Saturday, August 08, 2009
MEPS, 8/7/09: Those Sleeping Dogs Refuse To Lie Still
Capítulo #123
As we return to Villa Madera, it’s been another long night. Venus returns home late to Las Animas and lies to Fr/Eduardo that things are going swimmingly with Camilo, so well that she thinks she’s falling in love with him despite the warnings he and Estev gave her; Barbara learns from a frantic Santiago that Dominga is dead and that in reality, Aurora never knew her parents.
Speaking of Ah-wah-wah, she’s at it again. Standing by her overly moonlit bedroom window at the convent, she sobs gobs about the mess she’s made of her life by being so foolish and gullible. She tells herself she’ll never in her life manage to make up for the terrible sin she committed with Santiago’s brother, Camilo. She prays that the Lord will give Santi a woman he truly deserves because once he finds out what Cad did to her, she is sure he will think she is trash. She can only hope that Santiago just forgets about her (much the same way many of us wish we could forget about her).
Santi and Babs are still discussing Rory’s possible whereabouts and all the places he went looking for dear Ah-wah-wah in Pueblo Purificación. He tells Babs he lied about his and Ah-wah-wah’s meeting in Guadalajara and that she’d never actually stepped foot out of Purificación till the day he met her. He mentions that he even went to the convent school she attended but that the mother superior hadn’t been any help; and (of course) he doesn’t think the nun would lie to him about it. Babs conveniently gets the name of the convent from him. Then, suddenly, Santi has a flashback to the man who came to Dominga’s house looking for Aurora right after the fire. He puts it all together and realizes that the man, who coincidentally looks like his father he tells Babs, was the same man who sent the money grams for Rory. He is sure that this man followed them back to Villa Madera and was the same one who must have taken her. Once Babs hears this, it’s her turn to begin to put two and two together about Artemio Bravo.
A bit later in Santiago’s studio, Fernanda argues with Santi because he told Barbara the truth about Aurora. She scolds him because they have plenty of reason not to trust Barb’s motives and for all they know, she says, Barbara could have been the one who hired the man to make her disappear. Santi, grasping at straws, naively argues that Babs has changed and feels guilty for supposedly not stopping the man when she had a chance. In fact, he says, Barbara herself left to hire a private detective to look for the man. He then begs Fer not to mention it to their father since he’s already under enough stress because of Lili’s being kidnapped. (Like she would?) Fer says she doesn’t mean to be the bearer of bad news [ave de mal agüero = literally, bird of bad omen] but she has no reason to believe in Barb’s supposed good will. Santi says he’s reached his limits and is clinging to the slim hope, absurd as it may be, that she shows up soon.
Meanwhile, Barb pays a visit to Artemio Bravo to tell him they’ll need some proof that Lili is still alive and well or else Gonzo will get the police involved in the search for her. She suggests they give Gonzo what he wants. Bravo agrees because he believes that it will cause her husband even greater anxiety. He mentions in passing that Lili keeps telling him that Eduardo Juarez will come to rescue her. The Barbot’s antennae go up again.
In another part of the manse, Lili and Ciro the Friendly Phantasm continue reading Ana Gregoria’s diary. Ciro stops to ask Lili if she realizes that her chances of getting out of there continue to be less and less. Lili doesn’t seem to mind and thinks Bravo may not be such a bad man. Ciro answers in cryptic chess terms that The Black King is a solitary person who bases his game on hate and vengeance; but The White Queen’s strength is her love. She asks if The Black King will win the match. Ciro (who by now is giving us all Yoda flashbacks out the wazoo) answers that the game’s barely begun and says that the pieces are all in their places on the board. Lili must be patient and play intelligently.
Ciro reads further into Ana Gregoria’s juicy diary:
“The mistress goes to church seven days a week and prays to Saint Ramon of the Unborn because she wants to have lots of children. The cook, Cristeta, though, says that if the Señora wants to make sure she gets pregnant again, it isn’t praying that she should be doing. Hmph! What do I know? It frightens me plenty because then the patrón eats breakfast alone and sends for me to attend to him.”
We do a little time-travel and see Don Jeronimo eating by himself in the dining room. He asks the shy Ana why she doesn’t go to mass with his wife. Ana says that the Señora, Alta Gracia, doesn’t like her to go with her. DJ tells Ana not to be afraid and then hands her an ink pen (for the diary he gave her we assume). He says it was a gift from his father and now he wants her to have it. He asks where some sort of decorations his wife puts out at Christmas are kept and she says they’re in the store room. Cristeta comes into the dining room at that point with more coffee and gets suspicious when she sees Ana standing there talking to Don Jeronimo. DJ tells Cristeta no, if he needs her he’ll have Ana come get her. Cristeta shoots daggers out of her eyes at Ana and leaves the room.
Jeronimo makes sure Cristeta is out of earshot before speaking again. He tells Ana he’ll meet her in that store room the next morning while his wife is at mass. (Well, now we know where Cad gets it from.) Ana says she can’t close her eyes all that night because all she can do is think about this meeting the next day. Her heart is in her throat [literally, in her mouth / el corazón en la boca]. --Ciro adds as an aside that it seems that Lili’s grandparents only had one child, her daddy, Gonzo.
They continue reading:
Ana says she’s relieved the next morning so see that when she gets to the store room there’s no one there. She’s hoping Don Jeronimo either forgot or overslept [pegársele los sabanas = getting stuck to the sheets]. Ana climbs up the ladder and starts checking inside the baskets conveniently on the top shelf. Don Jeronimo, noticing her bare shins and ankles, can barely control his desire. He speaks to her from behind and startles her. She turns around and her bare knee is sticking out from her jumbled skirts. He stares longingly at that knee and gently helps her down the ladder. He pulls her close to him and the seduction begins. Ana doesn’t fight it….. Let’s just say she enjoys it as much as he does and when it’s over she says she feels safe in his arms. “Everything was fine until the noise. There was Cristeta. I don’t know how long she was there watching.—“
Just then Bitch Barbie appears menacingly at Lili’s door and enters the room. (Crap! Story-time is over.) “I just found out something I want you to explain.” BB pulls Lili by the hair and starts screaming at her. “You miserable, crazy girl! Just where did you get that Eduardo Juarez was going to come rescue you! Where??!!”
Back at the hacienda, Fernanda runs into her father coming downstairs. He asks where Babs is and then says he remembers Babs told him she was going to church for mass. Fer thinks to herself that Barb is such a freekin’ liar, and that no way Barbara went to mass let alone left to interview a detective like she made Santiago think she was. Gonzo asks after Damian and then nearly passes out. (Not quite the “big one”, ‘Lizbeth, but close.) Fer fusses over her daddy and wants him to lie down. Gonzo admits he’s just so upset at what’s happened with Lili and his inability to do anything about it but he refuses to admit to his illness. “Just a little rise in my blood pressure is all.” She tries to calm him down by saying that soon Franco will come to some arrangement with Obregon and Lili will come back home to them.
BB tells Lili that Eduardo is dead. Artemio walks in on them and says obviously Lili doesn’t believe it because she’s waiting for Eduardo to come for her. He suggests that she should not underestimate the girl, but Barb says she’s delusional. ”Look at her. Does she look sane to you?” Bravo asks her again why she thinks Eduardo Juarez is coming to rescue her. Ciro shakes his head not to let on. Lili stares off into space and says nothing.
