Friday, May 01, 2009
Las Tontas Thurs 4/30 - In which Candy makes everyone confirm she's the best mother in the world
Guess what, as of this month I have been a recapper for Caray, Caray for three years! That's right, my first official Caray, Caray recap was on April 25, 2006. I know I'm not the only recapper (besides our Blog mom Melinama) who has been around that long. But you know what's even better, how the phenomenon of Caray, Caray has grown from a one-telenovela blog with a few recappers and few (but very faithful) commenters a to full-on resource with many participants. Congratulations Melinama and everyone!!
Tonight I learned that "coraje" means not only courage but also anger.
We are in...Guadalajara! And Chava has a tantrum because he wants to live with papa not mama. Meño counts the ways Candy has been the best mother in the world and his advice to her is you can't be with someone you don't love (Pato) just to make your kid happy. "But Chava is my life!" she wails. He says if she's not happy Chava will not be happy.
Chava comes back, sees mom crying and they make up. Fuera dolor! He wants to visit Rocio and mom says she has something to show him first.
Candy makes Chava another box, it's an anger (coraje) box. When he gets mad he yells in the box. His trial run is "It make me really angry that my mami doesn't want to live with my papa!!!!" and hey, he feels better. Candy's a bit impactada at his vehemence but she feels better too. Charly shows up and tells Chava that Rocio is downstairs waiting for him.
Alicia struts around Pato's house with the baby threatening to Pato that she and Patito are moving out and will be perfectly happy without a papa.
Candy calls Santi and complains to him about Chava's tantrum. He assures her she's not a bad mom. As he talks Rocio runs in and steals the glass of OJ he just poured. He dispenses advice and pours another OJ; Beto runs in and steal this one. He pours another and almost drinks it...but Chava runs in and grabs it. He tells Candy he loves her and she responds by blowing her nose into the phone. "Very nice" comments Santi.
Jaime watches the kids and Zamora shows up to discuss their (his and papa's, oops I mean Jaime's) performance. As they talk Zam's mom calls and Zam tells her his new friend plays the piano. Uh oh, mom has hated pianistas since he was young so Zam takes the call elsewhere. Did you all catch that? MOM HATES PIANISTAS. GET IT?
Santi shows up and wants to talk to Chava hombre-to-hombre...en privado.
Daniela and Charly have lunch and she shares her anguish with having to tell her family she has HIV. She thinks she's going to die. Charly tries to educate her, life changes but she still has to live it. She says she's very tired and her life is a disaster, she played the game of life badly and she lost. Charly tells her he wants to introduce her to someone who can help and he takes her hand. Oh please don't let it be Candy.
Santi talks to Chava like an adult (he sez), Candy confided to him she feels she's a bad mama. Chava tells Santi his mom is the best in the world. Then Chava pronounces that his dad loves his mom more than Santi does. Santi screws up his face and disagrees but says, hey, this isn't a competition (hah, since when??) then they high five and Santi says it's time to work on mom's surprise.
Isa asks Lucia about her new friend Frederico. Lucia likes Fred but she can't stop thinking about Charly. Isa's advice is that time heals all wounds.
Pau intercepts Santi and complains that he's not paying enough attention to Rocio because he's proccupied by his novia. He brings up that Pau has been gone for more than 8 years so butt out. No, she insists getting all octupus-arms on him, she's jealous because she still feels like his wife. He tells her she's Rocio's mom and that's it, nothing more.
It looks like Candy's in therapy with Barb. Candy tells Barb how it felt the first time she held her baby and how it was when he grew up. We see a lot of cute scenes of Chava growing up. She worked and went to school and now he doesn't want to be with her, blah wah blah wah, by the way she has a boyriend. Babs screeches and jumps for joy and Candy reminds her this is therapy. (Is it a good idea to have a good friend be one's therapist?) Candy tells Barb she has decided to dedicate herself to Santi but she doesn't want to neglect Chava. Barb asks Candy what does she REALLY want? Candy admits all she wants is to be without blame. "Then stop suffering" advises Barb.
Charly and Daniela walk hand in hand to the church. As the bells ring Charly prays for help getting rid of the anger (coraje) he feels. He adds that Daniela's afraid and needs help. They both need help finding a new path.
Santi shows up to Candy's "therapy" with a little surprise and a blindfold. He wants her to go somewhere with him. To the Maracana she hopes! Meanwhile Babs grins from ear to ear; Santi can tell she knows they're novios so he and Babs jump up and down. "Therapy" reminds Candy. Santi shushes Candy and then blindfolds her and leads her from the room. Barb smiles "que bonito" but snorts "and I can't tell anyone."
Pau raids the refrigerator and mutters that he's not going to win, he's just a mosca muerta (he acts so cool butter wouldn't melt in his mouth). Don walks in and wonders to which dead fly she refers. She yells at him for taking her money and then telling Santi everything. He gives her money back and tells her nobody buys him. "I'll throw you in the street too," she mutters.
Candy opens her eyes and sees Chava in a cute little suit holding a big sign "The best mommy in the world". Then with Santi's help, he begins to shyly sing a sweet song for his mom. Suddenly Santi yells "Break it down!" (in English) and Chava begins a hip-hop routine. He checks his cheat sheet just once and then goes crazy, jumping and rapping and concluding with "I want to say I love you, To steal the best years from you, to be your tender thief..." and Santi decides this is enough and closes down the show. (Chava's cute but doesn't quite have the pipes or rhythm that his pal Rocio has.) Santi high fives Chava, his "brotha from anotha motha". And thus ends another wonderful Camil and kid act. Who was it said adults should never act against animals or kids? They have obviously never met Jaime Camil.
