Thursday, February 19, 2009
Tontas no van - Wed. Feb 18 - You can hide the truth but the truth can't hide you
We open with Marissa not amused in the least bit at the face book shot Ali gave her, Ali offers to send them to her computer.
Candi and Santi finish their conversation, basically the same thing as usual, he’s getting married and going to have a boy and he says he’ll be th best pa ever, but the one he wants is her.
Gregi is cooking for Meno, he likes the food and gives her a job. He still wants to know who her boyfriend is.
Mari has flames coming out of her ears as she wonders what these two fakers are going to do when they see this.
Pau fights with Santi about getting to see Roci, she wants to get back the time she lost. HA! Santi reminds her she abandoned her. She says I’m still her Ma, she’s forgiven me so you should too. He says fine as long as she stops putting these things in her head about pa not loving her and she needs to go to NY and all that, it’s really bad. She agrees, thanks him and goes out.
Horty nearly knocks him out to hand him the photo his girlfriend left. You can guess what it is….
Mari now presents the same one to Candi and makes her feel bad for doing the same thing to her that her sister did, yeah it feels the same, remember it? Our “perfect princess” can say nothing and runs out sobbing. The sobbing continues for quite a while. She decides Mari is right and that she has to leave Mari alone to be with Santi. Mari on the other hand recharges her armaments to now deal with Santi.
While Candi is cleaning herself up in the bathroom, she notices the baby clothes in the trash. Of course Barbara comes in and wonders what she is doing with the gift she gave to Mari. Candi is perplexed. Now I would have ratted her out right then and there, but Candi lies (again, though this time it’s probably not to hurt Barb) and says Mari was showing them to her. I’m thinking, why would you throw them away in the common bathroom of your mutual workplace? Bizarre.
OK, so now it’s Santi’s turn to get chewed out and he tries to calm Mari down and tell her she matters. She gets faint and rejects him wanting to help her but he wants to check her out. She makes a face like maybe she’s ok after all, hard to tell.
Charly and Lu are at the mall with some buddies, the boys are making fun of Lu for being so serious about school, saying it doesn’t really help. Lu gets mad because Charly agrees. She stomps off with her girlfriends. One of the guys asks Charly if he really wants his moto, because if so he has a good business he’ll share. Ok, here we go, yes, it’s the wonder herb, definitely not above board. Ay yay yay, Charly is starting that slippery slide I fear.
Now Ali tortures Pato with the photo. She wants him to know Candi isn’t the same person he fell in love with. He says fine, well you’ve hurt me so there. She says she didn’t want that, despite how much she’s been hurt, she’s already lost all her dignity and she doesn’t even care if he sleeps with Candi, she only wants him not to leave her.
Zamora and Tono discuss that Lulu is going to be the fat armed one. Ton takes it literally, but Zam says that just means she’s going to flip out when she sees Greg in the kitchen. He also says that the school won’t accept him with the makeover Candi is doing. They whisper some stuff, so I guess a surprise is coming.
Ok this was weird. Candi finally goes into to talk to Mari and says she didn’t mean to hurt her, but Mari says eh, don’t worry. Santi is irresistible, it’ll change when we are married. I’m over it already. Huh? Ok, whatever. Candi busts her on the baby clothes, but Mari acts like she didn’t know where she left them and thanks Candi for saving them for her. Candi is perplexed.
We have a random scene in the kitchen to learn that tomorrow will be Izzy’s wedding. She gets a stiff neck, so must be she is nervous - seems to happen after Donato remarks she'll soon be going to live with Jaime.
Of course Lulu arrives and wants to know what Gregi is doing there. This breaks down into insults and a standoff with a knife, Lulu being called at fatty from Tlaquepaque, and Greg getting called something, maybe pulpista from the Plaza de Liberacion. I wasn’t able to record, so this part is from you tube without captions. If you did get it, feel free to let me know. The plaza is the big one we always see, here’s a great pic I took, and it’s a very public place so there's some sort of put down of street peddler or lurker or pidgeon, or something you might find in such a place. Anyway, Greg informs her this is not her kitchen now, so go, and persuades her with the knife. Lulu scampers off.
