's true, she's been seeing a man, and he loves her - he's sworn it a hundred times, and she believes him.

Now at the bottom of the long, miscarriage-inducing flight of stairs, Gabriela asks her father if he has no decency. He tells her that what he lacks is her bitterness, and he rolls away. Gabriela asks Eva how she can allow him to speak that way in front of her daughters. "You know how he is," Eva replies. Gabriela says he's a crazy old man who's no longer right in the head. (Grampa smirks near the elevator.) She should send him to an asylum so they can live in peace, she says.

Everyone else stands around awkwardly. Finally Gabriela tells Eva, "well, go on, I don't need you." Eva leaves, and Sofi tells Gabriela she's too rough on Eva, who only lives to serve her. Sofi also starts to say something about her grandfather, but Gabi cuts her off and tells her to shut up, never forget that they are the daughters of Gabriela Elizondo, an irreproachable woman, thank God, and not some cheap loser.

Jimena tells her mother that they're locked up there like prisoners. They're young, and they want to have fun - what's wrong with that? "You were young once, you had fun, you met my father!" Gabriela replies with a slap. "Don't compare yourself with me." Sofi is horrified. Undeterred, Jime asks why she treats her own daughters that way. "Precisely because you are my daughters. It's my responsibility to care for you." It's a heavy task, she says.

"Well if it's so heavy, then don't care for us!" Jime replies. Gabriela lifts her hand to strike again, but Sofi pulls Jime away. "Please, Mother!" Gabi says Sofi should be the last one to say anything. "If your sisters are locked up here, it's because of what happened to you." Sofi says that wasn't her fault - she was raped! Can't Gabi imagine the shame, rage, and helplessness she felt? How she was trembling all over when she was brought back to the house? Gabi wasn't there for her - wasn't the mother she needed so badly. Was she too embarrassed to be the mother of a woman who was raped? Is that why?

Sarita and Jimena hold their sister, while Gabi stands there like the special and irreproachable woman she thinks she is. Then she pushes Sarita out of the way and hugs her sobbing daughter.

Speaking of sobbing, Libia is still crying and swearing that her boyfriend is a wonderful man. Juan wants to know his name. He reaches for her to grab and shake - Franco and Oscar pull them apart. Libia is afraid that if she gives the man's name, Juan will kill him just for loving her. She runs off to her room. Juan knocks some more stuff over, ranting and raving that they have to find out who he is. He's probably some oaf who's just toying with her - Juan will kill him.

If the guy who plays Franco were a better actor, he'd give Oscar an "I told you so" look instead of that blank face. Oscar replies to this non-look with a "yeah, you did tell me so, I'm such an idiot" face.

The Elizondo sisters are talking in a bedroom. Jimena says it was painful to hear Sofi speak of "what happened" to her. "That I was raped," Sofi says matter-of-factly. She says she had to say something, because the silence was killing her. Silence is like death. Sarita, who is apparently their mother's advocate, says it's lucky their mother supported Fernando in his efforts to win her heart. "Mother forced him on me," Sofi explains. Gabi was afraid everyone would find out what happened, and no one would want to marry her. (Jime and Sarita gape in surprise.) Fernando knew about it when he married her. He was the one who found her after she was attacked, and brought her home. Sarita says this explains why their mother likes Fernando so much - he's a great man!

In a nightclub dressing room, a pretty woman (ROSARIO) sits in front of a lighted vanity and weeps at a photo we don't get to see. She hides it in a drawer when Fernando bursts in, yelling at her for having locked the door. She says she doesn't love him, and please leave her alone. He grabs her by the hair and says he'll leave her alone when he gets tired of her. Meanwhile, she must do everything he asks, because she's his property and he can do whatever he wants. He pulls off her robe, shoves her into a chair, and starts to undress.

Hmm. I wonder if Sofía ever saw her rapist's face? Sometimes the simplest explanation really is the best...


Sofi says sure, lots of people think Fernando is a great guy, but he's practically a stranger to her. She's never loved him, and they've never had relations. Because of what happened, she can't stand for a man to touch her, or even be near her. Jimena doesn't understand why she doesn't divorce Fernando. Sofi says he won't agree to it, and he says she'll eventually grow to love him. Sofi's not optimistic about that, and thinks she's destined to live without love.

Juan alternately begs and screams for his sister to come out of her room so they can talk. Oscar tells him she needs their support - or else what, is he going to hit her? Juan says they have to talk. Oscar says okay, but calmly! Franco suggests that Juan do some work instead. (How about you do some work, Franco - I heard you were lazy.) Juan says not until they talk.

Evening falls. He is still kicking at the door as Libia sobs in her darkened room. Oscar and Juan wonder if she wouldn't rather speak to Franco, but he's at the cantina... where Rosario is the headlining act. Now scantily clad, she does a song-and dance number about a man who's a yummy chewy insatiable married bonbon. She throws a wink at Franco, who is drooling happily at the sight of her. (Actually he's only smirking slightly, but half an hour into this show I can already see that we're going to need our imaginations to fill in some of the blanks with this guy.) She accepts a rose from him and thought-bubbles that he's been coming here to see her ever since she started singing there... the way he looks at her... like a tender young boy who hasn't known love. (He continues to smirk, but let's pretend it's a shy smile.)

Ah! She's not thought-bubbling, she's talking to an assistant in her dressing room. She says it's obvious that he likes her, "but you know my story," she tells the assistant. She takes out the white-framed photo again and says she'd give anything for him (or it?), but no, she can't take the risk.

There's a party at the hacienda with a band, ice sculptures, and a chocolate fountain. People are asking Gabriela where her husband is - she says he couldn't come. She privately complains to a priest that her husband is late for his own anniversary party. Then Fernando shows up with Sofi. He gets on his knees and kisses the priest's ring (I'm pretty sure he's only a priest - Gabi called him "padre"?). He pours on the charm, saying he's married to a woman as beautiful as Gabriela.

Sofi looks ready to barf, but recovers when she sees her father - Bernardo, the haystack-inspector. Gabriela announces her husband to the crowd, and they all stand and applaud. She glares into his eyes as she gives him a dry, barely-puckered kiss. She takes him aside and chides him for his lateness. She tells him to put on a smile so the whole world doesn't think he was forced to come to the party. Fernando comes up behind them and congratulates Bernardo for having "such a wife" as Gabriela. (Wow, this guy just never quits, does he?) Fernando, the suegra-lover, says there's no better woman. None!

It's getting late. Juan is finally sitting down. He's still yelling, but his shouts have taken on a wheedling tone and he doesn't sound as scary as he did before. Finally Libi lets him in. He remarks on how pretty she's become and says she's grown to become quite the woman - it's happened so fast. She was so small when their parents died. He was afraid to take care of her because he was so big and klutzy, and she was so fragile. He was afraid he'd break her. He'd comb her hair and put it into ponytails. They're both crying. He used to carry her to bed and sing her to sleep (the Gaviota song, perhaps?) and say her prayers and stay with her when she was scared at night.

She remembers all of it. That's why she's so ashamed and couldn't tell him. He wants to know why she didn't tell him she was in love. She says her brothers and Bernardo are all she has in the world. She feels content and safe when she's with him, but then she got scared that they wouldn't like it.

