Tuesday, March 01, 2011

La Verdad Oculta #115: Carlos makes his moves


Adolfo runs to Yolanda's condo where the maid, Juanita, reports she left hours ago and without a customary note; in Yolanda's bedroom, he finds everything normal, except her cell phone remaining on the night stand. Using her speed dial, Adolfo gets Carlos, who jerks his chain with a chuckle, accusing Adolfo of some new offense to her.

In the kitchen at Mario's, Asunción practices reading, making Caramelo proud, who loves him regardless. On her way up to bed, Caramelo matchmakes a bit with Dora, enlisting her to help Asunción with his studies. Arriving back in the penthouse, Adolfo manhandles startled Bertha about spilling crucial details to crooks.

He throws Bertha out for stupidity, who shouts this is the last time that's going to happen as she exits; while behind, Adolfo agonizes over Yolanda's whereabouts. In Mario's kitchen, pleasantly surprised Asunción is tickled to have Dora help him with reading, over a cup of tea; while pint-sized matchmaker Caramelo nods in approval behind the door.

At the AFI, Leonardo's underwhelmed when Adolfo demands he find disappeared Yolanda, sure it's another crime of Adolfo; but at Adolfo's rough insistence and the doctored Hernández photo, Leonardo assures him he will investigate if she's really kidnapped. But he points out, such things are risks run by doing business with criminals.

Criminals such as Édgar Lopez, he adds. Leonardo disconcerts Adolfo by revealing he has the Juan José murder attempt weapon -- with Adolfo's fingerprints on it, bringing on a flashback of handing the weapon to Hernández. At Elsa's, she continues with her self-flagellation, maintaining nobody really cares about her.

She tells Ulises she won't take Mauricio's calls, certain he just feels pity for her; and Ulises assures her he himself really cares about her as a friend. But when Elsa contends her life feels out of sorts, Ulises divines she means out of sorts -- not with life, but with Juan José.

When Adolfo takes the doctored Hernández photo to Dante's, Dante wonders if Hernández hasn't conspired with Leonardo and turned Yolanda over to the Genovéses, which revelation makes Adolfo rise and swear to kill all of them: Mario, the son and that b**** waitress. Instead of rushing the house, though, he'll fight fire with fire.

At dinner at the Mirador, Carlos isn't buying it when Yolanda tries to impress him how proud his mother would be; he rejects justifying that she simply didn't want him, and that's it. Yolanda compares his mother's actions to her own, whom no one understands; but that she has her reasons -- that will come out at the proper time.

In the kitchen at Mario's, Gabriela and David have another escalating argument over his supposed secrecy and her indignation that everybody treats her like a dope; and things are worsening between them. Across town, Bertha pounds on Carlos's condo door begging to be let in, and he relents and does so.

She pleads for his help after being ejected for spilling the beans to Hernández, which amazes and distresses Carlos; and she must explain she was drunk, depressed and lonely at the time. Bitterly sobbing that all she wanted was a bit of financial security -- and what she got was everybody kicking her to the curb, Carlos thaws a little and exits to make her a cup of tea.

At Mario's, David and Dora promise each other to stay together from now on, no matter what. Back at Carlos's, teacup in hand, Bertha notes with self-deprecation that she behaved so badly to him and he so good to her; only Carlos would open the door to her, and she can hardly face him. She admits that she deserved the slap by Mina, in every way a better person than she.

When Bertha laments she's the worst person, Carlos points out there's no point in comparing herself; everyone is just like they are -- or rather like they want to be. She's suffering the consequences of her decisions. When he bitterly observes she'd rather marry his dad than have the love he offered, Bertha tries to explain.

She did it feeling threatened, she says, which Carlos dismisses. Didn't she think how deeply it wounded him to see her with his father? Confused Bertha offers she really had no idea why she accepted; she thought maybe it was a love she felt, which Carlos turns on her: yes, a love -- but for money.

Frustrated Bertha can't explain with words why she abandoned Carlos for Adolfo, and she must admit his accusation that she's ambitious; but when she cries that she's ambitious -- but not bad, Carlos has decided now that she is indeed bad -- and superficial and selfish! The worst is she didn't even leave Carlos for Adolfo, but rather for his money!

