Saturday, April 16, 2011
El Mundo de Telemundo, Week of April 18, 2011: Discuss Amongst Yourselves
LA REINA DEL SUR: As of Friday, April 15
♪♪She is the very model of a modern major CEO ♪♪
She takes meetings and makes decisions. Her enemies and rivals track her every move. She is learning to delegate – but that lesson is coming slowly. She is trying to be dispassionate – and that lesson is coming along even more slowly.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS ABROAD:
She travels to Colombia and strikes a deal for 15 tons of cocaine. This is too much for the Russian market so Oleg arranges a meeting with the Italians -- the Camorra – who have, up to now, dealt with the Gallegos.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS AT HOME:
She gathers her inner circle and agrees to entrust the important banking to Patty’s handsome cousin, Teo. He proposes setting up accounts in Grand Cayman – a place free of the gossip and susceptibility to bribery that plague Gibraltar; and immune to European government crack-downs. This proposal sends the fuming Eddie A and his Gibraltar connections back to the kiddie table.
The fledgling company’s leadership is also clarified: Teresa will be (like W), “the decider”.
SHE MANAGES PERSONNEL:
In a private moment, she lets Conejo know why she treated her so roughly. Conejo proves to be a quick study. Later she concocts a story for the Colombian whiz kid security guy that distances her from Teresa (and appeals to Conejo’s ironic sense of humor): She says she just got out of the hospital where she was being treated for a nervous breakdown after her husband and mother-in-law died in a terrible way.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS WITH POTENTIAL ALLIES:
Teresa and Oleg, with Patty as translator, sit at a table with the Italian Camorra. The Italians try to talk over her head, addressing themselves directly to Oleg and speaking Italian without pausing to give Patty a chance to translate. They ask Oleg why he brought these women along. Teresa shoots right back: She’s the boss. If they have something to say, say it to her and Patty will translate. She explains her proposal – to transport the product from Venezuela to Casablanca in Africa; and then to Europe.
Her conditions:
No payment in drugs.
Payment must be in dollars. And in cash (en efectivo).
The Russians and Italian will split the costs.
She can offer them a price 40% less than the Gallegos are asking.
[When the Italian steps away from the table to make a phone call, Teresa whispers to Patty that she feels like she’s in a Mafia movie. Well, so do we.]
The Italian response: They don’t want war with the Gallegos. If Teresa wants their business, she’ll have to negotiate with Joaquin Perna. Remembering how the Gallegos betrayed Santiago, she flatly refuses to deal with her enemy. She leaves the table. Oleg stays behind and indicates his willingness to negotiate and promises he will talk to the Mexicana. [Clearly, she hasn’t mastered this hatred having an expiration date (fecha de caducidad) stuff yet.]
AS FOR THE ENEMIES AND RIVALS:
THE THREE STOOGES, MEXICAN STYLE
Batman realizes his matones (killers) have been captured when he phones them and gets to hear their moans and screams. And Oleg learns that “Batman” is the one who sent them.
Oleg drives Teresa to the torture chamber – an abandoned slaughterhouse? – and tells her:
La suerte de estos hombres está en tus manos.
(The fate (literally, luck) of these men is in your hands.)
She wants to kill them herself but Oleg holds her back. He tells her not to lose her self control, and not to cross that line and become a killer. She finally agrees. She remembers how Pote showed el Güero respect on that terrible night in Sinaloa. He is to be spared – taken to a hospital and then flown back to Mexico with a message for his boss. As for the other two: ¡Buen viaje al infierno! (Have a good trip to hell!)
BACK IN MEXICO
Batman tells Epifanio Vargas that the rusos have his nephew. He denies sending him to Spain – it’s just that there was no way to stop him from getting on the plane. If Ratas comes back to Mexico, it will likely be feet first (con los pies por delante).
Epi tells the Rat’s mother her boy is in trouble.
THE POLICIA
Willy Rangel, DEA agent (and for me, the only false casting note so far in this series) is in Spain. He and Flores, along with Flores’s current crooked boss, meet in a hotel bar and talk about their obsessive Teresa-hunting. Willy admits to a grudging admiration for his prey. Even more crooked ex-boss Juarez, now a soplón (informer) for Oleg, comes along, makes Willy for a Mexican policeman, and reports the sighting to Oleg and company.
THE GALLEGOS
They get word that the Mexicana is cutting into their Italian market with her 40% off sale. Joaquin is finally on board with his mad-dog son, Siso – Teresa has to be eliminated.
THE LAST ACT:
Teresa and Oleg are outside the torture chamber and they hear a shot fired. Now your enemies are part of the past, Oleg tells her.
But inside, the unimaginable is happening. Yes, Gato has been killed. But Ratas is freed from his chains, he manages to break away, grab a weapon, kill the Russians and escape!
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Herederos and Aurora fans – are there any left out there? – fill us in, please!
♪♪She is the very model of a modern major CEO ♪♪
She takes meetings and makes decisions. Her enemies and rivals track her every move. She is learning to delegate – but that lesson is coming slowly. She is trying to be dispassionate – and that lesson is coming along even more slowly.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS ABROAD:
She travels to Colombia and strikes a deal for 15 tons of cocaine. This is too much for the Russian market so Oleg arranges a meeting with the Italians -- the Camorra – who have, up to now, dealt with the Gallegos.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS AT HOME:
She gathers her inner circle and agrees to entrust the important banking to Patty’s handsome cousin, Teo. He proposes setting up accounts in Grand Cayman – a place free of the gossip and susceptibility to bribery that plague Gibraltar; and immune to European government crack-downs. This proposal sends the fuming Eddie A and his Gibraltar connections back to the kiddie table.
The fledgling company’s leadership is also clarified: Teresa will be (like W), “the decider”.
SHE MANAGES PERSONNEL:
In a private moment, she lets Conejo know why she treated her so roughly. Conejo proves to be a quick study. Later she concocts a story for the Colombian whiz kid security guy that distances her from Teresa (and appeals to Conejo’s ironic sense of humor): She says she just got out of the hospital where she was being treated for a nervous breakdown after her husband and mother-in-law died in a terrible way.
SHE TAKES MEETINGS WITH POTENTIAL ALLIES:
Teresa and Oleg, with Patty as translator, sit at a table with the Italian Camorra. The Italians try to talk over her head, addressing themselves directly to Oleg and speaking Italian without pausing to give Patty a chance to translate. They ask Oleg why he brought these women along. Teresa shoots right back: She’s the boss. If they have something to say, say it to her and Patty will translate. She explains her proposal – to transport the product from Venezuela to Casablanca in Africa; and then to Europe.
Her conditions:
No payment in drugs.
Payment must be in dollars. And in cash (en efectivo).
The Russians and Italian will split the costs.
She can offer them a price 40% less than the Gallegos are asking.
[When the Italian steps away from the table to make a phone call, Teresa whispers to Patty that she feels like she’s in a Mafia movie. Well, so do we.]
The Italian response: They don’t want war with the Gallegos. If Teresa wants their business, she’ll have to negotiate with Joaquin Perna. Remembering how the Gallegos betrayed Santiago, she flatly refuses to deal with her enemy. She leaves the table. Oleg stays behind and indicates his willingness to negotiate and promises he will talk to the Mexicana. [Clearly, she hasn’t mastered this hatred having an expiration date (fecha de caducidad) stuff yet.]
AS FOR THE ENEMIES AND RIVALS:
THE THREE STOOGES, MEXICAN STYLE
Batman realizes his matones (killers) have been captured when he phones them and gets to hear their moans and screams. And Oleg learns that “Batman” is the one who sent them.
Oleg drives Teresa to the torture chamber – an abandoned slaughterhouse? – and tells her:
La suerte de estos hombres está en tus manos.
(The fate (literally, luck) of these men is in your hands.)
She wants to kill them herself but Oleg holds her back. He tells her not to lose her self control, and not to cross that line and become a killer. She finally agrees. She remembers how Pote showed el Güero respect on that terrible night in Sinaloa. He is to be spared – taken to a hospital and then flown back to Mexico with a message for his boss. As for the other two: ¡Buen viaje al infierno! (Have a good trip to hell!)
BACK IN MEXICO
Batman tells Epifanio Vargas that the rusos have his nephew. He denies sending him to Spain – it’s just that there was no way to stop him from getting on the plane. If Ratas comes back to Mexico, it will likely be feet first (con los pies por delante).
Epi tells the Rat’s mother her boy is in trouble.
THE POLICIA
Willy Rangel, DEA agent (and for me, the only false casting note so far in this series) is in Spain. He and Flores, along with Flores’s current crooked boss, meet in a hotel bar and talk about their obsessive Teresa-hunting. Willy admits to a grudging admiration for his prey. Even more crooked ex-boss Juarez, now a soplón (informer) for Oleg, comes along, makes Willy for a Mexican policeman, and reports the sighting to Oleg and company.
THE GALLEGOS
They get word that the Mexicana is cutting into their Italian market with her 40% off sale. Joaquin is finally on board with his mad-dog son, Siso – Teresa has to be eliminated.
THE LAST ACT:
Teresa and Oleg are outside the torture chamber and they hear a shot fired. Now your enemies are part of the past, Oleg tells her.
But inside, the unimaginable is happening. Yes, Gato has been killed. But Ratas is freed from his chains, he manages to break away, grab a weapon, kill the Russians and escape!
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Herederos and Aurora fans – are there any left out there? – fill us in, please!
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REINA - Great week wrap up, Novela Maven! I don't have much to comment on since I haven't seen most of the episodes, yet. I agree that Willy is miscast. It's not just because he was the Chump in Clon. He just doesn't look like someone who could pass as a narco.
HEREDEROS- I'm still watching this turkey but it is so boring that I have to do something else while I'm watching it like playing Trism on my phone.
Let's see: Rosa finally caught Miguel and Sofía in a compromising position. Paula forces the del Monte brothers to let Sofía stay at the hacienda since apparently she is incapable of finding a place to live on her own.
Gaspar found out that Paula isn't Emilio's daughter but Jose has convinced him not to say anything about it until the right moment.
Otherwise, Julieta is still cycling between having a headache and being psychotic. She hasn't told anyone that she has terminal cancer.
Juan has declared war on Paula to try and force her to leave the hacienda before the year contract is up. He tells her that she and Sofía can't eat with the family in the dining room and then asks her to pay rent.
Lupe and Béatriz are still singing the same song and are auditioning for a TV show. Lupe hasn't told Gaspar about that.
Rosario is still holding out against Luke desire to have sex.
Emilio is still bandaged up. He has met Paula and sent Sofía jewelry.
HEREDEROS- I'm still watching this turkey but it is so boring that I have to do something else while I'm watching it like playing Trism on my phone.
Let's see: Rosa finally caught Miguel and Sofía in a compromising position. Paula forces the del Monte brothers to let Sofía stay at the hacienda since apparently she is incapable of finding a place to live on her own.
Gaspar found out that Paula isn't Emilio's daughter but Jose has convinced him not to say anything about it until the right moment.
Otherwise, Julieta is still cycling between having a headache and being psychotic. She hasn't told anyone that she has terminal cancer.
Juan has declared war on Paula to try and force her to leave the hacienda before the year contract is up. He tells her that she and Sofía can't eat with the family in the dining room and then asks her to pay rent.
Lupe and Béatriz are still singing the same song and are auditioning for a TV show. Lupe hasn't told Gaspar about that.
Rosario is still holding out against Luke desire to have sex.
Emilio is still bandaged up. He has met Paula and sent Sofía jewelry.
Reina - viernes
Muchas gracias, NovelaMaven, for another excellent summary. I agree with you and Jean that Willy seems miscast. For me, much of the problem does have to do with my associating him with his role as The Chump in "El Clon" and also because he is so different in appearance from everyone else in the narco world.
Rato's escape caught me by surprise, and it also seemed to me rather unbelievable. This guy has been hung by his hands for hours and beaten mercilessly, and yet as soon as he's lowered and the chains start to be removed, he's strong enough to overpower the Russian guy, and his hands are steady enough to shoot the other two Russians with one accurately placed shot each. Sorry, but that seems like telenovela fantasy. I've rarely needed my beanie for this TN, but I surely did for this scene.
