Friday, December 09, 2011
Una Familia Con Suerte #46 Fri 12/9/11 There's no place like home, except maybe your other house
Alternate title: More baggage! More suitcases! More Brazil! And of course... MORE CRYING!!
Fer pensively kisses a Virgen de Guadalupe medallion that was once worn by a tiny little baby of her acquaintance. (We didn't see this last night, did we? It's so confusing when they show new stuff before old stuff.)
Lupita pensively kisses the medallion of her namesake (I had no idea that word was so controversial, see here) and thanks Virgencita for letting her live. (Has she had any brushes with death that we know of?)
Rerun of Pepe talking about wearing Mónica down like the sea crashing against the rocks. He appears to be making some headway with his elemental logic when she sees Enzo approach and says she doesn't want that; she just wants Pepe to go away and forget she exists. He doesn't wanna.
Also rerun of Pancho hugging Rebeca goodbye when Chela walks in. I don't think it's a particularly sexy-looking hug, but clearly Chela feels differently. I reach for my earplugs in anticipation of another fine fit.
Mónica starts saying nastier things to Pepe for Enzo's benefit, like for instance that she was just playing with him; she wanted to know what it would be like to go out with a naco. Enzo slips away unseen by Pepe just as Pepe decides to take the hint and leave. (We hear all the time about actors and comic timing, but there's something to be said for soap opera timing.) Moni asks herself what she's done.
Chela is speechless after seeing the hug. She leaves Pancho's office without a word. Although I revel in the silence, even Rebeca is concerned about Chela's unexpected reaction. She urges Pancho to go talk to Chela, but he doesn't get to her fast enough.
It turns out that Mónica is doing the loud crying in this round. She tells Kari how much it hurt her to say those things to Pepe. Kari tells her to just think how it hurt Pepe! Mo says she had to do it because she and Pepe have no future. Kari yells at her, "and above all it's because your father was watching you and you wanted to show him how afraid you are of him! Don't you realize it's YOUR life and YOUR happiness?" She'd love to tell him how much she loves him and can't live with him, but it's better this way because they'd never be happy together. Facetiously, Karina says sure, you'd be the most dejected couple in the world! But Mónica can't stop crying.
Pancho phones home for Chela, but she's not home yet. Turns out she's at church, telling Jesus how she finally came to accept that it wasn't a sin for her to want to be with Pancho, and that Laurita would have wanted her to be with him, and now she can even admit that she's in love with him, but she's lost him.
Chela goes home and puts on her most extra-frumpy sweater and tells Chucha that she has to leave. She gives Chucha a bunch of instructions for taking care of the kids, as well as a note for Pancho. Sad adios, lugging her baggage awkwardly just as Pancho did in her nightmare.
Tomás goes to Avon to talk to Pancho about Elena and Freddy. Tom wants to go to Brazil and bust Fred's tangerine (head) into wedges (romperle su mandarina en gajos). Pancho says that's kind of cannon-ish (like a loose cannon, I guess) and besides, they're oranges. (I'm not sure I got this quite right.)
Next in the parade through Pancho's office is Ana. She's intrigued when he tells her that Elena went to Brazil... until he reveals that she went with Irachetita. Suddenly, Ana gets all flustered and leaves. Pancho is as puzzled by this as he is by every other female's behavior.
Tomás and Pepe over beers. Tom reiterates his plan to split Fred's tangerine. He also opines that Monica really mustn't love Pepe after all those things she said. Pepe says her words said one thing, but her eyes said another.
At band rehearsal, Ana recalls her conversation with Pancho about Fred and Elena and starts to cry. Her mystified bandmates offer their help, but she excuses herself.
Freddy is watching TV at the hotel when Elena comes back from somewhere and thanks him effusively for taking her to Brazil. At first he seems more interested in the TV than listening to her, but when she physically pulls him out of the chair he takes more notice.
Elena nervously notes that there's only one bedroom in the suite. Fred is feeling friskier now. She asks Fred if he loves her. "Of course I do," he replies in a careless tone. "You're truly incredible - you deserve all this and more," he says, undressing hurriedly. "But do you love me?" "I told you yes," he says, and the camera focuses ironically on some flowers. (She still has all her clothes on at this point, so we'll never know if her fingerless gloves come off for this special occasion.)
Pancho comes home and, finding no one in the foyer to greet him, echoes his own greeting. He starts chatting with Laurita at her little shrine, but notices something is amiss (I'm not sure what - the candle's still burning). Then Chucha gives him Chela's letter. He wants to know where Chela is. She says it's best if he reads the letter.
So where did Chela go that she'll be so hard to find? Did she go to Brazil to bust Fred's head into wedges and start a new life of hope? Nah, she's gone back to their old house in the 'hood to sob bitterly and feel sorry for herself. Ha! They'll NEVER think to look for her there! They say you can't go home again, but if anyone can pull it off, it's Chela.
Pepe comes home and sees Pancho still looking thunderstruck. He tells Pepe to gather the kids. Pepe does so by yelling. I think Pancho could have done that himself.
