Sunday, August 14, 2011
La Pola - August 8-12, 2011 - Discussion Page
Ladies and Gentlemen: This was another action-packed adventure in Cundinamarca (sp?). The biggest surprise was the transformation of Col. Baraya from Nariño's loyal friend and ally to a power-hungry general in the army under the leadership of Don Camilo Torres and his revolutionary gang. Don Jorge Tadeo has thrown in the towel and Nariño steps forward to lead Santa Fé with his characteristic idealism and belief in the Rights of Man.
Domingo is going over the edge. He is obsessed with impregnating Catarina, which we know he will never be capable of doing. With the help of his flunky Ciro he learns more and more about what has been going on in the storage hut. He now begins to think the unthinkable - that Juliano and Catarina have had a love affair and that one of the children, that is, one of Acacia's twins is the product of that affair. After trying unsuccessfully to brand the little boy like a head of cattle he orders Ciro to get rid of him - kill him. What will be Cata's fate now?
Pola is committed to the revolution. All males over the age of 15 are ordered to serve in the army of Santa Fé. That means that Pedrito and Vivianito must become soldiers in an army that is outnumbered by thousands.
Nariño in the ultimate act of nobility presents himself before Baraya in an attempt to make a deal to save the city. It is a futile attempt.
Arcos sees things as they are and doesn't want to fight for a bunch of chapetones who don't care about the local people. Alejo still professes loyalty to the king. Pola, of course, cannot accept that.
Domingo is going over the edge. He is obsessed with impregnating Catarina, which we know he will never be capable of doing. With the help of his flunky Ciro he learns more and more about what has been going on in the storage hut. He now begins to think the unthinkable - that Juliano and Catarina have had a love affair and that one of the children, that is, one of Acacia's twins is the product of that affair. After trying unsuccessfully to brand the little boy like a head of cattle he orders Ciro to get rid of him - kill him. What will be Cata's fate now?
Pola is committed to the revolution. All males over the age of 15 are ordered to serve in the army of Santa Fé. That means that Pedrito and Vivianito must become soldiers in an army that is outnumbered by thousands.
Nariño in the ultimate act of nobility presents himself before Baraya in an attempt to make a deal to save the city. It is a futile attempt.
Arcos sees things as they are and doesn't want to fight for a bunch of chapetones who don't care about the local people. Alejo still professes loyalty to the king. Pola, of course, cannot accept that.
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Thank you for bringing us up to date so beautifully on this brilliant series.
This week, I’ve been thinking about how, even during revolutionary times, not everyone is susceptible to change.
Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Only one. But the lightbulb really has to want to change.
In real life, people are remarkably resistant to change. Sure, veneers wear off or grow more polished over time but there’s a core that persists – or at least that’s what I’ve come to believe.
Still ... in La Pola a few key characters do change and significantly:
For the better:
Catarina starts out as a selfish, conceited girl who believes the genetic accident of light skin makes her a more valuable commodity than her sisters. Her marriage to Domingo is strictly business. Falling in love with the black slave Juliano and becoming the mother of his child turns her world upside down. She learns empathy; she thinks past her own needs; and she begins to look beyond skin color to the soul inside. She becomes valiant and capable of self-sacrifice.
Magdalena (Nariño’s late wife) changes more subtly so maybe she doesn’t really belong in this category. At first she is an ordinary woman married to an extraordinary man. When her ordinary expectations of marriage are unmet, she turns to an ordinary man, Jorge Tadeo, to fulfill them. Later she learns to appreciate, honor and ultimately, to deeply love the extraordinary man she married, Antonio Nariño.