Muchas gracias, NovelaMaven, for another excellent summary. I agree with you and Jean that Willy seems miscast. For me, much of the problem does have to do with my associating him with his role as The Chump in "El Clon" and also because he is so different in appearance from everyone else in the narco world.
Rato's escape caught me by surprise, and it also seemed to me rather unbelievable. This guy has been hung by his hands for hours and beaten mercilessly, and yet as soon as he's lowered and the chains start to be removed, he's strong enough to overpower the Russian guy, and his hands are steady enough to shoot the other two Russians with one accurately placed shot each. Sorry, but that seems like telenovela fantasy. I've rarely needed my beanie for this TN, but I surely did for this scene.
I thought Ratas escaping was also unbelievable because this is the guy who seemed to be a terrible shot when he was after Teresa, and now the dude shot down two Russians with ease.
Oh Batman, his pantalones are on fire. Lying to Epifaneo. Wonder if it will come back to bite him.
Teresa's "buen viaje al inferno" made me cheer. Yeah, I know it's bad, but those desgraciados deserve it!
I'm wondering how on earth Teresa is going to solve this problem with the Gallegos. She always finds a way.
I can't express enough how much I adore Oleg. He's such a fantastic character. The cool, calm, and collected character who has no problem doing all sorts of unspeakable things and who makes sure to tell you there are no friends in this business, yet is far more loyal and supportive than you would ever expect from someone in that lifestyle. His relationship with Teresa is wonderful.
Oh Batman, his pantalones are on fire. Lying to Epifaneo. Wonder if it will come back to bite him.
Teresa's "buen viaje al inferno" made me cheer. Yeah, I know it's bad, but those desgraciados deserve it!
I'm wondering how on earth Teresa is going to solve this problem with the Gallegos. She always finds a way.
I can't express enough how much I adore Oleg. He's such a fantastic character. The cool, calm, and collected character who has no problem doing all sorts of unspeakable things and who makes sure to tell you there are no friends in this business, yet is far more loyal and supportive than you would ever expect from someone in that lifestyle. His relationship with Teresa is wonderful.
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: Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 5:13:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 5:13:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - VIERNES
Thanks, NovelaMaven. You amaze me with your well-written, succinct discriptions of where we are at this point in time.
I agree about the actor playing Willy. I wondered if he was given this role as a pat on the back for all the crappy roles he's had. He was a nasty homosexual in Victoria, the Chump in El Clon, and I know there were others I've seen him in.
I thoroughly enjoyed Teo's humiliation of Fast Eddy at the organizational meeting. He said that the Gibraltans spent all their time cotilleando en el bar de la esquina, gossiping at the corner bar so that everyone knew everyone else's business. Plus he pointed out that, if laundering of drug money were to embarrass British officials, the heat could become intense.
I didn't quite understand why Flores got put back in charge of the Teresa Mendoza case. His old, crooked boss was there at the bar, giving him the green light. And he even blamed the lack of an effective case on Juarez. Was this boss trying to avoid the DEA finding out about the corruption?
I couldn't stand it that Ratas got away!
I was very glad Teresa was kind to Conejo and wanted her to know why she had to keep her at a distance.
I was glad they showed Teresa ready to plug Gato and Ratas. The stereotypical TN heroine never tries for revenge by an actual murder. Oleg was right, and she admitted as much outside. But there was no doubt in my mind she'd have shot them if he'd given her a pistol.
Thanks, NovelaMaven. You amaze me with your well-written, succinct discriptions of where we are at this point in time.
I agree about the actor playing Willy. I wondered if he was given this role as a pat on the back for all the crappy roles he's had. He was a nasty homosexual in Victoria, the Chump in El Clon, and I know there were others I've seen him in.
I thoroughly enjoyed Teo's humiliation of Fast Eddy at the organizational meeting. He said that the Gibraltans spent all their time cotilleando en el bar de la esquina, gossiping at the corner bar so that everyone knew everyone else's business. Plus he pointed out that, if laundering of drug money were to embarrass British officials, the heat could become intense.
I didn't quite understand why Flores got put back in charge of the Teresa Mendoza case. His old, crooked boss was there at the bar, giving him the green light. And he even blamed the lack of an effective case on Juarez. Was this boss trying to avoid the DEA finding out about the corruption?
I couldn't stand it that Ratas got away!
I was very glad Teresa was kind to Conejo and wanted her to know why she had to keep her at a distance.
I was glad they showed Teresa ready to plug Gato and Ratas. The stereotypical TN heroine never tries for revenge by an actual murder. Oleg was right, and she admitted as much outside. But there was no doubt in my mind she'd have shot them if he'd given her a pistol.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:00:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:00:00 PM EDT
LA REINA
One more thing! Ten points, NovelaMaven, for using a reference to Gilbert & Sullivan in your recap!!!
One more thing! Ten points, NovelaMaven, for using a reference to Gilbert & Sullivan in your recap!!!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:03:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:03:00 PM EDT
La Reina
Awesome post Novela Maven! Great summary and commentary.
I had to run away from the TV a few times this week. Lots of disturbing stuff. Boy, they sure made the Mexican trio out to be REALLY DISGUSTING! And such dufusses. Nice to have them caught. Too bad the truly, deeply disgusting Ratas got away! OK, we'll get another chance at his painful demise (I hope). FWIW this Ratas character is not in the book. Hubby informes me of these little details now and then. Actually, the Ratas actor is very good at making his character so frightening.
I've really been enjoying the lyrical Columbian "Paisa" accent as I heard it named. A Paisa is one from the Medellín area.
Its all moving right along.... They've been maintaining a good pace.
Audrey
Awesome post Novela Maven! Great summary and commentary.
I had to run away from the TV a few times this week. Lots of disturbing stuff. Boy, they sure made the Mexican trio out to be REALLY DISGUSTING! And such dufusses. Nice to have them caught. Too bad the truly, deeply disgusting Ratas got away! OK, we'll get another chance at his painful demise (I hope). FWIW this Ratas character is not in the book. Hubby informes me of these little details now and then. Actually, the Ratas actor is very good at making his character so frightening.
I've really been enjoying the lyrical Columbian "Paisa" accent as I heard it named. A Paisa is one from the Medellín area.
Its all moving right along.... They've been maintaining a good pace.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
AURORA - past few episodes
We are now in ultimas semanas. These events may not have happened in this order:
Lorenzo is in jail on a murder charge (the rapist who fell off the roof during the fight). Angela, his lawyer, is falling in love with him because -- per standard novela rule -- she is the recipient of Aurora's heart. However, her ex-husband will prosecute and he has it in for her.
So does Elizabeth, who just found out that Angela has Aurora's heart. Will someone please explain how she is at liberty?
Ernesto and Diana were conspiring to separate Vickie and Martin. When a kidnapping attempt failed, they set up a situation causing Vickie to see a nude Diana straddling (an unconscious) Martin. When Martin came to he knew this had been a trap and he told Diana off before escaping on his cycle.
While all this was going on Vanessa was also looking to separate Vickie from Martin because of her own selfishness. Catalina tried to remind her that Vickie is no longer a little girl, but Vanessa was determined to get Vickie to accompany her to Mexico where she will be in a novela for the next six months. She almost succeeded but Martin got to the airport just in time to stop Vickie from boarding the plane. After the usual multiple declarations of love and fidelity he convinced her to go away with him for the weekend to the mansion he inherited.
Blanca had a nightmare a couple of episodes ago in which Catalina and Pasion had an argument on the balcony. The argument escalated to a fight which ended with both of them falling off to their deaths. This nightmare almost came true in Friday's episode, but Christian stopped the fight just in time. In the confrontation that followed Catalina got careless and Christian realized that she stole him out of revenge for what was virtually a lifetime grudge.
But it didn't stop there. She actually told him that she loved him more than her own daughter and guess who walked in just in time to hear that. Catalina decided she wanted to alone with the bottle.
Diana told Ernesto that Martin saw through the trick, but then came up with a new scheme. She paid a visit to the estate attorney to ask about the consequences of Martin getting a divorce. He should have tossed her out on her showy behind, but instead told her that Martin would lose his inheritance if his marriage ends in less than 5 years and if he is also still childless.
Diana then fake-coughed so he would get her a glass of water. While he was out of the office she went through the file on his desk -- which conveniently was the correct one -- and stole some papers. While she was doing this Martin called from the airport to ask about the mansion. When the lawyer assured him it was his Martin informed him that he and Vickie would be having a second honeymoon there. Diana had somehow heard this on the speaker phone. She had stashed the stolen document in her shoulder bag and was seated when the lawyer returned with a glass of water.
Ernesto read the will and said "There is one situation this doesn't cover. What if Martin becomes a widower?"
In the avances they are sitting in a car outside the mansion and planning when to sneak in through a window.
We are now in ultimas semanas. These events may not have happened in this order:
Lorenzo is in jail on a murder charge (the rapist who fell off the roof during the fight). Angela, his lawyer, is falling in love with him because -- per standard novela rule -- she is the recipient of Aurora's heart. However, her ex-husband will prosecute and he has it in for her.
So does Elizabeth, who just found out that Angela has Aurora's heart. Will someone please explain how she is at liberty?
Ernesto and Diana were conspiring to separate Vickie and Martin. When a kidnapping attempt failed, they set up a situation causing Vickie to see a nude Diana straddling (an unconscious) Martin. When Martin came to he knew this had been a trap and he told Diana off before escaping on his cycle.
While all this was going on Vanessa was also looking to separate Vickie from Martin because of her own selfishness. Catalina tried to remind her that Vickie is no longer a little girl, but Vanessa was determined to get Vickie to accompany her to Mexico where she will be in a novela for the next six months. She almost succeeded but Martin got to the airport just in time to stop Vickie from boarding the plane. After the usual multiple declarations of love and fidelity he convinced her to go away with him for the weekend to the mansion he inherited.
Blanca had a nightmare a couple of episodes ago in which Catalina and Pasion had an argument on the balcony. The argument escalated to a fight which ended with both of them falling off to their deaths. This nightmare almost came true in Friday's episode, but Christian stopped the fight just in time. In the confrontation that followed Catalina got careless and Christian realized that she stole him out of revenge for what was virtually a lifetime grudge.
But it didn't stop there. She actually told him that she loved him more than her own daughter and guess who walked in just in time to hear that. Catalina decided she wanted to alone with the bottle.
Diana told Ernesto that Martin saw through the trick, but then came up with a new scheme. She paid a visit to the estate attorney to ask about the consequences of Martin getting a divorce. He should have tossed her out on her showy behind, but instead told her that Martin would lose his inheritance if his marriage ends in less than 5 years and if he is also still childless.
Diana then fake-coughed so he would get her a glass of water. While he was out of the office she went through the file on his desk -- which conveniently was the correct one -- and stole some papers. While she was doing this Martin called from the airport to ask about the mansion. When the lawyer assured him it was his Martin informed him that he and Vickie would be having a second honeymoon there. Diana had somehow heard this on the speaker phone. She had stashed the stolen document in her shoulder bag and was seated when the lawyer returned with a glass of water.
Ernesto read the will and said "There is one situation this doesn't cover. What if Martin becomes a widower?"
In the avances they are sitting in a car outside the mansion and planning when to sneak in through a window.
REINA -
Thanks for the well organized and entertaining summary, NovelaMaven. Here are just a few more details (in case anyone cares :)
The corrupt boss of Flores is named Juan Hernandez.
Teresa's plan (on hold until they figure out what to do with the Gallegos) calls for the drugs that they're buying from the Colombians to be disguised as drums (bidones) of motor oil. After the drugs go from La Guaira, Venezuela to Casablanca, British freighters (cargueros) would take them to Italy, where the Italians would get their 10 tons. The other 5 go to Romania, then Moscow.
I think Teresa named the company Naviera Transernaga, but this just may be a description, not a name.
Teo liked the Grand Caymans, saying it had 800 banks on that little group of islands, only 2 hours from Miami.