Candy is on a date with Vince. What what what? Nah, it's not a date, it's just two people who are hot for one another having champagne together in a nice restaurant. She's playing it cool. He tells her she makes him crazy and he's NOT having a thing with Sandra. Candy says she's not worried about her; she's way more woman than Sandra! Vince says he does nothing more in his life except think about her day and night, night and day. The first thing he sees when each morning and the last image in his mind as he nestles into the arms of Morpheus. HE's not the same since he met her. He begins gobbling her hand with kisses. Now there's a guy who knows how to kiss.
Pancho tells the kids and Fernanda that Chela's gone. They want to know why. They ask to see the letter. Pancho nervously tries to get Temo to go do his homework. Ana thinks he's old enough to hear the truth and volunteers to advance her theory as to why Chela left, but is interrupted by Candy's cheerful hello. Lupita brings her up to speed, and Candy isn't surprised. Ana finally explains: Chela left because she's in love with Dad! Everyone stares at him accusingly.
Pina tries to call Fred. His phone rings and rings. "I bet he's busy with that Elena!" Adoración laughs. Pina is scandalized that her precious son might be sharing a room with that [social] climber (trepadora), that plumber's sister. Ado begins to ask what's wrong with the plumber's sister, since you like the plumber so much...
Vince calls Abeja's psychiatrist for an appointment - for himself. (The doctor says Vince is too old to be peeing on the furniture too.) The doctor is reluctant, but Vince argues that he's a mammal just like the other pets. Vince needs to see him right away!
Even after reading the letter, Pancho is STILL in denial about Chela's love for him and trying to make excuses even though he very well knows what she wrote in that letter - he says they can't be sure. Lupita and Pepe don't get why Chela would leave if she were in love with Pancho. Ana says it's because of being una tercera en descordia (the odd one out, the third wheel, three's a crowd). Candy mentions Rebeca. Pancho is very unhappy with where this conversation is going. Candy tells him not to lie to the kids and confirms Ana's theory: Pancho and Rebeca are in love, and if Chela left so suddenly, it's because she found out. Pancho uncomfortably flashes back to telling Kojak and BigBoy that he'd fallen in love. Temo concludes that this is Rebeca's fault.
Pina and Ado talk about Abeja's pregnancy. It emerges that Pina didn't lose her hair or pee in the living room when she was pregnant. Ado says Abeja's been chewing the walls, too. It's all that nasty dog's fault. Ado thinks Abeja seems quite content. Pina wants to do a DNA test (I don't know what she thinks that will accomplish).
Vince tells the veterinary psychiatrist all about his problems with Pancho Lopez, the bane of his existence. And his sister makes him crazy, too.
Fer also confirms that Chela's in love with Pancho whereas he sees her as a sister. Even Temo seems to understand it now. He observes that Pancho loves Rebe, but why doesn't he love Auntie Chela? Pancho admits that he kissed Rebe last night, but she's not interested in him and now she's on a trip so there's nothing to worry about.
A woman with a lot of jingly jewelry wanders into the living room old house at Casa Popular and appears to be in a trance. I guess Chela knows her, she calls her Jessenia. Jess complains that the house is full of bad vibes. She says Chela's sister is trying to tell them something, but she can't make out what it is. She's got a nice tall glass of maté, which is interesting because she was empty-handed when she entered the room. How long's she been in the house? Anyway, she thinks a stronger drink would help her communicate with Laurita better. Chela offers to look for some tequila or mezcal. I would recommend a nice long nap for Jess instead.
Candy makes dinner while Chucha and Goya look on in horror. Didn't they used to cook for Fernanda? Maybe they should have asserted themselves a little more forcefully. It's just spaghetti, but somehow Candy screws it up. It doesn't matter much because nobody feels like eating.
Jess fiddles with some fortune-telling cards while Chela tells her story. Jess says you don't need cards to see that Chela's a fool. There's nothing wrong with her, she's not ugly or old or fat, so she should fight for her man instead of running away. Pull in her stomach, walk like a model, raise the hems on her skirts, etc. Oh, and cook for him, because that's her best weapon. This doesn't make Chela feel any better and she says she's already lost. Jess repeats don't let Rebeca have him without a fight.
Dinner is too salty. Pepe tries to drown everything in salsa. Only Pancho tries to spare Candy's feelings, but Candy isn't fooled. Temo wants to go to bed and runs out yelling. Fer offers to read him a bedtime story, but no, only Auntie Chela can do that. Is she gone forever like Mommy? When is she coming back? Are you going to marry Rebeca? Why don't you marry Auntie Chela? Pancho says he's pretty sure he knows where she is and will go there tomorrow. He leaves Temo alone with Fer. He still has questions. She says sometimes grownups need a pause to think things over. He asks why she likes him so much, they're not even related. She tells him that she can be his grandma because when she met Pancho, he adopted her as his mother. So he can be her grandson and count on her no matter what.
Candy and Pancho talk. Well, Candy talks. She says it's all his fault. He knew deep down inside how Chela felt about him. It's not his fault he's in love with Rebeca, but he should have taken the bull by the horns.
Pancho wants everything to be like before. Candy says it can't. He and Chela will never be able to look at one another the same way after this. He has to tell her how he feels, without any hemming and hawing: that he loves her, but not as a woman.
"Now that you know the truth," Candy asks, "what are you going to do? Are you going to change your mind?"
