Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Manana Monday Sep 21 - Luke I am your father *psshhh* *psshh*
Padre Bosco tells Fr/Ed that Artemio Bravo came to see him and that he promised to produce Eduardo’s dead body Monday night.
Barbara tells Gonzalo that Aurora’s baby is Camilo’s. She convinces Gonzalo that they have to leave Camilo in jail or he’ll try and hurt Aurora, or try to make her abort the baby.
Camilo suffers in jail. Good.
Fr/Ed hurries Padre Bosco into a cab before Fernanda comes out and finds him there. He gives the Padre a manly one-armed hug, complete with hearty pats on the back.
Santiago wants to know who the other man is that Aurora was with – Fernanda tells him it was Camilo. Predictably and understandably, Santiago freaks out.
Erika argues with her parents about moving the wedding date. I thought her mom was on board, but I guess since her dad came home they are all fighting about it again. He doesn’t understand what the hurry is, is she pregnant? She says no! She is just desperate to get married immediately or she’s afraid she won’t get to marry Franco at all. Her dad says she’s acting like a spoiled brat teenager. He’s right. He says fine, if she moves the date, he won’t go. What does she say about that? She tells him that’s too bad for him, she’s getting married on Saturday anyway.
Santiago says he will kill Camilo. Fer says chill, he’s already in jail. Santiago says why? WHY? I couldn’t figure out if he was asking why is Camilo in jail? I guess he means why does Camilo always do this to him.
Fr/Ed plans his assault on Artemio Bravo’s house. Martina arrives, Silvestre’s eye surgery was a great success. Fr/Ed tells her what happened to Esteve.
Santiago wails about Camilo’s history of screwing him over constantly. Fernanda says there is one thing he can’t take away, Santiago’s baby! Uh oh, bad foreshadowing here.
Camilo tells Barbara to get him out of jail or he’ll tell his father everything about her. She says no he won’t, or she’ll get him cut out of his inheritance, what little of it there is left. She says he must follow her orders. She told Gonzalo that the baby is Camilo’s to protect him. If Gonzalo thought the baby was Santiago’s, Camilo wouldn’t have any support from him.
Fernanda and Santiago agree that Santiago will pretend to go back to Florence, but they’ll meet up later at a hotel where he’ll be hiding out. She and Franco are trying to take down La Hiena, they will continue working on it with Santiago’s help.
The mailman brings some mail to the Lactos front desk, where Gardenia is holding down the fort. Metiche Gardenia flips through the envelopes and finds a big card for Fernanda conveniently unsealed, she reads the note from Erika that the wedding has been moved up to this Saturday.
Fr/Ed tells Esteve, now in a wheelchair and looking like (pardon my French) complete shit, that the wedding has been moved up to THIS Saturday. Esteve does the “jeez wtf” sigh/eye roll thing.
Gardenia, now in boobie enhancing regular clothes, sneaks out of the office.
Esteve can’t make Fr/Ed see reason. Fr/Ed says he’ll do the only thing left to save Lily, show the real Eduardo Juarez to Artemio Bravo.
Fernanda and Santiago put on a very badly acted farewell performance, Santiago leaves to get in a cab. Barb sees this happen and is beyond happy that Franco Santoro is such a wonderful ally, getting her orders done so quickly.
Esteve says ok then what happens when Barbara learns the truth about his identity? And Fernanda? Fr/Ed says he’ll do what he promised, save Liliana. Esteve says then what, Fernanda will be so impressed she’ll forgive you? Fr/Ed says no, that will never happen. There isn’t any hope for him and Fernanda.
Flor looks for Gardenia, can’t find her anywhere.
Gardenia is at Erika’s house, Erika greets her while on the phone, going over extremely mundane and boring (to me) details of flowers with the florist.