Santi and Mario are in a bar. Mario seems drunk and preoccupied as Santi blabs about how much Candy loved Chava's hip hop routine. Mario calls him Shanti and Santi corrects him, "Shanji". Oh right, Shanti Shanti, says Mario, returning to his original pronunciation. Lalo returns from the bathroom and Santi says he didn't miss anything important. I'm not sure what this scene accomplished other than the ongoing joke about mispronouncing names. I sense we missed something important due to botched editing.
Candy and Chava play ugly monster face and she tells him she's the most important thing in her life, in fact she's staying home from work so they can be together. He confirms she's the best mom in the world. Charly interrupts to say Paulina is downstairs. "The witch?" asks Candy. "No, Rocio's mother," corrects Charly. "Yes, the witch," says Candy, the best mom in the world, in front of Chava.
The musketeers are still drinking and trying to remember a song, Mario jumps up and does a quick and twitchy little dance but they still can't figure out the song. Santi starts to probe Mario about his love life, what's he hiding? He makes a kissy face and tortures him a little more and Mario spills it, does Santi already know about him and Pau? Santi assures him he doesn't mind brother, she's he's ex. And no Pau didn't tell him, Donato saw them kissing. Mario is disconcerted but admits he's going out with Pau.
Pau gives Candy some bull about Rocio being traumatized by Santi's relationship with Candy. Puhleeze! Candy doesn't fall for it, why did Pau even come back? Pau tells Candy twice in two different ways that Candy had better not make her mad. (Again with the coraje) Pau says she's come back to resume her role as Rocio's mother and nobody, but NOBODY will take her place.
After mulling over Pau's threats during the commercial Candy sees Pau to the door and reminds her that "ex" means in the past or in other words, already outta here. They bicker a bit more at the door with Pau threatening to use Rocio as a tool against Candy. Candy shuts the door in her face.
Now the musketeers are doing Tequila shots and Santi demonstrates the proper way to drink Tequila, sip it slowly. (Isn't this what Candy showed him way back when?) Mario wants to know why Lalo is in the Abandonados club. Santi points out it's because he used to have a wandering eye for the ladies but now he's faithful. They drink to something.
Candy helps Chava with his homework, name three animals that live in the city. A dog...a cat...and Candy mutters about that witch Paulina having a black cat. "Rocio's mother?" wonder's Chava. Oops, Candy tries to cover but more or less messes up Chava's homework but that's OK because she's the best mom in the world.
Meño and Charly go to Daniela's house to talk to her parents. Meño tells them Charly is HIV positive and the mean dad says "AIDS!?!" and tries to kick Charly out. Daniela tells her papa she's also HIV positive and he slaps her hard across the face. She admits she's the one who gave it to Charly. Cruel papa tells Meño his daughter is dead to him. Cruel papa Guillermo worries about what he will tell hs family and friends. Meño says his daughter needs help and recommends that Guillermo use this as an opportunity to educate people about HIV. While Charly consoles Daniela and her nice mom Guillermo looks constipated, or maybe he's having second thoughts about kicking out his daughter.
Candy packs her bag for the big Interior Beauty rollout. Chava wants to help her and she promises she won't be gone long, her trip will be like lightning.
Over at Pato's house Al reports to Margarita that Pato is not interested in her, he's only interested in his son. Margarita has a plan, Al needs to take control by moving back to her apartment and then Pato will follow her. They are interrupted by the bell and Arturo answers the door. (Oh right, they're one big crappy family again.) It's Greg and boy is she uncomfortable when Marg asks Art, didn't you tell your lover that I'm living here...with you? Naturally Greg beats a hasty retreat and pandemonium ensues. Run Greg Run!!
Raul visits the house of miracles and tells Sole he came not to see Candy but to ask Sole if she had a good time at dinner last night. "No," she teases, "not a good time but a VERY good time."
Meño tells Charly he's worried about Daniela's father. Charly, who has been thinking heavily about life, asks his dad what he wants to do with the rest of his life. They decide to make their lists and help each other realize their goals.
The Institutas are at their Belleza Interior deelio at Televisa studios and the hostess (who is probably an actual famous person but I don't know who she is) introduces Candy, Barb and Ceci along with Tere Murillo of Buen Hogar magazine and Emilio Aliaga of Esmas (he looks kind of uncomfortable). Candy explains the theme of the institute is to help women blah blah blah her website Tu Belleza Interior blah blah blah let me introduce my partners blah blah blah. She's an instant hit and the cameras surround her.
Donato escorts a recovering Tina back into her kitchen for lunch. They talk about her new bracelet that her bro-in-law Mariano gave her. (Who is Mariano?) Donato is concerned it will cut off her circulation and helps her remove it. She's worried to be still waiting for her test results and tells him he's the only friend she has. He teases her about being lovers and she whacks him with her sore arm. Ouch!!