For the worse:
Domingo Trujillo, when we first meet him, is a loyal and generous friend to Pola’s family and a former freedom fighter. Now he is so consumed by jealousy and hatred that he is a wife-beater and a drunk; he nearly kills the alcade, Andrés, the man he has until now thought of as his best friend; and he is willing to order the death of tiny Joaquín to get even with his unfaithful wife. Even Ciro, who has not hesitated to obey Domingo’s orders -- and sometimes wishes his amo would be harsher -- flinches at the charge he has just been given. (I don’t think he’ll be able to carry it out though; like the woodsman in Snow White, he’ll spare the child’s life. Or is that just wishful thinking on my part? Sigh.)
Baraya, an honorable soldier and Antonio’s lifelong friend, is seduced by the rhetoric of the opposition into betrayal. He not only betrays Nariño and the people of Santafé, he betrays himself and everything he has valued up to now. He knows that Nariño is telling the truth – his old friend is no tyrant and his predictions about the threat of European attack ring sickeningly true – but his pride won’t allow him to admit it. Not only does he refuse to allow Santafé to surrender honorably, he orders his men to sack the city to make up for the hollow promises of increased pay that he used to entice the men to follow him in the first place.
Others may have developed what they started with but have remained true to their essential selves, for ill or good:
La Pola
Alejo
Don Antonio Nariño
Don Jorge Tadeo
Don Francisco (Alejo’s father)
Gertrudis
Carbonel
Some are in crisis and have not yet declared themselves:
María Ignacia
María Teresa (Alejo’s mother)
Sámano, another one who is likely to end up just as he began (only more so), is about to burst back onto the scene accompanied by Alejo’s brother, Leandro. I wonder what Leandro will make of the what he finds and which side he will end up on...
This week, I’ve been thinking about how, even during revolutionary times, not everyone is susceptible to change.
Q: How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Only one. But the lightbulb really has to want to change.
In real life, people are remarkably resistant to change. Sure, veneers wear off or grow more polished over time but there’s a core that persists – or at least that’s what I’ve come to believe.
Still ... in La Pola a few key characters do change and significantly:
For the better:
Catarina starts out as a selfish, conceited girl who believes the genetic accident of light skin makes her a more valuable commodity than her sisters. Her marriage to Domingo is strictly business. Falling in love with the black slave Juliano and becoming the mother of his child turns her world upside down. She learns empathy; she thinks past her own needs; and she begins to look beyond skin color to the soul inside. She becomes valiant and capable of self-sacrifice.
Magdalena (Nariño’s late wife) changes more subtly so maybe she doesn’t really belong in this category. At first she is an ordinary woman married to an extraordinary man. When her ordinary expectations of marriage are unmet, she turns to an ordinary man, Jorge Tadeo, to fulfill them. Later she learns to appreciate, honor and ultimately, to deeply love the extraordinary man she married, Antonio Nariño.
For the worse:
Domingo Trujillo, when we first meet him, is a loyal and generous friend to Pola’s family and a former freedom fighter. Now he is so consumed by jealousy and hatred that he is a wife-beater and a drunk; he nearly kills the alcade, Andrés, the man he has until now thought of as his best friend; and he is willing to order the death of tiny Joaquín to get even with his unfaithful wife. Even Ciro, who has not hesitated to obey Domingo’s orders -- and sometimes wishes his amo would be harsher -- flinches at the charge he has just been given. (I don’t think he’ll be able to carry it out though; like the woodsman in Snow White, he’ll spare the child’s life. Or is that just wishful thinking on my part? Sigh.)
Baraya, an honorable soldier and Antonio’s lifelong friend, is seduced by the rhetoric of the opposition into betrayal. He not only betrays Nariño and the people of Santafé, he betrays himself and everything he has valued up to now. He knows that Nariño is telling the truth – his old friend is no tyrant and his predictions about the threat of European attack ring sickeningly true – but his pride won’t allow him to admit it. Not only does he refuse to allow Santafé to surrender honorably, he orders his men to sack the city to make up for the hollow promises of increased pay that he used to entice the men to follow him in the first place.