Barbara visits Aurora. She says she is going to tell the whole truth now, but first, does Aurora have any relatives? No. Barb says she doesn’t either, that she knows of. She tells about her abusive parents, one night when she was only 11 she ran away from home and that same night the house burned down with her parents sleeping in it. Wow what a coincidence. She has a flashback of herself being treated roughly by her father, a greasy looking guy, while her mother is passed out drunk. She manages to knock him over and he hits his head. She douses the place in gasoline and sends it up in flames. Back in the present she tells Aurora that someone then came into her life and took care of her and gave her her new identity of Barbara Greco, his name was Artemio Bravo. Even though she was only 11, he made her his woman and everything was fine until she was pregnant. Bravo had other plans, so when the baby was born he told her it was a boy and that the baby died at birth. She never saw the baby at all. Now she discovered the truth – it wasn’t a boy, it was a beautiful girl, it was YOU Aurora. You are my daughter! They cry.
Santiago takes a cab to a hotel, already in high spirits somehow, even right after hearing about how Camilo screwed his girlfriend. He arrives at what is apparently the only hotel in all of Mexico City, the same Suites where Rico Suave stayed when hoping to woo Fernanda. He tells Fernanda he’s there (by cell phone) and she says she’s on her way. They hang up and Fer sees the card on her desk about the wedding, she thinks “so it’s a done deal.”
Gardenia tells Erika that Franco and Fernanda have something going on between them.
Barbara tells Aurora that she had a feeling about her the first day, when Santiago brought her to the house. She is telling her the whole truth now to try and make up for all the mean things she did and said to her (this doesn’t make any sense, but whatever). Aurora says “where is my father?” Barbara says she already said, he disappeared when Aurora was born. Aurora says WHERE? Do you know where?
Bravo yells at Liliana, he wants her to tell him the truth about Franco, etc. He threatens her and says she really is an Elizalde, she is just as bad as the rest of them.
Barbara says why do you want to know, he’s a horrible person, forget about him. Aurora asks if he looks like Gonzalo, Barb says yes. Aurora says WHY does he look just like Don Gonzalo?
Gardenia goes on about Franco and Fernanda. Erika says she already knew. Gardenia says she wanted to warn her so she could call off the wedding in time. Erika says no, she will marry Franco if it is the last thing she does.
At the hotel, Fernanda gives the diary to Santiago for him to read. She tells him who Artemio Bravo is and how he is related to them. Santiago says he must see Aurora right away.
Aurora says she saw Bravo at the house back in the pueblo but Santiago was the only one who talked to him. She asks Barbara if he knows that she found her after all this time, Barbara says no and he can’t find out. Forget about him. Let’s leave, we can go anywhere, I have lots of money. Aurora says no, she won’t go anywhere until she meets and talks to her father.
Dum dum DUMMMM
The date for the Gran Final has been announced – Monday October 5. That just so happens to be my turn to write again. However, especially if it is longer than a one hour show, we can take parts and make it a joint effort, whatever you other recappers want to do. Just two more weeks for all to be revealed and resolved!
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Has Santi been pumping iron in Italy? That boy is about to bust out of his shirtsleeves, yowza. Surely he and Aurora won't really be half first cousins, or first half cousins, or whatever they are supposed to be. Will they?
Thanks Ferro!
I think dear old dad was raping Babs when she was 11. He was leering at her scrawny little legs before he grabbed her. Moms was passed out drunk, and at that point she'd had enough.
Artemio Bravo wasn't quite so perverted. He waited until she was 15 to jump her bones.
Does Aurora really want to meet her pops or is this a stalling tactic? Fer told her under no circumstances to leave with Babs.
Well, either we have Aurora and Santi as MORE than kissing cousins or Montserrat had a lover, who is Santiago's real father, as several commenters hypothesized a while back. I was proved wrong. I was expecting some other father when Babs told the whole story, but AB is Aurora's father, which explains his emotion thinking she died in the cantina fire.
Did I miss it? Why in the world won't someone tell Santiago that Aurora wasn't a willing participant, that she was drugged?
Looks like Gardenia's plan to ward off Erika blew up in her face. I don't think it's close enough to the end for her next move (in the same scene) to be to tell Erika about Eduardo. I think she's going to go away and live to fight another day.
