Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Las tontas no van, #27, 1/12, The world tries to knock sense into Santiago.
Reminder from Friday: Candy is angry at Santiago because he tried to take advantage of her vulnerability when she came to cry on his shoulder. Raúl enters. Candy dances over to give him a flagrant hug, and she emphasizes that she and Raúl are novios. Santiago looks like he swallowed a poodle. Raúl is more than happy to play along, but Santi refuses to believe it. Raúl triumphantly walks out with Candy, while Santiago goes down the hall mumbling “sassafras sassafras.”
In his office, he sneaks up on Hortensia sighing for his photo. He asks her to bring him coffee, black without sugar, bitter like life. She presses up against him and asks if he wants aaaaaanything else. She tries to kiss him and is thwarted. I think Camil goes blank on his lines for just a moment (“where was I?”), someone off-camera prompts him, then he waves for them to stop because he’s back on track. He mumbles, trying to convince himself that Candy couldn’t possibly be happy with Raúl, but he is still bothered.
At a restaurant, Raúl asks Candy how telling Santiago that they are novios will help his sister. She says it’s because Santiago is a womanizer, and she apologizes for getting so close to Raúl in order to lie to Santiago. Raúl says he loved it, and he would love to make that lie into the truth. Candy firmly insists, they’re only friends, but Raúl presses a bit more before he relents.
Santi calls Marissa, “Why didn’t you tell me Raúl and Candy are novios?” Marissa is thrilled by the news. She suggests that they celebrate with some whoopie at his house, and he is scandalized by the idea because his daughters are around. He hangs up, cries out for hismommy Hortensia, and asks her to make a run to the drugstore, probably Farmacias Del Ahorro. Taking advantage of his vulnerability, Hortensia tries again for some special attention. He considers it then shakes it off, but suspects that one day she‘ll catch him in a moment of weakness and he‘ll “do her a favor.”
Lucía is at Charly’s house and finds out that no one else is home. He invites her up to his room. She resists, but not very hard.
Donato lets Marissa sneak in, but she short-pays his bribe. Bad idea to get on the bad side of the guy who holds the keys. Upstairs, Santiago is scolding the mirror with his frustrations about Candy. Marissa, dressed in only a towel, surprises him. He tries to back away – “not here at my house,” – falls down the steps, gets knocked out, and hallucinates about all the good times with Candy. He has a huge smile when Marissa brings him around, because he was “with an angel.”
(Note, I merged some broken-up scenes here, for the sake of continuity.) At the institute, Marissa asks Bárbara for any news. Cece discovers that Barb is Marissa’s spy. Mar runs up and gives Candy a big hug, so excited that they are cuñadas (sisters-in-law). Note, in Mexico, the in-law relationships include novios, not just married couples. Candy tells her to not take this too fast, but Marissa still calls Raúl about the report. He breaks the news – it’s just a ruse to make Santiago stop chasing Candy.
I wonder if the writers are preparing us for a turning point. Friday it was made resoundingly clear that Santiago only wanted Candy as a mistress. In his office, Candy told him point blank, that if all his romantic words were true, he wouldn’t still be with Marissa. In other words, put up or shut up, Vaquero! Santi’s response? He came extremely close to intent to rape (“Te voy a hacer el amor!” he shouts, “I WILL make love to you,” as he unbuttons his shirt.). These are NOT steps toward winning a wife! Next Marissa requests that if he’s not sure he wants her, set her free. She left the door wide open. Santiago’s response? Kiss her goodbye? No! He didn’t because he wants Marissa as his novia and Candy as his mistress. And just for good measure, in the very next scene Candy asks Isabel about her son being such a womanizer. The point is clear: Santi just wants Candy in bed, and might even resort to force. He’s a bum!
But now, Santi is talking to Donato so obviously his words are not calculated to seduce Candy. He pours out his confusion and emotional turmoil. His key point: “Candy makes me a different man; the man I really am.” Perhaps this marks the start of Santiago’s change.
He says, “When Paulina abandoned me, I felt like I was condemned to be alone. Alone when I sleep, alone when I eat lunch, it’s like I‘m alone in every part of my being. The light went out. Like a shadow always over me, that doesn’t let me breath. Every day. But with Candy that doesn’t happen. With her, everything is happy. When I see her, when I hear about her, when I think about her, when we’re on the phone, when we joke around, when I kiss her, I don’t feel abandoned or alone or suffocated – as if I have to run outside to be able to breath. With Candy I don’t have to run away. She makes me a different man, the man I really am. Not what I pretend to be, but what I am. No masks. I dream about her every night.”
Donato answers, “Where I come from (en mi pueblo), that means you’re in love, Patron.” Santiago sits back and agrees, pondering the weight of that. He likes it. He really, really likes it. Hey Mikey!
In the institute’s bathroom, Cece confronts Bárbara for spying on Candy. Bárbara tells her to butt out or she’ll tell Candy about the roses. Just then Candy walks in and wants to know, “What about the roses?”
