Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Mañana es Para Siempre, Tuesday, July --Ep #115: We move about a millimeter down the road to resolution.

Our first bit of new material tonight is the continuation of the conversation between Lili, Artemio, and Dead!Ciro. Lili says that Eduardo is going to come save her. Artemio is surprised to hear Eddie's name. Ciro notices this and points it out, adding that it sounds like Artemio knows who Eddie is. Artemio says that Eddie is dead and asks if she didn't know. Ciro wonders why Artemio is saying this if it's not true. Lili explains that she sees Eduardo, but other people don't see him even when he's right in front of them. That's hilarious--I love the way she's being honest, but it still sounds like she's nuts. Artemio asks if she's seen him, but Ciro warns her not to answer, so she doesn't. Artemio wants to know where she's seen him, but Ciro tells her to be careful. Lili replies that there's no danger, because Eduardo is the White King (she picks up the chess piece for illustrative purposes). She smiles fondly and Ciro nods his approval.

Fernanda tells Santiago that they need to come up with a way to find Aurora. Santi says he's going to go to Pueblo Purificación as soon as the situation with Lili is cleared up. "Someone there must know who that man is!" Santi says that Barbie offered her help and said that if anything bad happens to Aurora it's all Barbie's fault. He's enthusiastic, but Fernanda reminds him that they have more than enough ("de sobra") reasons not to trust Evil Barbie (whoo, and she doesn't even know the half of what Evil Barbie has done!). Fer gets him to promise that he's not going to say anything else…to who, exactly? Oh, Barbie. Fer is sure that Barbie is behind all the bad stuff ("desgracias") that's been happening to the family.

Barbie chews out Obregon for calling her and asking about the drop plan, etc. He wonders what's going to happen if he doesn't give Lili back. Barbie says that it won't make any difference to him whether Lili comes home or not, that she'll give him enough money to hide. "But if you ask one more impertinent question, I'll forget our deal and you'll be poorer than a dead rat!" Obregon agrees to follow orders. Barbie reminds him to scram once he gets his money.

Fernanda calls Flor from her room (with Damian sleeping in the bed). She apologizes for not calling earlier, but fills Flor in that the whole thing is down to Jaime Correa. She tells her to get her uniform on and get back to her old job. No, Flor! Don't do it! Be free! Fer says they all owe her a big apology, especially Anibal.

Who is currently listening to Camilo complain about not wanting to get married. Hey, there, Sunkist, you're no prize either. Anibal reminds him that they've already talked about this, so just git 'r done. Camilo says he'd rather die. Ooh, the line starts here, orange boy, be careful what you wish for! Anibal says dying will be the only useful thing he can do if the deal with Power Milk caves. Camilo says it's no big deal…someone else will help them out. Anibal says now that Camiii's gotten so bold ("envalentonado") he'll just go tell daddy to forget about the help Steve and Franco are giving them with the Liliana situation. Camilo whines some more about not wanting to get married. Anibal kind of mocks Cami for thinking he could take Norton's niece home and get some and says now he's just pissed that things didn't go the way he wanted. Camilo agrees, but says it's not faaaaair that he should have to get married because of it. Anibal sagely advises that he think of it as a business deal--"You marry her, we get their support, get Lili back to the clinic, and you can divorce her the following week." Anibal offers him a bonus for, um, "helping" the company with an international deal. Scumbag. Camilo says he's scaaaaared of marriage. Anibal says it has its advantages and it's how Camilo is going to get what he wanted in the first place. He says "just think, you'll get to marry a virgin" and then something about how that's going to come into play when he asks for the divorce--if someone else caught this let me know. Otherwise I read it all as "assholery, assholery, assholery, cat butt."

Venus is likewise panicking to Martina that she might actually have to marry this guy. Steve's blasé reaction to the news that Camilo is ready to put his head on the chopping block only reinforced her fears. She called Martina so they could work out what Venus should do.

Franco hands over the ginormous wad of cash to Gonzalo. Gonzalo promises they'll return the money as quickly as they can. Gonzalo says he feels like he owes Liliana something and he's not going to be able to pay it back while she lives. He feels guilty for her being locked up for so long. Franco hands Gonzo his glasses and says he's sure Gonzo will have a chance to make things right. Gonzalo thanks Franco for giving him the opportunity to see his daughter again and tell her how much she means to him. He says he's infinitely grateful to Franco. Franco asks for a favor. He thinks it's too risky to let Barbie hand over the money alone. Gonzo agrees, but says Barbie's so brave that she's willing to do anything to rescue Lili. Franco says that the president of Power Milk has placed a condition on the handing over of the money. Ha! I love it! These people are so pathetic that he can make them do anything just so they won't lose the PM money. The alleged condition is that Franco go with Barbie. Gonzalo is relieved and says he'll feel much better about staying home if Franco is with her. Oh, he's so fickle. Didn't he mistrust him about ten outfits back because of something Barbie told him? It's like someone hits the reset button on this guy every morning--must be those special sleepytime drops from Barbie. The devil herself walks in. Gonzo announces that the money is here. Barbie thanks Franco. Gonzo breaks it to her that Franco is going with her. She looks like she'd really like to rip his head off with her bare hands, but she has to hold herself back.