The weak points in this plot are just creaking and groaning. For instance, Fr/Ed's continuing insistence on marrying Err even though he clearly can't stand her. For another, keeping Aurora's drug-rape story from Santi. Preposterous beyond beanie capabilities.
I agree with those who are extolling Fer's acting abilities. They toned down her eyebrows and now I cheer her too. Fr/Ed on the other hand has been such a rotten actor in this show I'm not sure my love of him will recover.
Good title, Chris!
So what's the deal with the inheritance now, any grandchildren who are born soon will split the dregs of the inheritance? Doesn't that create an unfortunate situation for the kids who get born later on as well as their parents? (OK, right now Fernanda is the only remaining potential parent, but Lili and Camilo aren't 100% out of the running yet.) Possible resentment between cousins, siblings, etc. due to unequal means? Not to mention resentment between parents and offspring, maybe? What was the rationale behind that?
ARE Fer's eyebrows toned down, or have we simply gotten used to them? I can't tell!
Was it my imagination or did Abora cringe at Babs' confession? Maybe that's why she's so obsessed with meeting Mystery Dad...she's hoping her genetic material has SOME redeeming qualities other than what she inherited from lying, scheming, cheating, psycho Babs.
Oh Fr/Ed, give it up. Your scheming hasn't gotten you anywhere, much like Babs.
Shrieka has no shame. DDenia could tell her that Fr/Ed was in the hot tub with Cad & Shrieka would still say "I'm marrying him regardless." Yeesh.
I don't think Santi & Abora are related. I'm sure they'll throw something crazy at us in the final hours, which apparently are going to be overstuffed with resolutions galore.
Maggarita
:-/
So La Hyena was abused and became a murderous firebug at 11; and Don Artemio made her his lover at 15. Wow! Yipes! I think Aurora was more stunned and shocked than crying for joy at finding her mother.
Ferro - Melinama posted a note last week about doing the grand finale as a team effort - don't worry, you will have plenty of help recapping that night.
Jody :)
Santi did look like he put on some muscle. A far cry from Meester James.
I say let Santi give Cammiiii the ass-whoopin he deserves.
I'm still trying to figure out how they are going to do the DNA thing when they dig up "Eduardo."
Carlos
Camilo suffers in jail. Good. Priceless!
Julie - if you find the whole/entire episode on youtube, please post a link for me. I posted on the previous recap that 'esnovelas' stuff has all been removed from YouTube.
Kudos to Erika for moving up the wedding date, so the best man can look his worst for the photos.
Maybe Santi can hide out with Vlad and start a support group, "fathers anonymous", until both their babies are born.
"I'm sure they'll throw something crazy at us in the final hours, which apparently are going to be overstuffed with resolutions galore."
Truer words were never spoken... er... written.
My votes-
1)AB is Babs daddy, she hates him as much as she hated her own father.
2)Babs is Abora's mommy
3) Santiago is adopted, he is the father of Abora's bebe, therefore no inbreeding, the tree of them can live happily...
Not sure how this stupid wedding thing is going to be resolved. Maybe my Gardenia will do something even more rash to try to torpedo it- hope not, I hope Err decides it's not such a good idea- yeah, right. Twice she's said something about marrying Fr if it's the last thing she does, not a good staement to make. Liked that daddy Augustin stood up to the quincenera like he did- I like that character ( better than the sleazy lawyer the actor played in a psat TN).
The real puzzle- what is Eddy's plan? Does he really intend to present himself as Eduardo to AB? A suicide mission, but there are better ways to avoid la boda. At least he is showing remorse for all the pain his actions have caused the people that he cares about. He is still a horribly flawed "hero".
Santi and Aurora aren't even the same generation, technically - His father is the half brother of her grandfather. I have no idea what that makes them but I'm sure far enough apart to marry legally, but not far enough apart for it to not be creepy. For SURE either AB isn't her father, or Gonz is not Santi's father. One or the other.