Others may have developed what they started with but have remained true to their essential selves, for ill or good:
La Pola
Alejo
Don Antonio Nariño
Don Jorge Tadeo
Don Francisco (Alejo’s father)
Gertrudis
Carbonel
Some are in crisis and have not yet declared themselves:
María Ignacia
María Teresa (Alejo’s mother)
Sámano, another one who is likely to end up just as he began (only more so), is about to burst back onto the scene accompanied by Alejo’s brother, Leandro. I wonder what Leandro will make of the what he finds and which side he will end up on...
NovelaMaven: What a great analysis. The characters I thought had changed a lot are Catarina and Baraya. But, as you noted, there are others, too.
The mayor suffered such an injustice at Domingo's hands. I just wonder if Catarina will be able to survive his madness.
Baraya was the biggest surprise. I cringed when he told his army that they were free to sack Santa Fé - and that included the women as well. What a beast he has become.
But, he is in for a bigger surprise when he finds out that he will have to reckon with Sámano who is now in Quito and that his former friend Nariño was right.
The mayor suffered such an injustice at Domingo's hands. I just wonder if Catarina will be able to survive his madness.
Baraya was the biggest surprise. I cringed when he told his army that they were free to sack Santa Fé - and that included the women as well. What a beast he has become.
But, he is in for a bigger surprise when he finds out that he will have to reckon with Sámano who is now in Quito and that his former friend Nariño was right.
I agree, great analysis, Novelamaven. Totally agree with your character decriptions... rhetoric convincing and ambition at their worst will drive Baraya into a NASTY reality check...
Hopefuly this time when Alejo goes to see Pola he will never go back to Baraya's troops... wonder if he would accept to train Narino's kids (can't say they are men), he has always been against blood shed.
Hopefuly this time when Alejo goes to see Pola he will never go back to Baraya's troops... wonder if he would accept to train Narino's kids (can't say they are men), he has always been against blood shed.
For one, I am loving watching this development... even if the stupidity of some folks stepped in the way of 'Nariño stepping forward to lead Santa Fé with his characteristic idealism and belief in the Rights of Many'. Great way to put it.
I am also enjoying the bumpy ride of Alejo's to re-program his soul in order to fully commit himself to the freedom cause.
Also enjoying Catalina's transformation.
I am also enjoying the bumpy ride of Alejo's to re-program his soul in order to fully commit himself to the freedom cause.
Also enjoying Catalina's transformation.
Pasofino and Marta,
Yes, Baraya's about-face is especially heartbreaking. He made a Faustian bargain for which so many people will suffer and he has only his own weakness to blame.
As for Domingo, I suppose you could argue that it was Catarina's own behavior that turned him into a monster.
Pasofino, I agree that the mayor was treated unfairly. Still, he was naive to think he could pursue Domingo's wife while pretending to be his best bud. Don Andrés always seemed like a lost soul in the new world: no stomach for committing atrocities but no guts to prevent them from occurring in his midst; and a fuzzy sense of personal boundaries. He'll be lucky to get back to Spain with his life. At some point, it won't be safe for anyone with sangre azul in this part of America. (I hope we don't see something terrible happen to Pola's protector, María Matea.)
Yes, Baraya's about-face is especially heartbreaking. He made a Faustian bargain for which so many people will suffer and he has only his own weakness to blame.
As for Domingo, I suppose you could argue that it was Catarina's own behavior that turned him into a monster.
Pasofino, I agree that the mayor was treated unfairly. Still, he was naive to think he could pursue Domingo's wife while pretending to be his best bud. Don Andrés always seemed like a lost soul in the new world: no stomach for committing atrocities but no guts to prevent them from occurring in his midst; and a fuzzy sense of personal boundaries. He'll be lucky to get back to Spain with his life. At some point, it won't be safe for anyone with sangre azul in this part of America. (I hope we don't see something terrible happen to Pola's protector, María Matea.)