Mari is at Raul’s and wants him to read an article about how a woman was drugged woke up naked and the next thing she knew she was pregnant. He figures that she is suggesting he do the same thing to Candi and tells her she’s nuts. She responds that she thinks Candi needs some love and maybe he could be it. He says no way and shuts her up, but he might be thinking about this.
Everyone is outside of Izzy’s room including Jaime and it appears she really is having a nervous breakdown. She passes a note to her son that she suspends the wedding.
At home Candi and Ma are talking about the tossed baby clothes how strange it all is, and how upset Lulu was. Charly suggests that he wants a moto and no one likes that idea. The doorbell rings and it turns out to be Ali. It also turns out that Pato was there too and comes running down just then with Chava and playing lucha libre masks. Ali remarks how great that the whole family is there. She decides to tell Candi that Pato is innocent and that he was practically unconscious from drink. Candi doesn’t buy this though and Pato wants to leave, but Ali wants her family back. Candi says no. Pato escorts her out and Candi goes up to bed leaving whatever was on the table before pending.
Next we see Jaime freaking out , they call for a doc but Santi asks what he is , a firefighter? Jaime decides he doesn’t need that kind of doc help, and he’s fine. He wanders off and Santi goes in to see his crying ma. She loves Jaime but turns out she doesn’t want to leave her house and her family. Santi tells her he wasn’t for it at first, but if Jaime makes her happy then they should come to live in this house. They hug and he calls her his darling little old lady. She takes offense at this and he blames it on the Argentinos having a saying, but she says they aren’t Argentino so she wants him punished and kicks him out for being rude.
Ed and Raul are doing very nice hip moves to the tele and Raul suggests that maybe Chayo isn’t really putting the horns on, but instead is sending herself flowers to fool him. I liked watching them move their hips.
Jaime and Izzy make up and Mari shows up not wanting to sleep by herself, so she wants to sleep with Santi. He of course, standing in front of his daughters tells her she will sleep in the guest room and like it. She’s a little slow on the uptake, but eventually gets that they can sneak later.
Chava notes to Candi how long it’s been since he’s wet the bed. Hmmm, the Pato effect perhaps? Everyone says good night, and Candi asks for them to take Chava to school because she has her test very early. They talk about going to the wedding.
Chayo is happy she finally slept in the same bed with her husband for a change. Turns out he’s on the phone, but Candi tells her to keep playing the game and to tell him she’s occupied. She fears it may be too much, but goes for it.
Lalo tells Santi he was happy to spend the night with his wife. This happiness is forgotten quickly as he gets a call and gives a kiss, was it from his wife or lover? I think it was his lover because he makes an excuse of working a lot and that’s why he hasn’t called. He thinks maybe he’ll see her tonight, but Santi reminds him, no, he’s coming to his Ma’s wedding.
Mari goes into Candi’s office and sees that she is writing a diary on her computer and sits down to read it. Lulu comes upon this and decides to fake she heard Mari calling her. Mari says no, she was only turning off Candi’s computer because she left it on. Neither one believes the other and they give each other stink eye.
Lalo goes to the office to take Chayo out to lunch but he falls into a trap. I don’t get this, she was worried about not talking to him on the phone, but instead she fakes making out with a man and driving off to a restaurant making him follow her? Big leap there, sort of deserving of what happens next. She goes to Meno’s restaurant and of course Lalo follows and rushes in wanting to know where his wife is. He grabs Charly and fakes that he has a gun in his pocket. Meno tries to talk sense into him and learns his gun is the two finger barrel type and wonders what’s wrong. Chayo, who is boiling over at this point, comes out and proclaims that she’ll leave her guy if he leaves his girl. And the writers leave us until tomorrow.
Candi and Santi finish their conversation, basically the same thing as usual, he’s getting married and going to have a boy and he says he’ll be th best pa ever, but the one he wants is her.
Gregi is cooking for Meno, he likes the food and gives her a job. He still wants to know who her boyfriend is.