Al has taken Margarita's advice and is leaving Patricio's house. She stomps through the house holding Patito and kicking the stroller on her way out the door. She tells Pato she's out of there and if he wants to see his baby he'll have to visit. She slaps his hand and says no she doesn't want a ride, she'll call a taxi. "Alone again," he mutters sadly, "they took him away."
Tomorrow: Pau suggests she and Pato join forces to divide Santi and Candy. Candy discovers Pau's lipstick on one of Santi's hankies.
Coraje = courage, anger
Es una mosca muerta = Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth (Lit. = he's a dead fly)
No hay nada como el tiempo para sanarlas las cosas = Time heals all wounds
Ojo alegre = wandering eye (Lit. = happy eye)
Relampago = lightning
Tonight I learned that "coraje" means not only courage but also anger.
We are in...Guadalajara! And Chava has a tantrum because he wants to live with papa not mama. Meño counts the ways Candy has been the best mother in the world and his advice to her is you can't be with someone you don't love (Pato) just to make your kid happy. "But Chava is my life!" she wails. He says if she's not happy Chava will not be happy.
Chava comes back, sees mom crying and they make up. Fuera dolor! He wants to visit Rocio and mom says she has something to show him first.
Candy makes Chava another box, it's an anger (coraje) box. When he gets mad he yells in the box. His trial run is "It make me really angry that my mami doesn't want to live with my papa!!!!" and hey, he feels better. Candy's a bit impactada at his vehemence but she feels better too. Charly shows up and tells Chava that Rocio is downstairs waiting for him.
Alicia struts around Pato's house with the baby threatening to Pato that she and Patito are moving out and will be perfectly happy without a papa.
Candy calls Santi and complains to him about Chava's tantrum. He assures her she's not a bad mom. As he talks Rocio runs in and steals the glass of OJ he just poured. He dispenses advice and pours another OJ; Beto runs in and steal this one. He pours another and almost drinks it...but Chava runs in and grabs it. He tells Candy he loves her and she responds by blowing her nose into the phone. "Very nice" comments Santi.
Jaime watches the kids and Zamora shows up to discuss their (his and papa's, oops I mean Jaime's) performance. As they talk Zam's mom calls and Zam tells her his new friend plays the piano. Uh oh, mom has hated pianistas since he was young so Zam takes the call elsewhere. Did you all catch that? MOM HATES PIANISTAS. GET IT?
Santi shows up and wants to talk to Chava hombre-to-hombre...en privado.
Daniela and Charly have lunch and she shares her anguish with having to tell her family she has HIV. She thinks she's going to die. Charly tries to educate her, life changes but she still has to live it. She says she's very tired and her life is a disaster, she played the game of life badly and she lost. Charly tells her he wants to introduce her to someone who can help and he takes her hand. Oh please don't let it be Candy.
Santi talks to Chava like an adult (he sez), Candy confided to him she feels she's a bad mama. Chava tells Santi his mom is the best in the world. Then Chava pronounces that his dad loves his mom more than Santi does. Santi screws up his face and disagrees but says, hey, this isn't a competition (hah, since when??) then they high five and Santi says it's time to work on mom's surprise.
Isa asks Lucia about her new friend Frederico. Lucia likes Fred but she can't stop thinking about Charly. Isa's advice is that time heals all wounds.
Pau intercepts Santi and complains that he's not paying enough attention to Rocio because he's proccupied by his novia. He brings up that Pau has been gone for more than 8 years so butt out. No, she insists getting all octupus-arms on him, she's jealous because she still feels like his wife. He tells her she's Rocio's mom and that's it, nothing more.
It looks like Candy's in therapy with Barb. Candy tells Barb how it felt the first time she held her baby and how it was when he grew up. We see a lot of cute scenes of Chava growing up. She worked and went to school and now he doesn't want to be with her, blah wah blah wah, by the way she has a boyriend. Babs screeches and jumps for joy and Candy reminds her this is therapy. (Is it a good idea to have a good friend be one's therapist?) Candy tells Barb she has decided to dedicate herself to Santi but she doesn't want to neglect Chava. Barb asks Candy what does she REALLY want? Candy admits all she wants is to be without blame. "Then stop suffering" advises Barb.
Charly and Daniela walk hand in hand to the church. As the bells ring Charly prays for help getting rid of the anger (coraje) he feels. He adds that Daniela's afraid and needs help. They both need help finding a new path.
Santi shows up to Candy's "therapy" with a little surprise and a blindfold. He wants her to go somewhere with him. To the Maracana she hopes! Meanwhile Babs grins from ear to ear; Santi can tell she knows they're novios so he and Babs jump up and down. "Therapy" reminds Candy. Santi shushes Candy and then blindfolds her and leads her from the room. Barb smiles "que bonito" but snorts "and I can't tell anyone."
Pau raids the refrigerator and mutters that he's not going to win, he's just a mosca muerta (he acts so cool butter wouldn't melt in his mouth). Don walks in and wonders to which dead fly she refers. She yells at him for taking her money and then telling Santi everything. He gives her money back and tells her nobody buys him. "I'll throw you in the street too," she mutters.