Novelera: Yeah I think we were meant to infer that Babs was being sexually abused by her father at age 11 (who knows of he did it more than once) and she did say that Artemio made her his when she was 15. She also said that her parents took her turns to beat her.
I feel like this begs the question: Was Barbara evil or did her parents and Artemio made her the rotten person we know now?
The episode can be viewed with this playlist.
Jarocha
Oct 5th, great I won't miss anything & you guys can catch me up on Sortilegio.
Fernanda didn't tell Santiago that Aurora was drugged!!!!!!!???????,say what?
Erika didn't seal her fate did she, that she will marry Franco if it's the last thing she does. Keep going Gardenia, tell her he's just the campesino Eduardo.
Wonder who Monserrat was having a fling with that produced Santiago?
Clearly Santiago is not like Samson, a haircut produced some fine muscles. He can use them to pound the mierda out of Camilo.
La niñita Babs did a great job catching la adulta Babs evil expressions.
I've been catching a little bit of La Madrasta on Telefutura (just found out I had it). Haven't the slightest idea what's going on, but Martina is in it & Fernando from FELS. Fernando is one of my favorite bad guys along with Damian. Strange, but I just can't stand Camilo.
Tks for the great recap & comments.
Anyone else notice it?
Keep a ready supply of tissues at hand. Sob City!
maggarita
;-)
I think the change happened really early. The Dolly that is there now is dfinitely the same Dolly that thought she was pregnant, which was very early on. Where I remember there being a difference is in the very first episodes when Dolly calls Erika about getting her hair colored (really random scene to advertise a hair product) and it turns out that the color her mom was buying was the same one the hairdresser was giving Erika. I don't remember what the actress on the phone looked like, but I remember once we finally saw Dolly at home when she and hubby returned from their trip that I felt I was seeing that actress for the first time. I can't remember what she looked liked when Erika spoke to her parents via phone when they were travelling through Europe.
Ferro- You said that "Santi and Aurora aren't even the same generation, technically - His father is the half brother of her grandfather." But Gonzo and Artemio ARE half brothers. And they are the fathers of Aurora and Santi. So they are of the same generation.
-Vivi in DC
I guess Production got a good rate for the room at the Suites International ****
Eduardo doesn't make sense. Maybe Camilo's gang needs to oops upside Eduardo's head to knock some sense into him.
Aurora is Babs undoing. I don't think Babs told Aurora she killed her parents, it was like "I ran away and somebody set fire to them that same night."
And why kill her mother?
Wouldn't it make more sense to test Deaduardo's ADN to Soledad's ADN instead of Ramon's, since Soledad could have been with someone else to produce Deaduardo? Just because Soledad married Ramon Cruz doesn't mean her child is his.
DDenia has finally met somebody more desperate for Eduardo than she is. DDenia could have told Erika that Franco and Esteve were lovers and Erika still would be like "Nope, I'm marrying him if it's the last thing I do."
Doris, glad you had a great time at the Ryman last night because if you are the official beanie maker, you will be working nonstop for a year making all new beanies for the MEPS viewers. Wow...this novela is so very ridiculous .
Melinama, I have been agreeing with the ideas in your comments on the character Ed/FR and further the abilities of FC in this TN for the last several days. What a truly terrible role for FC, no one, not even Sir Laurence Oliver could have pulled off this stinky, stupid roll with any credibility.
Sandy in TN
Abuse scene of Barbara as a child was horrible and the "dead eyes" as she watched the fire perfectly blended into adult Barb's dead eyes. Feeling a lot of sympathy for la Hiena as she has been abused by men (and women) for much of her life. Also, fire-setting is supposed to be typical of children who were sexually abused.
Yes, I believe Fernanda's eyebrows were toned down...when they show the early scenes from her meeting Eduardo and dousing him with mud from her car, they're a lot more prominent. Now they're softer and the feathered bangs also soften her face. She's looking good.