Pasofino: Your weekly recap was an excellent example of how to capture the essence of a week's high-adventure in 5 paragraphs! The brevity highlighted how an astute writer can capture the key actions and caracters without the need for an exhaustive recap. Thank you for a job well-done!
BTW, although I understand Spanish fairly well, the CC3 (English) subtitles have not been appearing. Is anyome else having this problem recently?
BTW, although I understand Spanish fairly well, the CC3 (English) subtitles have not been appearing. Is anyome else having this problem recently?
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: Sunday, August 14, 2011 at 10:53:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, August 14, 2011 at 10:53:00 PM EDT
Chima: Thank you for your comment. It took me eight weeks of in-detail recaps, which were really translations, to find out that it could all be done in a much shorter version. This series has captivated my imagination. The writers have done such a great job of weaving history and fiction into a fine story.
Thanks Pasofino for a very crisp of last weeks presentation. Nicely done.
Thanks as well, NovelaMaven for your character analyses.
I'm especially shocked and disappointed in Barraya. What a change. Remember how helpful he was when Nariño was wasting in prison.
I was appalled but not surprised by Domingo's reaction and decision. I believe that he has the capacity to rethink his drastic action. I don't care for Ciro, but I don't think that he is capable of murdering a child. Also, he is sweet on Acacia and may still believe that Juaquín is her child. I don't recall Domingo doing a lot of explaining.
My hope is that he realizes how much he loves Cata and decides to raise Juaquín as his own son... that seems unlikely at this point.
Carlos
Thanks as well, NovelaMaven for your character analyses.
I'm especially shocked and disappointed in Barraya. What a change. Remember how helpful he was when Nariño was wasting in prison.
I was appalled but not surprised by Domingo's reaction and decision. I believe that he has the capacity to rethink his drastic action. I don't care for Ciro, but I don't think that he is capable of murdering a child. Also, he is sweet on Acacia and may still believe that Juaquín is her child. I don't recall Domingo doing a lot of explaining.
My hope is that he realizes how much he loves Cata and decides to raise Juaquín as his own son... that seems unlikely at this point.
Carlos
Carlos: Yes, indeed. I was truly shocked by Baraya - especially when he invited the troops to sack Santa Fé for three days and to help themselves to anything, including the women. It's hard to believe he is the same person we met at the beginning of this tale.
As to Domingo, I don't have a clue. He seems to be drinking more and more and to be falling into the clutches of the local gossips.
Gertrudis deserves a large anvil. She has been, if not the cause, then the inspiration of so many of the problems facing Cata and Pola.
As to Domingo, I don't have a clue. He seems to be drinking more and more and to be falling into the clutches of the local gossips.
Gertrudis deserves a large anvil. She has been, if not the cause, then the inspiration of so many of the problems facing Cata and Pola.
Wow, what an exciting show tonight. Alejo is turning into quite the military strategist.
Domingo was brutal... but he didn't kill Juliano. Juliano may be right, hat he's waiting to kill him and Cata together. I'd rather think that he'll be forgiving. I sure hope that Ciro hasn't harmed Joaquín. I'm betting that he hasn't.
I watched the first episode of la Hija del Mariachi. It stars Pola (Rosario) and boy, can she sing.
Lots of pretty girls, pretty boys, and pretty cars.
Carlos
Domingo was brutal... but he didn't kill Juliano. Juliano may be right, hat he's waiting to kill him and Cata together. I'd rather think that he'll be forgiving. I sure hope that Ciro hasn't harmed Joaquín. I'm betting that he hasn't.
I watched the first episode of la Hija del Mariachi. It stars Pola (Rosario) and boy, can she sing.
Lots of pretty girls, pretty boys, and pretty cars.
Carlos
Sorry, Carlos, but that is not her voice. I can't remember the name of the singer, but one of the great things about this show is that the lipsyncing (is that a word?) is so good that you believe it is the actors singing.
Kayzie
Kayzie
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 7:52:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 7:52:00 AM EDT
Not la Pola singing?