Next time:
Pina puts the horns on herself. Cathy sees Vince hug Candy at a lemonade stand. Pancho confronts Chela and tells her he loves Rebeca.
Fer pensively kisses a Virgen de Guadalupe medallion that was once worn by a tiny little baby of her acquaintance. (We didn't see this last night, did we? It's so confusing when they show new stuff before old stuff.)
Lupita pensively kisses the medallion of her namesake (I had no idea that word was so controversial, see here) and thanks Virgencita for letting her live. (Has she had any brushes with death that we know of?)
Rerun of Pepe talking about wearing Mónica down like the sea crashing against the rocks. He appears to be making some headway with his elemental logic when she sees Enzo approach and says she doesn't want that; she just wants Pepe to go away and forget she exists. He doesn't wanna.
Also rerun of Pancho hugging Rebeca goodbye when Chela walks in. I don't think it's a particularly sexy-looking hug, but clearly Chela feels differently. I reach for my earplugs in anticipation of another fine fit.
Mónica starts saying nastier things to Pepe for Enzo's benefit, like for instance that she was just playing with him; she wanted to know what it would be like to go out with a naco. Enzo slips away unseen by Pepe just as Pepe decides to take the hint and leave. (We hear all the time about actors and comic timing, but there's something to be said for soap opera timing.) Moni asks herself what she's done.
Chela is speechless after seeing the hug. She leaves Pancho's office without a word. Although I revel in the silence, even Rebeca is concerned about Chela's unexpected reaction. She urges Pancho to go talk to Chela, but he doesn't get to her fast enough.
It turns out that Mónica is doing the loud crying in this round. She tells Kari how much it hurt her to say those things to Pepe. Kari tells her to just think how it hurt Pepe! Mo says she had to do it because she and Pepe have no future. Kari yells at her, "and above all it's because your father was watching you and you wanted to show him how afraid you are of him! Don't you realize it's YOUR life and YOUR happiness?" She'd love to tell him how much she loves him and can't live with him, but it's better this way because they'd never be happy together. Facetiously, Karina says sure, you'd be the most dejected couple in the world! But Mónica can't stop crying.
Pancho phones home for Chela, but she's not home yet. Turns out she's at church, telling Jesus how she finally came to accept that it wasn't a sin for her to want to be with Pancho, and that Laurita would have wanted her to be with him, and now she can even admit that she's in love with him, but she's lost him.
Chela goes home and puts on her most extra-frumpy sweater and tells Chucha that she has to leave. She gives Chucha a bunch of instructions for taking care of the kids, as well as a note for Pancho. Sad adios, lugging her baggage awkwardly just as Pancho did in her nightmare.
Tomás goes to Avon to talk to Pancho about Elena and Freddy. Tom wants to go to Brazil and bust Fred's tangerine (head) into wedges (romperle su mandarina en gajos). Pancho says that's kind of cannon-ish (like a loose cannon, I guess) and besides, they're oranges. (I'm not sure I got this quite right.)
Next in the parade through Pancho's office is Ana. She's intrigued when he tells her that Elena went to Brazil... until he reveals that she went with Irachetita. Suddenly, Ana gets all flustered and leaves. Pancho is as puzzled by this as he is by every other female's behavior.
Tomás and Pepe over beers. Tom reiterates his plan to split Fred's tangerine. He also opines that Monica really mustn't love Pepe after all those things she said. Pepe says her words said one thing, but her eyes said another.
At band rehearsal, Ana recalls her conversation with Pancho about Fred and Elena and starts to cry. Her mystified bandmates offer their help, but she excuses herself.
Freddy is watching TV at the hotel when Elena comes back from somewhere and thanks him effusively for taking her to Brazil. At first he seems more interested in the TV than listening to her, but when she physically pulls him out of the chair he takes more notice.
Elena nervously notes that there's only one bedroom in the suite. Fred is feeling friskier now. She asks Fred if he loves her. "Of course I do," he replies in a careless tone. "You're truly incredible - you deserve all this and more," he says, undressing hurriedly. "But do you love me?" "I told you yes," he says, and the camera focuses ironically on some flowers. (She still has all her clothes on at this point, so we'll never know if her fingerless gloves come off for this special occasion.)
Pancho comes home and, finding no one in the foyer to greet him, echoes his own greeting. He starts chatting with Laurita at her little shrine, but notices something is amiss (I'm not sure what - the candle's still burning). Then Chucha gives him Chela's letter. He wants to know where Chela is. She says it's best if he reads the letter.
Dear Pancho,(Even though Pancho is reading silently, Chucha seems to be weeping at the sound of Chela's words.)
Forgive me, but I can't go on with my anxiety, with this profound pain, with this feeling of desolation. My heart's been breaking in two ever since we left the neighborhood to live in this house and you were named president. But today I'm done making cachitos [which generally refers to little bits of something, but in Mexico specifically can mean a 1/20th share in a lottery ticket which represents tiny pieces of hope, or maybe it means something else] and I realize that we are losing you, that I've lost you forever. Up till now, what's kept me at your side was the great love that I feel for your children, my beautiful nieces and nephews, and the immense love that I feel for you. But I can't continue at your side knowing that I will never be able to have you, and that's why I'm leaving. Please don't look for me.
