Friday, January 16, 2009
Cuidado Thursday January 15, 2009: Telenovelaland: Where even padres and grannies don’t tell the truth
Padre Anselmo is telling Mari to look deep down inside herself to decide about Leo, but she doesn’t want to open old wounds thinking about JM. The padre asks if JM were free, would she go back to him? Leo walks in and there’s an awkward silence. Mari says she’ll go see about the baby and off she runs.
Leo notes that Mari was crying and asks the padre if it has to do with the baby’s father. The padre says she says she doesn’t care for him anymore. Leo says I’m hoping so.
Mari wonders to herself why the padre asked if she’d go back to JM if he were available. Cande comes in and Mari says the padre is asking weird questions – what’s really up with JM? Cande dances around the subject, then asks if Mari’s decided whether they’ll stay or go back to the DF.
Elsa is at her folks’ house and she is telling her daddy that Nelson is a goner due to cirrhosis and doesn’t he think it would be very wrong for a wife to abandon a husband who is sliding into home plate? Her daddy just kisses her hand.
In the blue kitchen, the padre tells Mica about what he asked Mari, but says Mari just started crying, so probably she still loves JM. Mica tells her brother the padre how Leo has brightened up since Mari got there. Of course she’s on Team Leo so she says even if JM is free, his life is a mess, his wife, that French woman! She should marry Leo – she’ll fall in love with him over time since he’s such a great guy. Besides, everyone at the hacienda loves her. Let her stay! The padre pokes at his soup.
Later Mari asks the padre to tell her the truth, did something happen with JM? She’s had bad dreams and all, so she called JM and he said he still loves her. Mari says but he’s married…. The padre says ummm best to just be patient and don’t make any rash decisions. If you want to go back to JM maybe something can be arranged. Mari says yeah right. Anyway I don’t want to make my life so complicated. Know what? I think I’ll just stay here with Leo and my baby.
At castle San Ramon, Rocio is telling JM about how Onelia wants to dump her garbage on little Mayita, but Rocio’s standing guard. JM is worried that Onelia is going to make a lot of things public and that she’s going to smear him to Mayita. Rocio tells him the facts are on his side.
Elsa’s parents come to Nelson’s where they are talking to Elsa, but Nelson’s bed is empty. They say they want her to come home. She says I told you no. They say we mean both of you – Nelson too!
In the barn, Leo asks Mari if she’s going to leave. She says I’m here now. He says you’re like a dove that arrived in a storm. And when the dove’s nest isn’t needed anymore, she flies off, not just to the trees in the garden, but far off, so far away nobody sees her anymore. Leo says I don’t know when you’ll leave. Mari says I’m going to stay here with you. Leo is stunned. He says it’s like a dream. He takes Mari’s hand and she pats his like it’s a business shake.
Rocio hints to JM what about Mari? He says it hurts him to remember her and guess what she called yesterday. Rocio is jazzed. JM says I told her I still love her, but she said she’s moved on. Rocio says don’t believe it. JM says our home situation is rough right now, it’s not the right time.
Leo is declaring his devotion and Mari says I know. You saved me and the baby, so our lives properly belong to you. Leo turns serious and says it is just gratitude? You’re not staying because of love? If so, never mind. Mari says no it’s not gratitude and do you think I’d be the only woman on earth who wouldn’t fall for you? He gives her a happy hug and kisses the top of her head. You pick the date he says and Mari looks hesitant.
Now Nelson is back in the room and he thanks Elsa’s parents and says he’ll come. That way Elsa will feel safe and protected. Elsa’s mama takes his hand and thanks him and her daddy gives Elsa a hug. Somebody pass the insulin.
Stef tells Isa about her visit to see Blanca. They gloat a bit.
The padre is visiting castle San Ramon and Rocio tells him how Onelia thinks Blanca and JM were in cahoots to off Viv, which is making things complicated. They both say they plan to visit Blanca.
Mayita comes running out and greets them. She says she can’t wait for her mama to come home and bring her a baby brother. Mayita asks where Mari is and Rocio says remember how I told you she had to go? Mayita says everybody keeps leaving, my mama, Mari and now Blanca. Bummer.
JM’s lawyer comes to see him at work and tells him that the trial is next week. JM asks if he’s being accused. The lawyer says yes, Onelia’s bringing charges against both of them, and he wants to know if another psychiatrist could testify about the split personality thing. JM says no, he’s the only one qualified and the only one familiar with the case. Split personality is rare and he’s the only qualified person who has witnessed the Blanca/Ivette transformations. The lawyer says one big problem is that the victim was pregnant.
Blanca is mooshed into a corner in her cell. She’s anguishing as she remembers Stef saying she knows she (Blanca) is in love with JM. She falls to the ground, and grabs the bars. Is she transforming into Ivette? A guard pays no attention.
Nelson is out on a lounge on Elsa’s folks’ lawn, a blanket over him. Elsa asks if he’s comfy. He says it’s funny, he’s always scoffed about possessions and even emotions yet here he is surrounded by comfort and love.