Mari has flames coming out of her ears as she wonders what these two fakers are going to do when they see this.
Pau fights with Santi about getting to see Roci, she wants to get back the time she lost. HA! Santi reminds her she abandoned her. She says I’m still her Ma, she’s forgiven me so you should too. He says fine as long as she stops putting these things in her head about pa not loving her and she needs to go to NY and all that, it’s really bad. She agrees, thanks him and goes out.
Horty nearly knocks him out to hand him the photo his girlfriend left. You can guess what it is….
Mari now presents the same one to Candi and makes her feel bad for doing the same thing to her that her sister did, yeah it feels the same, remember it? Our “perfect princess” can say nothing and runs out sobbing. The sobbing continues for quite a while. She decides Mari is right and that she has to leave Mari alone to be with Santi. Mari on the other hand recharges her armaments to now deal with Santi.
While Candi is cleaning herself up in the bathroom, she notices the baby clothes in the trash. Of course Barbara comes in and wonders what she is doing with the gift she gave to Mari. Candi is perplexed. Now I would have ratted her out right then and there, but Candi lies (again, though this time it’s probably not to hurt Barb) and says Mari was showing them to her. I’m thinking, why would you throw them away in the common bathroom of your mutual workplace? Bizarre.
OK, so now it’s Santi’s turn to get chewed out and he tries to calm Mari down and tell her she matters. She gets faint and rejects him wanting to help her but he wants to check her out. She makes a face like maybe she’s ok after all, hard to tell.
Charly and Lu are at the mall with some buddies, the boys are making fun of Lu for being so serious about school, saying it doesn’t really help. Lu gets mad because Charly agrees. She stomps off with her girlfriends. One of the guys asks Charly if he really wants his moto, because if so he has a good business he’ll share. Ok, here we go, yes, it’s the wonder herb, definitely not above board. Ay yay yay, Charly is starting that slippery slide I fear.
Now Ali tortures Pato with the photo. She wants him to know Candi isn’t the same person he fell in love with. He says fine, well you’ve hurt me so there. She says she didn’t want that, despite how much she’s been hurt, she’s already lost all her dignity and she doesn’t even care if he sleeps with Candi, she only wants him not to leave her.
Zamora and Tono discuss that Lulu is going to be the fat armed one. Ton takes it literally, but Zam says that just means she’s going to flip out when she sees Greg in the kitchen. He also says that the school won’t accept him with the makeover Candi is doing. They whisper some stuff, so I guess a surprise is coming.
Ok this was weird. Candi finally goes into to talk to Mari and says she didn’t mean to hurt her, but Mari says eh, don’t worry. Santi is irresistible, it’ll change when we are married. I’m over it already. Huh? Ok, whatever. Candi busts her on the baby clothes, but Mari acts like she didn’t know where she left them and thanks Candi for saving them for her. Candi is perplexed.
We have a random scene in the kitchen to learn that tomorrow will be Izzy’s wedding. She gets a stiff neck, so must be she is nervous - seems to happen after Donato remarks she'll soon be going to live with Jaime.
Of course Lulu arrives and wants to know what Gregi is doing there. This breaks down into insults and a standoff with a knife, Lulu being called at fatty from Tlaquepaque, and Greg getting called something, maybe pulpista from the Plaza de Liberacion. I wasn’t able to record, so this part is from you tube without captions. If you did get it, feel free to let me know. The plaza is the big one we always see, here’s a great pic I took, and it’s a very public place so there's some sort of put down of street peddler or lurker or pidgeon, or something you might find in such a place. Anyway, Greg informs her this is not her kitchen now, so go, and persuades her with the knife. Lulu scampers off.
Mari is at Raul’s and wants him to read an article about how a woman was drugged woke up naked and the next thing she knew she was pregnant. He figures that she is suggesting he do the same thing to Candi and tells her she’s nuts. She responds that she thinks Candi needs some love and maybe he could be it. He says no way and shuts her up, but he might be thinking about this.
