Monday, January 09, 2012
CME Bonus post by Anita - THE DEVOLUTION* OF DR. ALVARO NESME
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Isn't it interesting how this somewhat minor character caused such a ruckus amongst our group? Although I never had a "wow" moment while watching Odiseo Bichir act, it must be a testament to his talent and reprehensible representation of the character that he consistently got our knickers in such a twist.
"Dr. HaHaYouAreNotAWidow" will always be my favorite.
By the way, Odiseo and Yolanda are actually together in real life.
Jarocha
Many thanks to Anita (NOK) and Sylvia. How sweet it is!
That said, I also admit to taking devilish delight in ridiculing him. I almost feel bad about that... yeah... sure I do.
Carlos
Thanks Anita. Just makes me keep missing this TN and group still.
What a hoot!
My favorite snarky comment was Mike's "no doubt he's made of seamless modern external cladding material,which includes the cheap toupee, no doubt a cover for a USB port. They plug him in while he floats in his nutrient tank at night."
They made the character so easy to hate—medical murder, rape, drunkeness, kipnapping, and straight-up shoot-'im-in-the-head murder—Alvaro became the poster child for demon drink.
My biggest complaint about Alvaro was the shallow one, I wanted him to do something about the black toupee to make it match the grizzled grey sideburns! Many of us women have to undertake similar efforts for the sake of our fellow man. Hahahaha. I thought the hair thing was just a TN costuming problem until I saw a published photo of Odiseo (off the set) with the same bad rug.
Glad to know he is nice to Yolanda in real life. She is just great.
EJ
Oh right Carlos, I can tell you feel so bad for poor Nesme. We all do. He really was a pathetic sort of man. Completely a slave to his urgings, a nasty bully when he sensed he might be in a position of power, and a whiny wimp when things weren't going his way.
Gruesome memory lane, LOL! Good one JudyB.
Cute! Thanks, Anita!
Word verification: heness That seems redundant somehow.
Kelly
Thank you, Sylvia, for your collaboration.
It was interesting to see the very loud verbal reaction that his behavior provoked in us, while not really having a huge impact on the main characters or the main story line.
True, he messed up in the attempt to save Rafael to get the ball rolling, but Rafael was at death's door anyway. During the rest of the telenovela, he wreaked havoc on characters in side plots.
I wondered how Odiseo came to the attention of casting--his character wasn't in La Mentira. Although it probably had nada que ver with it, I saw Silvia's 2008 movie, Amor Letra Por Letra and there he was, in a minor part.
However, according to IMDB, he's been in a lot of things, beginning around 1977 (I guess that's when he could go toupeeless).
Anita
Dr. Abracadaver was penned by Julia in her comment on Sep 24. She is the mistress of all things macabre, no?
Anita
If I may offer an honorific in return, Anita, Listmistress and Emporium Empress.
"Dr. AllVile Nasty sits in his new office, self-medicating as usual. His feet are on the desk with the bottoms aimed at us, which is offensive and insulting in some cultures. Since it’s Nesme, though, the rudeness of his soles can’t remotely compare to the repulsiveness of his soul, so ni modo. He mutters to himself that he knows Karina has always preferred Lázaro, but he will never have her. Never. He crushes his glass in his hand (also ni modo; it was just for show as he was drinking straight from the bottle) and says she’ll be dead before he’ll let her be with another."
This one was a little harder to find.
Anita
They are much preferrable to being Wardrobe Mistress for Renata-as-a-Sponge-Bob-fashion-statement.
Anita
My word ver: bodisgo--hmmm, as in where did that dratted piece of pearl-studded velvet go? or is it Mme. Wardrobe Mistress looking for her missing actors.
También muchas gracias.
Jarocha, thanks again for the
inside tip on the private lives of our entertainers.
Some of you may have seen Fina (Rocio B.) on Don Francisco
tonight. Apparently, she was ill for 4 years a while back but has made a full recovery; I did not get the illness. Furthermore, her former husband robbed her blind several years ago, and she lost everything. He also alienated
her son for about 5 years. Her entire family has always been very hardworking. All were greatly affected by this unfortunate circumstance. She managed to overcome both situations and is now doing very well. I know she was thrilled to receive the best actress Antagonista award for
her efforts. She also has had a long career as a singer. You all probably know all this.
Thanks again for all the fun.
Adios
You put SO MUCH work into this, with Sylvia's help. You guys are both increible.
Now, when's El Talisman starting? Has anyone heard anything?
Rosemary la Otra
I still do not see any scheduling for El Talisman. Come on Univision! Throw us a bone here.