At Pat’s office, Alicia is trying another scheme: She and Pat should move back to Mexico City to get a fresh start, and they should take Beto along. “After all, we could give him a better life than his mother.” Pat tells her that is out of the question, and that he is trying to make things right in his life.
Isabel comes into the kitchen to talk to Donato. Santi discovers that his mama is having a dinner party with Candy(!), and she will have a surprise announcement.
Charly and Lucía are making out (fully clothed) on Charly’s bed, when they hear Meño arrive home. Lucía hides under the bed. Meño sees her but doesn’t say anything.
Santiago is on the phone with Marissa, explaining that tonight is his weekly date with Rocío; they’re going out for pizza, movie, and “rollo (boring stuff?).” Marissa can come along if she wants; of course she doesn’t want. Phew! He’s actually getting ready for tonight’s dinner with Candy, and he tried on three suits before he settled on this one. He pays off Donato to make extra sure that Marissa is kept out of the house tonight. Is anyone else shocked by how bad he looks in a suit? Is it the drab, crooked tie? The plain white shirt? A bad fit? The wild chinos (curls)?
Charly gets home and Meño is waiting. He saw the feet under the bed, and he remembers what it was like to be that age. Charly confesses he’s a virgin. Meño reminds him of the importance of using a condom. In other words, it’s okay to steal her heart; just be safe about it.
Pat sees Lulu at the restaurant and remembers her from the fake Rojiblanca picture. He asks Lulu to take him to the genuine article. She refuses, but with just the slightest bit of flirting, Pat gets her cooperation. And the address of the institute.
Candy arrives at Santiago’s for the dinner, and he’s just glowing, looking forward to dinner alone with his favorite dish. Just then Raúl walks in, and Santiago reprises his swallowed-a-poodle face. Raúl notes that something seems to be bothering Santiago. Santi adamantly denies anything is wrong, through clenched teeth, spitting poodle hairs. Isabel joins the little group and enjoys seeing her son tormented. Candy and Raúl trade big Ultrabright smiles, just to stick the knife in a little deeper.
How ironic. Candy has Raúl at her side to keep Santiago at bay, but Isabel has other ideas. She is no dummy, de ninguna manera. She knows somebody needs to light a fire under Santi – a bright green fire – so that he stops playing around and starts seriously trying to win Candy, for keeps. Nothing like a rival to light that bright green fire in Santiago’s eyes.
At dinner, Santi looks like he just went six rounds with Evander Holyfield, and Isabel doesn’t even give him time to recover between punches. “You make a lovely couple. When’s the wedding?” Notice that Santi doesn’t drink to the happy couple? Raúl makes goo-goo eyes, Candy affirms that Raúl won’t be an abandonado any more, and Santi looks sicker. I think that poodle didn’t agree with him. Then Isabel announces that she is going to be a partner in the institute (the rival of her son’s practice) and Santi excuses himself from the table. I think that poodle isn’t going to stay down.
Meño again reminds Charly of the importance of using a condom. Charly mentions that sometimes his papa moves like he’s gay.
Isabel bids Candy and Raúl goodnight; Santiago is conspicuous by his absence. Candy worries that since Isabel became her partner, that will create problems with her son.
Ole complains to Sven that he’s serving all the tables, and Sven isn’t doing anything. But Sven has a good excuse – he’s improving himself by taking a correspondence course – how to become the best kisser in Mexico.
Isabel comes into Santiago’s room and tells him, “You’re not feeling indigestion, but jealousy. It’s very hard to find the woman of your dreams. That’s why they call it ‘the other half of the orange.’ It’s her or no one. Your father was my other half of the orange. He was everything to me. You feel like you’ve found yours and she’s very close. (Santiago nods agreement.) But if you don’t do anything to win her…” Isabel walks out of the room, leaving Santiago to decide how he wants to finish her last sentence.
Raúl takes Candy home and tries to invite himself in for coffee; nothing doing. He again tries to convert their novios charade into reality; nothing doing. Candy finds Meño inconsolable at the kitchen table. He’s afraid that Charly will find out he’s gay, and if he finds out, he’ll hate him for the rest of his life. Candy reminds him that he told her (and she chokes on the words) that a person can’t live a life hiding behind lies. Meño asks Candy to make him as macho as Pedro Infante and Vicente Fernandez combined.
Santiago woke up Donato to help him think. He’s desperate to find a strategy so he can be alone with Candy. He’s sure that if he just had two days with her, he could get her into my arms. Donato jokes that they only way that would happen is if her house were rat-infested. Santiago gets excited – he thinks that’s a GREAT idea!
As Chava is getting ready for school, he and his mom talk more about bedwetting and the difference between boys and girls.
Alicia runs into Soledad in a parking lot. Literally! Sol tells Ali to quit telling Beto to call her “Mama.” Ali tells her that Pat is thinking about bringing Beto to live with them so he’ll have a better life. I would beg to differ with that conclusion. Better to live in a corner of a roof than in a house shared with a contentious woman; Prove. 21:9. Better a bit of dry bread in peace, than a house full of feasting and violent behavior; Prove. 17:1.
