Tuesday, January 24, 2012
La Que No Podía Amar #16 Lunes 1/23/12 Another Indecent Proposal
I apologize for the lateness of this recap, as I was very ill yesterday and this morning. Please fill in any missing details. Gracias.
Antes:
Mercedes and David talk about Gustavo's disappearance. Ana Paula argues with Tia MentiRosa. Rogelio lets Bruno know he's not to pursue Ana Paula.
Ana Paula demands to know what Tia MentiRosa knows about Gustavo, tells her that no matter what happens she will never marry Bruno, then goes off to bathe. MentiRosa looks at the shell pendant, satisfied that Gustavo is dead. Rogelio knocks at the door and she lets him in. When he asks about Ana Paula she tells him she is bathing and would he like to wait for her? She is upset about Miguel and begins wailing about “What will we do?”. He calls her on her balderdash about her being ill, saying she is capable of selling Ana Paula to the highest bidder. Which is himself.
Nuevo:
Outside somewhere: Several men find Gustavo.
Casa Carmona: Rogelio starts to leave when Tia MentiRosa gets in his way.
Rosaura: No, no, no. You will not leave! You will not leave! Not until you listen to me!
Rogelio: Very well, then. What do you want to tell me?
Rosaura: You have no idea what it is to be poor and have nothing to eat. Or you wouldn't find it so easy to criticize me when I'm looking for the best for Ana Paula.
Rogelio: And according to you what is best for Ana Paula?
Rosaura (as though she were reading pornography): I don't want her to have to work. My niece is beautiful. And good. She deserves to live like a queen.
Rogelio: I can give her that life.
Rosaura: Yes; other men also, like Bruno or ...
Rogelio: Like nobody. Because nobody can give her as much as I.
Rosaura (starts becoming confused): Don't take this the wrong way, but there are other things that my girl values more.
Rogelio: I'm listening.
Rosaura: She is a decent girl. Amusing, and very innocent. Like you won't find. On the other hand, you have money but also this little inconvenience...
Rogelio: Very well, then. What do you want to tell me?
Rosaura: You have no idea what it is to be poor and have nothing to eat. Or you wouldn't find it so easy to criticize me when I'm looking for the best for Ana Paula.
Rogelio: And according to you what is best for Ana Paula?
Rosaura (as though she were reading pornography): I don't want her to have to work. My niece is beautiful. And good. She deserves to live like a queen.
Rogelio: I can give her that life.
Rosaura: Yes; other men also, like Bruno or ...
Rogelio: Like nobody. Because nobody can give her as much as I.
Rosaura (starts becoming confused): Don't take this the wrong way, but there are other things that my girl values more.
Rogelio: I'm listening.
Rosaura: She is a decent girl. Amusing, and very innocent. Like you won't find. On the other hand, you have money but also this little inconvenience...
Horror movie music begins as he slams the brakes on the wheel chair and slowly stands, getting in her face! He's not standing completely straight, but Tia MentiRosa is muy impactada.
Rogelio: Shut up! Listen to my proposition. Surely that is more than a little inconvenience.
Casa Durán: Esteban and Mercedes talk about his pending divorce. He had always thought marriage was forever, but knows that his is ending. He would like to recover Vainessa, but is sure that's impossible. The doorbell rings and Mercedes wants it to be news of Gustavo. However, it's Dr. Ernesto Cortez, who is also obviously interested in Mercedes. Esteban departs. We find out that Ernesto is jealous at the sight of Mercedes with Esteban, but she reminds Ernesto that he also married.
Hospital, Miguel's Room: Dani, being the loyal young lady she is, is determined to stick by Miguel despite that he is going to jail for murder. She is sure he will be proven innocent. She cries. Alas, she still doesn't look pretty when she does.
Casa Durán: Mercedes reminds Ernesto that he has his family and she has her concerns. Possibly they had once been engaged and were separated by some unfair circumstance. He asks about Gustavo. She is determined not to lose faith.
Casa Carmona: MentiRosa does a victory dance and sings so badly this author wants to mute the TV.
Ana Paula: Aunt, who were you talking to just now? I heard voices. Shouting.
Rosaura: Nobody. I was singing. Sometimes when I sing I scream. [Audience gives thanks for the warning] Hija, enough of the sadness. Singing or crying, I can only think your brother is going to prison. For years. Along with the thieves and evildoers.
Ana Paula: I'm very worried, too.
Rosaura: It's so unfair. A boy so good, so hard-working, who had a good future in front of him...Who knows for how long? You have to help him.
Ana Paula: Yes, but not like that. Aunt, do you really think marrying Bruno or anyone else would solve this problem?
Rosaura: Many women marry to have someone to protect them...
Ana Paula: Yes, Aunt, before...
Rosaura: Think about what you want. This whole family depends on you.
Rosaura: Nobody. I was singing. Sometimes when I sing I scream. [Audience gives thanks for the warning] Hija, enough of the sadness. Singing or crying, I can only think your brother is going to prison. For years. Along with the thieves and evildoers.
Ana Paula: I'm very worried, too.
Rosaura: It's so unfair. A boy so good, so hard-working, who had a good future in front of him...Who knows for how long? You have to help him.
Ana Paula: Yes, but not like that. Aunt, do you really think marrying Bruno or anyone else would solve this problem?
Rosaura: Many women marry to have someone to protect them...
Ana Paula: Yes, Aunt, before...
Rosaura: Think about what you want. This whole family depends on you.
Jardin Galvan: Sin-thia and Vainessa talk about David and Rogelio. David spends too much time working, Sin-thia say, so he gave her the earrings she's wearing. Vainessa tells her to enjoy it; at least she's getting out of the house. Vainessa says she will convince Rogelio to move in with her family after they're married. Sin-thia is doubtful that this is possible.
La Calle: MentiRosa and Bruno talk about how Ana Paula must forget Gustavo now that he's dead. Bruno tells her to keep quiet about this; she assures him that it's all between the two of them. She suggests that he back off for a while from pursuing Ana Paula, be a friend to her. In her usual manner, she fails to disclose the real truth.