Barbie reminds Franco that disobeying Obregon's orders could get Lili killed. Franco says there's always a risk with these situations, but he's also worried about Barbie's life in addition to Lili's. Franco says everything points to Obregon having the help of criminals ("delincuentes") in the kidnapping. He holds his hands out as if to say "how are you going to argue with me now?"

Fernanda skulks around downstairs before heading out the front door. Priscila sees her leave.

Venus asks Martina what she should do if Camilo comes back and says he wants to marry her by "all three laws" ("los tres leyes"). After considerable research…ok, ok, I looked at one site…this seems to refer to (1) civil, (2) church, and there are several suggestions about the third one being "by force," ("por fuerza") "because you're an idiot," ("por tonto") or "for love" ("por amor"). So, "por lo civil, por la iglesia, y por" one of the other three. Boy, I sure hate trying to explain why these things are funny. My thought is that she should forget about the "tres leyes" and just have some "tres leches cake." What? It was funnier in my head. Anyway, Martina says Venus should Just Say No and be done with it. Venus doesn't think that'll be so easy, after all she told Steve she'd stick with ("atorar") the plan until the end. What worries her most is…Martina surmises that it's that Venus is falling in love with El Gringo Esteve. Oh, just wait till he brings her home to mama, what a fun time that will be.

Said Gringo is talking to himself about how well Venus is carrying out the plan and how excited she was about having Camilo come and ask for her hand ("la pedida de mano"). "So why does it bother you!?" He shouts at himself. While also slapping himself. Which was weird. Esteve mutters that it's absurd…"Venus would never fall in love with a bland ("desabrido") gringo like you. Eets a fact." I swear, I'm welling up. Esteve may be a lot of things, but I wouldn't call him bland. His screwing with Camilo has been one of the highlights of some otherwise dull episodes. Pobre Esteve! Come on, man, if anyone deserves a hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold, it's you!

Barbie asks if Franco is suggesting they think like the criminals he assumes Obregon is working with. Franco babbles about the "experts" saying that's the thing to do. Franco says he's been trying to do this since he heard about the whole thing. Barbie tries to argue, but Franco says those criminals have already figured out that Gonzalo would do anything to get his daughter back. "Sir, how much do you think they'd ask you to pay for your wife's freedom?" Oh, nicely done! He has some good points there. Or he would if it was someone other than creepy little Obregon waiting for them. Franco says if she goes alone, she'll be vulnerable and they aren't going to miss an opportunity to take advantage of it. Barbie thinks he's exaggerating, but Gonzo doesn't. This is why sometimes it's not wise to be too good at your job. Gonzo says those cruel people ("desalmados") aren't going to be satisfied if they could get double what they've already asked for. Barbie says she's not thinking like a criminal, but like Lili's mommy, and she's scared of what they could do to her baby. Franco says he agrees they need to be careful. He says his objective as their friend is for them to be reunited with Lili as quickly as possible. However, as a representative of Power Milk, he can't run the risk ("correr el riesgo") of losing Lili, Barbie, AND the $3M.

Dead!Ciro reminds Lili that chess is a game that lets one manifest one's imagination, character, and willpower. One must plan, and have a touch of fantasy. He's interrupted by Artemio coming to look for Liliana. She suddenly looks at him and asks who he is. He says it doesn't matter right now. Lili says he looks like her daddy. She touches his face as she says this.

Franco walks out to his car, where Santi was waiting in the back seat form him. Santi said he needed to tell Franco that Fer wants to talk to him, but he didn't want Daddy or stepmommy to know. Santi directs him to drive and he'll tell him where they're going on the way.

Lovely is all ready to go see Tio Esteve. Complete with a totally pimpin' panama hat. Cami wants to know why she wants to marry him. She has him feel her boobs, uh, chest, that is, and asks if he can feel. He says his heart flies out of his chest every time he sees her. She tells him to leave his hand there and feel what happens when he kisses her. They suck face quite enthusiastically, complete with "hm, hm"-s from Camilo. I wouldn't call it moaning, exactly. Maybe more like grunting. Venus has to push him off her. She reminds him that she wants to make him happy, but he's going to be waaaaay happier on their wedding night. The first man and the last one.

Santi has brought Franco to the barn to meet Fer. The smolder at each other while Franco has an Ed recollection of he and Fer playing capture the flag. He remembers that she made him promise they'd love each other their whole lives. Back in the present, they're still smoldering at each other. Fer says this place has some of the best memories of her childhood, well, of her life. She says she wanted to talk about the Lili situation. Franco says that he tried his best to get Barbie to take him with her to the drop-off and she tried her best to get him not to go. Now he's convinced that she planned the whole kidnapping. Fer agrees, but she doesn't think that her dad will believe it, even if they had pictures of Barbie dragging Lili off by the hair. Franco says if everything goes as planned, they will not only get Lili back, but they'll also show Gonzo who his beloved Hyena really is.

Artemio shows Lili into his study. She goes over to the window. Artemio says this is going to be her house for a long time. He invites her to have a seat, which she does. She takes a look at an old picture in a frame on his desk. Artemio says the woman in the picture is the bridge between him and Lili. He says the woman in the picture is his mother, Ana Gregoria Bravo. Lili looks like this rings some kind of bell. Or maybe she's just confused and half-drugged, who can tell with her.

