Saturday, December 03, 2011
La Fuerza del Destino #85 Fri 12/02/11 Honey Buns Gets Busted In The Buff Again And Lucia Gets Licenciada'd
As Viewerville settles in for its weekending emotional fender-bender south of the border, Camilo has found the mechanic that helped Antolin replace his fan belt on the car. He remembers him because you don’t see a car like Anto’s cherry red ’66 Mustang convertible everyday of the week. He remembered also that Judith drove up and offered to take him back into Alamos and that Anto couldn’t because he was headed to Mexico instead. So, Cam has the key witness they’ve needed to help with his big bro’s defense. Duhn-duhn-duhnnnn!
Anto is not making many friends in prison. However, he finds out El Piojo (The Louse--as in many lice but only one louse) who helped with the burn job for Juan Jaime Mondragon, is in there doing time for grand theft-auto. Antolin tells Piojo he’s certain El Gordo framed him by purposely leaving his pistol at the scene of the murder/attempted kidnapping they’ve charged him with. No way it was him! He’d never get involved with things like that, and besides, the dude who got iced was a guy he really liked! He’s got a good couple of lawyers, yeah, but he is still stuck in jail till his trial. Well, waddaya know? Piojo can help him out of this jam!
Luckily Ivan manages to recover the files on Lucia’s laptop that the obnoxiously noxious Maripaz had mischievously erased the day before. Lucia is elated since she can’t use Bernice’s notes because hers were specific to her thesis project (or something like that) and the final exam can’t be postponed. She invites Ivan and Don Anthony to her graduation ceremony, along with Alex to enjoy the festivities.
Meanwhile, Antolin still hasn’t gotten his one phone call for his attorney. The guard goes off to check on it and again Anto has to fend off the gang of prison goons who tease him about having his own lawyer. Anto still has the home-made knife he took off the last guy and threatens #2 Goon with it. “--Go fight with yourselves and leave me friggin’ alone!” They do.
At the cemetery we get a heart-rendering scene of Alex weeping over his grampa Gerardo’s grave, telling him how much he misses him. FF>>
Lucia graciously agrees to let Ivan visit his daughter as the rightful baby-daddy. He kisses her and Perlita and wishes Lucia a resplendently grand [airosa] time of it at her oral exams. He credits her intelligence and determination for getting her this far.
Meanwhile, Carlota invites Bernice, David and her parents over to El Socorro for the graduation celebration. Lucia comes back in and tells Lucrecia and Carly that she’s invited everyone she cares about to her graduation party—and no, that does not include either Camilo or Maripaz! Lucia races off with Bernie before Mama has a chance to pick another fight, so Lucrazy gripes to Carly about Cam’s not being invited. Carly rolls her eyes. “—They’re se-pa-ra-ted! What don’t you understand about ‘separated’?” Lulu's desperately hoping to keep town gossip to a low roar, sadly. “--Oh! They could easily enough make up again!” “--Get real!”
Carly then makes a quick call to the lawyer she spoke with earlier and says she is changing her will: she's taking her granddaughter, Maripaz Lomeli, out of it and giving what went to her to her other granddaughter, Lucia Lomeli. Lucre-zia chokes on her breakfast coffee. She grabs the phone out of Carly’s hand and clicks off. “—You’re absolutely crazy!!” “--Not a bit and if you don’t get out of my face I’m going to do the same to you!” Lulu threatens going to court to get her committed and declared incompetent to determine her will.
Carly then makes a quick call to the lawyer she spoke with earlier and says she is changing her will: she's taking her granddaughter, Maripaz Lomeli, out of it and giving what went to her to her other granddaughter, Lucia Lomeli. Lucre-zia chokes on her breakfast coffee. She grabs the phone out of Carly’s hand and clicks off. “—You’re absolutely crazy!!” “--Not a bit and if you don’t get out of my face I’m going to do the same to you!” Lulu threatens going to court to get her committed and declared incompetent to determine her will.
Lucre-zia races off to her room and has a sh!t fit. What’s she going to do now that JJ Meandragon is an invalid? She can’t marry a lump like that! She’s got to get herself a lawyer! But who?
In another part of the house, Lucia admits to Bernice that she’s decided to get back with Ivan, but she really feels sorry for Cam. Cam who? Bernie tells her to forget Cam. She was never really in love with the guy and then after the way he’s treated her since—just ugh! "--Hey, you feel badly when you step on an ant and smash him, too, right?" Lucia snickers at her BFF’s practicality. --Time to partayyyyyy!!
At Don Anthony’s, Benito’s mentioned the raw deal Anto got being transferred to prison. Carolina accidentally overhears the news and demands to see him. (How can you say no to a defenseless invalid?) Tony tries explaining visiting days are Sunday’s only and that in the meantime they really need to get back to Mexico to see her doctor for a follow-up exam.
Later that morning, Tony finds out that his private detective has come up with the right mechanic and that he’s agreed to testify. Licenciado Lara gets word from Cam at the same time. How did Don Anthony know? Well, Don Anthony hired a private investigator on his own who already found the dude. --Ok. So this get’s his brother off scott-free, right? Oh, well, with the business with the gun, they still need testimony from Gordy, and he’s disappeared off the face of the earth [se lo tragó la tierra = literally, the earth’s swallowed him]. [¿Verdad?] Ya know/understand/right?
Anto gets word that his lawyer’s there to speak to him. All the goons are ticked cuz the guy really does have his own mouthpiece! FF>>
In between those endlessly aggravating wipes of his glasses, Lic. Lara tells Anto that the mechanic’s been found and he’s given his testimony to the authorities. That leaves the problem with the gun and proving Gordo framed him with it. Anto tells Lara that a prisoner he knows--El Piojo--told him that the one responsible for the kidnapping was Gordy and that he purposely left the gun there to incriminate him. Lara says the judge isn’t the type to willingly take a prisoner’s word for things, but Anto says Piojo has known Gordy for a long time now and Gordy blabbed and bragged to everyone about it! Lara wonders what the guy’s in for and what he wants for his testimony. Anto tells him about the car theft and that he wants a reduced sentence. Hmmmm.