Bea comes out with her baby and Elsa admires it and Nelson says it’s okay as babies go. Bea says that the baby was sickly at first because she didn’t take care of herself in her early pregnancy, but that wonderful Ed has everything back on track. She owes him so much! Elsa smiles bravely and looks at Nelson on his lounge.
Ivette has taken over. She frantically undoes her braid, pounds on the bars and demands to be let out. The guard runs off. She raves in French. The two detectives come and witness her raging and striking out between the bars, threatening to kill someone.
We’re in Grannyland. Granny says you just had a great time in Acapulco, so why the long face? Mayita says it looks like Mama’s gone again. Granny says you’ll have to get used to her being gone. Mayita says Blanca too. Granny says you have Rocio who takes care of you and your daddy who loves you – and Cuate too. Mayita wants to see Mari and the baby she promised. Granny says you need to have faith that things will work out for the best for you. (Yup, having your mama stabbed by your mentally ill nanny is just jim dandy.) She hugs and pets Mayita.
Becky the curly-haired art crowd lady has come to see Rocio. She said she came earlier but Rocio wasn’t there. Rocio says I must’ve gone out – things get so intense here. Becky studies her and says why are you deceiving Vicente? You don’t have time to see Vicente, but you go out with Dr. Tinoco.
Rocio says it’s depressing here and I’ll confess with Vicente too. I need to get away from all the suffering, get out, see people. Please understand – what’s wrong with that? Becky says do you have to do those things with Dr. Tinoco? Plus you don’t tell Vicente. Rocio says I don’t want to hurt him over nothing. Becky says talk to him and tell him the truth. Rocio says are you telling me to break off with him? Never. Balbina comes in and says telephone – Dr. Tinoco.
Leo is learning to hold MiniJM. Mari says he’s doing great and Cande applauds. Amazing that he knows enough to deliver a baby, but not to hold one. Leo makes the happy announcement that he and Mari are engaged and he asks for her hand. Cande is thrilled.
Rocio says to tell Dr. Tinoco that she’s sleeping. Becky says she’ll go, probably Rocio has private things to discuss with him, and she says she won’t tell Vicente. Rocio says he’s just a friend! Becky says but you have time for him and you ignore Vicente, who’s hurting because of you. Rocio says what about Vicente? He’s not even willing to get up and try. Becky says hmmm that’s what Dr. Tinoco said – you’ve learned his lesson well. Rocio says I swear there’s nothing between us. Maybe says Becky, but that could change.
Cande says she’ll give Leo not only Mari’s hand, but the whole girl. Leo is beaming and Mari is smiling big too, but there’s doubt behind her eyes.
At JM’s office, his secretary tells him Ed was called away to an out-of-town conference and won’t be back for 10 days. JM says Ed wanted to tell me something urgently, I guess that’s what it was. JM says to himself I have to get her out and then cure her. And then…
Mari tells Leo she doesn’t want to marry in a church. Leo says was your marriage in a church? and we get a long flashback to the JM/Mari wedding. Leo says we’ll be happy. She pats his hand. It’s a charming tableau: Leo holding the baby, Mari looking on and smiling, set in the lovely living room of the expansive hacienda she about to be the lady of, but we all know Something is Missing.
Now it’s just Mari and the baby in the living room and Mica rushes in all thrilled with the news. She tells Mari it’s the best decision that she’s made in her life. Mica raves about Leo’s big heart and how he’ll love and care for Mari the rest of his life. She gives Mari a big hug.
Mica says and your ex – will that be a shadow over your marriage? Mari says no, I need to forget him. Mica says I hope you can, for everyone’s good. Mica leaves and Mari wonders to Diosito if she’ll be able to forget.
JM is alone in his house and says to himself that he has to forget Mari.
Mari remembers JM rejecting her and telling her that Viv is alive and that their marriage apparently never really existed. Then she remembers his telling her a few days ago that he still loved her. She reaches for the phone.
JM answers but she doesn’t speak. Even without checking his caller ID, he knows it’s her. He says why don’t you talk? Even if you hate me… Mari hangs up on him.
Mari tells herself she has to forget him, he’ll never leave his wife and doesn’t know his son exists. She’s got to play fair with Leo who’s been so good to her and the baby. She asks God to help her not call just to hear JM’s voice. He has to be dead to her.
JM has gone to visit Blanca in her green cell. She is sleeping on the cement shelf – why doesn’t she have a bed or at least a blanket? She wakes and sees him.
Vicente’s mama is visiting him and tries to get him interested in painting again. He says he can’t go back to his old life, he has no interest. The door bell rings and she says maybe it’s Rocio. But it’s Becky, who sure seems like a way better deal lately the way she’s so attentive. Vicente says he’s sure Rocio will come. Becky says it’s probably best you learn to live without her. (Nice, Becky. When you get done here, you can go stomp on some baby chicks.)