Fernanda says she trusts Franco and she's sure everything will go well. He takes his leave, shaking her hand. Pris, we presume, saw the handshake. Franco, as he is about to walk off, gets distracted by the sight of his old flag. Fer smiles, saying it's what's left of Eduardo's flag and what a coincidence, since Eduardo is the one who brought Franco into her life. Fer says Franco is like an angel and she doesn't know what she'd do without him. She gives him a big 'ol hug, which Priscila does witness. While chomping on some straw. I know pregnant ladies get cravings and all, but I would have figured Priscila for something a little more upscale.

Lovely reminds Caaaami that she knows all the ways, repeat, ALL the ways of making a man happy. However, there's one thing she won't tolerate--him marrying her out of obligation. They make quite the couple, visually speaking, with him in all black and her in all white. Lovely says he'd better consider what he's going to do carefully, because she'll be all his and she expects the same from him.

Fernanda tells Franco she feels peaceful around him, she feels like time stops. Then Erika calls. And Franco runs away. As Fer starts talking to Erika, Pris sneaks out of the barn. Erika says that from Fer's voice, it sounds like she had quite a night! "Did what needed to happen happen?" Fer says now isn't a good time. She needs to give Damian his medication. Erika says Franco asked her parents for her hand last night and she wants Fer to be matron of honor.

Priscila goes to report to Damian, but so far all she has is that Fer and Franco talked in the library, something about the community center. Then she saw Fer leave the house and she followed her. She met with Franco in the barn, they talked. "But what did you see!?" Pris finally admits that they hugged. She's confused, because Erika and Franco are going to get married and Erika and Fer are like sisters. Fer walks in and Pris lies that she heard Damian calling and came in to see how he was. She asks how the Lili situation is going and says she's sure everything will be ok. She leaves and Damian starts bugging her about where she's been. Fer says they've been invited to dinner with Erika and Franco so that Erika can officially ask her to be the maid of honor. To paraphrase from Spaceballs "Why do you always have to officially ask something after you ask it, just ask it!"

Gardenia comes into the living room to tell Camilo and Lovely that Esteve will be with them in a minute. She recongizes Venus, but is so disgusted that all she can say is "no lo puedo creer!" before walking off. Camilo is so dense he doesn't note anything strange about that reaction from Gardenia. Venus just smirks.

Fernanda gives Damian his pill and a glass of water while telling him that it will be just the four of them at dinner and that she told Erika that she would check with Damian before giving her official "yes". I'm having a hard time not getting my eyes stuck in the back of my head from rolling them so much. Damian asks why they're getting married. Fer says she supposes for the same reason all couples get married, "because they love each other." I would think by now she wouldn't believe that load of horse manure, but anyway. Damian is suspicious about how they fell in love so quickly. Fer says it must have been love at first sight. Damian says he's going to enjoy dinner, then, especially when they tell their great love story. He whines that he needs to get dressed and go to Mommy's house. She nags him about needing to rest, so he screams at her "I want to get dressed, are you going to help me or not?!"

One bit of confusion from last night that I wanted to clear up--the story about the dead cousin and the loan to Mommy was just the story that Damian was telling Fernanda. What Mommy was telling him was that his cousin saw the son of some lady who's asking for an investigation to be re-opened. Damian objected that the lady in question was dead, but Mommy said that it's her son making the request and that Damian's cousin said it wasn't going to look good for Damian.

Franco comes over to Mag and Jacinto's house. Margarita's out at the market. Franco holds up a piece of paper and tells Jacinto that all the details are on it.

Esteve comes into the living room, appropriately suited. Lovely says that she and Cami have something to tell him. Esteve tells Lovely to sit down, which she does, pulling Cami onto the couch with her. Esteve says he's listening. Cami has a hard time getting it out, but he eventually says that he and lovely are engaged. Oh! Wrong, dude! The way Esteve's been acting, you would think Camilo would realize that they're not engaged until he gets Esteve's permission. Esteve is pissed and asks Lovely if it's true. She says Camilo declared his feelings and she accepted. Esteve now wants to know what she plans to do with "Abdul Hassan." Who? Esteve says that Abdul Hassan is Lovely's betrothed ("comprometido"). Camilo looks pissed and Lovely looks radiant.

Fernanda struggles to get Damian's shoes on. She gets done and then passes him his crutches. She asks if it's so urgent for him to see his Mom and suggests that she come there and visit him. He says she needs him and the Elizaldes aren't the only people that stuff happens to. Only he's a lot more insulting and screechy when he says it. He gripes that his mommy needs him and reminds her that when their damn "cook" got sick and died it ruined their whole wedding, so she should be a little more understanding that his mommy needs help. That's the gist of it anyway. More screaming, more insults, "only your problems are important". Then, "are you taking me or do I have to call a cab?" I hope he falls down the stairs and lands with his neck at an unfortunate angle.

What Franco brought to Jacinto is a map of the dropoff point. It's going down in two hours. Franco says in case of any problems, go to Esteve. Franco says everything is going to go fine. Jacinto replies "me canso, ganso", which means, "of course," but how that has anything to do with tired geese is beyond me.