At school, the kids try to figure out how many mothers and fathers you are supposed to have.
Pat walks into the institute looking for Rojiblanca. He greets Lulu and almost sees Candy. Lulu runs to Candy’s office, and Candy begs/demands the she do something. Back in reception, Pat flirts some more and almost breaks Lulu’s resolve. Just then, in walks Soledad, whom Lulu presents to Pat as Rojiblanca and shoos them out of the office. When Candy hears what happened, she orders Lulu to pull Soledad aside and explain the plot to her. “After all,” Candy says, “this whole thing is your fault, Lulu.” Lulu points out a few fallacies of logic in that supposition, forcing Candy to quickly change the subject.
Can we take a quick inventory here? Candy has been called Dona Mantra (Madame Liar), but I think she is also La Reyna de los Pedidos (the queen of requests). Remember when Santiago complained, “Pides, pides, y nada cambia (you ask and ask, and nothing changes).” Who has she asked favors from, thus far?
And what has Candy done for other people? Um, um, I’m thinking. Don’t rush me.
Sven tells Ole he will allow Ole to buy his first lesson in becoming an expert kisser.
I really liked the hamsters scene, shot through their yellow plastic habitat. The cute young salesman has a certain spark. Unlike most actors, he doesn’t fade into the background when he shares a frame with Jaime Camil! Santiago is just glowing with anticipation of a successful plot. He asks the muchacho how many hamsters he has - twenty. Santi says he’ll take them all!
At a café, Soledad tells Pat how upset she is because of her encounter with Alicia. She says she won’t let Pat take her son to DF, and Pat assures her he has no such intention. His wife is a little.. not all there. He tells Soledad that Rojiblanca awakens certain feelings in him, and now that he knows that she is Rojiblanca, how about if they spend more time together?
Tomorrow: Candy’s family is driven out of their home by a rodent infestation, and guess who is there to offer them a temporary home?
In his office, he sneaks up on Hortensia sighing for his photo. He asks her to bring him coffee, black without sugar, bitter like life. She presses up against him and asks if he wants aaaaaanything else. She tries to kiss him and is thwarted. I think Camil goes blank on his lines for just a moment (“where was I?”), someone off-camera prompts him, then he waves for them to stop because he’s back on track. He mumbles, trying to convince himself that Candy couldn’t possibly be happy with Raúl, but he is still bothered.
At a restaurant, Raúl asks Candy how telling Santiago that they are novios will help his sister. She says it’s because Santiago is a womanizer, and she apologizes for getting so close to Raúl in order to lie to Santiago. Raúl says he loved it, and he would love to make that lie into the truth. Candy firmly insists, they’re only friends, but Raúl presses a bit more before he relents.
Santi calls Marissa, “Why didn’t you tell me Raúl and Candy are novios?” Marissa is thrilled by the news. She suggests that they celebrate with some whoopie at his house, and he is scandalized by the idea because his daughters are around. He hangs up, cries out for his
Lucía is at Charly’s house and finds out that no one else is home. He invites her up to his room. She resists, but not very hard.
Donato lets Marissa sneak in, but she short-pays his bribe. Bad idea to get on the bad side of the guy who holds the keys. Upstairs, Santiago is scolding the mirror with his frustrations about Candy. Marissa, dressed in only a towel, surprises him. He tries to back away – “not here at my house,” – falls down the steps, gets knocked out, and hallucinates about all the good times with Candy. He has a huge smile when Marissa brings him around, because he was “with an angel.”
(Note, I merged some broken-up scenes here, for the sake of continuity.) At the institute, Marissa asks Bárbara for any news. Cece discovers that Barb is Marissa’s spy. Mar runs up and gives Candy a big hug, so excited that they are cuñadas (sisters-in-law). Note, in Mexico, the in-law relationships include novios, not just married couples. Candy tells her to not take this too fast, but Marissa still calls Raúl about the report. He breaks the news – it’s just a ruse to make Santiago stop chasing Candy.
I wonder if the writers are preparing us for a turning point. Friday it was made resoundingly clear that Santiago only wanted Candy as a mistress. In his office, Candy told him point blank, that if all his romantic words were true, he wouldn’t still be with Marissa. In other words, put up or shut up, Vaquero! Santi’s response? He came extremely close to intent to rape (“Te voy a hacer el amor!” he shouts, “I WILL make love to you,” as he unbuttons his shirt.). These are NOT steps toward winning a wife! Next Marissa requests that if he’s not sure he wants her, set her free. She left the door wide open. Santiago’s response? Kiss her goodbye? No! He didn’t because he wants Marissa as his novia and Candy as his mistress. And just for good measure, in the very next scene Candy asks Isabel about her son being such a womanizer. The point is clear: Santi just wants Candy in bed, and might even resort to force. He’s a bum!