I think Pote will remember how Teresa spared him, and might even be the one to stop Ratas.
As for Batman, I agree that he may be in trouble with Don Epi. Ratas told Epi that Batman would betray him, since he wasn't "family".
Thanks for the well organized and entertaining summary, NovelaMaven. Here are just a few more details (in case anyone cares :)
The corrupt boss of Flores is named Juan Hernandez.
Teresa's plan (on hold until they figure out what to do with the Gallegos) calls for the drugs that they're buying from the Colombians to be disguised as drums (bidones) of motor oil. After the drugs go from La Guaira, Venezuela to Casablanca, British freighters (cargueros) would take them to Italy, where the Italians would get their 10 tons. The other 5 go to Romania, then Moscow.
I think Teresa named the company Naviera Transernaga, but this just may be a description, not a name.
Teo liked the Grand Caymans, saying it had 800 banks on that little group of islands, only 2 hours from Miami.
I think Pote will remember how Teresa spared him, and might even be the one to stop Ratas.
As for Batman, I agree that he may be in trouble with Don Epi. Ratas told Epi that Batman would betray him, since he wasn't "family".
REINA
Thanks, Hombre, for the additional details. I almost never am able to follow the business negociations and drug plans in Spanish--heck, I'm not sure I could follow them in English! So I'm especially grateful to you for making them clear.
I think the name of the company is Transer Naga--at least, that's the way it's referred to in the novel.
I'd forgotten about Ratas' warning to Epifanio about Batman. Thanks for the reminder. I suspect it may turn out to be important (though I hate to think that anything Ratas has said could turn out to be important).
Thanks, Hombre, for the additional details. I almost never am able to follow the business negociations and drug plans in Spanish--heck, I'm not sure I could follow them in English! So I'm especially grateful to you for making them clear.
I think the name of the company is Transer Naga--at least, that's the way it's referred to in the novel.
I'd forgotten about Ratas' warning to Epifanio about Batman. Thanks for the reminder. I suspect it may turn out to be important (though I hate to think that anything Ratas has said could turn out to be important).
AURORA
I am with this show til the end. I'm glad Sara Maldonado's gone, and Sonya Smith replaced her as Lorenzo Lobos' love, cuz there's definitely more sizzle now.
I also like the Cristian/Clara pair up.
I am with this show til the end. I'm glad Sara Maldonado's gone, and Sonya Smith replaced her as Lorenzo Lobos' love, cuz there's definitely more sizzle now.
I also like the Cristian/Clara pair up.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 18, 2011 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 18, 2011 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
HEREDEROS
also still watching this, but as Jean said, quite boring. anticipating Lucas/Rosario hook-up.
also still watching this, but as Jean said, quite boring. anticipating Lucas/Rosario hook-up.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 18, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 18, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
REINA - Lunes
With a traditional telenovela, there's an hour of talking. This one's in love with that one. She lied to him. He cheated on her. Will they forgive each other? Etc., etc., with very little action until the final weeks.
But with Reina, it's the opposite. We have TONS of action, and not too much talking. You could have watched last night's episode without knowing a word of Spanish, and you'd understand a lot of it.
Mostly, we had Ratas. Waking up in a field. Threatening some stoned hippies, who laughingly give him their car. Knocking over a woman in an underground garage and taking her purse (all he kept was the cash). Calling Uncle Epifanio, who tells him forget Teresa, come home. Right.
The Russians discover that Ratas escaped, and locate Pote in the hospital. He gives Teresa Ratas hotel, not as a snitch, but since she saved his life (his pescuezo, or neck).
Patty insists on going to the hotel, and it turns out this was good, because she charms the room number out of the desk attendant. They rush to the room, but Ratas escapes, and after a heated chase (in which Dima could have killed him, but apparently wanted Teresa to have the chance), Ratas stumbles into the Mexican Embassy!!!, where's he calls Don Epi again, who says come home again. Right.
Meanwhile, the Colombians like Teresa, and blow off the Gallego Pernas family. So do the Italians, since Teresa has a lower price. So the Pernas are really desperate.
The cops, though, have figured out what's going on, and want to track the shipment from Colombia.
But (as usual), Teresa's in danger!
With a traditional telenovela, there's an hour of talking. This one's in love with that one. She lied to him. He cheated on her. Will they forgive each other? Etc., etc., with very little action until the final weeks.
But with Reina, it's the opposite. We have TONS of action, and not too much talking. You could have watched last night's episode without knowing a word of Spanish, and you'd understand a lot of it.
Mostly, we had Ratas. Waking up in a field. Threatening some stoned hippies, who laughingly give him their car. Knocking over a woman in an underground garage and taking her purse (all he kept was the cash). Calling Uncle Epifanio, who tells him forget Teresa, come home. Right.
The Russians discover that Ratas escaped, and locate Pote in the hospital. He gives Teresa Ratas hotel, not as a snitch, but since she saved his life (his pescuezo, or neck).
Patty insists on going to the hotel, and it turns out this was good, because she charms the room number out of the desk attendant. They rush to the room, but Ratas escapes, and after a heated chase (in which Dima could have killed him, but apparently wanted Teresa to have the chance), Ratas stumbles into the Mexican Embassy!!!, where's he calls Don Epi again, who says come home again. Right.
Meanwhile, the Colombians like Teresa, and blow off the Gallego Pernas family. So do the Italians, since Teresa has a lower price. So the Pernas are really desperate.
The cops, though, have figured out what's going on, and want to track the shipment from Colombia.
But (as usual), Teresa's in danger!
LA REINA:
Thanks Hombre for the great summary. I have nothing to add since, as usual, I haven't seen the episode yet.
After watching last week's episodes, I did wonder whether Spain would want DEA agents operating on its sovererign territory. If Juarez had give a better description of Willy to Teresa, she might have figured out who he was but maybe she has forgotten about Willy. That was a long time ago in Teresa's event-filled life.
I don't know why Willy has such a hard on for capturing Teresa. Yes, he lost two men when Don Epifanio got Guero's agenda but why should Teresa have sacrificed her life to save Willy's guys?
Also, Teresa didn't react too much when she found out that someone named 'Batman' had sent the three Mexiteers to kill her. She must know that Batman works for Don Epifanio, no? Before, she didn't believe that Don Epifanio wanted to hurt her.
Thanks Hombre for the great summary. I have nothing to add since, as usual, I haven't seen the episode yet.
After watching last week's episodes, I did wonder whether Spain would want DEA agents operating on its sovererign territory. If Juarez had give a better description of Willy to Teresa, she might have figured out who he was but maybe she has forgotten about Willy. That was a long time ago in Teresa's event-filled life.
I don't know why Willy has such a hard on for capturing Teresa. Yes, he lost two men when Don Epifanio got Guero's agenda but why should Teresa have sacrificed her life to save Willy's guys?
Also, Teresa didn't react too much when she found out that someone named 'Batman' had sent the three Mexiteers to kill her. She must know that Batman works for Don Epifanio, no? Before, she didn't believe that Don Epifanio wanted to hurt her.
LA REINA - LUNES
Great recap, Hombre. Yep, this one is all action. I watch a little bit of the glacial Herederos to get my heart rate back down.
I loved it when Patty thought all the Mexicans had gotten un boleto de ida y no de vuelta, a one-way ticket. She also cracked me up when she said she was glad not to have the Siberians pegado al culo, stuck on her hindquarters.
I could listen to Sanchez Godoy all night. I love the way he calls everyone m'ijo. He took absolutely no crap from Siso Pernas and spoke about Teresa with admiration. se porta firmes conmigo y no llora como ustedes. Firme seems to be very common in Colombian narcospeak. I heard it a lot in El Cartel. Esa Mexicana les trepó That Mexican woman climbed right above you.
Ratas is a total monster. He tells Batman Pote is a traitor because Teresa spared him and also that he probably sold them to her. That makes a lot of sense! If he were the rat, why would he include himself in the torture session?
Epifanio told Ratas that if he tried anything funny in Spain like he did in the US, not even the Virgencita could save him.
Siso Pernas and Piero Melchiore are very chummy. Funny how Piero can speak Spanish now that he's dealing with Gallegos. But notwithstanding all this love, it's still: show me the money! Match Teresa's offer or buzz off.
Great recap, Hombre. Yep, this one is all action. I watch a little bit of the glacial Herederos to get my heart rate back down.
I loved it when Patty thought all the Mexicans had gotten un boleto de ida y no de vuelta, a one-way ticket. She also cracked me up when she said she was glad not to have the Siberians pegado al culo, stuck on her hindquarters.
I could listen to Sanchez Godoy all night. I love the way he calls everyone m'ijo. He took absolutely no crap from Siso Pernas and spoke about Teresa with admiration. se porta firmes conmigo y no llora como ustedes. Firme seems to be very common in Colombian narcospeak. I heard it a lot in El Cartel. Esa Mexicana les trepó That Mexican woman climbed right above you.
Ratas is a total monster. He tells Batman Pote is a traitor because Teresa spared him and also that he probably sold them to her. That makes a lot of sense! If he were the rat, why would he include himself in the torture session?
Epifanio told Ratas that if he tried anything funny in Spain like he did in the US, not even the Virgencita could save him.
Siso Pernas and Piero Melchiore are very chummy. Funny how Piero can speak Spanish now that he's dealing with Gallegos. But notwithstanding all this love, it's still: show me the money! Match Teresa's offer or buzz off.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 2:35:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 2:35:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - GENERAL
Jean, I wondered the same thing about the DEA agents in other countries. They were also set up with an office in Colombia where Willy's female partner organized the search warrant party on Sanchez Godoy's house.
The only explanation we've been given about Willy's thirst for catching Teresa is the two DEA agents that died. One of the Spanish guys (can't remember which one) hinted he might be also attracted to her, but he pooh-poohed that one. He was also frustrated that he couldn't get anything out of her during that plane ride together.
Jean, I wondered the same thing about the DEA agents in other countries. They were also set up with an office in Colombia where Willy's female partner organized the search warrant party on Sanchez Godoy's house.
The only explanation we've been given about Willy's thirst for catching Teresa is the two DEA agents that died. One of the Spanish guys (can't remember which one) hinted he might be also attracted to her, but he pooh-poohed that one. He was also frustrated that he couldn't get anything out of her during that plane ride together.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 3:05:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 3:05:00 PM EDT
REINA
About Willy and his Teresa obsession -- I thought he said a few episodes back that he had been concentrating on nailing Epifanio Vargas but was now convinced that Teresa was the bigger fish. I thought the intention was to use Willy as a voice within the story -- someone with the prescience to see how important Teresa was going to be even before she herself realizes it.
The book is written in retrospect, so there's no need for such a narrative device. But given the show's linear narrative structure, a character convinced that our protagonist is going to be front and center is another way to focus our attention on her. (Not that we need the extra spotlight. The character of Teresa is written and portrayed in a way that says very clearly: Attention must be paid!)
About Willy and his Teresa obsession -- I thought he said a few episodes back that he had been concentrating on nailing Epifanio Vargas but was now convinced that Teresa was the bigger fish. I thought the intention was to use Willy as a voice within the story -- someone with the prescience to see how important Teresa was going to be even before she herself realizes it.
The book is written in retrospect, so there's no need for such a narrative device. But given the show's linear narrative structure, a character convinced that our protagonist is going to be front and center is another way to focus our attention on her. (Not that we need the extra spotlight. The character of Teresa is written and portrayed in a way that says very clearly: Attention must be paid!)
GENERAL
Thanks for all the interesting comments over the weekend. I especially appreciate the updates on HEREDEROS and AURORA written by Jean and Urban Anthro.
REINA - Friday
I agree that Ratas's escape was hard to believe but I have found a lot of the narrow escapes to be a bit of a stretch. For me, it's the price of doing business in the Action/Adventure genre. I did hate that such a loathesome character got away -- but that's another story!
REINA - Monday
Hombre, once again I appreciate the excellent summary. And I think you make a great point about the relative importance of Action (see above). The great thing though is that there's still plenty of language to luxuriate in.