Floridia, thank you for the info on Rocio. I did not know any of that stuff. I've scheduled the program to record but it will not be on for another 20 minutes here on the west coast. I watched the Premios that you referenced. I was quite miffed at the time because Azela Robinson (Fedra) from Llena did not win, however Rocio was very gracious in her speech. Now that I've seen Rocio in CME I can understand why she won, but it was by no means a blow out. Actually, I still prefer Azela's performance, but I'm not as peeved about her losing.
And wow, I didn't know he and Yolanda were together in real life. Gah, I haven't watched her in anything since 1993, when she was drooling over my Juan del Diablo. Oh and she appears in La que no podia amar too, she's Doc Cutberto's wife!
Fun fact #1: In La que no podia amar, both she and Javier Ruan (Don Maximo) make an appearance. In Corazon Salvaje, she was held by force in a brothel and raped by non other than...Don Maximo :D.
Fun fact #2: Both Yolanda and Odiseo Bichir played characters who fell in love with characters called Juan, played by the great Eduardo Palomo, may he rest in peace. Yolanda, as mentioned earlier, was in love with his Juan del Diablo and Odiseo was also in love with a character called Juan, played by the same actor, except that Juan was a transvestite :D :D :D.
Yes we get another excuse to hang out together one more time. I had to jump into cold, deep water tonight taking on a two hour episode of Una Familia so I am fairly numb.
Thanks to Alexandra, Jarocha and others for filling in real life actor stories that are so sweet.
I did see Rocio Banquells on Don Fernando tonight. I though she said she had an allergic reaction to taking steroids for a lung condition. My Mom had bad and lasting side effects from taking steroids to open her air passages. Rocio is very lucky she can sing again. What a lovely voice. I still miss Cristina! DF did a little better tonight than he did with the La Fuerza del Destino cast.
Word verification: refressu. Yes, it will be refreshing -- when it STARTS.
It's quite a collection. A very creative group of recappers and commenters, no? I bet the actor himself would get a big kick out of the list. Thanks so much for compiling and sharing.
Audrey
Blue Lass, still no El Talisman on any program schedule that I can find. I just checked TV Guide online up through Jan 24.
Alexandra--so glad you stopped by to tell us about all these coincidentals.
Blue Lass--Cheryl came up with your favorite Nesmeisms in her recap, "Lazaro and Carlos argue one more time that Matilde knows, Kari is going to know any minute now that Dr. HaHaYouAreNotAWidow is not Dr. DustToDustAshesToAshes, but Lazaro still thinks she can’t stand knowing the truth. However, his resolve is more of a dissolve, no one else is backing his pointless gesture of protecting her from the truth."
Our recappers are master wordsmiths.
Anita
I got to say I didn't object to the outfit but no way am I cutting off my corduroys, and its winter too? uhn-uhn.
What happens now? :(
However, our own Cheryl recapped Una Familia Con Suerte last night. I'm reading her recap right now and it is helping to ease the pain.
It was such a long TN - wish they'd bring them back!
I too preferred Fedra's villain.
Blue Lass,
I loved MEPS - far better than CME;
I am recording it now because I only watched the last 3 or 4 months of it. I am concentrating
on the scenes between Silvia and Fernando and other scenes portrayed by actors I especially like.
Lucero was an excellent and beautiful villain. Other easy on
the eye villains are Sergio Sendel and Robert Palazuelos. Both are excellent actors. The latter plays
a classic macho who treats women
like trash. He has an extremely
brutal scene near the end; I am fascinated by him because he is
cute and I think his acting is terrific. One of the reasons I couldn't watch the CME villains is that they were unattractive to me.
In real life, I couldn't tolerate these bad guys, but in a novela,
if I think they are cute, I have no problem watching (shallow). I think you were watching LVO where we had the mesmerizing villains of Fabian Robles and Julio Aleman.
Another superb actor is the guy who plays FC's friend; he's really Mexican, but he puts on a phony bad Mexican accent because he is supposedly from the United States.
Also, the Caray recaps are right there waiting for you ready made.
Also enjoyed reading how you ended up in Maine. I'm originially from Boston - went to camp in Maine.
Jarocha, I sent you an email;
don't know if you still use that one.
All the best to all,
Unfortunately, the programmable aspect of my VCR seems to have given up the ghost. I think my only option right now is to record LQNPA -- assuming I can still just turn it on and record. Yeah, I fall asleep before ten...remember, the sun goes down right after lunch around here. ;}
The rest of the men were twisted by circumstances or choice, like Antonio and Ezekiel or our poor Dr. Nesme.