Blanca is Blanca again and she says the police told her how she raged and threatened them, but she doesn’t remember any of it. JM asks how she feels and she says she hurts all over. He says mentally? She says she’s okay. He offers to take her to a hospital but she says no, Ivette would take advantage.
Becky tells Vicente that Rocio can’t stay cooped up all the time, so she’s going out. Vicente’s ma gestures for her to stop. Becky says Rocio loves you but she doesn’t want to spend her life with an invalid. Vicente’s ma says for heaven’s sake, Becky! Becky says the truth often hurts, but it’s better than lies. Sorry to tell you this she says and leaves. Vicente dissolves and his mother hugs him.
Blanca says Ivette could escape and wreak more havoc. Promise me you won’t let them move me from here. JM promises. He holds her.
Cande asks why Mari looks at her baby so sadly sometimes. Mari says JM doesn’t know about him. Cande says let’s have a heart-to heart: All these ideas swimming around in your head when you’re about to marry another man? Mari says last night I decided not to think about those things any more. Cande says you’re transparent. If you still love JM, why are you marrying El Leopardo?
Avances: the lawyer asks Blanca if there was anyone in her past who knew about her split personality and she says yes, a doctor. Omar.
Leo notes that Mari was crying and asks the padre if it has to do with the baby’s father. The padre says she says she doesn’t care for him anymore. Leo says I’m hoping so.
Mari wonders to herself why the padre asked if she’d go back to JM if he were available. Cande comes in and Mari says the padre is asking weird questions – what’s really up with JM? Cande dances around the subject, then asks if Mari’s decided whether they’ll stay or go back to the DF.
Elsa is at her folks’ house and she is telling her daddy that Nelson is a goner due to cirrhosis and doesn’t he think it would be very wrong for a wife to abandon a husband who is sliding into home plate? Her daddy just kisses her hand.
In the blue kitchen, the padre tells Mica about what he asked Mari, but says Mari just started crying, so probably she still loves JM. Mica tells her brother the padre how Leo has brightened up since Mari got there. Of course she’s on Team Leo so she says even if JM is free, his life is a mess, his wife, that French woman! She should marry Leo – she’ll fall in love with him over time since he’s such a great guy. Besides, everyone at the hacienda loves her. Let her stay! The padre pokes at his soup.
Later Mari asks the padre to tell her the truth, did something happen with JM? She’s had bad dreams and all, so she called JM and he said he still loves her. Mari says but he’s married…. The padre says ummm best to just be patient and don’t make any rash decisions. If you want to go back to JM maybe something can be arranged. Mari says yeah right. Anyway I don’t want to make my life so complicated. Know what? I think I’ll just stay here with Leo and my baby.
At castle San Ramon, Rocio is telling JM about how Onelia wants to dump her garbage on little Mayita, but Rocio’s standing guard. JM is worried that Onelia is going to make a lot of things public and that she’s going to smear him to Mayita. Rocio tells him the facts are on his side.
Elsa’s parents come to Nelson’s where they are talking to Elsa, but Nelson’s bed is empty. They say they want her to come home. She says I told you no. They say we mean both of you – Nelson too!
In the barn, Leo asks Mari if she’s going to leave. She says I’m here now. He says you’re like a dove that arrived in a storm. And when the dove’s nest isn’t needed anymore, she flies off, not just to the trees in the garden, but far off, so far away nobody sees her anymore. Leo says I don’t know when you’ll leave. Mari says I’m going to stay here with you. Leo is stunned. He says it’s like a dream. He takes Mari’s hand and she pats his like it’s a business shake.
Rocio hints to JM what about Mari? He says it hurts him to remember her and guess what she called yesterday. Rocio is jazzed. JM says I told her I still love her, but she said she’s moved on. Rocio says don’t believe it. JM says our home situation is rough right now, it’s not the right time.
Leo is declaring his devotion and Mari says I know. You saved me and the baby, so our lives properly belong to you. Leo turns serious and says it is just gratitude? You’re not staying because of love? If so, never mind. Mari says no it’s not gratitude and do you think I’d be the only woman on earth who wouldn’t fall for you? He gives her a happy hug and kisses the top of her head. You pick the date he says and Mari looks hesitant.
Now Nelson is back in the room and he thanks Elsa’s parents and says he’ll come. That way Elsa will feel safe and protected. Elsa’s mama takes his hand and thanks him and her daddy gives Elsa a hug. Somebody pass the insulin.
Stef tells Isa about her visit to see Blanca. They gloat a bit.
The padre is visiting castle San Ramon and Rocio tells him how Onelia thinks Blanca and JM were in cahoots to off Viv, which is making things complicated. They both say they plan to visit Blanca.
Mayita comes running out and greets them. She says she can’t wait for her mama to come home and bring her a baby brother. Mayita asks where Mari is and Rocio says remember how I told you she had to go? Mayita says everybody keeps leaving, my mama, Mari and now Blanca. Bummer.