At Las Animas, Ed warns Estev that it’s time to bring the farce with Cadmilo Elizalde to an end. Estev wonders why. Ed says he’s worried about the turn things are taking. He asks if Estev has spoken with Venus about it lately. Estev says he did the night before and she was perfectly fine with everything and he wants to play it out to the very end. Ed tells him that he better think twice because Venus admitted to him last night that she was falling in love with Camilo. Estev, who has just been hit on the head with anvil numero uno, is muy impactado.
At the same time, Venus stands in front of her mirror and cries, knowing she is too changed to return to the old life and seemingly not pure enough to begin a new one with her true love, Mr. Estev. (Redemption, methinks, is in the air, so near and yet so far, far away.) As violins pull at the heart strings, Viewerville sheds a tear for our dear working girl.
Back in the study, Estev tells Ed that Venus has to have been joking. He says he can’t believe she’d actually fall for trash like Cad Elizalde. Ed seems to believe her and says there’s no reason she couldn’t. So, he warns, it’s time they put the brakes on this game of theirs. Estev bangs the walls with his fist. “It’s incredible! The guy is such a jerk!” Ed answers that they obviously failed in their calculations. Estev spent so much turning Cad into the “perfect boy friend” that now Venus wants to forget her past and to continue being what she has become: Lovely. Estev’s voice cracks a bit. “Did she really tell you she was happy with this parasite?” “—Unfortunately, yes she did… and that she was falling in love.” Ed claps his BFF on the shoulder in a show of sympathy. Just then Gardenia brings them coffee. She hands Ed his with a special come hither look in her eyes which Ed awkwardly ignores.
Once Denia’s gone, Ed explains his problem with Denia. “Estev, I don’t know what to do! She told me last night that if I was going to marry Errika without loving her, I might as well marry her instead.” Estev wants to know what he told her, but Ed says he couldn’t answer her because the conversation got cut short. Ed says he doesn’t know what to do or say to Denia because he truly does not want to hurt her feelings. Estev hasn’t got an answer for him either, but says Ed definitely needs to tell her something and fast, because there’s no telling what a woman will do when she feels rejected. (Spurned women-alert! Spurned women alert! Estev call your office!)
Back at Bravo’s, BB is demanding an answer from Lili. Ciro asks her if she realizes how it drives Barbara mad when she talks about Eduardo Juarez. Bravo pulls Barbara off Lili at that point and tells BB that he now thinks Eduardo Juarez is still alive. Barb says they’ll have to discuss that later on and pulls out a tape recorder to record something from Lili that will pacify Gonzo.
Across town at Damian’s sleezy cousin, Jacobo’s, law office, Rubiel Villasana has angrily accused Jacobo of bribing the court’s secretary to drop his case against Damian. Jacobo asks him what proof he has. Rubiel says he has his sources and warns Jacobo that Dam’s crime will not go unpunished. “That swindler, Damian Gallardo, is to blame for my mother’s death!” Jacobo insists “his client” was free for lack of evidence and says in any event, the fault lies with the company’s legal representative. He tries then to talk Villasana out of wasting his time and money in a case that won’t go anywhere. Jacobo then swears –or bluffs, cuz who knows-- that he has numerous witnesses that have sworn Damian always comported himself efficiently and honestly in his position as financial auditor for the company. Villasana loses his patience and storms out of the office, screaming at Jacobo to tell Damian Gallardo that his crime will not go unpunished.
Speaking of criminal minds, upstairs in Damian’s bedroom Pris mentions to Dam that Fer hasn’t said anything to her about the business with Vladimir yet. Dam says she hasn’t touched on it with him either. Pris gets after Dam for not pushing it and fixing the problem already. He gets upset and snaps at her. It’s not like he can go fishing for gossip openly! --And, if Pris thinks it’s so easy, why doesn’t she go take care of it herself then instead of forcing him to get involved? She whines she’s just very worried and he tells her that doesn’t get anything resolved. Dam changes the subject to the little task he gave her: getting dirt on Nanda and Fr/Ed. Pris says she searched the entire bedroom last night but couldn’t find anything. She was trying to think of a way to get close to Fer that wouldn’t arouse suspicion, but couldn’t. Dam suggests she offer to help her with the local cheese-producers’ fair. Pris should be able to keep track of how many times Nanda and Franco are together and that way eventually get the proof he needs that she is an adulteress. Pris agrees that it just might work.
Over at Las Animas again, Ed takes a call from Fer asking him to meet her at her office. Eddie starts to tell Estev, just as Denia decides to make her presence known, that Fer sounded pretty worried about something. Denia makes some complaint that if he’s going to be gone and will be a while she won’t know if she’s got to set an extra place at the table or not. She gets frustrated and stomps off again. Ed explains to Estev that it’s a big ruse because Denia wants an answer to her proposal from the night before. (Ok. Ok. I know the guys in Viewerville all wish they could be this lucky, but some of us see Denia as an unnecessary and wacky, tacky nuisance about now.) Estev laughs at Ed’s predicament and advises him to tell her already. (Will somebody tell poor, dear, befuddled Eddie that sometimes you just got to be cruel to be kind so we can get past this pain-in-the-patoot female already?) Ed rolls his gorgeous eyes.
Back at Bravo’s, Artemio is discussing the threat Eduardo Juarez presents to them. The Barbot insists the operative word is “was” since the man is dead. Bravo’s not that sure and says he wants to be absolutely certain. She again insists she confirmed it herself, personally. Even if he weren’t, so what? Bravo suggests that this Eduardo Juarez could be plotting something as dire and complex as their own plan. The Barbot takes a moment to reflect and then thinks to herself with relish, “--something as evil and cruel as I’m planning for you, you despicable wretch!!”
Venus starts to walk outside to wait for Cad to pick her up. Estev stops her in the hallway and asks if he can take a walk or something with her. She says no, she’s got things to do. He notices how down she seems. He asks what’s going on with her, if there is a problem or something and asks if she wants to talk to him about it? She says no, nothing, and she can’t stick around because Cad’s about to arrive. He says just tell Cad she’s busy talking to her er…uncle… for the moment and let him wait. Venus says a little snidely, “That’s right, …“Uncle Estev,” but she’s now Lovely, she says, Camilo’s girlfriend, and that’s how she’s got to behave, so no, she will not make Cad wait. Estev remains hopelessly oblivious to the obvious as Venus walks away to wait on the patio for Cad.
Barb gets off the elevator at Grupo Lactos at the same time Rubiel Villasana rushes out of it. She overhears him trying to find Fernanda. Rubiel says he doesn’t know Fer, but he urgently needs to speak with her. While he’s stuck at the reception desk with Flor, Barb coolly walks into her office and calls Flo to tell her to send him to see her instead. Fr/Ed arrives and walks to the reception desk to greet Flor. Meanwhile, Rubiel enters Barb’s office where she confronts him by name and asks why he’s come. Upset, he races out of her office and runs past Fr/Ed just as Fr/Ed tells Flor he’s there to see Fernanda. Rubiel hears her name and yells over at Fr/Ed that if he sees Fernanda to tell her that her husband is a swindler and that Rubiel Villasana told them so! Eduardo is well-wadda-ya-know-impactado. Barb walks into the reception area just then and keeps Fr/Ed from catching up to Rubiel for an explanation. She coolly ignores the entire situation and takes Fr/Ed into her office. Flor takes it all in and frowns.
