Wednesday, March 24, 2010

Corazon Salvaje, Tuesday, March 23: Ep 23--Can't none of y'all handle the truth.

Arcadio leaves Remigio to clean up Dungeon room 1B. In room 1A, Arcadio gags Maria del Rosario and threatens them both to keep quiet. Then he goes back to 1B and leaves Remigio with a trunk and a plank of wood to build a table out of. He goes off, mumbling to himself that Sra. Leonarda will have to be informed.

Clemencia is excited as Regina swishes around some film and she can see a face. Reggie works her chemical magic and finally Juan del Diablo's face is revealed. Clemencia runs off and Regina grinds her teeth together.

Clemencia goes down to the fishermen and tells them she knows something's up. First the gardenias, and now the face of that man who reminds her of Juan de Dios San Roman. Pedro denies knowing anything and Santos parrots him. Clemencia gives them both a dirty look and leaves. Santos wonders if she believed them, but Pedro says they had to lie, for everyone's good. He hopes God will forgive them.

Regina gets so upset over the picture of Juan that she rips it up. She feels he's done them too much harm. Remigio comes in to see if she needs anything else and asks her if she remembers him. He reminds her about the day she got scolded for buying a cookie from him. She does remember and is happy to actually know his name now. He's surprised when she offers her hand for him to shake and wipes it off on his vest first. He tells her he's got to go do some more work. "Ve con Dios," she says (go with God). Remigio replies that he could really use some divine illumination.

Remigio leaves flowers at his mom's grave, as does Juan. Juan is ready to talk now. Remi warns him that he won't let him become a killer. Juan says he made a promise to his dad and came back to get revenge. Remi is ok with that, but it had better be a murderless revenge. He won't watch Juan throw his life away. Juan tells Remigio that he's like a father to him and he saved his life. "If you value that life at all, then I order you…I'll order you if it's necessary…not to go against the fifth commandment of God's law." For those of us who skipped Sunday school, he reminds Juan that he's referring to the one about not killing. Just in case Juan didn't get the picture. Got that, Juan? No killing.

Juan goes to talk to Maria del Rosario's tomb. He asks her for a sign to lead him to how to carry out revenge without killing. Clemencia walks in right then. She sees Juan from behind and thinks "Is it possible?" She notices the birthmark on his neck and knows it's him. She places his mother's rosary over his shoulder, startling him, and tells him that it's his. "Your mother's rosary." She cries and calls him her boy while hugging him around the middle--since that's as high as she can reach. Juan just looks kind of freaked out, like someone forgot to tell big Ed they were filming this scene today. Clemencia goes on to say "You're Maria del Rosario's son! You are Juan de Dios San Roman Montes de Oca!" That's a mouthful to call out on the playground. Better watch it, boy, she knows ALL your names and she's not afraid to use them! Juan blinks in slow motion as we go to commercials.

Clemencia can't get over having Juan in front of her. She's stroking his face and kissing his hand. Juan wants to know what she knows about him and who she is. Clemencia says what's important is what she needs to tell him about his mother.

Mirta struggles to move Maria del Rosario's chair around so that she can see the window. A dove flies in and MdR, still bound and gagged, thought bubbles, "I found him in the sea, I lost him in the sea, and only the sea can return him."

Clemencia tells Juan that his mother died a few minutes after giving birth to him. She thanks God and the Virgen for granting her the miracle of having him in her arms again. She calls him Juan de Dios and he wonders how she knows that's his name. Clemencia tells him that she wrote the letter to ask that he be baptized with that name. Juan says that means he owes her his life. Clemencia denies it and says it's his mom that he owes, and God. She reminds him that God gives life and only God can decide when it's over. Juan remembers asking his mother for a sign. Hey, man, you asked for a sign, you got a sign, and you can't complain if it's not the sign you wanted!

Down on the beach, Pedro, Santos, and Remigio are having a little chat about their buddy Juan. Remigio feels bad about laying down the law, but he's determined to keep Juan from turning into a murderer (drink!). Pedro and Santos are in agreement. Santos is ok with the revenge bit, just not the killing.

