Saturday, January 16, 2010
Sortilegio 01/15/10-- MJ Awakes: Looking Through the Looking Glass From the Inside Out
Capítulo 73
[I owe the making of this recap to the likes of Evan Williams Honey Liqueur, benadryl, ibuprofen, extra strenth cold capsules, and lots and lots of trees who gave their lives for my box and a half of Kleenex, without which I could not have made it through the show, let alone written the recap. --ed.]
As we take our nightly place in front of the magical screen and travel back to the anything but mundane realm of Merida, we note that Bruno is in his chalet and on the phone with Jorge the Horrible suggesting that they need to make a one-time ransom call, and to probably wait a week or so to throw the insurance agents off the scent as much as possible; Bruno does not forget to ask how Mary Jo is holding up. In the main house, at the Lombardo compound, the anti-kidnapping insurance negotiator, John Siegal, (forthwith known to me as Seagull, Jonathan L.) is telling Vicki that in order to be close to the phone, should any ransom call come in, he will sleep on their couch in the living room. Agent Seagull says he doesn't believe Alex is in any condition to negotiate with the kidnappers, so he will do it. Alex walks in on this discussion and says he in fact will take any and all ransom calls as is his duty and his right, whether Seagull likes how he behaves or not. Seagull wants somebody to talk sense into the guy as Alex goes upstairs to his bedroom and proceeds to have an immediate mental melt-down.
Downstairs in her office, Victoria and Fernando are commiserating over Alex's dodgy temperament and the family's current quandary. Fer mentions that Dr. Hernan told him about Maura's sister, Lisett, now suffering from Leukemia; Mau won't be able to be of much help with the authorities as a result. Vicki empathizes and then bemoans the fact that everyone's got problems. She blames herself for past acts and says this is her punishment from on high. "No sooner do we get over one misfortune than we have another one to deal with. It makes you wonder if you can handle it." Nando doesn't agree she's being punished for errors in the past. She says, then those in the present. He says if anything, their fling was meaningless and they were together only once and it came to nothing, so he doesn't feel it's that either. Anyway, as always, he'll be there to help her out forever and always if she should need him. They hug. (However, Viewerville is spared another priss-kiss.)
Zeke calls Alex from the kitchen to see to see if he wants anything to eat, but Alex is too distraught. Zeke tells Felipa and the cook that Alex isn't hungry. This starts a discussion about the thoughtlessness and arrogance of money grubbing kidnappers who think they are too smart to be caught but who will eventually be caught and humiliated in the press. Felipa thinks Bruno might have had a hand in this calamity, but Zeke disagrees. "Not everything is Bruno's fault, just like the business with the knife that Sr. Alex tried hiding was not his doing." They agree that Sr. Alex and the baby will have a hard time making it without Sra. Mary Jo around.
Upstairs Rosie notes that Tony won't take his formula because he misses his mother. Alex takes the baby to his/their bedroom and feeds him, then sleeps with him on the bed there.
A week passes and nothing's changed. Dr. Hernan comes to visit with Vicki. He complains that he and Fernando can only do so much with the business. Alex needs to get his head together and to return to work. There are things only he can handle that are waiting for him to take care of. Talk turns to Lis and Hernan says Maura's donating bone marrow for a transplant. He then mentions that he had thought Bruno might have had a hand in MJ's disappearance. Vicki admits she did also, but for his part, Bruno has been there all week and at the ready for anything they might want. (What? Suddenly they're ignorant about cell phones, texting, instant messaging and web-cams?) They share a close, compassionate moment of "Woe is we."
We teleport to the lesser side of town where Pedro is nigh to dysfunctional again over Mary Jo's kidnapping. We get another group diatribe about greedy, unfeeling kidnappers and their mothers who are confused and/or blinded out of love toward their children's malicious faults. (Victoria, call your office.) Meche says she'd throw the kid in jail without a second thought and would be mortified at the idea of having brought a monster like that into the world. Suddenly there's a knock at the door. It's the man who was so interested in selling Gabriel's artwork at the hotel. Chucho says not so fast. How much is he willing to fork out for the work, first? Sr. Davila says he's an avid fan of artistry and isn't known to steal from his artists. Guess that does it because they all come back into the room with scads of paintings and such that Gabe's accumulated over the years. Paula looks on and smiles a little enigmatically at him and the others.
Next day at Jorge's clinic Elena and he are watching Mary Jo asleep with wires attached all over her head. Elena says she's about to wake up finally. Jorge says it's about time, and when she does she will be just fine. They plan to take her back to the rancho the next day.
Meanwhile, Fer visits Alex and gives him a pep talk about getting his wits about him; being a fighter rather than a helpless wimp; and keeping his chin up because others are counting on him for their livelihood. Alex whines that he's a mess and there's not a minute that passes that he doesn't think about Mary Jo. (Seems kvetching is catching.) Mr. Macho is now a crumpled up, slobbering and pathetic crybaby. He's angry that he hasn't heard from the kidnappers yet. It's been a week after all. He's worried they brutally abused her in ways he doesn't even want to imagine and then killed her. Fernando says, whatever they did to her, she will withstand it and survive it all. They share a brotherly hug. Suddenly the phone rings and Alex grabs the receiver.
The kidnapper wants $5 million. As Alex begins yelling at the voice on the other side of the line, Seagull races in to direct the call. Alex totally ignores him. He screams at the "kidnapper" and tells him he wants to hear MJ's voice before he hands over $5 million. The line goes dead. They have nothing to go on. Fernando checks the caller ID on the phone and says it was from MJ's cell phone. (Ok. Track the cell and tower number and get the general area at least, right? Don't you all follow the cop shows from the States?) Seagull is fit to be tied. They'll have to wait for another call now.
Jorge calls Bruno to let him know how the ransom call went. Bruno's impressed the guy actually asked for $5 million, but Jorge says no biggie since he doesn't plan to collect. The money would be marked and he's not about to risk it. Besides, Sandra's inheritance is much larger anyway. Bruno asks again about Mary Jo's progress. He wants to visit. Jorge doesn't get it. Bruno reminds him he told them they were emotionally involved.
Downstairs at Casota de lobos locos de los Lombardo, Seagull complains to Vicki about how Alex screwed up the ransom call. She agrees he's not the right one to handle it if another call comes in. Alex appears at the breakfast table then, still in his P.J.'s. He agrees that he probably did screw up the call. They tell him nix the attitude or they will have to find a new negotiator.
Jorge is still on the phone with Bruno. Jorge says he didn't realize that he and MJ were involved; he only thought Bruno assisted to upset his brother by separating him from his wife. Bruno says no; he wants her for himself. Jorge says they'll have to discuss it later. He hangs up obviously thinking this adds another wrinkle in the plan--or maybe not.
Seagull and Fer take a walk out on the grounds. Nando wonders why the kidnapper didn't warn Alex not to go to the police. Seagull thinks either the guy isn't part of an organized criminal gang or Mary Jo is dead. Fernando is OMG! impactado to have to even consider it. Seagull says they'll simply have to wait for another call.
Back inside Hernan does a quick physical on Alex. His blood pressure's gone way too high for a man his age. He gives Alex a pill with a lecture about getting himself under control. Otherwise, he warns him, things will go to Hell in a hand basket for him and MJ. Vicki then asks him about Lisett's therapy. It's not had time to show much success, says Hernan, but next week the girl will get her transplant and that could saver her. Hernan asks about Raqhell. Vicki says she continues to drink and to wait for Useless Uli to come back to her. She adds that Roberto figures they guy left the country, but that Raqhell still won't give up hope.
Mary Jo finally comes to in Sandra's room at Goonyland Ranch. MJ is suffering from --duhn, duhn, duhn, duhnnn!-- a bout of amnesia. She immediately asks where she is and who Elena is. Elena feeds her the line that she's her daughter (true) and that her name is Sandra (not true). She doesn't remember anything or anyone. Jorge comes in with a syringe. MJ is scared and asks who he is. Jorge tells her he's her step-daddy. She's totally confused. He gives her a shot. She passes out. Elena says she doesn't think the treatment worked on her. Jorge says of course it will. They just have to be patient. Elena asks but what if it doesn't? Jorge simply insists that it will!
That night Porferio and Tio Abuelo Emiliano, are playing chess together. Porfi gripes that he thinks Jorge's been toying with him over Sandra because it's high time she showed up for that visit. Emiliano says not to get his panties in a wad 'cause more than likely, with his nasty disposition, Sandra may not be in the mood to visit him. Porfi asks Emiliano about his niece and nephew. Emiliano admits they haven't been in touch with him for a while, either. "See! They're all the same. Ingrates!"
Jorge shows up. The gate was open. Porfi accuses him of sneeking in. Jorge ignores the barbed insult and says that Elena's under the weather with a cold so she couldn't visit. Porfi snorts. He could give a fig. Emiliano offers him a drink but Jorge declines, saying he's got a problem patient to tend to now. Porfi sneers that his patients don't even pay him. "No! I'm the one that pays!" Obviously used to this kind of verbal abuse, Jorge stands straight as a pillar and says nothing. Emiliano takes up for him and says it's too expensive for these people to get neurology treatment. Therefore, what Jorge does is praiseworthy. Porfi sneers again. "Yes he's a bright shining light to everybody else but his family and me." [That's what I could gather from the phrase and "candil" = an oil lamp]. He changes the subject abruptly and asks where his granddaughter is. "--She'll be here next week." Porfi's delighted and tells Emiliano he's throwing a major party [charreado=public festivity] complete with a BBQ for her to celebrate.
Jorge says Sandra's still recuperating so she won't be up for a party like that, much less, able to attend one. Porfi says tough, he doing it anyway. He tells Emiliano that he'd like Fernando and Katia there also. He thinks it wouldn't be a bad idea for Fernando to come since the guy would make a decent husband for his granddaughter. Jorge says Sandra already has a boyfriend. Porfi laughs. "Who? Some bum who's after her inheritance?" Jorge says he's a serious prospect. Porfi sneers again. "Serious! Serious? Who's "serious" in this day and age? Ha!" He lets out with another major guffaw and slugs down another tequila.
Back home at Goonyland Ranch the next morning, Jorge tells Elena about the fiesta and BBQ her ex-FIL is planning for Sandra and says that Porfi's interested in marrying her to Fernando, Emiliano's nephew. "This will complicate matters because they know each other and he works for Alex Lombardo." She wants to know why he doesn't already have a plan B for this? He planned it and should have a solution for the problem. He says it's her fault for getting so chummy with that brat [Katia] to begin with. "Just fix the problem, Jorge!" More blame games from Jorge: "It was your brainy idea to say we could substitute her for her twin. Now look where we are and the mess we're in! I should never have paid attention to you!"