But now, Santi is talking to Donato so obviously his words are not calculated to seduce Candy. He pours out his confusion and emotional turmoil. His key point: “Candy makes me a different man; the man I really am.” Perhaps this marks the start of Santiago’s change.
He says, “When Paulina abandoned me, I felt like I was condemned to be alone. Alone when I sleep, alone when I eat lunch, it’s like I‘m alone in every part of my being. The light went out. Like a shadow always over me, that doesn’t let me breath. Every day. But with Candy that doesn’t happen. With her, everything is happy. When I see her, when I hear about her, when I think about her, when we’re on the phone, when we joke around, when I kiss her, I don’t feel abandoned or alone or suffocated – as if I have to run outside to be able to breath. With Candy I don’t have to run away. She makes me a different man, the man I really am. Not what I pretend to be, but what I am. No masks. I dream about her every night.”
Donato answers, “Where I come from (en mi pueblo), that means you’re in love, Patron.” Santiago sits back and agrees, pondering the weight of that. He likes it. He really, really likes it. Hey Mikey!
In the institute’s bathroom, Cece confronts Bárbara for spying on Candy. Bárbara tells her to butt out or she’ll tell Candy about the roses. Just then Candy walks in and wants to know, “What about the roses?”
At Pat’s office, Alicia is trying another scheme: She and Pat should move back to Mexico City to get a fresh start, and they should take Beto along. “After all, we could give him a better life than his mother.” Pat tells her that is out of the question, and that he is trying to make things right in his life.
Isabel comes into the kitchen to talk to Donato. Santi discovers that his mama is having a dinner party with Candy(!), and she will have a surprise announcement.
Charly and Lucía are making out (fully clothed) on Charly’s bed, when they hear Meño arrive home. Lucía hides under the bed. Meño sees her but doesn’t say anything.
Santiago is on the phone with Marissa, explaining that tonight is his weekly date with Rocío; they’re going out for pizza, movie, and “rollo (boring stuff?).” Marissa can come along if she wants; of course she doesn’t want. Phew! He’s actually getting ready for tonight’s dinner with Candy, and he tried on three suits before he settled on this one. He pays off Donato to make extra sure that Marissa is kept out of the house tonight. Is anyone else shocked by how bad he looks in a suit? Is it the drab, crooked tie? The plain white shirt? A bad fit? The wild chinos (curls)?
Charly gets home and Meño is waiting. He saw the feet under the bed, and he remembers what it was like to be that age. Charly confesses he’s a virgin. Meño reminds him of the importance of using a condom. In other words, it’s okay to steal her heart; just be safe about it.
Pat sees Lulu at the restaurant and remembers her from the fake Rojiblanca picture. He asks Lulu to take him to the genuine article. She refuses, but with just the slightest bit of flirting, Pat gets her cooperation. And the address of the institute.
Candy arrives at Santiago’s for the dinner, and he’s just glowing, looking forward to dinner alone with his favorite dish. Just then Raúl walks in, and Santiago reprises his swallowed-a-poodle face. Raúl notes that something seems to be bothering Santiago. Santi adamantly denies anything is wrong, through clenched teeth, spitting poodle hairs. Isabel joins the little group and enjoys seeing her son tormented. Candy and Raúl trade big Ultrabright smiles, just to stick the knife in a little deeper.
How ironic. Candy has Raúl at her side to keep Santiago at bay, but Isabel has other ideas. She is no dummy, de ninguna manera. She knows somebody needs to light a fire under Santi – a bright green fire – so that he stops playing around and starts seriously trying to win Candy, for keeps. Nothing like a rival to light that bright green fire in Santiago’s eyes.
At dinner, Santi looks like he just went six rounds with Evander Holyfield, and Isabel doesn’t even give him time to recover between punches. “You make a lovely couple. When’s the wedding?” Notice that Santi doesn’t drink to the happy couple? Raúl makes goo-goo eyes, Candy affirms that Raúl won’t be an abandonado any more, and Santi looks sicker. I think that poodle didn’t agree with him. Then Isabel announces that she is going to be a partner in the institute (the rival of her son’s practice) and Santi excuses himself from the table. I think that poodle isn’t going to stay down.
Meño again reminds Charly of the importance of using a condom. Charly mentions that sometimes his papa moves like he’s gay.
Isabel bids Candy and Raúl goodnight; Santiago is conspicuous by his absence. Candy worries that since Isabel became her partner, that will create problems with her son.
Ole complains to Sven that he’s serving all the tables, and Sven isn’t doing anything. But Sven has a good excuse – he’s improving himself by taking a correspondence course – how to become the best kisser in Mexico.
Isabel comes into Santiago’s room and tells him, “You’re not feeling indigestion, but jealousy. It’s very hard to find the woman of your dreams. That’s why they call it ‘the other half of the orange.’ It’s her or no one. Your father was my other half of the orange. He was everything to me. You feel like you’ve found yours and she’s very close. (Santiago nods agreement.) But if you don’t do anything to win her…” Isabel walks out of the room, leaving Santiago to decide how he wants to finish her last sentence.