Alfonso (TdA) is Emiliano?
That's not him singing either?
Yikes!
Well, the lipsyncing sure fooled me. The music is a real treat.
Carlos
Alfonso (TdA) is Emiliano?
That's not him singing either?
Yikes!
Well, the lipsyncing sure fooled me. The music is a real treat.
Carlos
I am utterly falling in love with LHDM and i ahve only watched a couple of eps on telefutura and about 3 more online... WONDERFUL so far.
ITA about last night's show with Alejo becoming the military geek for Antonio... GREAT!@!
Col has a name now! Col Rodriguez... and he had a hissy fit yelling (CARA__) time and time again when the stupid sargeant called for 'retirada!!' too funny.
great teamwork between Cap Daily/Baily? and Alejo... and great for Antonio to give Alejo the officer role instead of sending him to get executed.. LOVED the faces of fear in Arcos, first when Pola had them go talk to Antonio, then a total fearful face when Alejo said that he expected Antonio to decide his fate (and Arcos') as a dictator (both Pola and Arcos turned to Alejo like What the heck are u doing??) then Antonio offering Alejo the officer job (and Arcos just smiled, closed his eyes and praised God for saving his life LOL!!!)
Col has a name now! Col Rodriguez... and he had a hissy fit yelling (CARA__) time and time again when the stupid sargeant called for 'retirada!!' too funny.
great teamwork between Cap Daily/Baily? and Alejo... and great for Antonio to give Alejo the officer role instead of sending him to get executed.. LOVED the faces of fear in Arcos, first when Pola had them go talk to Antonio, then a total fearful face when Alejo said that he expected Antonio to decide his fate (and Arcos') as a dictator (both Pola and Arcos turned to Alejo like What the heck are u doing??) then Antonio offering Alejo the officer job (and Arcos just smiled, closed his eyes and praised God for saving his life LOL!!!)
does anyone know the surname of the 'alferez' that helped Baily with the 'golpe de mano'? that guy was in the first ep too...
I just can't even put into words how much I love this novela. I'm amazed that every night is something new and interesting - no filler in this one! The writing is amazing! All novela writers should take lessons from the writers of La Pola!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 11:58:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 11:58:00 AM EDT
Chima,
ITA that PasoFino did a Masterful job summing up the whole week in 5 paragraphs... I have to work on my 'condensing' my recaps... maybe I can cut them down to no more than 1 page or so... lol i tend to transcribe too many scenes word for word... just ask whoever follows my Corazon salvaje, cafe, eva luna or now Betty la fea recaps.
ITA that PasoFino did a Masterful job summing up the whole week in 5 paragraphs... I have to work on my 'condensing' my recaps... maybe I can cut them down to no more than 1 page or so... lol i tend to transcribe too many scenes word for word... just ask whoever follows my Corazon salvaje, cafe, eva luna or now Betty la fea recaps.
now, a question to discuss on... is Baraya too deep on the 'dark side' to be able to change his mind AGAIN and try to right the ship?
Was the first attack on Narino's young boys the 'line crossing' moment where there is no return from?
Line Novelamaven said so accurately, Baraya is kidding his army and even himself into believing the side he is on is the right one... but he knows Narino much better than he is willing to admit. He knows Narino would not become the tyrant that Camilo Torres and Caldas made him out to be. So will he have the guts to turn around again? We all know most of the soldiers will follow his lead, as Alejo said, most of them agree with Narino's ideas anyway.
Was the first attack on Narino's young boys the 'line crossing' moment where there is no return from?
Line Novelamaven said so accurately, Baraya is kidding his army and even himself into believing the side he is on is the right one... but he knows Narino much better than he is willing to admit. He knows Narino would not become the tyrant that Camilo Torres and Caldas made him out to be. So will he have the guts to turn around again? We all know most of the soldiers will follow his lead, as Alejo said, most of them agree with Narino's ideas anyway.