Thanks, Novelera, for capturing some of that language for use.
By the way, speaking of needing your tinfoil-lined beanie for this show -- I found Ratas's ending up on the Mexican consulate's doorstep kind of hard to swallow.
Thanks for all the interesting comments over the weekend. I especially appreciate the updates on HEREDEROS and AURORA written by Jean and Urban Anthro.
REINA - Friday
I agree that Ratas's escape was hard to believe but I have found a lot of the narrow escapes to be a bit of a stretch. For me, it's the price of doing business in the Action/Adventure genre. I did hate that such a loathesome character got away -- but that's another story!
REINA - Monday
Hombre, once again I appreciate the excellent summary. And I think you make a great point about the relative importance of Action (see above). The great thing though is that there's still plenty of language to luxuriate in.
Thanks, Novelera, for capturing some of that language for use.
By the way, speaking of needing your tinfoil-lined beanie for this show -- I found Ratas's ending up on the Mexican consulate's doorstep kind of hard to swallow.
Ha, I rationalized it as them having chosen that hotel because it was close to the consulate, so Ratas was probably planning on going there before being chased by Teresa and Dima. Yeah, quite a stretch.
I enjoyed Sanchez Godoy quite a bit as well. Loved his admiration for her. The truth is, he is technically a vile narco, but he's pretty likable to me. When Willy was undercover, he was very appreciative and affectionate pointing out that he treats friends well but snitches get stitches, basically.
Patty was hilarious last night. And she got to be useful!
I enjoyed Sanchez Godoy quite a bit as well. Loved his admiration for her. The truth is, he is technically a vile narco, but he's pretty likable to me. When Willy was undercover, he was very appreciative and affectionate pointing out that he treats friends well but snitches get stitches, basically.
Patty was hilarious last night. And she got to be useful!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 4:20:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 4:20:00 PM EDT
LA REINA- Good thoughts, Novelera and Novela Maven on why Willy is so obsessed with Teresa.
I know the DEA operates in Mexico and I wouldn't be surprised if they operated in Colombia as well. The USA has more interest in what is going on in Mexico and Central America and gives money to the governments of those countries to try and stop the drug trade.
But Spain? I don't think so but as you say, we need Willy to focus things on Teresa.
OFF TOPIC - Did anyone notice that Telemundo has started promos for a new novela, La Casa de al Lado that is presumably the replacement for Reina.
I know the DEA operates in Mexico and I wouldn't be surprised if they operated in Colombia as well. The USA has more interest in what is going on in Mexico and Central America and gives money to the governments of those countries to try and stop the drug trade.
But Spain? I don't think so but as you say, we need Willy to focus things on Teresa.
OFF TOPIC - Did anyone notice that Telemundo has started promos for a new novela, La Casa de al Lado that is presumably the replacement for Reina.
Re: Upcoming novelas
Jean, I did notice the promo for "La Casa de al Lado" but didn't realize it was the replacement for "Reina". I'm not sure there's going to be anything left on Telemundo that I want to watch once Reina is over...well, unless there's some really great retread during the day that I can record and watch later (It seems often the best shows are the ones the network 'throws away' to fill the daytime slots.) Now that "Nuevo Rico, Nuevo Pobre" is winding down, maybe they'll replace it with another witty Colombian comedy that I never got to see the first time around.
Jean, I did notice the promo for "La Casa de al Lado" but didn't realize it was the replacement for "Reina". I'm not sure there's going to be anything left on Telemundo that I want to watch once Reina is over...well, unless there's some really great retread during the day that I can record and watch later (It seems often the best shows are the ones the network 'throws away' to fill the daytime slots.) Now that "Nuevo Rico, Nuevo Pobre" is winding down, maybe they'll replace it with another witty Colombian comedy that I never got to see the first time around.
Reina - lunes
Thanks Hombre, Novelera, NovelaMaven, Anonymous, and Jean, for your interesting and helpful comments on last night's episode. I'm also very grateful, Novelera, for your help with some of the Spanish.
NovelaMaven, I found especially interesting your remarks about the need for a character to provide the perspective we get automatically in the novel since it's told retrospectively. A great point!
I'm afraid I'm in the market for a new beanie. Last Friday's episode almost did mine in, and what was left of it was demolished by Ratas' unbelievable exploits last night. He merely pushes the woman at her car and she collapses unconscious; he apparently was seen entering his hotel all bloody, but nobody tried to stop him (or even ask whether he needed help); he finds it hard to get up from his seat after talking to his uncle on the phone in the Mexican embassy but he has no trouble running away from the presumably very fit Russian who chases him when he flees from his hotel, and when the Russian finally does catch him, he succeeds in getting away. And then, to top it off, he makes it to the Mexican embassy and finds refuge there. That's when my beanie disintegrated.
By the way, Hombre, I don't agree that Dima could have killed Ratas but wanted to let Teresa have a chance to do it. Dima certainly seemed to be shooting at Ratas as best he could when he was chasing him down the stairs. But he apparently doesn't have telenovela magic in his hands, the way Ratas did when he shot the two Russians in the previous episode.
Jean, I hope you're wrong about La Casa de al Lado being intended as a replacement for La Reina del Sur. I think Telemundo was promising that La Casa would be appearing "muy pronto," and I very strongly doubt that we're that close to the end of La Reina. I certainly hope not!!!
Thanks Hombre, Novelera, NovelaMaven, Anonymous, and Jean, for your interesting and helpful comments on last night's episode. I'm also very grateful, Novelera, for your help with some of the Spanish.
NovelaMaven, I found especially interesting your remarks about the need for a character to provide the perspective we get automatically in the novel since it's told retrospectively. A great point!
I'm afraid I'm in the market for a new beanie. Last Friday's episode almost did mine in, and what was left of it was demolished by Ratas' unbelievable exploits last night. He merely pushes the woman at her car and she collapses unconscious; he apparently was seen entering his hotel all bloody, but nobody tried to stop him (or even ask whether he needed help); he finds it hard to get up from his seat after talking to his uncle on the phone in the Mexican embassy but he has no trouble running away from the presumably very fit Russian who chases him when he flees from his hotel, and when the Russian finally does catch him, he succeeds in getting away. And then, to top it off, he makes it to the Mexican embassy and finds refuge there. That's when my beanie disintegrated.
By the way, Hombre, I don't agree that Dima could have killed Ratas but wanted to let Teresa have a chance to do it. Dima certainly seemed to be shooting at Ratas as best he could when he was chasing him down the stairs. But he apparently doesn't have telenovela magic in his hands, the way Ratas did when he shot the two Russians in the previous episode.
Jean, I hope you're wrong about La Casa de al Lado being intended as a replacement for La Reina del Sur. I think Telemundo was promising that La Casa would be appearing "muy pronto," and I very strongly doubt that we're that close to the end of La Reina. I certainly hope not!!!
Novela Maven- I'm not sure that La Casa is the replacement for Reina but it seems probable since Reina is supposed to be a shorter than normal novela.
It's also what it says on Wikipedia but who knows how reliable that is.
It's also what it says on Wikipedia but who knows how reliable that is.
Reina -
Juanita, the reason why I thought Dima could have killed Ratas is that when they were running, Dima was about 5 feet behind him, and didn't try to take a shot. He then grabbed Ratas, and tried to hold him, rather than shoot him. But I agree, it really just the correct telenovela time for Ratas to get shot!
I'm also hoping that Reina is not over soon. They haven't said anything about final weeks, stage or anything like that.
Juanita, the reason why I thought Dima could have killed Ratas is that when they were running, Dima was about 5 feet behind him, and didn't try to take a shot. He then grabbed Ratas, and tried to hold him, rather than shoot him. But I agree, it really just the correct telenovela time for Ratas to get shot!
I'm also hoping that Reina is not over soon. They haven't said anything about final weeks, stage or anything like that.
I saw the preview for "La Casa" too and thought, cool, in what has become Telemundo style away from the norm shows it looked promising.
Also if you guys remember they had wrapped up "Ojo por Ojo" and then pulled it's release and shelved it. That looked like a good one too.
In the last two or three weeks I've only seen about 5 minutes of Herederos. Man, 2 complete flops back to back on Telemundo right now, truly unwatchable.
I'd love it if they would bring back "A Corazon Abierto" too, loved that show a lot.
Reina might not go as long as we want it too but man it's been one heck of a ride. We've hardly had anything to complain about! For me personally, this show has really given me an appreciation for the Spanish accent. We're seeing so many cities in Spain, it's like I've been exposed to so much Mexican Spanish that this has a great experience in that regard too.
Also if you guys remember they had wrapped up "Ojo por Ojo" and then pulled it's release and shelved it. That looked like a good one too.
In the last two or three weeks I've only seen about 5 minutes of Herederos. Man, 2 complete flops back to back on Telemundo right now, truly unwatchable.
I'd love it if they would bring back "A Corazon Abierto" too, loved that show a lot.
Reina might not go as long as we want it too but man it's been one heck of a ride. We've hardly had anything to complain about! For me personally, this show has really given me an appreciation for the Spanish accent. We're seeing so many cities in Spain, it's like I've been exposed to so much Mexican Spanish that this has a great experience in that regard too.
AURORA -- Loony...er, Lunes
Attempted Murder
Diana got into the mansion a la cat burglar and went up the stairs. Martin was in the kitchen preparing supper while Vickie was bathing in rose petals and candlelight (set up by Martin, a true romantic). She was relaxing with her eyes closed when Diana got into the bathroom and shoved her head below the water surface.
Martin called to her, Diana split before he could catch her, and Martin got to Vickie just in time to save her from drowning.
Diana got to the car, shaking like a leaf. Ernesto tried to calm her down, then drove off. Martin called the police and they filed a report. He told Vickie after that he doesn't want her to be alone.
Neither Diana nor Ernesto were aware that the murder attempt failed until the next day. There was a conversation between Martin and Christian in which Christian said he didn't trust Ernesto. Ernesto visited Lorenzo in jail and attempted to torture him with comments about Martin taking advantage of Vickie because of her memory lapses. Since Lorenzo has always known about Ernesto's jones for Vickie he not only didn't buy it, he gave him his walking papers.
Ernesto and Diana found out about their failure, then hatched a new scheme. He then went to Martin and Vickie's apartment and took another shot at Martin's integrity. Vickie wasn't buying. Martin came home and Ernesto accused him of attempting to kill Vickie because he has the biggest motive. Martin threw him out. Ernesto and Diana still felt confident.
The estate lawyer came to see Martin. He couldn't find the will but apparently Martin keeps the $15MM inheritance in the event he becomes a widower before 5 years go by. Martin didn't previously know this and Vickie is sure he loves her for real... until later when she finds the black hood with the silver mask that she pulled off Ernesto before running out into the theatre and suffering another memory episode. Somehow he or Diana managed to plant it.
Lorenzo's Trial
The prosecutor is doing everything to smear Lorenzo's family and the judge has already noted this relative to Angela's objections. Once again, this trial doesn't even remotely seem real because the courtroom doesn't resemble NYC courtrooms in any way, witnesses who haven't yet testified are seated in the spectator area, and the trial is being conducted in Spanish, which doesn't happen here. Also, the proceedings evolved into an argument between Angela and Felix, which no Law & Order judge would permit.
Angela is expecting a witness who can prove Lorenzo is innocent, but he doesn't answer his phone. Her assistant is looking for him.
Felix doesn't seem to care whether Lorenzo is innocent or guilty, he only wants to beat Angela.
Elizabeth
She told Pasion that she knows that Angela got Aurora's heart and that this is why she's fighting for Lorenzo. We still don't know who told her, but neither Cesar nor Pasion is comfortable with Elizabeth knowing this.
Meanwhile, back at Vanessa's penthouse:
Catalina, who has been drowning in booze for the past week or so, attempted suicide. Vanessa blames this on Christian. She's in surgery as the episode closed, with Christian, Vanessa, Vickie, and Martin in the hospital waiting room.
Comments:
This isn't in perfect order, as I didn't take notes while watching this at 7:30 this morning.
