Monday, November 07, 2011

La Fuerza del Destino #66 Mon 11/07/11 The Galvan Brothers Could Teach a Course on Un-Romantic Marriage Proposals

All the ads are telling us that this is a “nueva etapa”, but it’s looking more like a crappy etapa since it starts off with our galan bumping little cars with Satan’s Spawn…AGAIN! But how much damage can the writers do to our psyche in 35 episodes? Right??? Let’s see…

Ivan throws a tantrum in the game room about his own stupidity, having sex with MP, again. Tony looks like he’s about to slap him silly, but seeing that Ivan must have already lost all his senses, since he slept with the evil ho, he decides to just talk sense to him. From this moment on, Lucia is dead to him (a lost cause). The next morning, said evil ho is shocked to wake up by herself. Ivan makes an early and hasty retreat with Alex. In the car Ivan and Alex are discussing all the sports he wants to play. Ivan asks how long it’s been since he called his Papa Gerry, Caro and Lucia. It’s been a while so Ivan encourages him to call so that they don’t get sad.

Tony calls Camilo to get the phone number for Ranch Socorro. At the ranch, they’re all moved in and Lucia’s started school. Carly gets Tony’s call and she apologizes for being out of touch. They chit chat about how their peeps are, then Tony gets right to the point and tells Carly to get Lucia to move on with her life (‘cause Ivan isn’t worth being sad about). He lets her know Ivan and MP are living as true man and wife. Carly can’t believe it. (Neither can we Carly!) Is he stupid or what, to fall again for that whore of a granddaughter of hers? She wonders if the only thing controlling Ivan are his…(she makes a cupping gesture) “desires”? Tony tries to smooth it over by saying Ivan’s just trying to make a normal family life for his son. Carly’s not having it. He’s shameless! Lucia can make her life with someone else. Carly doesn’t even want to speak to Tony again, and if he wants to take back their loan, do it! She hangs up on him. She tells Teodoro’s painting that all men are the same, even him (he did have an illegitimate daughter after all). Tony defends his actions to Bruno. Then he asks Bruno if he has a girlfriend. If not, he’ll find one for him.

At the office, Ivan has a bit of a psycho moment and yells at himself to NOT let it happen again.

Camilo arrives at the ranch to show Carly the books. She gets right to pressing him about asking Lucia to marry him. “Ivan is like my brother. He’s helped me a lot.” Carly tells him that Ivan has forgotten Lucia and she got it from a close source, Tony. Camilo can’t believe that Ivan slept with MP. Carly thinks kids these days just go where their hormones take them (says the lady who got pregnant out of wedlock by some guy who was just passing through town). She tells him that Lucia cares about him (querer).

Lucrezia interrupts their conversation. Without her even prying, they come right out and tell her Lucia’s business. She’s preggers and Camilo wants to do right by her. Camilo claims to be the father when Lucrezia asks! (Wait a minute! First they blab Lucia’s business. Then they create a lie for her! WTF?!) Lucrezia starts to lament how the story is being repeated (2 daughters impregnated by servants, out of wedlock) and wonders what SHE did wrong. She has enough sense to ask when this happened since Lucia was with Ivan and then so hung up on him. Camilo claims it was after Ivan left when Lucia was feeling alone, sad and vulnerable, and one thing led to another. Since it’s all about Lucrezia, she turns it into a personal tragedy. Everyone is going to think her daughters are whores!

Lucia arrives home completely oblivious to the fact that her grandmother and Camilo have just invented a new past, present and future for her, without her consent. Camilo greets her as she exits her car and says they need to talk. They stand next to the noisy fountain to make comprehension just that much more difficult for us. Cam admits he knows she’s preggers and that he wants to marry her. To him it’s not a sacrifice. “I love you Lucia. I’ve loved you from the first moment I met you.” He hugs her and Lucia looks completely shell shocked.

Judith tells JJ that she is not “getting back together” with Cam. It’s her life. JJ does not like being disobeyed. Judith says she’ll leave the house like her brothers. JJ scoffs at this. She doesn’t know how to do anything. Not even how find a man who will support her. Judith asks how he can treat his daughter like this. We all know how effective it is to talk to JJ about feelings and decency, and trivial stuff like that.