She tries to kneel at his feet and he angrily tells her not to - she's his little sister, she can't kneel at him!

At the party, the sisters are all hugging their daddy. He tells them they're the best part of the party, the joy of the house, the joy of his life. Gabi drags him away, saying he has to go with her to greet their other guests. He says that if he can't spend time with his girls at the house, then he doesn't want to see anyone else! And he stomps away.

Juan gives Libi their mother's necklace. It's the only thing she had to leave them. He's been waiting for the right moment to give it to her, and he thinks that moment has arrived. She says he's the best brother in the world, and she thanks Virgencita every day because he's her mother and father and friend too. She begs forgiveness for letting him down. He says he wants her to be happy, but the man who loves her must deserve her. He wants to meet him before anything else happens.

Bernardo looks at a photo of Libi hidden in a book. He strokes her hair in the photo and murmurs lovingly. (There's an inscription on the back which will surely raise all kinds of hell when Gabi finds it!) Meanwhile, back home, Libi is combing her hair and looks down at the pregnancy test perched on the edge of the sink. She's pregnant! She dreads telling her brothers, and prays to Virgencita and her mother for help, but is delighted to be carrying Bernardo's child.

Eva comes up the Staircase of Future Hopefully Not Dashed Hopes to tell Bernardo that she was worried and wanted to know if he needed anything. He's dressed up to leave and says no thanks, but if Gabi asks, to say she didn't see him. She enthusiastically agrees and is excessively thrilled to receive a kiss on the cheek. (Peeping out of his room, Grampa sees this and shakes his head in exasperation.)

At the party, Sofi tells her mother that maybe her father's not feeling well, and she eagerly volunteers to go check on him. Fernando wants her to stay with him instead, and Gabi agrees with him - she should be with her husband. Fernando says Gabi runs the house. Gabi beams.

(I'd really like to nickname this guy Eddie Haskell, because the only time he's polite is in front of Gabi's mother. Unfortunately, I think it's too confusing to give a character a nickname that sounds like a real name. How about Slimy? Or is that too straightforward?)

So, where is Bernardo going on the night of his anniversary party? Why, he's gone to see his young girlfriend! She nervously introduces him to her brothers, who are bien impactados. Oscar says this fool is old enough to be her father, if not her grandfather. Bernardo says he may be an older man, but he's not an old fool. He tells Lib he's not afraid of them or anyone. He says he really wants to get to know them, even if the circumstances aren't the best. Franco accuses him of seducing young girls. Oscar says he made her sneak around, but if he were a decent man, he would have respected her. Bernardo says he wants to make everything right and share his life with her - not out of obligation or fear, but because it's what he wants most in the world; she is his future, his life. If he's done something wrong, he'll right it.

Oscar wants to beat him up. Juan says no no, we promised our sister; but he doesn't approve either. None of them do. Bernardo and Libi are mushy as anything, saying it was love at first sight. She says she didn't mean to deceive them. Bern says that was his fault. Franco protests against the relationship. Bern insists that it's not impossible for two people like them to be in love. She's the loveliest girl he's ever met, and he'll do anything for her. All they need is her brothers' agreement to be happy, but he'll let them have the last word.

At the party, Gab is angry to see Eva pushing Grampa around in his wheelchair and scolds her for letting him out of the house. He replies that he doesn't like the way she tries to keep him away from people. She tells him to shut up! He asks if she's embarrassed by her old invalid of a dad in a wheelchair. He tells her to that she can't hide an old guy like him away. Gabi is mortified.

Later, in the bedroom, Slimy begs Sofía to come to bed with him. He says she has to love him, and she will. He grabs her and says she'll love him in the end, no matter what! She begs him not to start that again - they made a deal that she would only marry him if he didn't touch her. He asks how much longer he has to wait - they haven't had one moment of intimacy since they got married. He asks if she still hasn't forgotten what happened? (Duh? That, plus isn't that the night they met, plus his attitude is not contributing to the healing process!) She says she can't forget it, especially with him reminding her at every moment!

The Reyes Bros. step outside the bakery to confer about Libi and Bernardo. Oscar thinks they should let them marry, since he's classy and probably has money. Franco disagrees with Oscar's attitude. Oscar mocks him and says maybe he'd like Bern to be more like himself - a lazy dreamer.

They can't believe this old man will be their BIL. On the other hand, Franco asks, how can they hit a guy who could almost be their father. Juan doesn't care about his age, but he's worried that he's not right for their sister. Oscar says sure he is, if he has money. He reminds his shocked brothers that if Libi keeps getting sick, she'll die if they can't afford the damn medicine! So if it's not for the money, it's for her welfare. The old man can give her what they can't. (I'm not 100% sure I got this part right - help!)

Juan is still worried. All they know about that man is his name. For all they know, he could be quite married, and simply be making a fool of their sister.


Martes

When the Reyes Bros. find out about their sister's little blessing, Juan looks ready to send her to a safehouse in Garbancillo.

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Woo. The recaps won't all be that long (and it didn't help that I had to start pretty late), but it seemed like there was a lot of important stuff to explain in the first episode.

On the bright side, compared to a Pasíon episode, this was a piece of cake. (No bakery pun intended!)
 

Julie, Thanks for getting us off to a splendid start. It's kind of a relief to have somethings to make fun of, isn't it? Your recaps are wonderful, and it was good of you to lay out the important details.

So could we have FurtiveFern? Furryfern? Froggy? I really can't stand the Fernando name alone. It's nearly sacred to some of us.... He seems to portend evil and violence from this first episode so maybe something more desperate sounding will come to someone. Please!!
 

I haven't seen the episode yet, but dang! You have gotten amazingly good at this recapping thing! Thanks@!!!!!
 

Julie, this is a great recap--found the needle in the haystack--Ha Ha.

I hope this new show replaces Pasion in your heart. I think it was good so far. You were in mourning when LFMB ended, but you recovered with Pasion. At least here, you have two stars from LFMB!
 

Kudos..very good. This looks like a winner (in a cheesey kinda way)
Let's see, first of all ol Juan was whipping up my husband's most favorite evah pans. BWAAAHHHHAAA
Not so much, the whole baking with no shirt did it for him. (Of course I keep doing the ewwww hair in the food thing).

Also it can't go without saying...was that not like a bad scene from the FLDS scenerio in Texas, young girl, old guy.

The house of hooters, damn that girl has had some serious top dinero enhancements and now she is dancing in that back water place?
Geez you'd think she at least be a background girl on one of the Univision sports shows.

Also, not to be too judgemental, but don't this people kind of live in the same area, I mean wouldn't the brothers know that Old Guy is the rich married patron with three daughters?
 

Julie: Thanks. Your recap is great.

Oh, my fickle heart. Pasion is gone, but not forgotten, and here I am enthralled by EY once again. I, too, think this is going to be very interesting. With three brothers and three sisters, this novela can go in many directions.

I'm voting in favor of changing Fernando's name. Yes, calling that jerk Fernando is sacreligious.

LOL - finding the needle in the haystack.

One other thing, Bernardo almost looked older than gramps, and, the makeup gave him a cadaverous glow.