Esteve explains that when Lovely was born, her parents made an agreement with the Sultan of Brunei that when Lovely turned 23 she would marry his son, the aforementioned Abdul Hassan. Camilo thinks this is funny. Esteve says "that guy" owns half the petroleum in the Persian Gulf. "Seriously." And after her parents' tragic death, he had to manage her inheritance and send her to a school in London where all the future wives of all Middle Eastern royalty are educated. Lovely reminds Camilo that she mentioned it to him before. Esteve says that Lovely was the best student in her class and Abdul Hassan is waiting to marry her so she can become Princess of Brunei. Just for giggles, I looked it up, and the Sultan's eldest son, the crown prince Al-Muhtadee Billah is already married to one wife and has a son. He's also a pool and snooker enthusiast. Sadly, no one has taught Camilo how to take advantage of Wikipedia.

There is also, apparently, a clause in Lovely's parents' will that says that if Lovely falls in love with someone else before she marries Abdul Hassan, then Steve has the authority to break off the engagement so that she can be happy with the man she truly loves. And after the wedding, she gets her whole inheritance. Camilo is kind of giggling as he starts to ask Steve something, but Steve yells at him for not taking it seriously. Dude, you invoked the son of the Sultan of Brunei…how the hell are we supposed to take it seriously? He asks if Camilo thinks this is all a joke. He says that his niece's future depends on the decision they make. Steve calls Lovely over to him, takes her hand, and asks her if she truly loves Camilo. Lovely nods that she does, then says she loves him like she never imagined she would love anyone in her life. Steve asks if Camilo loves Lovely. Camilo's response, "uh, yeah." So, Steve asks, Are you prepared to marry her?

Fernanda drives Damian to his Mommy's house. Her phone starts ringing, but she doesn't answer it. Damian gives her crap about not answering her phone when she's already got the handsfree connected. She answers it to spite him. It's Erika, of course, who can't make it five minutes without calling to gossip about something. Yeah, I'm being unkind. If the whole thing between her and Franco were really legit, I wouldn't blame her for being so happy she has to gush to her BFF about it every five minutes. But she knows damn well that Franco is a man who comes with a lot of baggage and that he isn't even in love with her, so really, all this enthusiasm on her part is just too much. Fernanda tells Erika that Damian agreed and she just needs the date and time and they'll be at dinner. After she hangs up, Damian asks her if she thinks Erika and Franco are really in love. He thinks it's funny that Fer and Erika haven't gossiped over it already. He thinks they're getting married so that Franco can be close to whatever it is he's really after. Fer says she doesn't understand. Damian says that's because she hasn't wanted to pay attention. And right there is where my DVR cut off, sorry! So I have no idea how the conversation ended or what we have to look forward to tomorrow.

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good recap 5ft........too funny....loved the tres leches line i could not stop laughing....it was funny 2 me 2....
I want fer and ed/fr to get together soon.....i loved when she hugged him.....i can not believe how awful dam is....what a grouch.... fer needs to put him in the bathtub and add water....what is ed/fr going to do when lili is not given to him? do you think artie will give her up.....babs is going to have to have a good lie to give ed/fr....
 

sorry forgot to sign off.....BN in CA
 

Thanks for the recap, Kat, full of great snark and humor. With MEPS and Looneyvision, we have to set the VCR or DVR to record 5 minutes past the hour.

Can Fer’s outfits get any worse?!? Even though change of hairstyle signals change of etapa, Fernie’s wardrobe changed at the same time. I’ve given drapes to GoodWill that looked better than that skirt.

Thank you for clearing up the Dam/Ursula/cousin thing. I was totally lost on that, to the point if it was a plot on Dam’s part to kidnap Fer for the noche de
bodas.

Doesn’t DDenia know our Lovely Venus is the ex-mud-wrestler? She’s bound to let that slip out, sooner or later.
 

Kat, what a way to start the day - I love your humor. I swear that some days Nanda looks like a bag lady in some of the outfits they dig out for her. They sure aren't going to win any costume awards for this TN. I can hardly wait to find out what Dam's little problem is going to be. Do we see jail time?

rsk
 

Thanks for the recap Kat. And thanks Ferro for yesterdays. I didn't get to read all the comments so I'm not completely caught up.

Loved the story about the sultan. How crazy. Loafly looked relieved though in a way. If loafly had kids with Cad do you think they would look like Oompa Lumpas too? Can you imagine popping out a little orange mini-Cad? Ack!
 

My favorite line in your recap was "assholery, assholery, assholery, cat butt."


Ok, let's take a vote. How many of you vote for letting Dam fend for himself and maybe giving him just a little push down the stairs? Maybe his butt needs to sleep in the barn.
 

