Caray, Caray!

Tony, do you like movies about gladiators?

Carlos
 

A very powerful performance by Peniche. It was very touching when Hipólita reached out just as he pulled away.

It's going to be hot, hot, hot at Perla's tonight. I originally thought Perla would end up with Marcos, but now I think it will be Antonio. Probably those like Antonio can perform better with a puta, nothing to prove, it's paid for.

Perla fell out of favor with Marcos with the Hipólita kidnapping.
Now who is Marcos going to end up with, got to be someone!!
 

Moving picture Carlos & not in a good way.
Variopinta

That was me in the previous post too
 

We need to send Davíd from Fuerza to Perla's also.

Variopinta
 

Yikes, what a story from Antonio today.
 

Poor Antonio. I hope that now that he's told his story to someone, he can find some peace. Perhaps he and Perla should ride off into the sunset together.

Variopinta- Yes, David from LFdD needs some Perla therapy too. :)

So, what did Antonio decide to do about Hip and Rafael? Did he declare Hip his wife and Rafa her child?
 

Hipo has been very afraid that Antonio won't love Rafael as his own, and may even resent him because of everything involved with Luis.

If she had been in the meeting with the regidor, she would've seen that her worries are well founded. Essentially:
Tony: I want my marriage recognized. I have witnesses, it's on the record, the count will vouch for me, I'm married, and doggone, I want it recognized. Oh, and by the way, Hipo should be listed as the kid's mom.
Regidor: Are you sure you want to do that?
Tony: Well, my wife wants it.
Regidor: She could be charged with adultery.
Tony: Oh, well, you can't say I didn't try.
 

"He would come to regret not asking if the boy suffered from motion sickness *before* taking him on the carousel."
 

I think this is one of Arturo Peniche's best performances; I was shaking during this.

This trauma, along with his demonic mother, would have driven a lesser man to suicide.
 

I guess even as a lad, Antonio liked the frilly clothes. As this novela progresses, we will see just how complicated this character is. I did notice that after his night with the amazing Perla, Antonio donned a much more masculine outfit. I don't think we will be seeing him in those pastel colored coats with all the embroidery anymore.
 

Kids didn't get to pick out clothes in those days.

I have a few issues with the clothes in this series. The men's clothing is less accurate than the women's, with three different centuries in evidence. I wish this had been as accurate as Amor Real.
 

Peniche's performance in this episode was a tour de force. I remember it blew me away at the time and it still did today.

Paula, thank you for posting. Carlos, your screen shot is amazing.
 

Urban A - Three centuries? Well, you know how guys are about clothes. They hate to throw their old things away.

(Joking, of course... I assume you mean that at least some of the outfits are truly anachronistic, i.e. fashions that didn't even exist yet!)

As for kids picking out their clothes - heck, I didn't get to pick out my clothes at that age, either. My parents' photo album is full of pix of me wearing plaid corduroy pants and other abominations from the early 70s, purchased either at Grant's or from the Sears catalog.
 

Love those plaid pants stories, Julie. I'm sure my children harbor similar horrific memories.

As for me, not only did I not pick out my clothes as a child, I got to wear the same outfit for years because my mother dressed my sister and me alike, so wearing her hand-me-downs was my first taste of what the word "eternity" meant.
 

Isn't it the case that children that were abused turn out to be child abusers? Not always but...If I was Hip I would get out of there.

My mother always cut my hair short and I hated it!
 

Chuchi- One of the things that came to my mind is that the abused often become abusers, but I doubt they had that knowledge back then. Also, it seems that if Antonio had those tendencies to abuse, he would have done so to some young child long ago. As a patron on an estate, I'm sure he had access to lots of young children. He's never done anything before, so why now. However, I do wonder if he's scared of himself, and for that reason he has distanced himself from Rafael. Remember how Hip pointed out that he didn't even look at Rafa the last time he visited. Perhaps he is afraid of himself.
 

If this is 1820, the men should all be dressed like characters in Jan Austen's novels: White shirts, close-fitting vests, knee breeches, cutaway jackets (usually with swallowtails), white silk stockings, and either buckled shoes or Hession boots. Short hair, known as the "Brutus cut", was the fashion. Clean-shaven was usual, although sideburns were coming into fashion. Lace and frills would be mostly gone on male clothing.

The long hair, pointed beard, and bucket-top boots on Luis are more Three Musketeers-period, almost two centuries earlier (This must be because FC looks so sexy with long hair). The long-queued hair on Diego and most of his clothes are 18th-century, from about the French Revolution period. You'd think he's be more up to date in his wardrobe considering his constant assertion of his title.

The ladies' wardrobes are better, although the pagoda sleeves (see Catalina in Ep 61) would be gone; they don't balance with the Empire-waisted dresses. And why would Juana be wearing her jewels all day at home? Not very practical to me.
 

Early in the show, we had a discussion about the men's wardrobe. I know little about the subject, so I'm just telling what I recall from that discussion.

This TN is set between 1789 (Fr. Rev.) and 1810 (Mex. Ind.). After the Fr. Rev., men's fashion changed quickly and drastically, from ornate to much more simple.

The earlier discussion suggested that Diego still wore the pre-1789 styles, trying to still live in the age of aristocrats' total power. "I have a title, so I can do whatever I d@#n well please." Luis, OTOH, has the more modern attitude of human equality. So his clothing reflects the more plain post-Fr. Rev. styles.

As for the long hair and bucket top boots, that I don't know about.