Elena gives as good as she gets under fire. "You accepted, didn't you? To save your clinic, because you are nothing and nobody without your experiments and that clinic! You've got an over-sized ego; you're a man with a superiority complex. Well, if you're so smart, you fix it! Period!" She leaves him cursing at shadows.
Upstairs, Elena looks in on M.J. The maid offers to sleep there during the night and let her know if anything changes.
At the Lombardo's later that night, Rosie the nurse takes Tony off the bed to feed him his pablum while Alex sleeps. Alex is dreaming of better bedtime stories he and Mary Jo starred in in the past. He suddenly wakes up and realizes Tony is gone. He races into his room and finds Rosie in there feeding Tony. Alex takes the baby and feeds him himself. (I'm wondering if the kid has suddenly lost his appetite having to smell ripe ol' papa like that.) Rosie apologizes for the scare and explains that she was only doing what they hired her to do.
The next morning Vicki comes in to speak to Alex and give him another major pep talk. He can't continue like this or it will be bad for the baby yada, yada..... Everybody's worried about him and Tony, yada, yada..... She tells him he's too strong to let this destroy him. Alex has a big cry on her shoulders as he tells her his strength was taken along with Mary Jo. However, after the big cry, Alex does return to work that same day.
Outside the house, Seagull tells Felipa and Vicki that his people have been checking with the neighbors and the realty company's employees. Bruno is skulking around the side of the house, listening. It seems a neighbor witnessed two dark trucks parked in the drive at the scene of the crime, but didn't get either the make or the license plates. He tells the two women that he believes the kidnapper isn't part of a criminal gang. He assures them that he and his people won't give up until they find them.
We return to Goonyland Ranch where Elena and MJ are in the garden clipping and snipping. MJ's got on some of Elena's larger stuff. No problem. They'll go shopping in Toluca or Mexico City later for clothes. Elena feeds her a line that M. J.'s lived there at the ranch since she was 5. M.J. of course doesn't remember any of it. She asks why she went to Spain. Elena answers that she wanted to. She was there studying for an art degree.
At the lab there's a call from Bruno. Bruno tells Jorge the insurance investigator hasn't stopped looking for MJ even though he thought he would have by now. Jorge says they won't find anything. Bruno says he's got an idea how to stop the investigation because if they don't, Alex is a regular bulldog [perro de presa] and won't give up until he's found something conclusive.
Later, back in the tiny clinic room, the attending doctor tells Jorge that Sandra should have either regained consciousness by now or gone brain-dead. She hasn't done either. Jorge tells him as long as she remains like this to have Nurse Ramirez tell the others that this area is restricted.
Meanwhile, upstairs in Sandra's bedroom, Elena shows MJ a photo album and they discuss her "father's" death from a heart-attack. She points out Porferio's picture. Yeah, her paternal grampa is a serious old guy, she admits, but he loves "Sandra" unconditionally and is eager to see her. "You are his heiress and will inherit a large fortune." M.J. puts down the book and frowns. "Money's not important to me." She complains then that she feels lost because she has no memory of who she is or where she is. Jorge appears in the doorway and says that's her fault. They sent her to school and sent her money. She spent it all on partying and drugs. Eventually she became addicted and finally OD'd. She has seriously injured her brain. Yes, she has brain injuries and that's why now she cannot remember anything of her past. Oh, and BTW, did he mention that "IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!"
Mary Jo's subconscious rebels and she screams back that it's not true. It's impossible! Jorge lights into her again. "You are a pathetic wretch! A drug addict! We brought you back here at great expense. This is the price you paid for your perversities!" She continues to scream and to cry in protest. (This may be terribly cathartic for George, but it isn't exactly endearing the" new and improved" Sandra to him or her new lifestyle.)
Elena signals for Jorge to ix-nay the ecture-lay already and to reel it in a bit. He objects at the top of his lungs and screams into MJ's ear that it's time she put her feet on the ground and recognized how much this foolishness cost them and her so that she doesn't repeat it. (No way they're gonna turn that frown upside down.) He orders Elena then to give her a tranquilizer and leaves as Viewerville asks itself if the look in Elena's eye means she might have read "The Burning Bed" and is a believer.)
That night at dinner, Jorge asks if Elena Thinks M.J. is ready [presumably for the ruse]. Elena is certain she is and says they can't go putting off the meeting any longer, anyway. MJ/Sandra comes down to eat. Jorge remarks she's gotten new clothes and Elena says, yes, she chose them herself. (They're definitely not Sandra's style and definitely an improvement.) Jorge explains she won't be given wine at dinner because it would interfere with the medicine; but also, they want to avoid a relapse into addiction. M.J./Sandra agrees. He mentions that she'll be visiting her grandfather and to be careful to watch her mouth around him because he doesn't know about her dicey past. Mary Jo has a quick answer for that one. "Well, fine, because I don't either." Jorge pounces on her and MJ growls. Elena tries to be kind and explains they've been hiding her condition from the old guy because he's sickly and they didn't want to cause him to get worse over it.M.J. agrees to stick with the story. Jorge yells at her that she'd better. [Más te vale] Mary Jo/new Sandra jumps up from the table and races off. She's obviously had enough of the guy.
Elena jumps up then and growls back at Horrible George between clamped teeth and pursed lips. "Don't talk to her that way!" (Anyone blame Sandra for resorting to quaaludes after a few rounds with George?) Horrible Jorge insists it's necessary to keep her under control by "maintaining a strong hand"; otherwise they risk losing it all.
Across the way, Tio Abuelo Emiliano calls Nando up to invite him and Katia to the BBQ. He mentions that among other things Porferio's gotten it into his head that Fernando would make a perfect husband for Sandra. Porferio wants Fernando to meet her. Ruh-Roh! Marriage to a punked-out, barely 20-something druggie! Somebody who is 180 degrees out from his ideal staid and starchy Victoria. Does it get any better than this?
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Thanks for the recap Jardinera. Hope you're feeling better. Any wonder why Sandra became addicted to drugs living around that monster. I couldn't believe how evil Jorge spoke to MJ. If he thinks this plan is going to work by talking to her that way he's got another thought. Looked as though some of Elena's motherly instincts kicked in but not enough to tell MJ the truth. Getting her hands on the money is more important. She and Pedro both have the same habit of telling big whoppers. Pedro told MJ and Paula that their mother is dead when she actually left him. Elena tells MJ that her father is dead. I'm really ready for this part of the story to be over like yesterday LOL. Alex was truly a mess but at least he did go back to work instead of staying cooped up in the room unshowered and unshaven. I hope Fernando starts putting two and two together about the revealation that Sandra has returned right when MJ disappears. Come on Fer. Just put the links together.
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: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 4:55:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 4:55:00 PM EST
Is it possible to even contemplate that as MJ recovers her memory she will remember Bruno as her husband?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 4:55:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 4:55:00 PM EST
Anon 4:55, I hope not. That would be a big yuck if she does recover that part of her memory. According to the avances, Pedro starts wooing her. It's like how the story began when he pretended to be Alex to woo her.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:01:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:01:00 PM EST
OMG big typo. It's Bruno not Pedro. That's an even bigger yuck.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:03:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:03:00 PM EST
Thanks for the great recap Jardinera and hope you are feeling much better.
I just have to say that not only is Wm.Levy a great lover but he also was terrific acting grief stricken.
Ann-NYC
I just have to say that not only is Wm.Levy a great lover but he also was terrific acting grief stricken.
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:07:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:07:00 PM EST
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I know how you're feeling cause I just recovered from a severe cold myself.
I had a laugh when it didn't take much convincing for Elena to let the maid stay with Sandra.
I think MJ aroused some matenal feelings from Elena however minuscule that is when Jorge started his tirade.
LV
I had a laugh when it didn't take much convincing for Elena to let the maid stay with Sandra.
I think MJ aroused some matenal feelings from Elena however minuscule that is when Jorge started his tirade.
LV
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:31:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 5:31:00 PM EST
Jardinera:
Thanks you for the valiant effort to do the recap. I am so sorry you are feeling unwell. I just got over the 'flu and it was nasty. Take care of yourself, get lots of rest and lots of love.
I felt so sad for Alex upon watching today's episode. Do you think this will finally be the thing that keeps Alex from flirting? Levy is doing a nice job playing deep grief. I would not want to be Maura when Alex discovers her involvement in the plot.
How classic of Victoria to make the situation all about her.The situation is a punishment to Victoria? Huh? Isn't MJ suffering more than Vicki? And baby Tony? And Alex? Oh, well, the narcesstic lens is the only one Victoria has. Woe is me...
Thanks you for the valiant effort to do the recap. I am so sorry you are feeling unwell. I just got over the 'flu and it was nasty. Take care of yourself, get lots of rest and lots of love.
I felt so sad for Alex upon watching today's episode. Do you think this will finally be the thing that keeps Alex from flirting? Levy is doing a nice job playing deep grief. I would not want to be Maura when Alex discovers her involvement in the plot.
How classic of Victoria to make the situation all about her.The situation is a punishment to Victoria? Huh? Isn't MJ suffering more than Vicki? And baby Tony? And Alex? Oh, well, the narcesstic lens is the only one Victoria has. Woe is me...
All:
My apologies for the poor spelling. My fingers are not walking to the correct keys on my laptop.
The word that I intended to type was "narcissistic".
My apologies for the poor spelling. My fingers are not walking to the correct keys on my laptop.
The word that I intended to type was "narcissistic".
Elna June you had only one misspelling. I couldn't believe I put my comment thru like it was. Oh, well...
Ann-NYC
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:02:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:02:00 PM EST
Jardinera thanks so much for the recap and hope you get better soon.
Elna June this why i really can't take Vicki most of the time everything is about her narcissistic self.
Love the round table discussion at Pedro's about mother's blind loce for their horrible and malicious children the raised.
From the previews on Monday Bruno is trying to court MJ and she is not having it she was moving away from out fear.
I hope Ferdumbo invites Alex to the BBQ.
Elna June this why i really can't take Vicki most of the time everything is about her narcissistic self.
Love the round table discussion at Pedro's about mother's blind loce for their horrible and malicious children the raised.
From the previews on Monday Bruno is trying to court MJ and she is not having it she was moving away from out fear.
I hope Ferdumbo invites Alex to the BBQ.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:39:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:39:00 PM EST
Fantastic, Jardinera!
Good grief, Alex is a wreck. How long is this gonna go on? I hope by Monday it's done because it is sad and this side of Alex is way too weak. Get a grip, hombre! He needs to go back to detective mode.
I hope MJ doesn't believe she is Bruno's wife. Ugh. Really hating this Jorge more than I hate Bruno. He's so twisted and mean.