Casa Durán: The phone rings and Mercedes answers. She has to tell her mother that Gustavo went on a business trip and has disappeared.
Casa Carmona: Rogelio returns and MentiRosa tells him that Ana Paula wants to stay a few days in Tuxtla. Ana Paula wants a few days to resolve matters about Miguel before returning to work. MentiRosa feigns affection for her and exits to meet up with Elena, leaving Rogelio and Ana Paula alone.
Rogelio: You look sad.
Ana Paula: It's about my brother.
Rogelio: Is that the only thing?
Ana Paula: Also... well, it's personal. (She fingers the shell necklace Gustavo gave her)
Rogelio: I see. What pain to be relating this to someone with no feelings. Or that's the last thing you said to me.
Ana Paula: You and I are very different. But that should not interfere with my work as a nurse.
Rogelio: Paula, truly, do you think me despicable?
Ana Paula: You could be very different if you wanted to.
Rogelio: I'm glad. (moving closer) I'm glad because I have a proposition better than you being my nurse.
Ana Paula: What?
Rogelio (removing his hat): Paula, marry me.
Ana Paula is muy impactada. Por supuesto.
Commercial Break leading with the promo for El Talismán.
Another Hospital: Gustavo is lying in bed, moaning. The doctor informs the man who found him that he isn't sure if Gustavo would make it because he's dehydrated; he's been without water for at least three days. He keeps calling for “Ana” but the other man doesn't know of any family. Gustavo apparently also doesn't have identity papers. That seems rather odd.
Casa Carmona: Ana Paula doesn't get it.
Ana Paula: I don't understand. How can I marry you when I don't love you? Or you me?
Rogelio: Don't be naïve. Do you think everyone marries for love?
Ana Paula: I will do so.
Rogelio: Paula, listen to me. Let's start over again.
Ana Paula: I will return to the hacienda to work for you. But how can you now think I could be your wife? I don't understand; I think it's absurd.
Rogelio: Don't be naïve. Do you think everyone marries for love?
Ana Paula: I will do so.
Rogelio: Paula, listen to me. Let's start over again.
Ana Paula: I will return to the hacienda to work for you. But how can you now think I could be your wife? I don't understand; I think it's absurd.
La Calle: MentiRosa walks with her friend Elena, talking about the proposal. She is hoping that Ana Paula accepts.
Casa Carmona: Now it's Rogelio who doesn't get it.
Rogelio: You truly won't accept my proposal?
Ana Paula: No. Our deal is only about work. As for marriage, I've said I'm not in love with you.
Rogelio: No, not necessarily. Neither would I say that is true of me.
Ana Paula: Therefore I don't understand.
Rogelio: Because this would be better than business.
Ana Paula: What would you win by marrying me? We are very different. Our worlds, too.
Rogelio: Yes, I know. But I like the way you are. Your laughter, your [need help here]
Ana Paula: Yes, yes, yes. But that's not enough for marriage.
Rogelio: For me, yes. (moves closer) You are a beautiful woman. A beautiful woman. You know that. (He strokes her hair) Don't worry. You just need to be my wife in name only. Of course there can't be intimacy between us. You'd provide companionship...I don't want you as my nurse, but as my wife. It's the one way I can demonstrate that I can have the woman I want at my side.
Ana Paula: Therefore you're doing this as a whim. [caprichio]
Rogelio: Yes. Yes, this is a whim that will get your brother out of jail and fix your family's lives.
Ana Paula: No. Our deal is only about work. As for marriage, I've said I'm not in love with you.
Rogelio: No, not necessarily. Neither would I say that is true of me.
Ana Paula: Therefore I don't understand.
Rogelio: Because this would be better than business.
Ana Paula: What would you win by marrying me? We are very different. Our worlds, too.
Rogelio: Yes, I know. But I like the way you are. Your laughter, your [need help here]
Ana Paula: Yes, yes, yes. But that's not enough for marriage.
Rogelio: For me, yes. (moves closer) You are a beautiful woman. A beautiful woman. You know that. (He strokes her hair) Don't worry. You just need to be my wife in name only. Of course there can't be intimacy between us. You'd provide companionship...I don't want you as my nurse, but as my wife. It's the one way I can demonstrate that I can have the woman I want at my side.
Ana Paula: Therefore you're doing this as a whim. [caprichio]
Rogelio: Yes. Yes, this is a whim that will get your brother out of jail and fix your family's lives.
Miguel's Hospital Room: Dani and he talk about the accident victims. The woman's widower comes in with the boxes containing the ashes saying this was Miguel's fault.
Casa Carmona: Now it is a matter of contracts.
Ana Paula: I suppose if I say no, I can't go back to work for you.
Rogelio: No, because one way or another you will pay what you owe me. Marry me or whatever suits you. You'd be married to me till-death-do-us-part because we'd be married in church –
Ana Paula: No, of course not. We'd have a civil ceremony. To marry without love in the church is unforgivable.
Rogelio: If it makes you feel better we could have a prenup.
Ana Paula: What's that?
Rogelio: A contract we both sign before getting married. For every month you pretend [fingir] to be my wife I will deposit money into an account independent of any salary as a nurse. I will guarantee your future and that of your family.
Ana Paula: And that's for you. What about me? I only have to pretend to be your wife?
Rogelio: Yes. Pretend. One year. One year. And for every year after that there will be an important allowance.
Ana Paula: I don't know, I don't know, and I don't understand. Why do you want to do this?
Rogelio: It's because I want a wife. My conditions [need help here]
Ana Paula: Therefore, look for someone more like yourself.
Rogelio: I have chosen her. And I have my reasons. But for you the lack of money is an important motive.
Ana Paula: I don't know –
Rogelio: Don't take too long deciding. (puts his hat back on) The offer won't be open forever.
Rogelio: No, because one way or another you will pay what you owe me. Marry me or whatever suits you. You'd be married to me till-death-do-us-part because we'd be married in church –
Ana Paula: No, of course not. We'd have a civil ceremony. To marry without love in the church is unforgivable.