He strikes out bitterly that she left him for a load of cash and jewels! He's about to boot Bertha out again, when Bertha shakes her head and cries that no matter what, she still loves Carlos. He's still the love of her life, she swears.

Shocked Carlos is realizing Bertha has a more sinister weapon than he ever thought; and she takes up his hands and begs him to look into her eyes for the proof: they've both suffered and understand each other with just a glance. They've both been victims of his father and know the sorrow he's caused.

Bertha's begging him with her heart in hand, she says; and Carlos is watching and listening when she insists she truly still loves and desires him, despite all her damned ambition. And despite her shamelessness, Carlos admits, he still loves her, too; which makes relieved Bertha ecstatic, and Carlos kisses her.

In the sack at Juan José's, Alejandra frets that the ends of their current actions don't justify the means; and that if they back Adolfo into a corner, he's going to do something desperate. But Juan José blows off her concerns, insisting the three musketeers can handle anything he can bring.

Across town at a pool hall, Édgar explains to Valentín that the infamous shoes and murder DVD's are their life insurance against being next on Adolfo's list. Later at Carlos's, in bed with Bertha, he has now to consider Mina; who coincidentally phones while he's in the shower -- and gets some rude news from Bertha, who takes Mina's message that Carlos should go directly to hell.

Bertha conveniently fails to inform Carlos of her phone call. Presently, Alejandra is awakened by inconsolable Mina, informing her of that harpy b**** of a sister of hers and pig Carlos. Later, at the Mirador, Carlos catches Yolanda phoning Juanita and brusquely hangs her up, berating her for leaving a trail for Adolfo.

Carlos orders her to pack; while immediately in her condo, Adolfo reads the caller I.D. and discovers from the Mirador number with disgust that his suspicions about the kidnapping must be true. On their way out of the Mirador, Carlos anxiously reminds Yolanda that Adolfo already kidnapped her once, and she wonders when life will ever be normal.

But Yolanda is grateful Carlos loves her, and they embrace as they exit. Before long, Adolfo arrives and bribes a janitor to confirm a woman of Yolanda's description checked in, but just exited. Carlos deposits Yolanda at Juan José's and explains the situation; while at Dante's, Adolfo orders Édgar and Valentín to case Mario's neighborhood.

At Juan José's, he surprises Carlos with the bad news of Mina's reaction to Bertha; and Carlos promises to explain later. Carlos appears at Alejandra's architectural studio to apologize to bitterly sobbing Mina. She doesn't really want to hear it, but he confirms that although he'd been thinking his feelings for Bertha would be superficial -- they were not.

He assures Mina he cares about her a lot, and the last thing he wanted to do was hurt her; but he also doesn't want to keep her in the dark. Carlos asks her forgiveness, but Mina gives him a loud boot, leaving her weeping piteously and wondering to Alejandra why she was so stupid as to fall in love with him.

At a restaurant, Elsa confirms she can have nothing with Juan José, but also shouldn't go out with Mauricio for spite. Ulises counsels her to take time to figure what matters -- and assures her that she truly matters to Mauricio. Meanwhile, Édgar watches outside Juan José's house as Carlos enters.

Inside, Carlos explains to Alejandra and Juan José that he loves Bertha and that it's difficult when your brain tells you one thing and your heart another. He knows sooner or later he would have gone back with her anyway. Alejandra is happy if her sister is changing, but cautions against telling her their plans.

Carlos assures them that he may love Bertha, but he still doesn't trust her and won't say anything. Outside when Édgar reports Carlos arriving at Juan José's, Adolfo deduces his son is in on the kidnapping; and so feels better about it, knowing Carlos would never hurt her. Adolfo orders Édgar to wait for his instructions.

At the AFI, Ramón surprises Leonardo with news of Hernandéz's corpse encountered in a dumpster; and Leonardo exits immediately to speak with Adolfo, whom he suspects. Upstairs at Juan José's, Carlos insists to Yolanda that Adolfo's weak now and can't defend against his enemies, so she assents to another few days of hiding.