Carly catches Lucia as she comes into the house and tells her about the lie that she and Cam invented for her. Lucia is shockingly not pissed about this. Lucrezia isn’t as dumb as they think. She tells them she knows Lucia, and she knows how in love she is with Ivan, so she KNOWS this baby is Ivan’s, not Camilo’s. Lucia admits it.

Anto brings Caro flowers and out of the blue proposes…that they live together. She’s not offended by this, but does ask if he wants them to live together, without being married. To him it’s all the same, married or not married. Whatever she wants. He has a fixed job and a salary now, and isn’t in danger of being killed and dumped in the gutter. Now that Alex is gone, Caro doesn’t want to abandon Gerry. He’ll be all alone. “Your brother-in-law is a grown man.” (hombre hecho y derecho) “Princess, I want to be alone with you. I want to make love to you. Have babies with you. Wouldn’t you like that?” Caro is scared that her blindness will prevent her from taking care of their babies, and she doesn’t want to take advantage of his mother, although she has no issue with living with her. Anto suggests surgery as an option, but Caro doesn’t want him to waste so much money again. She’s scared, and Anto tries to kiss her worries away.

Although Lucrezia now knows who the real daddy is, she is still on board with the marry Camilo plan. She wants the wedding right away, before Lucia is showing. Lucia wants a small civil wedding at the ranch since she doesn’t think it right to get married in the Church already pregnant. The only other thing she requests is that no one tells MP or Ivan that she’s getting married. Lucrezia can’t believe they aren’t going to tell/invite the Mondragons.

In front of the noisy fountain, Lucia gives Cam the rundown on the wedding plans. Whatever she wants, he’s on board with it. He plans on building a house on his part of the land. In the meantime, they can rent an apartment since he’s sure she wouldn’t want to live with his mother. Lucia suggests they live in the big ranch house with her mom and grandmother (don’t do it!). Cam will do what she wants. He asks if she thinks one day she could love him. She tells him she hopes to and asks for time. He agrees and kisses her.

Lucia tells Carly again that she doesn’t want Ivan to know about the wedding, mostly for Camilo’s sake. Carly doesn’t think it matters since Ivan is living HAPPILY with his MUJER and son. Lucia is surprised to hear the happily part and Carly tries to brush it off. Lucia admits that although she wasn’t scared to be a single mother, she does think it’s good that her child will have a father.

In L.A., Ivan arrives home, greets Benito, and goes up to see Alex. Alex asks for help with his math homework.

Celia wonders if Lucia will be able to come to love Camilo as much as she loves Ivan. Camilo is not feeling as guilty as he was about it all a few days ago, and tells Celia about Ivan doing the horizontal mambo with MP. Celia is as shocked as we were. “But he hates her.” Celia thinks it must be a lie, then thinks Ivan just gave into his manly urges. She’s more worried about Cam getting hurt in this whole deal. Since he’s made up his mind, she gives him her blessing. Camilo promises he’ll win Lucia over (conquistarla).

MP has made herself comfortable on Ivan’s bed in her negligee. She is not deterred when Ivan says last night was a mistake and meant nothing. She thinks it meant that he still desires her. He tells her she has no pride/shame. This also doesn’t deter her so he pulls out the big guns and tells her he only saw and felt Lucia; he made love to Lucia last night. MP pauses for a half second, then goes in for the major mouth meld after saying it was HER he made love to. He pries her loose and they proceed to have a staring contest.

Carmen tells Camilo that she wants to study English and computation. If she really wants to study, then he’ll pay for it AND give her an allowance (mensualidad)! (He is obviously in a good mood.) Carmen can’t believe how easy that was. Celia tells her to stay on the straight and narrow or she’ll take away that allowance.

Anto and Gordo run into each other on the street. Gordo wonders if Anto caused Saul’s accident. Anto sticks to his divine justice story, while making it clear that’s the kind of justice that befalls anyone who messes with his family. He then tells the permanently scarred Gordo that he’ll see him around…in the mirror (espejo). Gordo makes a call to Casa Mondragon and pretends to be a friend of Saul’s to get info about his whereabouts. Esther tells him and he hangs up before she can get the name of this “good friend.”