From lower Ala
 

Julie****Ah...Where to begin??? I am reeling from the 180 degree turn we have done away from Pasion and our beloved pirates. My head is spinning. I am happy to see Eduardo again. [With the scarf on his head , he did look like a pirate, no ???] I am having a little trouble suspending disbelief and seeing him as a baker. The split screen of Juan and Sofia both enjoying the delicious buns was an interesting if not subltle foreshadowing of things to come ....''mmmmmm...good bread,,,mmmmmmmm...yummooo'' Looks like we will have at least 2 villains who will be easy to despise. Gabi seems to be Bertha from Heridas reincarnated. I immediately thought ''Eddie Haskell'' when Fernando came on the screen. I've seen people kiss up to people before, but this guy has made a science of it. I agree that we CANNOT refer to this guy as Fernando. So far, besides Eddie, I've only come up with Creepy, Fierce, Disgusto, Revolting , Satan , Frodo, Freddy, Hitler, and Scary Spice. I'll keep working on it. The hombre seems devoid of ANY redeeming qualities. I agree that this guy was probably the rapist. Also, did anyone else find the scene of the old dude and the very young girl [who played another coy , innocent ingenue in Alborada , Marina] truly disturbing??? I thought for a minute that she was frolicking in the stream with her abuelo and thought that she seemed a little old to be doing that. What is it with teaming really old dudes with really young girls in these novelas ??? Pablo seems to have that same one look that he sported throughout the entire run of Duelo...except, I did think I actually noticed a second look...lust ...on his face when he was watching Bambi McBusterson shake her moneymaker on stage. However, it doesn't count because...I don't think Pablo was acting. Enough said. Was Bambi looking at a photo of a little boy ?? Did you notice that her assistant was Cristobal's housekeeper on Alborada???? And , one more thing...we've established that Juan is a big baker who does his best to keep clean, but what do the other 2 bros do ???? I thought that was an interesting scene outside the sister's door with all 3 wearing wifebeaters but Franco distinguihing himself as ''the artistic one'' by tying the bandana around his neck. Thanks, Julie***I knew that this one held a lot of mocking potential. Sigh...I wonder if Ric, Camila, and the family are in New Orleans yet . ****Mad Buns Bess/Susanlynn, having a problem letting go of the Ric
 

Most amusing recap, Julie. I'm not watching this but am watching the original over on Telemundo. No need to reinvent the wheel, they have a whole file of nicknames over on the Pasión de Gavilanes site on Telenovela World. (warning, there is some stuff that could considered spoilers in that list) They called Fernando, RA or La Rata for "rata asquerosa," "disgusting rat."

By the way, they called Bernardo, BtCM for "Bernie the Child Molester"
 

I couldn't watch this episode last nite before the Christina's show, I've just recorded it for later.
Julie, it was a great recap! I hope the show will be as interesting as you described it - I can picture the whole thing in my head now ( having seen some images from the promos).
Agree on a taboo of the name "Fernando" for the slimbag.
May be we can have a contest here how to call him and take a vote?

Eve from Cleveland
 

By the way, I really like that there is a number of the episode in the heading - may be we can always have it there - just in case if we need to look for the episode on the Youtube.

Eve from Cleveland
 

Me three to EVERYTHING thats been said so far! So right on about the "Acting" and having to use our imagination. I'm going to stick around for the Recappers and snarking, the best part.

How about "Non do"? Non because he is not Fernando, cierto! And do, short for dough.

Still got to figure how to change my name.
 

EWWWW! Libia and Bernardo...... need I say more.

Rod, I mean Juan, is certainly hotheaded, impulsive and physical. Sound familiar.

This is going to be fun!
 

I have to admit this novela had a very slow start to me but for now it looks like it's worth watching. I LOVE BtCM. Watching them both together really grossed me out! La Rata...I'm not sure that's a good nickname for Fernando...
 

How about Feo-nando to distinguish him from our beloved gorgeous FC.
 

Excellent recap, Julie! and quick, too. Lotsa hormones raging in this episode, the Reyes bros need to catch a breath...Both Gabi and Fernando need appropriate new names- all that I can think of for him is Raton Bastardo, or maybe Bastardo Raton, don't know how that works. For Gabi- something witchy- maybe just Bruja. I'm looking forward to watching and blogging, too. I think that we'll have lots of material to work with, it's alreday showing itself to be a caracature of itself.
 

How about the Weasel for Fernando or does that give weasels a bad name?
 

Thanks for the funny recap, Julie! Sheesh! That Bernardo is old enough to be The girl's GREAT-GRANDFATHER for heaven's sake! She looks like she's only fifteen....or younger! EEEWWWWWW! And why is is it that none of these men have heard of CONDOMS???

The scene of the guys in the bakery kitchen made me imagine the testosterone floating around in the air!:)

Those buns Eduardo took out of the oven are some of my favorites! We call them conchas(shells) and they are good!!!

And,Fernando DOES need a smarmier name! How about Fermented? He always comes out as the bad guy in these novelas!
 

Speaking/writing of caracatures...(sp?)...I've started my outline and filled in some names. Such as 3 sisters: one good one bad one stupid, make that naeive. 3brothers: one good one bad one nieve. 2 parents: evil mother bad father.
I wonder if there's a form online I can print out.
PLEEease TN writers surprise me with this one. Reach for the stars! Get Carla's crib notes.
 

Wow this is way diffrent then the summary i read....well i didnt get a clear first episode summary with Las Aguas Mansas(first remake) I got a clearer one on number 2 and beyond, To compare episodes I got be one episode ahead in Pasión de Gavilanes and one behinde in Fuego. Its kinda slow in the first show which I haven't watched only have read summaries.Im just finishing the end of this weeks episodes in case i dont watch. I had to read up to 10 Las Aguas Mansas summarys just to finish the first week and well I didnt get to read number 10 cause it wasnt put up.
For nicknames
Gabriela= Bitterella
Fernando= El Bando
I didnt notice when watching online that it was the el bando who burst into Rosario's room. Franco looked like a kid in a candy store when his face lit up when he first saw Rosario. Im starting to take notice in how Sherlyn is such a great actress.
Loved the recap its a great start.
I might be off for a few days but will be back.
 

Julie - thank so much for the very descriptive recap. These details were very important IMO.

The first episodio was really interesting. I like Oscar's and Jimena's characters. What can I say about Gabi. Only that I used to be very mad at Erasmo during LFMB and now, comparing him to her, he seems an angel (well almost an angel.

During what period does this telenovela take place? I understand that it's present (only because of the pregnancy test) but now/present or ten years ago/present?
 

Okay, it's no Pasion. There's no question about that. Nevertheless, it has its own charm, and it'll be a lot easier to not take this one too seriously.

Certain cast members (*coughPabloMonterocough*) will also provide plenty of cheap laughs. Unfortunately, it's almost too easy with him. I've never seen him before this, but it didn't take long to figure out which guy some of you were complaining about before.

I like "Bitterella" for Gabi. I'm not crazy about animal nicknames for Fernando because, well, I like most animals, except for cockroaches and centipedes. I like "Nondo," though - it's shorter than "Antifernando" which is how I think of him.