Rogelio: If it makes you feel better we could have a prenup.
Ana Paula: What's that?
Rogelio: A contract we both sign before getting married. For every month you pretend [fingir] to be my wife I will deposit money into an account independent of any salary as a nurse. I will guarantee your future and that of your family.
Ana Paula: And that's for you. What about me? I only have to pretend to be your wife?
Rogelio: Yes. Pretend. One year. One year. And for every year after that there will be an important allowance.
Ana Paula: I don't know, I don't know, and I don't understand. Why do you want to do this?
Rogelio: It's because I want a wife. My conditions [need help here]
Ana Paula: Therefore, look for someone more like yourself.
Rogelio: I have chosen her. And I have my reasons. But for you the lack of money is an important motive.
Ana Paula: I don't know –
Rogelio: Don't take too long deciding. (puts his hat back on) The offer won't be open forever.
Commercial Break
Miguel's Hospital Room: MentiRosa visits Miguel. She exits to get coffee when Ana Paula arrives. Miguel feels the most guilty he ever did in his life. She tells him not to give up on Dani but withholds what happened with Rogelio.
David's office: Sin-thia arrives, interrupting the meeting between David and Rogelio. As in the previous scene with Vainessa, she tells Rogelio that David gave her the earrings. David makes a comment about how Sin-thia deserves everything. Rogelio tells her he wants to go shopping with her and she exits, thinking the gift is for Vainessa, whom she now is on her way to see. Rogelio asks David if he has escalated the indictment against Miguel. We do not hear his answer.
Hospital Desk: Ana Paula asks to speak to Mercedes, but is informed that she isn't there.
Casa Galvan: Federico and Esteban talk about the pending divorce. Federico always wanted to give Vainessa a brother, but it was not to be. He tells him he was a good son-in-law and if he needs any help to come to him. Don Federico is too good not to come to grief.
Miguel's Hospital Room: He's dressed and ready to leave. The detectives arrive and announce that he is under arrest.
La Calle: Sin-thia tells Vainessa that Rogelio is going to buy her a gift. Vainessa thinks it's going to be an engagement ring with a huge rock. They will not like what will really happen.
Casa Galvan: Elsa la Vaca talks to Rogelio about the condition under which Vainessa will marry him. The maid enters telling her she has a call and she excuses herself. He tells Bruno that he wants to marry ASAP. Vainessa and Sin-thia enter just in time to hear this and are thrilled.
Miguel's Hospital Room: The police cuff Miguel's hands behind his back and shove him down on the bed. Ana Paula implores them to be careful of Miguel's hand because of the operation. Much suspenseful music and muchos gritos.
Commercial Break
Casa Galvan: Vainessa is pleased with herself; Sin-thia think this is the greatest thing ever. Rogelio leads her on as Sin-thia and Bruno exit.
Jardin Galvan: Bruno and Sin-thia talk about this latest development. She tells him that no way will Rogelio sell any of the ranch. She is hoping that marriage will have a positive effect on Rogelio's personality. Bruno's phone rings and it's Ana Paula about Miguel.
Casa Galvan: Now Rogelio plays his game with Vainessa.
Rogelio: Are you capable of living with me? As I am. It's not the deal we started with.
Vanessa: Yes, but it's where we are.; we couldn't help it.
Rogelio: Yes, yes, we need to prove it to ourselves. (touches her cheek) Vanessa, I want you to think about it.
Vanessa: There is nothing to think about. Understand. I was unhappy with Esteban because I couldn't forget you. It was a nightmare because I couldn't love him. On the other hand, you – (moves in for the kiss. She's far more into it than he is, even as he touches her neck. She returns the touch, but then they separate) What's wrong?
Rogelio (with a flat affect she doesn't see but we do): Nothing. I'm enjoying – very much enjoying – this moment. (cupping her head)
Vanessa: Yes, but it's where we are.; we couldn't help it.
Rogelio: Yes, yes, we need to prove it to ourselves. (touches her cheek) Vanessa, I want you to think about it.
Vanessa: There is nothing to think about. Understand. I was unhappy with Esteban because I couldn't forget you. It was a nightmare because I couldn't love him. On the other hand, you – (moves in for the kiss. She's far more into it than he is, even as he touches her neck. She returns the touch, but then they separate) What's wrong?
Rogelio (with a flat affect she doesn't see but we do): Nothing. I'm enjoying – very much enjoying – this moment. (cupping her head)
They look at each other, each with their own hidden agendas.
Hospital: Bruno tells Ana Paula over the phone he will go in to help her; Sin-thia doesn't approve, as Ana Paula “abandoned” her brother. Ana Paula asks the police to be careful with Miguel because of the operation. Tia MentiRosa wails inappropriately. After he is led out Ana Paula tells Dani that Rogelio will help but only if she marries him. Dani can barely react as Tia MentiRosa regards Ana Paula out of the corner of her greedy eye.
Casa Galvan: The game enters its last round.
Vanessa (gleefully): I'm dying to tell my parents.
Rogelio: Don't do anything before you think about it well. Look, Vanessa, since I've been in the wheelchair, I can't have children. I'm sure that will factor into it.
Vanessa: Rogelio, if you're afraid –
Rogelio: I'm afraid of nothing. I'm just informing you.
Vanessa: My love, before I was very young and because of that I was afraid you'd be like this all your life. But now I'm different.
Rogelio: But this won't change.
Vanessa: I'm more mature now. I just know I want to be with you and nothing else is important.
Rogelio: What irony. For a long time I waited to hear these words from you and now I don't believe them.
Vanessa: What proof do I need to give you? Despite your breaking the contract with my father I want you.
Rogelio (kisses her forehead): As you wish. Make the plans and we'll see how things go.
Rogelio: Don't do anything before you think about it well. Look, Vanessa, since I've been in the wheelchair, I can't have children. I'm sure that will factor into it.
Vanessa: Rogelio, if you're afraid –
Rogelio: I'm afraid of nothing. I'm just informing you.