Carlos,
I looked up the singers for La Hija del Mariachi. They are:
Adriana Bottina -- Rosario
Jairo del Valle -- Emiliano (soon
to be Francisco)
Alejandro Scarpeta -- el Coloso
Jairo del Valle is one of the mariachis in this telenovela, and his name in it is Jairo. I think he is the only bonafide mariachi in the group. The rest are actors, but they too look like they are actually playing the music. It's amazing.
Kayzie
I looked up the singers for La Hija del Mariachi. They are:
Adriana Bottina -- Rosario
Jairo del Valle -- Emiliano (soon
to be Francisco)
Alejandro Scarpeta -- el Coloso
Jairo del Valle is one of the mariachis in this telenovela, and his name in it is Jairo. I think he is the only bonafide mariachi in the group. The rest are actors, but they too look like they are actually playing the music. It's amazing.
Kayzie
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 2:22:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 2:22:00 PM EDT
Martaivett: I'm hoping that more of Baraya's soldiers follow the lead of Alejo and Arcos. Baraya's behavior defies all logic. The successful golpe de mano seems to have enraged him even more. He practically tore Rodriguez' head off. Chances of his turning around: slim to nil.
Agreed that last night's was a fabulous, exciting episode. Battle scenes are not usually my thing but the human drama here was amazing.
Great question, Marta, about Baraya's likelihood of flipping back. I think Pasofino's right -- he's dug in and is unlikely to change even if he privately realizes he chose badly. His pride just won't allow it.
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I also watched the first episode of La Hija del Mariachi and so far, I'm enchanted. It's got everything -- wonderful music, pretty, skillful actors, clever plot (wit and action, an uncommon combo). I'm still smiling at the shtick about the lady detective realizing that Emiliano is missing because he's the guy who said she was gorda.
It's fun to see our Pola plying a trade with a slightly greater life expectancy than Founding Mother. And Alonso cleans up good.
Great question, Marta, about Baraya's likelihood of flipping back. I think Pasofino's right -- he's dug in and is unlikely to change even if he privately realizes he chose badly. His pride just won't allow it.
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I also watched the first episode of La Hija del Mariachi and so far, I'm enchanted. It's got everything -- wonderful music, pretty, skillful actors, clever plot (wit and action, an uncommon combo). I'm still smiling at the shtick about the lady detective realizing that Emiliano is missing because he's the guy who said she was gorda.
It's fun to see our Pola plying a trade with a slightly greater life expectancy than Founding Mother. And Alonso cleans up good.
Kazie, thanks for that information. I really enjoyed the show last night, especially the music. That lady cop really took it personally that Emiliano called her gorda. Then her boss tells her to cover up... pobrecita.
I'm really looking forward to tonight's episode of la Pola. I'm riveted by all the excitement going on, but I want to check in on Francisco. I've been missing him.
Carlos
I'm really looking forward to tonight's episode of la Pola. I'm riveted by all the excitement going on, but I want to check in on Francisco. I've been missing him.
Carlos
I am watching LHDM on what I believe is a west coast version of Telefutura, in a channel > 600 in my widstream. the local telefutura is not showing it. hopefully my husband will not stop our windstream contract, he has been talking about going back to comcast.
love Carolina Ramirez in it (is that her first name?) IS she related in any way to Natalia Ramirez (Marcela in Betty la Fea)?
love Carolina Ramirez in it (is that her first name?) IS she related in any way to Natalia Ramirez (Marcela in Betty la Fea)?
I don't know if she is related, but speaking of Betty La Fea, one of the Mariachis was in it. You will recognize him when you see him. He has a very important part in this.
Kayzie
Kayzie
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
I'm so put out with Ciro that I want to kill him myself. I was shouting a Cata, "Shoot him, shoot him!" I hoping that the worthless bastard sold Joaquín but I'm afraid that he is so stupid and so soulless that he actually did as he was told.