Arcadio rides out to meet Leonarda's carriage. He calls out to warn her and she points to the other carriage window, where Rosenda is sitting, so he changes what he was going to say to "The merchandise you left with me, um, it's about to be discovered." Leo tells him to get back to the finca and watch over "the merchandise" until she gets there. She calls to the coachman to hurry it up. Rosenda tries to wheedle more information out of Leo, saying that Arcadio seemed mighty upset, but golly gee, it's so hard for her to understand what he was upset about. "You know you can trust me, right? Maybe you want to tell me something, hm?" Leo says she'll consider it.

Regina finds yet another picture of Juan del Diablo. She remembers Aimee telling her that until she's been with a big strapping man like Juan Double D, she won't really know what lust is. There's a new nickname for him, I-Juan-A-Know-What-Lust-Is. Regina rips up yet another picture and assures the room that she'll NEVER end up in the arms of that savage. Which, of course, means she's guaranteed to. Nice going, Santa Regina.

Juan sits by a hut on the beach with Curly, who notices Juan is sad. Curly says he's never (in all his day and a half of having known Juan) seen Juan like this. Curly reminds Juan that Juan can count on him for whatever, cause he owes his freedom to Juan. And also because he and Juan are exactly alike. Juan agrees that they both suffered because they didn't start out life with fathers who loved and cared for them. Curly says that now he has Juan and the other fishermen. Juan tells Curly that he's his family now. Curly agrees and says there's nothing more important than family. Juan thought bubbles that he's a Montes de Oca, like it or not, and he's got their blood in his veins.

Pedro comes to Juan with a painting of his dad that Mabel painted. That so does not look like Juan Sr. Pedro tells Juan that everybody loved and respected his dad and that despite all his pain, Juan Sr. never turned into a killer. The horse. It is dead. Stop beating it! Curly asks Juan what Pedro meant by that. Juan doesn't answer and we cut to the Puerto de Alvarado.

Fed and Roddy are out walking and Fed throws a hissy fit because he thinks he's being snubbed by the other boys on the playground, and all because of that ho! Rod tells him that if any of the boys give him trouble, Roddy will set them straight. Fed mentions that he went to see Reggie and she agreed that they can be friends. Rod thinks that's a good start. He's sure Fed will end up earning her love, as long as he's patient and persistent. "Trust me, I know women." Ja. Ja. Jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja. Ja. Ok, I'm fine now. Rod gets a message that Noel needs to talk to him ASAP and leaves.

Regina is still hanging up pictures as Leonarda comes in screaming at the top of her lungs that Reggie doesn't have permission to be down here and that only Arcadio is allowed.

Noel has just broken the bad news to Rodrigo and Raul (if I'm remembering his name correctly) that the long-haired guy who they keep being rude to is the authorized representative of their business partner Juan Aldama. He even sent some cablegrams for verification and he shows them the responses he got. Noel widens his eyes significantly when he tells Rodrigo that Santiago's heir, their current business partner, is named JUAN Aldama de la Cruz. Why isn't anyone asking what the "authorized representative"'s name is? Or do they not care? Or is it not significant if his name is also Juan?

Juan del Diablo touches the painting of his dad and remembers his dad making him swear to remember that all their misfortunes are due to the Montes de Ocas. Hm, he didn't explicitly say "revenge" did he? Juan tells Juan Sr. that he was the only one to see him die. "That's why I can't forgive!" Gabriel comes in. Juan shows him the painting and cries. Gabriel notices the family resemblance, that they're both strong men. Juan says he never saw him that way, he saw him turned into a "despojo humano" (a wreck of a man) and all thanks to those horrible, nasty, no-good, rotten Montes de Ocas! So, yeah, he'll have his revenge, thanks, especially now that he's seen Rod. He's realized what a snot Rod is and he thinks he deserves all the suffering Juan has in store for him. Gabriel is concerned that ruining Rod will also ruin Juan. Juan says he's diversified enough that it won't really bother him. Hm, wasn't Renato talking about diversifying the family's investments just yesterday? Those two boys need to get together and get good and drunk and talk about all the things they have in common. And one day, I hope they do. Juan lets Gabriel know that he's already told Noel that he (Juan) is the legal rep for "Juan Aldama de la Cruz." Also, they are expecting Raul to visit. Juan has already confronted him with his embezzlement and he wants Gabe to have all the documents ready to shove in Raul's face at the moment of his triumphant entrance. Gabe is all too happy to get right on that. Juan looks at the painting again. "The hour of my revenge has arrived!"