Vanessa: My love, before I was very young and because of that I was afraid you'd be like this all your life. But now I'm different.
Rogelio: But this won't change.
Vanessa: I'm more mature now. I just know I want to be with you and nothing else is important.
Rogelio: What irony. For a long time I waited to hear these words from you and now I don't believe them.
Vanessa: What proof do I need to give you? Despite your breaking the contract with my father I want you.
Rogelio (kisses her forehead): As you wish. Make the plans and we'll see how things go.
Suspenseful music as we get to....
Commercial Break leading with the promo for Don Francisco Presenta.
Hospital: Ana Paula and MentiRosa talk about Rogelio's proposal. MentiRosa reminds her that Rogelio will save her if she is married to him for a year. Dani reminds Tia MentiRosa that Ana Paula can't marry without love. Ana Paula says she can only love Gustavo. She won't make the decision without knowing what's happened to him.
Other Hospital: Gustavo is regaining consciousness, calling for Ana. The doctor presses for a phone number. Anyone's. He gives a number.
Casa Carmona: Bruno and Ana Paula enter. He explains that Miguel will have to describe the accident and he will do the beset he can. It will be long and expensive because between his fee, court costs, and reparations to the families of the deceased it will cost two million pesos.
La Carcel: Miguel is already in his uniform. He signs some documents and enters a cell to the wolf whistles of the other prisoners.
Other Hospital: The doctor calls Mercedes to tell her that Gustavo is in the hospital. He puts the phone to Gustavo's ear so he can hear Mercedes' voice.
Avances:
Caught between love and duty, Ana Paula finds out that Gustavo is alive.
Vocabulary
caprichio whim
finjir to pretend
finjir to pretend
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Take your time UA. Hope you feel better soon.
Permalink posted by 
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 10:53:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 10:53:00 AM EST
UA:
So sorry to hear you are not well. I hope you are fully recovered very soon.
Kind Regards,
ElnaJune
So sorry to hear you are not well. I hope you are fully recovered very soon.
Kind Regards,
ElnaJune
¡Que te sientes mejor!
Podía starts at 10PM EST tonight, due to the presidents state of the union address.
Podía starts at 10PM EST tonight, due to the presidents state of the union address.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 1:01:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 1:01:00 PM EST
Here on the west coast we have 2 hours of the show starting at 9. Feel better UA. I sympathize.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 1:57:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 1:57:00 PM EST
I hope you're soon feeling better, UA.
I'm somewhat confused about when they'll be broadcasting LQNPA tonight on the East Coast. Last night's broadcast claimed that tonight there would be a special two-hour presentation, but the State of the Union speech makes that unlikely. The Washington Post indicated that Univision would broadcast the State of the Union at 9 and LQNPA for one hour at 10. I'm not quite sure how to set my VCR (yes, I still use a VCR, not a DVR).
I'm somewhat confused about when they'll be broadcasting LQNPA tonight on the East Coast. Last night's broadcast claimed that tonight there would be a special two-hour presentation, but the State of the Union speech makes that unlikely. The Washington Post indicated that Univision would broadcast the State of the Union at 9 and LQNPA for one hour at 10. I'm not quite sure how to set my VCR (yes, I still use a VCR, not a DVR).
I know Miguel is not a very likeable character here, wishy-washy, etc. but I truly felt sorry for him landing in jail last night! How can he even defend himself without the use of his right hand?? Just hate David and Rohellio for allowing this to happen to him just to put Paula in a position to ask for assistance from R.
Feel better UA.
Novelera in AZ
Feel better UA.
Novelera in AZ
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:17:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:17:00 PM EST
My program grid still shows a two-hour presentation. I can handle two hours of this.
Recap is up. It's not my usual standard for this series but I hope it will do.
Recap is up. It's not my usual standard for this series but I hope it will do.
Awesome recap UA. So Rog has proposed a marriage of convenience to AP. Maybe this is the start of Rog changing. Of course, he has been this way for about seven years so it won't happen overnight. I still wonder what he is planning with Vainessa. He marries AP (if she accepts) and he keeps Vainessa on the side. Is that his plan?
What a horrible scene when the police came to arrest Miguel not caring that he just had surgery to reconnect his fingers.
That happy dance and singing from money hungry Rosaura was way over the top LOL.
Tonight's show is for two hours but I'm not sure what time it's coming on since it's also the State of the Union address from the President tonight as well.
What a horrible scene when the police came to arrest Miguel not caring that he just had surgery to reconnect his fingers.
That happy dance and singing from money hungry Rosaura was way over the top LOL.
Tonight's show is for two hours but I'm not sure what time it's coming on since it's also the State of the Union address from the President tonight as well.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:46:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:46:00 PM EST
It's a fine recap. I thought Rogelio was saying that he DIDN'T need to get married in church. Why would he care what God thinks? It's a marriage of convenience anyway. Looks like he's trying to get revenge on Vanessa. I can't imagine him caring enough to keep her on the side.
I know he's suppossed to be the galan but I'm thinking AP would still be better off with Gustavo, and Rogelio and Vanessa can both get redemmed at the end and spend their lives together. Or make each others lives hell. Either way is good for me.
The music is the best thing about this show. Besides Cinthia's abs of course. And the horsies.
Kelly
I know he's suppossed to be the galan but I'm thinking AP would still be better off with Gustavo, and Rogelio and Vanessa can both get redemmed at the end and spend their lives together. Or make each others lives hell. Either way is good for me.
The music is the best thing about this show. Besides Cinthia's abs of course. And the horsies.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:58:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 2:58:00 PM EST
Thank you so much UA for this great recap and the vocab. I hope you are feeling better. I wonder what the hell Rohell is up to. Is he going to snag the first woman that says yes? I wonder when he stared at her, and she asked him what was wrong, if he was seeing a resemblence to Ana Paula? Or maybe how different each woman is. I think this is his revenge on Vainessa.
Poor Miguel. Is it just me or when Miguel is in the prison cell, he runs into the Jeffe from LFDD? It looks like the same guy.