Both the writing staff of this series and Eva Luna need to do their homework on US trial procedures. Their primary audiences know better whether or not they've ever been in a courtroom.
The relationships in this series are substantially more convoluted than in any other novela I've ever seen, even FELS. This detracts from the original intent of the series, which could have benefitted from having a science fiction author on staff or available for consultation.
Attempted Murder
Diana got into the mansion a la cat burglar and went up the stairs. Martin was in the kitchen preparing supper while Vickie was bathing in rose petals and candlelight (set up by Martin, a true romantic). She was relaxing with her eyes closed when Diana got into the bathroom and shoved her head below the water surface.
Martin called to her, Diana split before he could catch her, and Martin got to Vickie just in time to save her from drowning.
Diana got to the car, shaking like a leaf. Ernesto tried to calm her down, then drove off. Martin called the police and they filed a report. He told Vickie after that he doesn't want her to be alone.
Neither Diana nor Ernesto were aware that the murder attempt failed until the next day. There was a conversation between Martin and Christian in which Christian said he didn't trust Ernesto. Ernesto visited Lorenzo in jail and attempted to torture him with comments about Martin taking advantage of Vickie because of her memory lapses. Since Lorenzo has always known about Ernesto's jones for Vickie he not only didn't buy it, he gave him his walking papers.
Ernesto and Diana found out about their failure, then hatched a new scheme. He then went to Martin and Vickie's apartment and took another shot at Martin's integrity. Vickie wasn't buying. Martin came home and Ernesto accused him of attempting to kill Vickie because he has the biggest motive. Martin threw him out. Ernesto and Diana still felt confident.
The estate lawyer came to see Martin. He couldn't find the will but apparently Martin keeps the $15MM inheritance in the event he becomes a widower before 5 years go by. Martin didn't previously know this and Vickie is sure he loves her for real... until later when she finds the black hood with the silver mask that she pulled off Ernesto before running out into the theatre and suffering another memory episode. Somehow he or Diana managed to plant it.
Lorenzo's Trial
The prosecutor is doing everything to smear Lorenzo's family and the judge has already noted this relative to Angela's objections. Once again, this trial doesn't even remotely seem real because the courtroom doesn't resemble NYC courtrooms in any way, witnesses who haven't yet testified are seated in the spectator area, and the trial is being conducted in Spanish, which doesn't happen here. Also, the proceedings evolved into an argument between Angela and Felix, which no Law & Order judge would permit.
Angela is expecting a witness who can prove Lorenzo is innocent, but he doesn't answer his phone. Her assistant is looking for him.
Felix doesn't seem to care whether Lorenzo is innocent or guilty, he only wants to beat Angela.
Elizabeth
She told Pasion that she knows that Angela got Aurora's heart and that this is why she's fighting for Lorenzo. We still don't know who told her, but neither Cesar nor Pasion is comfortable with Elizabeth knowing this.
Meanwhile, back at Vanessa's penthouse:
Catalina, who has been drowning in booze for the past week or so, attempted suicide. Vanessa blames this on Christian. She's in surgery as the episode closed, with Christian, Vanessa, Vickie, and Martin in the hospital waiting room.
Comments:
This isn't in perfect order, as I didn't take notes while watching this at 7:30 this morning.
Both the writing staff of this series and Eva Luna need to do their homework on US trial procedures. Their primary audiences know better whether or not they've ever been in a courtroom.
The relationships in this series are substantially more convoluted than in any other novela I've ever seen, even FELS. This detracts from the original intent of the series, which could have benefitted from having a science fiction author on staff or available for consultation.
REINA - Martes
This was a great episode for Teresa & Co. For the Pernas family, not so good.
Ratas apparently DID go back to Mexico, where his Mommy is caring for the big baby. A week or so passes, and Pote is discharged from the hospital. Unfortunately he has no money. He calls Batman, who tells him he has 3 choices: 1) Kill Teresa and come home, 2) do nothing and come home to our "welcome":), or 3) join Teresa and we'll hunt you down. He apparently goes for door number 3.
In typical telenovela fashion, while he's scrounging through the trash for something to eat, he finds a newspaper, with a headline about the new shipping company's grand opening. Somehow he realizes this is Teresa's company, goes to the opening, and hangs out outside the building.
Siso Pernas is fed up with Teresa. He calls the cops and tells them just exactly when and where those "oil drums" with drugs will be delivered. Wrong! The cops burst in, and the oil drums are filled with....oil. Teresa changed the plan to flowers! (I'd think you'd need way more boxes, but it's a "sweet" idea). They also have a new guy on the team, Dr. Ramos, who knows every port, and apparently allowed them to split the drugs into lots of little shipments, so they could sell the excess the Italians didn't take.
Siso is mad, and decides Teresa has to die. He and his cousin go to Marbella and hire a guy to put a bomb on Teresa's car. But Pote, hanging around outside, sees it. When Teresa comes out, he tries to join her team. She says no, but he grabs her just before she and Vladimir get into the car. Vlad is killed in the explosion, but Tere is grateful. Oleg's not convinced about Pote, and takes him away for interrogation.
Since the company is now legit, they have to explain to the normal cops why Tere's car exploded. Teo (who is more and more attracted to Tere) agrees to handle the press, and Eddie gets even more mad.
But not as mad as the Pernas family when they find that their plan didn't work. Daddy Xoajin Pernans decides to take care of matters PERSONALLY.
This was a great episode for Teresa & Co. For the Pernas family, not so good.
Ratas apparently DID go back to Mexico, where his Mommy is caring for the big baby. A week or so passes, and Pote is discharged from the hospital. Unfortunately he has no money. He calls Batman, who tells him he has 3 choices: 1) Kill Teresa and come home, 2) do nothing and come home to our "welcome":), or 3) join Teresa and we'll hunt you down. He apparently goes for door number 3.
In typical telenovela fashion, while he's scrounging through the trash for something to eat, he finds a newspaper, with a headline about the new shipping company's grand opening. Somehow he realizes this is Teresa's company, goes to the opening, and hangs out outside the building.
Siso Pernas is fed up with Teresa. He calls the cops and tells them just exactly when and where those "oil drums" with drugs will be delivered. Wrong! The cops burst in, and the oil drums are filled with....oil. Teresa changed the plan to flowers! (I'd think you'd need way more boxes, but it's a "sweet" idea). They also have a new guy on the team, Dr. Ramos, who knows every port, and apparently allowed them to split the drugs into lots of little shipments, so they could sell the excess the Italians didn't take.
Siso is mad, and decides Teresa has to die. He and his cousin go to Marbella and hire a guy to put a bomb on Teresa's car. But Pote, hanging around outside, sees it. When Teresa comes out, he tries to join her team. She says no, but he grabs her just before she and Vladimir get into the car. Vlad is killed in the explosion, but Tere is grateful. Oleg's not convinced about Pote, and takes him away for interrogation.
Since the company is now legit, they have to explain to the normal cops why Tere's car exploded. Teo (who is more and more attracted to Tere) agrees to handle the press, and Eddie gets even more mad.
But not as mad as the Pernas family when they find that their plan didn't work. Daddy Xoajin Pernans decides to take care of matters PERSONALLY.
Nice recap, Hombre.
I wanted to add that yesterday they took care to show us how jealous Patty is. She was looking at Teresa all lovey-dovey, completely entranced while she discussed the plan.
She was very annoyed with Teo and Teresa growing closer.
Eddie was also really annoyed by Teo continuing to do things that he feels are part of his job, so I hope he won't be doing anything to screw over Teresa.
I have problems with Telemundo's signal sometimes and so I missed some short bits of dialogue, but I wasn't sure that the drugs were all sent with the flowers since later she told Oleg that she wouldn't reveal her secrets. It just seemed odd that Teo knew. Plus I'm left wondering how that even works. It hardly seems a safe way to camouflage all that cocaine.
I wanted to add that yesterday they took care to show us how jealous Patty is. She was looking at Teresa all lovey-dovey, completely entranced while she discussed the plan.
She was very annoyed with Teo and Teresa growing closer.
Eddie was also really annoyed by Teo continuing to do things that he feels are part of his job, so I hope he won't be doing anything to screw over Teresa.
I have problems with Telemundo's signal sometimes and so I missed some short bits of dialogue, but I wasn't sure that the drugs were all sent with the flowers since later she told Oleg that she wouldn't reveal her secrets. It just seemed odd that Teo knew. Plus I'm left wondering how that even works. It hardly seems a safe way to camouflage all that cocaine.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 12:48:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 12:48:00 PM EDT
REINA - martes
Thanks, Hombre, for the delightful summary. I really enjoyed your snark.
I confess that I'm still confused about how the 15 tons of cocaine were transported. I had assumed that they were packed in tightly sealed waterproof (and oilproof) bundles that were hidden inside the cans of oil. Flores and his men drilled holes in several cans, but they never drilled very deeply, just enough to get the oil to spurt out. Thus, I assumed that they simply never drilled deep enough to hit the bundles.
When I read your explanation about Teresa changing the plan from oil cans to flowers, at first I thought "Oh, I missed that." But then I wasn't so sure. How could they ship so much cocaine in flower boxes, especially since the cocaine would have to be hidden? But then what was the point of the flowers? And was that a condom that Teo held up as explanation for how something (cocaine?) was shipped? Like Novelera, I find it odd that Teresa would let Teo in on the plan but not Oleg.
Teresa is running a risk keeping Eddie on but excluding him from more and more of the operation. He betrayed her once and is clearly pissed now. That could spell real trouble for Teresa. But then again, so too could so many other things!
Needless to say, I was amused to see Superman Ratas in a wheelchair being fed by his "jefecita."
Thanks, Hombre, for the delightful summary. I really enjoyed your snark.
I confess that I'm still confused about how the 15 tons of cocaine were transported. I had assumed that they were packed in tightly sealed waterproof (and oilproof) bundles that were hidden inside the cans of oil. Flores and his men drilled holes in several cans, but they never drilled very deeply, just enough to get the oil to spurt out. Thus, I assumed that they simply never drilled deep enough to hit the bundles.
When I read your explanation about Teresa changing the plan from oil cans to flowers, at first I thought "Oh, I missed that." But then I wasn't so sure. How could they ship so much cocaine in flower boxes, especially since the cocaine would have to be hidden? But then what was the point of the flowers? And was that a condom that Teo held up as explanation for how something (cocaine?) was shipped? Like Novelera, I find it odd that Teresa would let Teo in on the plan but not Oleg.
Teresa is running a risk keeping Eddie on but excluding him from more and more of the operation. He betrayed her once and is clearly pissed now. That could spell real trouble for Teresa. But then again, so too could so many other things!
Needless to say, I was amused to see Superman Ratas in a wheelchair being fed by his "jefecita."
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I agree that it's unclear what happened to the drugs. But it did seem that Teo held up a yellow thing that had the cocaine in it. There were lots of other ones like it in the box. But still, that's way less efficient than oil drums for the huge quantity they were transporting. What's certain is that Teresa changed from the oil drum plan, because she told Oleg that Siso Pernas must have told the authorities about the "first plan". They DID have two weeks, lots of maps, lots of strategizing, etc., to do things, but I agree, the flower thing just doesn't "smell" right!
I agree that it's unclear what happened to the drugs. But it did seem that Teo held up a yellow thing that had the cocaine in it. There were lots of other ones like it in the box. But still, that's way less efficient than oil drums for the huge quantity they were transporting. What's certain is that Teresa changed from the oil drum plan, because she told Oleg that Siso Pernas must have told the authorities about the "first plan". They DID have two weeks, lots of maps, lots of strategizing, etc., to do things, but I agree, the flower thing just doesn't "smell" right!
The plan was definitely changed. Teresa said she knew the Italians had no doubt told the Gallegos about the oil, so she didn't abandon it, as in she coordinated so it would look like everything was still going to be the same while the cocaine really arrived another way. I just figured the cocaine in the flower box was more of a gift and a sign from Sanchez-Godoy that everything worked out. I was under the impression that viewers basically weren't let in on how she did it, but like I said, the signal was on the fritz for me a bit when this happened. So, I'll go with Hombre's recap and also re-watch that part on Telemundo's site.