Loved Aurora's non-stop cringing when hearing the mommy news. Figure her insistence on meeting Artemio is just to delay having to run off with Barb...something she has no intention of doing.
Also - even though Fernanda looks like she's making a Michael Jackson tribute, she really makes the hat work. She looks hot right now, maybe the different eyebrows help that too.
bravo/a = angry in L.Am.
so got me to thinking
The writers have a purpose in naming the characters.
As someone pointed out many episodes ago, there has never been a good person named Hannibal. I remember an old, old movie in which the evil kid was the son of Satan & named Damien.
Babs may be a crazy, cold-hearted monster, but her parents and Artemio contributed in a big way to that.
-Vivi in DC
-Vivi in DC
I was actually cheering DDenia on when she went to Erica's house, but her plan did not work. Dang! Erica just seems to be turning into a nutcase over this boda obsession; she even gets that crazy kind of look each time she states her determination to marry. Hell or high water or infidelity, she will not back down (yet).
This TN certainly has its flaws and the lapses in logic can be exasperating, but I'm continuing to be uber-engaged and lately even on the edge of my seat. Still a huge fan.
And also because I think that when she realizes that Fernanda wasn't betraying her and sleeping with her fiance, their friendship will count for something again.
Jarocha, thanks for the youtube link. I don't know if I ever would have found that on my own!
I am hoping deep down that poor Aurora is NOT Barbara's daughter. She has been looking for her Mom for so long, and now to finally find her and to have her taken away (by death or jail or whatever the writers bring)
It would be too sad. Also Aurora didn't look all that excited when she told her.
With all the money Fr/Ed has he should put guards around the Church to protect Padre Bosco from Artemio. OR maybe when Artemio is at the church doing his DNA test, Fr/Ed could get a swat team to Bravo's house and rescue Lily. Then leave a big E on the wall like Zorro !
Those who need AFDB (aluminum foil deflector beanies) can DIY with instructions at: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
These can be used as a handy multi-purpose liner for your Telenovela Beanie Hat.
Wow, looks like MEPS and BLF (on Telefutila) will both end at the same time. Whew! Carrying two telenovelas is a heavy load and I don't like to do it often.
Looking forward to Sortilegio next.
doris. (signed in with my alter-ego, same dog in photo...maybe she needs a beanie hat . . . )
The other thing I disagree with is everyone assigning Erika the total responsibility of calling off the wedding. I want Franco to be a man instead of a puppet and step up to the plate and call it off. That would certainly be a damper for me if I could only have the man I loved if the other woman jilted him. That's exactly what we're asking Erika to do, jilt him so that Fernanda can have him. Sure I want Fer to have him but because of action that he takes, not because Erika decided she didn't want him for whatever reason. At that point, he becomes Erika's left overs.
Sandy in TN
I think you're on to something. I (we)am/are always talking about Gardenia and Erica and their misguided affections. Why doesn't the galan of this novela take control of the situation instead of hatching or abetting the world's silliest plans that are hurting everyone including, among many others, the parish priest,Father Bosco. Now we are talking about exhuming a corpse that doesn't exist to save Lili's life.
HGH...With all the annoyance, I'm still a faithful follower too!
Sandy in TN
Also what was up with Venus' knock-em-dead coctail dress in the hospital? Fancy cafeteria there I guess since that's where she and Martina were heades.
It's his version of "if I do this, then the terrorists win"
-Vivi in DC
Aurora and Santi cannot have a child because they are apparently related, but they are having one. Thus... not related. So then, either Santi is not Gonzo's son (adopted or Mons had a fling) or Artemio is not Aurora's father. So... how have the oddsmakers set the odds? Which is it? :)
JeffMN
Re Santi - I agree with whoever said Montserrat was too much of an ice cube to have had an affair. I don't think Santi is adopted either. I keep coming back to the original TN that this one is based on, Pura Sangre (Pure Blood). Who is the pure blood? It's not Artemio, therefore would not be Aurora either (if she's indeed his daughter) or her child. I can't help thinking it has to do with Eduardo. Whatever it is, it is "the secret" that as Evil Barbie said, will give Ed "absolute power" over Artemio. That's why Artie wants DNA to make sure Ed is dead.