I'm glad Gus was saved, but I don't think Mercedes will let Ana Paula near him.
And the Tia. I can't wait for the anvil to hurl on her. She is the most obnoxious, avararious, soulless being I have ever seen. She would sell her own soul to the devil if she could get lots and lots of money. She is treating Ana Paula like the precious.
Poor Miguel. Is it just me or when Miguel is in the prison cell, he runs into the Jeffe from LFDD? It looks like the same guy.
I'm glad Gus was saved, but I don't think Mercedes will let Ana Paula near him.
And the Tia. I can't wait for the anvil to hurl on her. She is the most obnoxious, avararious, soulless being I have ever seen. She would sell her own soul to the devil if she could get lots and lots of money. She is treating Ana Paula like the precious.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 3:03:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 3:03:00 PM EST
Urban: I missed this so am especially appreciative of your wonderful recap. Thank you for doing this despite being ill. I hope you are feeling better now.
"Rosaura (as though she were reading pornography" and "MentiRosa does a victory dance and sings so badly this author wants to mute the TV" had me laughing out loud. Simply splendid.
I so appreciate the dialog translations. So, Rogelio is captivated but not in love. Ana is far from either.
I don't like Rogelio playing with Vainessa as a spider would a fly. A better revenge would have been to continue to ignore her and allow the wedding to speak for itself - to let Vainessa stew in regret and anger.
Can't wait until tonight.
Diana
"Rosaura (as though she were reading pornography" and "MentiRosa does a victory dance and sings so badly this author wants to mute the TV" had me laughing out loud. Simply splendid.
I so appreciate the dialog translations. So, Rogelio is captivated but not in love. Ana is far from either.
I don't like Rogelio playing with Vainessa as a spider would a fly. A better revenge would have been to continue to ignore her and allow the wedding to speak for itself - to let Vainessa stew in regret and anger.
Can't wait until tonight.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 3:23:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 3:23:00 PM EST
I definitely think that Rogelio is getting revenge on Vainessa. I also think that he sees Ana Paula as his redemption.
The way he got up from the wheelchair convinces me more and more that his paralysis is psychological. It was how he escaped from Vainessa in the first place, like Ronnie Cammereri in Moonstruck with actually losing part of his hand.
Tia MentiRosa's expression when he got in her face in that scene was priceless. She should be very afraid of him.
The way he got up from the wheelchair convinces me more and more that his paralysis is psychological. It was how he escaped from Vainessa in the first place, like Ronnie Cammereri in Moonstruck with actually losing part of his hand.
Tia MentiRosa's expression when he got in her face in that scene was priceless. She should be very afraid of him.
Thank you very much for this recap, UA, and I do hope you're feeling better. Thank you also for your dialogs, they are always helpful.
I think it's vile, vile, vile that David and Rogelio are heaping more upon poor Miguel by having David press bogus charges. But I'm not mistaken, but wouldn't Miguel go to jail regardless, because of the deaths of the victims? It seems like the wheels were turning against him because of that, even before Rogelio started interfering. I'm not sure how much impact the pressing charges is going to make (obviously some, otherwise Rogelio wouldn't want to do it), since the death of the victims seems to be the primary concern at the moment. I guess that Rogelio wants the charges pressed just to add that little "extra" that (he hopes) gets Ana Paula running to him all the faster.
I had missed some of the nuances of the proposal scene when I was able to see the episode with no CCs, so it was nice to see it finally with CCs and also to read this recap. It seems to me that Rogelio is smitten (but still conflicted and/or in denial about it). It also seemed to me that he started out just saying to Paula, "Marry me." If she had accepted at that point, I think he wouldn't have brought up the whole business deal thing, the "in name only" thing, or any of it. When she balked at the proposal, only then did he mention that it was in name only, don't worry, etc
I also think that he's going to enjoy marrying Paula, just to stick it to Bruno and any other man who said that Rogelio wasn't up to having a wife anymore (if you know what I mean). Especially Bruno, since Bruno's the one who "reminded" Rogelio that never again can he make a woman happy. But still, even with all of that, Rogelio is smitten with Ana Paula and that is his overriding reason for wanting to marry her. He may deny it to himself, but that's it. When she was at the hacienda, it brightened his days and he wants that back.
While I think he's not seriously considering Vainessa as a wife, he wants to see how this all plays out, what she says, how she reacts. He was stuck on that hacienda, stewing over her, for 7 years, and I guess he needs to get it all out of his system. Also note that he never actually "proposed" to her and is noncommittal. "Make the plans and we'll see how it goes" is what he says. Sneaky, sneaky!
UA, I also wonder if his paralysis is psychological. (This is not a spoiler, BTW!)
I think it's vile, vile, vile that David and Rogelio are heaping more upon poor Miguel by having David press bogus charges. But I'm not mistaken, but wouldn't Miguel go to jail regardless, because of the deaths of the victims? It seems like the wheels were turning against him because of that, even before Rogelio started interfering. I'm not sure how much impact the pressing charges is going to make (obviously some, otherwise Rogelio wouldn't want to do it), since the death of the victims seems to be the primary concern at the moment. I guess that Rogelio wants the charges pressed just to add that little "extra" that (he hopes) gets Ana Paula running to him all the faster.
I had missed some of the nuances of the proposal scene when I was able to see the episode with no CCs, so it was nice to see it finally with CCs and also to read this recap. It seems to me that Rogelio is smitten (but still conflicted and/or in denial about it). It also seemed to me that he started out just saying to Paula, "Marry me." If she had accepted at that point, I think he wouldn't have brought up the whole business deal thing, the "in name only" thing, or any of it. When she balked at the proposal, only then did he mention that it was in name only, don't worry, etc
I also think that he's going to enjoy marrying Paula, just to stick it to Bruno and any other man who said that Rogelio wasn't up to having a wife anymore (if you know what I mean). Especially Bruno, since Bruno's the one who "reminded" Rogelio that never again can he make a woman happy. But still, even with all of that, Rogelio is smitten with Ana Paula and that is his overriding reason for wanting to marry her. He may deny it to himself, but that's it. When she was at the hacienda, it brightened his days and he wants that back.