Did you guys sense any care for MJ fron Elena? I thought I sensed just a little, but maybe it's just part of her plan to be the nice mom.
Good grief, Alex is a wreck. How long is this gonna go on? I hope by Monday it's done because it is sad and this side of Alex is way too weak. Get a grip, hombre! He needs to go back to detective mode.
I hope MJ doesn't believe she is Bruno's wife. Ugh. Really hating this Jorge more than I hate Bruno. He's so twisted and mean.
Did you guys sense any care for MJ fron Elena? I thought I sensed just a little, but maybe it's just part of her plan to be the nice mom.
Btw, I forgot to compliment WL on his performance. Excellent! Especially when he thought Tony got kidnapped. Really felt his pain.
Well, look at it from Elena's point of view:
She kept Sandra, who was punked out, druggie, tattooed, disrespectful party girl who lays about Spain getting her groove on all the time*.
Then she re-discovers MJ, who is clean, polite, not tattooed, simple, not drugged out, not a party girl and a new mom devoted to home and family.
Which one would you rather have as a daughter?
*I don't think Sandra is a bad person at all. With family like Elena, Jorge and Porfiro no wonder the girl took to drugs and ran away to Spain.
One thing though, and maybe somebody at the party will pick up on this: Maria Jose does NOT have Sandra's Spanish accent. If Porfiro has heard Sandra speaking with a Spanish accent and now "Sandra" doesn't have a Spanish accent.....UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
She kept Sandra, who was punked out, druggie, tattooed, disrespectful party girl who lays about Spain getting her groove on all the time*.
Then she re-discovers MJ, who is clean, polite, not tattooed, simple, not drugged out, not a party girl and a new mom devoted to home and family.
Which one would you rather have as a daughter?
*I don't think Sandra is a bad person at all. With family like Elena, Jorge and Porfiro no wonder the girl took to drugs and ran away to Spain.
One thing though, and maybe somebody at the party will pick up on this: Maria Jose does NOT have Sandra's Spanish accent. If Porfiro has heard Sandra speaking with a Spanish accent and now "Sandra" doesn't have a Spanish accent.....UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:54:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 6:54:00 PM EST
Jardinera - Thank you for the recap in spite of suffering some nasty crud. You didn't miss a beat on the recap or the snark. ;o) I hope you get better soon. Too bad you can't give it to Bruno.
Alex's angst is just not credible for me while he's wearing silk pajamas. I just couldn't muster up the sympathy... All I could think about is 'how he does he not slide right out of bed with the silk 'jammies on those satin sheets?' Seriously bad mental picture; sort of comical; very distracting.
Alex's angst is just not credible for me while he's wearing silk pajamas. I just couldn't muster up the sympathy... All I could think about is 'how he does he not slide right out of bed with the silk 'jammies on those satin sheets?' Seriously bad mental picture; sort of comical; very distracting.
Will comment later on the episode, but Elna June and Cielo de Levy I would LOVE a lunch or dinner in the Bay Area to dish telenovelas. As I've posted before, I live in Palo Alto. I didn't read the comments of Wednesday and Thursday until this afternoon because I hadn't watched the episodes. Real life again interfered with my TN life!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:05:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:05:00 PM EST
When Bruno suggested to Dr.Demented that they have to plan something else he did not expect John Segal to go this long with the search. This proves beyond a shadow of doubt what a first class idiot Bruno is.
One he should know how determine Alex is about finding the truth.
Two also how much Alex loves MJ and how much she means to him.
Three the idiot just had a hand in kidnapping a brand new mother.
Whatever plot he and Dr.Demented are cooking up together i hope it backfires on both of the.
That's why he has earn the nickname Wily E. Bruno.
Did anyone else have a deja vu moment when Vicki was trying to console Alex now as a adult.
She did the same thing to little Alex as a boy, both times as result of Bruno's hatred for him.
One he should know how determine Alex is about finding the truth.
Two also how much Alex loves MJ and how much she means to him.
Three the idiot just had a hand in kidnapping a brand new mother.
Whatever plot he and Dr.Demented are cooking up together i hope it backfires on both of the.
That's why he has earn the nickname Wily E. Bruno.
Did anyone else have a deja vu moment when Vicki was trying to console Alex now as a adult.
She did the same thing to little Alex as a boy, both times as result of Bruno's hatred for him.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:05:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:05:00 PM EST
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I also hope you get well soon. I've been MIA b/c of traveling and happy to be back reading your recap in a timely fashion.
ITA with Pirate Babe in that Sandra's drug use became perfectly clear seeing Jorge in action. I am so looking forward to he and Bruno killing each other (a guess not a spoiler). They each need to send one another to Hades.
I think the writers may be showing Elena being somewhat human with her defending MJ/Sandra. I like Jardinera' reference to the Burning Bed. I'm still on the fence as to whether she can be redeemed.
Since we don't have many episodes left, Fer will be able to use his brain and when he sees MJ/Sandra flags and sirens should be going at full force. He saw the picture of Sandra and without a dye join and hair weave that can't be Sandra. OK that last part most men would be clueless about but during the last weeks perhaps Fer will gain a superhuman brain.
ITA with Pirate Babe in that Sandra's drug use became perfectly clear seeing Jorge in action. I am so looking forward to he and Bruno killing each other (a guess not a spoiler). They each need to send one another to Hades.
I think the writers may be showing Elena being somewhat human with her defending MJ/Sandra. I like Jardinera' reference to the Burning Bed. I'm still on the fence as to whether she can be redeemed.
Since we don't have many episodes left, Fer will be able to use his brain and when he sees MJ/Sandra flags and sirens should be going at full force. He saw the picture of Sandra and without a dye join and hair weave that can't be Sandra. OK that last part most men would be clueless about but during the last weeks perhaps Fer will gain a superhuman brain.
Hell no, no way can Elena ever be redeemed that over flowing ready to bust out her blouse hiefer has no compassion whatsoever for her children.
Sandra was only unfortunate to be stuck with her because she was too sick to go with Pedro, MJ and Paula.
This heifer uses her children for as long as it benefits her point blank. Poor Sandra stuck with a cold Beyatch of a mother and this horrible unfeeling step father.
I think the only love she ever got was from her her second first step father who she thought was her father and her grandfather.
Sent away to Spain probably because it was too much of a inconvenience for Elena to take care of her. We all saw how quickly when the maid offered to stay up over night to watch MJ she accepted the offer.
I hope Dr. Jorge has a syringe for her neck too.Horrible,Horrible woman.
Sandra was only unfortunate to be stuck with her because she was too sick to go with Pedro, MJ and Paula.
This heifer uses her children for as long as it benefits her point blank. Poor Sandra stuck with a cold Beyatch of a mother and this horrible unfeeling step father.
I think the only love she ever got was from her her second first step father who she thought was her father and her grandfather.
Sent away to Spain probably because it was too much of a inconvenience for Elena to take care of her. We all saw how quickly when the maid offered to stay up over night to watch MJ she accepted the offer.
I hope Dr. Jorge has a syringe for her neck too.Horrible,Horrible woman.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:28:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:28:00 PM EST
Anon, I agree that Sandra's environment led her to drugs and all the other stuff she got into. I have a lot of sympathy for her.
Elena, even if she has some concern for MJ, is not worthy of forgiveness even if she was redeemed. She is cold and like everyone said, she uses her children for her own purposes.
Novelera, I am dying to have lunch with you guys, but I'm still on the fence about getting permission from the parents.
Karen, we can only hope Fernando will recognize MJ.
Doris: All I could think about is 'how he does he not slide right out of bed with the silk 'jammies on those satin sheets?'
LOL, I have to admit, putting him in normal pants, shirtless would have been better in the sense that I would find him hotter in his depression beard if he weren't wearing silk pjs. But then again, maybe it's to show how frustrated and broken up he is. maybe we're supposed to see that he doesn't care to look his best if MJ is absent.
Elena, even if she has some concern for MJ, is not worthy of forgiveness even if she was redeemed. She is cold and like everyone said, she uses her children for her own purposes.
Novelera, I am dying to have lunch with you guys, but I'm still on the fence about getting permission from the parents.
Karen, we can only hope Fernando will recognize MJ.
Doris: All I could think about is 'how he does he not slide right out of bed with the silk 'jammies on those satin sheets?'
LOL, I have to admit, putting him in normal pants, shirtless would have been better in the sense that I would find him hotter in his depression beard if he weren't wearing silk pjs. But then again, maybe it's to show how frustrated and broken up he is. maybe we're supposed to see that he doesn't care to look his best if MJ is absent.
Cielo de Levy silk PJ's or not disheveled heavily bearded that man is still looks damn good to me.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:53:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:53:00 PM EST
oh, but I (respectfully) beg to differ, re Alex in silk pjs. it don't matter much what he wears or doesn't. he emotes just as well. pobrecito!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:56:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:56:00 PM EST
Anon Sat Jan 16, 07:53:00 PM EST - por supuesto que si!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:58:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 7:58:00 PM EST
Anon, looks good to me always as well, but I think the look creates a depressing mood. Especially the beard. Well maybe because I can see Levy as a metrosexual kinda guy who's very particular about how he appears. It's just a lil out of the ordinary for him to be ungroomed.
Cielo de Levy he had to look like that because it's what this scene called for him to be depressed over losing MJ and not up to date on his grooming.
Remember he had a thick beard and was a little disheveled on Survivor's Island with Ferdumbo and Charlie.
The only difference was he wasn't prancing around in silk PJ's and he was shirtless and either had his pants legs rolled up or cut off.
We were too distracted by this state of undress i guess to focus on his beard and facial hair.
Remember he had a thick beard and was a little disheveled on Survivor's Island with Ferdumbo and Charlie.
The only difference was he wasn't prancing around in silk PJ's and he was shirtless and either had his pants legs rolled up or cut off.
We were too distracted by this state of undress i guess to focus on his beard and facial hair.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 8:11:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 8:11:00 PM EST
Anon, you're right about the island scene. LOL, I was definetely distracted by his clothes-less nature.
OT-my birthday is Monday and I sense a surprise party, which'll be fun, but that probably means I'll be missing the show and be late with the comments. I'll miss you guys!
Many thanks, Jardinera, for the terrific recap. I'm amazed--and grateful--that you could do such a great job while feeling so sick.
Am I the only person here who wasn't impressed with William Levy's endless, over-the-top grief?
Also, I've never been struck by the supposed similarity in appearance between Sandra and MJ. Everyone in the telenovela sees them as identical, but they don't look all that alike to me. Oh well, too bad I'm not in the TN--I'd clear up MJ's identity very quickly! :-)
Am I the only person here who wasn't impressed with William Levy's endless, over-the-top grief?