Carmen finally gets back to El Socorro and sees the place is set up for a party. Gloria tells her the decorations there are for Lucia’s graduation and she’s got to get back to fixing the hors d’oeuvres.
Carmen calls Cam who’s still out in the back forty and she tells him about today being the day Lucia graduates. He thought Lucia was going to let him know so he could go with her for it. (Fat chance, Beefcake Boy! After getting caught in bed with lascivious Big Sis? Are you delirious or what? Somebody needs to explain "separado" to him, too, I’d say.)
At the same time Cam is getting word from Carmen, Ivan, Alex and Tony are watching Bernice and Lucia pass their exams successfully. They listen to the professor give Lucia and Bernie an honorable mention specifically for their research. Both thank their family and teachers for their support and encouragement. Lucia includes Ivan--who’s wearing a mile-wide sh!t-eating grin. Alex brings in a couple of bouquets for Lucia and Bernice.
A couple minutes later Cam barges in on the group--still dressed in his tee-shirt and jeans from the back forty (and, as Viewerville suspects, no doubt smelling pretty rank from a nasty combination of sweat and manure). He drags Lucia over to the side, hands her more flowers—pretty skimpy compared to the fantabulous bouquet from Ivan--and congratulates her. She’s shocked to see him there, and she's definitely not the friendliest face in this crowd. Let’s just say Cam has real problems taking very broad hints cuz next minute he wants to know why she doesn’t give a damn he brought her pink roses and most of all, why she didn’t bother to tell him about the graduation. She frowns big time but keeps her anger at a simmer. “—You’re here, aren’t you?” He whines something else about still loving her and that he doesn’t want to lose her. (For my money, she can't get past the pungent stench of sweat and fresh cow pie! Sheesh!) Ivan interrupts this little scene Cam’s making to let him know in no uncertain terms that he has already lost her. Lucia’s no longer Cam’s exclusive property—as in Lucia’s got a different pair of size 12 boots shoved under her bed now.
During the reception we are treated to Ortiz (?) kissing Judith--so we now know that she’s gotten over Camilo. Ivan walks back into the party a bit after and tells Lucia that Cam down deep is really a good guy. He just has never known how to lose. Lucia says you’d never guess it these days. Jealousy has turned him to The Dark Side. Ivan asks if she’s sure she wants to live with him now. He’s not a normally selfish person. Lucia answers that although she feels badly for Cam, she’d love nothing more than to be with him permanently. Is she ready to divorce Cam though? Yes! She walks into the next room and right smack dab into
The Puppy-faced One!
The Puppy-faced One!
In town at the judge’s, El Piojo tells the judge how things really went down. The judge asks what kind of person Antolin was and did he hang around much with El Gordo? Not really, especially once Gordo left town for a long while. Who knows why kind of things Gordy got messed up in then! Anyway, Anto wasn’t a bad guy; he hung around rich guys and tried getting money out of them; he’d get women for them, and he’d look for their weak side (lado flaco = Achilles heel) so he could take advantage of them somehow, but nothing much more than that. Gordy started talking big [palabras mayores= strong words/excessive braggadocio] and said that he would screw over Antolin, smear him, to get even. He would be spending all his time [dedicarse] planning the kidnapping.
The police detective tells the judge he doesn’t think Antolin had anything to do with the crime. Lara leaves go with the glasses long enough to tell the judge (sorry, but I just can’t stop thinking about the ungodly number of snags in those silk ties of Lara's!) that it’s obvious then that Anto’s gun was stolen [sustraer] and used to incriminate him for the kidnapping and the murder–and any other things he might be involved in are not being discussed or adjudicated in this trial, though, “¿Verdad?” [Correct?] The judge looks over and frowns.
Lucia, meanwhile, gives Camilo the final brush-off. Their problems started long before Ivan. Yeah, he says, but that was only because she knew he was coming back. No, she says, cuz he knows they tried again and that it didn’t work out! But they made love after! Only to please him but not now! The fighting just started all over again. It was a waste cuz his jealousy always got the better of him. He insists that he still loves her and refuses to give up. “--Get it through your head that I was happy to stay a single mother; I only married you because you and my grandma convinced me to!” But he believed (naïve soul) that she’d fall in love with him, he tells her! Well, she didn’t, she says. You just can’t force that kind of feeling! What does he want from her, anyway? He says he wants them to get back together again. No way! N.O.!
Lucia goes back into the house and runs into Ivan waiting for her. She tells him she’s going to ask for a divorce. Too bad it won’t be an amiable one.
Back in the judge’s chambers, the judge learns that Piojo never managed to steal the car, but was only caught in the attempt. The judge says he doesn’t like taking the word of a convicted criminal. He is reminded by Lara that Anto wasn’t there and the fact that the lock on his door was tinkered with shows he’s innocent; that the law is on the guilty’s side in this case. The judge says he’ll think a bit longer on it and let them know.
Lara goes back to inform Antolin what went on after Piojo gave his testimony. The judge doesn’t like relying on a convicted criminal’s testimony, Lara explains, especially when they want something in return for it, you know? Anto’s fit to be tied. “—What else does the judge want? It’s a fact that my door lock was messed with and the mechanic proved I was nowhere near at the time cuz of the breakdown! You have no idea what all I have to put up with in this place! If I don’t get out of here soon, I’m going to end up killing one of these guys trying to defend myself from one of their attacks! Then I’ll be spending my life in here for that!” Lara takes his eyes off his glasses and tie long enough to squint and tell Antolin to be confident and careful. (Viewerville smirks.) “--We don’t want to lose what we’ve already gained, right?” Anto rolls his eyes and lets out a major sigh.
Alex comes back from the graduation ceremony and asks Caro why Anto wasn’t there. She fibs and says he’s not in Alamos right now. FF>>
Lara later calls to let Tony and Ivan know that the other prisoner testified for Antolin, but now they’ve got to wait however long it takes for the judge to make up his mind. Ivan tells Tony that was a lucky break for Anto. Tony agrees and then asks what Cam was doing there at the graduation and what he wanted with Lucia. Ivan says it’s going to be a long and messy divorce is all.