Raúl takes Candy home and tries to invite himself in for coffee; nothing doing. He again tries to convert their novios charade into reality; nothing doing. Candy finds Meño inconsolable at the kitchen table. He’s afraid that Charly will find out he’s gay, and if he finds out, he’ll hate him for the rest of his life. Candy reminds him that he told her (and she chokes on the words) that a person can’t live a life hiding behind lies. Meño asks Candy to make him as macho as Pedro Infante and Vicente Fernandez combined.
Santiago woke up Donato to help him think. He’s desperate to find a strategy so he can be alone with Candy. He’s sure that if he just had two days with her, he could get her into my arms. Donato jokes that they only way that would happen is if her house were rat-infested. Santiago gets excited – he thinks that’s a GREAT idea!
As Chava is getting ready for school, he and his mom talk more about bedwetting and the difference between boys and girls.
Alicia runs into Soledad in a parking lot. Literally! Sol tells Ali to quit telling Beto to call her “Mama.” Ali tells her that Pat is thinking about bringing Beto to live with them so he’ll have a better life. I would beg to differ with that conclusion. Better to live in a corner of a roof than in a house shared with a contentious woman; Prove. 21:9. Better a bit of dry bread in peace, than a house full of feasting and violent behavior; Prove. 17:1.
At school, the kids try to figure out how many mothers and fathers you are supposed to have.
Pat walks into the institute looking for Rojiblanca. He greets Lulu and almost sees Candy. Lulu runs to Candy’s office, and Candy begs/demands the she do something. Back in reception, Pat flirts some more and almost breaks Lulu’s resolve. Just then, in walks Soledad, whom Lulu presents to Pat as Rojiblanca and shoos them out of the office. When Candy hears what happened, she orders Lulu to pull Soledad aside and explain the plot to her. “After all,” Candy says, “this whole thing is your fault, Lulu.” Lulu points out a few fallacies of logic in that supposition, forcing Candy to quickly change the subject.
Can we take a quick inventory here? Candy has been called Dona Mantra (Madame Liar), but I think she is also La Reyna de los Pedidos (the queen of requests). Remember when Santiago complained, “Pides, pides, y nada cambia (you ask and ask, and nothing changes).” Who has she asked favors from, thus far?
- Meño, that he endure Suegrita in his house.
- Raúl, that he be her pretend boyfriend and lie to his good friend and cuñado.
- Lulu, that she patch up the Rojiblanca mess that Candy created.
- Soledad, that she lie to Beto’s father.
- Gregoria, that she lie to her other daughter for Candy’s sake.
- Chava, that he accept that he has no father, and stop asking questions.
- and of course Santiago.
And what has Candy done for other people? Um, um, I’m thinking. Don’t rush me.
Sven tells Ole he will allow Ole to buy his first lesson in becoming an expert kisser.
I really liked the hamsters scene, shot through their yellow plastic habitat. The cute young salesman has a certain spark. Unlike most actors, he doesn’t fade into the background when he shares a frame with Jaime Camil! Santiago is just glowing with anticipation of a successful plot. He asks the muchacho how many hamsters he has - twenty. Santi says he’ll take them all!
At a café, Soledad tells Pat how upset she is because of her encounter with Alicia. She says she won’t let Pat take her son to DF, and Pat assures her he has no such intention. His wife is a little.. not all there. He tells Soledad that Rojiblanca awakens certain feelings in him, and now that he knows that she is Rojiblanca, how about if they spend more time together?
Tomorrow: Candy’s family is driven out of their home by a rodent infestation, and guess who is there to offer them a temporary home?
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Off topic. I found a rare clip of Camil from 2000 or 2001.
Also off topic. Did anyone else catch Colunga on Cristina? I sure am glad I discovered telenovelas!
Also off topic. Did anyone else catch Colunga on Cristina? I sure am glad I discovered telenovelas!
Paula, an amazing recap. I don't know if I'm impressed more with your interesting detailed summaries or your astute analysis of the characters and their motivations.
Your point about Santiago being on the verge of change was well taken. Previously, "He.. wants Marissa as his novia and Candy as his mistress." Yes, he wanted the best of both worlds (don't we all and wouldn't it be nice??) :)
Hopefully, both Santiago and Candy will mature. Candy needs to learn all actions have consequences and that the world doesn't revolve strictly around her. Perhaps thinking of others (at least once in a while) before herself would help her emotional growth.
Pat has his faults but certainly deserves better than Alicia who has no morals and no conscience.
I fell asleep shortly after Cristina started but the first few minutes or so had tributes to Colunga from his leading ladies, all effusive, especially Lucero. Wish I could translate some of it but I can't. Cristina showed some pictures of Fernando highlighting his career and also of his previous visits on her show. Sigh. Diana in MA.