Also, I've never been struck by the supposed similarity in appearance between Sandra and MJ. Everyone in the telenovela sees them as identical, but they don't look all that alike to me. Oh well, too bad I'm not in the TN--I'd clear up MJ's identity very quickly! :-)
Just a comment on kidnapping in Mexico.
A comment on kidnapping in Mexico.
I have a friend who moved here as a teenager. Her father has ranches he leases out in Mexico. They do not feel it is safe to go and check on them as the people who live there will think they have money since they live in the US and will kidnap them for ransom. This is a fanmily of very modest means.
A comment on kidnapping in Mexico.
I have a friend who moved here as a teenager. Her father has ranches he leases out in Mexico. They do not feel it is safe to go and check on them as the people who live there will think they have money since they live in the US and will kidnap them for ransom. This is a fanmily of very modest means.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:56:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:56:00 PM EST
Happy Birthday Cielo de Levy you'll be 19 years right enjoy and have a good time.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:05:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:05:00 PM EST
Jardinera, so sorry you have the winter bug. You jeered my son up, who has the same thing, after he read your very funny prologue. (He also wants to try some of your Evan Williams Honey liqueur)!
These episodes are sure turning into total downers. Not a positive plot line in the bunch.(I'm not counting Gabriel's art dealer-not important enough at this point). Hopefully that won't last long.
Good to see Alex pull himself out of the misery well he was drowning in. As bad as you feel for him, it seemed just slightly out of character that he wouldn't come out fighting at some point to get his woman back. Now if we can get Fer to start putting those brain waves of his to work and tell Alex want he suspects, we can see our fearless hero moving again.
So Bruno sees his opening to get MJ back, disguise himself as the boyfriend that Dr. Demento aluded to? MJ, please somewhere in your brain cells, you must remember that this guy is not the real deal. Hopefully they take a walk to the stables and the horses will go ballistic at the sight of Bruno and kick some sense into her while they're at it. And what else could our dear evil twin #1 have up his sleeve? He says he has a way to get Alex off the trail. The only way would be to give some proof of MJ being dead, kill off Sandra and call her MJ, or just have Sandra instead of MJ dropped somewhere as a return for the ransom. Viewerville knows that wouldn't work eventually...or at least it shouldn't since wasn't sandra full of tattoos if I remember right. My head hurts just trying to think like Bruno. How does he do it?
The one good thing about this episode is we were blessed with no Katia or Raquel. Sure that won't last long, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
I agree with the others who hope this raps up soon. don't want this part of the plot to go all the way to the end of the series. Has to be better things to come before the end.
daisynjay
These episodes are sure turning into total downers. Not a positive plot line in the bunch.(I'm not counting Gabriel's art dealer-not important enough at this point). Hopefully that won't last long.
Good to see Alex pull himself out of the misery well he was drowning in. As bad as you feel for him, it seemed just slightly out of character that he wouldn't come out fighting at some point to get his woman back. Now if we can get Fer to start putting those brain waves of his to work and tell Alex want he suspects, we can see our fearless hero moving again.
So Bruno sees his opening to get MJ back, disguise himself as the boyfriend that Dr. Demento aluded to? MJ, please somewhere in your brain cells, you must remember that this guy is not the real deal. Hopefully they take a walk to the stables and the horses will go ballistic at the sight of Bruno and kick some sense into her while they're at it. And what else could our dear evil twin #1 have up his sleeve? He says he has a way to get Alex off the trail. The only way would be to give some proof of MJ being dead, kill off Sandra and call her MJ, or just have Sandra instead of MJ dropped somewhere as a return for the ransom. Viewerville knows that wouldn't work eventually...or at least it shouldn't since wasn't sandra full of tattoos if I remember right. My head hurts just trying to think like Bruno. How does he do it?
The one good thing about this episode is we were blessed with no Katia or Raquel. Sure that won't last long, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
I agree with the others who hope this raps up soon. don't want this part of the plot to go all the way to the end of the series. Has to be better things to come before the end.
daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:08:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:08:00 PM EST
newtothis - I think kidnapping is such an 'everyday' event south of our border, that the discussions in the Lombardo kitchen and Meche's table were PSAs of a sort. That's how they seemed to me.
Juanita - I was not impressed, either, and posted earlier about that. The silk pajamas ruined it for me and the satin sheets. Had he worn a ratty old tee shirt and pajama bottoms (or boxers (o; ) and looked more like 'real people,' I would have felt his pain.
Ale's beard grew faster in the past couple days than his beard & hair did during the four-month-long stint on the island. Que the ????
Bruno definitely has scarf issues. Last night's was awful. One can only hope he'll accidentally strangle himself with it one day soon. Bruno must die.
CielodeLevy - Happy Birthday!
Oh, to be 19 again. Oh, to be 49 again ..... (Ack!)
Juanita - I was not impressed, either, and posted earlier about that. The silk pajamas ruined it for me and the satin sheets. Had he worn a ratty old tee shirt and pajama bottoms (or boxers (o; ) and looked more like 'real people,' I would have felt his pain.
Ale's beard grew faster in the past couple days than his beard & hair did during the four-month-long stint on the island. Que the ????
Bruno definitely has scarf issues. Last night's was awful. One can only hope he'll accidentally strangle himself with it one day soon. Bruno must die.
CielodeLevy - Happy Birthday!
Oh, to be 19 again. Oh, to be 49 again ..... (Ack!)
Daisynjay i am wondering what the heck is Bruno's plot to throw them off their scent.If they do switch the twins like you suggested Sandra had tattoos all over her body.
Let's not to forget the butchered bleached blonde hair how in the world would they pull this switch off.
Doris i am ROFL with the growth of how fast Alex's beard grew compared to his survivor island beard that should have been like Wolfman's Jacks when he was saved.
As for Bruno die by one his silly scarfs is too good for him but laughing from this image also.
Let's not to forget the butchered bleached blonde hair how in the world would they pull this switch off.
Doris i am ROFL with the growth of how fast Alex's beard grew compared to his survivor island beard that should have been like Wolfman's Jacks when he was saved.
As for Bruno die by one his silly scarfs is too good for him but laughing from this image also.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:36:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 11:36:00 PM EST
OT/OT/OT
Cielo:
Happy birthday to you! My birthday was today and we discovered that several of over on the Gancho board are Capricorns.
On meeting you and Novelera and any other Northern California "locals"—
I think it sounds grand. Cielo, shall I send your Mother my CV so she can have some ease about the idea of her child meeting these folks from over the internet? I don't blame her for being cautious!
I am sure we would agree to meet in a restaurant or something public. I'll see if I can think of a place central to all of us. That probably means San Francisco. Thinking...
Cielo:
Happy birthday to you! My birthday was today and we discovered that several of over on the Gancho board are Capricorns.
On meeting you and Novelera and any other Northern California "locals"—
I think it sounds grand. Cielo, shall I send your Mother my CV so she can have some ease about the idea of her child meeting these folks from over the internet? I don't blame her for being cautious!
I am sure we would agree to meet in a restaurant or something public. I'll see if I can think of a place central to all of us. That probably means San Francisco. Thinking...
Happy belated birthday, Elna! I'm still working on mom, but unfortunately, I don't think there is too much of a chance anything will make her approve.
Sorry to hear you were ill, but thanks for carrying on. Fantastic recap. So much better recap than some healthy folks. You have a good way of providing the texture and nuances of what was spoken without doing a line by line translation. Your recaps plus the actor's body language and music soundtrack make the TN make sense. thank you.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:53:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:53:00 AM EST
Hi Jardinera. Oh my, so sorry that you caught your husband's cold (wasn't he the one flinging kleenex all over the place last week?). Your remedy sounds interesting though. My dad used to fix us hot lemonade in a big mug with some Jack Daniels thrown in (he's from Tenn.)(when we were in college) and suddenly the world seemed a warmer friendlier place.
You still managed to turn out a sparkling, well-crafted recap. Loved the "Victoria, call your office" and like Variopinta, "charreado" was a new word for me. Also thought your translation of the conversation with "candil" was clever. Somehow all those marvelous brain cells were still firing, amiga. Feel better soon.
Cielo de Levy. Happy Birthday! As a mom (though my youngest is almost 30), I would probably also nix the idea. A woman becomes a tigress from the moment she conceives. Her job is to protect her young and your mom, of course, is still in full maternal mode. Even when my mom was senile and in a nursing home in another city, she would still fret about my 31/2 hour late at night drive back to my home. As weak and confused as she was, she still worried about me and tried to protect me by having me wait until morning.
Be glad you have a loving mom and not some Elena! (That being said, of course Novelera and Elna June would be wonderful to meet. How about taking Mom along? That way she'll know what great gals they are.)
You still managed to turn out a sparkling, well-crafted recap. Loved the "Victoria, call your office" and like Variopinta, "charreado" was a new word for me. Also thought your translation of the conversation with "candil" was clever. Somehow all those marvelous brain cells were still firing, amiga. Feel better soon.
Cielo de Levy. Happy Birthday! As a mom (though my youngest is almost 30), I would probably also nix the idea. A woman becomes a tigress from the moment she conceives. Her job is to protect her young and your mom, of course, is still in full maternal mode. Even when my mom was senile and in a nursing home in another city, she would still fret about my 31/2 hour late at night drive back to my home. As weak and confused as she was, she still worried about me and tried to protect me by having me wait until morning.
Be glad you have a loving mom and not some Elena! (That being said, of course Novelera and Elna June would be wonderful to meet. How about taking Mom along? That way she'll know what great gals they are.)
Great recap! And under adverse circumstances, no less! I tried watching but this was just excruciating. I'm unhappy I have to watch the farce - and recap it - on Monday! Elena is so awful, how could she let this go on? Bruno has been the greatest villain. Doctor Horrible is also good.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 8:21:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 8:21:00 AM EST
Gracias, Judy! And ITA, mom cares, unlike Elena. I would take her along, but she would've suggested that to me if she found it appropriate. Mom's been having some blood problems for a few months (nothing too serious), and her BP stays pretty high, so for now I'll have to pass. It's cool, Elna and Novelera give me a couple more years, and ya'll have a fun time.
Hi, guys~ Naw, I couldn't desert the Caray gang. The episodio this time was too campy and way over the top. Writing about it was much more distracting and fun an exercise than watching it though. I cannot imagine the next five -six weeks jumping back between Mengele Manor and Casa Alejandro while Fernando seems never to note that Punk Sis looks totally different than MJ and accepts her totally as Sandra, then falls in love with her..... Jes sayin', but it sure seems that is where all this silliness is headed.