Clemencia goes to chew out Pedro and Santos for not telling her that Juan de Dios' son had returned. She asks why he doesn't want to get close to his family, "Is he planning something bad?" Santos asks her not to push, they aren't supposed to tell her anything. "Greeeat. One more secret in the Montes de Oca family! Don't you all think it's been enough?" She had always thought that Juan's return would bring peace and calm to the family. Why? What's she been smoking? She tells Pedro and Santos that by their silence she can tell that the Montes de Oca are condemned to a life of "rencor" (resentment) and suffering. She leaves and Santos and Pedro look at each other guiltily.

Regina asks Leo what the big flippin' deal is. "I've only seen you get this upset once before, on the day you found the bouquet of gardenias in the room." Reggie wonders why it's so bad for her to be in there. Leo says that Reggie is in danger because the place is in ruins and what would happen if it all crumbled with her in there? Reggie says it can't be that bad if Arcadio lives down there. "Oh, well, his room is reinforced, just not the rest." Leo begs her, for her own safety, to get out as soon as possible. She offers that if Regina needs a darkroom to develop her, uh, "images,"…"They're photographs"…whatever, she'll get a room in the house fixed up for her. Reggie says she didn't want to upset her and she'll gladly take a room in the house. "See how easy it is for us to get along!" Leo tells Arcadio to relocate all of Reggie's stuff to…"The attic?" Leo agrees with the suggestion and tells Arcadio to move all of it. Reggie is worried he won't do it carefully enough, but Leo pushes her out of the room. Arcadio dismantles the makeshift table and shoves the trunk…Maria del Rosario's trunk…into a corner of the room, covering it with rags. He grabs Regina's camera and leaves and we see that all the bits of pictures of Juan are on the floor. Uh, oh, are those going to make it back to mommy?

Regina and Leo walk back into the house. Regina passes on going up to see if the attic will work for her, she trusts Leo's judgment. She asks to stay outside in the garden. Rosenda walks up after Leo goes inside. "I heard you got kicked out of the 'pasadizos'" (passages). "OUR godmother doesn't like anyone going in there." Regina tells Rosenda that Leo told her they were in a bad state and there could be a cave in. Rosenda agrees that might be true, but points out that Leo gets really upset when she finds out someone goes in there. "Sometimes I ask myself, Why does she get so upset?" Rosenda claims that she's just concerned because in some way she's obligated to watch over what's going on at the finca. And to watch out for Leonarda and Renato. "Just like you. Because I'm sure you're also worried about Don Renato's well-being." Rosenda says she can tell just by looking at Reggie when Renato's around. "I don't mean to offend you with my words. I'm just an employee here, but you can trust me. I know how to keep secrets, and I can be your friend, too, and tell you what I see. Above all, when your sister goes out to walk around." Rosenda takes her leave and Reggie makes a face.

Clemencia has a very concerned chat with a very concerned-looking Virgencita. She doesn't know why no one's telling her anything, but she's afraid that hate is stronger than love and revenge will destroy them all. There's a knock on the door and Clemencia dries her tears and answers the door to Regina. Clemencia tells Reggie not to worry about her running off earlier, it was just "cosas de viejas" (old lady stuff). Regina comments that Cemencia is always praying to the Virgen del Carmen (aka, Our Lady of Mount Carmel, the patroness of the Carmelite order and patron saint of Chile…so I don't know why Clemencia is praying to her and not the Virgen de Guadalupe, but there you have it) and asks why she's doing so just now. Clemencia sits her down to talk. "Regina, I've been thinking about the things happening between you and your sister and I want to beg you to keep this in mind: when something comes between two sisters, the hate takes over their hearts and it destroys their peace. I'd know. Regina, there's something that's been tormenting me, and I need you to tell me, is your love for Renato strong enough to turn you against your sister, and even do her serious harm?" Regina says it's not. She loves her sister and doesn't wish for anything bad to happen to her. She wonders what makes Clemencia doubt. "Years ago, when neither you nor Aimee was born, I found out the story of two sisters. The hate of one destroyed the other." She doesn't want that to happen to Regina and Aimee. "Resign yourself to not having Renato's love and instead of judging your sister, be closer to her. Because if she really is in danger, then you need to save her instead of condemning her."