I also thought of trying to match the brothers and sisters up with Brady names, but that didn't work at all.

I agree that Dad looks older than Granddad. I think the grandfather's irreverent personality makes him seem younger, despite Bernardo's corny puppy-lovey talk around Libi. I wanted to snark about the age difference, but it would have taken too long. :) Anyway, the age difference seems crucial to the story.

I put the episode number on there, and it's always safe to assume that the first episode is #1, but it's important not to count on those numbers TOO much - because sometimes when they show them in Mexico, they're a half hour, or 90 minutes, or something that will throw our episode count out of whack and then it can screw up your YouTube searching efforts. I'm sure someone will speak up if that happens, though!
 

Based on the clothes and stuff, I think the time period is supposed to be right-now-today, but it also seems that they are taking care not to include too much trendy stuff (like Razor cell phones and the like) that will date it.

I don't know where it's supposed to take place. I think that waterfall place was in Destilando, but I don't remember where they were when they went there. Maybe one of the shipping ports?

I'm not even sure what they produce at the hacienda.
 

About age difference, I was feeling that its a good thing they have one of those men in a wheel chair so I'll know which one is the abuelo.
How is it that the walking old guy didn't mention that he is married with 3 daughters older than your baby sister? Or did he say that?
 

Julie, I forgot to thank you for the witty recap. You changed gears seamlessly from Pasion and had some great one-liners. Needle in the haystack and using our imagination to fill in Franco's blankness among my favorites. I've seen Pablo in two previous novelas and let's just say he has a lovely singing voice.

I hope they don't keep up the May-December thing as it's just as eww-inspiring as the Andres-Tia thing on ASL.
 

Bonney, if Berni mentioned that he was married with three children, I sure as heck didn't hear it. Juan was even wondering if the guy was married at the end of the episode. They had never heard of him before, which as someone else already pointed out, seems rather odd.

I don't even know if Libi knows of his marital status. Granted, there's nothing left of his marriage to Gabi, but it's usually polite to take care of that before you go making promises to your girlfriend's family.
 

Dear Julie,
GREAT RECAp!!!
As for new names for the bad guys, how about Grita for Gabi? Look out in the yard to see if her letter is still there.
And we can never have the rotten critter named Fernando (that is sacrocanct) How about Furd?
I laughed out loud at the old dude's being the haystack inspector.
Upward and onward, it looks like a bumpy ride.
 

First episodes are always a little rough. I agree with everybody else that the scenes with Bernardo and Libia took a little getting used to. If he were just a little younger or she didn't look about 15, it wouldn't have been so darn creepy. Surely there guys who could plausibly have fathered those three sisters who don't look 70! She looks way younger than his daughters. Oh well, they won't be going at it for long--the synopsis says she's doomed.

The other thing that was a little hard to take was the way her brothers carried on about her fooling around and the fighting between them. It seemed a little over the top. I can imagine them being upset but not that enraged. It was a little too freudian for me. It was like we were back to the 18th century again (remember Santiago and Justo's freak out when the found out that Cami wasn't really married).

The dancer reminded me of Lis Vega on Duelo, only with less talent and bigger gazongas. And here's Emiliooo (Franco) leering at her again. I hope he loses that scarf. It's kind of effeminate. I realize he's supposed to be the sensitive one but that's a bit much. Maybe having him go to strip club to watch Rosario was the writers' way of making sure we know he's not gay.

And Fernando the rata, or whatever we end up calling him--he is a sublime creep. He played a transvestite murderer in la Madrastra. I think I'll never be able to see him without imagining him in drag.
 

Dear Julie,
GREAT RECAp!!!
As for new names for the bad guys, how about Grita for Gabi? Look out in the yard to see if her letter is still there.
And we can never have the rotten critter named Fernando (that is sacrosanct) How about Furd?
I laughed out loud at the old dude's being the haystack inspector.
Upward and onward, it looks like a bumpy ride.
 

We've seen that staircase before. Perhaps Destilando???
 

Great recap, Julie!! Thanks!

And Cap'n Bonney, I thought of NanDough, or NanD'oh! as nicknames, too. He does appear to be a rata of the first order already!

This one should be fun--it's light entertainment compared to Pasion. I LOL'ed at that water scene, and the 'este pan esta deliciosa!' split screen. I think this one should be some campy fun.

Major eeeeeyuwing on my part at those love scenes between Gramps and Lolita. Eeeyuw, eeyuw, eeyuw! Hopefully we won't have to see many more of them!

Susanna J.
 

Don't know if it is the exact same staircase but that type (two landings at the top is a classic layout in telenovela land. Julie--that was great to point out the deaths and miscarriages that happened on that staircase. It was in Mansion Mancera in Pasion, La Madrastra had one like it, Sonar no Cuesta Nada had one too. Basically every grand house that wasn't an actual on-location house but a set.
 

I like "Furd" a lot!

I'm not sure about the staircase. I think the one at the hacienda in Destilando was shorter and more elegant-looking, but it's been a while and I'm easily confused by decor changes. I know they reuse buildings, but I doubt that they'd use the Destilando place again so soon.

It definitely can't be mistaken from the modern-looking, slightly curved staircase of doom at Aaron's apartment, though.
 

I vote for Feo-nando, good one!
 

I'm pretty sure that the staircase set is the same one used in Amor Real and Destilando , and I think that the long shot of the hacienda was Manuel's hacienda in Amor Real so Eduardo and Adela shoud feel right at home. As for the villain's name...I like Furd or Rato or FerNOTo or NotFernando, I think. Maybe Furtive or Furball or Fur. This is going to be an intertesting ride.
 

"Sigh...I wonder if Ric, Camila, and the family are in New Orleans yet . ****Mad Buns Bess/Susanlynn, having a problem letting go of the Ric." I too am having major Pasion withdrawals and I don't think Fuego will help me recover.
 

I think I'm mixing up the stairs at Montalvenia with the stairs at Granny Pilar's place. The stairs at Pilar's weren't very high, but the ones at the hacienda might have been.

I LOVE Furball for Fernando... because that's the look Sofi gets on her face when he's around.
 

Julie, thanks for the LOL recap. Bernardo looks really familiar to me, don't know why. During the haystack scene I didn't have my glasses on, I thought who's that dude in the wrinkled suit? Lots of over the top screaming with the bros too. Is it just me, or does the mother look like Grita from Pasion?
Did anyone recap Cristina from last night. Tried to keep up, but it was hard. Disappointed there was no Mario. Waaaaaaaaah!
On another note, my friend Jennie, recovering from lymphoma surgery was so touched by all of you Pasion watchers' thoughts and prayers and sends out a huge e-hug to all of you. She got out of the hospital early and called to tell me in a very weak voice that she was happy she was going to be able to see Fuego and Cristina. Jeesh! Talk about hard core.
 