Cielo and Elna June:
HAPPY BIrTHDAY!! Great people born these days. (My late dad's birthday was the 19th.) Hope your next year is a healthy, happy, joyous 365 days.
daisynjay
HAPPY BIrTHDAY!! Great people born these days. (My late dad's birthday was the 19th.) Hope your next year is a healthy, happy, joyous 365 days.
daisynjay
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 9:48:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 9:48:00 AM EST
Welcome LV and newtothis.
Happy Birthday to the BDay bunch.
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I can better relate to boxers and a grubby beard than silk PJ's myself. Makes you wonder who's running costuming/wardrobe at times and why the actors never complain. In fact, I meant to mention the silly BoyScout tie/scarf and white shirt in opening scenes Bruno was wearing. WHO DRESSES THESE MEN?
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Alex's over the top grief was overdone IMHO also. Again, if the scene were done in boxers, I could hold my nose and enjoy this fruit of the loom production with a bit more enthusiasm and blind belief.
Also, if the twins weren't part of the original screenplay I say there must have been a reason.
Happy Birthday to the BDay bunch.
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I can better relate to boxers and a grubby beard than silk PJ's myself. Makes you wonder who's running costuming/wardrobe at times and why the actors never complain. In fact, I meant to mention the silly BoyScout tie/scarf and white shirt in opening scenes Bruno was wearing. WHO DRESSES THESE MEN?
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Alex's over the top grief was overdone IMHO also. Again, if the scene were done in boxers, I could hold my nose and enjoy this fruit of the loom production with a bit more enthusiasm and blind belief.
Also, if the twins weren't part of the original screenplay I say there must have been a reason.
Happy Birthday Elna June i hope you enjoyed it.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 10:09:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 10:09:00 AM EST
Happy Birthday to Elena and get well wishes to Jardinera.
First, I am not very impressed by William Levy's acting, though I have to admit that at last, after his meltdown, I believe he really loves MJ. Call me dense, but I have not bought the relationship between these two very beautiful people.
I am loving these episodes to see Azela Robinson as the floozy, boozy wife right out of Eugene O'Neill. She is great even as this nasty character with the dumpy yet revealing wardrobe.
And Jackie B got to show more acting chops the other night than in any moment as MJ. I like this actress and have felt like she hasn't had enough to do as MJ. At least as memory-less MJ, she gets to show a little spunk.
Finally, have so many people ever suffered from alta presion in one novela in your memory? Hernan treats all deseases, great and small, but has that blood pressure guage out on every visit to the Casa Alejandro.
Still, I'll miss this one while hoping that Carla goes back to novelas de epoca.
First, I am not very impressed by William Levy's acting, though I have to admit that at last, after his meltdown, I believe he really loves MJ. Call me dense, but I have not bought the relationship between these two very beautiful people.
I am loving these episodes to see Azela Robinson as the floozy, boozy wife right out of Eugene O'Neill. She is great even as this nasty character with the dumpy yet revealing wardrobe.
And Jackie B got to show more acting chops the other night than in any moment as MJ. I like this actress and have felt like she hasn't had enough to do as MJ. At least as memory-less MJ, she gets to show a little spunk.
Finally, have so many people ever suffered from alta presion in one novela in your memory? Hernan treats all deseases, great and small, but has that blood pressure guage out on every visit to the Casa Alejandro.
Still, I'll miss this one while hoping that Carla goes back to novelas de epoca.
Jardineria, thanks for the information packed recap done under real duress. Hope you are feeling much better today. I, like JudyB, loved the well crafted title. Are you a gardner? The Elena “ranch” is so beautiful. It is almost worth going through this silly kidnapping plot to get to see it...
Happy Birthday both Cielo and EJ. Cielo, you are such a sweet daughter, I’m glad you’re with us. My son would have gone on with his plans and told me later! He’s a grown man with children of his own, so now he gets to play the worry game!!!
We talk so much about redemption here. In my way of thinking, Vicky has totally redeemed herself. She has come through on every level, at Lombardo Construction, with MJ and little Tony, steadfastness for Alex, standing up to Bruno, trying to help Raquel and on and on. Also, important for us gals, she has many times accepted responsibility for her role in the problems with the twins and anguished deeply over it. Also, kudos to Fernando, during the kidnapping, he has really been there for his friend Alex and the Lombardos, they need him. The council he gave Alex (yes, Doris those were silk PJs!) was excellent. I wish him and Vicky the best. After all, there are a lot of couples that don’t have the appearance of Hollywood chemistry but have been happy in every way for years!
I’m glad that MJ, even while drugged (?) is resisting some of the stuff that Elena and Jorge are telling her and even better, she seems to suspect Bruno in the advances. Elena and Jorge are playing good cop, bad cop whether they realize it or not, and that is a strong psychological technique I hear (Yes, cop shows!). MJ is exerting her will.....good! In speaking of Bruno, a hot pink sweater with plunging v neckline...wow. Mrs. 5ft did you see that? I know you are into fashion. For once, I wish he had worn one of his scarves.
I’m so glad Gabriel is selling his artwork. He was beaming and Paula, for the first time, seemed to respect him!! That poor household needs something positive to happen. Looks like Pedro has a head for business or at least organization, so maybe together they can stop being big MILLSTONES! There aren’t many joyful moments in this TN and that scene was one, we need to relish it.
Happy Birthday both Cielo and EJ. Cielo, you are such a sweet daughter, I’m glad you’re with us. My son would have gone on with his plans and told me later! He’s a grown man with children of his own, so now he gets to play the worry game!!!
We talk so much about redemption here. In my way of thinking, Vicky has totally redeemed herself. She has come through on every level, at Lombardo Construction, with MJ and little Tony, steadfastness for Alex, standing up to Bruno, trying to help Raquel and on and on. Also, important for us gals, she has many times accepted responsibility for her role in the problems with the twins and anguished deeply over it. Also, kudos to Fernando, during the kidnapping, he has really been there for his friend Alex and the Lombardos, they need him. The council he gave Alex (yes, Doris those were silk PJs!) was excellent. I wish him and Vicky the best. After all, there are a lot of couples that don’t have the appearance of Hollywood chemistry but have been happy in every way for years!
I’m glad that MJ, even while drugged (?) is resisting some of the stuff that Elena and Jorge are telling her and even better, she seems to suspect Bruno in the advances. Elena and Jorge are playing good cop, bad cop whether they realize it or not, and that is a strong psychological technique I hear (Yes, cop shows!). MJ is exerting her will.....good! In speaking of Bruno, a hot pink sweater with plunging v neckline...wow. Mrs. 5ft did you see that? I know you are into fashion. For once, I wish he had worn one of his scarves.
I’m so glad Gabriel is selling his artwork. He was beaming and Paula, for the first time, seemed to respect him!! That poor household needs something positive to happen. Looks like Pedro has a head for business or at least organization, so maybe together they can stop being big MILLSTONES! There aren’t many joyful moments in this TN and that scene was one, we need to relish it.
Jardinera, I'm so sorry that you're sick. If you hadn't told us , I certainly wouldn't have noticed. I remember trying to recap when I had the flu back in November and found myself much less forgiving and tolerant of the usual silliness of some of our characters a scenes I perceived as annoying or worse, boring. When our Sylvia was sick,I prescribed a toddy for her but you seem to have the medications well in hand.
Thanks for visiting my recap last Tue. Your praise was very warm, generous, and kind. You of course know that you are one of my mentors. Could you recognize some of your influence?
Traveling Lady, you share my admiration of Azela Robinson. I loved to hate her in Contra Viento y Marea. She always seems to give her characters a steamy, sultry, sensual frumpiness to her characters. I'm not sure I've ever seen her in a top that actually fits. In CVyM she certainly filled out a one piece (as I recall) white bathing suit in a manner that had me drooling and muttering incoherently to myself. I'm loving her antics in this and hope for her rehabilitation.
I'm really enjoying the mad doctor theme here as well. Takes me fondly back to my student days on the psychiatric service where in those days the whimsical wacky psychiatrists were prescribing EST for just about anyone presenting himself with a case of the blues.
Carlos
Thanks for visiting my recap last Tue. Your praise was very warm, generous, and kind. You of course know that you are one of my mentors. Could you recognize some of your influence?
Traveling Lady, you share my admiration of Azela Robinson. I loved to hate her in Contra Viento y Marea. She always seems to give her characters a steamy, sultry, sensual frumpiness to her characters. I'm not sure I've ever seen her in a top that actually fits. In CVyM she certainly filled out a one piece (as I recall) white bathing suit in a manner that had me drooling and muttering incoherently to myself. I'm loving her antics in this and hope for her rehabilitation.
I'm really enjoying the mad doctor theme here as well. Takes me fondly back to my student days on the psychiatric service where in those days the whimsical wacky psychiatrists were prescribing EST for just about anyone presenting himself with a case of the blues.
Carlos
Carlos,
...."outmatched by a gifted hampster." I lurk some on Gaucho......your Monday recap was fabulous. You found a very handsome praying mantis to illustrate your point, tall, thin....green.
...."outmatched by a gifted hampster." I lurk some on Gaucho......your Monday recap was fabulous. You found a very handsome praying mantis to illustrate your point, tall, thin....green.
Great recap, Jardinera, funny and breezy as usual. I would never have known you were sick. But get well soon. I'm glad you had all those remedies at hand to help you through it.
I think this part of the story is fascinating, not troublesome at all. Why? Because the bad guys have made so many mistakes. Think of their problems: Fernando is coming to the party, and knows MJ, and is also suspicious; Bruno is going to try to woo MJ/Sandra, which will never work; John Seagull's group is getting closer to figuring out this may have been an inside job; Elena may have second thoughts about all of this; and last but not least, what if MJ/Sandra accidentally sees the REAL Sandra, who's in a "restricted" area, but isn't she still in the same compound?
I think it'll be wild to see how everything develops. Carla Estrada's writers always throw in surprises, so I'm anticipating some doozies.
I think this part of the story is fascinating, not troublesome at all. Why? Because the bad guys have made so many mistakes. Think of their problems: Fernando is coming to the party, and knows MJ, and is also suspicious; Bruno is going to try to woo MJ/Sandra, which will never work; John Seagull's group is getting closer to figuring out this may have been an inside job; Elena may have second thoughts about all of this; and last but not least, what if MJ/Sandra accidentally sees the REAL Sandra, who's in a "restricted" area, but isn't she still in the same compound?
I think it'll be wild to see how everything develops. Carla Estrada's writers always throw in surprises, so I'm anticipating some doozies.
Hombre: Wow! You have put a whole new spin on things! You've given us hope in a drab array of camp in overdrive. Thanks! I look forward to watching the writers if they in fact take your tack. Should be good.