Leo blames Arcadio for not following her orders and Arcadio blames Regina for being stubborn and insisting. Leo tells him he'd better tighten up security and quit drinking. "What if someone gets in here and finds out that my sister is alive? That day, both our luck runs out." Arcadio reminds her that he wanted to kill MdR in the first place. "Muerto el perro, se acaba la rabia" (If the dog is dead, the rabies is finished). He heads out with a knife and Leo just ineffectually gasps and sputters and says nothing. Arcadio goes in and laughs at Mirta for trying to protect MdR. He calls her stupid and pushes her down. He points the knife at MdR, but she looks at him and he just unties her gag and cuts the ropes tying her to the chair. He warns them both that at the first scream, he'll cut their throats. He leaves and Mirta finishes untying MdR and hugs her.

Leonarda gets a visit from Eloisa. She seems thrilled. Not. Eloisa says she decided to come get Aimee and they could go shopping. "Fulgencio leaves me alone so often, the only entertainment I have is to spend his money." Aimee comes downstairs and asks for permission to go, "Maybe we'll find pretty things to decorate mine and Renato's bedroom." Dun, dun, dun, says the music. Eloisa reminds Leo that she's a respectable married woman and people need to get a look at Renato Montes de Oca's bride-to-be. She'll be the envy of all the marriage-age women. Leo gives in and tells her not to be too long. "Don't forget for a moment that you're engaged to my son, jajaja, and that you should be respectful." "Oh, I'd never forget because Renato's so, so honorable, and I always try to live up to him." Gag. Aimee promises not to be long and to bring back a little surprise for Leo. Blah-blah-blah, like a mother to me. The two tramps head out. Leo thought bubbles that she'd like nothing more than to be Aimee's mother, as long as she also got to be Rod's wife.

Rod and Feddy walk along as Rod complains that life appears to be mocking him by having that scruffy looking nerfherder as the legal representative of their business partner. Fed asks if he doesn't have to get along with him, for the sake of the business. Rod refuses to lower himself to the level of an "aventurero" (adventurer…but he probably means good-for-nothing peasant). Fed asks what happens when Sr. Juan Aldama de la Cruz shows up. Wait a second here, is Foppy Feddy acting as the voice of reason? Rod claims that he'll demand that Juan fire that "fantoche" (presumptuous puppet, poser) for all the terrible things he's done in Juan's name. He's sure that Juan will listen to his advice. "Being a gentleman isn't a pose or an attitude, and remember this: he lives nobly who is of nobility." Okay, Polonius, whatever. Fed is confused. He goes chasing after Rod.

At the finca, they're cutting cane and Renato is putting in some good hard work. Remigio is instructing the others on how to do it right.

Regina walks near the house, pondering what Clemencia told her. She kneels down and starts praying. Renato walks in and she tries to run from him, but he grabs her and asks why she's running. "Oh, um, I was just going inside the house, that's all." "Don't lie. You never lied to me before." He asks her to forgive him for being brusque, but they've always been close, like siblings, and she's been his best friend, soon to be his sister. He feels like she isn't even interested in having him for a brother-in-law, so he really wanted to talk to her. Regina says there's no point talking about it. "Soon, I won't cause any problems because soon I'll go back to the house at the port." "You feel so bad here at the finca? My presence is so disagreeable to you?" He strokes her face and asks her what's up. "I can see you're suffering. I'd have to be blind not to notice that your eyes are fighting back tears." The narrator narrates, "With what terrible effort did Regina reign in her heart, which 'desbocado' [runaway] is about to leave her chest? With what enormous strength of will does she contain her tears, which have formed a knot in her throat, like a rope threatening to suffocate her? Meanwhile her only free hand closes firmly, digging her nails into her skin with the intention of calming herself." Regina thanks Renato for his concern, but says he shouldn't give so much importance to her tears. "It's just my nerves, and missing the convent." She tells him she had no intention of offending anyone last night, she just asked her sister if she was sure about her feelings. "I think with respect to marriage that it's better to change your mind an hour before than a minute after." Renato wonders why Aimee would change her mind. "Or don't you think I'm worthy of her? Sometimes it's not necessary to say things with words what can be clearly understood with deeds." Renato now thinks that Regina is avoiding him because she doesn't like him as a husband for her sister. He begs her to just talk about it openly. "You stopped being my friend once you realized I was in love with Aimee. Since then you've treated me with indifference, coldness, antipathy." He asks her why and asks what he' done to her, what she has against him. "Are you afraid I won't make your sister happy? That's it, isn't it? What are my failings? What are the defects you find in me? Please speak honestly to me! I need the truth!" Oh, Renato, you can't handle the truth. And neither can Regina, apparently, since she says nothing.