Back at El Socorro, Lucia tells Carly that she’s decided to get the divorce after all. It wont’ be easy since Cam has threatened to fight for custody of Perlita. The town will talk and her mama will get upset all over again. Carly tells her to forget what her mother says or wants. What matters is what Lucia wants! Lucia thanks her Gram for always being there for her and supporting her.
Cam stops in to see Merry Piece at the hotel she’s living in now. She greets him with a major mouth-meld but says she’s miffed he didn’t call her back right away when she called earlier. He says he was too busy and couldn’t. She whines that next time he needs to call her back immediately. He complains he smells like a sewer and she tells him to take a long, hot shower while she orders in a bite. He walks into the bedroom and begins to undress. Merry Piece’s tongue falls to the floor as she looks at those amazing muscles of his and calls room-service. (Mmm-mmm-mmmmm!)
Across town, Ivan stops in at Arcelia’s to tell her the good news about Antolin’s case.
Back in Merry Piece’s suite, Cam walks out wrapped only in a towel. He wants to get dressed, but she wheedles and convinces him not to just yet. There’s a knock at the door. MP tells him that must be the food. He stands and waits with that dumb empty stare of his and lo and behold—it’s not the food at all, but Mama Lucrazia! R-r-r-ouble Ruh-roh! Lucrazia gets an eyeful of beefcake and gives Maripaz a slap across the choppers that has Viewerville standing on chair tops and cheering.
Maripaz screams at her mother that this is the last time she’s ever going to hit her or else! “—My God, he’s your sister’s husband!!” Not anymore!! They’re separated!! Mama better get it straight now that she’s independent and single and she has been for years! Despite the fact Mama thinks she can treat her like she’s still fifteen, she can’t and better not! Lucia messed around with Ivan when he was engaged to her, don’t forget!
Esther is at Juan Jaime’s bedside ready to care for him despite the after-effects of his stroke. She notices that he can’t hold his own drinking cup now. Mr. Meandragon’s fire breathing tantrums have ebbed to a trickle of smoke from a single nostril. The doctor walks in on them and assures Esther that with help from family and friends that with practice JJ can recover his lost coordination. He’ll probably still have a bit of memory loss, especially with things that happened right before the stroke. David and Judi join their mom. He feebly tells them that he doesn’t want to go on living if he has to live dependent on others’ pity. He doesn’t remember David or Judith.
Cam is dressed now and giving MP grief for getting him into this mess! Because of her he’s going to lose his divorce case and custody! Who the heck gives a rat’s rump end, screams Merry Piece! He does, he yells back! He still loves her sister! Why??? How could he want her sister more than her? “--I’m beautiful, sexy….She’s just an unsophisticated sad-sack! She doesn’t even take off her nightgown to make love!!!” She tries to keep Cam from going, but he doesn’t want to listen to it and slams the door in her face. MP is furious and kicks the tray of food on the floor as she storms back to her empty bedroom. Fornication-ally foiled again!
That night Carmen gossips to Mama about the way Cam went to Lucia’s party and couldn’t face up to the fact she doesn’t want him anymore. He walks in just then. Celia tries to discuss Lucia’s party but he ignores that and tells her instead what happened at Antolin’s hearing and that he’ll probably be freed soon. Lara calls the house then with word for Cam that the judge will be giving them the verdict the next day.
Over at Suckers’ Ranch, Lucre-zia is complaining to Carly about the circus that is her daughter’s love-life and the humiliation of it all. Carly tells her to buck up and be proud –of what, asks Lucrazia? That they’re all still close and love one another (–well, not exactly where Merry Piece is concerned, ¿verdad? But why be splittin’ hairs here?) They’re the Curiel Family—still honorable after all these years. Lucia overhears the conversation and heads back to her room with her head hung low. She agrees with Mama, not grand-mama.
David shows up at the house and finds Saul all smiles, sitting in JJ’s big chair and drinking tequila, celebrating the unhappy circumstances. Rotten luck he’s recuperating. “—He should have died!” David wonders why he says that when he was always the man’s favorite. Favorite what? Why? David was a fruit and he was a brainless twit to the old fart! Well, he should have gone to see their mother at least. What for? He doesn’t owe that holier-than-thou female [beata= churchy, prudish, pious] anything! Davy tells him he’s pitiable. Saul says he should talk, hiding his homosexuality behind the pretense of a childhood trauma! Davy sneers back an answer about Saul's being worthless and shiftless. Saul tries egging him on by calling him a fag. David says he doesn’t fight brothers or cripples then pops him in the chops and knocks Saul flat on his crippled backside. (Yeah, the jackass deserved it, but that cold-cock didn’t satisfy. Davy would have been more credible keeping his fists to himself. Ya really don’t sock a real lame lame-ass, no matter how much he deserves it--cuz yeah, the ass really IS lame.)
Tony informs Ivan that he’ll be taking Caro to Mexico City for her follow up exam and wants to invite Lucia along since Caro really trusts her. Ivan says great and since they can’t fly back, he’ll come up with a car and drive them all back. Tony tells him that he also needs to head to the hospital to see his real dad. Ivan doesn’t want to at all but Tony reminds him it’s the humane thing to do, no matter how he really feels.
Ivan calls late that night to ask Lucia if she wants to join Tony and Caro cuz she’ll have to be ready at 7AM the next morning. Sure, she says. She’ll be ready. He says he wants to talk to her about the divorce thing when she gets back into town. She sounds upset about something he feels, but Lucia says it’s just she’s tired of the subject right now and doesn’t want to wake the baby.
Back at the prison, the next day, Anto nearly gets his face cut up this time by the same pack of goons. The guard calls over to him just then and says he’s got to appear at the cage [rejilla de prácticas = the bars in Mexican courtrooms behind which dangerous prisoners stand during their court session].
Carolina finally gets her bandages off and yes she’s able to see this time! The first person she notices is Lucia. Tears of relief all ‘round.
Back in Alamos, Antolin is finally declared innocent and free to go. More tears of relief. ¡Bendito sea Dios!
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Mini cap:
Ivan recovers's Lucia's thesis.