While I think he's not seriously considering Vainessa as a wife, he wants to see how this all plays out, what she says, how she reacts. He was stuck on that hacienda, stewing over her, for 7 years, and I guess he needs to get it all out of his system. Also note that he never actually "proposed" to her and is noncommittal. "Make the plans and we'll see how it goes" is what he says. Sneaky, sneaky!
UA, I also wonder if his paralysis is psychological. (This is not a spoiler, BTW!)
Feel better Urban! I didn't watch, so thank you for the recap. My EST programming also showed this on for two hours tonight starting at 9pm. Still unlikely to watch, but I am really enjoying the recaps!
UA, thanks for the recap. Appreciate the detail. Hope you're feeling better.
Maybe Rohellio will turn into a galan one day but he's pure evil right now and totally selfish. Ana Paula has given him some sense of happiness -- or maybe a desire to be happy again -- but he has no problems causing her pain.
I think Osvaldo Benavides is doing a great job as Miguel. So glad Gustavo doesn't have amnesia - I was afraid of that.
Maybe Rohellio will turn into a galan one day but he's pure evil right now and totally selfish. Ana Paula has given him some sense of happiness -- or maybe a desire to be happy again -- but he has no problems causing her pain.
I think Osvaldo Benavides is doing a great job as Miguel. So glad Gustavo doesn't have amnesia - I was afraid of that.
Thanks UA. I'm so sorry that you've been sick... I hope that you are feeling better. I think the recap is quite good actually.
Diana, I'm with you about the way Rogelio is treating Vanesa. Truthfully, I don't like the way he is treating any of the other characters, but the way he is treating Vanesa reminds me of Jerónimo in CME.
At the moment I can see no good reason to keep this guy alive.
Carlos
Diana, I'm with you about the way Rogelio is treating Vanesa. Truthfully, I don't like the way he is treating any of the other characters, but the way he is treating Vanesa reminds me of Jerónimo in CME.
At the moment I can see no good reason to keep this guy alive.
Carlos
It's obvious to me that Rogelio has it bad for Ana Paula... and that aint good for Bruno OR Vainessa. Elvira, I think you're dead right about how this will stick it to Bruno as well. This also gives Ana Paula a one-up on Vainessa. That's known as a Grand Slam Home Run.
Sin-thia won't like this one bit. One more person in the house is one more person who can find out about her Lade Chatterley action.
Finally, I think Tia MentiRosa will have hell to pay as well. I'm sure Rogelio could arrange for her to have medical appointments that will disclose that she is far from ill.
Sin-thia won't like this one bit. One more person in the house is one more person who can find out about her Lade Chatterley action.
Finally, I think Tia MentiRosa will have hell to pay as well. I'm sure Rogelio could arrange for her to have medical appointments that will disclose that she is far from ill.
When I checked the time for tonight's show on my television, it is listed for only one hour at ten o'clock after the State of the Union address. Check your listings for those who are watching.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:20:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:20:00 PM EST
"UA, I also wonder if his paralysis is psychological" I'm also starting to think that too. Especially since he still can feel sensations in his legs. It must be something pychological that he needs to overcome in order to get out of that chair. That's just a thought.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:23:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:23:00 PM EST
Urban, this was such a delicious recap, I am so sorry that you are sick, I hope you feel better soon.
I loved your description of Tia’s singing, I had the same reaction, ouch!
Madelaine-Yes, what is that varmint Rohell up to? I wondered all the same things you did. Poor Miguel, in with (I swear) the same bunch of prisoners on LFDD, I thought that when I saw them, too. And he is totally helpless with them (and apparently everything in life, including how to groom one's eyebrows, and how to stop driving and pull over to the side when you are tired, etc), unlike Antolin from LFDD who could take care of himself.
Is Rohell just a sadist? I still think he is like a crime boss. He has all these people beholden to him, he has all kinds of criminal connections (like David, who is clearly a criminal). He can put people in jail or get them out by pulling strings.
Rohells paralysis just might be gone now, I think he knows he can walk now and is laying low to get revenge on everyone.
I loved your description of Tia’s singing, I had the same reaction, ouch!
Madelaine-Yes, what is that varmint Rohell up to? I wondered all the same things you did. Poor Miguel, in with (I swear) the same bunch of prisoners on LFDD, I thought that when I saw them, too. And he is totally helpless with them (and apparently everything in life, including how to groom one's eyebrows, and how to stop driving and pull over to the side when you are tired, etc), unlike Antolin from LFDD who could take care of himself.
Is Rohell just a sadist? I still think he is like a crime boss. He has all these people beholden to him, he has all kinds of criminal connections (like David, who is clearly a criminal). He can put people in jail or get them out by pulling strings.
Rohells paralysis just might be gone now, I think he knows he can walk now and is laying low to get revenge on everyone.
It never occurred to me that Rogelio's paralysis could be psychological, just thought Ana Paula would fix him up with her PT.
Vengeance is a very destructive thing, but in this case I'm going to love Rogelio getting back at Vanesa. Of course it could lead to someones murder.
I hope Gustavo remembers what happened, but more likely AP, Daniela or Miguel will find Gustavo's stuff in capitulo next to last. Rosaura has to pay for her sins.
I look to an Amor Real ending, where the heroine falls in love with her husband
We are all going to go to bed very depressed when El Talisman comes on.
Vengeance is a very destructive thing, but in this case I'm going to love Rogelio getting back at Vanesa. Of course it could lead to someones murder.
I hope Gustavo remembers what happened, but more likely AP, Daniela or Miguel will find Gustavo's stuff in capitulo next to last. Rosaura has to pay for her sins.
I look to an Amor Real ending, where the heroine falls in love with her husband
We are all going to go to bed very depressed when El Talisman comes on.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:38:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 4:38:00 PM EST
Oh yes, Vainessa will not be happy when she finds out who Rogelio really wants to marry "ASAP" (as he was saying to Bruno when Vainessa and Sin overheard).