Before I let Pasion go...a couple stream-of-consciousness comments : Why didn't we see any pirates wearing gold earrings??? This thought just popped into my head . Didn't pirates wear gold earrings??? I would have liked seeing Ric sporting one to really finish off his pirate look. And, I watched the last few episodes and it sure seemed that Pedro's head was shaved not bald..so I wonder if shaving an infant's head was a trend in Mexico like it is in Argentina and if it still is done. If I run into my ex-student Ersleva , I'll have to ask her because she has a little boy. And finally, I loved the Cristina interview of the Pasion stars. There are many goodlooking hombres, but few have a light shining from their eyes and a constant goodnatured smile that indicates that they are as beautiful inside as they are on the outside. Fernando's personality seems to glow from that gorgeous face. As my motherr used to say, ''Handsome is as handsome does.'' Fernando appears to be a truly nice person.
 

I don't think he's the same actor (the credits on this show are even harder to read than the ones from Pasion), but Bernardo somewhat resembles the Mendiola father from LFMB, with his hair darkened.

I must have missed the original mention of Jennie, but I'm glad she's doing better - I know lymphoma is tough.

I watched (half-watched) the Pasion cast on Cristina but wasn't able to follow much of it. Tellyawhat, I'll create a blog post for it and people can comment on what they did catch, OK?
 

Thanks Julie!

"It was like we were back to the 18th century". Margaret I totally agree with you. And that's why I keep picturing to myself dated settings. When I read about the pregnancy test, I though it was weird.
 

HaHaHa...''Who's that dude in the wrinkled suit?''...GOOD ONE !!! xoxoxo Besos to Jennie***You go ,Girl.
 

Julie you must be right about Humberdo Mendiola. His name was Carlos Bracho and Bernardo's actor is also Carlos Bracho. I haven't seen Bernardo yet though so I can't have a visual identification
 

Well, if the names match, the I guess that's Humbo! He looks different with darker hair, no glasses, and casual clothing!
 

Great recap Julie, I'm going to really enjoy this one. Since I'm just getting the synopsis and different characters sorted in my mind,I have a different opinion about renaming all the characters so early in the novela. I recall that in Destilando, we had several names for Rodrigo that changed according to the episode. That was fine because he was given a nick name that pointed out a character strength or flaw of the moment. On the contrary, Isa was nicknamed "Trophy whore Barbie" and we had to live with it everyday for the next 8 months that the novela lasted. A similar nameing occured in Pasion with Grita, Whorehey and Whoresula. Not only does it become boring it stifles creativity. Besides, such nicknames are only funny and fitting the first few times you hear them. Why not come up with creative names as they apply to the particular episode (Similar to creative names for the recaps. One creative name is not chosen for the entire series).
 

Julie - great recap for someone in mourning for Pasion! This one could be a good mockfest, or a touching drama - stay tuned.
Loved your comment - they found the needle - LOL.
Can't stand the young girl with the old man. Creepy.
I do like seeing Eduardo Yanez, oops, Juan get that intense angry
look - hot hot hot.
Already despise the non-Fer - Feasel, I call him, so as not to offend weasels. He oozes slime.

I'll be watching Fernando Colunga in La Usurpadora on Telefutura, even though there are no pirates.
 

I was dissappointed too Anon that MMMMario wasn't a surprise guest on Christina. But I enjoyed the view.
Speaking of view, I was doing okay and open to the Lis actress as "actress" until she jokingly started feeling up on FC AGAIN! It WAS FUNNY but I did have that jump in my memory of her ...demise.
Must be like the Jaws movie when a fin in the water produced back flashes and nervous giggle.
 

The scene with the girl and the viajo kind of made me squeemish!! I kept thinking well, maybe he will die soon. ha. I was going to suggest Ferd (Furd) but someone beat me to it. It is perfect because it kind of sounds like turd but still retains the root of the word Fernando.

bk
 

I know some people didn't like "trophy whore Barbie," but there's a reason why the name stuck. No one was forcing people to use the name. I used it only a few times myself, but I didn't object to it. People kept using the term because they felt it suited her - and that was happening more often in the comments than in the recaps.

Changing someone's nickname constantly can be confusing, and at one point our blog mom kindly suggested that we be more cautious about this for recapping purposes.

It's not "stifling creativity" to stick with a popular nickname. If someone has a more creative suggestion and people like it, the name will definitely catch on.
 

Oops, sorry i mispelled viejo. a typo, really bk
 

...to be fair, however, I think any nickname that begins with the letter F and conveys distaste will suit him just fine and not be confusing, because with his behavior there won't ever be much doubt as to who we're referring to.

Some of the other guys have annoying traits too, but it's obvious that Fernando is going to be the object of most of our hostility.

Gabi will get the rest of it, but I was too disgusted with Furd last night to have any rancor left for her.
 

This is a little out there but Julie, I was pleased to see you noticed the cockatiels at the begining of the May-Dec. love scene at the waterfall. I have a cockatiel and my thought was, what are cockatiels doing in Mexico, they are Australian birds. Must be somebody's escaped pets or their decendants! LOL
 

EXCELLENT RECAP for a truly lousy show. Watched it without Spanish subtitles, understood it (surprised myself) and, in my humble opinion, the best thing about this one is that the bread really did look very good. Can't stand Juan and Franco, never could, never will. Thank heavens I have La Traicion over on Telemundo. Will probably continue to read the re-caps because all the recappers are so witty.
 

Regarding names, we must find a name for the slimeball. My suggestions (sorry if any are reruns):
-Slimeball
-Demento
-Swamp Thing
-Smeagol
-Bundy or some other serial killer
I also liked others' suggestions of Furball or Nondo.

If you're looking for a Panaderia (bakery) name, check this site. Mi Tierra Panaderia.

I missed Bernardo. I just love Carlos Bracho's voice. Like listening to James Earl Jones or something. So rich!
 

I didn't think Fuego was "truly lousy" - well, maybe compared to the likes of Pasion, but not compared to some of the other stuff I've seen.

It's hard to judge by the first episode, when the actors are still getting used to their roles. It does look as if it will be very predictable, though, even without being familiar on the existing telenovela(s) on which it is based. I hope I'm wrong and that there will be lots of surprises, but rather than get my hopes up, I'm just going to take things at face value for a while.

The cockatiels were cute, but they really looked out of place!

Thanks for the bakery link, Paula. Now I know it's past time for lunch. :)
 

I hope everyone remembers Melinama's e-mail a while back about not being too obscure with nicknames, people don't know who we are talking about if we get too nickname crazy.

Julie I can see that you were fortunate to have missed Duelo de Pasiones, or you would already be familiar with the wooden 'acting' of Pablo Montero. He was horrible in that show and I imagine horrible here too.
And what's with the three idiot guys freaking out over their sister having a boyfriend? I would understand after meeting him, but just at the very idea? Ugh.

Great recap Julie!
 

Just wondering...Is it ''Dough in the Blood'' or ''Blood in the Dough''??? Either way, it's pretty disturbing.***Madd Buns,,,off baked goods for awhile
 

I'm voting for Furd - I checked definition and it fits really well.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Furd

Now with all these comments I really want to see this first episode - I bake bread myself and I have a pet cockatiel

Eve from Cleveland
 

I like the idea of naming Fernando after a real life wicked person or murderer. Someone mentioned the name "Hitler". I like that. Along those same lines, what about "Saddam" or "Fidel" (as in Castro). Those are just a few suggestions.
 