Everyone is outside of Izzy’s room including Jaime and it appears she really is having a nervous breakdown. She passes a note to her son that she suspends the wedding.
At home Candi and Ma are talking about the tossed baby clothes how strange it all is, and how upset Lulu was. Charly suggests that he wants a moto and no one likes that idea. The doorbell rings and it turns out to be Ali. It also turns out that Pato was there too and comes running down just then with Chava and playing lucha libre masks. Ali remarks how great that the whole family is there. She decides to tell Candi that Pato is innocent and that he was practically unconscious from drink. Candi doesn’t buy this though and Pato wants to leave, but Ali wants her family back. Candi says no. Pato escorts her out and Candi goes up to bed leaving whatever was on the table before pending.
Next we see Jaime freaking out , they call for a doc but Santi asks what he is , a firefighter? Jaime decides he doesn’t need that kind of doc help, and he’s fine. He wanders off and Santi goes in to see his crying ma. She loves Jaime but turns out she doesn’t want to leave her house and her family. Santi tells her he wasn’t for it at first, but if Jaime makes her happy then they should come to live in this house. They hug and he calls her his darling little old lady. She takes offense at this and he blames it on the Argentinos having a saying, but she says they aren’t Argentino so she wants him punished and kicks him out for being rude.
Ed and Raul are doing very nice hip moves to the tele and Raul suggests that maybe Chayo isn’t really putting the horns on, but instead is sending herself flowers to fool him. I liked watching them move their hips.
Jaime and Izzy make up and Mari shows up not wanting to sleep by herself, so she wants to sleep with Santi. He of course, standing in front of his daughters tells her she will sleep in the guest room and like it. She’s a little slow on the uptake, but eventually gets that they can sneak later.
Chava notes to Candi how long it’s been since he’s wet the bed. Hmmm, the Pato effect perhaps? Everyone says good night, and Candi asks for them to take Chava to school because she has her test very early. They talk about going to the wedding.
Chayo is happy she finally slept in the same bed with her husband for a change. Turns out he’s on the phone, but Candi tells her to keep playing the game and to tell him she’s occupied. She fears it may be too much, but goes for it.
Lalo tells Santi he was happy to spend the night with his wife. This happiness is forgotten quickly as he gets a call and gives a kiss, was it from his wife or lover? I think it was his lover because he makes an excuse of working a lot and that’s why he hasn’t called. He thinks maybe he’ll see her tonight, but Santi reminds him, no, he’s coming to his Ma’s wedding.
Mari goes into Candi’s office and sees that she is writing a diary on her computer and sits down to read it. Lulu comes upon this and decides to fake she heard Mari calling her. Mari says no, she was only turning off Candi’s computer because she left it on. Neither one believes the other and they give each other stink eye.
Lalo goes to the office to take Chayo out to lunch but he falls into a trap. I don’t get this, she was worried about not talking to him on the phone, but instead she fakes making out with a man and driving off to a restaurant making him follow her? Big leap there, sort of deserving of what happens next. She goes to Meno’s restaurant and of course Lalo follows and rushes in wanting to know where his wife is. He grabs Charly and fakes that he has a gun in his pocket. Meno tries to talk sense into him and learns his gun is the two finger barrel type and wonders what’s wrong. Chayo, who is boiling over at this point, comes out and proclaims that she’ll leave her guy if he leaves his girl. And the writers leave us until tomorrow.
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Re the baby clothes, if Marissa had any idea of the volume of alimentary effluvia that a newborn produces, she'd be much less concerned about style and color and more appreciative of the extra clothing.
Great recap, Kris, thanks!
Great recap, Kris, thanks!
Kris: thanks for a terrific recap.
I thought Mari let Candy off way too easily. Still, "Our “perfect princess” can say nothing and runs out sobbing." She's handled every difficult situation in her life in a similar fashion, so no surprise she stays the course here.
On a positive note, it's nice to see Meno and Gregoria bonding.