MP is going out with her friends… again. Ivan tries to find out who these friends are and why they can’t meet them, and to convince her to rein in her spending since she’s once again exceeded her limit. She flounces off while he’s still yelling. Tony advises him to just raise her limit, let her do what she wants, and have peace in the house. Ivan can’t control himself since he HATES her!

Outside, Alex asks Maria and Benito why his parents fight so much. If they can’t get along, then they shouldn’t have gotten married. (Right on Alex!) Benito tries to cheer him up and tells him to be patient. Alex is too depressed by it all to even play with Bruno.

Despite the plea to keep the wedding intimate, Lucrezia is trying to invite people like the gossipy school mistress Olga who fired Lucia, and the Meandragons. Carly accepts the Meandragons, as long as JJ doesn’t tell Tony about the wedding.

Lucia finds a shirtless, sweaty, chiseled, uhm… where was I? Oh, yeah. Lucia finds Camilo working hard in the fields. She wants them to talk to her father, and she asks Cam once again if he has any regrets. Nope! And to show her, he sweeps her up into his manly, toned, strong, uhm…where was I? He picks her up into his arms, twirls her around, and gives her a gentle kiss. (Lucia is just as boring of a kisser with Camilo as she was with Ivan, but at least his kisses aren’t like a Hoover.)

They walk hand in hand through the part of the ranch house that isn’t finished yet, but will be theirs. They find Gerry and tell him they want to marry. He looks like he just swallowed his own tongue at this news, but finds it when he talks to Carly and Lucrezia later. He can’t believe it, since Lucia was just moping about Ivan five seconds ago! He thinks it’s too sudden and knows something is up (hay gato cerrado/there’s a cat in a bag/locked up). Carly talks about how depressed Lucia has been and now just wants to turn over a new leaf. Gerry thinks there’s a big difference between querer (to care for/love) and amar (romantic love/passionate love), and Lucia does not “ama” Camilo. Lucrezia brings up the fact that he didn’t “amar” his second wife, and they married mainly for Alex. “That was different. There was a child to think of. Hey, Lucia’s not pregnant is she?!” The Curiel women do what they do best, lie and deny. But they beg him not to let the McGuires know about the wedding.

Tomorrow: La boda de Lucia y Camilo!

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Thanks, Vivi, and this was a depressing episode.

It makes no sense for Ivan to not hear about MP's nasty remarks to Alex. And if he means to keep MO out of his bed he'd better get a lock for the door.

Now he's in the US and it is normal to have locks on one's doors.

Tony must be thinking "Ivan, you've made your bed and now you must lie in it" or he wouldn't have told Carlota what he did. Nor should she be enabling the Lucia/Camilo wedding.

Que lastima.
 

Vivi I loved your recap, you made an enjoyable account of a TN that is not going the way anyone would like.
I loved your description of that scene in the field where Cam and Luc are making the best of it. I thought the same things-hmmm, as long as we have to be together, lets go...
One of the problems with this TN is that you kind of get mixed signals from the actors-Lucia flinches less with Cam and doesn't get that tiny frown between her eyebrows that she does when kissing Ivan. She till has a sanitary method of kissing, though.
Of course, you want to talk about a hoover, MP is definately a high power model. I can't believe I am writing this...35 episode to go, huh. Can't imagine how they are going to straighten out this birds nest.
 

Lucía wants Camilo to give her time, pobre Camilo, no sex.

My vacuum is a Hoover Wind Tunnel, that's a good description of MP.

Tks Vivi for the recap, this TN is losing it's appeal but not the recaps.

Variopinta
 

MP pretty much signed her death warrant by a) being very mean to Alex, a child and b) sleeping with Ivan. She's going to have to die for Ivan and MP to get back together.

Camilo, I don't want him to die but they keep showing that crow more and more.

Carolina is being silly with the "how will I take care of a baby" spiel to Antolin. She took care of Alex, didn't she?