I struggle with why Rogelio wants the charges pressed against Miguel. I don't get it. It seems like Miguel is in enough hot water as it is. All Rogelio has to do is be the 'white knight' and solve the problems in exchange for marriage to Paula. Okay so maybe he wouldn't be a white knight for saving Miguel on those conditions . . .
Anyway, it seemed like it was David's idea to claim that Miguel was working off the clock, and Rogelio just went along with it and said it was a good idea. David is crooked enough on his own and wants to cover his company's butt. So Rogelio, douchebag that he is, tells Ana Paula that David "was" going to press charges, but that he (Rogelio) talked him out of it. This earns Rohell a little bit of hand porn from Ana Paula as she grabs his hand briefly in gratitude. So what's with the pressing the charges now? Is it so he can again claim that he "talked David out of it" or say that if she marries him, he can fix it all with David. I guess that's what it must be. It's mostly a bluff.
I still don't get it, though. IF Rohell is thinking enough ahead (which I guess he's not) he'd realize that IF he marries Ana Paula and IF she ends up caring for him and he gets a "happily ever after" with her, that IF she ever finds out about the douchebaggery with Miguel that it may undo all the "happily ever after" stuff he secretly hopes for?
Okay, never mind answering that. This is a telenovela! LOL!
Even though Rogelio stopped David from "helping" Miguel, Rohell could tell himself that David wouldn't ordinarily help out someone like Miguel (and he wouldn't, that's what David said) and that Rohell simply said to not do any extra favors. The pressing of false charges elevates everything to a new level. Unless, of course, no charges are ever pressed (or never really get anywhere) and are just a bluff only. Still pretty douchebaggy, though.
Sorry for being so long-winded; this has been on my mind for a while! LOL.
I struggle with why Rogelio wants the charges pressed against Miguel. I don't get it. It seems like Miguel is in enough hot water as it is. All Rogelio has to do is be the 'white knight' and solve the problems in exchange for marriage to Paula. Okay so maybe he wouldn't be a white knight for saving Miguel on those conditions . . .
Anyway, it seemed like it was David's idea to claim that Miguel was working off the clock, and Rogelio just went along with it and said it was a good idea. David is crooked enough on his own and wants to cover his company's butt. So Rogelio, douchebag that he is, tells Ana Paula that David "was" going to press charges, but that he (Rogelio) talked him out of it. This earns Rohell a little bit of hand porn from Ana Paula as she grabs his hand briefly in gratitude. So what's with the pressing the charges now? Is it so he can again claim that he "talked David out of it" or say that if she marries him, he can fix it all with David. I guess that's what it must be. It's mostly a bluff.
I still don't get it, though. IF Rohell is thinking enough ahead (which I guess he's not) he'd realize that IF he marries Ana Paula and IF she ends up caring for him and he gets a "happily ever after" with her, that IF she ever finds out about the douchebaggery with Miguel that it may undo all the "happily ever after" stuff he secretly hopes for?
Okay, never mind answering that. This is a telenovela! LOL!
Even though Rogelio stopped David from "helping" Miguel, Rohell could tell himself that David wouldn't ordinarily help out someone like Miguel (and he wouldn't, that's what David said) and that Rohell simply said to not do any extra favors. The pressing of false charges elevates everything to a new level. Unless, of course, no charges are ever pressed (or never really get anywhere) and are just a bluff only. Still pretty douchebaggy, though.
Sorry for being so long-winded; this has been on my mind for a while! LOL.
BTW, again I want to say that I don't give away any spoilers or "hints." Even though I have seen these episodes before (sans CCs) my Spanish listening comprehension is still iffy and often I am connecting the dots at the same time as everyone else! LOL.
We didn't get David's answer in this most recent episode, so we don't know for certain.
Until I saw the avances I thought that Mercedes would prevent Ana Paula from finding out about Gustavo. However, I think we all know that AP will end up with Rogelio so it will play differently from what I thought.
Until I saw the avances I thought that Mercedes would prevent Ana Paula from finding out about Gustavo. However, I think we all know that AP will end up with Rogelio so it will play differently from what I thought.
Thank you for the great recap UA, even from your sick bed it it fantastic- hope you feel better soon!
I imagine Rogelio wants Vanessa to get excited planning the wedding so he can bail on her at the last moment and let her be humiliated ,exactly like she did to him.
Emarie I totally agree with your Mob Boss comparison of Rogelio, he does seem like the godfather Don Corleone, keeping people in his back pockets, making them offers they cant refuse!
POOR Miguel I really felt his anguish last night, didnt big mouth Tia mention something to him about the bad things that happen to people in prison? what a witch.
Did anyone watch the novela INDIA last year ? I think David here looks alot like Bahuan, Maya's 1st love, even the necklace he wears.
I imagine Rogelio wants Vanessa to get excited planning the wedding so he can bail on her at the last moment and let her be humiliated ,exactly like she did to him.
Emarie I totally agree with your Mob Boss comparison of Rogelio, he does seem like the godfather Don Corleone, keeping people in his back pockets, making them offers they cant refuse!
POOR Miguel I really felt his anguish last night, didnt big mouth Tia mention something to him about the bad things that happen to people in prison? what a witch.
Did anyone watch the novela INDIA last year ? I think David here looks alot like Bahuan, Maya's 1st love, even the necklace he wears.
So Mercedes is not willing to hear any explanation from Ana Paula about Bruno and yet it looks like she is has a relationship with Ernesto who is married and now is working on a new relationship with Stevie?
I'm losing respect for her.
Carlos
I'm losing respect for her.
Carlos
Carlos, that is a good point about Mercedes.
What got me is that Mercedes hauled off and slapped AP right accross the face in public. You wouldn't see that in this country. Except on Jerry Springer.
What got me is that Mercedes hauled off and slapped AP right accross the face in public. You wouldn't see that in this country. Except on Jerry Springer.