FeoNando is sounds good to me. It has the advantage of being enough like his actual name that it won't confuse new people like Chris suggested. And even if some of us use it comparing it to handsome 'nando, I think his looks are pretty much for all to see.
 

I bake bread too so even the commercials of sweaty muscle man kneeding dough like lifting weights was laughable. You don't need arms muscle to do that stuff, you need hand muscles. BUT not to worry. Its fiction.
I thought the brothers were freaking because their sister was sexually active with some user loser. Of course the worse that could happen in that case would be impregnated or not by an irresponsible jerk who went off to brag and write invitations on bathroom stalls, no?

I just had a backward thought. Was Ursula a woman before her time? She was criticized for what?
 

Yea the loveing makeing in PDG was lighter and not all over the place like this one. I actuly injoyed weatch Libia run across the lone open mountain field by the road to meet Bernardo in his car in PDG. Cant quit remember how they met up in this one.
I read on a Pasion De Gavilanes site(not offical site) that these were the ages.
Bernardo Age 52
Gaby(Bitterella):48
Sarita(dont know if shes the oldest in this one. but is in the other.): 26
Sofie(I think) (Norma in PDG):24
Jimena: 22
Fernando(el Bando):28
Grandpa(Martin in PDG):73
Juan:28
Franco :26
Oscar:24
Libia:21
Rosario:24
that help?
 

How about Fernasty for our villain?

Can't say the first episodio knocked my socks off. Seems like standard soapy stuff. Haven't ever seen Yañez in anything before, but what I saw last night was major overacting. Didn't believe in his character at all.

And wasn't Adela raped and subsequently celibate practically forever in El Manantial? I hope she's not so wimpy and weepy through the whole thing.

Oh well, I usually hang for a week to see if it grabs me.
 

Thank you so much for connecting BERNARDO and HUMBERTO MENDIOLA. That would have driven me crazy. I knew he looked familiar, but it seems he has aged since FMB. I think they wanted the contrast between VERY OLD and VERY INNOCENT to exaggerated and they sure managed it.
 

Libi was 21 in the other thing? Yikes! In Fuego she looks about 15. Whatever is the legal age in Mexico, she looks maybe ten minutes older at the most! And Bernardo looks a lot older than 52, IMO... my own father looks younger at 63.

I guess it doesn't matter, 'cuz it's a done deal now.

I did think the brothers' reaction was way overdone in any case - especially Juan being angry with Oscar just for suggesting it. Don't shoot the messenger, or no one's ever going to want to tell you anything!
 

Novelera, Adela Noriega is to weeping what Fay Wray is to screaming, so I'm afraid you're in for it.
 

"Fernasty" - I like it!
 

Thanks for the recap but from the sounds of it, don't know if I'll bother. Eduardo all emotional & hot headed? Yeah, Destilando all over again. And talk about a boatload of meanies...where's the fun? Surely not in an old goat & a young, now pregnant but sickly little girl. Yuck. A mother who locks her daughters up & verbally abuses an old man in a wheelchair?

Hardly sounds like entertainment. The eye candy isn't sweet enough. Besides, sweat dripping into the bread dough is just plain gross.

:-(

Where's Ric???????? I feel like Tia Fran in the desert.
 

About Ursula: I think she was before her time, in that she didn't want to let the restrictive and sexist mores of her time get in her way.

The negative side of this is that she seemed to think that equality meant that women should be able to behave as abusively as men, instead of men behaving respectfully towards women.

This abusive outlook also extended to the way she treated others. She thought nothing of messing with Vasco's marriage, and even tried to convince her father to assert his first-night rights with Ines.

I didn't think she was particularly whorish, but her sexual behavior did expose her family and her lovers to a lot of risk, and she didn't care.

Hence the urge for some people to give her an insulting name, and I guess you can only do so much with a name like "Ursula." I never noticed any other nickname suggestions for her.

I have noticed that people react to the word somewhere along the following scale, on which I would be maybe a 2.2:

1. Some feel that it is a deeply offensive word that should never be used, even when it is technically correct.

2. Some prefer to restrict its use to describe a person who allows himself or herself to be exploited for profit.

3. Some see it as an all-occasion insult that doesn't necessarily mean anything specific at all.

I believe that the third case was how it was applied to "Whorsula." Of course she's not literally a whore; if anything, I think she would have had a Frequent Customer Discount at the ladies' brothel, if such a thing existed, which would make her a john rather than a prostitute. :-)
 

Aw, Mad Maggie, don't take my word for it! At least check out an episode. It's probably not as goopy as I made it sound. :)
 

Hey, "Fernasty" hits the spot with me also. Since it's actually a part of his name and also describes his personality, it'll suit him to a tee. While some of the real life villan names suggested are suitable, they may be offensive to some of our readers. In order to remain one big happy blog, "Let's be kind to one another".
 

Woooooah! Just saw the alleged ages from emilee's list and 52 for Bernardo! Given the ages of the daughters, 52 certainly seems plausible but he looks at least 15 years older.

I do like the image of eddie haskell for the KISS UP aspect, but it doesn't capture Fernando's violence.

I'd vote for any of the following:
Ratoncito, or RATOTE (a great big rat!), SLIMEBOY, Slimebag, FERnasty, NastyNANDO, Senor Vomitoso

When you combine, kiss up, used car salesman, and violence, the evil expands exponentially and it's hard to come up with a name combining all of that.
 

Oiye, me three Mad Maggie... when you said, "Hardly sounds like entertainment. The eye candy isn't sweet enough....

and Blogger jestena said...
Novelera, Adela Noriega is to weeping what Fay Wray is to screaming, so I'm afraid you're in for it.

"In the desert...like Tia Fran"...wait... *uncontrollable belly bouncing laughs...wiping away a tear...*

I HAVE GOT to get over this! nope got the giggles now and must leave the area.
 

I know that everyone is welcome to comment on this blog but when people start saying the novela itself is so stupid or totally unbelievable or other really negative comments, it kind of ruins it for those of us who are enjoying it and trying hard to get "into it It' so we can recover from the loss of our PASION. The comments about bad acting are understandable, but please don't get too overzealous with knocking the novela in general.... Anyone agree with me?
 

Did anyone think it seemed odd that Sofi's sisters seemed to be hearing about the rape for the first time? In fact, from some of the conversations, it seemed as though they were all meeting for the first time.

Jimena said their mother was keeping them locked up in the house, so you'd think they'd already have had plenty of time to compare notes on this info.

I also noticed that the discussion of Sofi's marriage did not include any speculation as to why Fernasty (Feonando... Furd... Furball) agreed to marry Sofi in the first place, especially with a no-sex deal. Are they really so naive as to not suspect an ulterior motive?
 

zuI have one more thing to say,
before that I must say I like Fernasty,
Now i never have sat through a show fully from beging to end no idea if i will this but I want to say to those who are not likeing it, that its only the first ep give it another shot. Now I hate math so i'll say this in my best words.I may have set myself for the first week online and conecting summaries with my double remake watching both togther or Fuego alone are both rodeo of a ride.It may be one week but since im getting my laptop for my birthday(which is next week 5/8) i should be able to take myself off the pc and move around the house and fianlly maybe complete a novela or two or more.
 