Carlos makes it much easier by offering to take Yolanda to Mario's to see the kids, whom she adores; they recall to her Carlos as a child. When Carlos mentions he can't take her to his place, since Bertha is there, Yolanda realizes Carlos loves Bertha a lot -- which he confirms, like no one else ever in his life.

When Yolanda points out she's his father's wife, Carlos assures her they are going to fix that right quick. Across the alley at Mario's, Gabriela's furious she once again can't raise David at work and drags Julieta with her through the tunnel to catch a taxi from in front of the tunnel house to confront David at the hotel.

Watching them and reporting their movements is Édgar, who follows in his car as the two sisters climb into a taxi; which we suddenly see is driven by none other than Valentín. They're wondering who the driver's phoning about their whereabouts when Édgar launches himself into the back seat, gun drawn, and making the girls scream their heads off.

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It was an insulting episode for dogs of the female persuasion and the porcine family.

Here are the You Tube links for Episode 115:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

No part 5

If anyone can find a Part 5, please post; thanks!
 

Jeri, found this video.

Part 5 starts at 4:49.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHkd6iIVFTQ

Margaret
 

Aribeth and Vivi, thank you for the wonderful recaps which I just read. You both are so talented - your fresh perspectives truly bring these episodes to life for us. Aribeth, wishing you a wonderful trip.

Jeri, your recap was a bright beacon of light for this sad, mirthless episode. Your apt, subtle, perfectly chosen words were welcome and appreciated: "jerks his chain with a chuckle" and "...pint-sized matchmaker Caramelo nods in approval" were my favorites.

You masterfully stated the truth. As much as many of us would have liked it sugar coated or glossed over, you reiterated the painful facts: "Carlos explains to Alejandra and Juan José that he loves Bertha and that it's difficult when your brain tells you one thing and your heart another. He knows sooner or later he would have gone back with her anyway". Harsh and difficult to absorb, especially even after their reconciliation, she cackles evilly to Mina, ensuring her heartache and desperation.

And Elsa, deep in "self-flagellation". Perhaps her fate is that her unrequited love for JJ to last in perpetuity. Ack.

It still hasn't occurred to Leo that the real Hernandez might be out? I'm sure things will come to a head with the latest kidnapping. Juli and Gabi seemed terrified. As well they should.

Thanks again Jeri.

Diana
 

Jeri, of course "It was an insulting episode for dogs of the female persuasion and the porcine family" may have been the best line yet - definitely sidebar worthy.

Diana
 

Jeri,

Thanks for the recap, your reference to dogs and pigs in the comment section was priceless. Most of all thanks for your powers of observation in leading us down the bread crumb path. I took the reconciliation of Carlos and Bertha with a sad shake of the head rather than tearful disbelief! You have been a dream commenter, as has everyone else around LVO.

Well the “writers” need to stop toying with Gabi. They have turned her into a hateful shrew. Poor David, he has given a lot and has gotten little in return. If she were a real person, I’d worry about her marriage. Loud angry words seldom solve problems.

I’m afraid I haven’t seen Elsa clearly as well. I have always been in her corner, but this last pitiful “poor little me” routine was painful. She has EVERYTHING, her youth and health, a wonderful man, the promise of a full and vibrant future, her understanding friend Ulises, a shared relationship with Caramelo and she can only sit around and pout. The writers need to help her out as well, or maybe I need to watch her story line at night with a glass of wine!

I’m feeling a little sad that our novela is coming to an end!!!!
 

Margaret, thank you so much for finding Part 5 at You Tube!

Diana and Sandy, I'm glad to help. I spent more time on this difficult ep; the resolution of Carlos and Bertha was not easy, but I think they made it realistic and nuanced.

There could really be no other resolution for two flawed characters like them. And I think LVO did a good job on it.

I'm still thinking Bertha marrying Adolfo will in effect get Carlos his inheritance back, as Adolfo may not have time to divorce Bertha before he gets to his lawyer, due to someone killing him.

Gabriela's situation is not that farfetched in light of the fact everybody has been keeping stuff from her; this is like a delayed reaction to the ridiculous charade Santiago just dropped in her lap.

She basically had no visible reaction to it, except mistrust of everybody -- which turns out to be deep, in fact.