I'm loving the battle. I thought that Barraya was a military genius. Loving Pola as la Virgen.
Where's Francisco?
Carlos
I'm loving the battle. I thought that Barraya was a military genius. Loving Pola as la Virgen.
Where's Francisco?
Carlos
LHDM
I too thought that was Carolina Ramirez's real voice. 'had me fooled. Tacher's on the other hand didn't sound believable.
loving the visuals of this tn.
I too thought that was Carolina Ramirez's real voice. 'had me fooled. Tacher's on the other hand didn't sound believable.
loving the visuals of this tn.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 at 2:11:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 at 2:11:00 PM EDT
he's got a name!! thanks to Antonio and Pasofino..
he is Alferez Perez Delgado. (both father and mother's last names is commonly used for men in latin america...)
he is Alferez Perez Delgado. (both father and mother's last names is commonly used for men in latin america...)
what an exciting ep today!!
and what a line by Alejo!
My Gosh, the woman i love is totally crazy, and the more crazy she gets, the more I love her!
loved that Arcos went to get Alejo when Pola was on fire...
Now, was that a smile on Jose (older brother, the priest) when they learned that 'we had won'? Will he be up to marrying Pola and Alejo now?
previews sound great.
great that Narino will not make Salas go through what they made him go through...
and what a line by Alejo!
My Gosh, the woman i love is totally crazy, and the more crazy she gets, the more I love her!
loved that Arcos went to get Alejo when Pola was on fire...
Now, was that a smile on Jose (older brother, the priest) when they learned that 'we had won'? Will he be up to marrying Pola and Alejo now?
previews sound great.
great that Narino will not make Salas go through what they made him go through...
I was breathless after that battle. How inspiring was it for Nariño to dress his daughters in those little uniforms and then light the cannon? Brilliant patriotic drama or child abuse?
I'm still holding out hope that that snake Ciro sold little Joaquín, but he's so stupid, It probably never even occurred to him. That would have certainly been evil... but a lot better than killing the little tyke.
I'm ready for some serious romance between Pola and Alejo.
I want to check in with Francisco... I miss him.
Oh... and I'm still enjoying la Hija... I know he's not the good guy but I can't help but like Bowser (el Coloso).
Carlos
Carlos
I'm still holding out hope that that snake Ciro sold little Joaquín, but he's so stupid, It probably never even occurred to him. That would have certainly been evil... but a lot better than killing the little tyke.
I'm ready for some serious romance between Pola and Alejo.
I want to check in with Francisco... I miss him.
Oh... and I'm still enjoying la Hija... I know he's not the good guy but I can't help but like Bowser (el Coloso).
Carlos
Carlos
LHDM
I wish this was also CC3'd like La Pola. I did not understand what was going on when "she" (I don't know their character names by heart yet) introduced "him" to the rest of the band.
I wish this was also CC3'd like La Pola. I did not understand what was going on when "she" (I don't know their character names by heart yet) introduced "him" to the rest of the band.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, August 18, 2011 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, August 18, 2011 at 12:53:00 PM EDT
LOVED LOVED LOVED last night's ep... complete with Pola virgin on fire, a bit of roughing up Alejo (after the troops retreated).
Carlos, I am with you, ready for some serious romance between Pola and Alejo.
the previews for tonight look great.. loved how Baraya will have to go back to Torres and the coucil and say 'they beat the crap out of us' thanks to the Holy Virgin.
Carlos, I am with you, ready for some serious romance between Pola and Alejo.
the previews for tonight look great.. loved how Baraya will have to go back to Torres and the coucil and say 'they beat the crap out of us' thanks to the Holy Virgin.
we got a little bit of that romantic bliss Pola/Alejo you were asking for Carlos... and then some... Alejo showed his CO____ last night... to Sabio Caldas... and paid homage to Pola, which was very nice to watch.
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