Maripaz & Camilo are NOT invited to Lucia's graduation or party (seriously Lucrazia, if MP is the one who deleted Lucia's thesis, why WOULD she be invited to the graduation? C'mon, now!)
Carmen finds out about graduation/party, tells Camilo about it.
Berenice & Lucia get their degrees while loved ones look on.
Camilo busts up in the graduation to stake his claim in Lucia. Frowns abound.
Lucia decides to divorce Camilo but after hearing Lucrazia talking about scandals gets wishy washy.
Lucrazia catches Camilo bucknaked w/only a towel in MP's hotel room. For once MP was not lying when she said nothing was going on.
JJ wakes up, wants to die, doesn't know who David is.
The lawyer cleans his glasses.
Carolina goes back to the doctor, sees Lucia & Tony for the 1st time.
Antolin is almost shanked by a piece of glass, but is released from jail b/c of the mechanic's evidence.
And the highlight of the episode (to me):
David goes by the house to tell Saul that JJ woke up. Saul doesn't care. They get into a verbal spat. Saul challenges David to a fight. David says "naw, son, I don't roll like that. Especially against people in your state." Saul says something extremely insulting against David (probably calling him gay---obviously he hasn't heard about Berenice). David calmly walks over to Saul & busts him dead in the middle of the face, knocking him over, then calmly strolling out of the room. LOL!!!
Ivan recovers's Lucia's thesis.
Maripaz & Camilo are NOT invited to Lucia's graduation or party (seriously Lucrazia, if MP is the one who deleted Lucia's thesis, why WOULD she be invited to the graduation? C'mon, now!)
Carmen finds out about graduation/party, tells Camilo about it.
Berenice & Lucia get their degrees while loved ones look on.
Camilo busts up in the graduation to stake his claim in Lucia. Frowns abound.
Lucia decides to divorce Camilo but after hearing Lucrazia talking about scandals gets wishy washy.
Lucrazia catches Camilo bucknaked w/only a towel in MP's hotel room. For once MP was not lying when she said nothing was going on.
JJ wakes up, wants to die, doesn't know who David is.
The lawyer cleans his glasses.
Carolina goes back to the doctor, sees Lucia & Tony for the 1st time.
Antolin is almost shanked by a piece of glass, but is released from jail b/c of the mechanic's evidence.
And the highlight of the episode (to me):
David goes by the house to tell Saul that JJ woke up. Saul doesn't care. They get into a verbal spat. Saul challenges David to a fight. David says "naw, son, I don't roll like that. Especially against people in your state." Saul says something extremely insulting against David (probably calling him gay---obviously he hasn't heard about Berenice). David calmly walks over to Saul & busts him dead in the middle of the face, knocking him over, then calmly strolling out of the room. LOL!!!
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:00:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:00:00 AM EST
I also want to say I think I heard another reference to Saul (from David) possibly being illegit? Or was I just imagining things?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:18:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:18:00 AM EST
I was miraculously able to read Saul's lips on the bleeped-out word: Maricón, which means "fag". It was high time somebody decked Saul and damn good thing it was David.
Lucrazia's state of denial about Maripaz continues to astound me. Of course, having had a brother with a drug problem I have witnessed this kind of denial, but Lucrazia takes it to a whole new low. Nobody else in the Curiel household could have deleted Lucia's files. Despite his motives Camilo wouldn't have done that.
And despite that nothing actually had time to happen, the intent was clear with regard to Camilo in a towel in Maripaz' hotel room.
Lucrazia is truly loca if she thinks she can get away with having her mother declared insane over changing her will.
Lucia being wishy washy is par for the course and no surprise. That is disappointing.
Lucrazia's state of denial about Maripaz continues to astound me. Of course, having had a brother with a drug problem I have witnessed this kind of denial, but Lucrazia takes it to a whole new low. Nobody else in the Curiel household could have deleted Lucia's files. Despite his motives Camilo wouldn't have done that.
And despite that nothing actually had time to happen, the intent was clear with regard to Camilo in a towel in Maripaz' hotel room.
Lucrazia is truly loca if she thinks she can get away with having her mother declared insane over changing her will.
Lucia being wishy washy is par for the course and no surprise. That is disappointing.
Thanks for the header good luck with your move. Thanks for the mini recap. I am so glad Antolin is out of jail. I thought he was
a goner in the jail with the guy with the piece of glass. Looking forward to Carolina seeing him for the first time. Lic Lara and his glasses. Maybe he constantly cleans them the same way someone doodles when they are on the phone lol. But he also does it when he talks too! I wish Lucia would get a spine and just divorce Camilo already. I too loved how Saul was hit in the face by David.
Madelaine
a goner in the jail with the guy with the piece of glass. Looking forward to Carolina seeing him for the first time. Lic Lara and his glasses. Maybe he constantly cleans them the same way someone doodles when they are on the phone lol. But he also does it when he talks too! I wish Lucia would get a spine and just divorce Camilo already. I too loved how Saul was hit in the face by David.
Madelaine
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:50:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 9:50:00 AM EST
That lawyer playing with his glasses constantly was annoying. And I too thought I heard Saul refer to David as being illegitimate.
Does anyone know what "manga la muerto/a" mean? Can't find it anywhere.
Does anyone know what "manga la muerto/a" mean? Can't find it anywhere.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 11:46:00 AM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 11:46:00 AM EST
Anon207-
I love your mini cap. The only change I would make is to add the lawyer cleans his glasses at the end of every paragraph you wrote. I counted 6 times he cleaned them in this show alone.
I'm really glad that Camilo never actually had sex with Maripaz. At least he has some decency left.
I thought there was talk in an earlier episode about Saul being illegitimate. But the details haven't come out yet.
Cathy
I love your mini cap. The only change I would make is to add the lawyer cleans his glasses at the end of every paragraph you wrote. I counted 6 times he cleaned them in this show alone.
I'm really glad that Camilo never actually had sex with Maripaz. At least he has some decency left.
I thought there was talk in an earlier episode about Saul being illegitimate. But the details haven't come out yet.
Cathy
There is a huge missed product placement opportunity here. Licenciado Laconic desperately needs some V-8.