Yours, Chela.
So where did Chela go that she'll be so hard to find? Did she go to Brazil to bust Fred's head into wedges and start a new life of hope? Nah, she's gone back to their old house in the 'hood to sob bitterly and feel sorry for herself. Ha! They'll NEVER think to look for her there! They say you can't go home again, but if anyone can pull it off, it's Chela.
Pepe comes home and sees Pancho still looking thunderstruck. He tells Pepe to gather the kids. Pepe does so by yelling. I think Pancho could have done that himself.
Candy is on a date with Vince. What what what? Nah, it's not a date, it's just two people who are hot for one another having champagne together in a nice restaurant. She's playing it cool. He tells her she makes him crazy and he's NOT having a thing with Sandra. Candy says she's not worried about her; she's way more woman than Sandra! Vince says he does nothing more in his life except think about her day and night, night and day. The first thing he sees when each morning and the last image in his mind as he nestles into the arms of Morpheus. HE's not the same since he met her. He begins gobbling her hand with kisses. Now there's a guy who knows how to kiss.
Pancho tells the kids and Fernanda that Chela's gone. They want to know why. They ask to see the letter. Pancho nervously tries to get Temo to go do his homework. Ana thinks he's old enough to hear the truth and volunteers to advance her theory as to why Chela left, but is interrupted by Candy's cheerful hello. Lupita brings her up to speed, and Candy isn't surprised. Ana finally explains: Chela left because she's in love with Dad! Everyone stares at him accusingly.
Pina tries to call Fred. His phone rings and rings. "I bet he's busy with that Elena!" Adoración laughs. Pina is scandalized that her precious son might be sharing a room with that [social] climber (trepadora), that plumber's sister. Ado begins to ask what's wrong with the plumber's sister, since you like the plumber so much...
Vince calls Abeja's psychiatrist for an appointment - for himself. (The doctor says Vince is too old to be peeing on the furniture too.) The doctor is reluctant, but Vince argues that he's a mammal just like the other pets. Vince needs to see him right away!
Even after reading the letter, Pancho is STILL in denial about Chela's love for him and trying to make excuses even though he very well knows what she wrote in that letter - he says they can't be sure. Lupita and Pepe don't get why Chela would leave if she were in love with Pancho. Ana says it's because of being una tercera en descordia (the odd one out, the third wheel, three's a crowd). Candy mentions Rebeca. Pancho is very unhappy with where this conversation is going. Candy tells him not to lie to the kids and confirms Ana's theory: Pancho and Rebeca are in love, and if Chela left so suddenly, it's because she found out. Pancho uncomfortably flashes back to telling Kojak and BigBoy that he'd fallen in love. Temo concludes that this is Rebeca's fault.
Pina and Ado talk about Abeja's pregnancy. It emerges that Pina didn't lose her hair or pee in the living room when she was pregnant. Ado says Abeja's been chewing the walls, too. It's all that nasty dog's fault. Ado thinks Abeja seems quite content. Pina wants to do a DNA test (I don't know what she thinks that will accomplish).
Vince tells the veterinary psychiatrist all about his problems with Pancho Lopez, the bane of his existence. And his sister makes him crazy, too.
Fer also confirms that Chela's in love with Pancho whereas he sees her as a sister. Even Temo seems to understand it now. He observes that Pancho loves Rebe, but why doesn't he love Auntie Chela? Pancho admits that he kissed Rebe last night, but she's not interested in him and now she's on a trip so there's nothing to worry about.
A woman with a lot of jingly jewelry wanders into the living room old house at Casa Popular and appears to be in a trance. I guess Chela knows her, she calls her Jessenia. Jess complains that the house is full of bad vibes. She says Chela's sister is trying to tell them something, but she can't make out what it is. She's got a nice tall glass of maté, which is interesting because she was empty-handed when she entered the room. How long's she been in the house? Anyway, she thinks a stronger drink would help her communicate with Laurita better. Chela offers to look for some tequila or mezcal. I would recommend a nice long nap for Jess instead.
Candy makes dinner while Chucha and Goya look on in horror. Didn't they used to cook for Fernanda? Maybe they should have asserted themselves a little more forcefully. It's just spaghetti, but somehow Candy screws it up. It doesn't matter much because nobody feels like eating.
Jess fiddles with some fortune-telling cards while Chela tells her story. Jess says you don't need cards to see that Chela's a fool. There's nothing wrong with her, she's not ugly or old or fat, so she should fight for her man instead of running away. Pull in her stomach, walk like a model, raise the hems on her skirts, etc. Oh, and cook for him, because that's her best weapon. This doesn't make Chela feel any better and she says she's already lost. Jess repeats don't let Rebeca have him without a fight.
Dinner is too salty. Pepe tries to drown everything in salsa. Only Pancho tries to spare Candy's feelings, but Candy isn't fooled. Temo wants to go to bed and runs out yelling. Fer offers to read him a bedtime story, but no, only Auntie Chela can do that. Is she gone forever like Mommy? When is she coming back? Are you going to marry Rebeca? Why don't you marry Auntie Chela? Pancho says he's pretty sure he knows where she is and will go there tomorrow. He leaves Temo alone with Fer. He still has questions. She says sometimes grownups need a pause to think things over. He asks why she likes him so much, they're not even related. She tells him that she can be his grandma because when she met Pancho, he adopted her as his mother. So he can be her grandson and count on her no matter what.