I'm going to guess that Mercedes missed an opportunity to marry Ernesto, perhaps when he was in med school. Maybe her parents objected because he hadn't "made it" yet or maybe he knocked up the woman he's married to now. Either way I wonder how much of that she's holding against AP, who is younger.
If Chiapas is as backward socially as previously implied, I'm wondering whether Mercedes thinks she's past her prime. Or whether she thinks everyone else thinks that.
If Chiapas is as backward socially as previously implied, I'm wondering whether Mercedes thinks she's past her prime. Or whether she thinks everyone else thinks that.
UrbanA, Thanks for persevering with this even when you felt bad. I hope things have improved by now. I haven't read all of this but it is a fine recap . I can't seem to stay or go with this one, I feel wishy washy but last night I stayed on after recapping Familia and was pleased that it was calmer and less violent than it has been in the last week or so. I will finish reading this tonight before the show comes on here at 9:00 PM.
Carlos, I am with you on Mercedes being a hypocrite. She has no margin for faulting AnaPau and should at least listen to her. Maybe they will be friends later. I can't tell if Jorge gets top billing droit du seigneur with the lovely virgin of his choice or will the age appropriate galan recover and come to claim his love?
Carlos, I am with you on Mercedes being a hypocrite. She has no margin for faulting AnaPau and should at least listen to her. Maybe they will be friends later. I can't tell if Jorge gets top billing droit du seigneur with the lovely virgin of his choice or will the age appropriate galan recover and come to claim his love?
I think after what happened with La Esposa Virgen that Jorge will get the girl.
Not to mention that that's how Gothics play.
Not to mention that that's how Gothics play.
"I think after what happened with La Esposa Virgen that Jorge will get the girl."
That's my hope. God help me but I'm still on Team Rog.
That's my hope. God help me but I'm still on Team Rog.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:24:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:24:00 PM EST
Thanks for the Recap UA and I hope you are feeling better.
I am on pins and needles wondering what the schedule is tonight. My grid says SOTU address. *shrugs*
I felt so bad for Miguel last night!
I am on pins and needles wondering what the schedule is tonight. My grid says SOTU address. *shrugs*
I felt so bad for Miguel last night!
My schedule is from TV Guide and it says Podia is 2 hrs' worth and it starts at 9pm EDT --which is when the prez's speech is on. Something tells me it'll be on till midnight EDT. Manually set your recorders, guys.
UA: Thanks for sticking with us and coming through for all of us despite being sick. We all very much appreciate it! You hit all the high points and even some I'd missed, so tks x2.
I agree that RoHell is out to avenge his being stood up by Vainessa. I think he's chosen AP for two reasons: 1) he's not totally indifferent to her, and even misses how she brightened up his days at Hell Fuerte. I believe he's got the hots for her but is too proud/too unsure of himself to admit it; 2) he wants revenge for what Vainessa did and he's been thinking about getting the chance for the last seven long, lonely, bitter years. I bet he's going to "persuade" AP to marry him and then rub Vainessa's nose in it. He will get points with AP for it and he will pat himself on the back for getting even in such a brutal way with Vainessa. He willhave to pay for it in the long run according to TN rules if he is to really end up with Pau in the end.
I agree that RoHell is out to avenge his being stood up by Vainessa. I think he's chosen AP for two reasons: 1) he's not totally indifferent to her, and even misses how she brightened up his days at Hell Fuerte. I believe he's got the hots for her but is too proud/too unsure of himself to admit it; 2) he wants revenge for what Vainessa did and he's been thinking about getting the chance for the last seven long, lonely, bitter years. I bet he's going to "persuade" AP to marry him and then rub Vainessa's nose in it. He will get points with AP for it and he will pat himself on the back for getting even in such a brutal way with Vainessa. He willhave to pay for it in the long run according to TN rules if he is to really end up with Pau in the end.
He'd still be underestimating AP if he thinks she'd be impressed with a revenge scheme. I think she'd be nnoyed at being used. I would be. But then I dress myself without the help of little birds. And someone needs to tell thsoe brdies that she's not 15 anymore. She looks cute and all, but really. A couple more inches on the skirts wouldn't hurt.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:11:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:11:00 PM EST
He will pay for it with redemption but it will be a hard road. AP will have to find out about his deceptions, reject him (after the ceremony, por supuesto), and a few other things. I'm sure Sin-thia will have a role in that as well.
Article about Univision's English captions: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/natpe-univision-primetime-english-translations-284442
A quick heads up. I just turned to Univision to see if LQNPA is airing and it's on now. I guess Uni isn't showing the State of The Union address after all.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9:12:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9:12:00 PM EST
Am I the only one bothered that Univision decided to go with the TN over the state of the union address?
No Sara. I find it quite odd. They usually show it. How strange that they not only chose NOT to show it, but to put on 2 hours of LQNPA. If they were going to go into the 10-11 hour, then why not just show 1 hour of LQNPA AFTER the SOTU?
It could be a response to viewer demand. Perhaps the audience prefers to hear it in English and will catch one or the other on DVR.
I think it's purely about competition/ratings. Telefutura never shows the SOTU and tonight is the premier episode of Relacciones Peligrosas (wtih Sandra E.) at 10pm. I think Uni is trying to keep the people who would switch over from LQNPA when it ends at 10 to watch the new Telemundo show. And if the SOTU was on, they would probably have even more people switching to Telefutura tonight to watch their 9 pm show and sticking around fot the new 10pm show, meaning they wouldn't come back to watch LQNPA at 10pm.
Univision owns Telefutura, but I get your point. They want to stay way ahead of Telemundo and they will continue to do so as long as Mexicans are the majority of US Hispanics.
And as long as they can get the Televissa programs with the strongest stars.
And as long as they can get the Televissa programs with the strongest stars.
What Rogelio told Ana Paula was that he liked "su manera de ser" - her way of being.
Thanks UA! So sorry you were so ill.
Audrey
Thanks UA! So sorry you were so ill.
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 11:01:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 11:01:00 PM EST
Thanks. I had the worst acid stomach of my life and it didn't entirely go away until about dinner time today.
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