Your point about Santiago being on the verge of change was well taken. Previously, "He.. wants Marissa as his novia and Candy as his mistress." Yes, he wanted the best of both worlds (don't we all and wouldn't it be nice??) :)
Hopefully, both Santiago and Candy will mature. Candy needs to learn all actions have consequences and that the world doesn't revolve strictly around her. Perhaps thinking of others (at least once in a while) before herself would help her emotional growth.
Pat has his faults but certainly deserves better than Alicia who has no morals and no conscience.
I fell asleep shortly after Cristina started but the first few minutes or so had tributes to Colunga from his leading ladies, all effusive, especially Lucero. Wish I could translate some of it but I can't. Cristina showed some pictures of Fernando highlighting his career and also of his previous visits on her show. Sigh. Diana in MA.
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: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 7:05:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 7:05:00 AM EST
Good morning Paula and others! Cute "Pharmacias" clip Paula, I love it when you do those things. Also, your compressing for the sake of continuity is greatly appreciated. This silly show does hop around frenetically, kind of like Camil himself!
Interesting observation about this episode being a possible turning point for Santiago. I hope so. As was discussed after Friday's episode his immaturity and general treatment of women leaves a lot to be desired. His character needs to start its journey of redemption and pronto.
I didn't get a chance to watch Cristina yet. I recorded it so hopefully tonight. I did see a bit of Lucero singing his praises and Colunga looking pleased and embarrased. Can't wait to see it! Violet, Fernando Colunga is this blog's collective favorite telenovela hero; his picture is on the sidebar under "He's back!". You can probably rent Amor Real, Alborada and/or Pasión to get a taste of this hunk. We recommend it!
Paula, not sure what to say about the "rare clip of Camil". So glad you posted the link but frankly I'm speechless. Laughing out loud will have to do.
Thanks for the awesome recap!
Interesting observation about this episode being a possible turning point for Santiago. I hope so. As was discussed after Friday's episode his immaturity and general treatment of women leaves a lot to be desired. His character needs to start its journey of redemption and pronto.
I didn't get a chance to watch Cristina yet. I recorded it so hopefully tonight. I did see a bit of Lucero singing his praises and Colunga looking pleased and embarrased. Can't wait to see it! Violet, Fernando Colunga is this blog's collective favorite telenovela hero; his picture is on the sidebar under "He's back!". You can probably rent Amor Real, Alborada and/or Pasión to get a taste of this hunk. We recommend it!
Paula, not sure what to say about the "rare clip of Camil". So glad you posted the link but frankly I'm speechless. Laughing out loud will have to do.
Thanks for the awesome recap!
Santiago and Donato remind me of Bertie Wooster and Jeeves. I actually felt sorry for Santiago last night as his romantic dinner slowly unraveled before his eyes. Imagine, 7 years of bad sex. I guess it's better than 7 years of no sex. Clearly Tio Meno recognizes macho even if he's not. What better examples than Vicente Fernandez and Pedro Infante? And lastly, an hamster infestation? Perhaps we'll be treated to a round of Hamster Dance. Carlos
Thanks for a great recap, and you took the time to make a number of observations which remind us of what these characters have been doing, such as Candy's being the Queen of Requests. How true! Has anyone ever said no to her?
I also thought the link to Camil singing in 2000 was funny, with his blond hair, and earnest singing. His voice is nice, but the whole thing seemed like such an imitation of other singers, I almost thought it was a parody. And I especially thought the two back-up singers had an easy job - they didn't sing one note!
I also thought the link to Camil singing in 2000 was funny, with his blond hair, and earnest singing. His voice is nice, but the whole thing seemed like such an imitation of other singers, I almost thought it was a parody. And I especially thought the two back-up singers had an easy job - they didn't sing one note!
Paula, Paula, Paula, I'm always amazed at the little details you pick up. I got that Camil was flustered during that scene with Hortensia but didn't notice him gesturing to someone off-camera. You've really got an eye lady!
Loved your "swallowed a poodle" analogy...especially when I think of Santiago's hair...THAT poodle needs a trim IMO.
Almost threw something at the TV when Candy dared to say to Lulu that the snafu with Patricio "was Lulu's fault". Thank God our little gal defended herself. No more blame-shifting Candy! Enuf!!!
My son recorded Colunga on Cristina for me. Saw it a few moments ago. Fernando is gracious, charming and really doesn't tell you one darned thing about his personal life. Reminds me of Cary Grant....suave, charming but truly reserved underneath that easy charm. Well, more power to him. Surprised that Adele Noriega wasn't quoted in the homages to him. They must have spent a lot of quality time together in Amor Real so I expected something like the effusiveness of Lucero...but nothing, nada, rien, nichts! Hmmmm, hay un gato encerrado aqui?
Loved your "swallowed a poodle" analogy...especially when I think of Santiago's hair...THAT poodle needs a trim IMO.
Almost threw something at the TV when Candy dared to say to Lulu that the snafu with Patricio "was Lulu's fault". Thank God our little gal defended herself. No more blame-shifting Candy! Enuf!!!