Candy opens her eyes and sees Chava in a cute little suit holding a big sign "The best mommy in the world". Then with Santi's help, he begins to shyly sing a sweet song for his mom. Suddenly Santi yells "Break it down!" (in English) and Chava begins a hip-hop routine. He checks his cheat sheet just once and then goes crazy, jumping and rapping and concluding with "I want to say I love you, To steal the best years from you, to be your tender thief..." and Santi decides this is enough and closes down the show. (Chava's cute but doesn't quite have the pipes or rhythm that his pal Rocio has.) Santi high fives Chava, his "brotha from anotha motha". And thus ends another wonderful Camil and kid act. Who was it said adults should never act against animals or kids? They have obviously never met Jaime Camil.
Santi and Mario are in a bar. Mario seems drunk and preoccupied as Santi blabs about how much Candy loved Chava's hip hop routine. Mario calls him Shanti and Santi corrects him, "Shanji". Oh right, Shanti Shanti, says Mario, returning to his original pronunciation. Lalo returns from the bathroom and Santi says he didn't miss anything important. I'm not sure what this scene accomplished other than the ongoing joke about mispronouncing names. I sense we missed something important due to botched editing.
Candy and Chava play ugly monster face and she tells him she's the most important thing in her life, in fact she's staying home from work so they can be together. He confirms she's the best mom in the world. Charly interrupts to say Paulina is downstairs. "The witch?" asks Candy. "No, Rocio's mother," corrects Charly. "Yes, the witch," says Candy, the best mom in the world, in front of Chava.
The musketeers are still drinking and trying to remember a song, Mario jumps up and does a quick and twitchy little dance but they still can't figure out the song. Santi starts to probe Mario about his love life, what's he hiding? He makes a kissy face and tortures him a little more and Mario spills it, does Santi already know about him and Pau? Santi assures him he doesn't mind brother, she's he's ex. And no Pau didn't tell him, Donato saw them kissing. Mario is disconcerted but admits he's going out with Pau.
Pau gives Candy some bull about Rocio being traumatized by Santi's relationship with Candy. Puhleeze! Candy doesn't fall for it, why did Pau even come back? Pau tells Candy twice in two different ways that Candy had better not make her mad. (Again with the coraje) Pau says she's come back to resume her role as Rocio's mother and nobody, but NOBODY will take her place.
After mulling over Pau's threats during the commercial Candy sees Pau to the door and reminds her that "ex" means in the past or in other words, already outta here. They bicker a bit more at the door with Pau threatening to use Rocio as a tool against Candy. Candy shuts the door in her face.
Now the musketeers are doing Tequila shots and Santi demonstrates the proper way to drink Tequila, sip it slowly. (Isn't this what Candy showed him way back when?) Mario wants to know why Lalo is in the Abandonados club. Santi points out it's because he used to have a wandering eye for the ladies but now he's faithful. They drink to something.
Candy helps Chava with his homework, name three animals that live in the city. A dog...a cat...and Candy mutters about that witch Paulina having a black cat. "Rocio's mother?" wonder's Chava. Oops, Candy tries to cover but more or less messes up Chava's homework but that's OK because she's the best mom in the world.
Meño and Charly go to Daniela's house to talk to her parents. Meño tells them Charly is HIV positive and the mean dad says "AIDS!?!" and tries to kick Charly out. Daniela tells her papa she's also HIV positive and he slaps her hard across the face. She admits she's the one who gave it to Charly. Cruel papa tells Meño his daughter is dead to him. Cruel papa Guillermo worries about what he will tell hs family and friends. Meño says his daughter needs help and recommends that Guillermo use this as an opportunity to educate people about HIV. While Charly consoles Daniela and her nice mom Guillermo looks constipated, or maybe he's having second thoughts about kicking out his daughter.
Candy packs her bag for the big Interior Beauty rollout. Chava wants to help her and she promises she won't be gone long, her trip will be like lightning.
Over at Pato's house Al reports to Margarita that Pato is not interested in her, he's only interested in his son. Margarita has a plan, Al needs to take control by moving back to her apartment and then Pato will follow her. They are interrupted by the bell and Arturo answers the door. (Oh right, they're one big crappy family again.) It's Greg and boy is she uncomfortable when Marg asks Art, didn't you tell your lover that I'm living here...with you? Naturally Greg beats a hasty retreat and pandemonium ensues. Run Greg Run!!
Raul visits the house of miracles and tells Sole he came not to see Candy but to ask Sole if she had a good time at dinner last night. "No," she teases, "not a good time but a VERY good time."
Meño tells Charly he's worried about Daniela's father. Charly, who has been thinking heavily about life, asks his dad what he wants to do with the rest of his life. They decide to make their lists and help each other realize their goals.
The Institutas are at their Belleza Interior deelio at Televisa studios and the hostess (who is probably an actual famous person but I don't know who she is) introduces Candy, Barb and Ceci along with Tere Murillo of Buen Hogar magazine and Emilio Aliaga of Esmas (he looks kind of uncomfortable). Candy explains the theme of the institute is to help women blah blah blah her website Tu Belleza Interior blah blah blah let me introduce my partners blah blah blah. She's an instant hit and the cameras surround her.
Donato escorts a recovering Tina back into her kitchen for lunch. They talk about her new bracelet that her bro-in-law Mariano gave her. (Who is Mariano?) Donato is concerned it will cut off her circulation and helps her remove it. She's worried to be still waiting for her test results and tells him he's the only friend she has. He teases her about being lovers and she whacks him with her sore arm. Ouch!!