-S
-S
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 1:54:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 1:54:00 PM EDT
Okay, I just re-watched and it seems it was the flowers. Teresa says "a ver que tan cómoda viajó nuestra carga" when Ramos opens the box. The flowers were all wrapped up, but you could see they were flowers, so I suppose I can see how nobody would suspect that the wrapping on the bottom was concealing cocaine. Teresa doesn't reveal to Oleg how she managed to split it between so many different cities.
By the way, I find it jarring that Willy has referred to Teresa as la Mexicana a few times now. He's Mexican, too, so it sounds odd from him.
I forgot to mention that I got a little nervous last night that Patty was going to start blabbing to her date when Willy saw her in the restaurant and followed them into the bathroom.
-S
By the way, I find it jarring that Willy has referred to Teresa as la Mexicana a few times now. He's Mexican, too, so it sounds odd from him.
I forgot to mention that I got a little nervous last night that Patty was going to start blabbing to her date when Willy saw her in the restaurant and followed them into the bathroom.
-S
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 2:13:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 2:13:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - MARTES
Excellent recap of last night, Hombre, and great comments so far.
We learned that it was Ratas' idea to send the flores de los muertos to Pote in the hospital. And yes, I laughed out loud at the sight of the big baby in the wheelchair, the same big baby who nimbly outran Dima in the streets of Marbella (Or was it Malaga? I get confused where they are sometimes).
Patty seems to be in love with Teresa at this point. She's clearly jealous of Teo and calls Teresa la sudaca mas lista del planeta.
I always enjoy Don Epifanio chewing out Ratas, so I'll write what he tells Ratas after he hears Ratas telling Batman he wants to go after Teresa and Pote. Me tienes hasta el cogote. Su idita de España es el último que hiciste sin me permiso. Me vuelves a desobedecer y vas a terminar como sus enemigos, colgando de un puente. Se me va a olvidar quien eres. You have me fed up to the top of my throat. Your little trip to Spain is the last one you'll make without my permission. Disobey me again and you will end up hanging from a bridge like your enemies. I will forget who you are (his nephew). But somehow Ratas never quite looks like he's gotten the message.
I loved Flores disgust at finding the barrels of oil being only motor oil. The guy still sticks in my craw.
Doesn't look like very many of Oleg's Russians are living to collect their pensions, does it?
Excellent recap of last night, Hombre, and great comments so far.
We learned that it was Ratas' idea to send the flores de los muertos to Pote in the hospital. And yes, I laughed out loud at the sight of the big baby in the wheelchair, the same big baby who nimbly outran Dima in the streets of Marbella (Or was it Malaga? I get confused where they are sometimes).
Patty seems to be in love with Teresa at this point. She's clearly jealous of Teo and calls Teresa la sudaca mas lista del planeta.
I always enjoy Don Epifanio chewing out Ratas, so I'll write what he tells Ratas after he hears Ratas telling Batman he wants to go after Teresa and Pote. Me tienes hasta el cogote. Su idita de España es el último que hiciste sin me permiso. Me vuelves a desobedecer y vas a terminar como sus enemigos, colgando de un puente. Se me va a olvidar quien eres. You have me fed up to the top of my throat. Your little trip to Spain is the last one you'll make without my permission. Disobey me again and you will end up hanging from a bridge like your enemies. I will forget who you are (his nephew). But somehow Ratas never quite looks like he's gotten the message.
I loved Flores disgust at finding the barrels of oil being only motor oil. The guy still sticks in my craw.
Doesn't look like very many of Oleg's Russians are living to collect their pensions, does it?
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - MARTES
It was funny when Teresa said that the Colombian flowers were very pretty. And, yes, it appears very odd that 15 tons of cocaine could be put in baggies or condoms and inserted into boxes of fresh flowers. Think how labor intensive! Guess they work cheap in Colombia.
Teresa outsmarted Siso because she assumed the Italians from La Camorra would tell Los Pernas her plan for transporting the drugs. That's really thinking several moves ahead!
It was funny when Teresa said that the Colombian flowers were very pretty. And, yes, it appears very odd that 15 tons of cocaine could be put in baggies or condoms and inserted into boxes of fresh flowers. Think how labor intensive! Guess they work cheap in Colombia.
Teresa outsmarted Siso because she assumed the Italians from La Camorra would tell Los Pernas her plan for transporting the drugs. That's really thinking several moves ahead!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 3:26:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 3:26:00 PM EDT
Reina - martes
Novelera, thanks VERY much for including some Spanish. I understood when Patty said that Teresa was la sudaca más lista del planeta, but I totally screwed up on Epifanio's chewing out of Ratas. I thought that he was simply criticizing him (again) for hanging his enemies from the bridge! Sigh.
Novelera, thanks VERY much for including some Spanish. I understood when Patty said that Teresa was la sudaca más lista del planeta, but I totally screwed up on Epifanio's chewing out of Ratas. I thought that he was simply criticizing him (again) for hanging his enemies from the bridge! Sigh.
GENERAL
I still say Telemundo's novelas are more watchable than Univisions'.
I still say Telemundo's novelas are more watchable than Univisions'.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 4:19:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 4:19:00 PM EDT
So I just saw a preview for tonights show where Teo tried to kiss Teresa...I gotta tell you I'm not buying it.
I don't see any chemistry there and he comes off more like a putz when I compare him to El guero and Santiago. Dude is completely smitten, that's obvious, but it feels like a one way street.
I don't see any chemistry there and he comes off more like a putz when I compare him to El guero and Santiago. Dude is completely smitten, that's obvious, but it feels like a one way street.
LA REINA
De nada, Juanita. This novela has so many colorful idioms and speech patterns from three continents (N. America, S. America, and Spain - as Teresa told Sheila during a beatdown, México is in N. America!) that I try to write down a phrase or two that appeals to me each episode.
De nada, Juanita. This novela has so many colorful idioms and speech patterns from three continents (N. America, S. America, and Spain - as Teresa told Sheila during a beatdown, México is in N. America!) that I try to write down a phrase or two that appeals to me each episode.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:21:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:21:00 PM EDT
LA REINA: MARTES
Hombre, thanks for the recap. Like everyone else, I too was unsure how the cocaine actually got there. Nice to have that cleared up.
I would say that not only was Patti pissed by the sparks flying between Teresa and Teo, but it looked like at one point that Oleg had picked up on it too and was not at all happy. Jealous???
Interesting how just after Teresa is nearly killed in the explosion her real concern is that once again she has caused the death of someone else. She can be tough and heartless when it comes to her enemies, but really vulnerable when it comes to those she loves. Also, she seemed almost giddy when she related to Teo. Great acting from Kate once again!
Hombre, thanks for the recap. Like everyone else, I too was unsure how the cocaine actually got there. Nice to have that cleared up.
I would say that not only was Patti pissed by the sparks flying between Teresa and Teo, but it looked like at one point that Oleg had picked up on it too and was not at all happy. Jealous???
Interesting how just after Teresa is nearly killed in the explosion her real concern is that once again she has caused the death of someone else. She can be tough and heartless when it comes to her enemies, but really vulnerable when it comes to those she loves. Also, she seemed almost giddy when she related to Teo. Great acting from Kate once again!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
I think Oleg is very protective of Teresa, so he's not quite so ready to trust anyone who tries to get close to her.
Granted I completely fell in love with Santiago, but Teo seems so second-rate in comparison. Firstly because he's an okay-looking guy, but doesn't have anything on Ivan Sanchez. Then he doesn't have anywhere near the charm of him or El Guero. Santiago's smile at the things Teresa would say always melted me just like they did her. Plus I think Ivan and Kate had chemistry in a way that even a lot of novela couples with good chemistry couldn't compete with. Either the actors or the people directing them did a great job with little things here and there that ring true of real-life couples.
Someone commented that in the book Teresa doesn't fall in love with Teo in spite of getting involved with him. I could see them making it more romantic for the sake of the novela, but I'd actually prefer if they didn't have her falling in love with yet another man. I suppose that's because Teo seems unworthy though. =)
I felt pretty sorry for Dima. It's quite something how this telenovela makes you feel sorry for a bunch of criminals. Those guys are just so loyal and willing to do anything to protect Teresa though that I can't help feeling bad when they get killed doing so.
-S
Granted I completely fell in love with Santiago, but Teo seems so second-rate in comparison. Firstly because he's an okay-looking guy, but doesn't have anything on Ivan Sanchez. Then he doesn't have anywhere near the charm of him or El Guero. Santiago's smile at the things Teresa would say always melted me just like they did her. Plus I think Ivan and Kate had chemistry in a way that even a lot of novela couples with good chemistry couldn't compete with. Either the actors or the people directing them did a great job with little things here and there that ring true of real-life couples.
Someone commented that in the book Teresa doesn't fall in love with Teo in spite of getting involved with him. I could see them making it more romantic for the sake of the novela, but I'd actually prefer if they didn't have her falling in love with yet another man. I suppose that's because Teo seems unworthy though. =)
I felt pretty sorry for Dima. It's quite something how this telenovela makes you feel sorry for a bunch of criminals. Those guys are just so loyal and willing to do anything to protect Teresa though that I can't help feeling bad when they get killed doing so.
-S
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:44:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 6:44:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - MARTES
Rand, I agree. I wouldn't go so far as to call Teo a putz, but he's way too Eurotrash and effete for Teresa.
Rand, I agree. I wouldn't go so far as to call Teo a putz, but he's way too Eurotrash and effete for Teresa.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 8:11:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 8:11:00 PM EDT
REINA - Miercoles
"Man, life's a drag" - Xavier Pernas' famous last words.
Sorry about that!
-- Teo helped Teresa deal with the press and the cops after her car blew up. Vladimir was her "chauffeur", and of course she has NO ENEMIES. Of course. Willy and Flores were listening in. As she emerged from the police station, Oscar Lobatos, the nice reporter, introduced Teresa to "Cucho Mala Espina", a photographer, who after Tere left, said (in a gay sort of voice) "She's a diva". Let's call her "La Reina del Sur!"
---- Willy Rangel has a secret weapon. Veronica! We'll get to see beautiful Sara Maldonado in action.
Pote is interrogated by Oleg. He remembers the license plate of the guys who placed the bomb. Young Arturo, the tech wiz, confirms this, and Pote lives (for now). The Russians (and the cops) figure out it was the Gallegos. They kill the two thugs who actually planted the bomb, and hook up Xavier (Siso's cousin) to the back of Siso's plane. They force Xavi to call Siso to tell him to leave without him. Siso flies off, and unwittingly becomes his cousin's executioner!
Back in Gallecia, Siso and his Dad Xoaquin are horrified, and Pa Pernas utters this great line "Si tiene que llover sangre del cielo, abriremos los paraguas" (If is has to rain blood from the sky, let's open the umbrellas!)
--- Teo kisses Teresa, which Patty sees.
--- Pote wants to work for Teresa, saying he always called her la morrita del Guero (the cute young girl with Guero), which makes Teresa smile. Maybe she WILL let Pote be her bodyguard.
"Man, life's a drag" - Xavier Pernas' famous last words.
Sorry about that!
-- Teo helped Teresa deal with the press and the cops after her car blew up. Vladimir was her "chauffeur", and of course she has NO ENEMIES. Of course. Willy and Flores were listening in. As she emerged from the police station, Oscar Lobatos, the nice reporter, introduced Teresa to "Cucho Mala Espina", a photographer, who after Tere left, said (in a gay sort of voice) "She's a diva". Let's call her "La Reina del Sur!"
---- Willy Rangel has a secret weapon. Veronica! We'll get to see beautiful Sara Maldonado in action.
Pote is interrogated by Oleg. He remembers the license plate of the guys who placed the bomb. Young Arturo, the tech wiz, confirms this, and Pote lives (for now). The Russians (and the cops) figure out it was the Gallegos. They kill the two thugs who actually planted the bomb, and hook up Xavier (Siso's cousin) to the back of Siso's plane. They force Xavi to call Siso to tell him to leave without him. Siso flies off, and unwittingly becomes his cousin's executioner!