Yeah...Elsa. I haven't given up the idea of Mina and Mauricio; it would put a satisfying resolution on what happened to her with Carlos.

Everybody likes Mina, and we all want to see her happy. Elsa doesn't love Mauricio, IMO. She said it: her heart is already taken.

If they make her have a change of heart, I will be interested to see how they do it. But I'm thinking Mina and Mauricio.
 

Jeri- Thank you so much for an entertaining recap of an episode that had more lows than highs. I like your explanation of why Gabi would be reacting to David with so much suspicion, but it just seems like the writers used it as a reason for her to sneak out of the house and get herself kidnapped. Which David will eventually think is his fault for keeping her in the dark, and for angering Adolfo to strike back because of their stupid fake kidnap plan.

Sandy- I also gave a sad shake of the head to the Carlos and Bertha reconciliation and Mina heartbreak, but I wasn't surprised. And it is realistic. I think it's quite sad though that you can't trust the person you love. I agree that if Elsa can't get herself together, then Mau should move on to Mina. Stop the pity party Elsa!

I thought Cara's matchmaking was sweet. :)
 

Oh, yeah...Diana: Leonardo knows Hernández is out. They found his body in a dumpster, and Leonardo suspects Adolfo did it and is going to question him. (It's in the recap; is this what you meant...not sure.)
 

Vivi, reading recent comments, it sounds like you have a full life going on there; congratulations on your good work.

Regarding Gabriela, thinking about it, they could have made just about any excuse to get her and Julieta kidnapped. It wouldn't have been that hard. Neither one of them do as their told; this even illustrates that.

And David would still have the same amount of guilt for pushing Adolfo's back to the wall, as Alejandra so astutely put it to Juan José, who just brushed her off with a facile denial. He's going to regret that, too, I'm thinking.

So, it's not altogether implausible; in fact, I was surprised the day of Santiago's reveal that her reaction was so anticlimactic. This is kinda good.
 

Jeri, I have to stutter and sputter that I was so upset over the Bertha/Carlos reconciliation that I completely missed your sentence about Hernandez' body being found. My bad. :)

Mina and Mauricio as a couple has always made a lot of sense. But, I would hate for Elsa to end up alone. I have a soft spot for her and cannot fault her (too much) for her self-indulgent pity. We all want to love who love us but real life often dictates we often yearn for those who don't.

Diana
 

Yeah...lately here Elsa has been showing signs that she thinks she is "ruined" by life. It's odd, since she didn't feel that way when she was in sales and had her own place. But then she was all that time harboring a love for Juan José, too.

Elsa did have a pretty terrible early life, and she seems to be dwelling on it; and Marcos's situation doesn't help, I'm sure. She probably still loves her brother.
 

Great recap Jeri.

I have to confess something: just like Aribeth has her own feelings on Elsa, I have the same for Mina. I don't dislike her but I just don't care about her at all, she is just... there. It's both the character and the actress. I want to feel bad for her but she knew how messed up Carlos was and I think there were red flags all along in that relationship.

I think Elsa is depressed and I think that started when she was sent to prison. She was already suceptible to depression before because of her type of personality but once she was jailed and lost Caramelo she fell into that hole of self-pity and darkness. I think she latched onto Mauricio because she realized he was the one who has stood by her side all along but she didn't love him and that stopped her from being actually happy with him thus adding to the self-pity instead of being a source of real happiness. I think Elsa needs to find something that actually makes her happy but it's hard to see the how's when you are at the point where she is.

By the way, if you are reading this Aribeth: Did you read the ratings for the Teresa finale? It beat the STuD finale for more than two points! And I heard that it beat the Dinero and MEPS's finales! All this even though it was competing with the Oscars. It's been commented in every show here.

Jarocha
 

Well, that's interesting, Jarocha! Teresa is sounding more and more interesting.

Regarding Mina, I thought she kind of had it coming in regard to Carlos, too; she knew he was on the rebound and wasn't cautious at all. She said it: why oh why did she fall in love with him! I don't the heck know.

All along she's been acting humorously desperate, man wise; and I thought it was just kind of a joke, too. But turns out she is actually kind of a dope. I know I would not have cried that way about him.
 