Julie, you’ve started us off with a bang and a terrific recap! Not one, but two, counting the Cristina recap! Thanks!!!

Franco was reading a book. Hm. Maybe we have an improvement over Duelo.

“A very young woman (LIBIA) frolics in the water with a much older man (BERNARDO), while a pair of cockatiels (Statler and Waldorf) and another tropical bird try not to look.” ROTFL!! The guy who is playing Bernardo (Humberto from LFMB!) has to be 50 years older than the gal playing Libia. Ew. (He’s the same age as my husband, but I’m a woman of a certain age, not an ingénue).

“Now Libia and Bernardo are naked in a haystack someplace. From the contented looks on their faces, it appears that they found the needle they were looking for.” ROTFLLL!!! I’m not going to hold up much longer if I keep laughing like ths.

“Here is a character in desperate need of a nickname, because I think it will pain all of us to refer to this man as "Fernando." Amen! He’s a sleaze already—in less than one hour-- and a real suck-up where Gabriela is concerned. Let’s run a nicknaming contest for this jerk.

“If the guy who plays Franco were a better actor, he'd give Oscar an "I told you so" look instead of that blank face. Oscar replies to this non-look with a "yeah, you did tell me so, I'm such an idiot" face.” Ah, yes, here’s our beloved Duh-milioooo back with us again. Shucks, I was so hopeful.

“Fernando knew about it when he married her. He was the one who found her after she was attacked, and brought her home.” Anybody want to make book on whether Fernando had something to do with the attack in the first place? So convenient that he showed up right on time. Julie, looks like you might have had the same thought.

“Franco, who is drooling happily at the sight of her. (Actually he's only smirking slightly, but half an hour into this show I can already see that we're going to need our imaginations to fill in some of the blanks with this guy.)” ROTFL!!

“He gets on his knees and kisses the priest's ring (I'm pretty sure he's only a priest - Gabi called him "padre"?).” Maybe this is our clue that Fernando has never been to a church.

Jeanne
 

3:24, I kind of agree that if you really hate something, it doesn't make sense to keep watching. But sometimes it's possible to enjoy something BECAUSE it's bad in just that special way that makes it fun.

Since it's only the first episode, we're still trying to figure out whether we love it because it's great, love it because it's awful, or hate it because it's awful. I think we're trending into the second category already, but it's still way too soon to decide. The plot hasn't really begun yet.

After a week or two, it all should become clearer, and then the people who really can't enjoy it on any level will have moved on. There will still be a lot of mockery, but it will be based more on real interest in the characters and plot than on the extraneous stuff.
 

OMG - 74 comments already!! Holy cow, ok I'll be brief.

JULIE FABULOUS!!!!!!!

BERNARDO/LIBIA...IIIICCCKKKKK!!!!!!
Really bugged me. Yes nickname needed.

Has anyone ever read "Los Tes Cerdos"? Nacho, Tito y Miguel? We couldn't help but compare the bros, baker, brick layer, and X to them (the three little pigs). Hysterical.
 

In my Spanish class maybe a year ago we read "The House of Bernarda Alba" by Federico García Lorca, a play dealing with a despotic mother who keeps her three daughters locked up and dressed in severe mourning for the death of their father - I think 5 years before.

This novela really reminds me of that famous play.
 

Really, Emilee? Never once from beginning to end, and now you're trying two at once? Two versions of the same thing? Yikes, you are ambitious.

It will be interesting to hear your non-spoilerish thoughts on the two as you watch them together... for as long as you can stand it. :)
 

Julie***You did an outstanding job of recapping, and I always appreciate your clever sense of humor. As Cris Ferro states at the top of this site's page : ''We love to mock here. Do not mistake it for real hate.'' I am in, but then , I love Eduardo and Adela, so they are reason enough for me to keep watching. I like the music and the scenery, too. And, I'm sure that in time, I'll get used to the big hats. Even seeing the old hacienda from Amor Real is comforting for me. And Gabriela [Bertha] evidently made it off Doll Island after all, and she is someone who is easy to hate. The whip is a nice touch, no??? Kitten with a whip...that's Gaby...someone who can just suck the fun right out of any room....or even an outdoor party , verdad ???? Sometimes it's just fun to have something to laugh about together. Besides, there are lots of familiar faces : The housekeeper is Diego's mother from Amar sin Limites , and theAnd then there's Pablo...but I'll watch anyway. As for the villain, I don't care what we call him as long as it's not Fernando. I will probably think of him by my 10th grade geometry teacher's name or perhaps by the name of the guy who dumped me when I was 16....2 villains in my life. We could just call him Really Bad Dude or Very Evil Guy. Anyhoo, thanks for the fun recap, Julie, and ...I'm in.
 

Something disappeared from my last post....The priest is the lawyer from Mundo de Fieras.
 

Something disappeared from my last post....The priest is the lawyer from Mundo de Fieras.
 

A whip?? I didn't even notice a whip! Who has a whip - is it Biterella? Is it like a riding crop?
 

Thanks for the recap Julie. I'm glad others felt the Libia and Bernardo was just too much and way creepy. It look like the show will be very mockable.
 

Kitten with a whip was in a scene in the montage. Gaby was threatening one of the daughters [Jimena??] with it.
 

OMG - that's why Bernardo looked so familiar - it is Humberto from La Fea BIG DUH FOR ME.
Again, thanks for the well wishes for Jennie.
How about since we all love animals and don't want to insult one, we call him FauxFer. Kills 2 birds with one stone - that is - this Fernando is gross and so is wearing real fur. :)
 

FauxFer*****That's the best suggestion yet!!!!...very clever !!!! That's my fav of all.
 

Jazzee, I love, Jazzee! I think I may stick with FauxFer!
 

Big duh for me too! I did not recognize him as Humberto. I will be looking again tonight.
 

I meant "I love THAT, Jazzee!"
 

Uh-oh, Julie...I think you scared Jazzee !!
 

And here I was feelin' the love Julie. Damn!

Thanks to all for the compliments on my Faux Fer suggestion.

I'm totally giving this a chance but looking so forward to Jaime Camil (the real Fer in my book) that if I have to make a choice, I might have to jump ship (another subconscious Pasion reference) ha ha
 

Awww, I love you too. I just didn't want to seem like I was playin' favorites. :)
 

I like Faux Fer suggestion as well.
So, may be we have a winner?