Back in Gallecia, Siso and his Dad Xoaquin are horrified, and Pa Pernas utters this great line "Si tiene que llover sangre del cielo, abriremos los paraguas" (If is has to rain blood from the sky, let's open the umbrellas!)
--- Teo kisses Teresa, which Patty sees.
--- Pote wants to work for Teresa, saying he always called her la morrita del Guero (the cute young girl with Guero), which makes Teresa smile. Maybe she WILL let Pote be her bodyguard.
LA REINA - MIÉRCOLES
Thanks, Hombre! LOVED "Life's a drag"!!!!!
Conejo has changed her "look". Her hair's different and she's wearing makeup. She's the personification of efficiency.
I loved the exchange between "Cucho Mala Espina" (can that really be his name?) and Teresa. Perhaps because of stress, she really brought the Mexican slang:
no quiero sonar sangrona pero la neta ahorita no es el momento. Estoy que me lleva la fregada. I don't want to be a snotty person but the truth is right now is not the right moment. I've been brought to the end of my strength. This string of Mexicanismos was amazing to Cucho.
Does everyone here know about Malinche? Cucho called her la malinche en la costa del sol. Malinche is the perhaps fictional woman that Mexicans blame for helping Cortez conquer the Aztecs. She was his interpreter.
Thanks, Hombre! LOVED "Life's a drag"!!!!!
Conejo has changed her "look". Her hair's different and she's wearing makeup. She's the personification of efficiency.
I loved the exchange between "Cucho Mala Espina" (can that really be his name?) and Teresa. Perhaps because of stress, she really brought the Mexican slang:
no quiero sonar sangrona pero la neta ahorita no es el momento. Estoy que me lleva la fregada. I don't want to be a snotty person but the truth is right now is not the right moment. I've been brought to the end of my strength. This string of Mexicanismos was amazing to Cucho.
Does everyone here know about Malinche? Cucho called her la malinche en la costa del sol. Malinche is the perhaps fictional woman that Mexicans blame for helping Cortez conquer the Aztecs. She was his interpreter.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 2:56:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 2:56:00 PM EDT
Reina - miércoles
Thanks very much, Hombre and Novelera, for your helpful commentaries. Hombre, I hate to admit it, but I too enjoyed your "Life's a drag"!
Thanks for the link to more info re "morrita." I don't think I'll be giving away too much to say that I'm pretty sure Teresa will indeed employ Pote as a bodyguard. She certainly did so in the novel, and I can't imagine their setting all this up in the TN just for her to turn him away again.
Novelera, I too wondered about Cucho Mala Espina's name (and his affect). I went back to the novel and, sure enough, he's there, named Cucho Malaspina. In the novel, too, it's said that he's the one who first called Teresa "La Reina del Sur." I hadn't remembered that and thought this was some hokey addition to the telenovela.
Thanks very much, Hombre and Novelera, for your helpful commentaries. Hombre, I hate to admit it, but I too enjoyed your "Life's a drag"!
Thanks for the link to more info re "morrita." I don't think I'll be giving away too much to say that I'm pretty sure Teresa will indeed employ Pote as a bodyguard. She certainly did so in the novel, and I can't imagine their setting all this up in the TN just for her to turn him away again.
Novelera, I too wondered about Cucho Mala Espina's name (and his affect). I went back to the novel and, sure enough, he's there, named Cucho Malaspina. In the novel, too, it's said that he's the one who first called Teresa "La Reina del Sur." I hadn't remembered that and thought this was some hokey addition to the telenovela.
LA REINA - GENERAL
I studied Portuguese years and years ago and subsequently spent a month traveling in Brazil.
I had noticed before that phrases spoken by the Pernas clan sounded more like Portuguese than Spanish.
It turns out I was right. Last night Siso referred to something as o meu (sorry forgot the noun this modified), but those words mean the masculine possessive in Portuguese and apparently also in Galician. Obviously Papa Pernas and Siso don't speak entirely in Galician. They mostly use Castilian so that we can understand everything. But I admire the way the writers use some of it for "flavor".
According to Wikipedia:
Modern Galician and modern Portuguese are descended from a single Latin-derived language which linguists today call Galician-Portuguese or Mediaeval Galician or Old Portuguese. This common ancestral language was spoken in the territories of the mediaeval Kingdom of Galicia. Galician is recognized as one of the official languages in Spain, as well as Catalan and Basque.
If you're interested in the Wiki, here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_language
I studied Portuguese years and years ago and subsequently spent a month traveling in Brazil.
I had noticed before that phrases spoken by the Pernas clan sounded more like Portuguese than Spanish.
It turns out I was right. Last night Siso referred to something as o meu (sorry forgot the noun this modified), but those words mean the masculine possessive in Portuguese and apparently also in Galician. Obviously Papa Pernas and Siso don't speak entirely in Galician. They mostly use Castilian so that we can understand everything. But I admire the way the writers use some of it for "flavor".
According to Wikipedia:
Modern Galician and modern Portuguese are descended from a single Latin-derived language which linguists today call Galician-Portuguese or Mediaeval Galician or Old Portuguese. This common ancestral language was spoken in the territories of the mediaeval Kingdom of Galicia. Galician is recognized as one of the official languages in Spain, as well as Catalan and Basque.
If you're interested in the Wiki, here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_language
Permalink posted by : Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 7:28:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 7:28:00 PM EDT
Reina - miércoles
Thanks, Novelera, for clearing up this mystery and providing the link. I was scratching my head last night at some of what the Pernas clan were saying. I assumed it was Galician, but I was still puzzled that in the Spanish captions it looked like Portuguese. Now I know why.
Thanks, Novelera, for clearing up this mystery and providing the link. I was scratching my head last night at some of what the Pernas clan were saying. I assumed it was Galician, but I was still puzzled that in the Spanish captions it looked like Portuguese. Now I know why.
Reina - jueves
There were several things I noted about this episode. One was the dream that Don Epifanio had, in which Ratas shoots him in the hand. Don E. wakes up, looks at his hand and realizes that he'd had a dream. But then he thinks to himself, "Algún día va a ser inevitable que este muchacho sepa la verdad." Huh? I wonder what truth he is referring to. I hope it's not some soppy telenovela convention such as Epifanio is Ratas' real father. Blech! So far, this TN has done a remarkably good job of keeping such nonsense to a minimum.
The episode also included a bit of heavy-handed foreshadowing. In the conversation between Patty and Teresa after Patty's berrinche over Teo, Patty tells Teresa that the press is after her (Teresa), and that one of these days they're going to take a photo that will cause her trouble. Then, sure enough, a few minutes later the reporter Cucho and a photographer get some clandestine shots of Teresa and Teo, including at least one of them kissing. Uh oh.
Speaking of trouble, Flores announces that he's just learned that the Italian mafia guys and some of Teresa's crew have all gone off to Oleg's nightclub, and that Patty is "más suelta que nunca" (or something like that), which I gather means something like "looser" (more of a slut?) than ever. How did Flores get the info so quickly? (Also, when Willy hears about Patty, he calls his "secret weapon," Veronica, and tells her to put their operation into practice. The next thing we know, Veronica is in Oleg's bar and has caught Patty's eye, etc. Oleg, ever wary, is watching the whole thing.) So we've got double trouble--Flores is uncannily well informed, and Willy's operation apparently involves Veronica getting Patty to say things she shouldn't, just as she did earlier with that Russian girl. But unlike the Russian girl, Veronica will report to Willy, not Oleg. Uh oh, otra vez.
There were several things I noted about this episode. One was the dream that Don Epifanio had, in which Ratas shoots him in the hand. Don E. wakes up, looks at his hand and realizes that he'd had a dream. But then he thinks to himself, "Algún día va a ser inevitable que este muchacho sepa la verdad." Huh? I wonder what truth he is referring to. I hope it's not some soppy telenovela convention such as Epifanio is Ratas' real father. Blech! So far, this TN has done a remarkably good job of keeping such nonsense to a minimum.
The episode also included a bit of heavy-handed foreshadowing. In the conversation between Patty and Teresa after Patty's berrinche over Teo, Patty tells Teresa that the press is after her (Teresa), and that one of these days they're going to take a photo that will cause her trouble. Then, sure enough, a few minutes later the reporter Cucho and a photographer get some clandestine shots of Teresa and Teo, including at least one of them kissing. Uh oh.
Speaking of trouble, Flores announces that he's just learned that the Italian mafia guys and some of Teresa's crew have all gone off to Oleg's nightclub, and that Patty is "más suelta que nunca" (or something like that), which I gather means something like "looser" (more of a slut?) than ever. How did Flores get the info so quickly? (Also, when Willy hears about Patty, he calls his "secret weapon," Veronica, and tells her to put their operation into practice. The next thing we know, Veronica is in Oleg's bar and has caught Patty's eye, etc. Oleg, ever wary, is watching the whole thing.) So we've got double trouble--Flores is uncannily well informed, and Willy's operation apparently involves Veronica getting Patty to say things she shouldn't, just as she did earlier with that Russian girl. But unlike the Russian girl, Veronica will report to Willy, not Oleg. Uh oh, otra vez.
Reina - jueves
In my last posting, I referred to Patty's response to seeing Teresa and Teo together as a "berrinche" (tantrum), which is also the word Teresa uses to describe Patty's behavior. I think that's a good description, but it masks the fact that Patty is giving her good advice about Teo, and she is ignoring it. What's really significant is that in the same episode, Oleg also warns her about Teo, but Teresa listens to neither her best friend nor her wise mentor. As Oleg says, she's "cabezota" (pig-headed, stubborn). Probably the double warning is reason to add yet another Uh oh.
In my last posting, I referred to Patty's response to seeing Teresa and Teo together as a "berrinche" (tantrum), which is also the word Teresa uses to describe Patty's behavior. I think that's a good description, but it masks the fact that Patty is giving her good advice about Teo, and she is ignoring it. What's really significant is that in the same episode, Oleg also warns her about Teo, but Teresa listens to neither her best friend nor her wise mentor. As Oleg says, she's "cabezota" (pig-headed, stubborn). Probably the double warning is reason to add yet another Uh oh.
Good recap, Juanita.
I was giddy to hear Teresa's response to Pote when he asked if she was going to give him the job (chamba):
"¡A huevo que sí, pinche Pote!"
Loved hearing what is a very natural, common Mexican response.
Pote was hilarious last night. In full Mexican garb, all ready to do his job. I loved the serious look on his face while Teresa was having coffee with Oleg.
"Contratar a ese gordo para que te cuide es como contratar a un buitre a cuidar carne."
Oleg telling Teresa that hiring that "fat guy" to protect her is like hiring a vulture to protect meat, to which Teresa says that Pote would never betray his boss.
Also great were the puzzled looks he got on his first day.
When he received money from Teresa to buy clothes:
"Oiga señora, le va salir más caro el collar quel perro."
Willy's operation was fittingly called Operation Sappho.
I admit that I didn't pay much attention to the scenes with Teresa and Teo because I just don't like him. Patty was right when she said he was feeding her cliched, dramatic lines like straight out of a telenovela (culebrones). Like I said, he seems so charmless and second-tier to me.
-S
I was giddy to hear Teresa's response to Pote when he asked if she was going to give him the job (chamba):
"¡A huevo que sí, pinche Pote!"
Loved hearing what is a very natural, common Mexican response.
Pote was hilarious last night. In full Mexican garb, all ready to do his job. I loved the serious look on his face while Teresa was having coffee with Oleg.
"Contratar a ese gordo para que te cuide es como contratar a un buitre a cuidar carne."
Oleg telling Teresa that hiring that "fat guy" to protect her is like hiring a vulture to protect meat, to which Teresa says that Pote would never betray his boss.
Also great were the puzzled looks he got on his first day.
When he received money from Teresa to buy clothes:
"Oiga señora, le va salir más caro el collar quel perro."
Willy's operation was fittingly called Operation Sappho.