I agree Jeri. They didn't even go out that long, maybe it's just me but I can't fall inlove in two(three?) dates.

And yes, it was very interesting that Teresa had such high ratings. I was expecting good numbers but when I heard about the finel results I was completely shocked. Mostly because it was on at 6 pm here and, while it had a good following, that's a terrible timeslot to pick viewers. But I think many people watched it on the deferred channel and on the internet and then they all had a chance to watch it live on sunday. To me, this is just an example of how unfair is Televisa when choosing the novelas that get the 9 pm slot. Now La Fuerza del Destino, which looks awesome, is going to be saddled with the 7 pm timeslot while Triunfo del Amor continues with the privileged place.

Jarocha
 

Thanks so much Jeri! Wonderful as always!

I was truly disappointed with Carlos getting back together with Bertha. I thought he was smarter than that. He doesn't seem to realize that if his father hadn't kicked her out Bertha would still be with Adolfo. I don't buy it for a moment that Bertha really loves Carlos. He was just a convenient place to run to. How will the writers will resolve the problem with Carlos' new-found sisters? Gabi and Juli don't have a shred of love or respect for Bertha. There's also the little problem with Bertha lying at her deposition. Isn't perjury a crime in Mexico?

Elsa. (Sigh.) I like Elsa, but she needs to get away for a while to clear her head. I don't know if Ulises is helping or hindering at this point.
 

Jarocha, thanks for the info on La Fuerza. Not only does it have Gabe Soto, but Leticia Calderon, Laisha Wilkins and Marcelo Cordoba. What a cast!

I can't wait for Teresa either!

Excellent!

Diana
 

Here is the cast and crew of LFDD, from the following website:

http://www.seriesnow.com/mexican-telenovelas/fuerzadeldestinola.html

Sandra Echeverría ... Lucía
Gabriel Soto ... Camilo
David Zepeda ... Ivan
Alejandro Tommasi ... Gerardo
María Rubio
Laisha Wilkins ... Mari Paz
Leticia Calderón ... Alicia
Kika Edgar ... Carolina
Ferdinando Valencia ... Saúl
Marcelo Córdoba ... Antolín
Claudia Ramírez
Pedro Armendáriz Jr. ... Anthony McWire
Rosa María Bianchi ... Antonieta
Delia Casanova ... Carlota
Lucero Lander ... Esther
Juan Ferrara ... Juan Jaime Mondragón
Adriano Zendejas
Jauma Mateo ... Daniel
Leticia Perdigón ... Arceli
José Montini ... “El Gordo”
Yuliana Peniche ... Carmen

Writing credits
María Zarattini (original story)

Song:
Written by:
Singing: Marc Anthony

Original music

Cinematography by

Language : Spanish
Country: Mexico

Directed by
Benjamin Cann

Produced by
Rosy Ocampo
 

The main character is actually David Zepeda's. That has been clarified by Sandra Echeverría. She appears later in the story (as herslef, her character is played by a couple of younger actresses at the beginning).

From what I gather there are two different times in the backstory:

The first in which the weight will fall on Lety Calderón, Juan Ferrara, Rosa María Bianchi and Alejandro Tomassi.

The second in which will have David Zepeda, Laisha Wilkins, Marcelo Córdoba and Gabriel Soto sharing the weight of that part.

And the main story where those characteres will continue and Sandra Echeverría will enter, along with Kika Edgar, Ferdinando Valencia, Yuliana Peniche, etc.

Jarocha
 

Someone was saying where David Zepeda would be a galan instead of an antagonist for once. I haven't seen him in a lot; so I gather he's usually an antagonist.

What do you think of Rosy Ocampo as the producer? Most people know her from LFMB, but the last time I saw her was Tontas, which was kinda tedious. I like her, but sometimes her kid-propensity shows too much in adult shows.