I thought the original plan was for Erika and Fr/Ed to announce the engagement and then Er was to call it off for whatever reason.
On Venus's "knock-em-dead" dress, I was wondering what Esteve's New York parents would think when they meet Venus, especially if she wears one of the hat AND dress combos that she has worn in the show!
I'm so glad that my son is married with two children..... no more worries for me!!!!
Sandy in TN
It did tie that up, but was a huge letdown.
So many stubborn, misguided people in this TN. Sorry that our galan hasn't had a more rewarding role.
Loved the idea of Santi and Vlad hanging out waiting for their babies.
I don't think Aurora is going to live happily ever after with her Mommie Dearest. Her reaction was pretty lukewarm, IMO.
La Paloma
With Santi being the youngest, isn't it odd none of the older ones (who I am sure would know)ever mentioned it?? I'm especially referring to Camilho. He is so mean and spiteful, I would think he would definitely tell Santi he wasn't an Elizade and would torment him.
Ann-NYC
Really, Anibal was a jerk, Liliana was rebellious and mouthy and Camilo was abusive.
Santiago looks like he could be related to Fernanda but not the other 3.
Mis dos centavos....
Sandy in TN
This novela is driving me crazy...I'm more confused than ever!!! Ha! Ha!
Ann-NYC
Ann, If Santi was adopted I am SURE that his older brothers and sisters would tease him about it.
My younger sister has blue eyes and her nose is a different shape than the rest of us. My brothers and I used to tease her about "being adopted" (we were such sh!ts)! She'd run to mom crying. Until...one day my mom got fed up and smacked us all, then turned to my sister and told her "who in the hell in their right mind would adopt YOU?" That pretty much put an end to the teasing.
Jummy Hoffa, funny, that would be handy, they need a cuerpo or cadaver tomorrow for the big meeting with AB anyway. Salting it with Eduardo's ADN would be a piece of cake.
Sandy in TN
Now the question, why wouldn't Fernanda forgive him, he has sacrificed a lot for her sister Lili.
Amazing, Aurora is going to do what Aurora wants to do instead of what whichever person happens to be manipulating her at the time wants her to do.
xintperuvian, imagine how many beanies the viewers went through watching the soap that lasted 72 years.
Just looking at FC is enough for me, flawed or not, who isn't?
BTW, if I have the Spanish name thing right, it would be Ramon Juarez, Cruz would have been Soledad's maiden name.
Eduardo is Eduardo Juarez Cruz, papá 1st, mamá 2nd.
Second, I do think Santi is adopted.
And third, in a very small way I feel sorry for Barbie, not just for the way Art is treating her but also about her childhood. I wonder if Aurora will see Art.
And a belated thanks to jardinera for Friday's recap.
The only thing I can add to the speculation is...is it possible that Santi is a cousin of the other kids? Like maybe something happened to his parents and he was given to the Elizaldes to raise? And that maybe it happened early enough that Camilo really doesn't remember?
I agree with the poster on the TN logic that dictates that if Santi and Aurora are too closely related then she wouldn't be having a baby, therefore there must be some way that they aren't.
Judy and Variopinta, who is the author who wrote that book? Some tme ago, I read,Vecinos Distantes(part of my Spanish study provided by my tutor). It's a Spanish translation of a book written by Alan Riding originally in English. It's rather old but still relevant to this day. I learned a great deal from it. I'm pretty sure it's not the one you are talking about, but I'd like to read the one you are discussing.
Carlos
Carlos
ISBN o-679-72441-9
Judy, this book is really informative and eye-opening as well. I'm looking forward to reading the new parts as well as re-reading at least a portion of the old. When I read it before I was not nearly as accomplished in reading Spanish as I am now, and found parts rather difficult and tedious going, but well worth the effort.
Carlos
Carlos
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