SandyTn: Yes, I do like to get my hands in the soil up to my knuckles every spring and summer. ; > )
Hombre, you definetely got me thinking about what's going to happen next...hmmm...but is it really impossible for MJ to fall for Bruno if she doesn't remember anything? After all, she did before...probably unlikely though.
Cielo, maybe MJ could fall for Bruno, but what would Fernando say if he saw Bruno and "Sandra" together? Or what would Victoria say? How's Bruno going to bring "Sandra" home to the family? That would be fun!
Cielo de Levy i don't know if you saw the preview for Monday, but Bruno is giving MJ flowers and she is cringing away from either it's fear or disgust.
I agree with Hombre, Bruno is no going to luck out in this like he thinks.Elena is going to do what benefits her and that's keeping MJ thinking she is Sandra.
I also agree Dr.Demented, Elena and Bruno have made a lot of mistakes, lets hope that it catches up to them this week.
I agree with Hombre, Bruno is no going to luck out in this like he thinks.Elena is going to do what benefits her and that's keeping MJ thinking she is Sandra.
I also agree Dr.Demented, Elena and Bruno have made a lot of mistakes, lets hope that it catches up to them this week.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:21:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:21:00 PM EST
Sandy, wow, thanks for the complement. If you haven't watched the show give it a look. It's definitely not the traditional TN, but irreverently hews to a traditional TN format and abounds with the TN cliches that we love so much. I have it on pretty good authority that Monday's show will be action packed. Of course, now it'll be coming on at 2:00 EST 3:00 CST.
Carlos
Carlos
Hombre you are right about Fernando. I think by now he is probably smart enough to recognize that Sandra is MJ. We can only hope.
Anon, I missed the avance so just watched it on youtube. Good job, MJ. That guy is not worth it.
Anon, I missed the avance so just watched it on youtube. Good job, MJ. That guy is not worth it.
Everybody--to help identify MJ, remember her knife scar is about the only thing she has going for her. Sandra has all those tatoos, but we're pretty sure she's not going to recover.
MJ has that mole on her left breast, but due to being overlooked by the directors, the "real" Sandra also has one in exactly the same place.
Newbie in Md
MJ has that mole on her left breast, but due to being overlooked by the directors, the "real" Sandra also has one in exactly the same place.
Newbie in Md
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:44:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:44:00 PM EST
Let's not forget that Roberto is sniffing around trying to find out what happened to Useless.
Somehow I don't think Useless is dead. Jorge might have injected him with the same mind-erasing drug he injected MJ with and as his mind recovers (because you have to keep taking the drugs to keep your mind erased) he stumbles back to the ranch and foils things.
Somehow I don't think Useless is dead. Jorge might have injected him with the same mind-erasing drug he injected MJ with and as his mind recovers (because you have to keep taking the drugs to keep your mind erased) he stumbles back to the ranch and foils things.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:47:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 2:47:00 PM EST
Newbie Sandra tatoos alone would distinguish her from MJ so how could they even think to use her. You are also right about MJ's scar from her knife stabbing.
As so many have commented on it already that the writers did stressed that part when it happened.
Anon 2:47 i don't know about Useless still being alive Dr. Jorge kind of implied that he was dead.
As so many have commented on it already that the writers did stressed that part when it happened.
Anon 2:47 i don't know about Useless still being alive Dr. Jorge kind of implied that he was dead.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 3:12:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 3:12:00 PM EST
Anon, that's a great speculation that Useless turns up to foil Dr. Demented. I was pretty sure he killed him off, but you never know in the wacky TN world.
For some reason I think Sandra will recover, be rehabilitated, and welcomed warmly into MJ and Alex's extended family, minus Bruno. Possibly the reason I think she'll recover is that Dr. D is so sure she won't. That seems like an anvil hovering over him.
I'm with Hombre, I find this part of the novela interesting. I was getting a bit bored with MJ and Alex's repetitive billing and cooing.
Maybe Levy's grief was slightly over the top. I still thought he did a pretty good job. After all, when they've gone waaay overboard showing how much he loved her, his feelings of loss would be pretty intense.
For some reason I think Sandra will recover, be rehabilitated, and welcomed warmly into MJ and Alex's extended family, minus Bruno. Possibly the reason I think she'll recover is that Dr. D is so sure she won't. That seems like an anvil hovering over him.
I'm with Hombre, I find this part of the novela interesting. I was getting a bit bored with MJ and Alex's repetitive billing and cooing.
Maybe Levy's grief was slightly over the top. I still thought he did a pretty good job. After all, when they've gone waaay overboard showing how much he loved her, his feelings of loss would be pretty intense.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 3:19:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 3:19:00 PM EST
"My dad used to fix us hot lemonade in a big mug with some Jack Daniels thrown in (he's from Tenn.)(when we were in college) and suddenly the world seemed a warmer friendlier place."
JudyB - ITA - LOL I was once told to use rye whiskey & lemon. It did not help the cold, but I didn't care. ;o)
If MJ fell for Bruno once, she could do it again, unless there are undamaged brain cells that instinctively will 'know' he's pure evil.
I can envision Azela Robinson in Tennessee Williams plays. Speaking of Tennessee Williams, I would prefer to see Alex dressed in "wife-beater" (sorry, but it is the popular description) tee shirt, channeling Stanley Kowalski, and yelling "Stella!" ... oops .... "MJ!" from his driveway.
Now that Gancho will come on at 2 p.m., I will try to watch. Might motivate me to spend more time in the sewing room. :-D
JudyB - ITA - LOL I was once told to use rye whiskey & lemon. It did not help the cold, but I didn't care. ;o)
If MJ fell for Bruno once, she could do it again, unless there are undamaged brain cells that instinctively will 'know' he's pure evil.
I can envision Azela Robinson in Tennessee Williams plays. Speaking of Tennessee Williams, I would prefer to see Alex dressed in "wife-beater" (sorry, but it is the popular description) tee shirt, channeling Stanley Kowalski, and yelling "Stella!" ... oops .... "MJ!" from his driveway.
Now that Gancho will come on at 2 p.m., I will try to watch. Might motivate me to spend more time in the sewing room. :-D
Doris, that image of Levy as Stanley Kowalski was priceless! And, you're right, MJ did fall in love with Bruno once. But I don't think the plot is going there.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:15:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:15:00 PM EST
I guess if i was in love with someone like Alex is with MJ i really can't say his grief is over the top because he probably also thinking that she could be molested or killed too.
Since kidnapping is a normal happening in Mexico, grief can have so many manifestations.If he had downplayed it some of us would be criticizing him for that.
I had no problem with his performance at all.
Since kidnapping is a normal happening in Mexico, grief can have so many manifestations.If he had downplayed it some of us would be criticizing him for that.
I had no problem with his performance at all.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:17:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:17:00 PM EST
Doris, on watching Gancho, my thoughts as well. I hate the fact that it has been moved because it inconveniences those who have been watching and recapping it so long and it's just odd to move a night time show to daytime, but the move helps me...I'll have to keep my big mouth shut, can't comment on a show when I don't know the characters very well.
Hombre, I like your refreshing attitude about the kidnapping plot, I guess I just needed an "attitude adjustment" on the improbable brain erasing scheme. Just need to go with the flow on this one.
Hombre, I like your refreshing attitude about the kidnapping plot, I guess I just needed an "attitude adjustment" on the improbable brain erasing scheme. Just need to go with the flow on this one.
I too think Useless will be back, in what capacity who knows but there was no finality there. Yes, the next couple of weeks should be very interesting indeed, and no matter what we guess, we'll be in for surprises I'm sure. The most original guess so far was that Fernando would fall for Sandra. Oh the drama! but that's why we watch afterall. I predict Maura will be repentant and maybe help the good guys. I think after the half smile the other night, Paula after being let down easily by Roberto will be selling artwork with Gabe and loving it.
Lola
Lola
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:36:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 4:36:00 PM EST
Thanks for the re-cap Jardinera, I always enjoy catching up with the action on the weekend. Hope you feel better!
I'm so ready to leave the drizzle and move into Elena and Jorge's ranch, it's just perfect for my fantasy retirement to Mexico, I would love to dig around in that garden too.
I'm also really enjoying the Elena actress, I would like to see more of her in a larger role, like the main vilaness, what fun that would be. I have a feeling Hombre and Carlos wouldn't mind watching that.
I don't think Ulises is dead, the needle thing is too ambiguous and when a villain dies in these stories we ususally get to enjoy the death right? So maybe he will come stumbling back.
I too thought I saw some brain activity being hinted at with Fernando...one can hope right?
I'm with those who think the Alex grief was a little over the top, though they had me going for a minute because I looked away when the baby dissapeared and I thought we had ourselves a stolen baby plot to go along with the kidnapping! Argh. I was very relieved to see he was in the next room.
Gabriel's art dealer was a cameo by the guy who is always going on Cristina with the celebrity gossip (farandula) I think he's the editor of People in Espanol or something.
Will Paula end up with Gabriel or with the redeemed Roberto? Hmmm, hard to say, Gabriel is from her own "clase social", he's being shown to be smart and ambitious, and it would represent her redemtion from her great flaw which is her materialism and social climbing. OTOH the relationship between her and Roberto is sweet and he's going to need someone to help him raise the Raquel+Ulises spawn.
One more thing, I agreed with those who were pointing out the narcisism annoyingness of Victoria but Sandy in TN made a good point, she has taken responsibility and redeemed herself at the same time and is she really doing the right and selfless thing to break up with Ferdumbo? If he ends up with someone else this will be shown to be better for him in the long run, but we're a little close to the end for that now unless Sandra comes back to life, is redeemed somehow and the two best friends end up with the two twin sisters. Double Wedding anyone?!! Woo Hoo! The end.
(you would think I had seen other novelas...)
I'm so ready to leave the drizzle and move into Elena and Jorge's ranch, it's just perfect for my fantasy retirement to Mexico, I would love to dig around in that garden too.
I'm also really enjoying the Elena actress, I would like to see more of her in a larger role, like the main vilaness, what fun that would be. I have a feeling Hombre and Carlos wouldn't mind watching that.
I don't think Ulises is dead, the needle thing is too ambiguous and when a villain dies in these stories we ususally get to enjoy the death right? So maybe he will come stumbling back.
I too thought I saw some brain activity being hinted at with Fernando...one can hope right?
I'm with those who think the Alex grief was a little over the top, though they had me going for a minute because I looked away when the baby dissapeared and I thought we had ourselves a stolen baby plot to go along with the kidnapping! Argh. I was very relieved to see he was in the next room.
Gabriel's art dealer was a cameo by the guy who is always going on Cristina with the celebrity gossip (farandula) I think he's the editor of People in Espanol or something.