What a great episode. I don't normally condone violence, but David popping Saul in the snout was so satisfying I had to watch it many times.
"Nothing happened." Going to the hotel room of one's known bedbuddy and getting naked is not NOTHING, even if they didn't actually get to the sexo rudo part. It's almost as annoying as when people say "it didn't mean anything." Of course your behavior means something.
Yay, Antolín is free. Now he just needs to watch out for retribution.
What a great episode. I don't normally condone violence, but David popping Saul in the snout was so satisfying I had to watch it many times.
"Nothing happened." Going to the hotel room of one's known bedbuddy and getting naked is not NOTHING, even if they didn't actually get to the sexo rudo part. It's almost as annoying as when people say "it didn't mean anything." Of course your behavior means something.
Yay, Antolín is free. Now he just needs to watch out for retribution.
Saul had had his nose broken 3 times by now.
Also, why didn't Camilo go to his mom's house to shower?
Also, why didn't Camilo go to his mom's house to shower?
Best wishes with your move, Jardinera. And thanks fort the mini cap Anon207. I too loved David clocking Saul (though I don't condone violence).
UA - yes, Lucrazy's continued denial of MP's wretchedness is astounding. And even after she saw what she did all she could talk about it scandal not MP's continued horrible behavior. And Lucia's supposed martyrdom is silly and painful. I do wish writers would not have "good" people do incredibly stupid things in the name of being good.
cathyx - Camillo has had sex with MP. On Thursday's episode she tells her mother they had rough sex though she doesn't mention his name. (Our recapper Kat has a hilarious take on MP/Lucrazia's convo.)
Yeah Antolín is free.
UA - yes, Lucrazy's continued denial of MP's wretchedness is astounding. And even after she saw what she did all she could talk about it scandal not MP's continued horrible behavior. And Lucia's supposed martyrdom is silly and painful. I do wish writers would not have "good" people do incredibly stupid things in the name of being good.
cathyx - Camillo has had sex with MP. On Thursday's episode she tells her mother they had rough sex though she doesn't mention his name. (Our recapper Kat has a hilarious take on MP/Lucrazia's convo.)
Yeah Antolín is free.
Jardinera- Best of luck with the move. I'm looking forward to your usual snarky recap later.
Anon207- Thanks for the mini-recap to start us off. I would add that it was actually the testimony of the guy in jail with Anto that got him off, not the mechanic's testimony. The judge still really wanted to keep Anto behind bars, just because he's a known delinquent, but Lic Glasses kept reminding the judge that those past crimes were NOT to be considered here. He may be laconic and annoying, but he knows the law and what he's doing.
I was so happy Anto did not get stabbed and was set free. I hope this experience scares him straight. Ojala!
There was NO reason for Camilo to shower at MP's hotel. He knows what he was looking for, even if he tries to play innocent. He knew where things were going to end up, but he would have been able to fool himself and act like MP just "tricked/seduced" hm again.
I am so mad at Lucia for being wishy washy about divorcing Camilo simply because she overheard Lucrezia talking about scandal. What the hell does she care?! Is there any point in not divorcing Camilo. Does she ever intend to sleep with him or even live with him again? NOPE! So why the hell not just go the next step and divorce him? So frustrating!
I totally agree that the highlight was David popping Saul in the nose. I did not hear him refer to Saul as a bastard, but already deleted my recording, so I don't know. At the end of comments from the last night, Jarocha (our amiga in Mexico) said JJ just used the word bastard to insult Saul and didn't mean it literally.
Can't wait for Caro to see Anto for the first time and free!
Anon207- Thanks for the mini-recap to start us off. I would add that it was actually the testimony of the guy in jail with Anto that got him off, not the mechanic's testimony. The judge still really wanted to keep Anto behind bars, just because he's a known delinquent, but Lic Glasses kept reminding the judge that those past crimes were NOT to be considered here. He may be laconic and annoying, but he knows the law and what he's doing.
I was so happy Anto did not get stabbed and was set free. I hope this experience scares him straight. Ojala!
There was NO reason for Camilo to shower at MP's hotel. He knows what he was looking for, even if he tries to play innocent. He knew where things were going to end up, but he would have been able to fool himself and act like MP just "tricked/seduced" hm again.
I am so mad at Lucia for being wishy washy about divorcing Camilo simply because she overheard Lucrezia talking about scandal. What the hell does she care?! Is there any point in not divorcing Camilo. Does she ever intend to sleep with him or even live with him again? NOPE! So why the hell not just go the next step and divorce him? So frustrating!
I totally agree that the highlight was David popping Saul in the nose. I did not hear him refer to Saul as a bastard, but already deleted my recording, so I don't know. At the end of comments from the last night, Jarocha (our amiga in Mexico) said JJ just used the word bastard to insult Saul and didn't mean it literally.
Can't wait for Caro to see Anto for the first time and free!
Karen-
Yes, how could I forget about the rough sex? All we need now is for Maripaz to get pregnant.
Vivi in DC-
I love Lic Glasses. Perfect name.
Yes, how could I forget about the rough sex? All we need now is for Maripaz to get pregnant.
Vivi in DC-
I love Lic Glasses. Perfect name.
"Does anyone know what "manga la muerto/a" mean? Can't find it anywhere."
found this on word reference
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=630574
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found this on word reference
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=630574
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Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 2:39:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 2:39:00 PM EST
Anon
Who & how was that expression used?
Variopinta
Who & how was that expression used?
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Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 2:52:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 2:52:00 PM EST
David clocking Saul in the mush...I guess that completes his circle, doesn't it?
(Others that need to be clocked in the mush:
1. Licenciado Lara (preferably while cleaning his damn glasses)
2. El Gordo)
And not a peep about Maripaz's sizing Camilo up like a T-bone steak when he wandered by her hotel room? For shame! :)
I'm wondering if J3's apparent "memory loss" near the end of the episode was just him screwing with his family or legit...his regressing to a childlike state could actually be fun, so to speak, for the show's downhill run.