Aimee and Eloisa have a drink at the café. Eloisa points out some men who are looking at the two of them. Aimee gets her into the game of rating them from 1-10. She declares Bachelor #1 a 6 and Bachelor #2 a 7. Eloisa giggles and says they're all very attractive. "Isn't at least one of them an 8?" Aimee thinks the guy in the yellow suit might merit a 9, but Eloisa disagrees and says that in "la intimidad" (intimacy; i.e., in the bedroom) he doesn't deserve more than a 5. Aimee toasts to that. I looked for information on the history of rating things on a scale of 1-10, but Google did not come through for me. Still, I feel fairly comfortable declaring this to be anachronistic.

Renato is still begging for an answer. Regina says there's no point. She admits that Renato is flawless and any woman would want him. "Are you praising me or making fun of me?" Regina says she would never make fun of him. "If I seem incomprehensible to you and the rest of the family it's because now we live in different worlds. That's why I'm asking you to forget about me, for all of you to forget, and for you to be happy. Your happiness will be mine." He goes after her, but she escapes, calling back to him to just forget about her, already! Renato is handsomely confused and dismayed.

Regina goes back to her bedroom and asks God why he keeps pushing her limits and making her face temptation and wake her memories, why, why, why does the test have to be so hard? "I need your mercy and your understanding. Mercy! Mercy! Mercy!" God: "Hey, quit blaming me for this. You're the one who lacks the cojones to be honest about your feelings. Pues, allá tu!" (that's your problem)

Tomorrow: Juan and Gabriel practice fencing; Aimee takes a bubble bath; Aimee tells Regina that tonight she's going to tell Juan that she's marrying Renato; Juan gets upset; Raul is confused and Juan tells him to just follow orders; Juan brings a blindfolded Aimee to the beach.

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Well, nothing terribly exciting tonight, despite the promises of fiery revenge and whatnot. Damn promo monkeys. Hey, we didn't even get an assignation tonight! Shenanigans!
 

Kat, brilliant as always for an episode without much action. I was lol at many things, but this one was my fav: I-Juan-A-Know-What-Lust-Is. Good call. :)
 

I don't know if a Salvaje drinking game is such a good idea. We'll be headed right down the merry road to alcohol poisoning -

Juan de Diooos! -drink-
I am Juan del Diablo, and I will have revenge! -drink-
We must keep Juan from becoming a murderer! -drink-
Aimee es mine, all mine! -drink-

And that's just Round Juan - er, One! (Trip to the ER? Eh, what's one more shot along the way!)

But while we're playing games, I have another: Quick! On a scale of one to ten, who's the biggest ho in town? Here's a hint, it's not Fifi!

I am liking me some Clemencia. That cookie is not dumb. A little naive about some people, but not dumb. I think she's been taking math lessons from Noel.

I'm torn about this whole 'murderless revenge' thing, though. On the one hand, death would be a little quick for the likes of Rod and Leona. On the other, I'd be absolutely giddy if a pie cart ran them both down at once and stopped just short enough to leave white...fluff...all over Aimee's face. ('course, nothing says it has to be Juan pushing the cart...)

Ah, Renato, Renato, Regina! I just need to kick you both so terribly hard.

"It can't be that bad if Arcadio's living down here!" "Well, you know. We're sort of hoping it'll cave in on his head."
 

This is only the third TN I have watched (Passion and MEPS being the other two) so I have a question for those of you who have watched TNs far longer than me. Is MDR's character possibly the worst part an actress has ever had to portray? I mean being veiled, shut up in a dungeon with a mute cellmate, cradling a "rag baby", and waiting for visits from a DOVE? Oy-vey! Has any part ever been worse than this one?
 

xlntperuvian:
I've seen tons of novelas in the last two decades, and I'm sure that I've met worse roles. I can't enumerate every single one because I usually erase the awful memories from my mind. But in the Mejía and Larrosa novelas there are many humiliating roles. For example in Entre el amor y el odio (Mejía) Alberto Estrella (Mario from Pasión) and Sabine Moussier (Justina from Mi pecado) were condemned to play the most disgusting nutjob villains.