Al has taken Margarita's advice and is leaving Patricio's house. She stomps through the house holding Patito and kicking the stroller on her way out the door. She tells Pato she's out of there and if he wants to see his baby he'll have to visit. She slaps his hand and says no she doesn't want a ride, she'll call a taxi. "Alone again," he mutters sadly, "they took him away."
Tomorrow: Pau suggests she and Pato join forces to divide Santi and Candy. Candy discovers Pau's lipstick on one of Santi's hankies.
Coraje = courage, anger
Es una mosca muerta = Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth (Lit. = he's a dead fly)
No hay nada como el tiempo para sanarlas las cosas = Time heals all wounds
Ojo alegre = wandering eye (Lit. = happy eye)
Relampago = lightning
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Sylvia, thank you for your years and years of fun with me on this blog! And I'm so glad I finally got a chance to meet yoU! You're a great team-mate!
Thanks Sylvia. Good stuff!
Notice at the press conference, they still use the old name of the institute? I suppose Marissa won't dare sue them from hiding.
At the bar with Mario. When Santi said he knew, I think Mario thought Santi knew that Pau ditched Santi for Mario. And there is Santi acting all cool with it! Then Mario realized, Santi only knows that Mario and Pau are involved NOW or recently.
Over on TNW, I read an article that the swine flu is affecting telenovelas. No kisses, no hugs, no besitos in greeting or saying goodbye. Gee, it sounds like Candy set the rules!
So when the current weeks of Mexico filming reach the US in a few months, we'll have to change our theme:
Telenovelas. Sunday School without sex!
Notice at the press conference, they still use the old name of the institute? I suppose Marissa won't dare sue them from hiding.
At the bar with Mario. When Santi said he knew, I think Mario thought Santi knew that Pau ditched Santi for Mario. And there is Santi acting all cool with it! Then Mario realized, Santi only knows that Mario and Pau are involved NOW or recently.
Over on TNW, I read an article that the swine flu is affecting telenovelas. No kisses, no hugs, no besitos in greeting or saying goodbye. Gee, it sounds like Candy set the rules!
So when the current weeks of Mexico filming reach the US in a few months, we'll have to change our theme:
Telenovelas. Sunday School without sex!
Hey Sylvia...first of all congratulations. Who were your teammates when you first started? I didn't get into this as a reader until it had expanded way beyond one show. Anyway, many thanks to Melinama and to the pioneers, which include our beloved Captain Sylvia Sharkbait!
Loved your characterization of Alicia. She STRUTS around the house. Alicia pretty much struts all the time, and clearly (to me at least) has the best body of any of the lovelies on this program.
I also loved the "oh please, don't let it be Candy" when Charlie said he had someone who could help Daniela.
And now to the big question: Should you have a good friend be your therapist?
Answer: Your good friend IS your therapist. When we were taking classes in counseling techniques (learning to listen without jumping in with glib advice, etc., building a good relationship before gently confronting any self-defeating behavior: "speaking the truth in love": and being wisely supportive while the person himself came up with the solution) the instructors told us that friends basically do the same things and that as many problems were solved around the kitchen table with a cup of coffee as were handled in therapist's offices.
I well remember when my husband and I were in marriage counseling, the first thing the therapist told us was that HE COULDN'T HELP US. We could only help ourselves. But he was there as a third party as we worked through our issues. Interesting.
Loved your characterization of Alicia. She STRUTS around the house. Alicia pretty much struts all the time, and clearly (to me at least) has the best body of any of the lovelies on this program.
I also loved the "oh please, don't let it be Candy" when Charlie said he had someone who could help Daniela.
And now to the big question: Should you have a good friend be your therapist?
Answer: Your good friend IS your therapist. When we were taking classes in counseling techniques (learning to listen without jumping in with glib advice, etc., building a good relationship before gently confronting any self-defeating behavior: "speaking the truth in love": and being wisely supportive while the person himself came up with the solution) the instructors told us that friends basically do the same things and that as many problems were solved around the kitchen table with a cup of coffee as were handled in therapist's offices.
I well remember when my husband and I were in marriage counseling, the first thing the therapist told us was that HE COULDN'T HELP US. We could only help ourselves. But he was there as a third party as we worked through our issues. Interesting.
Congratulations! What an impressive milestone. Thank you for all of your dedication, your excellent summaries, insight and great humor. That said, I feel your accomplishments go above and beyond. Sylvia, your kindess and generosity shine. You make everyone feel not only welcome but as though their opinions matter. Your voice has and will continue to add so much.
Your vocabulary is so appreciated. My favorite line was: "He tells Candy he loves her and she responds by blowing her nose into the phone. "Very nice" comments Santi." Excellent!
I enjoyed the scenes of the kids taking Santi's juice too. Another subtle, low key scene that had me smiling. Love any scene with Santi and the kids and Pat and the kids. Isabel interacts well with them too but then she interacts with everyone well. She's a great actress, I could watch her all day.
Thankfully, Meño was able to dispense some wise advise to our semi heroine: "...if she's not happy Chava will not be happy." I just wish I could care more about Candy, but I can't.
Well, Paula and Ali are up to their old tricks. Hoping Pat stays strong and doesn't go to the dark side with Paula.
Judy, your ocmments were so poignant. I've always listened to and trusted advice from my dearest friends. And of course you are so right, we need to help ourselves but often, it's with a little help from our friends. :)
Paula, thanks for the update. I have wondering how quickly and in what fashion the swine flu would be affecting telenova production.