JM’s lawyer comes to see him at work and tells him that the trial is next week. JM asks if he’s being accused. The lawyer says yes, Onelia’s bringing charges against both of them, and he wants to know if another psychiatrist could testify about the split personality thing. JM says no, he’s the only one qualified and the only one familiar with the case. Split personality is rare and he’s the only qualified person who has witnessed the Blanca/Ivette transformations. The lawyer says one big problem is that the victim was pregnant.
Blanca is mooshed into a corner in her cell. She’s anguishing as she remembers Stef saying she knows she (Blanca) is in love with JM. She falls to the ground, and grabs the bars. Is she transforming into Ivette? A guard pays no attention.
Nelson is out on a lounge on Elsa’s folks’ lawn, a blanket over him. Elsa asks if he’s comfy. He says it’s funny, he’s always scoffed about possessions and even emotions yet here he is surrounded by comfort and love.
Bea comes out with her baby and Elsa admires it and Nelson says it’s okay as babies go. Bea says that the baby was sickly at first because she didn’t take care of herself in her early pregnancy, but that wonderful Ed has everything back on track. She owes him so much! Elsa smiles bravely and looks at Nelson on his lounge.
Ivette has taken over. She frantically undoes her braid, pounds on the bars and demands to be let out. The guard runs off. She raves in French. The two detectives come and witness her raging and striking out between the bars, threatening to kill someone.
We’re in Grannyland. Granny says you just had a great time in Acapulco, so why the long face? Mayita says it looks like Mama’s gone again. Granny says you’ll have to get used to her being gone. Mayita says Blanca too. Granny says you have Rocio who takes care of you and your daddy who loves you – and Cuate too. Mayita wants to see Mari and the baby she promised. Granny says you need to have faith that things will work out for the best for you. (Yup, having your mama stabbed by your mentally ill nanny is just jim dandy.) She hugs and pets Mayita.
Becky the curly-haired art crowd lady has come to see Rocio. She said she came earlier but Rocio wasn’t there. Rocio says I must’ve gone out – things get so intense here. Becky studies her and says why are you deceiving Vicente? You don’t have time to see Vicente, but you go out with Dr. Tinoco.
Rocio says it’s depressing here and I’ll confess with Vicente too. I need to get away from all the suffering, get out, see people. Please understand – what’s wrong with that? Becky says do you have to do those things with Dr. Tinoco? Plus you don’t tell Vicente. Rocio says I don’t want to hurt him over nothing. Becky says talk to him and tell him the truth. Rocio says are you telling me to break off with him? Never. Balbina comes in and says telephone – Dr. Tinoco.
Leo is learning to hold MiniJM. Mari says he’s doing great and Cande applauds. Amazing that he knows enough to deliver a baby, but not to hold one. Leo makes the happy announcement that he and Mari are engaged and he asks for her hand. Cande is thrilled.
Rocio says to tell Dr. Tinoco that she’s sleeping. Becky says she’ll go, probably Rocio has private things to discuss with him, and she says she won’t tell Vicente. Rocio says he’s just a friend! Becky says but you have time for him and you ignore Vicente, who’s hurting because of you. Rocio says what about Vicente? He’s not even willing to get up and try. Becky says hmmm that’s what Dr. Tinoco said – you’ve learned his lesson well. Rocio says I swear there’s nothing between us. Maybe says Becky, but that could change.
Cande says she’ll give Leo not only Mari’s hand, but the whole girl. Leo is beaming and Mari is smiling big too, but there’s doubt behind her eyes.
At JM’s office, his secretary tells him Ed was called away to an out-of-town conference and won’t be back for 10 days. JM says Ed wanted to tell me something urgently, I guess that’s what it was. JM says to himself I have to get her out and then cure her. And then…
Mari tells Leo she doesn’t want to marry in a church. Leo says was your marriage in a church? and we get a long flashback to the JM/Mari wedding. Leo says we’ll be happy. She pats his hand. It’s a charming tableau: Leo holding the baby, Mari looking on and smiling, set in the lovely living room of the expansive hacienda she about to be the lady of, but we all know Something is Missing.
Now it’s just Mari and the baby in the living room and Mica rushes in all thrilled with the news. She tells Mari it’s the best decision that she’s made in her life. Mica raves about Leo’s big heart and how he’ll love and care for Mari the rest of his life. She gives Mari a big hug.
Mica says and your ex – will that be a shadow over your marriage? Mari says no, I need to forget him. Mica says I hope you can, for everyone’s good. Mica leaves and Mari wonders to Diosito if she’ll be able to forget.
JM is alone in his house and says to himself that he has to forget Mari.
Mari remembers JM rejecting her and telling her that Viv is alive and that their marriage apparently never really existed. Then she remembers his telling her a few days ago that he still loved her. She reaches for the phone.
JM answers but she doesn’t speak. Even without checking his caller ID, he knows it’s her. He says why don’t you talk? Even if you hate me… Mari hangs up on him.