Anyway, I feel sorry for Laura Flores, because she deserves lead roles. But obviously an actress of her caliber wouldn't have signed up to this novela if she hadn't been promised to play more challenging scenes in exchange for this veil-rag baby circus.
 

Kat~~Thanks for another wonderful recap. I really appreciated ''I-Juan-to-know-what-lust-is.'' I have to get ready for work , but I wanted to make a few comments before I dash headlong into reality. First, I've been trying to think of what Arcadio's outfit reminds me of, and I think I've figured it out. Do you remember the uniforms of the military apes in ''Planet of the Apes?'' I think they wore similar leather vests with boots and dark shirts and pants. Also, that chest Arcadio gave Remigio to make a table...is that Constanza's chest that she put the letter in before she died ? Speaking of chests, I feel that the bear hug Clem gave Juan was for all of us . What-a-chest. I got a kick out of Reggie developing the photos of Juan, being shocked, and then hurriedly ripping them up. Hello ! You took a lot of photos of ''The Savage'' on that sea cruise, Honey , so what did you expect would develop ? I have thought of another alternate titles for this novela . How about ''Sisters'' because the plotline revolves around two sets of sisters and their relationships to one man which leads to mucho sibling rivalry. Hmmm...Revenge without killing...how about seducing not one of Old Rod's daughters but two ??? And maybe ruining the old stuffed shirt financially. Now, that's revenge without killing.
 

One more quick thought. I subscribe to the ''Living well is the best revenge'' as the best attitude to take. However, we all know that this will not be Juan's first choice. Since Clem was his ''sign'' will she help him avenge his parents somehow ?
 

Kat, Kat, Kat...you dipped your pen in the well of snarktastic ink, didn't you? Juan Double D, the very concerned looking virgencita, the Googling of the raings scale...just a few of your very funny tidbits, along with some great vocabulary. Mille grazie!

New name for the show: La Camara Solitaria. It will prove to be the revealer of all secrets & the most important, uncredited role in the whole TN.

Clemencia & Juan's scenes were rather touching, probably because Juan didn't have to yell or do the snarly nose thing (you know, when he's thinking of revenge & he's supposed to look really mean & tigerish). Funny, how he can look so handsome at one moment & so ridiculous the next.

Renato is rather fine despite the Elvis sideburns. Why oh why wasn't he stripped to the waist when he was out in the field? Such a tease...

Leo is losing it. 40 years of unrequited love for Rod, 40 years of Arcadio's [gag] attentions, 40 years of having a stick up her a$$...bitter old hag.

And MdR, oof, that poor woman's eyes will be bugging out of her head if they ever take that veil off. As someone mentioned late yesterday, what a thankless role.

Aimee & Eloisa are setting up their own sexual WalMart, giving away the goodies while the high priced specialty shop up the street goes bust. We're not only learning Spanish but economics as well...see, TNs are very educational!

Off to work (which is not nearly as much fun but oh so necessary)...
Maggarita
;-D

word verification: mated! What's in store for tonight???
 

Kat that was awesome. Thank you. I only got to see bits and pieces but it doesn't sound like it was very exciting. Eloisa and Aimee what a couple of hos for sure. On the Skank-o-Meter I'd rate them at about a 9.5.

When Renato and Regina were talking I was thinking "Tell him already you stupid cow!"

Would somebody open the stupid chest already? Ack!
 

Thank you for the recap, Kat!

I was kind of surprised that they moved Regina's darkroom out of the catacombs. It was so handy.

Maybe the only reason they installed her there for one episode is so she could leave the shreds of a photo of Juan in the wastepaper basket for Rosario to find.

And a few prints hanging to dry. Couldn't tell what was on the prints, but they looked like pictures of the ship deck.

It will be interesting to see what obsession Rosario makes of the photo when she puts it back together, as I assume she will. She's been carrying around that rag for a baby for 27 years or so.

And also, as was brought up, they had to have an excuse to show us the chest stowed away down there a couple of times.

xlntperuvian, jail time, kidnapping and bondage is a staple of telenovelas. It's almost a given that at least one character will wind up in jail or a straight jacket in a mental institution, or some other sequestering, LOL.
 

Remember poor Liliana from MEPS? She had been in the looney bin for many years.
 

Kat you never fail to disappoint I- Juan-A-Know-What-Lust-Is still ROFL from that one.
 