In her office with Fr/Ed, Barb tries to brush it all off as a lot of rubbish and just some rude guy’s behavior. Fr/Ed disagrees and says his yelling in the lobby about Fernanda Elizalde’s husband being a swindler sounds like something sensitive and anything but simply some rude behavior. Barb nonchalantly explains that the man’s family was upset and resentful that a bit of business between Damian and them a few years back, which involved their lawyers, was not settled to their liking. “You understand, don’t you? When you lose, you lose.” He says yes. She asks why he’s there. Fr/Eddie explains Fer’s message and says that he thinks Fer probably wants to discuss his plans to get Lili back. Barb hands Fr/Ed the tape recorder and tells him to give it to Fernanda. She tells him that’s the irrefutable proof the family was wanting, what the two of them supposedly were waiting for from Obregon. “That should pacify the Elizalde’s for now.”
Fr/Ed is suspicious and asks how Barbara got it. BB simply says that it was the proof that Obregon sent. Eddie frowns cuz he knows there’s more behind this than she’s telling him, especially with Obregon out of the picture. He passes and asks her what’s on the tape. BB lies and says it’s something that frankly she wasn’t expecting. He asks why she’s giving the tape to him to hand over instead of her giving it to the family instead. BB says since they’re partners in this it’s all the same and it doesn’t matter who tells the Elizalde’s what’s on that tape.
In the meantime, Fernanda walks into the reception area looking for Fr/Ed. Flor shows her the article in the paper announcing the start of the cheese-producers’ project. Fer asks if Franco’s come yet and Flor says that he’s in with Barbara. This raises the hackles on Fer’s neck. Fr/Ed walks back into the reception area just then and says hey. She shoots a nasty look his way and tells him to follow her back to her office. Flor thinks to herself what a great couple Fer and Fr/Ed would have made, and that Franco Santoro is so different from the jerk she’s married to now.
Back at the hacienda at the little family crypt, a grieving Gonzo prays for help from Monserrat in protecting Lili (like a lot of good that will do considering Moansie’s feelings towards her). He needs her to keep him from giving in to his feelings of desperation because he cannot allow himself to fall apart in front of his children. (If I were Moansie I’d be shooting spikes of lightening on the guy’s backside instead.)
In her office, Fernanda tells Fr/Ed that she’s worried her father is becoming ill because of everything that’s happened with Lili and she thinks it’s time to tell him the truth. Fr/Ed looks trapped. He avoids answering and tells her there’s news from Lili; that Barbara found him in the reception area to explain. He pulls out the tape recorder from his jacket pocket. Fer looks on expectantly.
Across the hallway in her office, Bitch Barbie warns Flor to stay deaf, dumb and blind regarding the man that came looking for Fer. As far as Flor is concerned she’s to forget that the man ever came looking for her. If Flor says one word about the incident, BOW will throw her out of the place and this time not even Fernanda will be able to save her. Flor leaves and BB thinks what rotten luck that just now Villasana’s son decides to resurface.
Back in Fernanda’s office Fer and Fr/Ed listen to the tape BB forced Lili to make. On it Lili sounds angry and warns them away from her: “I don’t want to return to the hacienda. I don’t want to see anybody again, either. I have no family! Don’t look for me. Leave me in peace!!”
Fr/Ed is torn as he watches the tears roll down Fernanda’s face.
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Let me be the first to compliment your great (as usual recap). I love the way you do snark. "Ciro answers in cryptic chess terms" was just one of the things that touched my funny bone. I'm off to watch the episode now that I have an excellent idea of what it's about. Thanks
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: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 3:46:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 3:46:00 PM EDT
Great recap! You really filled in some blanks for me.
Speaking of blanks, I accidentally deleted some previous episodes that I missed.
Does anyone know where I can buy complete, unabridged DVDs of telenovelas like MEPS that have close-captioning in Español?
I emailed this site: http://www.telenovelas-completas.com/ Lots of options, even MEPS, but NO closed-captioning.
CC is a must b/c I have trouble with certain actors who talk rapidly and run all the words together. (like Gardenia! So many modismos and 100 mph Spanish! I have NO clue what she says without CC!)
Speaking of blanks, I accidentally deleted some previous episodes that I missed.
Does anyone know where I can buy complete, unabridged DVDs of telenovelas like MEPS that have close-captioning in Español?
I emailed this site: http://www.telenovelas-completas.com/ Lots of options, even MEPS, but NO closed-captioning.
CC is a must b/c I have trouble with certain actors who talk rapidly and run all the words together. (like Gardenia! So many modismos and 100 mph Spanish! I have NO clue what she says without CC!)
Thanks, Alice! Glad to give you a chuckle or two. ; > )
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Excellent, as usual, Jardinera!
I think we may have had a small clue about how Barbwire and Damnian hooked up in the first place. It seemed to me that Rubiel Villasana recognized her as soon as he entered that office. I was expecting Barbie to pretend to be Fernanda to get the story out of him, but he ran like a rabbit. So maybe she was part of the desfalco (embezzlement). But she's been Mrs. Elizalde for 15 years, so I can't quite make this work perfectly.
As so often happens in TNs, a perfect opportunity for Fer to find out who she's really married to is thwarted by the villain in the nick of time. But I don't think either Fr/Ed or Flor are going to forget that name.
I think we may have had a small clue about how Barbwire and Damnian hooked up in the first place. It seemed to me that Rubiel Villasana recognized her as soon as he entered that office. I was expecting Barbie to pretend to be Fernanda to get the story out of him, but he ran like a rabbit. So maybe she was part of the desfalco (embezzlement). But she's been Mrs. Elizalde for 15 years, so I can't quite make this work perfectly.
As so often happens in TNs, a perfect opportunity for Fer to find out who she's really married to is thwarted by the villain in the nick of time. But I don't think either Fr/Ed or Flor are going to forget that name.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, Gracias! I haven't finished yet (and I know it's going to be entertaining) but I just wanted to make two observations: how understandably creeped out Ana Gregoria looks w/Anyballs?/Jeronimo making the moves on her: total yuckfest! And, I had earlier called for Lili's death to save her and us from her suffering: I just feel a vague pity for her now. What an oppresively BORING life: 15 years in the nut house, now the promise of imprisonment by her psychotic/vengeful uncle with a few smackdowns by murderous step mom topped off by having a diary full of tales of woe (and tail) read to you by an old man's glowing ghost. Damn! It's a wonder she hasn't tried to off herself. What the hell does she have to look forward to each day!? Okay. Back to the cap.
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
Thank you for the snarkalicious recap, Jardinera.
“Spurned women alert!” LOL! I particularly liked Moansie’s "...shooting spikes of lightening on the guy’s backside". That elicited a guffaw from me. ;o)
Thanks for explaining why Venus looked so sad and depressed. I've only had time to read recaps this week, so I missed the nuances one sees on screen and was really confused by that scene. Professor Higgins needs to wake up and save Liza D.!
Khalilah - I thought AGB looked totally creeped out by Jeronimo's advances, too.
I thought Barb believed that Dominga & Aurora both died in the fire at Big Cups. Maybe it was Artemio who thought that...and I'm thinking entirely too much... off to find my beanie hat.
How much do you want to bet that Cristeta is Gardenia’s mother or grandmother, after that breakfast scene with the coffee?!
Is it my imagination, or are Barbie’s outfits getting sluttier and sluttier looking?
“Spurned women alert!” LOL! I particularly liked Moansie’s "...shooting spikes of lightening on the guy’s backside". That elicited a guffaw from me. ;o)
Thanks for explaining why Venus looked so sad and depressed. I've only had time to read recaps this week, so I missed the nuances one sees on screen and was really confused by that scene. Professor Higgins needs to wake up and save Liza D.!