Mari tells herself she has to forget him, he’ll never leave his wife and doesn’t know his son exists. She’s got to play fair with Leo who’s been so good to her and the baby. She asks God to help her not call just to hear JM’s voice. He has to be dead to her.
JM has gone to visit Blanca in her green cell. She is sleeping on the cement shelf – why doesn’t she have a bed or at least a blanket? She wakes and sees him.
Vicente’s mama is visiting him and tries to get him interested in painting again. He says he can’t go back to his old life, he has no interest. The door bell rings and she says maybe it’s Rocio. But it’s Becky, who sure seems like a way better deal lately the way she’s so attentive. Vicente says he’s sure Rocio will come. Becky says it’s probably best you learn to live without her. (Nice, Becky. When you get done here, you can go stomp on some baby chicks.)
Blanca is Blanca again and she says the police told her how she raged and threatened them, but she doesn’t remember any of it. JM asks how she feels and she says she hurts all over. He says mentally? She says she’s okay. He offers to take her to a hospital but she says no, Ivette would take advantage.
Becky tells Vicente that Rocio can’t stay cooped up all the time, so she’s going out. Vicente’s ma gestures for her to stop. Becky says Rocio loves you but she doesn’t want to spend her life with an invalid. Vicente’s ma says for heaven’s sake, Becky! Becky says the truth often hurts, but it’s better than lies. Sorry to tell you this she says and leaves. Vicente dissolves and his mother hugs him.
Blanca says Ivette could escape and wreak more havoc. Promise me you won’t let them move me from here. JM promises. He holds her.
Cande asks why Mari looks at her baby so sadly sometimes. Mari says JM doesn’t know about him. Cande says let’s have a heart-to heart: All these ideas swimming around in your head when you’re about to marry another man? Mari says last night I decided not to think about those things any more. Cande says you’re transparent. If you still love JM, why are you marrying El Leopardo?
Avances: the lawyer asks Blanca if there was anyone in her past who knew about her split personality and she says yes, a doctor. Omar.
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Loved the "but we all know Something is Wrong". Wonderful ironic summation of every dang episode in this one...and any of these.
Don't know how Onelia could bring charges. In a civil action yes. But in this case, it's the police who have to bring charges. Oh well...telenovala judicial procedure.
Really impressed with the actress who plays Blanca/Ivette. Saw her in Amor Real and she was good but she really brings it on in this one, playing out the struggle between the two personalities.
Makes poor old William Levy look like a wooden Indian, (but such a nicely sculpted Indian, I guess we don't care).
Don't know how Onelia could bring charges. In a civil action yes. But in this case, it's the police who have to bring charges. Oh well...telenovala judicial procedure.
Really impressed with the actress who plays Blanca/Ivette. Saw her in Amor Real and she was good but she really brings it on in this one, playing out the struggle between the two personalities.
Makes poor old William Levy look like a wooden Indian, (but such a nicely sculpted Indian, I guess we don't care).
Thanks Maggie. I cracked up with the "Leo knows how to deliver a baby but not to hold one". It seemss he is also an expert on split personality disorders and the Blanca/Ivette situation, but somehow didn't recognize Blanca's picture in the newspaper.
This novela seems disjointed to me with a confusing time sequence so I'm hoping it comes together when Leo is drawn into the DF stuff. Whether or not I stick with the show, I agree with JudyB about Maya Mishalska's superb acting job. She is chilling as the malevolent Ivette and so vulnerable as the cowering Blanca.
This novela seems disjointed to me with a confusing time sequence so I'm hoping it comes together when Leo is drawn into the DF stuff. Whether or not I stick with the show, I agree with JudyB about Maya Mishalska's superb acting job. She is chilling as the malevolent Ivette and so vulnerable as the cowering Blanca.
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: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 8:03:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 8:03:00 AM EST
Thanks for the recap Maggie. We are now firmly entrenched in the part of the novela I can't stand... suffer, suffer, suffer with the poor protagonist who love each other so much they are willing to give up their love. I don't know what's worse their suffering or all "their friends" who encourage their bad decision. Sigh
Yes the actress who plays Blanca/Yvette is great. I remember her from Pasion.
Yes the actress who plays Blanca/Yvette is great. I remember her from Pasion.
Maggie, outstanding recap. You answered many questions I had on the epiosode. Thank you!
I'm changing from Team Leo to Team Neutral. If Mari were any more unethusiastic about Leo she wouldn't have a pulse. It's very obvious she doesn't love him (at least not now) and Leo deserves to be loved as he loves. While I applaud JM's realization that it is unwise and unsafe to bring Mari back now, he should have given her an indication that things will work out and ask for time.