Candy and Pancho talk. Well, Candy talks. She says it's all his fault. He knew deep down inside how Chela felt about him. It's not his fault he's in love with Rebeca, but he should have taken the bull by the horns.
Pancho wants everything to be like before. Candy says it can't. He and Chela will never be able to look at one another the same way after this. He has to tell her how he feels, without any hemming and hawing: that he loves her, but not as a woman.
"Now that you know the truth," Candy asks, "what are you going to do? Are you going to change your mind?"
Next time:
Pina puts the horns on herself. Cathy sees Vince hug Candy at a lemonade stand. Pancho confronts Chela and tells her he loves Rebeca.
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In case anyone's interested: it was about 21 minutes before the first commercial break tonight. Last night, if I'm not mistaken, it was around 26 minutes. I complain about long commercial breaks, but 26 minutes with no commercials is a bit brutal too if you JUST got home and you have to go to the bathroom!
Incidentally, I was wrong last week when I said General Hospital had a "new information" runtime (i.e. not commercials, credits, or avances) of about 36.5 minutes. After correcting some errors caused by rounding, I ended up with 35 minutes. I think we still get more out of telenovelas even if we exclude the repeated material from the previous night's show.
Incidentally, I was wrong last week when I said General Hospital had a "new information" runtime (i.e. not commercials, credits, or avances) of about 36.5 minutes. After correcting some errors caused by rounding, I ended up with 35 minutes. I think we still get more out of telenovelas even if we exclude the repeated material from the previous night's show.
Thank you Julie for the fast recap. Yuck Freddy and Elena. The poor girl is going to suffer over this. He'll dump her as soon as they get back. And Chela the advances show Pancho telling her he is love with Rebe. I hope Chela finally gets it, I think she does.The kids will suffer the most from being gone, cause she is the anchor of the family. But Chela feels betrayed by Pancho and needs to deal with him thinking of her as his sister.
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: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 12:13:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 12:13:00 AM EST
Thanks so much Julie! I appreciate all the detail you gave us, and I love the title.
Elena is one stupid girl. I thought she was smarter than that and would find clever ways to put Freddy off, but she actually fell for his lines! Ugh! Nothing but heartache there. And Ana too! I don't think she would ever be stupid enough to do what Elena did, but even shedding tears over Freddy the Fink is a waste.
I was mad at all of Pancho's family. Why are they acting like Chela leaving is his fault? This is the way I see it:
-Pancho loves Rebe. Rebe loves Pancho. Mutual feelings, means that it's THEIR business.
-Chela loves Pancho. Pancho doesn't love Chela. Meaning unrequited love. Meaning that it's HER problem, not Pancho's.
Although I am annoyed by how Pancho refuses to accept that Chela loves him, I don't see what he could have done about it. Even if he acknowledges it and has a discussion with Chela about it (or had that discussion years ago), the result will still be the same. It will be hard for Chela to live in the same house as the man she's in love with, but if she doesn't live with him, the kids will feel like they've lost their second mother. Again, NOT Pancho's fault.
I also didn't understand why the maids didn't take back their cooking duties and instead let Candy cook.
Elena is one stupid girl. I thought she was smarter than that and would find clever ways to put Freddy off, but she actually fell for his lines! Ugh! Nothing but heartache there. And Ana too! I don't think she would ever be stupid enough to do what Elena did, but even shedding tears over Freddy the Fink is a waste.
I was mad at all of Pancho's family. Why are they acting like Chela leaving is his fault? This is the way I see it:
-Pancho loves Rebe. Rebe loves Pancho. Mutual feelings, means that it's THEIR business.
-Chela loves Pancho. Pancho doesn't love Chela. Meaning unrequited love. Meaning that it's HER problem, not Pancho's.
Although I am annoyed by how Pancho refuses to accept that Chela loves him, I don't see what he could have done about it. Even if he acknowledges it and has a discussion with Chela about it (or had that discussion years ago), the result will still be the same. It will be hard for Chela to live in the same house as the man she's in love with, but if she doesn't live with him, the kids will feel like they've lost their second mother. Again, NOT Pancho's fault.
I also didn't understand why the maids didn't take back their cooking duties and instead let Candy cook.
Julie, great title and alternate. Thanks for the fun you put into this recap cause this one was tough to watch. I felt so sorry for Pancho. He's never done anything to lead on Chela (why did she think he set her up on a date with Chucho?), and now the whole family's blaming him.
I'm all for Chela getting a makeover but it's going to make me cringe to watch her try to attract Pancho.
ITA Elena is dumber than dumb. My guess is Freddy won't even return her phone call when they get back to Mexico. Hmmm, would Tomas go after Pina just to get even?
I'm all for Chela getting a makeover but it's going to make me cringe to watch her try to attract Pancho.
ITA Elena is dumber than dumb. My guess is Freddy won't even return her phone call when they get back to Mexico. Hmmm, would Tomas go after Pina just to get even?