Mike, loved "the volume of alimentary effluvia that a newborn produces..." Diana in MA
I thought Mari let Candy off way too easily. Still, "Our “perfect princess” can say nothing and runs out sobbing." She's handled every difficult situation in her life in a similar fashion, so no surprise she stays the course here.
On a positive note, it's nice to see Meno and Gregoria bonding.
Mike, loved "the volume of alimentary effluvia that a newborn produces..." Diana in MA
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: Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 9:00:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 9:00:00 AM EST
Ooooeeee, I sure was glad to see Marissa give it to Candy. It's about time someone knocked our perfect princess off her pedestal. Candy looked so shocked too. Hello?!? I might even like Marissa a little bit if she weren't such a date rape proponent.
So Jaime might move into Casa Santiago? No wonder Santi looked like he was about to faint after he made the offer. We've never seen Jaime's house have we? I think he's supposed to be loaded but Isabel might not know that.
The scenes and editing were particularly weird in this episode. There seemed to be a lot of random tidbits thrown in and some disjointed behavior from our characters. I don't trust Paulina however. She only acts nice to hide the evil that lurks within.
Awesome recap Kris, and great job without closed caps!! My CCs were all screwed up last night not to mention there was a ton of macroblocking going on. I hate it when that happens.
So Jaime might move into Casa Santiago? No wonder Santi looked like he was about to faint after he made the offer. We've never seen Jaime's house have we? I think he's supposed to be loaded but Isabel might not know that.
The scenes and editing were particularly weird in this episode. There seemed to be a lot of random tidbits thrown in and some disjointed behavior from our characters. I don't trust Paulina however. She only acts nice to hide the evil that lurks within.
Awesome recap Kris, and great job without closed caps!! My CCs were all screwed up last night not to mention there was a ton of macroblocking going on. I hate it when that happens.
P.S. The Tlaquepaque link didn't work for me but I went to the mexicopeopleandcrafts site and found Tlaquepaque that way. Very interesting! Also, thank you for the wonderful photo. Things like that really help make these shows come alive, especially for those of us who have never had the opportunity to visit these areas.
Thank you for the recap. As usual, there were details I had missed in the show, so the recap is SOOOO helpful!
I laughed out loud at the Three Stooges slapping each other in the kitchen--especially the "Go to Hell" look that Lulu gave Chayo after she was slapped. She really looked like she didn't appreciate it! Either very good acting or she really didn't expect it. I'm still laughing just thinking about it this morning.
I laughed out loud at the Three Stooges slapping each other in the kitchen--especially the "Go to Hell" look that Lulu gave Chayo after she was slapped. She really looked like she didn't appreciate it! Either very good acting or she really didn't expect it. I'm still laughing just thinking about it this morning.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 10:20:00 AM EST
: Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 10:20:00 AM EST
Excellent recap, Kris.
So Charly is going to sell mota so he can buy a moto. What could possibly go wrong there?
Meño more and more is reminding me of Black Adder.
Thanks again Judy and Julia for pointing out the squickiness of Candy's relationship with Chava: now I'm having to view them with a more jaundiced eye.
Carlos
So Charly is going to sell mota so he can buy a moto. What could possibly go wrong there?
Meño more and more is reminding me of Black Adder.
Thanks again Judy and Julia for pointing out the squickiness of Candy's relationship with Chava: now I'm having to view them with a more jaundiced eye.
Carlos
Hi Kris. Just getting to this after a busy morning. Love the title. Missed the show last night due to a reunion dinner, so really needed your recap and particularly enjoyed that beautiful photo.
Sylvia and Hombre...heading down to Charlotte for a "grandkids fix" so will count on catching up reading your recaps when I get back.
Will miss you all, but missing the little ones more so off I go!
Sylvia and Hombre...heading down to Charlotte for a "grandkids fix" so will count on catching up reading your recaps when I get back.
Will miss you all, but missing the little ones more so off I go!