Sylvia, again, thank you!
Diana in MA
Your vocabulary is so appreciated. My favorite line was: "He tells Candy he loves her and she responds by blowing her nose into the phone. "Very nice" comments Santi." Excellent!
I enjoyed the scenes of the kids taking Santi's juice too. Another subtle, low key scene that had me smiling. Love any scene with Santi and the kids and Pat and the kids. Isabel interacts well with them too but then she interacts with everyone well. She's a great actress, I could watch her all day.
Thankfully, Meño was able to dispense some wise advise to our semi heroine: "...if she's not happy Chava will not be happy." I just wish I could care more about Candy, but I can't.
Well, Paula and Ali are up to their old tricks. Hoping Pat stays strong and doesn't go to the dark side with Paula.
Judy, your ocmments were so poignant. I've always listened to and trusted advice from my dearest friends. And of course you are so right, we need to help ourselves but often, it's with a little help from our friends. :)
Paula, thanks for the update. I have wondering how quickly and in what fashion the swine flu would be affecting telenova production.
Sylvia, again, thank you!
Diana in MA
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Congratulations Sylvia, 3 years! I think you are due a promotion! But... Admiral Sylvia Sharkbait doesn't quite have the same ring. :-)
Watching the avances, is something going to finally come between Candy and Santi? Things have been just too hunky-dory between them lately. It's like the show should be finishing up. :-) If so, looks like it will be Candy going off as I just can't see Santi getting too upset.
And another temptation for Pato to go to the darkside. Everyone seems to be trying to turn him to it. Fight it Pato, seek the force. :-)
JeffMN
Watching the avances, is something going to finally come between Candy and Santi? Things have been just too hunky-dory between them lately. It's like the show should be finishing up. :-) If so, looks like it will be Candy going off as I just can't see Santi getting too upset.
And another temptation for Pato to go to the darkside. Everyone seems to be trying to turn him to it. Fight it Pato, seek the force. :-)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 1, 2009 at 9:52:00 AM EDT
: Friday, May 1, 2009 at 9:52:00 AM EDT
Thank you for the interesting recap Sylvia!
I was happy to see Candy stand up to Pau and not run away. That's what I like about Mario, he can stop Pau in her tracks.
Alicia REALLY makes me nervous the way she hauls the baby around. I don't know if she is carrying a doll or the real thing but I'm waiting for her to drop it.
Poor Pat. I think he could be perfectly happy with all three of the kids and just leave the mama's alone.
I saw on TV that in Portugal they use the "sh" sound and wonder if that's any connection to Mario's use of the word Shanti?
Carrie L.
I was happy to see Candy stand up to Pau and not run away. That's what I like about Mario, he can stop Pau in her tracks.
Alicia REALLY makes me nervous the way she hauls the baby around. I don't know if she is carrying a doll or the real thing but I'm waiting for her to drop it.
Poor Pat. I think he could be perfectly happy with all three of the kids and just leave the mama's alone.
I saw on TV that in Portugal they use the "sh" sound and wonder if that's any connection to Mario's use of the word Shanti?
Carrie L.
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 1, 2009 at 10:08:00 AM EDT
: Friday, May 1, 2009 at 10:08:00 AM EDT
Judy, that's a very good point about good friends actually being therapists. I guess they are.
To answer your question about the long-time recappers who are still recapping, they are: Jean who is now doing Dona Barbara (solo!), Ferro (who I believe started recapping La Fea solo), Julie (who jumped in and helped/replaced Ferro), Jardinera, Jody(aka JR), Kris (aka Fuego), and I'm terribly sorry if I've left anyone out. It's hard to remember after all these telenovelas!
Hey Jeff, since I promoted myself to Captain in the first place I guess I can promote or demote myself any time. But I like Cap'n so I think I'll stick with it for a while. They sure like to tease us with their advances, don't they? It's hard to imagine Candy being anything but a gigantic tease, but the walls of Jerico came tumbling down so why not Candy?
Diana, and others, thanks so much for your kind words. Learning Spanish was the original intent for being here but it is the commenters that keep the batteries running, right recappers?
Interesting info about how swine flu is affecting the telenovelas. I suppose it will also end up being a PSA in future shows too. Thanks for the update Paula.
OK, I'm off to work, I'll talk to y'all later.
To answer your question about the long-time recappers who are still recapping, they are: Jean who is now doing Dona Barbara (solo!), Ferro (who I believe started recapping La Fea solo), Julie (who jumped in and helped/replaced Ferro), Jardinera, Jody(aka JR), Kris (aka Fuego), and I'm terribly sorry if I've left anyone out. It's hard to remember after all these telenovelas!
Hey Jeff, since I promoted myself to Captain in the first place I guess I can promote or demote myself any time. But I like Cap'n so I think I'll stick with it for a while. They sure like to tease us with their advances, don't they? It's hard to imagine Candy being anything but a gigantic tease, but the walls of Jerico came tumbling down so why not Candy?
Diana, and others, thanks so much for your kind words. Learning Spanish was the original intent for being here but it is the commenters that keep the batteries running, right recappers?
Interesting info about how swine flu is affecting the telenovelas. I suppose it will also end up being a PSA in future shows too. Thanks for the update Paula.
OK, I'm off to work, I'll talk to y'all later.