Nelson's illness is bringing about spiritual and emotional growth and reconcilation. I never thought Elsa's parents would open their hearts and homes to Nelson, but they have. I thought last night was very touching. Elsa is also maturing and will ensure Nelson is comfortable until the end. Nelson himself seems to be more peaceful as well. It's a shame imminent death is what brought everyone together.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that Rocio is losing interest in Vincente. She protests she loves and cares about him but obviously does prefer the doctor's company. When Becky told Vincente that Rocio didn't want to be with Vincente because he was an invalid was it because she was telling it as she saw it or because she wants Vincente for herself? The character hasn't been around much so I couldn't tell. Diana in MA
I'm changing from Team Leo to Team Neutral. If Mari were any more unethusiastic about Leo she wouldn't have a pulse. It's very obvious she doesn't love him (at least not now) and Leo deserves to be loved as he loves. While I applaud JM's realization that it is unwise and unsafe to bring Mari back now, he should have given her an indication that things will work out and ask for time.
Nelson's illness is bringing about spiritual and emotional growth and reconcilation. I never thought Elsa's parents would open their hearts and homes to Nelson, but they have. I thought last night was very touching. Elsa is also maturing and will ensure Nelson is comfortable until the end. Nelson himself seems to be more peaceful as well. It's a shame imminent death is what brought everyone together.
Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that Rocio is losing interest in Vincente. She protests she loves and cares about him but obviously does prefer the doctor's company. When Becky told Vincente that Rocio didn't want to be with Vincente because he was an invalid was it because she was telling it as she saw it or because she wants Vincente for herself? The character hasn't been around much so I couldn't tell. Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 16, 2009 at 11:46:00 AM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 11:46:00 AM EST
Maggie I forgot to mention I loved your title.
As usual Diana I love your observations. Though I'm not on Team Leo, I really like Leo and, like you, believe he should have someone who loves him completely and not potentially on the rebound. Hence I can't really be excited about Mari and him being together b/c he deserves better. If Blanca could rid herself of Yvette (which will probably happen through our hapless doc JM), then she will probably be worthy for Leo.
And these shameless writers will have us go through weeks of JM being with Blanca b/c he's in love with him (and not a harpy like his wife and novias) while Mari will stay with Leo for the same reason. Sigh.
ITA with you Diana regarding Nelson also. Unfortunately its often tragic that brings us to see what is important in life.
Regarding Becky, I'm not sure what her motives are. The few times we did she her she was hanging around Nelson or Israel. She may be trying to get Vicente for herself but the writers haven't made her motives clear.
As usual Diana I love your observations. Though I'm not on Team Leo, I really like Leo and, like you, believe he should have someone who loves him completely and not potentially on the rebound. Hence I can't really be excited about Mari and him being together b/c he deserves better. If Blanca could rid herself of Yvette (which will probably happen through our hapless doc JM), then she will probably be worthy for Leo.
And these shameless writers will have us go through weeks of JM being with Blanca b/c he's in love with him (and not a harpy like his wife and novias) while Mari will stay with Leo for the same reason. Sigh.
ITA with you Diana regarding Nelson also. Unfortunately its often tragic that brings us to see what is important in life.
Regarding Becky, I'm not sure what her motives are. The few times we did she her she was hanging around Nelson or Israel. She may be trying to get Vicente for herself but the writers haven't made her motives clear.
Becky may really like Vincente but I thought she was trying to shake him out of his malaise by her blunt approach.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 16, 2009 at 12:38:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 12:38:00 PM EST
I just saw the end of this at lunchtime and I thought Becky's strategy was to try and shock Vicente out of his self-pity and victimization. If he has to fight for Rocio, maybe he'll make an effort to get out of that wheelchair and accept physical therapy.
Of course her motivations could be murkier than that, but I didn't get the impression she had designs on him. Though in telenovelas they love these multiple triangles. Who knows?
Of course her motivations could be murkier than that, but I didn't get the impression she had designs on him. Though in telenovelas they love these multiple triangles. Who knows?
Great recap, Maggie.
I'm getting really frustrated with everyone hiding the truth from Marichuy. Why do they all treat her like some delicate flower? After the hard life she's had, she really has better coping skills than most people, plus she is a normal, capable adult, so why do they all want her to make decisions without having the relevant information? I hope she really lets them all have it when she finds out that all the people she trusts have been lying to her.
And why hasn't Eduardo told Juan Miguel that he doesn't think Viv was pregnant? How long does it take to leave a message about something that is vital to the imminent trial?
Okay, I'm ranting, but I still like watching this show. If I wasn't so sucked in I wouldn't care if these people were awful to each other. Maya Mishalska is truly excellent, and watching Leo it's hard to believe it's the same actor who was the evil pharmaceutical kingpin in ASL.
Okay, a question: when you're thrown in jail (in general? in Mexico? in Novelaland?) do you really have to wear the same clothes the whole time you're there? Do you even get to wash stuff, or do you have to hang out in the same socks and underwear you've had on for weeks? It really bothers me that Blanca is still in that nurse uniform. And with no blanket, even.