I can't feel sorry for Lucia not being with Ivan because he wanted to marry her on the spot and she was all "I'ont know, not like this, sometime in the future blah blah" But she can make a decision to marry Camilo on the spot? What?

Lucia just isn't ready to marry Ivan. Be happy with Camilo (who ain't bad to look at, honey).

And why isn't anyone telling Ivan how badly and nasty Maripaz has been treating Alex? I guess Tony figures if he told Ivan about MP's nasty comments to the boy that Ivan will immediately divorce MP, gain custody & try to get back with Lucia and that would open up a whole 'nother can of worms.
 

How to distract a Vivi: shirtless Gabriel Soto. :)

Tony and Carly/Lucrezia basically pushing their children to move on...it makes perfect sense considering the sheer messed-up-ness of the situation they've all been dragged into thanks to it's-all-about-Me-ripaz. (And it's fairly practical: Ivan and Lucia are going to pine for each other for x number of years and be celibate while he's raising his son with MP? Seriously? Novelalandia rules demand that they both try to move on while pining!) But damn it's depressing to see in this particular case...and it continues the Why The Hell Are You Protecting Them? thing that I'm starting to actually hate on this show.

As an aside, though, it's kind of fitting that Ivan and MP got the frosty civil ceremony while Camilo and Lucia--mainly Lucia--apparently get the actual cliche outdoor wedding with bells and whistles, going off the avances. I suppose they're saving the church wedding for episode 101.
 

Since there is no regular priest character in this novela the only religious ceremony will be for Ivan and Lucia in the finale. I suspect that the author, Maria Zarratini, isn't particularly religious because she was the lead writer for the 1993 Corazon Salvaje, Amor Real and its previous incarnation, Pasion, and a bunch of others that don't have a regular priest.

That being said, I think that this story probably needs one because of the small-town setting.

If I were a priest and heard all there was to know about Ivan and Maripaz, I would refuse to perform the ceremony.

The question now is whether Lucia and Camilo will consummate.
 

"How to distract a Vivi: shirtless Gabriel Soto."

Bill, you have figured me out. ;-) I wouldn't mind a shirtless David Z. or Marcelo C. either.

Yes, indeed. Will Lucia consumate the marriage? A girl's got needs right?

I think all these characters NEED a little spiritual guidance. A priest wouldn't be a bad idea. So far the town church has only been used from MP and Lucrezia to conspire about Ivan's return to town, and for Anto and Caro to conspire as well. Not a priest in sight either time.
 

I had forgotten that anyone even walked into one, but there was also Carolina and Antolin.

The lack of a priest in this novela is indeed very strange.
 

Vivi, this is very entertaining. Muchas gracias.

Lucia does seem more comfortable kissing Camilo than Ivan. If she had any sense she'd ditch both of them and go for David; he's the only decent eligible guy in the show.

Funny how concerned Esther is about Saul being stuck in the hospital in another town with no one to visit him, yet she can barely be bothered herself. Too busy with sitting around her gloomy cave waiting for JJ to yell at her, I guess. My parents are pretty hands-off, but I think if I were in the hospital in serious condition, my mother would probably camp out there. Oh, well, at least Saul has Gordo...
 

Vivi: Great recap.

Ivan has lost me as a fan. The moment he got together with Maripaz was the moment he became dead to me forever - to borrow another worn out phrase.

This is the craziest novela I've watched lately, but, I just keep watching it anyway. Could it be shirtless David Zepeda and Gabriel Soto? It sure isn't the story.
 

LOL Julia! I'm sure Saul will appreciate the visitor. Maybe Gordo will bring flowers like Anto?

What did others think of Anto's proposal? Let's live together, have sex, and have some babies! Yeah, I guess we can get married too.

I think Caro is more afraid of the unknown and really having to become the mistress of her own life and destiny. The taking care of a baby while being blind thing is just an excuse. Her life with Gerry is like a familiar comfort blanket that she's reluctant to give up. And she's already experienced a huge change with Alex leaving. I think she's scared of more changes.
 