(Others that need to be clocked in the mush:
1. Licenciado Lara (preferably while cleaning his damn glasses)
2. El Gordo)
And not a peep about Maripaz's sizing Camilo up like a T-bone steak when he wandered by her hotel room? For shame! :)
I'm wondering if J3's apparent "memory loss" near the end of the episode was just him screwing with his family or legit...his regressing to a childlike state could actually be fun, so to speak, for the show's downhill run.
Actually last night was not the first time David has clocked Saul, he did it before in JJ's office, and JJ was almost kind of impressed that David would go there.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 6:40:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 6:40:00 PM EST
When Lucia and Ivan get married in the finale, they should take the kids and go to L.A. if only to get as far away from Lucrazia as possible. Especially if Merry Piece is still alive at the end of the story.
Whether JJ is genuinely incapacitated or whether he's faking it, at least Lucrazia won't marry him.
Whether JJ is genuinely incapacitated or whether he's faking it, at least Lucrazia won't marry him.
Sorry to disappoint you Cathy, but Camilo definitely had sex with Maripaz the last time he visited her hotel room. Video of them rolling around together wrapped in sheets. Later Maripaz even crowed in detail about how great her new lover was to her mom! Which is I'm sure why Lucrezia reacted so strongly when she opened the hotel room door. She assumed, correctly, that Camilo was Maripaz's new lover.
Which is one reason Camilo is so disgusting in his threats to try to take Perla away by accusing Lucia of infidelity with Ivan.
Audrey
Which is one reason Camilo is so disgusting in his threats to try to take Perla away by accusing Lucia of infidelity with Ivan.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 7:46:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 7:46:00 PM EST
Best of luck to Jardinera in the move -- always interesting and difficult!
I agree with all on the sweet moment we witnessed when David bopped Saul. I had to laugh at Lucrezia's description of the tangled web of weddings, affairs and babies that have taken place between her daughters, Ivan and Camilo. It has been something of a disaster.
Ivan always has to ruin his good actions with just a little bit too much pushiness. He was lovely at the graduation ceremony, not so much at the party.
Poor Esther. Didn't escape after all. Are we about to see a new JJ? The only explanation for a personality change with this guy would be a post-coma personality transformation of the type the doctor described.
The lawyer and the glasses is strange. What's the deal?
I agree with all on the sweet moment we witnessed when David bopped Saul. I had to laugh at Lucrezia's description of the tangled web of weddings, affairs and babies that have taken place between her daughters, Ivan and Camilo. It has been something of a disaster.
Ivan always has to ruin his good actions with just a little bit too much pushiness. He was lovely at the graduation ceremony, not so much at the party.
Poor Esther. Didn't escape after all. Are we about to see a new JJ? The only explanation for a personality change with this guy would be a post-coma personality transformation of the type the doctor described.
The lawyer and the glasses is strange. What's the deal?
Yeah, I have always been sympathetic of Camilo during his marriage to Lucia, but he's lost all sympathy (or right to complain) after his antics with Merry Piece. I knew that they'd probably have him do something stupid, and they certainly did!
It was so nice to see Antolin freed! And just in time, too! I can hardly wait for Monday's episode, where he finally gets to see Carolina "see" him! It will probably be a nerve-wracking moment for him, but he shouldn't worry about he looks, should he? LOL
It was so nice to see Antolin freed! And just in time, too! I can hardly wait for Monday's episode, where he finally gets to see Carolina "see" him! It will probably be a nerve-wracking moment for him, but he shouldn't worry about he looks, should he? LOL
Yeah, that is quite the move Jardinera, from MO to FL! Hope it's going well. Can't believe you still plan to take time to deliver a recap!
Just curious. What part of FL are you moving to - north, south, or panhandle? If it's south FL you can have quite a jardin, kind of like mine here in the Rio Grand Valley. :D
Good luck!
Audrey
Just curious. What part of FL are you moving to - north, south, or panhandle? If it's south FL you can have quite a jardin, kind of like mine here in the Rio Grand Valley. :D
Good luck!
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 10:46:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 10:46:00 PM EST
It sounds like it was a wild episode. I missed it because our cable was out last night.
Good luck with your move, Jardinera!
Good luck with your move, Jardinera!
Nevermind, I found it. I watched it.
That poor lawyer really needs to go back to his optometrist, maybe he could be fitted with contact lenses.
I got tearful watching Carolina see. Can't wait for her to see Antolin.
That poor lawyer really needs to go back to his optometrist, maybe he could be fitted with contact lenses.
I got tearful watching Carolina see. Can't wait for her to see Antolin.
Emarie
Where did you find it?
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Where did you find it?
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Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 8:36:00 AM EST
: Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 8:36:00 AM EST
Jardinera, Muchas gracias. Good luck with your move. How did you manage a stellar recap like this in the midst of all that disorienting hard work?
Emarie, I think I remember the blonde guy saying to Antolin, something like: well, you'll have to give me something in exchange. I didn't like the looks of that glass shank; glad Anto got out in the nick of time. I hope his compa in the jail doesn't have to take a hit for him.
Emarie, I think I remember the blonde guy saying to Antolin, something like: well, you'll have to give me something in exchange. I didn't like the looks of that glass shank; glad Anto got out in the nick of time. I hope his compa in the jail doesn't have to take a hit for him.
I finally got around to actually watching the episode and Lic. Gafas cracked me up. It was almost like some sort of OCD mania. He kept squinting at the glasses...almost like he saw infinitesimal bits of dust.
I'm glad Anto got out just in the nick as well. I cannot wait until Caro sees him for the first time.
I enjoyed David hitting Saul, but my favortie part was Camilo telling Merry Piece that he loves Lucia and doesn't want her...and MP's ensuing snit. hee hee.
I'm glad Anto got out just in the nick as well. I cannot wait until Caro sees him for the first time.
I enjoyed David hitting Saul, but my favortie part was Camilo telling Merry Piece that he loves Lucia and doesn't want her...and MP's ensuing snit. hee hee.
Just WHY was Camilo taking a shower at MP's, or at least what was his lame excuse?
Variopinta
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Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 10:14:00 AM EST
: Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 10:14:00 AM EST
LXV-yes, I think one of those guys corroborated Anto's story and helped him get out; the guy will be toast now.
Sara-I don't know, those glasses looked a little dirty to me.