Carrie L., JINX!! We commented at the same time and you beat me by a millisecond! I almost mentioned how careless Al seems with the baby but I think I was trying to ignore it. And I'll bet you're right about Mario affecting a portugese accent. Remember Paula told us JC has Brazilian heritage...
I noticed when she was hauling the baby it's head was bobbing a little (a definite no-no when hauling babies). Then I wondered if it's a doll or the actual thing.
I thought it was careless and dumb the way she kicked the stroller. Unless she's going to order another one pronto, she may actually need that thing.
If I were the baby/actor's mother I would be biting my nails a little when Ali is around.
Carrie L.
I thought it was careless and dumb the way she kicked the stroller. Unless she's going to order another one pronto, she may actually need that thing.
If I were the baby/actor's mother I would be biting my nails a little when Ali is around.
Carrie L.
Permalink posted by : Friday, May 1, 2009 at 10:31:00 AM EDT
: Friday, May 1, 2009 at 10:31:00 AM EDT
Happy anniversary Sylvia. I've been enjoying your recaps for quite a while now as well as your witty and perceptive comments. I was actually expecting Charly to take Dani to the institute. I was feeling really sad for Pato last night. His world is crumbling even worse than he thinks it is.
Carlos
Carlos
Cap'n Sylvia, Ma'am, congratulates for your perseverance and many thanks for the continued excellent recapping!!
Melinama, the military solution is to add little metal stars or oak leaves to the ribbons... how 'bout Photoshopping a gold star for each year of service on the recappers' photos on the side frame? And thanks to you, Ms. M, for starting this in the first place!
Judy, I'm sure the people who provided me training and counseling some years ago did so with much love and they showed how much they wanted to be my friend. Paula may have similar memories. SSgt McElrath and SSgt Oldham were two sensitive New Age guys. ;-)
Paula, I finally figured out what Candy's staccato laugh sounds like.Re the "Shanti" thing, wouldn't Castilian Spanish use that pronunciation, too?
Thanks again, Sylvia, and congratulations!!
Melinama, the military solution is to add little metal stars or oak leaves to the ribbons... how 'bout Photoshopping a gold star for each year of service on the recappers' photos on the side frame? And thanks to you, Ms. M, for starting this in the first place!
Judy, I'm sure the people who provided me training and counseling some years ago did so with much love and they showed how much they wanted to be my friend. Paula may have similar memories. SSgt McElrath and SSgt Oldham were two sensitive New Age guys. ;-)
Paula, I finally figured out what Candy's staccato laugh sounds like.Re the "Shanti" thing, wouldn't Castilian Spanish use that pronunciation, too?
Thanks again, Sylvia, and congratulations!!
Alright Mike....I KNOW how sensitive and caring those sergeants are....NOT!!!! Interesting that you can remember their names....I probably would have obliterated that memory.
Judy, some people you never forget. I have no doubt Paula can tell you the name(s) of her drill sergeant(s).
Thanks, Sylvia, another great recap and thanks for the vocab. Also congrats on your 3 years! Knowing how much work these recaps take, I'm in awe!
Minor vocab point: Contar can mean count or tell, so I think Barbara was saying "Darn, I can't tell anyone" (she had just been told the "secret" of Candy and Santi's being novios). I've often heard the characters say "cuentame" when they want some gossip.
I agree that Candy didn't seem like the best mom in the world when she was calling Pau a witch. I think in discussing the 3 animals with Chava, first she said a witch (he said that's not an animal), then a fly (he said it was an insect), and after he picked his third animal, she wanted to add a rat, but Chava said he already had 3 animals. I'm looking forward to the battle between Candy and Pau.
There actually is a website with the name they pointed out (www.tubellezainterior.com), with all different hosts from our characters, but it looks like something Candy would do. I don't know if it has anything to do with the show.
Minor vocab point: Contar can mean count or tell, so I think Barbara was saying "Darn, I can't tell anyone" (she had just been told the "secret" of Candy and Santi's being novios). I've often heard the characters say "cuentame" when they want some gossip.
I agree that Candy didn't seem like the best mom in the world when she was calling Pau a witch. I think in discussing the 3 animals with Chava, first she said a witch (he said that's not an animal), then a fly (he said it was an insect), and after he picked his third animal, she wanted to add a rat, but Chava said he already had 3 animals. I'm looking forward to the battle between Candy and Pau.
There actually is a website with the name they pointed out (www.tubellezainterior.com), with all different hosts from our characters, but it looks like something Candy would do. I don't know if it has anything to do with the show.
Candy also suggested a vulture, and then a "two-legged rat" (which reminded me of Luciana's drunken wedding singing on Guapos). Nice, Candy.
Candy needs to get a grip. She calls Santi having a total meltdown over her son wanting to spend more time with his father, like, down the street, and meanwhile Santi has NO IDEA where to find his infant son but she's just all, "don't worry; it will work out."
I don't get how the website launch got such media attention. It's not like this is the first website offering women beauty, health, and relationship advice.
Great recap, Sylvia, and happy recapping anniversary.
Candy needs to get a grip. She calls Santi having a total meltdown over her son wanting to spend more time with his father, like, down the street, and meanwhile Santi has NO IDEA where to find his infant son but she's just all, "don't worry; it will work out."
I don't get how the website launch got such media attention. It's not like this is the first website offering women beauty, health, and relationship advice.
