Wednesday, October 27, 2010
El Clon, Wed., October 27 - Summary for Discussion
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Jade is an idiot, doesn't she know that it takes money to live in Fez? She is like a butterfly flitting from one thing to the next.
The Chump is a fool, does he think that a few cheap flowers will do the trick with Clara after what he has done?
Rosemary
It's true, virtually all the young women on this show are backless or strapless or at least form fitting but poor Anita gets to wear the same blah-colored shapeless dress every day.
How i'd like to see the show end
Author: new impostor-free name (---)
Date: 10-27-10 05:09 PDT
Here goes:
Fernando - send him into the military.
Paula - just put her on a boat and send the boat into the ocean, where it lands is her new home.
Lucas/Said - should have to just fight. Have them both train with Alejandro and Pablo then put them in the octagon.
Albieri - shower/deodorant/jail!
Anita - she should be given a Macy's gift card and be allowed to buy some outfits.
Nati - send her to a convent.
Karla con K - send her to live with Tio Abdul.
Actually maybe Nati and Alicia should also be sent to live with Tio Abdul.
Clara - she should dump Rogelio and i get to marry her. But if she doesn't want to, i'll marry Vicki instead.
But if Vicki doesn't want to ... Nazira!?!?!
Jade's plan to flee to Fez with Jadiyah makes as little sense as almost all her other plans. And no, I strongly doubt that she has Jadiyah's passport. Even if Telenovela Airlines doesn't ask for it, Moroccan passport control will.
If Jade and Jadiyah somehow do manage to enter the country, perhaps they can get work as belly dancers. While I was there, I went to one restaurant that had a belly dancer, and she wasn't anywhere near as good as Jade (or even Jadiyah).
I was surprised to read what you said about the crack baby being a myth. I hadn't heard that. Of course, Wikipedia isn't exactly the most reliable source, but....
The posting you provided from TN World was terrific. The one place I disagreed with the suggestions was putting Tio Abdul in charge of sKanK Karla. The hypocritical Tio Abdul would probably be mesmerized by her. He's most effective in subduing timid women who fear him. I suspect Karla would just use her sex appeal to enthrall him.
So here we are, two days to go, and almost all the plot elements still unresolved. I wonder which ones will simply remain hanging at the end. Lots, I fear.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't see much resolution by the 4th day of the last week. What the heck...?
Regarding the "clash" of the titans that I waited so long for, we certainly were robbed/shortchanged. I'm still pouting, actually.
And Jade's current plan makes no sense at all. Could she have something up her sleeve?
So many characters, so little time!
Am I the only one who loved this episode? Maybe we only got to see the first slap fired in the Clash of the Titans, but the set-up and Clara's (and Leo's) reactions were perfect.
I also loved seeing Villegas sticking a pin in Albieri's ego with his "So what?" reaction to the Great One's accomplishment.
And the courtroom scene with snippets of Albieri, Luisa and Rosa testifying -- did anyone else's mind stray to Perry Mason, circa 1957 and the stock cast of homely shifty characters who always seem to end up on the witness stand?
I found it hard to pay attention to the dialogue in the Latifa-Samira scene because I was so distracted by the huge, golden, amoebas hanging from Latifa's ears.
Crack babies a myth? Well, always hard to argue with Wikipedia, but if anyone wants to read about it, check out this list of references the American College of OBGYNs makes available to the public:
http://tinyurl.com/23lzzep
You also didn't put into the recap the full extent of the conversation Lucas had with Mama Rosa. She asked him if he was going to go after Jade and he answered that he wouldn't because he didn't want to make her promises that he then can't keep. It was an important scene because it gave the impression to the viewers that Lucas wasn't be critical to Jade's fate.
Lucas has said so many things about Jade and done so few, I admit that I omitted that part of his conversation with Rosa.
Not only is the continuity horrible but the writing makes me think if they recruited a bunch of monkeys we have more logical plots resolved and told much more better than this crap they're trying to shove down our throats.
Granted it's make believe and a novela and you have to suspend a little logic but this?
Jade wants to kidnap her own daughter to Fez no job, her family has disown her and the one guy who is rich and wants to marry her she says no? Ok i no she doesn't love Zein but what has she ever done in this whole novela that makes any type of sense?
The three drugged out zombies are running amok still and are going to rob more people minus the one who gave birth. Yet in still all three still need to be locked up for a long time.
The clone story that what Albieri wasn't exactly illegal but yet and still without consent from Lucas he stole his DNA cells and then put them into Dora without her consent? He gets off scott free?
The skanks illegally stealing Roberto's sperm so are they going to get away with this nonsense?
This is enough to drive anyone to drink, maybe that's why they had so much of a strong drug references throughout this novela. Either the writers were taking some serious stuff to produce this nonsense and they knew if was going to drive the audience to drink watching this.
Finally i'm with NovelaMaven i did get enjoyment from Cris slapping Malicia and the looks of glee on Clara face and Leo barely containing his and it seem he was a little exited that his woman was dishing out a serious beat down to the rat skank. But i also agree with others they could have showed us more of the fight though. Here's hoping that next time we see Malicia she's sporting two raccoon like black eyes, a couple of missing teeth upfront and her neck in a neck brace.That will at least confirm to me that Cris put a hurting on the resident skank maybe she think twice before she ever calls Leo up again.
Rosa asked Lucas if he HAD gotten back together with Jade (¿Volviste con Jade?) and not if he was GOING TO get back with her (Vas a volver/volverás/vuelvas con Jade?)