Julie, you are so good a translations and one that puzzles me is an ad during commericals for a sports program. In the promotion they say "Analisis en frio". What does that mean?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 11:29:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 11:29:00 AM EST
Vivi, I mostly agree with you about Chela, except that I disagree that the "I like you, but I don't like you-like you" speech would ever have been pointless. Likewise, the weird codependent, mutual-denial thing that's been going on between them for years would have come to an end if Chela had ever confronted Pancho directly about her feelings. That's precisely why Chela ran away from home instead of facing Pancho.
If Chela confronts him and admits how she feels, then he HAS to face the truth that she loves him. And then he is obligated to tell her that he's just never going to feel that way about her. They've both known this on some level, and thus they've taken great precautions to AVOID the subject.
It's fine and dandy for Pancho to hear about Chela's love from Chacho, or for Chela to hear about Pancho's disinterest from Fernanda. Even when someone confronts both of them, as Rebeca did early on, they can maintain the charade by pretending that having a witness forced the other to say things he or she didn't really feel. It's all still in the realm of speculation until they hear it from the horse's mouth in a serious, one-on-one conversation.
I'm not saying that these conversations would have had a happy outcome... just that they both could have moved on a lot sooner while the stakes were maybe a lot lower. But then we wouldn't have this fine mess on our hands!
If Chela confronts him and admits how she feels, then he HAS to face the truth that she loves him. And then he is obligated to tell her that he's just never going to feel that way about her. They've both known this on some level, and thus they've taken great precautions to AVOID the subject.
It's fine and dandy for Pancho to hear about Chela's love from Chacho, or for Chela to hear about Pancho's disinterest from Fernanda. Even when someone confronts both of them, as Rebeca did early on, they can maintain the charade by pretending that having a witness forced the other to say things he or she didn't really feel. It's all still in the realm of speculation until they hear it from the horse's mouth in a serious, one-on-one conversation.
I'm not saying that these conversations would have had a happy outcome... just that they both could have moved on a lot sooner while the stakes were maybe a lot lower. But then we wouldn't have this fine mess on our hands!
As for Elena, I didn't expect her to be smart enough to fend Freddy off, but I DID expect her to be smart enough not to expect him to have any feelings for her.
At the start of their "relationship," she was playing it cool, like she was just looking for something casual. But now she's falling for the oldest trick in the book. I sure hope he wore a condom. (Make that two condoms - I don't want to take any chances!)
At the start of their "relationship," she was playing it cool, like she was just looking for something casual. But now she's falling for the oldest trick in the book. I sure hope he wore a condom. (Make that two condoms - I don't want to take any chances!)
tks so much Julie
We have at least 150 episodes left, so who knows what will happen, I hope it doesn't go too serious. I'm sure Chela will end up with Pancho & Monica with Pepe, & Abeja with Popeye, outside of that I couldn't even venture a guess. I hope Lupita ends up with Alex. Maybe she is thinking of her mom. Mom's name was Laura, I would think Lupita is the nickname for Lupe.
How did Ana get so familiar with Freddy, I don't even remember them having a conversation, maybe the school cafe?
Variopinta
We have at least 150 episodes left, so who knows what will happen, I hope it doesn't go too serious. I'm sure Chela will end up with Pancho & Monica with Pepe, & Abeja with Popeye, outside of that I couldn't even venture a guess. I hope Lupita ends up with Alex. Maybe she is thinking of her mom. Mom's name was Laura, I would think Lupita is the nickname for Lupe.
How did Ana get so familiar with Freddy, I don't even remember them having a conversation, maybe the school cafe?
Variopinta
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 1:49:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 1:49:00 PM EST
Anon, I'm not sure about "analisis en frio." "Analisis" is easy enough, but "en frio" is trickier.
When "en frio" does not refer to temperature, it can mean something like sudden, quick, or instantaneous; in other contexts, it can mean calm or cool-headed.
So "analisis en frio" might be "live commentary" (like what they have during a game), or it could be "unbiased commentary/analysis," like the postmortem after an NFL game. (Not that those are always unbiased or even particularly analytical, but I guess it's the thought that counts!)
Or, it could mean yet something else that I'm not familiar with. Sorry I can't be more precise, but I just don't know. Maybe someone who watches more sports knows what it is. It's probably more apparent if you can see the sports show and see what kind of "analisis" they're doing.
When "en frio" does not refer to temperature, it can mean something like sudden, quick, or instantaneous; in other contexts, it can mean calm or cool-headed.
So "analisis en frio" might be "live commentary" (like what they have during a game), or it could be "unbiased commentary/analysis," like the postmortem after an NFL game. (Not that those are always unbiased or even particularly analytical, but I guess it's the thought that counts!)
Or, it could mean yet something else that I'm not familiar with. Sorry I can't be more precise, but I just don't know. Maybe someone who watches more sports knows what it is. It's probably more apparent if you can see the sports show and see what kind of "analisis" they're doing.
Variopinta, do you really think Pancho and Chela will end up together, or was that just a typo? I don't see any hope for those two as a couple at all! (Though I guess with 150+ episodes to go, a lot could change!)
Lupita is "short" for Lupe, which is short for Guadalupe.