My cable was out all last night so a special thanks , 5ft, for that most excellently snarky recap....so many good lines. My fav was your incantation : ''A******, a******, a******, cat butt.'' Maybe those could be the magic words to a spell that would make The Orange One disappear. As for the son of the Sultan of Brunei...wow, there must be a pony there somewhere because Tio Esteve is really shoveling the manure now. [I knew someone who worked at big store [NM] who was a personal shopper for ONE of the sultan's wives. MONEYMONEYMONEY. It's too bad that Esteve did not continue the big lie to reel Caaamiiii in by telling him that Loafly graduated Magnum Cum Laude from The Royal Academy for Wives of Sultans. That could have turned the tide for CaaaMiiii. So, will Caamiiiii now be singing ''We're Going to the Chapel'' and ''Get Me to the Church on Time?'' Sorry I missed Fr'ed and Fer reminiscing about caturing the flag. Is DeadCiro going to be helping Lili now or just getting her into more trouble ? If the link between them is Ana Gregoria and she is Art's mother, are Art and Gonzo twins..both sons of Ana G. and the rich daddy kept Gonzo but sent Ana away with Art ? I'm confused. I also liked hearing that Fr'ed is messing with Barbwire's plans. Don't love watching the wheels in her head turn whenever her schemes are foiled ?
 

Muchas gracias, Kat, for the delightful recap and the very helpful vocabulary. I love your sense of humor! One of my favorites from this recap is the description of Gonzo: "It's like someone hits the reset button on this guy every morning." You nailed it!
 

Susanlynn, I think Art and Gonzo are half-brothers with the same father and a different mother. I assume that Art's mother was made pregnant out of wedlock by rich man for whom she worked (which is why she had to leave), and that Gonzo is also his son but by a different, lawfully wedded woman. At any rate, that's my guess of the day. :-)
 

Kat, you are on top of your game! Very, very funny & snarkarific...too many good lines to repeat but you had me at "she's being honest but it still sounds like she's nuts" & it kept getting better.

Ciro the Friendly Ghost is extremely unreliable as a guardian angel.

OMG, will someone please fire the wardrobe staff? Nanda looked like she had on a worn tutu from last year's Swan Lake & Pris' grey wool poncho was hideous. Gak!

Dam is despicable. Too bad Babs' aim was off a touch...she should have changed him from a rooster to a hen.

If Cam is NaranHo, should we be calling Esteve PelirroHo? The bad dye job is only worsened by his awful outfits. Gak!

Maggarita
 

Oops, Connie, I forgot to register my vote for letting Dam sleep in a leaky barn with a flea-infested dog on a straw bed riddled with lice in the pouring rain. His foot is resting against a pitch fork & when lightning strikes the barn, the pitch fork flies up in the air & lands in a very uncomfortable spot.

In his new career, he sings soprano for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Maggarita
:-0
 

Right on Maggarita! My ex-husband was a lot like him in his yelling and demanding and bullying. But I'm free like a bird and so could Nanda be if she'd just tell him to shut up and then divorce him. Of course I wouldn't have taken him back in the first place. Dam is a master of the guilt trips so you have to give him some credit for that.
 

Another terrific recap (they ALL are!)--thanks. Puppy Liliana is growing and getting better but still a pup. heh. destroyed so far: door mat, 2 pairs of shoes, one dog bed. Susanlynn, last week I was watching one of the daytime novelas (I believe it was Juro que te Amo), and one of your favorites, the actor who played Marcos in Alborada, was speaking English for several sentences (leaving a message on the telephone). I think his character is a bad guy.
Seeing Fr/Ed working out was not a big deal for me....oiled up huge muscles are not that great to me. I like FC, of course, but I think Cesar Evora is even more handsome.
Thanks for clearing up the Damian story with his mama--I could not understand all of that. Damian needs to fall/be pushed down the stairs of doom. I love Sendel as an actor.

LR
 

Kat, 2 sentences and I knew it was you. I love your saucy style. Piquant and funny.
Eddie and Nanda are in the stable, things starting to heat up, Nanda is melting, Eddie says,

"Oops, gotta go!"

Am I the only one shouting,

"Idiot!"?

Carlos
 

Kat: Thank you for the wonderful recap, great (and true) title, embedded vocabulary and especially for all of the research you did. I smiled throughout and particularly enjoyed "tres leches cake."

Dam has now worked himself into a frenzy. Clearly psychotic at this point, I can't see Fernanda tolerating his abusive behavior much longer.

As Artemio obviously has no plans to give Lili up, I can't forsee much happening other than Fr and Barbie returning with the money after Dr. O appears empty-handed.

Where's Vladi? I'm really getting worried...

Diana in MA
 

May I also add, when Esteve played the Abdul Hassan card, the look of relief, gratitude, and yes love on Venus' face was touching. I also thought that Esteve returned that loving look. Maybe at least one of our couples are close to the same page.

Yea, Esteve!

Carlos
 

I think the picture of Ana Gegoria looked a lot like Aurora. Did anyone else think so?

-Vivi in DC
 

Hi, Kat! Rolling your eyes so much they're stuck!! Me too! I don't know if I love MEPS in spite of its implausibility or because of it!

I'm assuming Artemio's real father is not named on his birth certificate. Do we know? If he had been named, wouldn't Fer have recognized the name of her grandfather (because we are assuming Arty's father is also Gonzo's)? For a minute I thought that Ana Gregorio might also be Soledad's mother, but then Fr/ed would have recognized her name as his grandmother. I'm assuming that these characters actually know the names of their grandparents, but maybe I'm assuming too much!!

Jane
 

Connie, I'm with you n "assholery, assholery, assholery, cat butt." That almost ended in a tragic diet coke/keyboard accident!
 