His answer: no, he doesn't want to make promises he can't keep. But as soon as the trial is over, he's leaving.
There's a bit of ambiguity in his answer: He just says he's going away (me voy), not that he's going to pursue Jade. But I understood it to mean he would then be completely free to go after the love of his life.
Blu,
Even though just about everything you say is true, for some reason my Crapometer is hardly registering. Maybe I've tightened my beanie too much and it has finally interfered with the blood flow to my brain. hahaha
"Who cares" about Enrique's kids? Exactly. It could only be interesting if it turns out it's someone we already know, like Paula.
I also found it amusing that Rosa is happily serving Cristina. They're both pretty mercurial.
Why would Jade go to Fez? That's exactly what we were wondering here. It's a typical Jade plan: 1. leap, 2. look, 3. blame Lucas.
"We wuz robbed!!" Totally. This is supposed to pay off several storylines. No poetic justice? No cartoon violence? Oh well. Can't say I'm surprised the ending is rushed.
And why was it revealed now that cloning wasn't illegal when Albieri did it? That contradicts what we were led to believe for the whole show.
On Nati's health: I was also thinking she was malnourished. She never used to eat. Anyway, she also drank and did who knows what else to harm the kid. Scot free?
By the way, further proof that Rania can't do anything right: the special party she threw Jadiyah was just her cousins and her two pals dancing with Tía Nazira.
I was a bit surprised the DNA test for Roberto came out positive. Now part of the last two episodes will be wasted on that storyline.
One thing I liked, a little, was Karla in court. Her cartoonish qualities are funny in a serious context, much like when Daniel was asking her serious questions about cloning.
As LukeM has said it's hard seeing them trying to live up to expectations it had set.
Are we sure this novela wasn't meant to be shown on Univision instead of Telemundo? Think about it seriously it does fit what they usually produce on that channel doesn't it?
The previews that we saw from last night's episodes look interesting but i'm sure once we see the full episode we'll be saying what in the world were they thinking when they wrote this?
In fact, I cut my sleep short last night because I DON'T miss Spanish class ever because it's such fun. But when I got home at 9:45 I still had to watch my DVR of the last four innings of the Giants/Rangers and I STILL watched El Clon. GO GIANTS!!!
One thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Rogelio told Malicia that Escobar's name was on the escrituras (deed). If he put the apartment in her name, as they've been saying all along, why wouldn't her name be on the deed?
I never, never liked Luisa. Remember way back when she moved into Albieri's apartment while he was in Morocco, trying to snare him? Then she's coddled and spoiled him this whole time. But, one suspicion of another woman and she goes postal. Of course, that's what such an obsessive character WOULD do. Just saying ... never liked her.
I was stunned that the sKanKs plan seems to have worked. I simply can't believe you could smuggle out day-old semen and impregnate someone with it. Probably the cousin (forget her name) will confess, or maybe even Karla.
Yes, we wuz robbed!! I wanted many more slaps from Cris.
Whoops, I almost forgot to thank you so much, Jean, for your excellent and very accurate recap.
But, really, can such a thing be done as to collect sperm by a lay person and inseminate one...???? To me it seems an impossible feat. Even doctors many times don't have success inseminating their patients.
I hope we haven't seen the end of Malicia getting her comeuppance.
I had to laugh at Nati wanting to breast feed her baby. She's flat as a board. Also, how can she consider such a thing after the way she's been carrying on. But anything goes in TNs. Ha! Ha!
As for Jade, she is a lost cause. She's a dreamer and has absolutely no sense.
Ann-NYC
I hope we're not finished with Cristina v Malicia. Somehow, she has to be made to return the apartment to the Chump or Clara. (I would think.)
I was also very surprised that the sKanks' scheme worked. We don't have much time for that story to develop.
Is this the happy ending of the Nati/Alej story? If so, why did we have to go through months of agony only to see a miracle happy ending - healthy baby/Nati off drugs.
Whatever, we're almost there. Just to let everyone know, NovelaMaven and I are double teaming the Gran Final. She is recapping the first hour. I'm doing the second with pictures for both.
The thing that bugs me about the Malicia story is that after months of her lies working perfectly, suddenly exactly the same strategy doesn't work at all, and with no great revelations explaining the loss of trust.
Well, I'm looking forward to the final episodes anyway, if only for the discussion here!
The word Rogelio used was 'escritura,' which literally means a 'writing' but does mean a 'deed' in legal terms. There is an 'escritura de propriedad,' a property deed and an 'escritura de traspaso,' a transfer deed.
Maybe Rogelio saw the deed where the Chump transferred the title of the property to Malicia.
Do-it-yourself artificial inseminations can work pretty well and aren't all that rare. What is hard to believe here is that the... um... specimen was still usable by the time it reached the sKank. It suggests an even ickier scenario than we thought -- namely that Consuelo hovered outside the bedroom and reclaimed her prize almost instantly. ¡Guácala!
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Even if Roberto is vindicated because Consuelo rats on the sKanks or Karla confesses, I wonder what will happen to Roberto, Jr...
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As others have already said, I expect Malicia to take a few more lumps before we're done.
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Novelera, I can't stand Luisa either. She's so awful, she almost -- but not quite -- makes you feel sorry for Albieri.
N.M.--I hear you about the big golden amoeba earrings. What has been bugging me all along is that sometimes Latifah wears them facing one way, sometimes the other way. Guess my mind is wandering...
Joan
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