Thanks Kris, the recap is great it's the plot that is making me crazy but you captured the madness so well. I know I am supposed to be all sympathy for the mother to be but Marissa just nauseates me. Since I like the actress so much, I know she is doing a good acting job. Her manipulations all center around, let me have my way every minute, I am a pregnant woman and therefore a goddess here. The nasty act of throwing the baby clothes away was just disgusting. Her continual scheming to get Santi by playing off his good intentions as a father and assuming that he will naturally come to love her and be faithful after the wedding and the baby when he repeatedly tells her that is not his reality. She and Ali make all desperate women look bad! I hate the stereotype.
Great recap, Kris, and I loved all your observations.
I particularly enjoyed the scene outside Isabel's room where they kept passing the news down the line (I think this used to be a game called gossip), and of course it changed so much, that each time they started with something like she's not going to come out, Donato, at the end of the line, thought he heard he didn't want to die! (made more sense in Spanish).
As self-centered as Candy is, I still don't think she can do much more at this point to make things right. She's boxed in. She loves Santi, but doesn't want to hurt Marissa (although her view of Mari went down another notch with the baby clothes, and also did Lulu tell Candy that Mari was reading Candy's diary? If so, that's another notch). As for Pat, Candy is justifiably wary of starting back up with him. So she's sort of in a holding pattern. I almost don't see how she can take this much stress, whether or not she deserves it. Fortunately for us viewers, Candy seems to have endless energy, and is always trying new things (so far she writes a column, was working in her uncle's restaurant, started an Institute and is taking an image design class, and we've only been watching her for 2 or 3 months!
I particularly enjoyed the scene outside Isabel's room where they kept passing the news down the line (I think this used to be a game called gossip), and of course it changed so much, that each time they started with something like she's not going to come out, Donato, at the end of the line, thought he heard he didn't want to die! (made more sense in Spanish).
As self-centered as Candy is, I still don't think she can do much more at this point to make things right. She's boxed in. She loves Santi, but doesn't want to hurt Marissa (although her view of Mari went down another notch with the baby clothes, and also did Lulu tell Candy that Mari was reading Candy's diary? If so, that's another notch). As for Pat, Candy is justifiably wary of starting back up with him. So she's sort of in a holding pattern. I almost don't see how she can take this much stress, whether or not she deserves it. Fortunately for us viewers, Candy seems to have endless energy, and is always trying new things (so far she writes a column, was working in her uncle's restaurant, started an Institute and is taking an image design class, and we've only been watching her for 2 or 3 months!
The macroblocking happens to me sometimes, too. It's when your TV picture for some reason gets glitchy and just, like, blocks of a few colors appear on part of the screen instead of the fine pixilation that shows the whole picture. It lasts for a few seconds, but sometimes off and on for an entire episode. I only ever have this problem with Univision.
Excellent recap. That Marissa is all kinds of nasty. Why not give the clothes to an orphanage if she didn't want them?
Excellent recap. That Marissa is all kinds of nasty. Why not give the clothes to an orphanage if she didn't want them?
Yeah thanks I probably should have included more details on the whole kitchen slapping scene, that was hysterical. If we are lucky though we'll see it again tonight.
Mike love your observation of the finer points of taking care of a baby!!! I'll fix the tlaquepaque link, essentially it's a very well known artisan shopping area with arts and crafts and markets and traditional things to buy. Very lovely.
Mike love your observation of the finer points of taking care of a baby!!! I'll fix the tlaquepaque link, essentially it's a very well known artisan shopping area with arts and crafts and markets and traditional things to buy. Very lovely.
Sorry, yeah, macroblocking is the digital equivalent of analog signal "noise" or fuzziness or ghosting, i.e. a weak signal. Actually, Sylvia taught me the proper word for it. The concept though is essentially a problem with how the digital tuner decodes the signal it gets from the source transmission.
Oh, and the more I thought about it, I think maybe Lulu did call her a pulpista which I think is kind of like a street thug or troublemaker or gang member which would make sense with her agressive stance threatening Lulu with a knife and all....
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Oh, and the more I thought about it, I think maybe Lulu did call her a pulpista which I think is kind of like a street thug or troublemaker or gang member which would make sense with her agressive stance threatening Lulu with a knife and all....
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