Yep, I'd say David is cured now.
Sara-I don't know, those glasses looked a little dirty to me.
Yep, I'd say David is cured now.
Thanks for the link for the explanation ............
I don't remember the context that 'manga la muerta" was used but I heard both on Familia con Suerte and LFdD in one evening and also previously on one of those TN. I will pay more attention to the context next time I hear it
I don't remember the context that 'manga la muerta" was used but I heard both on Familia con Suerte and LFdD in one evening and also previously on one of those TN. I will pay more attention to the context next time I hear it
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 11:35:00 AM EST
: Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 11:35:00 AM EST
Yay! Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I can't believe you managed to write such a complete one during your move. Plus you usual great snark too!
Audrey
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 6:19:00 PM EST
: Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 6:19:00 PM EST
Jardinera, thank you. What a dedicated recapper to do this detailed recap in the middle of a major move. I really appreciate this and all of the many hours I have read of you very talented writings.
Rosemary
Rosemary
Permalink posted by : Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 7:21:00 PM EST
: Sunday, December 4, 2011 at 7:21:00 PM EST
Thanks Jardinera for your recap in spite of moving. It was very helpful in clearing up the prison guy that helped Anto mystery.
Thank you Anon 207 for your quick mini recap.
Thank you Anon 207 for your quick mini recap.
Jardinera- This was fabulous! Thank you so much. How was the move?
You are a better person than I. I did not chide David at all for popping Saul in the face. I know it would have been bigger for him not to, but I enjoyed it just as much as MP getting elbowed in the face the other day.
You are a better person than I. I did not chide David at all for popping Saul in the face. I know it would have been bigger for him not to, but I enjoyed it just as much as MP getting elbowed in the face the other day.
I am thrilled to find this blog! I began watching novelas several years ago, as soon as I started dating my now husband. I basically learned Spanish from the novelas! (I distinctly remember Rubi was the first one I saw-and understood NOTHING of it but fell in love with the drama.)
I love reading each of your comments, insights and interpretations! Very humorous and clever!
Camilo (I call him CamMIO because he is so possesive of Lucia) is somehow going to end up collaborating with Merry Piece to harm Lucia. The scene where she kicks things off the table and screams "How I HATE Lucia!" is alarming! She is capable of anything. Why does Lucrazy take such a concern with MP being cut out of the will? Its almost as if she selfishly believes that MP and herself should be sole inheritors.
I keep waiting for one of the characters to mention Lic Lentes, can it seriously be written into the script to constantly be wiping those glasses and yet no one seems to notice?
I took note of the fact that CamMio goes to tell his mother the good news about Antolin and she informs him that Ivan already told her. Made me smirk but I'm certain it will come up in a future conversation between the two Lucia lovers.
I love reading each of your comments, insights and interpretations! Very humorous and clever!
Camilo (I call him CamMIO because he is so possesive of Lucia) is somehow going to end up collaborating with Merry Piece to harm Lucia. The scene where she kicks things off the table and screams "How I HATE Lucia!" is alarming! She is capable of anything. Why does Lucrazy take such a concern with MP being cut out of the will? Its almost as if she selfishly believes that MP and herself should be sole inheritors.
I keep waiting for one of the characters to mention Lic Lentes, can it seriously be written into the script to constantly be wiping those glasses and yet no one seems to notice?
I took note of the fact that CamMio goes to tell his mother the good news about Antolin and she informs him that Ivan already told her. Made me smirk but I'm certain it will come up in a future conversation between the two Lucia lovers.
Welcome Kathleen! I love the name CamMIO. He certainly is possesive so it fits.
Lucrezia has an interesting relationship with her daughters. Sometimes it seems like she admires MP for living the kind of free/wild life she wishes she had the guts to pursue; while she is trying to force Lucia to live the kind of "respectable" life she failed to achieve.
Lucrezia has an interesting relationship with her daughters. Sometimes it seems like she admires MP for living the kind of free/wild life she wishes she had the guts to pursue; while she is trying to force Lucia to live the kind of "respectable" life she failed to achieve.
Hi, all! Yeah, it's a week long process here intermixed with tending to the nieto. You guys and the recap are my one guilty pleasure, so .... I'm now an official Ft. Myers resident. Definitely a mindblower seeing palm trees and tropical flowers in December and still wearing sandals~the palms and flower bushes all have lights strung around them, too!
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Love the CamMIO moniker, Kathleen! Welcome! You're gonna fit in fine here, I'm sure.
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Thanks Anon207 for pinch hitting with the mini cap. Much appreciated.
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Madelaine: Welcome! Don't think Viewerville wasn't worried that handsome Antolin might have had his pretty face tattooed with a scar, either! It was! Loved his prison-issue muscle shirts, too.
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Love the CamMIO moniker, Kathleen! Welcome! You're gonna fit in fine here, I'm sure.
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Thanks Anon207 for pinch hitting with the mini cap. Much appreciated.
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Madelaine: Welcome! Don't think Viewerville wasn't worried that handsome Antolin might have had his pretty face tattooed with a scar, either! It was! Loved his prison-issue muscle shirts, too.
Cathyx: Good question about CamMIO not just going home to shower. Guess you can take the boy out of the country but not the country out of the boy.
Guess MP was going to be used as an escape valve with all that sexo rudo. I'd say Merry Piece needs one also about now. Can't you just see her hooking up with Lacadasical Lara. I can see those glasses of his really fogging up and his tie going into curly-cues.
Guess MP was going to be used as an escape valve with all that sexo rudo. I'd say Merry Piece needs one also about now. Can't you just see her hooking up with Lacadasical Lara. I can see those glasses of his really fogging up and his tie going into curly-cues.
Welcome to the sub-tropical zone Jardinera! I love the warm winters and being surrounded by colorful flowering plants in December. And if winter does decide to show up, it only lasts for a month, and sometimes only a week!
I have been to the Fort Myers area many times. I love visiting Sanibel island, especially the wildlife refuge there and the amazing shell beaches. And we once attended the sailing school on Captiva island.