I'm getting really frustrated with everyone hiding the truth from Marichuy. Why do they all treat her like some delicate flower? After the hard life she's had, she really has better coping skills than most people, plus she is a normal, capable adult, so why do they all want her to make decisions without having the relevant information? I hope she really lets them all have it when she finds out that all the people she trusts have been lying to her.
And why hasn't Eduardo told Juan Miguel that he doesn't think Viv was pregnant? How long does it take to leave a message about something that is vital to the imminent trial?
Okay, I'm ranting, but I still like watching this show. If I wasn't so sucked in I wouldn't care if these people were awful to each other. Maya Mishalska is truly excellent, and watching Leo it's hard to believe it's the same actor who was the evil pharmaceutical kingpin in ASL.
Okay, a question: when you're thrown in jail (in general? in Mexico? in Novelaland?) do you really have to wear the same clothes the whole time you're there? Do you even get to wash stuff, or do you have to hang out in the same socks and underwear you've had on for weeks? It really bothers me that Blanca is still in that nurse uniform. And with no blanket, even.
How did I miss this episode? I put the TV on 8 and Georgie Porgie was on! I guess the show came on after his farewell speech. Was in NYC a few days seeing plays and Letterman and missed the show all week, so was really looking forward to a dose of JM last night. Tonight, I hope!
Julia, I agree, Blanca should at least have been given the standard prison jumpsuit. She must be freezing. I don't understand either Ed not relaying this vital piece of information about the pregnancy test to JM. It's crucial!!
So, do you think this will be the reason Leo and the clan arrive back in the DF, to be an expert witness for Blanca/Ivette? I've missed so much this week!
Julia, I agree, Blanca should at least have been given the standard prison jumpsuit. She must be freezing. I don't understand either Ed not relaying this vital piece of information about the pregnancy test to JM. It's crucial!!
So, do you think this will be the reason Leo and the clan arrive back in the DF, to be an expert witness for Blanca/Ivette? I've missed so much this week!
To me it seem that the writers continue to portray Marichuy as if she were an adolescent. She may be street wise and resilient but her mannerisms, dress, expressions, reactions all remind me of a kid so I can see why people around her treat her that way. I still find it hard to believe that two accomplished, wealthy men (doctors no less) would want to marry her. She can barely read or write. This is not a putdown of Mari as she has beauty and her own charm but it just seems unlikely. It's possible that she'll still get the Eliza Dolittle treatment before it's over.
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 16, 2009 at 2:51:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 2:51:00 PM EST
Thank you for the recap, Maggie. There were some things I missed or had questions about and you covered them. I'm amazed how I can now actually understand some of the dialog especially when it's Onelia, JM, Estefi or Leo speaking. I'm still very challenged by Mari.
I have been watching every night even though I haven't commented lately. I'm kinda bored with the Mari/Leo thing. I have to say though, I think Maite is really doing a good job of conveying her "I won't say it but I only feel gratitude towards Leo, nothing else". She makes me believe that she can't stand anyone else hugging her or kissing her but JM. Either that or Maite really can't stand being touched by Rene in real life. But I think it's just credible acting.
I think JM is finally thinking when he said it's not a good time to try to convince Mari to come home. He's actually being protective of Mari (I wonder though why he's not protecting Rocio and Mayita much). But I think, given the chance, if Mari didn't elude him so much and didn't hang the phone up on him every chance she got, he would have dragged her home with him in an instant.
Anyway, I think what they really need is some time alone so they can hash everything out. Hear that writers? Your viewers are bored and would like to request some JM/Mari interaction. =)
JT
I have been watching every night even though I haven't commented lately. I'm kinda bored with the Mari/Leo thing. I have to say though, I think Maite is really doing a good job of conveying her "I won't say it but I only feel gratitude towards Leo, nothing else". She makes me believe that she can't stand anyone else hugging her or kissing her but JM. Either that or Maite really can't stand being touched by Rene in real life. But I think it's just credible acting.
I think JM is finally thinking when he said it's not a good time to try to convince Mari to come home. He's actually being protective of Mari (I wonder though why he's not protecting Rocio and Mayita much). But I think, given the chance, if Mari didn't elude him so much and didn't hang the phone up on him every chance she got, he would have dragged her home with him in an instant.
Anyway, I think what they really need is some time alone so they can hash everything out. Hear that writers? Your viewers are bored and would like to request some JM/Mari interaction. =)
JT
Thanks for the recaps to Gloria and Maggie. Loved the snark ;)
Re: Onelia bringing charges – not sure if this is true in Mexico or if it’s just something that happens in TNs, but having family members hire a prosecuting attorney in murders has been a plot device for ages. Alas, I have no knowledge of the legal system as I’ve never known anyone arrested for murder. Guess that’s probably a good thing ;)
As for Becky, whether for Rocio or for herself, I did get the impression she was trying to light a fire under him. If her plan was simple to get him, she wouldn’t have taken off after dropping her bombshell.
I’m with Julia and Violet. If Ed didn’t get a chance to tell him and had to run out of town, how about a call? A telegram? Smoke Signals? WTF!!! As for Blanca, I was also thinking they should have issued her some prison clothes by now. I mean, she’s supposed to be there for a while.