Will Paula end up with Gabriel or with the redeemed Roberto? Hmmm, hard to say, Gabriel is from her own "clase social", he's being shown to be smart and ambitious, and it would represent her redemtion from her great flaw which is her materialism and social climbing. OTOH the relationship between her and Roberto is sweet and he's going to need someone to help him raise the Raquel+Ulises spawn.
One more thing, I agreed with those who were pointing out the narcisism annoyingness of Victoria but Sandy in TN made a good point, she has taken responsibility and redeemed herself at the same time and is she really doing the right and selfless thing to break up with Ferdumbo? If he ends up with someone else this will be shown to be better for him in the long run, but we're a little close to the end for that now unless Sandra comes back to life, is redeemed somehow and the two best friends end up with the two twin sisters. Double Wedding anyone?!! Woo Hoo! The end.
(you would think I had seen other novelas...)
Cielo de Levy
¡Feliz Cumpleaños!
We need you to give daughter lessons. You parents are no doubt very proud.
We are certainly proud to have you with us here at Caray Caray.
Carlos
¡Feliz Cumpleaños!
We need you to give daughter lessons. You parents are no doubt very proud.
We are certainly proud to have you with us here at Caray Caray.
Carlos
Doris and Sandy, My Tennessee friends..... excited to think you might join our little group watching Gancho. I think, actually, it's on at 3 pm. (2 pm for Carlos) And heck, jump right in! You don't need to know the characters to comment. It's a very welcoming group and there's no such thing as "off topic". So heat up that lemonade, squirt in a little Jack Daniels (it's good in coffee too), pick up your quilting or whatever and join us. We would love it.
randysea:
Great to hear from you again. I have to say, you should write for the TNs. I like your (fantasy) ending with Fernando and Sandra.
What do we do with Vicky? Do we give her to the kidnapping specialist? And Katia? And
As several of you have said, I love Porfirio's Rancho in Toluca. I remember hearing that part of MEPS was filmed in Toluca as well. Looks like a great place to live, but very expensive I would guess from seeing these properties. Jarocha, isn't Toluca close to Mexico City?
Great to hear from you again. I have to say, you should write for the TNs. I like your (fantasy) ending with Fernando and Sandra.
What do we do with Vicky? Do we give her to the kidnapping specialist? And Katia? And
As several of you have said, I love Porfirio's Rancho in Toluca. I remember hearing that part of MEPS was filmed in Toluca as well. Looks like a great place to live, but very expensive I would guess from seeing these properties. Jarocha, isn't Toluca close to Mexico City?
Anon Sun Jan 17, 04:17:00 PM EST -
I concur!
I concur!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:21:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:21:00 PM EST
Thanks, Jardinera. I hope that you are feeling better. You and I seem to have been bitten by the same nasty bug. I developed a sore throat 2 days before Christmas. The doctor prescribed an antibiotic that made me sick . Then, she prescribed Erythromycin which seemed to do the trick, but here it is weeks later and my sinuses are still bothering me. Winter...meh. Anyhoo, the plot is certainly thickening. Now, it seems that we'll be able to use the phrase ''Meanwhile, back at the ranch...'' I think that Paula will end up with the up and coming artist Gabriel which leaves Roberto o o out in the cold, so I'm offering to fill in there because.... I'm a giver. Randysea: Great to ''see'' you again. I got a kick out of Elena dressing MJ up in her Little Haciendo on the Prarie clothes or maybe it's Ralph Lauren does Mexico.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:25:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:25:00 PM EST
Doris~~~My dad used to make himself a ''hot toddy'' whenever he had a cold.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:26:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:26:00 PM EST
Sandy:
Hope you pop on over to Gancho. I am so enjoying myself there. Are you really coming to SF anytime soon? I would be so delighted to meet you and yours.
Do you think Vicky has redeemed herself? Hmmm. She has been acting very caring with Alex, MJ and Tony and Roberto. She is trying to help Raquel, who has no interest, it seems, in helping herself. I think she has expressed enormous regret at her poor parenting skills. I think I agree with you. But I still don't see her with (my boyfriend) Fernando.
Novelera: to catch up regarding our in-person meeting, please e-mail me at sdougherty3e@gmail.com
Hope you pop on over to Gancho. I am so enjoying myself there. Are you really coming to SF anytime soon? I would be so delighted to meet you and yours.
Do you think Vicky has redeemed herself? Hmmm. She has been acting very caring with Alex, MJ and Tony and Roberto. She is trying to help Raquel, who has no interest, it seems, in helping herself. I think she has expressed enormous regret at her poor parenting skills. I think I agree with you. But I still don't see her with (my boyfriend) Fernando.
Novelera: to catch up regarding our in-person meeting, please e-mail me at sdougherty3e@gmail.com
Ha! Susanlynn, Ralph Lauren does Mexico, that would be a funny departure from his usual anglo-upper-crusty fantasies.
Elna June, I don't know if Vicki will end up with anyone, she probably has to end up alone per the telenovela rules because of her adultery!
JudyB I'm going to have to try Jack and coffee! Too bad it's too late in the day for the coffee, guess it will have to be Jack and something else, and I don't even have a cold!
Elna June, I don't know if Vicki will end up with anyone, she probably has to end up alone per the telenovela rules because of her adultery!
JudyB I'm going to have to try Jack and coffee! Too bad it's too late in the day for the coffee, guess it will have to be Jack and something else, and I don't even have a cold!
Did Porfirio know that Sandra had tattoos? If not, then it may work, or else that's a pretty big deal.
Susalyn, I too think that Paula will end up with Gabriel. Roberto is just not into her like that.
Muchas muchas gracias, Carlos!
Susalyn, I too think that Paula will end up with Gabriel. Roberto is just not into her like that.
Muchas muchas gracias, Carlos!
Does anyone know what time Amor Real is on Telefuturo on Monday ?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:53:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 6:53:00 PM EST
"Gabriel is from her own "clase social", he's being shown to be smart and ambitious, and it would represent her redemtion from her great flaw which is her materialism and social climbing."
Randysea - that is brilliant thinking. I'll bet that's what happens, too.
Susanlynn - you may need a different antibiotic, something full-spectrum at this point.
Randysea - that is brilliant thinking. I'll bet that's what happens, too.
Susanlynn - you may need a different antibiotic, something full-spectrum at this point.
Susanlynn:
Your last post was priceless, amiga. Loved this comment, "which leaves Roberto o o out in the cold, so I'm offering to fill in there because.... I'm a giver". Your generosity and willingness to sacrifice for the cause—well, it's just impressive. LOL.
Also loved the description of Elena's fashion sense as "Little Hacienda on the Prairie".
Your last post was priceless, amiga. Loved this comment, "which leaves Roberto o o out in the cold, so I'm offering to fill in there because.... I'm a giver". Your generosity and willingness to sacrifice for the cause—well, it's just impressive. LOL.
Also loved the description of Elena's fashion sense as "Little Hacienda on the Prairie".
As for the tattoos, I didn't remember those. Could they be the wash-off kind perhaps? Subconsciously Sandra wants help. She perhaps wouldn't go all the way and scar/marr herself physically where anyone might see. She could simply be making a statement with those tats just like with the clothes and hair which are not permanent either.
I seem to be in the minority but I do not like Gabriel. He is uninteresting and a weak choice for Paula. I still say she will run all over him.
Also, did you notice how Meche was massaging Pedro's shoulder the other day when she poured him coffee? What was that all about? I mean, I guess it is CONVENIENT since she lives in the same house. She's a victim, he thinks he's a victim and, as the Hubster likes to say, "There is somebody for everybody".
Also, did you notice how Meche was massaging Pedro's shoulder the other day when she poured him coffee? What was that all about? I mean, I guess it is CONVENIENT since she lives in the same house. She's a victim, he thinks he's a victim and, as the Hubster likes to say, "There is somebody for everybody".
Great recap, of an action packed episode. In fact, if I had to pick just one episode as absolutely the best so far, it would be this one. Alex's pain was a tear jerker for me. It was so real I could feel it.
Viki is one of my favorite characters. I look forward to seeing her in other novelas.
Raquel is one of my least favorite characters. I have alcoholics in my family and I have worked in a rehab with them. I have yet to see one as many negative traits as Raquel has (hysterical, mean and promiscuous, disrespectful etc). Oh, but I almost forgot, it's not her fault. It's all the result of Vicki's poor mothering (which we have inserted into the story).
J.
Viki is one of my favorite characters. I look forward to seeing her in other novelas.
Raquel is one of my least favorite characters. I have alcoholics in my family and I have worked in a rehab with them. I have yet to see one as many negative traits as Raquel has (hysterical, mean and promiscuous, disrespectful etc). Oh, but I almost forgot, it's not her fault. It's all the result of Vicki's poor mothering (which we have inserted into the story).
J.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 8:14:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 8:14:00 PM EST
Gabe is not my favorite either. Paula deserves a hunk like her sister just for hanging in there and defending her like she has. If she wants to be materialistic I see IMHO why she shouldn't keep the same motivators, just temper them a bit with some maturity to make sure the priorities are in the proper order, so to speak.
This is a rockin' fun place today!
randy sea, we've been on the same thinking track this afternoon. I've been wondering who will end up with whom as well. To add to the mix is our kidnap negotiator, Sr. Seagull. He is too well dressed and coiffed to amble out of Merida ALONE, but who can fix him up with? All the gals are addicts, criminals, sick, immature, married (sort of!), etc. Can we bring back poor Erica from MEPS, she never got a beau.... I like the idea of the "twins" double wedding. Boda or not, it would be nice if Sandra awoke healed, this novela needs some good news. Cuco has been carrying the skant Sorti joy on his tiny little shoulders.
Elna June, I never cared for Gabriel either, but I'd rather Paula have him than Roberto. I know too much about Roberto besides, I don't think Paula has the maturity to be a mom to Baby Raquel. Meche and Pedro together, "say it ain't so". How many wacky courtships can one novela have?
JudyB...I drop in and out silently on Gancho. By the way, that was some heart attack!!! Thanks for your welcome post.
randy sea, we've been on the same thinking track this afternoon. I've been wondering who will end up with whom as well. To add to the mix is our kidnap negotiator, Sr. Seagull. He is too well dressed and coiffed to amble out of Merida ALONE, but who can fix him up with? All the gals are addicts, criminals, sick, immature, married (sort of!), etc. Can we bring back poor Erica from MEPS, she never got a beau.... I like the idea of the "twins" double wedding. Boda or not, it would be nice if Sandra awoke healed, this novela needs some good news. Cuco has been carrying the skant Sorti joy on his tiny little shoulders.