I wish the plot would pick up a little it seems to be dragging. We need some intrigue and mystery. I thinks MEPS was the best at that when they had the letter with the clues. That was fun trying to figure it out. Then Fuego had that damn box thay they wouldn't open for several weeks.
 

Kat....just reading your translation is enough.....i don't need to see the novela........your better......although i did see it last night....i try tuning in about 2 or 3 times a week just to be able to read the comments....someone mentioned the next novela will Star Fernado Colunga what is the name of that novela??? i can hardly wait.....i too am new to the novelas....the only ones i have seem are with Colunga and Levy....i think Colunga is far better.....he would of been great in this one....i will just have to wait for the next Colunga adventure to come along.............BNinCA
 

The first time I heard of the 1-10 rating of members of the opposite sex, was in the 1979 movie, Ten, with Dudley Moore and Bo Derek. It caught on like wild fire.

Another possible anachronism was the clips Reg used to hang her photos in the dark room (with a window). I don't know what they used back then, but springy clothespins hadn't even been invented, let alone springy clips for hanging photos--probably not even springs.
 

BNinCA
"the next novela will Star Fernado Colunga what is the name of that novela???"

Novelapaedia mode ON

The first version of the title was "La duena de tu amor", now it's simply "Soy tu duena". It's the remake of La duena (1995) with Francisco Gattorno, Angélica Rivera, Cynthia Klithbo. The producer of the remake is Nicandro Diaz, he made Destilando amor and Manana es para siempre. The protagonists are Lucero, Colunga, Gaby Spanic and David Zepeda from Sortilegio.

Corazón salvaje ends on the 16 of April, Soy tu duena starts next Monday, on the 19 of April.

Novelapaedia mode OFF :)
 

Aribeth.....thank you for that info...my secretary is also a Colunga/Lucero fan and we are excited to see the next novela with him....so your saying salvaja will end in april? is that here in US or in Mex...
Thanks for the info....BNinCA
 

Our rich witches could have taken the notion of rating men from 1 to 10 from the value of their diamonds, rubies and sapphires.

In 1812, mineralogist Friedrich Mohs developed the 1 to 10 scale to rate the hardness of gem stones.

1. Talc (soapstone)
2. Gypsum (alabaster)
3. Calcite
4. Fluorite
5. Apatite
6. Feldspar
7. Quartz
8. Topaz
9. Corundum (ruby and sapphire)
10. Diamond
 

BNinCA
In Mexico. :) The novela has 135 episodes, it means 27 weeks.

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Maggarita:
"do the snarly nose thing"
:-DDDD
Great observation, Ed indeed loves to wrinkle his nose when his characters are supposed to be angry. :-)

"Elvis sideburns"
ROTFLOL
 

CS ends in mexico next month. I can hardly wait for La Duena to start here in the US.
I still think that DeLa Fuente would have made a better Juan de diablo, although Yanez does well too, i just drool whenever he is shirtless, and i love that smile of his. OK let me clean the drool coming out the side of my mouth :)
I agree the town ho's have competition with Aimee and Eloisa.
About the trunk, wonder why Johnny Cash hasnt tried to open the trunk himself. Hmmmm
I really thought Regina was going to finally tell Renato that she is in love with him, he kept pushing her for an answer oh well. The TN has a long way to go still.
Love the recaps, thanks, sometimes i can quite understand what they are saying so the recaps help . Thanks!
 

Thanks, Kat for a super recap. And thanks to Jody for yesterday. Y'all keep me in the loop. Amazing how soft and sweet Regina is, while Aimee is hard and cruel. Excellent work from Aracely.
I've been thinking of Gabe as the Jeri Curl guy of this TN.
La Paloma
 

I have a question since this novela ends in Mexico this April why in the world was it nominated for best novela along with Hasta Dinero when both of them haven't finished yet.It was in competition with Sortilegio,MEPS and Mi Pecado, this doesn't make any sense.

Last year i asked why MEPS wasn't nominated it was because it was still running.
 

Kat: Loved the title and the recap was stellar. I-Juan-A-Know-What-Lust-Is is definitely side bar worthy. Simply great.

Aribeth, your take on why Laura Flores ever committed to this was very interesting. Such a waste of talent. Perhaps she did it to simply keep working. Not a lot of lead roles for women over 40. I hope you're right and she lands a plumb role shortly.

Mad Bess, yes, Arcadio's outfit IS stright from the Planet of the Apes. Excellent call. Too funny.