I like Benjamin Cann as director. He's got a good directing resume:

La fuerza del destino (TV series) (filming)

2010 Los exitosos Pérez (TV series)

2007-2008 Sexo y otros secretos (TV series)

2007-2008 Palabra de mujer (TV series)

2007 Teletón XI (TV movie)

2006 Teletón X (TV documentary)

2006 Código postal (TV series)

2005 Mujeres (TV series)

2005 Piel de estrellas (TV documentary)

2004 Apuesta por un amor (TV series)

2004 Rubí... La descarada (TV movie)

2004 Rubí (TV series)

2004 My Love, My Sin (TV series)

2002 La otra (TV series)

2001 Teletón V (TV movie)

2000 Teletón (TV movie)

2000 Crónica de un desayuno

1999 DKDA: Sueños de juventud (TV series)

1999 Teleton (TV movie)

1997-1998 Mujer, casos de la vida real (TV series)

1998 Una luz en el camino (TV series)

1997 Pueblo chico, infierno grande (TV series)

1996 La sombra del otro (TV series)

etc.
 

Loved the recap Jeri. Just as I thought. JJ and the gang have underestimated Adolfo. They didn't think he would figure out their involvement in Yolanda's kidnapping and now in a tit for tat move, Gabi and Juli have been kidnapped. All of this could have been avoided if David had just explained to Gabi what they were doing and also informed Leo who for sure is going to hit the roof when he finds out.

Poor Mina. I felt bad for her when Bertha rubbed it in her face that she and Carlos were reunited and it felt so good.

I wonder since Elsa is still unsure about Mau with her lingering feelings for JJ if Mau and Mina will hook up.
 

Jeri: I like Cann, I think he is very good and I especially liked his work in La Otra.

Rosy seems to be restraining herself from using kids here (except in the backstory of course). I think with a writer like Zarattini and a director like Cann she'll do well. Those two are very experienced and Zarattini is very specific about what she writes, they have already stated that the story will be 100 episodes only so I doubt there's much that could be added. Unfortunately LFMB and Tontas suffered from extensions and meddling where Ocampo added what she was used to (from her work in novelas for kids).

Jarocha
 

Pirate Babe, indeed, Adolfo and Dante figured that out right quick. The boyz have a ways to go before they're as devious as the crime bosses.

Jarocha, short novelas are my favorites. I'm so glad to hear that. Or should I say "regular length" ones, which have become short in comparison to the monsters some of these turn into.

Yes, I always associated Benjamin Cann with La Otra, too; but I also liked Apuesta Por Un Amor, which was kinda underrated, unfortunately. Fabulous cast and location. Pueblo Chico was an insane surreal romp, which was fun.
 

Jeri: Did you know Pueblo Chico was actually based on a true story? Producer Jose Alberto Castro (Ángela, Rubí, Teresa) asked a script writer to adapt the life of his great aunt for the screen and most of the characteres where based on real people. That's why none of them got happy endings.

Jarocha
 

And also, that's why his sister Verónica Castro played her. Since they were very simmilar looking.

Jarocha
 

Thanks Jeri. I can easily see David Zepeda as a galan due to his sometimes conflicted perfomance in STuD. I'm happy he is being given the opportunity. I think he's an excellent actor and shows vulnerability and tenderness well.

Diana
 

Jeri, thanks so much. It's always a pleasure to read your very well written recaps. Yes, doggies and piggies should be insulted for being compared to Bertha and Carlos. LOL. Bertha certainly hasn't reformed completely with her rude cruel remarks to Mina. Now, if only, Mina had talked to Bertha in person again. I think we might have seen some hair pulling.

I guess things had to deteriorate for the big climactic finale but I wish the guys were a little brighter. J J is worse the longer he is out of prison. What has happened to calm reasoned J J. Ale isn't pushing J J hard enough to do the right thing. David has stopped progressing. Usually cautious Gabi and Juli are taking off on their own to nag and harrass poor David.

On the bright side Dora has bravely come forth and Asuncion is learning to read and the two seemed destined for a nice friendship or perhaps a romantic relationship. Caramelo will have a grandma figure to add to her list.

Since Carlos and Bertha have done their share of unlawful and selfish acts, they seem to belong together, He is just ahead of her in transforming himself. ZHope she catches up soon. Poor unloved Mina and Mau. Hope they are a couple in the end.

GinCA
 

Diana, people do seem to talk about him and like him alot.