Khalilah - I thought AGB looked totally creeped out by Jeronimo's advances, too.
I thought Barb believed that Dominga & Aurora both died in the fire at Big Cups. Maybe it was Artemio who thought that...and I'm thinking entirely too much... off to find my beanie hat.
How much do you want to bet that Cristeta is Gardenia’s mother or grandmother, after that breakfast scene with the coffee?!
Is it my imagination, or are Barbie’s outfits getting sluttier and sluttier looking?
Yep, Jardinera, entertaining and, as others have noted, you really fill out lost details. Not much more to say, gonna wait for the equally enteraining comments to roll in. Ok. One comment: I could slap the crap outta that stoopid Steve. Venus is a strong woman but she really has no options having lost her livlihood in that fire. This farce was always dumb and now Venus is about to be victimized because of some dumb game Esteve wants to play. Cad could easily kill Venus when he finds out she's (in his view) a common whore who mocked him. Having tied the whole charade into Powhere Meelk's and Fr/Ed's credibility is also dumb and dangerous. And how is Esteve now going to turn around and say, "Ok, Lovely is not a rich Heiress and I'm not her Uncle: she's a 'Ho and I'm in love with her. . . ."? Jesus Lopez, what a mess!
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 5:28:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 5:28:00 PM EDT
Why is Pris searching Fernanda's room, Damian is there all day, he can't even do that?
Lili does have some slash marks on her wrists, she broke a candle holder in the chapel & went at it, can't remember what saved her.
How can Fr/Ed be so clueless, both Venus & Esteve are in obvious pain for loving each other.
Aren't there any knives handy for poor Lili, She has to still suffer Babs cruelty?
Lili does have some slash marks on her wrists, she broke a candle holder in the chapel & went at it, can't remember what saved her.
How can Fr/Ed be so clueless, both Venus & Esteve are in obvious pain for loving each other.
Aren't there any knives handy for poor Lili, She has to still suffer Babs cruelty?
Hahhahhahaaa, Doris! Yeah, Bab's is prolly feeling a little slutty: Damian hasn't hauled her ashes in a while. Y, creo que si, DD's granma! That's pretty good: Dagger looks, flouncing away in (I think) a jealous huff when she saw Jeronimo w/Ana: Maybe she had been Ronnie's favorite bed (or sack of flour) wench.
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 5:37:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 5:37:00 PM EDT
That's right, Variopinta, I remember now. What a saaaaad life! I hope the Novela gods are really gonna do right by Lili, jeeez!
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
Excellent recap, Jardinera! Thanks so much...I was wondering why Rubiel recognized Barbie.
Doris--Cristeta as Denia and Margarita's abuela....of course! I'd been wondering why this novela does not have the usual assortment of tias, abuelas, and primas in the cast. The Elizalde family is not extended at all, and we have just the Denia, Margarita,and Flor familial relationships.
Lightning spikes in his butt......LOL
LR
Doris--Cristeta as Denia and Margarita's abuela....of course! I'd been wondering why this novela does not have the usual assortment of tias, abuelas, and primas in the cast. The Elizalde family is not extended at all, and we have just the Denia, Margarita,and Flor familial relationships.
Lightning spikes in his butt......LOL
LR
Maybe Babs was friends, or frenemies, with the woman that Damian conned (at some social club or something). Maybe that's how she met Damian and that woman's charming son.
Or maybe Damian tried to con Babs, and THAT'S how they met!
Or maybe Damian tried to con Babs, and THAT'S how they met!
Considering all the time Pris has been spending with Damian, I'm surprised nobody thinks they're having an affair. Sheesh.
Frenemies - good one.
I hope the telenovela gods reveal to us how Babs & Dam hooked up . . . in the business sense.
Frenemies - good one.
I hope the telenovela gods reveal to us how Babs & Dam hooked up . . . in the business sense.
I watched "Cama adentro", "Live in Maid", last night. Can't figure out that weird translation. But I guess the final scene says it all. A rather abrupt ending, but interesting. The Argentine movies are very good.
Tonight it's "Oedipus Mayor" Takes place in modern day Colombia. War lords, & I guess the usual Oedipus stuff.
Tonight it's "Oedipus Mayor" Takes place in modern day Colombia. War lords, & I guess the usual Oedipus stuff.
Thank you, Jardinera. A wonderful summary! I enjoyed reading it as much as the episode itself. I feel like after some dawdling along, things are heating up.
I'm annoyed every time that Gonzalo shows his face, whining about our "pequena Lili." Where the heck was he for fifteen years, failing to visit or show any concern. Oh, well, if we wanted reality we'd sit and watch the news (surreal often, of course).
I'm annoyed every time that Gonzalo shows his face, whining about our "pequena Lili." Where the heck was he for fifteen years, failing to visit or show any concern. Oh, well, if we wanted reality we'd sit and watch the news (surreal often, of course).
I know it's "just a show", but anybody with some psych background: how can Babs get all choked up and impactada at the thought that she had her own daughter abused and now be ready to wreak vengeance upon Arty for his role in hiding Abora and then turn around and verbally and physically abuse another, even more innocent and vulnerable young woman in the same hour? I'm NOT feeling her pain upon realization that Abora is her supposed stillborn child. I think she is sincere when she tells Santi that he has her full support in finding her and Santi feels this sincerity, but the heffa is what? schizophrenic, psycopathic, sociopathic, split personality?
Enh? I guess I could just be satisfied with the street version: "She just a EEEvil Bee-yatch!"
Khalilah
Enh? I guess I could just be satisfied with the street version: "She just a EEEvil Bee-yatch!"
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 9:37:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 9:37:00 AM EDT
Hi guys! Glad it was a decent read.
Novelera: I was thinking maybe Barbara had possibly threatened Rubiel in the past?
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Doris: Liza D. Thanks! Her name kept escaping me. I agree, but of course Estev is too down on himself to believe in luhhv. ITA that Cristeta has got to be the ancestral spittin' image of Gardenia. Great catch!
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Khalilah: Love the way you get down to the basics here. The gringo falls in love with a "ho", and although he's "civilized" her, he's still the one to do it and then doesn't think he's worthy of her affections....that's messy anyway you put it. > ; ? )
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Variopinta - if there aren't any knives, Lili can still probably break the picture glass into deadly shards and get the upperhand on Barbara somewhere along the line. I'm all for that!
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Novelera: I was thinking maybe Barbara had possibly threatened Rubiel in the past?
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Doris: Liza D. Thanks! Her name kept escaping me. I agree, but of course Estev is too down on himself to believe in luhhv. ITA that Cristeta has got to be the ancestral spittin' image of Gardenia. Great catch!
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Khalilah: Love the way you get down to the basics here. The gringo falls in love with a "ho", and although he's "civilized" her, he's still the one to do it and then doesn't think he's worthy of her affections....that's messy anyway you put it. > ; ? )
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Variopinta - if there aren't any knives, Lili can still probably break the picture glass into deadly shards and get the upperhand on Barbara somewhere along the line. I'm all for that!
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LR: your dog reminds me of my son's, particularly because of the smaller ears. His is a type of shepherd that looks like a black lab. What breed is yours?
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Julie: I like your storyline. Either works for me. We know Barbara and Art always do their research and Damian couldn't have been chosen by chance. Now we're almost certain of it.