Aimee will never give up her extracurricular activities if she ends up marrying Renato. I'm sure she'd like to keep Juan on the side but he is probably too principaled to do so. She'll be bitterly disappointed if Juan finds consolation in Regina's arms which is why I hope it happens and does so quickly.

Diana
 

Keel-haulin' Kat:

Thanks for a fine recap. My favorite bit?

"Being a gentleman isn't a pose or an attitude, and remember this: he lives nobly who is of nobility." Okay, Polonius, whatever.

Renato as prating Polonius? Fabulous. Just fabulous.

Iron Elna O'Velvet
 

Someone mentioned that Laura Flores was going to be another novela i think with Cesar Evora again?
 

Some people thought Laura Flores was over the hill and done back 12 years ago when she played in the hit kid novela, "Gotita de Amor."

There were comments then that she was too old for Álex Ibarra at that point; but she keeps reinventing herself.

If you look at her IMDb page, she's been in a little bit of everything, so it's not really surprising she took this role. Some actors just like to work.
 

I meant to say, Diana, I think that Juan will be so hurt when he finds out Regina's married someone else that he won't want her any more, rather than a matter of principle. He'll be angry, too; but hurt. He's just a softy underneath.
 

I would certainly be willing to console him. 8(:-P
 

he he he he he

Well, I think Regina is at the front of the line, there.
 

We were discussing how they avoided pregnancy in the 1800's.
Antonia said that Manuel was a doctor & knew what to do.
This was in the Amor Real recap for today's episode.
Manuel is telling Matilde that Antonia is not pregnant & if she is, it's not his, he explains it this way
"Me retiré antes"
Rosario explains that women can avoid pregnancy with "esponjas con vinagre", good luck with that one.
Of course Matilde is muy impactada.
 

People were using types of condoms for a long time. Like a few centuries. They had little ribbons they tied them up with. I heard that ages ago.
 

Jeri, thanks for that mental picture!
 

LOL, you're welcome.

He's a good one from Wiki:

"...the 1605 theological publication De iustitia et iure (On justice and law) by Catholic theologian Leonardus Lessius, who condemned them as immoral.[1]:56 In 1666, the English Birth Rate Commission attributed a recent downward fertility rate to use of "condons", the first documented use of that word (or any similar spelling)"
 

It always makes more sense to keep the cows in the pasture then letting them through the gate to wander aimlessly hither and yon.
 

I was just thinking it was funny how quick both the church and the government weighed in on the subject.
 

Yeah, that is funny. I always have wondered what they tell proper young ladies about sex (besides don't do it until you are married.)
 

Variopinta~~I watched ''Amor Real'' today, and those were interesting conversations between Matilde and Manuel and Matilde and Rosario. Matilde is very innocent and looked shocked at the news that a birth could be prevented. I also think there was a conversation awhile ago between Antonia and her nana . The nana did a lot of pushing to get Antonia to seduce Manuel and to try to have his baby. I think in that conversation, Antonia said that Manuel was a doctor so he knew what to do to not get her pregnant. Do you remember a conversation like that ?
 

''scruffy looking nerfherder''

HA
 

mad bess, that's exactly what I remember & today we know what Manuel meant.

Looks like tomorrow Antonia & Damiana are going to get it from Manuel & maybe finally he & Matilde can have a life w/o so much jealousy.

I love this novela, just could do w/o so much crying from Matilde. Why does every novela have to have an over the top crier?
 

BTW mad bess,
here is a link where I read recaps on Amor Real. They have it in Spanish & one in English. I like the Spanish one, they recap very completely & I have a chance to ck my dictionary before watching.

http://foro.telenovela-world.com/~diane/amorreal/SumUniv2.HTM
 

I have Amor Real on DVD and will watch that because after two weeks or so of Maltilde's crying, it was too much for me. I know I missed a great novela and Ernesto Largardia as her weak brother, Humberto, was fabulous but I had to stop.

GinCA
 

Thanks so much Kat, Capitana JR, Jardinera and others for your fab recaps. Keel-hauler, I appreciated your detailed recap of this episode because about halfway through the audio decided to be from another show entirely. So CJ as the visual and something else as the aural, very weird.

Sylvia, also loving Amor Real and fast forwarding through Matilde's sniveling but liking her a lot anyway and wanting to see her b**ch slap Antonia big time.
 

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