I admit that I didn't pay much attention to the scenes with Teresa and Teo because I just don't like him. Patty was right when she said he was feeding her cliched, dramatic lines like straight out of a telenovela (culebrones). Like I said, he seems so charmless and second-tier to me.
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:39:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:39:00 PM EDT
REINA - Jueves
Excellent comments, Juanita. I feared the same thing about Don Epi's secret (that he's Ratas' dad!)
Pote is cool, telling everyone he needs his "tools", which means his gun, a Colt Double Eagle. Oleg thinks having Pote guard Teresa is risky, like "a vulture guarding some meat".
Trust is running short these days. Oleg doesn't trust Teo. Patty doesn't trust Teo. Oleg doesn't trust Pote. Conejo doesn't trust Alberto enough to tell him the ladies were in jail (she said they met at a boarding school "un internado").
Teresa wants to be normal, to feel what a normal woman feels, such as protected by a man (Teo). Unfortunately, for her, things are not so simple.
After Xavier's funeral, Siso is madder than ever. But Pa Pernas counsels thinking with sangre frio (cold blood), adding "hay que saber cuando de apretar el gatillo" (you have to know when to press the trigger).
Veronica's mission is called "operation safo" (don't know why, unless it's sapo, which is a snitch (literally, a toad).
I wondered how Veronica would hide her Mexican accent. Turns out, she USED it, to get Patty's attention. But it's very suspicious that another Mexican girl is talking to Patty, and she may have some 'splainin' to do.
Excellent comments, Juanita. I feared the same thing about Don Epi's secret (that he's Ratas' dad!)
Pote is cool, telling everyone he needs his "tools", which means his gun, a Colt Double Eagle. Oleg thinks having Pote guard Teresa is risky, like "a vulture guarding some meat".
Trust is running short these days. Oleg doesn't trust Teo. Patty doesn't trust Teo. Oleg doesn't trust Pote. Conejo doesn't trust Alberto enough to tell him the ladies were in jail (she said they met at a boarding school "un internado").
Teresa wants to be normal, to feel what a normal woman feels, such as protected by a man (Teo). Unfortunately, for her, things are not so simple.
After Xavier's funeral, Siso is madder than ever. But Pa Pernas counsels thinking with sangre frio (cold blood), adding "hay que saber cuando de apretar el gatillo" (you have to know when to press the trigger).
Veronica's mission is called "operation safo" (don't know why, unless it's sapo, which is a snitch (literally, a toad).
I wondered how Veronica would hide her Mexican accent. Turns out, she USED it, to get Patty's attention. But it's very suspicious that another Mexican girl is talking to Patty, and she may have some 'splainin' to do.
Oleg actually says como poner a un buitre in the last part of that sentence.
Juanita, he actually doesn't call her stubborn or pig-headed (that would be cabezona). He says that she's "la cabezota que tiene la última palabra". As in, he doesn't agree, and he's giving her advice, but she's the brains of the operation/boss and she has the last word.
-S
Juanita, he actually doesn't call her stubborn or pig-headed (that would be cabezona). He says that she's "la cabezota que tiene la última palabra". As in, he doesn't agree, and he's giving her advice, but she's the brains of the operation/boss and she has the last word.
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:47:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:47:00 PM EDT
I had forgotten how funny it was that Conejo was trying to make Alberto believe that somehow these very different women met in a boarding school. Especially when she tells him that "jail" is what they used to call it.
I was correcting myself in that Oleg sentence, by the way.
-S
I was correcting myself in that Oleg sentence, by the way.
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
LA REINA - JUEVES
Thanks, Juanita, for your excellent observations.
As usual, one of my favorite things about the novela is the interesting idiom or expression. When Teresa gives Pote a wad of cash to buy clothes, he tells her Le va a salir mas caro el collar que el perro. The collar is going to turn out more expensive than the dog wearing it.
I love the way Cucho talks.
Oleg and Patty both warn Teresa about Teo: plenty foreshadowing there.
The extended scene with Patty, Teresa and, in the beginning, Teo, was fabulously well acted. I noticed that Teo didn't defend himself much from Patty's harsh description. I love the way Patty speaks: Cómo Teresa es sudaca le sueltes unas frasecitas de culebron y ya esta! Y que vamos a llamar a la telenovela? "La Mexicana y El Senorito Andaluz" o mejor "El Amor en los Tiempos del Narco". Great stuff. Because Teresa is a Latino you can let loose some telenovela phrases and you've got her. And then comes up with great titles for this TN.
She finishes this up with advice for Teresa: have sex with him but don't trust him.
Again, this was a fabulous scene - so well acted by both. Teresa tells her that she needs to feel desired. And Patty's face is so sad because she desires her but isn't desired back.
I enjoyed the scene where Teresa tells Oleg that he doesn't understand Mexicans. Pote comes from a culture where loyalty to a boss is everything. She knows that Pote has changed teams.
Thanks, Juanita, for your excellent observations.
As usual, one of my favorite things about the novela is the interesting idiom or expression. When Teresa gives Pote a wad of cash to buy clothes, he tells her Le va a salir mas caro el collar que el perro. The collar is going to turn out more expensive than the dog wearing it.
I love the way Cucho talks.
Oleg and Patty both warn Teresa about Teo: plenty foreshadowing there.
The extended scene with Patty, Teresa and, in the beginning, Teo, was fabulously well acted. I noticed that Teo didn't defend himself much from Patty's harsh description. I love the way Patty speaks: Cómo Teresa es sudaca le sueltes unas frasecitas de culebron y ya esta! Y que vamos a llamar a la telenovela? "La Mexicana y El Senorito Andaluz" o mejor "El Amor en los Tiempos del Narco". Great stuff. Because Teresa is a Latino you can let loose some telenovela phrases and you've got her. And then comes up with great titles for this TN.
She finishes this up with advice for Teresa: have sex with him but don't trust him.
Again, this was a fabulous scene - so well acted by both. Teresa tells her that she needs to feel desired. And Patty's face is so sad because she desires her but isn't desired back.
I enjoyed the scene where Teresa tells Oleg that he doesn't understand Mexicans. Pote comes from a culture where loyalty to a boss is everything. She knows that Pote has changed teams.
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:54:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:54:00 PM EDT
Reina - jueves
Wow, what excellent comments from -S, Hombre, and Novelera! And thanks to you all also for including so much helpful Spanish.
-S, I agree with your feelings about Teo. That's exactly why I found it so telling that both Patty and Oleg warned Teresa about him, and she ignores their warnings. BTW, I checked several dictionaries, both Spanish/English and Spanish/Spanish, and they all define "cabezota" as stubborn, pig-headed, terco. And one of the dictionaries also referred me to the first definition of cabezón, which was terco, pig-headed.
Thanks, too, -S, for "sappho." Like Hombre, I was mystified, but when I read your message I thought, Oh, yes, of course!
I enjoyed Conejo's quick thinking when Alfredo heard Patty refer to "la cárcel" and, without missing a beat, Conejo explains that yes, they used to call the internado la cárcel.
Hombre, I hope both of us are wrong in our understanding of what Epifanio meant. I have higher expectations for this telenovela.
Novelera, thanks so much for including translations of the Spanish passages you included. I had had some trouble with both of them. Also, like you, was impressed by how well acted last-night's episode was. I was especially taken with the scenes involving Pote and the extended scene involving Teresa, Teo (for a while), and Patty.
Wow, what excellent comments from -S, Hombre, and Novelera! And thanks to you all also for including so much helpful Spanish.
-S, I agree with your feelings about Teo. That's exactly why I found it so telling that both Patty and Oleg warned Teresa about him, and she ignores their warnings. BTW, I checked several dictionaries, both Spanish/English and Spanish/Spanish, and they all define "cabezota" as stubborn, pig-headed, terco. And one of the dictionaries also referred me to the first definition of cabezón, which was terco, pig-headed.
Thanks, too, -S, for "sappho." Like Hombre, I was mystified, but when I read your message I thought, Oh, yes, of course!
I enjoyed Conejo's quick thinking when Alfredo heard Patty refer to "la cárcel" and, without missing a beat, Conejo explains that yes, they used to call the internado la cárcel.
Hombre, I hope both of us are wrong in our understanding of what Epifanio meant. I have higher expectations for this telenovela.
Novelera, thanks so much for including translations of the Spanish passages you included. I had had some trouble with both of them. Also, like you, was impressed by how well acted last-night's episode was. I was especially taken with the scenes involving Pote and the extended scene involving Teresa, Teo (for a while), and Patty.
Juanita, thanks. I suppose it could be what Oleg meant. I have never heard anyone use cabezota in that sense though, always cabezona. It might be more common in Spain than Latin America.
-S
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 2:01:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 2:01:00 PM EDT
As for Patty, my heart did break for her when Teresa tells her that being around Teo has reminded her how it's been years since someone caressed her, or kissed her. How she needs to feel desired. And how Teo just reminded her how much she likes men. Men of course, which Patty obviously isn't, even if she loves and desires her. Aside from being jealous, she really values Teresa and tells her she deserves better, that Teo "no está a tu altura".
Then there's her pointing out that press is after Teresa, not her anymore. So, Patty feels unwanted in a lot of respects.
And of course she tells Teresa to leave her alone so she can take a hit of coke, which really drove home how affected she was.
I can see Patty lashing out if warned about Veronica, maybe saying that someone can be interested in her, and not just trying to use her to get to Teresa. She's pretty vulnerable right now.
-S
Then there's her pointing out that press is after Teresa, not her anymore. So, Patty feels unwanted in a lot of respects.
And of course she tells Teresa to leave her alone so she can take a hit of coke, which really drove home how affected she was.
I can see Patty lashing out if warned about Veronica, maybe saying that someone can be interested in her, and not just trying to use her to get to Teresa. She's pretty vulnerable right now.
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 2:17:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 2:17:00 PM EDT
Will anyone write summaries for La Pola? It's on Telefutura. Looks awesome-- I love the historical romances.
what other forums might this be posted on?
-mai tai
what other forums might this be posted on?
-mai tai
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 3:00:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 3:00:00 PM EDT
GENERAL
Mai tai, this particular area of Caray, Caray is dedicated to telenovelas appearing on the Telemundo network. We would not be writing anything about a novela on Telefutura.
I tried to find the email address for the creator of the blog, Chapel Hill Fiddler, but could not seem to locate it on the home page. You might suggest a spot for a Telefutura novela.
Mai tai, this particular area of Caray, Caray is dedicated to telenovelas appearing on the Telemundo network. We would not be writing anything about a novela on Telefutura.
I tried to find the email address for the creator of the blog, Chapel Hill Fiddler, but could not seem to locate it on the home page. You might suggest a spot for a Telefutura novela.
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 5:47:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 5:47:00 PM EDT
Good stuff Juanita and Novelera!
-S...Your post regarding Pote and Teo is perfect. Couldn't agree more.
I will say it again and realize that all of you don't feel the same, it's just my opinion..
This Teo is a putz. I couldn't even buy it when Teresa was telling Oleg and then Patty how she felt about him. The stuff with Santiago was so freaking real and this is so fake I can't take it haha. This guy is 100% putz with no game.
-S...Your post regarding Pote and Teo is perfect. Couldn't agree more.
I will say it again and realize that all of you don't feel the same, it's just my opinion..
This Teo is a putz. I couldn't even buy it when Teresa was telling Oleg and then Patty how she felt about him. The stuff with Santiago was so freaking real and this is so fake I can't take it haha. This guy is 100% putz with no game.
Hahaha, Rand! Totally cracked up with your post. Teo reminds me of the textbook jerk who will tell you everything he thinks you want to hear to get you in the sack. Teresa was right about Santiago: he looked at her like no one else could. That man could melt ice just by looking at it. And he always looked 100% smitten and enraptured by her. Guero was completely charming and honest. This dude? Please. You're right: no game.
I can't believe we get no Reina tonight. Sigh.
-S
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I can't believe we get no Reina tonight. Sigh.
-S
Permalink posted by : Friday, April 22, 2011 at 10:50:00 PM EDT
: Friday, April 22, 2011 at 10:50:00 PM EDT
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