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Traveling Lady: Looks like you've been traveling a while because I haven't seen you post for a while. I think we're finally on the downward side of the rollercoaster ride and that's always the most fun in these things.
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Julie: I like your storyline. Either works for me. We know Barbara and Art always do their research and Damian couldn't have been chosen by chance. Now we're almost certain of it.
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Traveling Lady: Looks like you've been traveling a while because I haven't seen you post for a while. I think we're finally on the downward side of the rollercoaster ride and that's always the most fun in these things.
Variopinta -- If you like steamy and high drama, you will love "Oedipus Mayor". I saw it years ago in a latin film festival. It stars Jorge Perrugoria, one of my all-time favorite actors.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
I was sitting here thinking about our list of loose ends that we'd like to see cleared up. Did we ever find any significance of that phone call Erika received that revealed she has an uncle by the name of "Obregon"?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:28:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:28:00 AM EDT
Jardinera, let me join the chorous of thanks and appreciation for your detailed and zinger-filled recap. Also appreciate how you pop in to comment on the comments. I look forward to these weekend reads.
Khalilah, I think Barbara is the textbook illustration of a sociopath, for instance: exploitive, manipulative, cunning, lacking in remorse, guilt or shame, shallow in emotions, callous, lacking empathy, authoritarian,and desiring to exercise despotic control over their victims' lives.
Another hallmark is their incapacity for love. It will be interesting to see how Barbara would react to seeing Aurora again. For now she seems to feel angst, grief and shock since finding out that Aurora is her daughter. Will she be able to feel real love for her and guilt in how she arranged for Camilo to abuse her and then herself cruelly threw her out? I'm most interested in seeing how this plays out. For now, she seems able to compartmentalize her feelings for her own daugher and continue to abuse and scheme against the Elizalde children, who have done nothing to her.
Jackie
Khalilah, I think Barbara is the textbook illustration of a sociopath, for instance: exploitive, manipulative, cunning, lacking in remorse, guilt or shame, shallow in emotions, callous, lacking empathy, authoritarian,and desiring to exercise despotic control over their victims' lives.
Another hallmark is their incapacity for love. It will be interesting to see how Barbara would react to seeing Aurora again. For now she seems to feel angst, grief and shock since finding out that Aurora is her daughter. Will she be able to feel real love for her and guilt in how she arranged for Camilo to abuse her and then herself cruelly threw her out? I'm most interested in seeing how this plays out. For now, she seems able to compartmentalize her feelings for her own daugher and continue to abuse and scheme against the Elizalde children, who have done nothing to her.
Jackie
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:42:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 10:42:00 AM EDT
Anon 10:27, I saw
Jorge Perrugoria in Fresa y Chocolate & thought he was wonderful. It was driving me crazy that he looked like someone & then it hit me, a young Bill Maher.
Here's the list again.
Good one Alice, seems odd that they would use that name since we already have a Dr O. So must be some connection.
loose ends
Gonzo's car
Marcario
The envelope found in Artemio's office
The real Franco Santorro
AB's phone # Denia retrieved long ago
DDenia's shopping bag.
Tio Obregón
How did Babs & Damian meet?
Jorge Perrugoria in Fresa y Chocolate & thought he was wonderful. It was driving me crazy that he looked like someone & then it hit me, a young Bill Maher.
Here's the list again.
Good one Alice, seems odd that they would use that name since we already have a Dr O. So must be some connection.
loose ends
Gonzo's car
Marcario
The envelope found in Artemio's office
The real Franco Santorro
AB's phone # Denia retrieved long ago
DDenia's shopping bag.
Tio Obregón
How did Babs & Damian meet?
Jackie: I liked your explanation of Barbara Greco's being a textbook case of sociopathic behavior. My question is was she born that way or was she nurtured to be that way? I'm sure there is a school of thought for either side of the issue. I don't know much about the topic except for bits and pieces.
Jardinera, again a marvelous recap. I too look forward to hearing your take on things on the weekend. Matters really do seem to be picking up steam. Maybe it's because Anibal is such a zero or maybe it's the ridiculous mustache, but I just can't bring myself to take Grandpa Jerónimo seriously, and don't understand why Ana Gregoria hasn't busted out laughing at this ludicrous creepy guy. There are some genes that just shouldn't be passed on.
Carlos
Carlos
Variopinta/Alice: I'd add a couple things now to the loose ends list.
How Art found Barb
Aurora's daddy
Barb's family history
Where Barb found the bruja, Rosie
How Art found Barb
Aurora's daddy
Barb's family history
Where Barb found the bruja, Rosie
Carlos: As for Grandpappy Jeronimo's electrifying looks and personality, I remember that old saw about there being no accounting for taste.....
I'm afraid that I, too, see Jeronimo only as Aniballs with a mustache. (Though something tells me that Aniballs would never lay a hand on Tomasa. She seems to be beneath his notice.)
And may I add that I have a very, very, very low opinion of Jeronimo taking advantage of a servant whose only option is to convince herself that it's an honor to have his attention. Especially in a time when women, especially servants, had less power and fewer choices than they have now.
Jeronimo probably has more knowledge of how the world works than Ana G does, yet he is clearly not worried about the consequences of his actions and how they will affect her. And it's not as though they're soulmates. He just thinks she's pretty and sweet. That is, not the type to put up a fight or blab.
And may I add that I have a very, very, very low opinion of Jeronimo taking advantage of a servant whose only option is to convince herself that it's an honor to have his attention. Especially in a time when women, especially servants, had less power and fewer choices than they have now.
Jeronimo probably has more knowledge of how the world works than Ana G does, yet he is clearly not worried about the consequences of his actions and how they will affect her. And it's not as though they're soulmates. He just thinks she's pretty and sweet. That is, not the type to put up a fight or blab.
Julie: ITA. I saw the pen as a trinket of sorts. It remains to be seen who gets her kicked out of the hacienda and if DJ shuns her the way we might expect Cad to do.
Dunno about the rest of you, but I actually am more interested in Ana's story than the rest of the characters right now.
Dunno about the rest of you, but I actually am more interested in Ana's story than the rest of the characters right now.
Thank you, Jackie, that about sums up our Babs! I thought perhaps she might soften a little toward Lilli after realizing her own daughter was still alive, like maybe all her evil was due to having lost her child. Nope. Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens when she sees Abora again. Muy interesante.
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 4:45:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 4:45:00 PM EDT
Julie - Tomasa is my favorite person on MEPS. She's the only one who hasn't done something idiotic.
Jardinera - join the club. I'm bored also and find AG more interesting.
Jardinera - join the club. I'm bored also and find AG more interesting.
That was a common thing in old Mexico as well as the old south and any place else where there were large land owners with servants, the patrón having his way with the servants. It looks like Jéronimo might have been better than most, he had a willing victim. How can you go wrong with a diary and a papermate?
Doris W. in TN
I like Tomasa also & I like Adolfina. They are very pretty women, it would be interesting to see them in less severe hair styles.
Some of the support actors are very good, not a bad role since you might always have a job.
I like Tomasa also & I like Adolfina. They are very pretty women, it would be interesting to see them in less severe hair styles.
Some of the support actors are very good, not a bad role since you might always have a job.
Doesn't Ciro seem serene and patient? I guess when you're dead, you have all the time in the world.
Carlos
Carlos
LOL, Carlos - but Ciro always seemed serene and patient, even when he was alive.