Jane- Ana Gregoria was only a litte older than Soledad and they worked at the hacienda at the same time. Martina's father (whose name I am forgetting now) told this to Eduardo. Both he and Soledad knew Ana G back in the day. So shi is not Soledad's mom. Also, Artemio's father was not named on the birth certificate, hence he had no father's last name. He just took him mom's last name.
 

Forgot to sign that last comment. Oops.
-Vivi in DC
 

I wondered about Lili and the picture too, like maybe there was some recognition there? They have all of those pictures in the house, and the camera showed it for so long, I wondered if we might also see the same picture in the front room of the Elzaldes.
 

I wish Lili had a confidant that wasn't a ghost so that we could get her impression of the picture! Maybe she should have a Lili #2 like Nanda has a Nanda #2 to share her thoughts/internal conflicts. Ciro's just not doing it for me. Plus, he seems to lead her down dangerous paths often.

She did meet Aurora. Maybe she saw some resemblance there? I could just be making up the whole resemblance thing too and it was just in my head. But they focused on that picture for a long, long time and gave us a really good look. Why, I wonder?
-Vivi in DC
 

Vivi - Great idea about Lili. It's so frustrating trying to figure out what's going through her mind. Her periods of lucidity seem to be growing increasingly infrequent, but how can we really tell?

Diana in MA
 

The last little bits you missed at the end of the show were this -
Damian said that Franco wanted to stay close to something he wanted, I figured he was going to say Fernanda, but he said Franco wants to stay close to Grupo Lactos so he could eventually take over ownership of the company.

Then, Esteve gets serious about whether to break the agreement with the Saudi Prince, asking Camilo first if that's what he wants, Camilo has no choice but to say yes, slightly more agreeable because of Loavely's inheritance. Then he goes to ask Loavely the same question, this to finally make it official, and we see Camilo's face as he thought bubbles "SAY NO!" and that was the end.

Tomorrow - the ransom drop goes down.
 

Thanks for the recap Kat. It was hilarious. I loved your comment about Gonzo (hitting the reset button every morning) b/c it was spot on. And thanks about the info and Dam/his mom/his cousin.

At least this time Ciro gave Lil some good advice. I'm hoping he'll redeem himself and help Lil escape.
 

Molly, it's amazing how far coffee Diet Coke will spew isn't it? Maybe we should post a disclaimer saying

"Eat and drink at your own risk while reading this recap. Readers are warned that hot coffee/tea and cold soda can cause damage to you as well as your computer. Caray Caray is not responsible for loss or damage caused by hot or cold liquids nor is it responsbile for unforunate choking accidents."
 

Awww, thanks everybody! Last night was one of those nights where I got to the end of the recap and then thought "seriously? That's all there is?" It's so much harder to poke fun at these people when they're not doing much of anything but having the same conversations over and over. It's nice to know my humor is appreciated :)
 

It would fit that Aurora looked like Ana, if Arti was her father. Ana would be her grandmother. This family shrub thing gives me a headache.

rsk
 

Connie, I am in total agreement! That should be right at the top of the page. So many times I sit down to read with my tea or diet coke and either have to choke it back or spew! Bless are recappers, they are freak'n hilarious!
 

Of course I meant "our"
 

Connie~~ha,,,I liked your warning suggestion. 5ft has a way with words. Her recaps have me talking to the computer screen and chuckling as I sit there alone in the office. LR~~~Jeff told me that mi telenovio Marcelo Cordova was in Juro de te amo, but I keep forgettin to watch . I would have enjoyed hearing him speak English.
 

Maybe Ana Gregoria is Barbie's mother, and Artemio is Barbie's brother.
 

Susanlynn, your telenovio spoke quite well in English, I think....I am always so surprised to hear actors in novelas speaking English. (and seeing the captions in Spanish).
the first night Loafly spent in Camilo's apartment, she had on a white robe--and I kept wondering just where the white strap came from--that red dress was a no-bra dress.
Doris--ITA about Nanda's clothes (Barbara's, too).

LR
 

I rarely post, and now 3 posts in one day! This is a test to see if Liliana's photo appears.

LR
 

Molly, then I guess you know how hard it is to get coffee/diet coke out of your keyboard! Ha.... I'm glad no one is here when I get here because I'm always laughing. Good way to start the day though.
 

Yup, its the first thing I do when I get logged in at work. One of my employees is here and if she hears me laughing she always asks what its about! The tried goose was funny this morning too.
 

I could read it at home but when I do I get sucked in. I'd rather get to work early, miss the traffic, drink my coffee and read the recap. It's hard to describe to people who aren't "in the know" what is so funny and why.
 

Too funny 5ft. I got a strange look from my cats when I burst out laughing at (Sunkist, perfect) not taking advantage of Wikipedia. Maybe someone can change it before he does.

It seems ghosts o guardian angels are a common theme in noveles.
FELS - Rosario
AEMP - Alejandra
MEPS - Ciro
I don't remember one in DA, Amor Real, Alborada o Pasión, but maybe I just forgot.

I'm taking bets on whether Dr. O gets his share of the dough.
Can't imagine what Babs story was going to be when she paid out $3mil & came back w/o Lili.