Great recap, Sylvia, and happy recapping anniversary.
Judy, I got a bad burn from a tailpipe 30 years ago. The scar remains so I'll never forget it. In the same way, I'll never forget basic training.
Our Drill Sergeant (DS) wasn't so bad, but First DS Ringo (the one in charge of the other DS's) was scary! He was eight feet tall with fangs and horns and long claws and scary music played when he was in the room... well, that's how I remember him, anyway.
But in '77, it was just after the army integrated male/female, and we were in women-only Basic with a male DS. At least half of us were one month out of high school, and terrified.
Basic is all about learning to submit to authority. The army can't work without it. Men's Basic had a bunch of young bucks that needed to be broken before they could be trained (argue with the army, not with me). But the women were already scared and ready to accept authority. Scare tactics would've crushed many, irreparably (we had one girl who did go around the bend). So instead, a lot of the training was built on "yes you can (or else!)." Rather than the break-and-rebuild techniques the young bucks needed, we needed our confidence built. We discovered that, if we worked under authority, we were able to do things we never thought we were capable of. If DS Williams expected the impossible of us, we knew we were capable of it, because DS Williams said so. We would've walked through a fire for him.
Our Drill Sergeant (DS) wasn't so bad, but First DS Ringo (the one in charge of the other DS's) was scary! He was eight feet tall with fangs and horns and long claws and scary music played when he was in the room... well, that's how I remember him, anyway.
But in '77, it was just after the army integrated male/female, and we were in women-only Basic with a male DS. At least half of us were one month out of high school, and terrified.
Basic is all about learning to submit to authority. The army can't work without it. Men's Basic had a bunch of young bucks that needed to be broken before they could be trained (argue with the army, not with me). But the women were already scared and ready to accept authority. Scare tactics would've crushed many, irreparably (we had one girl who did go around the bend). So instead, a lot of the training was built on "yes you can (or else!)." Rather than the break-and-rebuild techniques the young bucks needed, we needed our confidence built. We discovered that, if we worked under authority, we were able to do things we never thought we were capable of. If DS Williams expected the impossible of us, we knew we were capable of it, because DS Williams said so. We would've walked through a fire for him.
Hombre thank you!! I just amended my recap to reflect the correction. Those false friends get me every time. (In Spanish, not real life thank goodness.) Gotta dash...
Paula...glad to hear the Army recognized that draconien techniques weren't necessary with young women. Indeed, confidence-building IS what we need.
But I loved both your and Mike's stories. I would have washed out pronto I know. I'm a wuss. Thank goodness I had alternatives.
Julia...EXACTLY. When Candy breaks a nail, it's a crisis. When someone else get's stabbed, it's don't worry, it'll work out. Aaargh.
But I loved both your and Mike's stories. I would have washed out pronto I know. I'm a wuss. Thank goodness I had alternatives.
Julia...EXACTLY. When Candy breaks a nail, it's a crisis. When someone else get's stabbed, it's don't worry, it'll work out. Aaargh.
Notice, Candy told Chava to tell his coraje to an empty box, but Charly told Danielle to tell her coraje to God. My money's on God.
In most TNs, all prayers are directed to the virgin. Not so, in Tontas.
* Isabel prayed to the virgin
* I think Candy prays to the virgin. How about Chava? Anyone remember?
* Charly prayed for Daniele to El Señor (used for "God" more commonly than "Dios"). He was facing the crucifix, the virgin, and a third thing I forget.
* When Meño was angry in church, he addressed God. I especially liked that scene. After he yelled at God, then he was ready to listen and he got his answer. I've done the same, with the same result.
* Roc prayed to her guardian angel.
* When Santiago prayed for his baby in the family meeting, I think he just started, and he didn't address it to anyone.
Also notice that almost never does anyone cross himself. Even when Charlie and Daniele entered the church; even at Lucía's memorial service for her parents.
In most TNs, all prayers are directed to the virgin. Not so, in Tontas.
* Isabel prayed to the virgin
* I think Candy prays to the virgin. How about Chava? Anyone remember?
* Charly prayed for Daniele to El Señor (used for "God" more commonly than "Dios"). He was facing the crucifix, the virgin, and a third thing I forget.
* When Meño was angry in church, he addressed God. I especially liked that scene. After he yelled at God, then he was ready to listen and he got his answer. I've done the same, with the same result.
* Roc prayed to her guardian angel.
* When Santiago prayed for his baby in the family meeting, I think he just started, and he didn't address it to anyone.
Also notice that almost never does anyone cross himself. Even when Charlie and Daniele entered the church; even at Lucía's memorial service for her parents.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ANNIVERSARY!!!!! Gosh I just can't believe it's been that long. Wow.
Great recap too, I love the best Mom in the world bit, because I sort of noticed that too. How funny. Yep Camil and kids...it works for sure.
Thanks again for such a funny recap. I haven't seen this but read anyway and it's great.
Great recap too, I love the best Mom in the world bit, because I sort of noticed that too. How funny. Yep Camil and kids...it works for sure.
Thanks again for such a funny recap. I haven't seen this but read anyway and it's great.
Yes, Kris,
Camil and children,
Camil and elderly women,
Camil and his best bud,
Camil alone and lonely,
Camil and hamsters, ...
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Camil and hamsters, ...
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