I don't remember if Ana's ever had a conversation with Freddy. If she did, it would have been really brief and without substance. It's probably much easier to like him if you don't talk to him. Although, if Fred gets angry enough about Pepe stealing Monica, maybe he'll go for Ana out of revenge, if Ana's dumb enough to still like him after he's finished with Elena.
Lupita is "short" for Lupe, which is short for Guadalupe.
I don't remember if Ana's ever had a conversation with Freddy. If she did, it would have been really brief and without substance. It's probably much easier to like him if you don't talk to him. Although, if Fred gets angry enough about Pepe stealing Monica, maybe he'll go for Ana out of revenge, if Ana's dumb enough to still like him after he's finished with Elena.
Julia, Thanks for the great recap. I enjoyed your keen eyed observations. I don't watch this fun farce very often so can use the side observations to catch up on what develops slowly through the episodes.
I dont like the notion that Chela wins Pancho by acting like a dish rag all these years. The whole thing is so about other sister jealousy for me. Not that Chela is evil like other isster Roberta over in CME but she is using her devotion to the family in an unattractive way that seems a bit too incestuous for me.
Poor naive Elena. She is tough on the outside but a real child on the inside which is bound to cause heart break. I just hope it doesn't involve pregnancy and totally ruin her character. She is a spunky young woman who could develop into a strong and wise one with any luck.
I dont like the notion that Chela wins Pancho by acting like a dish rag all these years. The whole thing is so about other sister jealousy for me. Not that Chela is evil like other isster Roberta over in CME but she is using her devotion to the family in an unattractive way that seems a bit too incestuous for me.
Poor naive Elena. She is tough on the outside but a real child on the inside which is bound to cause heart break. I just hope it doesn't involve pregnancy and totally ruin her character. She is a spunky young woman who could develop into a strong and wise one with any luck.
Julie, thanks for the useful explanation of analisis en frio - seems like 'live commentary' or 'unbiased commentary'(ha) would work. I am used to 'en vivo' but this threw me.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 3:44:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 3:44:00 PM EST
I really do think Chela & Pancho end up together, I think that's in the novela rules. You know Chela is going to turn in to a hottie & make Pancho jealous with some guy & I don't mean Chacho.
BTW Luz Elena Gonaález has a very guapo husband.
She went from screaming in Dinero to crying in this one, but I do like her.
Varipinta
BTW Luz Elena Gonaález has a very guapo husband.
She went from screaming in Dinero to crying in this one, but I do like her.
Varipinta
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 4:08:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 4:08:00 PM EST
Julie- I agree that Pancho and Chela should have had The Talk long ago. I still don't think it would have changed Chela's feelings for him, and I don't think she would have been ready to up and leave the kids back then, especially since Temo would have been really little then. But it might have changed how Pancho acted around her. He probably wouldn't have allowed intimacies like those massages she gives him.
I don't think they will end up together in the end. She needs to grow up and grow out of her puppy dog love for him. (We saw from the first episode that her crush on him started even when he started dating her sister.) Rebe has been the only woman to awaken feelings in Pancho since Laura died and that says a lot.
I don't think they will end up together in the end. She needs to grow up and grow out of her puppy dog love for him. (We saw from the first episode that her crush on him started even when he started dating her sister.) Rebe has been the only woman to awaken feelings in Pancho since Laura died and that says a lot.
Thanks for your recap Julie. Your info about new info on US soaps vs. TNs was interesting.
The conversation about the love triangle of Pancho-Rebecca-Chela. Though I read more than watch, I do feel Chela's unrequited love for Pancho and the family is problematic; ITA w/Cheryl in that its very incestuous. And Pancho was not going to be able to deal with her feelings.
The conversation about the love triangle of Pancho-Rebecca-Chela. Though I read more than watch, I do feel Chela's unrequited love for Pancho and the family is problematic; ITA w/Cheryl in that its very incestuous. And Pancho was not going to be able to deal with her feelings.
The rest of the recap is done.
It's remarkable how Pancho couldn't accept the truth about Chela even after she put it in writing... at least not right away. Funny how the thing that seemed to make him come around was remembering that she overheard him talking about the kiss. I wouldn't have guessed that would be the thing to make the difference.
It's remarkable how Pancho couldn't accept the truth about Chela even after she put it in writing... at least not right away. Funny how the thing that seemed to make him come around was remembering that she overheard him talking about the kiss. I wouldn't have guessed that would be the thing to make the difference.
"we'll never know if her fingerless gloves come off for this special occasion" hahaha! Oy, what an unspecial night that was. Freddy goes from bored to "oh, okay" and strips right down to get it over with. Someday soon Elena is going to look back and realize what a fool she was. I hope getting to see Rio is enough of a thrill for her.
Ana is a fool, too, but maybe she'll channel her sorrows into writing some good songs.
I like Monica but she is really frustrating. What's the worst that could happen if she openly dated Pepe? If her father would really rather she be miserable, and would disown her or whatever because she wants to date a decent guy who treats her well just because his origins are humble, then Monica and Enzo don't have as great a relationship as she thinks. How is making yourself miserable and lying to your father a way to maintain a close, loving relationship?