Re: Onelia bringing charges – not sure if this is true in Mexico or if it’s just something that happens in TNs, but having family members hire a prosecuting attorney in murders has been a plot device for ages. Alas, I have no knowledge of the legal system as I’ve never known anyone arrested for murder. Guess that’s probably a good thing ;)
As for Becky, whether for Rocio or for herself, I did get the impression she was trying to light a fire under him. If her plan was simple to get him, she wouldn’t have taken off after dropping her bombshell.
I’m with Julia and Violet. If Ed didn’t get a chance to tell him and had to run out of town, how about a call? A telegram? Smoke Signals? WTF!!! As for Blanca, I was also thinking they should have issued her some prison clothes by now. I mean, she’s supposed to be there for a while.
I'm still watching this only maybe once a week, and I did not watch this one. We had too much excitement with the plane crash here!
Not only is Marichuy still in her lower-class mode, they should have come up with a new costume for her. This is supposed to be a new etapa.
Not only is Marichuy still in her lower-class mode, they should have come up with a new costume for her. This is supposed to be a new etapa.
I agree; Marichuy should be in different clothes. At the very least in full-length shirts, although I did think it was funny when she herself made a comment about how her figure snapped back so fast. Not so believable. I haven't noticed her feet. Has she at least given up the flip-flops for something more suited to the countryside? Has she just been going around barefoot?
Regardless of Becky's motivations, I think she was a little too harsh with Vicente. Especially telling him that Rocio didn't want to spend time with an invalid. Rocio didn't say she minded that he was disabled; what she said bothered her was that he wasn't doing anything. Neither rehabilitation nor getting on with his life.
Regardless of Becky's motivations, I think she was a little too harsh with Vicente. Especially telling him that Rocio didn't want to spend time with an invalid. Rocio didn't say she minded that he was disabled; what she said bothered her was that he wasn't doing anything. Neither rehabilitation nor getting on with his life.
What do you mean when you say the DF?
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 16, 2009 at 9:38:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 9:38:00 PM EST
The DF is aka Mexico City DF, ("Distrito Federal").
Permalink posted by : Friday, January 16, 2009 at 11:52:00 PM EST
: Friday, January 16, 2009 at 11:52:00 PM EST
I was gone all day yesterday, so I couldn’t comment. Usually recapping is really fun, but I just couldn’t get into Thursday’s episode as I was so frustrated with the writers. Almost every character is either lying or hiding some truth and it’s exasperating. I realize that there’s a lot of this in novelas, but this one takes the cake. And there are ridiculous plot devices, like Ed (who must have a Blackberry) who can’t tell JM (who we never see checking e-mail, but who does have a phone) that he’s out of town.
To back up, we’ve had to believe that Mari was on TV but nobody recognized her afterwards; then there’s Nelson who had no sign of being a drinker suddenly being at death’s door, Amador magically becoming a Televisa director (who can drop everything and make a long drive to the country at the drop of a hat), and Stef who pissed JM off big time still being welcome at castle San Ramon, and also being told intimacies by Ceci who thinks she’s a fraud. Etc. Etc.
I sure do miss the writers on Guapos who seemed to have an inexhaustible stream of clever plot ideas.
To back up, we’ve had to believe that Mari was on TV but nobody recognized her afterwards; then there’s Nelson who had no sign of being a drinker suddenly being at death’s door, Amador magically becoming a Televisa director (who can drop everything and make a long drive to the country at the drop of a hat), and Stef who pissed JM off big time still being welcome at castle San Ramon, and also being told intimacies by Ceci who thinks she’s a fraud. Etc. Etc.
I sure do miss the writers on Guapos who seemed to have an inexhaustible stream of clever plot ideas.
I wish Becky would give her "it's better to tell the truth" speech to JuanMi, Mari, PA, Rocio...pretty much all our favorite characters. These actors are great though. Even when the plot gets wacky - well, sometimes ridiculous - they make it believable.
Even I was feelin' Team Leo but this isn't the way it's supposed to go down! Now I just need everyone to see how clearly not excited Marichuy is and stop pushing her to marry Leo. Ugh, why couldn't someone just spill the beans about Viv? Well, that would solve maybe half our problems and we'd have had a lot fewer episodes. I kid, I kid, because even with its crazy plot devices I'm still hooked on this show and totally invested in seeing the OTP end up together. These recaps make it more fun, too.
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Even I was feelin' Team Leo but this isn't the way it's supposed to go down! Now I just need everyone to see how clearly not excited Marichuy is and stop pushing her to marry Leo. Ugh, why couldn't someone just spill the beans about Viv? Well, that would solve maybe half our problems and we'd have had a lot fewer episodes. I kid, I kid, because even with its crazy plot devices I'm still hooked on this show and totally invested in seeing the OTP end up together. These recaps make it more fun, too.
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