My son recorded Colunga on Cristina for me. Saw it a few moments ago. Fernando is gracious, charming and really doesn't tell you one darned thing about his personal life. Reminds me of Cary Grant....suave, charming but truly reserved underneath that easy charm. Well, more power to him. Surprised that Adele Noriega wasn't quoted in the homages to him. They must have spent a lot of quality time together in Amor Real so I expected something like the effusiveness of Lucero...but nothing, nada, rien, nichts! Hmmmm, hay un gato encerrado aqui?
If anyone is interested in reading a total trashing of novelas and Angel in particular read the current issue of Entertainment Weekly. It is a complete snark fest featuring the most vapid, vacuous non actor in novlealand - William Levy. I'm writing a protesting letter to the rag.
Anyway on to more fun things. What a sap Soledad is not only for fixating on Pat but when she runs into make that is run into by Alicia and has that little snit fest she throws her coffee on the windshield of the car then throws the cup at Alicia. Most women would have just thrown the full cup at the woman if that is their inclination.
Those poor kids doing the parent count. Obviously there isn't an adult around they feel comfy asking about it so in the time honored way of kids are doing a little playground figuring.
I disagree about Santi looking bad in a suit although a brighter tie would have been much better. Perhaps as we move forward and he matures a little his clothing will brighten up as well. I also though it was hilarious to twice seeing him serving the butler.
Violet vis a vis Colunga. He is a big favorite of many people here but not mine. I don't think he is aging as well as some of his contemporaries but as my mother always said there is always something for everyone. LOL and ducking for cover.
Anyway on to more fun things. What a sap Soledad is not only for fixating on Pat but when she runs into make that is run into by Alicia and has that little snit fest she throws her coffee on the windshield of the car then throws the cup at Alicia. Most women would have just thrown the full cup at the woman if that is their inclination.
Those poor kids doing the parent count. Obviously there isn't an adult around they feel comfy asking about it so in the time honored way of kids are doing a little playground figuring.
I disagree about Santi looking bad in a suit although a brighter tie would have been much better. Perhaps as we move forward and he matures a little his clothing will brighten up as well. I also though it was hilarious to twice seeing him serving the butler.
Violet vis a vis Colunga. He is a big favorite of many people here but not mine. I don't think he is aging as well as some of his contemporaries but as my mother always said there is always something for everyone. LOL and ducking for cover.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 12:52:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 12:52:00 PM EST
Decie, I thought the article (which someone posted on the Cuidado blogline) was very interesting, actually, and not an attempt to trash the novelas. The background information on how they film the shows was fascinating. Spoiler alert for Cuidado viewers.
I will agree with you on Colunga, however--he's not my fave either. Ducking the brickbats . . .
I will agree with you on Colunga, however--he's not my fave either. Ducking the brickbats . . .
Thank you so much Paula, I enjoy your commentary and wit!
I have gotten to enjoy this show so much that I look forward to it each night and miss it on the weekends.
I am a big Camil fan since LaFea (and Colunga since the Alborada days). So anything either of them did I would enjoy.
I really dislike the character of Candy and her sister and mother! Candy especially is extremely annoying.I guess the writers are to blame.
Thanks everyone for all the fun comments!
Carrie L.
I have gotten to enjoy this show so much that I look forward to it each night and miss it on the weekends.
I am a big Camil fan since LaFea (and Colunga since the Alborada days). So anything either of them did I would enjoy.
I really dislike the character of Candy and her sister and mother! Candy especially is extremely annoying.I guess the writers are to blame.
Thanks everyone for all the fun comments!
Carrie L.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 1:47:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 1:47:00 PM EST
Violet, I've dubbed Fernando Colunga "TBLMOE" - The Best Looking Man on Earth. Lots of men think they are God's gift to women; Colunga really IS!
Apparently Colunga's tight-lipped defense of his privacy is legendary. He don't say nothin' to nobody. He is very conscious of his debt/responsibility to his fans, but he draws the line at his front door. I can't blame him.
Judy, Camil's signal was very subtle. I think (not sure) he lost his line again in the second scene with Hortensia. He says something like, "And now I forget why I called you in here." She says, "The pharmacy, Doctor," and he goes on from there. They would've filmed the two scenes back-to-back, and maybe he was a little off kilter.
Deciegirl, about Santi in a suit. I take it you didn't watch Fea? Don Fernando was born in a necktie (and hair gel) and looked so FINE in a suit. Santiago looks pretty frumpy by comparison.
I've noticed that whenever Santiago or Isabel deal with Donato as an equal, he dares to act like their superior - asking Santi to get him coffee, or giving Isabel investment counseling.
Hombre d'M, yes, PLENTY of people say no to Candy. And she just steamrolls over them.
As for the clip of Camil singing, enjoy it while you can. It got removed the last time it appeared on YouTube, so I suppose it will get removed again at some point. "Earnest singing." is one way to put it. The silent back-up singers just added to the "uniqueness." It was very early in his career, promoting his first CD. His only prior work was hosting small talk shows. His singing was already good, but obviously his acting has come a long, long way. Nobody starts out as an expert, but for most of us, our shortcomings early in life are universally forgotten. When you are a big star, they follow you for life.