Eve from Cleveland
 

The recap was very funny, Julie, and much more entertaining than the episode.
My main question is about Libi and Bernardo (I should have recognized him from LFMB).
WHY is Libi attracted to Bernardo? (Yes, I know there has to be a plot device that sets the three brothers in motion to seek vengeance, etc., but that's not what I mean.)
The scenes we saw showed them already in love and making out (finding the needle in the haystack--BWAH!).
So, HOW did their romance start? How did they meet? What made Libi think he was all that instead of liking some young guy?
I just couldn't see the attraction, or find it believable. As others have commented, it looked creepy, and Bernardo did look older than his rolling father-in-law.
Juan/Eduardo dripping sweat in the bread dough was sort of yucky, too. I do look forward to some good laughs during this tn, but not the same intense involvement of Pasion.
La Paloma
 

Maybe he's the classic "father figure" since it's apparent they lost their parents at a very early age and he looked at her "like a woman" instead of the baby her bros prob treated her as. I'm no psychoanalyst - just sayin'
 

no Julie i havent sat threw a novela,I have a bad habit of the not standing the painful parts or getting bored. my most best watched hours for good luck are 3:00pm,2:00pm(somtimes),8:00pm and 9:00pm and others but those are my tops. (yea im also keeping ontop of Rubi i heard its a classic). Im suffering from that feeling of to late to save the Juan show(ay recording and saveing shows is like never ending math. you come in half way or close to the end or the begining)
I can watch like the starting point and then half way i'll stop then near the end i'll watch. See why im recording things from beging to end lol! getting my laptop is the center of everything for me right now. once i get it i think i'll tune more....... more i will, Im looking forward to Fuego,that new comdy after Juan in a month, i got a start to Fuego online,Im gonna work at the new 2:00pm show cause im not sure if i should record it or let it go(thats why im trying to finish this weeks fuego. havent finished number 5 i have been at that ep for 3 days and well i gave up the second to last part. since i gave myself a headache plus i found theres no Las (whatever it is) summary guess have to wait till ones posted here, probley will be at it tomarow again watching 5)Truthfully I cant see another way to watch fuego the comparing it to Pasion de (however you spell it)Its nice and not that hard to watch 1 part to eachshow back to back. what takes so long for to finish is runing upstairs then back down over and over to stop my tapes and doing chores in between(thats life in the house on my daily basics).Maybe you could help guide me on some shows to watch, Im try to go for smaller numbers since i got enough to take on when i get my laptop. I had Pasion in mind next to Rosalinda since there just about over 80. And a bunch of others i really miss like the two faces of ana.
 

You're off to a great snarky start, Julie. LOL! --I wonder if Sofia would be half as enthusiastic about eating that bun if she saw the scuzzy type of bakery it was baked in, not to mention the scuzzy guy (with all due respect to EY) who baked it. Blechhh! AND what a contrast in that scene with Sofia and Juan munching those buns. I for one will have to really stretch to ever believe opposites attracting in their case. (Again, respects to EY, cuz his character has GOT to undergo metamorphosis first --literally!)
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As for that kiss-a$$ Fernando, I already think of him as Kissyfer if not Nonefer since Sofia ain't givin' none to Fer no way no how.........
 

What's in a name? For one thing a lot of distraction that can take you away from the story itself. Although I like the name FerNasty as a suggestion I notice that both of the most popular names were submitted by people who might not even watch the show after the first couple of weeks. Faux fur I don't like. Although I like animals, the name sounds too much like an advertisement for the animal right activists and less about his nasty personality. As far as not wanting him to have the same name as Fernando in Pasion, I don't subscribe to all that commotion. I liked him, he's handsome, but it's time to move on and the name is not copywrited to him. If we must rename him can we at least come up with something after some of us has had the chance to enjoy a few episodes?
 

Faux Fer DOES sound like a substitute for mink for the PETA crowd. Much prefer Fernasty.
 

Thanks julie for doing a great job on the first episode recap. Yes, this one will be a whole lot easier to understand and recap than Pasion was.

I did try to give the first episode a try, but I'm still suffering from Pasion withdrawls so I will have to pass on watching it.

Did everyone notice that the actor playing Gramps in the wheelchair here played Rodrigo's gramps in DA?

Jody :)
 

How about Fernandon't ????
 

How about Frignando?
 

Wow Jody - I did not recognize Rodrigo's Gramps! (We mostly knew him as a misty flashback or a photo in Destilando, didn't we?) Good catch!
 

I like "Fernandon't", but I might be too lazy to type the whole name.

Maybe I'll just go with Foo.
 

How about FerNO ??? You know...like Dante's 'Ferno . Help. I can't stop. This is addictive.
 

How about ODNANRER? That's Fernando spelled backwards. It indicates that he's the opposite of Fernando in Pasion.
 

Outstanding recap, Julie! Much funnier than the first episode.

Yes, EY was overacting, Maybe because the script was so flat.

But that first bakery scene with Juan was entertaining. First wiping his nose on his arm. Then when he lifted the bucket of water over his head, I was sure he was going to try to drink it!

My votes for the slimy yerno Fernando are:

Eduardo Haskel
El Raton
The Violator

Bravo, Julie! Thanks for the recap. I'll be curious to see how this novela turns out.

Susana
 

Hee Hee!!!I love all the funny suggestions for Fernando! Hope a winner is picked!
 

After seeing Pervy Grampa with Libia, La Font doesn't seem so bad to me. Ugghhhh!
 

My favorite nickname so far is FeoNando, I'm going to use that tonight I think. It's not so obscure as to be confusing I think. And he sure is Feo.
 

Jeez zap the name game: everyone was just being silly and having some fun. Calm down. I wasn't trying to offend anyone's political sensibilities. Since both the past novelas had a Fernando we liked is the only point being made. You need to keep a sense of humor in these things and if the comments bother, just skip em
 

Where is SchoolMarm,Jeanne? I haven't really gotten into this novela with two segments gone..Destilando Amor was great,as LFMB, so where does one go when we had the great ones in the last few years..

Eduardo Yanez is still looking like Rodrigo to me,and Adela Noreiga is not one of my favorite actresses...Arcely Armbula (not right spelling of her last name,but ex-girlfriend of Luis Miguel & from great novelas like Sonadoras,etc.and a beautiful woman)should have had the lead in this one--not Noreiga..Arcely will have a small role in this novela time sometime in the future,I read...Regards,Maureen,Ft. Myers
 

Maureen, I'm here--just not commenting lots. Got kind of busy this week. Was scheduled to go to a meeting yesterday out of town and found that I could wait to go until this afternoon--so I'll be on the road again this afternoon and had an entire extra night at home, what luxury!

Jeanne
 

Jeannie, Sent you a short email earlier..Someone said this novela unbelievable & stupid..?I hope so..This is why we love them..

I read Humberto Mendiola on this one? I'll definitely have to tune in tonight,if I can stay awake...

Fuego en la Sangra? I thought that was fire in the blood, i.e blood in the fire..?Am I way off base here?

Regards,Maureen
 

Export Red aka Maureen, glad to see you back on the blog lines. We miss you on Juan, hope to see you back there too.

Judy B. (on someone else's computer)
 

Yep, THAT Humberto--Mendiola. He's about 71 years old, as old as my husband in real life. The girl who plays Libia can't be over 20. He could be her grandfather and is old enough to be great-grandpa of that bebe. Ew. I like the actor, but not in that relationship--that's not May-December, it's February-December. Must have been a Leap Year.

;-)

Jeanne
 

Judy B..Thank you..I've been so busy in exports that I haven't had much time to see "Juan" or be here..You recappers & commentators are the best, as always..

I want to see Fuego tonight to see what's going on..Jeanne called me on the phone on her trip to fill me in on the storyline for the last few days..

Take care,my friend..See you here..
 

i can't speak for Las Aguas Mansas, but in PdG, Juan says Libia is 17, not 21.
 

Ew, that's even worse.

Jeanne
 

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