I thought Ana Gregoria Bravo looked like Adela Noriega. Maybe Ana worked for Gonzo's dad & that's where Lili remembers her.
The birth certificate said "padre unknown". Gonzo's dad got her pregnant & the poor disgraced servant had to leave town or more likely they ran her out of town to save the good name.

Tks 5 ft for filling me in on the Damian primo story. I haven't been
able to think of a reason that Damian would go to the slammer, so maybe that's it. He stole from his aunt. I think a new man is about to enter the picture, I hope he's handsome enough for Erika, Gardenia, or Florecita.

Silvestre is Martina's padre.

I finished Amarte es mi Pecado last night. Sergio Sendel was so sweet, kind, loyal. I much prefer him as baaad.
Does anyone know who played the part of Roberto, he worked as a journalist for Juan Carlos. He looked so familiar.
 

5Ft, 5Ft, you are the best!

Carlos, I, too thought "IDIOTA" in the stable scene. It's a good thing that nothing more hapened, tho, so that the reluctant spy (Pris) didn't get an eyeful to report about. Gawd, Fer's skirt was horrid! Silvia should demand to dress herself.

Today's twig of thought on the family shrub- Abora is definitely Arty's daughter by Babs. I think they used the Abora actress to pose for the pic that Lili was looking at.

They've set up a pretty suspenseful rescate scene, will we see it tonite, or Friday?
 

Thank you so much Kat. And you cleared up my total confusion about what Dam said to his mother and then reported to Fern. I thought yaa jail time. But Fern would just be visiting in a cell while he demanded conjugal quarters.
Last nights cross talk between Artie and Lili was so funny especially since it reminded me of Fernanda and Lili's cross talk about the existence of Edwardo, and that was so poinant an exchange. Sweet.
You're so right, eSteve is worried about the wrong thing. Its not how could Loafly love dull him but how would Mother love Venus. Humm.mmmm.
I loved when Venus mocked herself purring Cad's name Caaahmeee.So funnie!
How come Vlad is not calling to see about his best bud? Then Fern could take him over there next. I would do lots of things to keep him out of the house.
Another social occassion coming up?! Ooo-key-doo-kee, cause Damian's manners certainly fit the family customs. Partie.eee.ee
Hay, if it can't be love at least have fun and I'm giving up on love between Fer and EdFr.
 

DD, it better be tonight. I don't know if I can stand the suspense until Friday!
 

I think what Anibal is suggesting to Cad is that he can get a divorce by claiming Loafly deceived him about being a virgin. Its absurd. But that's Anibal.
 

You guys are hysterical, Damian demanding conjugal quarters.

Fernanda saying, sorry gotta go, visiting hours are over, cell check.

Speaking of la cárcel, wonder how Lucio is doing. He'll probably be back to testify against Babs.
 

Variopinta~~~In Amor Real, the sick girl whom Adolfo Solis married came back to him as an angel when he was shot at the end.
 

Susanlynn, It's good to know he gets shot. I don't like him and I just started the TN. Manuel needs to stop smacking around women though.
 

GREAT recap, 5 ft!!!

One very subtle but to me hilarious line was spoken by Obregon over the phone with Barbwire.

He asked her what would happen if he got the money but didn't produce Liliana. She pretty much told him to shut it. He then said (basically) "But then I'll be a big time criminal and they'll search for me everywhere in the world."

But the way he said it was classic! He said they'd search for him como Adelita, por tierra y por mar, thus quoting a famous song of the revolution that's about a female camp follower (and some of these gals fought right alongside the guys) named Adelita. I love this song. The chorus goes:

Que si Adelita se fuera con otro
la seguiría por tierra y por mar
si por mar en un buque de guerra
si por tierra en un tren militar.


This is funny on another level, Obregon comparing himself to a famous soldadera since he's a tad effeminate.
 

Novelera, thanks for that information. I wondered who Adelita was. Another good reason to come here. You guys know so much.

Carlos
 

I would just love to see Obregón in sth else. I've googled him but his name is Ricardo Silva & can only find baseball players, not actors.
 

Right SusanLynn, I forgot about that one. At least she didn't hang out & give advice.
 

Connie~~~Whoops..I forgot that you just started watching Amor Real. Sorry to give a spoiler. I love Amor Real, but FC plays a galan who is not always my idea of a hero. His hate for Matilde is a strong as his love for her. By the way, they cut out many love scenes. Manuel and Matilde were like bunnies at one point in the novela. It was a real ''I hate you...no, I love you...no, hate...'' storyline. Together...apart..together...apart...etc. Novelera~~~Thanks for the explanation of Adelita. Carlos, like you, I appreciate all the information I get here at CarayCaray.
 

Variopinta,

If you like Sendel as a villain, I recommend an excellent novela made years ago: "Ramona." He plays a gringo sheriff in the days when the gringos, the Mexicans and the Indians were vying for the gold enriched land of California. One of the best telenovelas ever, in my humble opinion. The character he plays in that story makes Damian look like a den mother.

El Pelón
 

Dr. O was the photographer in Destilando that took those photos of Gaviota for the Ho House.
 

El Pelón, Ramona was my first and alltime favorite TN. Kate del Castillo, Eduardo Palomo, Sergio Sendel. It just doesn't get any better than that. Sergio Sendel redefines evil in Ramona.