Carrie, good to see you again, Compañera! You were such a regular back in the Fea days.
Apparently Colunga's tight-lipped defense of his privacy is legendary. He don't say nothin' to nobody. He is very conscious of his debt/responsibility to his fans, but he draws the line at his front door. I can't blame him.
Judy, Camil's signal was very subtle. I think (not sure) he lost his line again in the second scene with Hortensia. He says something like, "And now I forget why I called you in here." She says, "The pharmacy, Doctor," and he goes on from there. They would've filmed the two scenes back-to-back, and maybe he was a little off kilter.
Deciegirl, about Santi in a suit. I take it you didn't watch Fea? Don Fernando was born in a necktie (and hair gel) and looked so FINE in a suit. Santiago looks pretty frumpy by comparison.
I've noticed that whenever Santiago or Isabel deal with Donato as an equal, he dares to act like their superior - asking Santi to get him coffee, or giving Isabel investment counseling.
Hombre d'M, yes, PLENTY of people say no to Candy. And she just steamrolls over them.
As for the clip of Camil singing, enjoy it while you can. It got removed the last time it appeared on YouTube, so I suppose it will get removed again at some point. "Earnest singing." is one way to put it. The silent back-up singers just added to the "uniqueness." It was very early in his career, promoting his first CD. His only prior work was hosting small talk shows. His singing was already good, but obviously his acting has come a long, long way. Nobody starts out as an expert, but for most of us, our shortcomings early in life are universally forgotten. When you are a big star, they follow you for life.
Carrie, good to see you again, Compañera! You were such a regular back in the Fea days.
I can't believe that I fell asleep on the couch last night at 8.30 and missed Fuego AND more importantly TBLMOE Fernando on Cristina..Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa....I needed some Fernando during these loooong, cold winter months. ~~~Susanlynn, feeling SAD
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 2:22:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 2:22:00 PM EST
I'm going to vote for the loose curly hair, casual clothes look on Camil. I've never been a fan of the slicked-back or the suits. Maybe it's because I've lived in Seattle so long.
Paula, I am always amazed at how much you see, and how well you describe it.
Santiago really couldn't be more childish and irrational, but he's so much fun to watch. Does he realize the situation he's getting himself into, having Charly move into the house where Lucia lives? Can't wait to see his reaction if he catches Meno just saying, "be sure to use a condom."
Paula, I am always amazed at how much you see, and how well you describe it.
Santiago really couldn't be more childish and irrational, but he's so much fun to watch. Does he realize the situation he's getting himself into, having Charly move into the house where Lucia lives? Can't wait to see his reaction if he catches Meno just saying, "be sure to use a condom."
Yes, welcome back Carrie. Glad Jaime Camil brought you back to us.
By the way, I guess Adele Noriega did say lots of nice things about Colunga. It was just one of many many parts that were edited out.
Eve of Cleveland who has commented on this line and the 9 pm line is on a forum about Colunga and some of the participants actually attended the show. I guess if we'd been there, it would have been twice as long. Dang those commercials!
By the way, I guess Adele Noriega did say lots of nice things about Colunga. It was just one of many many parts that were edited out.
Eve of Cleveland who has commented on this line and the 9 pm line is on a forum about Colunga and some of the participants actually attended the show. I guess if we'd been there, it would have been twice as long. Dang those commercials!
Thanks for the recap Paula. I too hope our two leads will mature and that Santi is starting to start his path to redemption. I loved your quote Proverbs. With Alicia in the cast, you could quote from Proverbs quite a bit.
Susanlynn, BE CAREFUL!!! You know it's hazardous to fall asleep and leave candles unattended. Think how much more dangerous it is, if you fall asleep with Colunga on TV, unattended! You could've burned the house down!
I think that last night was the first night that Candy really got to me. Up until now I guess I was in denial. It will be interesting to see how she "turns the corner" it has to happen sometime... I can't wait for tonight! I am excited to see Meno and the ratas :)
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Mauni in wa
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 5:35:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 at 5:35:00 PM EST
Thanks for all the links and detailed analysis. I'm really hating this "use Raul to fend off Santi" bit. I really have no respect for the writers creating this conflicting Candy character and I bet that's why this novela didn't do as well as folks hoped.
She is the most superficial of the bunch -more than Ali even I think- and yet she wants to promote natural beauty to other women? Pulease. People can't buy this.
Unlike Lety who really was a solid, sympathetic and very real character (at least in the beginning...her Aurora days are well "debatable"....) Sooo, I just wish Candy wasn't so flaky. Sigh.
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She is the most superficial of the bunch -more than Ali even I think- and yet she wants to promote natural beauty to other women? Pulease. People can't buy this.
Unlike Lety who really was a solid, sympathetic and very real character (at least in the beginning...her Aurora days are well "debatable"....) Sooo, I just wish Candy wasn't so flaky. Sigh.
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