I'm with Jardinera and Doris in terms of finding Ana G's story more interesting than anyone else's at the moment. Well, Ana G and Venus and maybe Gardenia. I'm interested to see how their stories will hash out.
The rest of it would be suspenseful right now only if I were worried about the outcome (i.e. I feel pretty confident that Lili will eventually be rescued, Aurora and Santi will eventually be reunited, etc.), or if I didn't know that the big mysteries (i.e. what's the deal with Babs) never get solved before the final week.
Maybe we'll get lucky and more of the mystery resolutions will happen sooner than the final week. Otherwise, we're mostly just killing time till the final. In which case FrEd needs to take his shirt off a lot more often.
I'm with Jardinera and Doris in terms of finding Ana G's story more interesting than anyone else's at the moment. Well, Ana G and Venus and maybe Gardenia. I'm interested to see how their stories will hash out.
The rest of it would be suspenseful right now only if I were worried about the outcome (i.e. I feel pretty confident that Lili will eventually be rescued, Aurora and Santi will eventually be reunited, etc.), or if I didn't know that the big mysteries (i.e. what's the deal with Babs) never get solved before the final week.
Maybe we'll get lucky and more of the mystery resolutions will happen sooner than the final week. Otherwise, we're mostly just killing time till the final. In which case FrEd needs to take his shirt off a lot more often.
Re: Vidas Cruzadas~~~
By the way, in case anybody is interested, I just read that Vidas Cruzadas with Guy and Kate begins 8/12/09 and is only 15 epi's long.
By the way, in case anybody is interested, I just read that Vidas Cruzadas with Guy and Kate begins 8/12/09 and is only 15 epi's long.
more loose ends...
What about the expensive horse that was going to "destroy" Cami
Who Dominga is related to
Who is Fr/Ed's father
What happened to Barb that made her so wicked
What about the expensive horse that was going to "destroy" Cami
Who Dominga is related to
Who is Fr/Ed's father
What happened to Barb that made her so wicked
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 6:50:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 6:50:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, Liliana (our puppy) is a black lab mix (shelter dog). We don't know what else is in the mix--one friend speculated part whippet (She's tall when she jumps up).
Another loose end: Eduardo's father
I too am interested in Ana G's story, but I also abhor Don Jeronimo's actions.
LR
Another loose end: Eduardo's father
I too am interested in Ana G's story, but I also abhor Don Jeronimo's actions.
LR
LR, what a great looking pooch Liliana is. Pups are such fun.
HIDE THE SHOES!
Congratulations and good luck.
Carlos
HIDE THE SHOES!
Congratulations and good luck.
Carlos
Thanks,Carlos--we think our Lili is cute, too. Hide the shoes? DH has lost 2 pair so far (did not think they were within her reach). The walks (2.5 miles morning and evening) are wearing me out....
Elle, GMTA...I did not see your loose end (Ed's father) until I'd posted the same comment.
LR
Elle, GMTA...I did not see your loose end (Ed's father) until I'd posted the same comment.
LR
I sometimes wonder what the actors think of the clothes they give to them to wear. For instance the most recent one they gave to Barb. She looked like a prostitute and not only that I wonder how the hell she got into it. Also, that last ugly skirt they gave Fer to wear.... ugh!!!(Just my opinion.)
Ann-NYC
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 8:55:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 8:55:00 PM EDT
Thanks for a wonderful recap Jardinera. I especially appreciated the pegarsele los sabanas translation. I spent several minutes on that one and couldn't figure it out. "Stuck to sheets" = overslept. Funny and descriptive but I didn't get it until your recap.
I actually felt sorry for Babs when she asked Santi about Aurora's mother. I had to slap myself and remember this woman is a cold-blooded murderer.
Khalilah, "favorite bed (or sack of flour) wench" LOL
I know Aurora bored us crazy with all her tears, but is anyone else starting to hopefully anticipate her and Santi's reunion? They are a sweet couple. I would feel badly if they are not together in the end.
I think very, very soon that Babs is going to realize that Franco is Eduardo--before Artemio Bravo figures it out--and somehow uses it to her advantage against AB.
I thought Fernanda looked very pretty (and appropriately dressed) at the office today.
LR, Puppies (despite the work) are the best. Hide more than the shoes, hide everything! (Except lots of toys) Get lots of pictures too, they grow up so fast. Congratulations!
Thanks all for letting me share my random thoughts. Barbara
I actually felt sorry for Babs when she asked Santi about Aurora's mother. I had to slap myself and remember this woman is a cold-blooded murderer.
Khalilah, "favorite bed (or sack of flour) wench" LOL
I know Aurora bored us crazy with all her tears, but is anyone else starting to hopefully anticipate her and Santi's reunion? They are a sweet couple. I would feel badly if they are not together in the end.
I think very, very soon that Babs is going to realize that Franco is Eduardo--before Artemio Bravo figures it out--and somehow uses it to her advantage against AB.
I thought Fernanda looked very pretty (and appropriately dressed) at the office today.
LR, Puppies (despite the work) are the best. Hide more than the shoes, hide everything! (Except lots of toys) Get lots of pictures too, they grow up so fast. Congratulations!
Thanks all for letting me share my random thoughts. Barbara
Permalink posted by : Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 9:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 9:17:00 PM EDT
Hi Jardinera...as usual, a great recap. The remark that made me laugh the hardest was "(Crap, story time is over)" Too funny.
Although honestly, I find those Ana Gregoria seduction scenes so physically disturbing I can hardly watch. Get absolutely nauseous. This shy, virginal young woman, who seemed hypnotized and scared rather than desirous...to me anyway...being sytematically and callously seduced by a man who had all the power. She had none. Ugh. I'm getting nauseous all over again just thinking about it.
An interesting story, yes. But very sad and with a tragic ending...for her...for her son...and for all the people her son is wreaking vengeance on.
Selfish action can and does affect so many others.
Although honestly, I find those Ana Gregoria seduction scenes so physically disturbing I can hardly watch. Get absolutely nauseous. This shy, virginal young woman, who seemed hypnotized and scared rather than desirous...to me anyway...being sytematically and callously seduced by a man who had all the power. She had none. Ugh. I'm getting nauseous all over again just thinking about it.
An interesting story, yes. But very sad and with a tragic ending...for her...for her son...and for all the people her son is wreaking vengeance on.
Selfish action can and does affect so many others.
Hi everyone! Just checking in before Design Star starts. Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I fell asleep trying to watch so missed some stuff. I'm with those that think Ana's story is much more interesting. Every time I see Jeronimo I think his mustache is going to start circling and take off like a helicopter. Ewwwww. Poor AG. She is so pretty. I hate seeing young innocent things taken advantage of. Thanks for explaining the new guy. He was in and out and I had no clue who he was. More later after Design Star.
AnnNYC: I have to admit to really disliking the bra-strap back on Barbie's yellow dress this time. I think they dress her like the high-priced whore she really is.
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Barbara: Share your thoughts with us anytime. That's what we all do here, amiga.
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JudyB: I felt pretty squeemish myself watching that seduction scene of Ana's. Perhaps we all did. Maybe it's because we know the sad way the rest of her story turns out and also it's so representative of the wrongs committed against the naive and the trusting ones of "the fairer sex" throughout history.
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Connie: LOL! Jeronimo's mustache twirly like a helicopter and ready to take off!~~ What a visual!!
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LR - That adorable puppy reminds me of when my son's was little and just makes me ache to remember how cute he was back then. However, cleaning up the piddle puddles was not!! ; ? )
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Barbara: Share your thoughts with us anytime. That's what we all do here, amiga.