Carlos
 

Carlos,

Good to know that there are other aficionados of Ramona out there. Eduardo Palomo (que en paz descance) was superb. It helps that it was based on an actual novel written by Helen Hunt Jackson, who hailed from Colorado, up where I am. Would that they would use actual novels as a basis more often and discard the cookie cutter scripts.

ElPelón
 

More about Adelita. I meant to say that every Mexican would immediately understand Obregon's quip about Adelita.

I also found this site about soldaderas, which is interesting. Too bad about the distracting background graphic.

http://www.ic.arizona.edu/ic/mcbride/ws200/mex-jand.htm
 

Thanks Vivi in DC for filling me in on the details regarding Ana and Soledad. And the birth certificate. I don't remember learning that the father's name was left off, but it does explain Arty's last name. Now I'm baffled by the blood relations, but I love everyone's guesses!

Speaking of Sergio Sendel, I think he was fairly nasty in Destilando Amor, and met with a shocking fate in the end since he didn't have a single ally left by then!

Jane
 

What do I do now? Channel 41 in NYC has started rerunning Destilando Amor, a least a dozen times better than MEPS (which is pretty engaging). I can't spend two hours a day watching telenovelas, however, I missed the first 3 months of DA. Any suggestions?
 

The actor who plays Obregón is in Destilando Amor as the heavy who sells Gaviota into prostitution.
 

Tks for the Ramona tip, I've never heard of it. DA was my 1st novela. I don't remember Dr O though.

I will ck out Adelita. I like history stuff. The story about Malinche, the mistress of Hernán Cortés is very interesting.

I don't know what I was thinking when I said Babs would go to jail. Nothing so mundane happens to the villainess. Gabriela in FELS & Isaura in AEMP.
Drowning in a vat of leche is too quick, perhaps buried alive in the bad powdered milk would be ok.
 

Anon 5:54...I record the shows to watch later, and thus with FFing through the adverts and the tedious scenes (Abora crying yet again, por ejemplo) I can watch two 1-hour shows in about an hour and 10 minutes. Don't tell the sponsors.
 

I'm with Julia - the answer is DVR.
 

I really don't mind the commercials, you can learn some español there also. But I can't handle more than 1 novela.
 

Connie- yes! of course!, Obregon was the photog from DA! I knew that I knew him from somewhere.

101* here today (Seattle). All time highest recorded temp. Gin is in the freezer, tonic is in the frig...
 

Kat, your recap was funny beyond compare. I laughed at so many great lines, like Gonzo's reset button, and almost lost it with the ''A******, a******, a******, cat butt" one. Thanks for using your talent for our benefit.

Novelera, thanks for the Adelita song info. I understood the searching over land and sea, but would have never known the song reference without your comment. It's true that the Dr. O's line is much funnier knowing the background info.

I was SO HAPPY to see Barb in an outfit that was not the fluffy white ruffle-fest. I see in the advances that she and Fr/Ed are team leatha! for the ransom pickup.
And, I was MOST UNHAPPY to see that floppy, drab, rag that some idiot costume person thought could pass for a skirt on Fer. It looked like it was wiped with black paint from Santi's art supplies. Maybe she's trying to cool Damian's jets by looking as ugly as possible.

I'm rooting for Venus and Esteve to have a future together.
La Paloma
 

I thought Priscalla's brother looked like the guy in Madrasta who was the attorney to the gal who started out in jail moaning about "veinte anos" He was pretty nice in the novela. Just a small part. bk
 

Sergio Sendel played a vile villain in Heridas de Amor. He was very abusive to several women in that one , and he killed at least one woman. In the end, he was hit by a pie truck and his cold, cold heart went to a good person. Hub is not a fan of the novelas, but if Dam is on the screeen when he passes through the livingroom, he smiles and says ''Oh...the lounge lizard.''
 

Poop, I've been so absorbed by this reap and comments that I've missed huge chunks of tonight's episode which is now ending. Feh.

5:54, tape Destilando so you can FF through the endless rehashing scenes. You'll get to see all the good stuff and skip all the boring stuff. Personally, I wish I had saved every "Francisco de la Vega" scene.

Maggarita, I like your plan for Dam.

I don't think it's true that Dam has no arrestable offenses. He intentionally sabotaged the company's pasteurizing (or refrigeration, I don't remember) equipment, which ruined a lot of milk and the machine itself. (I don't know whether they had to let orders go unfilled or if they had to pay extra to get other milk to fill them.) So far, only Babs knows that Dam did that. I guess the rest of the family thinks it was just equipment failure.
 

Someone mentioned that Lili had met Aurora. I have been racking my brains trying to remember this, but I can't come up with anything.

Lili didn't come home for the wedding; Fernanda wanted her to, but the doctor drugged Lili when they went to visit her and she became very agitated.

Lili came home anyway a few days later and even reacted to FrEd's photo in the wedding album (my friends didn't get their wedding photos that quickly!), but I am pretty sure that Aurora and Santi were off looking for Aurora's birth certificate at that time. They were gone for a couple of days.

Was there any other time their paths might have crossed?
 

I agree Julie, I meant to ask before.
When Lili attacked Babs at the dining table, Santiago & Aurora hadn't arrived. She was back in casa loca before the wedding.
 

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