Jarocha, I did not know that; it explains some things. It's an unusual story. So the woman did have a younger lover?

The thing I most remember about it is that the show touched on just about every type of perversion available -- but in such a surreal way that it was like a fantasy.
 

Yes, and she was forced to marry an old guy. But the younger lover is not a new thing here, it was just not talked about back then.

God, the stories people share about the first part of the twentieth century are great. I think both of my grandmas could make interesting novelas too.

Jarocha
 

Jarocha, they're not a new thing here either. My husband of 25 years is 13 years younger than I am. We met when I was 34 and he 21.

Always interested in those types of relationships; I just wish they would work out as well as ours has. Usually they don't in drama, for some reason.
 

Jarocha, was Ana Brenda good in Teresa? I really like her. I watched the first 20 minutes that were posted online and thought it had promise except for the sound quality.

I watched La Reina del Sol last night. It is good, but very violent as we all knew it would be. I worked to get the English CCs up because I thought the topic would interest my husband and we could watch together. I know my efforts were successful because India was subtitled in English, but La Reina in Spanish. I think I’ll need the Spanish CCs, the super fast dialogue and colloquialisms were hard to understand.

Jeri, thirteen years younger, no wonder your husband can shovel snow so well!!!
 

Thank you Jeri.

I agree xlntperuvian, if Adolfo hadn't kicked Bertha out she would still be with him. But lucky for her that Carlos likes her just the way she is and took her in.

Caramelo was real cute playing matchmaker to Asuncion and Dora.

Margaret
 

La Reina del Sur looks good, and I just love watching Kate del Castillo. I will have to find the episodes online. I just hope that Telemundo doesn't ruin this one as well. Telemundo has that tendancy with their novelas.

Margaret
 

Jeri--again your rich vocabulary enhances our enjoyment of this great show.

Did I miss something? When was it decided to kidnap Gabi & Juli? I thought Dante/Adolfo had decided that they couldn't rescue Yolanda because the house was so heavily guarded and they were merely to keep an eye on the place.

Loved all of everyone's comments on Bertha and Carlos--I was kinda disappointed that Carlos caved in so quick, but of course we don't have too many episodes left.

I think at this point Elsa is going to be left alone--who wants such a sad-sack around.

Gabi was reckless leaving the house the way she did. She didn't even take her purse--what was she going to pay the taxi with--and this is a residential section, how many taxis just happen around the corner. Oh, that's right, it's a telenovela. Fortunately Juli has her purse (maybe with phone inside), but with Edgar in the back seat, it won't do her much good.

Why did we need this kidnapping, anyway? Asked and answered--maybe to let JJ know that the 3 Musketeers are not so invulnerable after all. I wonder how long it will take the boys to realize they are missing or will they get a phone call from the deadly duo first.

Thanks for all the information on the next run of novelas. I'm watching Manana es Para Siempre on Telem. I don't know how many more I can sign up for. Volver Para Amar is being advertised to replace LVO. Oh, decisions, decisions.
Newbie-OK
 

Thanks to everyone for the kind words and for reading and commenting. :-)

Newbie, regarding the kidnapping decision, it's here:

"...When Adolfo takes the doctored Hernández photo to Dante's, Dante wonders if Hernández hasn't conspired with Leonardo and turned Yolanda over to the Genovéses, which revelation makes Adolfo rise and swear to kill all of them: Mario, the son and that b**** waitress. Instead of rushing the house, though, he'll fight fire with fire..."
 

JJ and Ale have a cute relationship, he is the brawn and she is the brain. She all but lectures him like a kindergarden student, then a light bulb goes off in his head and he essentially says, you’re right! I get a kick out of them. They are turning out to be the strongest couple.

Margaret, I’m in on La Reina only because of Kate del Castillo. She is very good in it, just as I expected. She must be working out a lot in real life, she looks very “buff” in this role, but that look is popular now. It will work for her in portraying the strong woman that she is advertised to be.
 

Sandy, ever since I first saw Kate in La Mentira I'm a fan. I love her looks and she has always had a good body. She probably works out which seems to be in these days. She is a great leading actress in whatever she plays.

Margaret
 

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