Elna June, I never cared for Gabriel either, but I'd rather Paula have him than Roberto. I know too much about Roberto besides, I don't think Paula has the maturity to be a mom to Baby Raquel. Meche and Pedro together, "say it ain't so". How many wacky courtships can one novela have?
JudyB...I drop in and out silently on Gancho. By the way, that was some heart attack!!! Thanks for your welcome post.
Carlos~~Thanks. Just trying to do my part . I think I can straighten Roberto o o out. At least, I'd like to have a try. He's so fino. Hey, Dr. Hotlips from FELS was a presenter on the Golden Globes tonight. I love listening to her speak English. She's charming. Well, time for beddybye. The ''spring'' semester starts tomorrow. Yawn.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 9:57:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 9:57:00 PM EST
Jardinera i don't think anyone is going to plaster that many fake tatoos all over her body like she did.The hair chopped off in itself is a major statement being bleached blonde.
If the tatoos were fake they should have showed us a scene of her washing it off, and the hair also.
One of the women on ENDA had a major hair change but it was written in the story it was a wig.
If they try to make an exchange of the twins i can't see it happening.
If the tatoos were fake they should have showed us a scene of her washing it off, and the hair also.
One of the women on ENDA had a major hair change but it was written in the story it was a wig.
If they try to make an exchange of the twins i can't see it happening.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 11:14:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 17, 2010 at 11:14:00 PM EST
Jardinera that was a great recap. I'm sorry you are sick, I'm sending you all my best.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 7:34:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 7:34:00 AM EST
Elna June. Yes Toluca is near México City. You can see it clearly in this map the number 1 represents the Nevado de Toluca and Toluca is slightly above it. More clearly you can see it here. The part that says Distrito Feredal is Mexico City.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 7:41:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 7:41:00 AM EST
Amor Real starts at 4PM on telefutura. It's on for 2 hours.
That's 2 hours of Colunga 5 days a week. I'll never be the same.
That's 2 hours of Colunga 5 days a week. I'll never be the same.
Variopinta - hopefully Telefutile-a won't chop it to bits like they do other 'novelas. I'm betting on their track record ..... but still better than the DVD version.
Thanks, Jarocha:
As always you are a fount of information. It seems I must plan a visit to Toluca when next I am in Mexico.
Again, Happy Birthday to Cielo today!We are lucky to have your company on this Board.
EJ
As always you are a fount of information. It seems I must plan a visit to Toluca when next I am in Mexico.
Again, Happy Birthday to Cielo today!We are lucky to have your company on this Board.
EJ
Doris, I didn't realize Telefutura cut parts of novelas. The only ones I've watched there have been the first time I've seen them. So I wasn't aware they cut things. I watched Abrazame Muy Fuerte and La Usurpadora on TF.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 2:29:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 2:29:00 PM EST
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I have not had a chance to watch this episode yet. It sure is crummy that I couldn't read comments over the weekend, so I'm a little bit behind.
Novelera - when I watched Betty La Fea last year, the foristas who know that 'novela inside and out were appalled on the cutting of scenes. Then Telefutile-a ran Eco Moda when BLF ended, but ran it under the BLF name (travesty!) and the complaints really started about the chopping & editing. I think EM ran for 2 months and it ended almost abruptly, like a Readers'Digest abridged version. I didn't watch EM but people were not happy.
On the telenovelaworld foro, people are complaining about Pura Sangre being chopped by Telefutile-a right now. Seems like something else was being chopped.
Looneyvision does it, but we usually don't know it because we're seeing stuff first-run. They chopped Pobre Millionaria last year. You couldn't NOT notice that. Stuff was barely making sense, and 'novelas last longer than 2 1/2 months.
On the telenovelaworld foro, people are complaining about Pura Sangre being chopped by Telefutile-a right now. Seems like something else was being chopped.
Looneyvision does it, but we usually don't know it because we're seeing stuff first-run. They chopped Pobre Millionaria last year. You couldn't NOT notice that. Stuff was barely making sense, and 'novelas last longer than 2 1/2 months.
¿Qué?
I thought Amor Real would be complete. My DVD is pathetic. You can tell it WOULD be good, but the continuity stinks because they cut so much out of it. I think it's the one that the 2nd side is totally the making of the TN + other unnecessary things instead of more TN.
I thought Amor Real would be complete. My DVD is pathetic. You can tell it WOULD be good, but the continuity stinks because they cut so much out of it. I think it's the one that the 2nd side is totally the making of the TN + other unnecessary things instead of more TN.
I don't expect a recap, it's been done, but could we have a discussion about Amor Real for those fortunate to see it?
Variopinta: Melinama did recaps for Amor Real before she started this blog up. Also Telenovela-world.com has recaps as well.
Here's the direct link to Telenovela-world. If somebody on the blog can direct you to Melinama's old recap site or you can e-mail her at the email address on the sidebar for more info.
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/~diane/amorreal/SumTW1.HTM
Here's the direct link to Telenovela-world. If somebody on the blog can direct you to Melinama's old recap site or you can e-mail her at the email address on the sidebar for more info.
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/~diane/amorreal/SumTW1.HTM
Variopinto~~I watched Amor Real today from 4.00 to 6.00 , and I don't think anything was cut out. It is an excellent novela.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 6:34:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 6:34:00 PM EST
Variopinta - Copy & paste this
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/list.php?f=295
for the Telenovelaworld forum. That might be a good place to chat about it, and all the old posts from first run would be there.
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/list.php?f=295
for the Telenovelaworld forum. That might be a good place to chat about it, and all the old posts from first run would be there.
Variopinta y Susanlynn
I was home today and I watched Amor Real as well. What fun! if you decide to put up a discussion or recap thread, will you let us know? I miss a lot of subtleties (because my Spanish is intermediate at best) and would welcome the input of more fluent Spanish speakers.
I was home today and I watched Amor Real as well. What fun! if you decide to put up a discussion or recap thread, will you let us know? I miss a lot of subtleties (because my Spanish is intermediate at best) and would welcome the input of more fluent Spanish speakers.
Gracias for the links Doris.
It would be great to have a place here where we could ask questions.
I watched today also, that man just wipes me out.
Carlos said he was a TV addict, well I guess I know how that happened. I've only watched the 9PM TN, but now it's also 4-6PM
It would be great to have a place here where we could ask questions.
I watched today also, that man just wipes me out.
Carlos said he was a TV addict, well I guess I know how that happened. I've only watched the 9PM TN, but now it's also 4-6PM
Elna June~~~I love Amor Real [I've seen it before] , and TBLMOE is my favorite telenovio, but my Spanish skills are dismal. My daughter and son-in-law bought me Rosetta Stone for Christmas, but I haven't tried it yet. The novelas are my guilty pleasure/escape from my own personal telenovela , so I am not using them as a learning tool as many dedicated folks at caraycaray are. When I first started watching, I sat with pen and pad in hand and listed new words. Now, I just use the novelas to chill out after a loooong day of REAL. I would enjoy chatting about Amor Real if we can figure out where to chat. Even if I don't know what the characters are saying, I can still comment on their boots/hair/kissing skilz/muscles/etc.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 8:41:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 8:41:00 PM EST
Variopinta~~~I try to only watch one novela at a time. However, like you, I am now watching from 4 to 6. I came home from work at 3.00, changed my clothes, talked to hub for awhile, and then disappeared to the family room to watch Amor. I reemerged at 6 pm for dinner. Hub may be asking for a divorce. It's slippery slope...on the other hand, I don't smoke or drink [much], or runaround , so I consider the novelas an innocent addiction. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Oooh, time for Sortilegio...gotta run.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 8:48:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 8:48:00 PM EST
They just showed the promo for the new version of CS so now we know the reason for the big novela change.
This novela is doing very poor in ratings in Mexico right now, i wonder if it does the same over here will it get pulled from it's timeslot?
This novela is doing very poor in ratings in Mexico right now, i wonder if it does the same over here will it get pulled from it's timeslot?
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 9:22:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 9:22:00 PM EST
I said this on the ENDA page since Jarocha said the Hasta novela is doing very well in ratings down there.
The reason the move was made was to generate and build up a strong audience for Hasta and then bring in CS and hope some of the audience will stay and watch CS.
What happens if Hasta is not well like and it bombs over here, but lets just say it does do well anyway. If fans of the original CS don't like the newer version or just plain can't watch it because it is awful.
What does Univision do then, i believe this was a very wrong move made by Univision and may comeback to bite them on the butt.
The reason the move was made was to generate and build up a strong audience for Hasta and then bring in CS and hope some of the audience will stay and watch CS.
What happens if Hasta is not well like and it bombs over here, but lets just say it does do well anyway. If fans of the original CS don't like the newer version or just plain can't watch it because it is awful.
What does Univision do then, i believe this was a very wrong move made by Univision and may comeback to bite them on the butt.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 9:32:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 9:32:00 PM EST
Hey all,
Posting really late because I just got back from the West Coast. Caught the shortened version of the Friday episode on YouTube, so very grateful for the thourough recap Jardinera. Count me as one of the saps that was completely taken in by Alex's grief. And when little Tony reached up his tiny little hands to catch Alex's tears...awww, so sad. Lol! I know. But I cry during sappy comercials too. :)
Now, to wach the chopped up version of today's episode on YouTube in order to be able to comment tomorrow.
Happy birthday Cielo! I will send you the info about Haiti from my work account.
-Vivi in DC
Posting really late because I just got back from the West Coast. Caught the shortened version of the Friday episode on YouTube, so very grateful for the thourough recap Jardinera. Count me as one of the saps that was completely taken in by Alex's grief. And when little Tony reached up his tiny little hands to catch Alex's tears...awww, so sad. Lol! I know. But I cry during sappy comercials too. :)
Now, to wach the chopped up version of today's episode on YouTube in order to be able to comment tomorrow.
Happy birthday Cielo! I will send you the info about Haiti from my work account.
-Vivi in DC
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:38:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:38:00 PM EST
Did MJ & Alex forget the baby, they are leaving Porfirios with just a blanket & no carrier. Maybe the baby actor was screaming during that scene.
Fernando's body sure is responding, to the theraPIST.
Vicky s/b be ashamed to abandon Fernando now. I'm sure he thinks it's because he will be a burden.
Anyone see Dr Obregon (MEPS) in the fiber one commercial? Love that guy, I hope to see him in sth soon.
I remember it being said that Elena was teaching MJ to drive, but don't recall the scene.
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Fernando's body sure is responding, to the theraPIST.
Vicky s/b be ashamed to abandon Fernando now. I'm sure he thinks it's because he will be a burden.
Anyone see Dr Obregon (MEPS) in the fiber one commercial? Love that guy, I hope to see him in sth soon.
I remember it being said that Elena was teaching MJ to drive, but don't recall the scene.
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