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JudyB: I felt pretty squeemish myself watching that seduction scene of Ana's. Perhaps we all did. Maybe it's because we know the sad way the rest of her story turns out and also it's so representative of the wrongs committed against the naive and the trusting ones of "the fairer sex" throughout history.
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Connie: LOL! Jeronimo's mustache twirly like a helicopter and ready to take off!~~ What a visual!!
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LR - That adorable puppy reminds me of when my son's was little and just makes me ache to remember how cute he was back then. However, cleaning up the piddle puddles was not!! ; ? )
I agree with some of you commentors. With such a cast of terrific leads, F C and Silvia Navarro, and other terrific supporting actors, how can this novela wind up so boring. Probably the flu outbreak curtailed the hot romance, que lastima, and extending this thing just brought in too many idiotic story lines e.g. Esteve and Venus (really who cares.) I am having trouble remembering things that happened in the beginning since there is no continuity. It's an okay show, it just missed its potential, in my opinion. The best part... the funny recaps and comments.
Whew now I feel better but I hope I didn't ruin it for some MEPS lovers.
GinCA
Whew now I feel better but I hope I didn't ruin it for some MEPS lovers.
GinCA
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 1:33:00 AM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 1:33:00 AM EDT
I really, truly wish they would stop extending these things. I can't think of any time when the extension wasn't annoying.
Oh! I keep forgetting to mention. Sofia Vergara (Dr. Hotlips from FELS) is going to be in a sitcom this fall where she'll be married to Ed O'Neill (Al Bundy from Married with Children). Ensemble cast, lots of people. I forget what it's called, but it'll be on ABC. Statistically speaking, odds are that it'll stink. But will it stink worse than the amnesia/jungle/Dr. Hotlips storyline in FELS? Doubtful!
Oh! I keep forgetting to mention. Sofia Vergara (Dr. Hotlips from FELS) is going to be in a sitcom this fall where she'll be married to Ed O'Neill (Al Bundy from Married with Children). Ensemble cast, lots of people. I forget what it's called, but it'll be on ABC. Statistically speaking, odds are that it'll stink. But will it stink worse than the amnesia/jungle/Dr. Hotlips storyline in FELS? Doubtful!
I watched "Edipo Alcalde", "Oedipus Mayor" last night. I guess it was a little too Oedipus for me. I didn't expect it to follow the Greek myth so closely, a little extreme for current times. They even used the names Laius & Jocasta. But it was set in jungles of Colombia & I enjoyed the scenery.
I agree with those who wish the writers hadn't e-x-t-e--n--d--e--d this TN. It makes me appreciate all the more the abridged versions that Televisa et al. release. On Amazon, there are lots of complaints about how much is left out, but mostly I cheer :-) . Not that I'd want to reduce MEPS to 12-14 hours, as will probably be the case when it's available on Amazon and in the stores, but there are any number of subplots I wouldn't miss at all. ¡Para nada!
You can vote for el guapisimo & others on the People Español site. We can see our heart throb in the magazine.
so far FC has the highest %
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/pespanol/galleries/0,22491,1915223,00.html
so far FC has the highest %
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/pespanol/galleries/0,22491,1915223,00.html
Does anyone else get creeped out by Anyballs and Anyballs dressed in his big boy clothes with the gaggy mustache?
Thanks for the recap.....but like so many of the commenters this novela is getting a bit boring to me too......I love Colunga in almost anything...but its always the romance and more precise goal he has in mind that excites me.... this novela needs to get better, real quick.....I think it has potential.......I too was thinking that barbie must of really put a scare into the son of the dead women.. the way he took off from Barbies office....I look forward to tonights (mondays) captitula.....Ed/Fr kisses Fer.....yeah.....BNinCA
Carlos read you bio.....I am from a hispanic background and have barely decided now to learn the spanish language....it is to say the least....diffacult...congrats...
BNinCA
Carlos read you bio.....I am from a hispanic background and have barely decided now to learn the spanish language....it is to say the least....diffacult...congrats...
BNinCA
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:07:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:07:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Jardinera~~~Due to a family reunion weekend and work this morning , I am just getting around to reading the recap and comments. Connie~~My daughter's flight back to Toronto was cancelled last night due to thunderstorms there, so we watched Design Star [and Made of Honor] together. I think that the judges sent home the people who deserved to be eliminated. I'm hoping Dan wins. I agree with the person who thinks that Barbie's clothes are getting sluttier...so different from the prim outfits she used to wear. I guess the veneer is wearing dangerously thin and her mask is beginning to slip. I too think that Aurora and Santi , our young and innocent couple , will have a happy ending together and baby will make tres. I agree about all the loose endings listed and add : Why do the wardrobe people hate these actresses ? Good call on DDenia and Marge's grandma as the disapproving maid [who was Matilde's personal maid in Amor Real...these folks who play servants seem to be eternally cast as servants in every novela] . However, maybe we should be cheering her. She might have meant that sour look for old Jerry who probably hit on her and all the other female servants he could corner. [''Here's a pen and some paper, Sweet Thing . Let's go do an inventory of the storeroom. ''] Bleeeccchh. Who knows ...he could be an ancestor of DDenia and Marge's , too. And under the mustache and mariachi outfit is the same boring , insipid guy we love to hate ...Any?balls. Camilo seems to be the grandson who inherited the eye for the laaadies . Having spent the weekend with cousins and aunts and daughters and nieces and nephews, I can see the power of DNA firsthand. Like the Elizades , the apples fell close to the trees in our family.
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:08:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:08:00 PM EDT
Jardinera: A great recap. Thank you.
Diana in MA
Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:15:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:15:00 PM EDT
I really enjoyed Jardinera's recap and all the comments. Parts of this TN can be so annoying, especially the bad costumes.
Why is Barbi wearing a cream satin dress with a black lace midriff inset and cut-out back at the office? She has enough experience as a "high-powered" businesswoman that she ought to know better. Arrgghh!
La Paloma
Why is Barbi wearing a cream satin dress with a black lace midriff inset and cut-out back at the office? She has enough experience as a "high-powered" businesswoman that she ought to know better. Arrgghh!
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
This may or may not be another loose end, but what happened to the body of Rene Manzaneres? He was the guy who worked for AB who was in Fr/Ed's house and took his passport. Manzanares was shot by Lucio after he stopped Lucio from raping Gardenia. Lucio never finished burying him, then the body disappeared...
I too am creeped out by DJ and Ana. She must be what? 17 or 18? The only thing creepier is thinking about Babs and Gonzo...EEEEWWWW.
KJJ
I too am creeped out by DJ and Ana. She must be what? 17 or 18? The only thing creepier is thinking about Babs and Gonzo...EEEEWWWW.
KJJ
Xintperuvian, hang on to your hat, old Silvestre said that she was 15 yrs. old when she got pregnant. Eww, indeed. Let's hope Grandpa Jerry met a satisfying, painful end.
Carlos
Carlos
After that comment about Jeronimo's wife Altagracia going to church everyday to pray for children, I think that Ana had twin boys [Art and Gonzo] and Don Jerry took Gonzo and left Art with Ana. I think that Art and Gonzo are not half brothers, but rather twin brothers. Being the twin left behind with the outcast unwed mother would explain Art's desire for revenge on the Elizades. Also, Barbie definitely seems to know all about the woman Dam cheated and her son, and Sonny surely recognized Barbwire because he was smart enough to turn tail and RUN LIKE THE WIND as soon as he saw her. Maybe Barbie helped Dam with his scheme and then expected him to help her with her job to bring down the Elizades. [''You tell me your dreams, and I'll tell you mine.''] I wonder what Barb plans to do to Art. She can't out him to the Elizades without getting hoisted on her own petard. I'd really like to see her hoisted on her own petard.