So Camila has gotten some flack here, but here is why he'll be a better husband to Lucia than Ivan:
1. He's not married to her skank of a sister. 2. No temper issues that we've seen. 3. The shirtless scene. 'nuff said. 4. When he kisses her, it doesn't look like he's going to eat her face. 5. If they do ever have sex, it'll probably be in a bedroom. On a bed. Without birds.

Camilo is the best and that crow of death better stay away.
 

Thanks for your recap Vivi and last week's also. I've been juggling family and deadlines so I missed last week -- only recaps. You are so right about this being a crappy new phase of this TN. I understand why Jarocha told us it started well and then....
 

Antolín is hot, but being married to him would be cause for concern. He's such a bad boy & who knows what duties J J wants him to perform.

Variopinta
 

David Zepeda & Angelique are starting a new novela, "Abismos pasionales".

Variopinta
 

Great recap, Vivi.

All the talk about religious wedding ceremonies has me confused. MP wanted one but Ivan didn't. But how could they when MP got divorced from David. And Camilo divorced his first wife, so I would guess it should be a no-go for Lucia and Camilo.

OR did those two divorcees get annulments??? I don't think that was ever mentioned.

I know if Ivan and Lucia get together they could marry in church.

Ann-NYC
 

Vivi, I missed this pivotal episode. Loved your title and your recap was juicy and fun (as always).

"The Curiel women do what they do best, lie and deny". The perfect line. Gracias.

Diana
 

Variopinta, that makes me think THIS novela should have been named "Abysmal Passion."

I don't think we know if Camilo was married in the church previously. I guess it doesn't matter; Lucia isn't up for a church wedding.

This whole family is a gang of compulsive liars. I'm not sure it would ever occur to them to tell the truth immediately, even if they have nothing to gain by lying.
 

David & Maripaz did not have a church wedding. I think they were in JJ's back yard. And quite frankly they could have gotten the marriage annulled since David couldn't perform his husbandly duties and the marriage was never consummated.

It's not known whether Camilo & his first wife had a church wedding.
 

Thanks , Vivi. I always love to read your recaps. I haven't been watching any novelas since the Alborada recaps ended on Telefuturo and I lost interest in this novela. However, I surfed in to Fuerza last night for a few minutes . With my limited Spanish, I was able to figure out that 1]Ant asked Caro to sort of marry him 2] Ivan succumbed to Maripaz's evil charms ..spineless dope and 3] Cam asked Lucia to marry him. Urban A. ~~~ Amor Real had a rsident priest, the priest who raised Manuel . I think his name was Padre Urbano. He was a very important part of the storyline. Ivan's manly urges causing him to sleep with the devil reminded me of Manuel finally giving in to his skanky, nasty housekeeper's womanly urges .
 

Hey Susanlynn! Thanks for dropping in. What is up with these galans not being able to keep it in their pants when a skank is nearby?
 

THanks Vivi! I got a laugh out of your fountain comments. Drives me nuts when dialog is drowned out by fountains, bands, panting dogs.

I liked the "Camilo shirtless...where was I" portion as well. Lucia is definitely a "meh" smoocher. Soto is good with the kissy kissy.

Other than that, I hate where all this is going. There's a lot to fix in less than 40 episodes.
 

Vivi, thanks for another great recap of a not so great episode.

MP looks as if she could suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch.

Rosemary
 

I would find it hard to believe that any man could resist the nude, beautiful, skank MP standing before you and as Bill C said for worse or worse, she is unfortunately, your wife.

Variopinta
 

Variopinta, I agree. His inability to resist MP is what got him into this mess to begin with.

Rosemary
 

I'm now wondering if the writers could have drawn out Ivan's resistance to Maripaz, or Lucia's insistance on ignoring him, more to help mitigate the effect of his finally giving in to his (cupping motion) "desires." Maybe it was because they were under the gun episode count-wise, or were they just hellbent on getting a love scene on camera that didn't involve a pigeon coop or a wall...?
 

Bill, you are cracking me up today. LOL! Yes, the times Ivan has had sex with MP (also counting the teenage years) have been WAY more normal and down to earth than all those "romantic" love scenes he's had with Lucia.
 

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