By the way, the super tall palms come from Sonora Mexico! In LFDD there have been lots of scenic shots showing these same palms in the towns. The plant species is Washingtonia Robusta and it is planted all along the Gulf and Southern California coasts of the US. It is hardy to 20 degrees F and needs a lot of sunlight, so that limits its range in the US. It readily self-propagates here in the Valley, and I expect in South Florida too. We also have our shorter native Texas Sabal Palm which is related to the Florida one.
Audrey
I have been to the Fort Myers area many times. I love visiting Sanibel island, especially the wildlife refuge there and the amazing shell beaches. And we once attended the sailing school on Captiva island.
By the way, the super tall palms come from Sonora Mexico! In LFDD there have been lots of scenic shots showing these same palms in the towns. The plant species is Washingtonia Robusta and it is planted all along the Gulf and Southern California coasts of the US. It is hardy to 20 degrees F and needs a lot of sunlight, so that limits its range in the US. It readily self-propagates here in the Valley, and I expect in South Florida too. We also have our shorter native Texas Sabal Palm which is related to the Florida one.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 5, 2011 at 9:23:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 5, 2011 at 9:23:00 AM EST
Saul is a daughter of a servant that JJ had an affair with. Esther and JJ had a conversation I believe just before she left him and she said she cared and took care of Saul as if she were her own son even though it was from an affair with a maid. Ala Ivan.
I for one loved the attorney, I started counting how many times he cleaned his glasses, but could not keep up because I was laughing so much.
Good thing to see Lucia finally come out of her mouse hole.
Can't wait for Carolina to see Antolin, by far to me the best couple on this TN.
I think everyone made a good point that Camillo did not have to go to MP's house to clean up, good point to make it was something I completely missed. It's one of the reasons why I love this website so much.
I for one loved the attorney, I started counting how many times he cleaned his glasses, but could not keep up because I was laughing so much.
Good thing to see Lucia finally come out of her mouse hole.
Can't wait for Carolina to see Antolin, by far to me the best couple on this TN.
I think everyone made a good point that Camillo did not have to go to MP's house to clean up, good point to make it was something I completely missed. It's one of the reasons why I love this website so much.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 5, 2011 at 9:26:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 5, 2011 at 9:26:00 AM EST
Audrey: Yep! That palm does look very familiar!! Initially they all look the same but a couple of species are noticeable different now. Tks for the info --and I linked to some photos and descriptions after.
So if Saul is the son of a servant and JJ recognized him, how come he didn't recognize Ivan?
Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing Ivan wasn't cared for by JJ, or else he'd be a stupid good-for-nothing like Saul, timid like Judith or repressed/bullied like David.
That Judith & David are good people are testaments to Ester's love & care. I don't know what happened with Saul.
Camilo should have stuck with Judith...she would have loved & cared for HIM and not been a sad sack all the time. Also, being JJ's son-in-law he probably would have had JJ's support for the Ag Ass, leading to the power & influence he wants so badly.
But now Judith's happy with Orozco. Shoulda stuck with Judith, Camilo. Better luck next lifetime.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing Ivan wasn't cared for by JJ, or else he'd be a stupid good-for-nothing like Saul, timid like Judith or repressed/bullied like David.
That Judith & David are good people are testaments to Ester's love & care. I don't know what happened with Saul.
Camilo should have stuck with Judith...she would have loved & cared for HIM and not been a sad sack all the time. Also, being JJ's son-in-law he probably would have had JJ's support for the Ag Ass, leading to the power & influence he wants so badly.
But now Judith's happy with Orozco. Shoulda stuck with Judith, Camilo. Better luck next lifetime.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 5, 2011 at 11:00:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 5, 2011 at 11:00:00 AM EST
I am actually ok with Camilo dumping Judith (she's better off). It was mature of him to end things with her because he realized he could not feel the same way about her and she did him. That is why it irks me so much that he is trying to force Lucia to love him, when he himself dumped Judith because he could not make himself love her.
I was struck by how lonely Cam looked during the party, going from one room where the girl he dumped was smooching on her new guy, to the next, where the woman he loves was canoodling with the man she loves.
I was struck by how lonely Cam looked during the party, going from one room where the girl he dumped was smooching on her new guy, to the next, where the woman he loves was canoodling with the man she loves.
JJ didn't know he had a son, Ivan, because his mother left Alamos before he was born. She returned when he was around 12.
Speaking of kids, MP seems like the love/hate child of JJ and Lucrecia.
Speaking of kids, MP seems like the love/hate child of JJ and Lucrecia.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 5, 2011 at 11:55:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 5, 2011 at 11:55:00 AM EST
Vivi, you're absolutely right about Cammio's double standard. He did do the mature thing in the way he broke up with Judith, but can't handle the boot being on the other foot.
What also bothers me is why would he shower and put the sweaty clothes back on? The first thing I want to do when I take a shower is put on something clean and fresh.
He should also shower twice as long after having sexo rudo with the Merry Piece. How couldn't anybody feel dirty after sex with her?
I totally understand Lucia not wanting MP at her graduation; Lucrazia needs a shrink for not understanding this.
What also bothers me is why would he shower and put the sweaty clothes back on? The first thing I want to do when I take a shower is put on something clean and fresh.
He should also shower twice as long after having sexo rudo with the Merry Piece. How couldn't anybody feel dirty after sex with her?
I totally understand Lucia not wanting MP at her graduation; Lucrazia needs a shrink for not understanding this.
Jardinera, thanks for the recap. Congratulations with your move. It must be great being closer to your nieto!
Welcome Kathleen. You will definitely fit in here as your CamMIO is an excellent riff on his name.
Welcome Kathleen. You will definitely fit in here as your CamMIO is an excellent riff on his name.
Marvelous Jardinera. ITA with all the other sentiments that you were able to do a perfect recap in the midst of everything you have going on!
Loved "beefcake boy" and "obnoxiously noxious". Excellent!
Can't wait for Caro to actuallly "see" Anton.
Diana
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Loved "beefcake boy" and "obnoxiously noxious". Excellent!
Can't wait for Caro to actuallly "see" Anton.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 5, 2011 at 1:52:00 PM EST
: Monday, December 5, 2011 at 1:52:00 PM EST
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