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:47:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 3:47:00 PM EDT
Poor Ana, instead of a nice piece of jewelry, the creepy Jeronimo gifts her with a diary and a pen so she can conveniently provide evidence for posterity of their affair. What gigolo in his right mind gives a diary and paper to his mistress unless he's planning on being very very nice to Ana Gregoria in the future which I doubt.
GinCA
GinCA
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 4:12:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 4:12:00 PM EDT
I liked Barb's dress until she turned around and had that weird bra strap thing. I could never get away with that.
Susanlynn,
I too am thinking that Ana had twins. Maybe DJ's wife was pregnant at the same time and her baby died. Ana was forced to give up one of her sons who was substituted for the dead child. That child (Gonzo) then led a life of wealth and social standing and the other twin (Artemio) grew up as the bastard child of a servant. Artemio would have his own reasons for revenge as well as reasons for avenging his mother. Ana would have been a servant to one of her own children and was forced to watch him grow up without the ability to acknowledge him as her own son.
I too am thinking that Ana had twins. Maybe DJ's wife was pregnant at the same time and her baby died. Ana was forced to give up one of her sons who was substituted for the dead child. That child (Gonzo) then led a life of wealth and social standing and the other twin (Artemio) grew up as the bastard child of a servant. Artemio would have his own reasons for revenge as well as reasons for avenging his mother. Ana would have been a servant to one of her own children and was forced to watch him grow up without the ability to acknowledge him as her own son.
Really OT--I just found out that my boss' friend's daughter who lives in Portland passed away this afternoon. Which newspaper should I check for the Obit? Thanks in advance.
I forgot what a Petard was can someone remind me. Thanks. :-P
I forgot what a Petard was can someone remind me. Thanks. :-P
Oops, used gigolo incorrectly...replace with a** or whatever. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 4:48:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 4:48:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Jardinera! Is your remark the first time anyone has made a comparison between Ciro and Yoda?? Classic! That thought was flying around just under my brain radar! I'm so glad you mentioned it!
Jane
Jane
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 5:14:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 5:14:00 PM EDT
Wasn't Ana Gregoria banished from the town in disgrace with her hijo?
I also thought maybe Artemio was the evil twin, but more likely, Jéronimo's wife & victima had a child at the same time. One to live in poverty & the other in luxury. Gonzo wouldn't have a clue, which is nothing unusual.
I also thought maybe Artemio was the evil twin, but more likely, Jéronimo's wife & victima had a child at the same time. One to live in poverty & the other in luxury. Gonzo wouldn't have a clue, which is nothing unusual.
xlntperuvian, I don't think Manzanares's body is a loose end - Bravo told Babs that his guys had "taken care of it."
However, depending on what "taking care of it" entailed (i.e. burying it vs. destroying it) it could still turn up later, I suppose...
However, depending on what "taking care of it" entailed (i.e. burying it vs. destroying it) it could still turn up later, I suppose...
xintperuvian: Welcome! Guess the others answered your questions.
Susanlynn/Xintperuvian: I like that twins and swapped baby idea. I was just thinking we didn't have a swapped baby written into the script so far this time. Works for me!
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Carlos: a mind like a steel trap. I totally forgot Ana was only 15. Even EWWWWW-ier.
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La Paloma: ITA. Totally slutty office dress-wear. In fact until last night I thought Fer's spaghetti strap stuff usually was, too.
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Diane in MA: hey there! Missed seeing you and thought you'd gotten bored with this thing and given up. Glad you're still among the suffering multitude here.
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Jane: Somebody may have commented already about Yoda, but I don't remember. Either way, the image in my brain was so overpowering that he might as well have materialized on my couch! I was also got to thinking of the Kung Fu master and Little Grasshopper but Yoda and The Force had me giggling so it won out.....
Susanlynn/Xintperuvian: I like that twins and swapped baby idea. I was just thinking we didn't have a swapped baby written into the script so far this time. Works for me!
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Carlos: a mind like a steel trap. I totally forgot Ana was only 15. Even EWWWWW-ier.
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La Paloma: ITA. Totally slutty office dress-wear. In fact until last night I thought Fer's spaghetti strap stuff usually was, too.
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Diane in MA: hey there! Missed seeing you and thought you'd gotten bored with this thing and given up. Glad you're still among the suffering multitude here.
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Jane: Somebody may have commented already about Yoda, but I don't remember. Either way, the image in my brain was so overpowering that he might as well have materialized on my couch! I was also got to thinking of the Kung Fu master and Little Grasshopper but Yoda and The Force had me giggling so it won out.....
Thanks Julie, Variopinta and Jardinera! I didn't get to see a few of the episodes after Manzanare's body disappeared so I didn't know what happened, whether it was another "loose end" or not.
Ana was only 15?? Holy cow! So Don J was a child rapist! No wonder the Elizalde clan has such bad Karma...
I can't help but wonder if maybe Dominga was the original "baby swapper" (if that is what happened) with Gonzo and Artemio. She swapped babies and then dragged Ana off into banishment. Maybe Don J paid her to get Ana out of the way. That might explain why Artemio had Dominga on the payroll to keep an eye on Aurora. He grew up with her. No wonder he's so vengeful.
Ana was only 15?? Holy cow! So Don J was a child rapist! No wonder the Elizalde clan has such bad Karma...
I can't help but wonder if maybe Dominga was the original "baby swapper" (if that is what happened) with Gonzo and Artemio. She swapped babies and then dragged Ana off into banishment. Maybe Don J paid her to get Ana out of the way. That might explain why Artemio had Dominga on the payroll to keep an eye on Aurora. He grew up with her. No wonder he's so vengeful.
I don't find Ana Gregoria's story that interesting because Silvestre already told us what happened. It's rather a cliche anyway, and a sad one. They need to fill in the blanks on this novela and add some real love interests and some continuity instead of the juvenile crap and red herrings that they've foisted on the viewers so far.
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 7:57:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 7:57:00 PM EDT
I'm posting this site again to vote for FC for best actor
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http://www.peopleenespanol.com/pespanol/galleries/0,22491,1915223,00.html
It certainly could be possible, but I'm doubting the separated twins theory. For one thing, Gonzo's hair is completely white and AB's is only slightly grey. I had the impression AB was supposed to be younger than Gonzo. I think they're half brothers.
I don't think they said Altagracia had no children, just that she was praying for a large family. Maybe Gonzo was the only one she had at the point the diary was being written and couldn't conceive again. We'll probably find out more if they'd stop preventing Ciro the Friendly Ghost from reading more of the diary.
The fact that the same actor plays both roles could lead us to think of twins.
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I don't think they said Altagracia had no children, just that she was praying for a large family. Maybe Gonzo was the only one she had at the point the diary was being written and couldn't conceive again. We'll probably find out more if they'd stop preventing Ciro the Friendly Ghost from reading more of the diary.
The fact that the same actor plays both roles could lead us to think of twins.
Permalink posted by : Monday, August 10, 2009 at 9:15:00 PM EDT
: Monday, August 10, 2009 at 9:15:00 PM EDT
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