Why was Pepe's face so red during all the oh no Chela's gone scenes? Sunburn, or the lingering sting of Monica's rejection?
Ana is a fool, too, but maybe she'll channel her sorrows into writing some good songs.
I like Monica but she is really frustrating. What's the worst that could happen if she openly dated Pepe? If her father would really rather she be miserable, and would disown her or whatever because she wants to date a decent guy who treats her well just because his origins are humble, then Monica and Enzo don't have as great a relationship as she thinks. How is making yourself miserable and lying to your father a way to maintain a close, loving relationship?
Why was Pepe's face so red during all the oh no Chela's gone scenes? Sunburn, or the lingering sting of Monica's rejection?
tuétano - marrow
hasta el tuétano - totally, through and through
playera - t-shirt
panquitos de salvado - little bran cakes? Bran muffins?
agarrar la onda - to "get it"
estar en los brazos de Morfeo - to dream
sátrapa - satrap (a political leader who is heavily influenced by a larger world superpower)
sacar de quicio - to unhinge, make crazy
paradoja - paradox
mangote - a total hottie, really stunning person
hocicón - blabbermouth
andar como burro sin mecate - to be out of control
hasta el tuétano - totally, through and through
playera - t-shirt
panquitos de salvado - little bran cakes? Bran muffins?
agarrar la onda - to "get it"
estar en los brazos de Morfeo - to dream
sátrapa - satrap (a political leader who is heavily influenced by a larger world superpower)
sacar de quicio - to unhinge, make crazy
paradoja - paradox
mangote - a total hottie, really stunning person
hocicón - blabbermouth
andar como burro sin mecate - to be out of control
Julia, that is awesome! Thank you!!
I was confused by "sátrapa". The word makes sense in reference to Pancho, but wasn't she talking about Popeye? Popeye's no sátrapa! And what's the DNA test for? I feel like I missed something in there.
I was confused by "sátrapa". The word makes sense in reference to Pancho, but wasn't she talking about Popeye? Popeye's no sátrapa! And what's the DNA test for? I feel like I missed something in there.
I wasn't sure, either. Maybe she thinks Popeye is working as a puppet for the evil López empire, and Abeja's pregnancy is part of the evil conspiracy? Her head is a strange, strange place.
Didn't Fernanda have a baby she gave up for adoption? Maybe the baby with the Virgin of Guadalupe medal is the baby she gave up for adoption? I am assuming Pancho might be that baby, that Pancho kept the medal all these years and gave it to Lupita after her mother died.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 12, 2011 at 8:34:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 12, 2011 at 8:34:00 AM EST
Madelaine, I was assuming that (1) Fer putting the medal on her little baby boy; (2) Lupita kissing her identical medal was the tipoff that Pancho is the long-lost boy and that he gave his medal to Lupita.
I think the doctor said Vince was not old enough yet to be peeing on the carpet (ie the incontinence of some of the elderly).
I don't think Pancho can end up with Chela because he has said so definitively that he sees her as a sister.
I think the doctor said Vince was not old enough yet to be peeing on the carpet (ie the incontinence of some of the elderly).
I don't think Pancho can end up with Chela because he has said so definitively that he sees her as a sister.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 12, 2011 at 9:03:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 12, 2011 at 9:03:00 AM EST
Julie, thanks for all the detail. I noted Pepe's red face too, which made since when Monica was saying those cruel things to him. The makeup person must've been rushed because when he was at the family dinner table, I could see the makeup line under his chin, no blending. ;>
When Pancho confessed to Laurita his feelings for Rebe, he got a glowing light go-ahead. When Chela confesses her love of Pancho to Laurita, she gets no light - absolutamente nada. Pancho and Chela were both grieving from Laurita's death so I can see how they both fell into a rut of not facing up to Chela's feelings head on. Chela's been fantasizing about an idealized Pancho since he first dated Laurita. She needs to step out of her sister's shadow.
When Pancho confessed to Laurita his feelings for Rebe, he got a glowing light go-ahead. When Chela confesses her love of Pancho to Laurita, she gets no light - absolutamente nada. Pancho and Chela were both grieving from Laurita's death so I can see how they both fell into a rut of not facing up to Chela's feelings head on. Chela's been fantasizing about an idealized Pancho since he first dated Laurita. She needs to step out of her sister's shadow.
Julia, thanks for the consolidated vocab list. If I'm not mistaken, everyone except for Abeja and Popeye are in a berenjenal right now.
Niecie, thanks for pointing out that Pancho always got a high flame from Laurita on the subject of Rebe, while Chela never did on the subject of Pancho. I hadn't noticed the latter. It is indeed a big hint.
LOL, Melinama, I guess I got it backwards about Vince's age to pee on the carpet. (IMO, there is NO good age for that.) This is why it takes me so long to do a recap... any time I write something down without double-checking first, I get it wrong. It's as if my ears only catch every other word.
I started watching tonight's episode and realized I hadn't watched Friday's! Doh. So Julie, a belated thank you for your excellent recap and embedded vocabulary.
Julia, your list is fantastic! Thank you so much for sharing.
OK, time to watch tonight's episode...
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Julia, your list is fantastic! Thank you so much for sharing.
OK, time to watch tonight's episode...
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