We had only had one truly evil woman and that was Fina/Pepa, but unfortunately her evilness rubbed off on her biological daughter, Roberta.
So I'm not sure which villains in CME you couldn't watch.
Where did everyone go??? I wanted to boast that my handcrafted, one-of-a-kind CME telenovela beanie arrived from our one and only Emilia. Does it transfer? I may need it for El Talisman.
Anita
I'm getting into Una familia con suerte -- lots of cute characters and quite amusing comedy bits -- but I miss our little community.
I too received my beautiful beanie in today's mail. ¡Guau! Emilia you've been crocheting up a storm -- one for Anita & one for me all in one day's mail. Gracias. It is so lovely. I'm going to put it on now and imagine myself back in our little CE community.
Güera from Syra - #1 - cuse
Floridia, I think you are talking about the actor Mario Ivan Martinez who played Esteve in MEPS. He is a super talented guy with an amazing voice. Apparently he is highly respected in live theater and has received numerous awards for his talent. I was in Guanajuato several years ago at the Festival Cervantino and tried to get tickets to his performances (for children) but alas, they were sold out. Not that I would have understood much anyway.
As for El Talisman, it is still coming "Muy Pronto". Hmmmph, how soon is Muy Pronto anyway? I just checked TV guide online and as of Thursday Jan 26 Familia is still on for 2 hours and no El Talisman to be seen.
(re-posted from Una familia)
When I turned the TV on to set a tape for tonight -- there was the afternoon TN Ni sin ti ni contigo. First I was mesmerized by a pair of unforgettable eyes -- it was Marissa from Tontas. Then the scene switched and there was (be still my heart) Juan Querendon AND, standing next to him a young woman in ..... the PEAR ROBE.
Guera
Güera and Mary--have you checked out the Google+ site Mike set up (or someone did)? Mary-your recipes are there. I finally figured out how to post comments.
Anita
As I mentioned, I am shallow.
If I think a bad guy or
gal of any degree of involvement in treacherous deeds in a novela is physically unattractive, I do not like to watch them perform
their dastardly deeds; there's nothing good to watch.
Examples:
Fina - do not like her looks; hated her personality; did not
enjoy watching her;
Blanca - same thing with her -
even worse because she was so
loving and caring in MP;
Nesme - couldn't stand his looks or his character or the brutal acts he committed
Augustin - not crazy about his looks; did not enjoy his psychotic moments.
In contrast, I could watch Lucero as a villain because she is so beautiful (IMO);
Similarly, I can watch Fabian Robles as a villain because
he is very cute and he plays
a bad guy so masterfully;
I am fascinated to watch Julio Alemán as a villain because he is
brilliant in any role he plays.
I could watch Colunga as a villain,
and I could watch George Clooney as a villain. I would prefer however, if the protagonists
were equally good looking.
Sylvia,
Yes; he's the one. I had googled him last year when watching the show. His performance was terrific
and most amusing.
1. From my own Google+ page, I created a circle and named it "Caray"
2. I dragged all of you (who are on Google+) into the circle, and also the "La Plaza de Caray" page.
3. I opened the Comment form at the top of my page.
4. Just below and to the left of the comment block was a green rectangle labeled "Public". I clicked on the "x" to the right of the word "Public" in the green rectangle. Then clicked on my "Caray" circle, which created a blue rectangle labeled "Caray" below the Comment block
5. Typed my "OK, this is a test..." comment and clicked "Share". Then checked the "La Plaza" page and there it was. It should also show up on your own Google+ pages.
Problems, holler.
La Dona Emilia and I are off for her birthday weekend, a couple of days in Manteo, NC. Nice quiet, small place on the Albemarle Sound.
Is this going to be a Beanie-free weekend?
Emilia--a very Happy Birthday to you. Hope the weather cooperates, but walks on the beach in January can be very special.
Anita
Most of CarayCaray like good-looking Sergio Sendel and he always seems to be playing someone with a bad streak. Which tn was it that he was always throwing cell phones? (One I didn't watch.)
Anita
That was Destilando Amor;
SS destroyed a number of phones -was often in a rage when things did not go along with his plans.
I loved that novela - just finished watching it about a month ago; it had been shown a few years earlier but was repeated at 1:00 AM. I recorded it and watched at my leisure - really enjoying my DVR. I record all of the novelas
I watch. The DA theme song is also beautiful. In this novela, we learned all about tequila production and the agave plant instead of wine; almost everyone
in the novela - male and female - drank tequila freely.
SS played the greedy, unscrupulous, womanizing cousin of
the protagonist, Eduardo Yanez...
two 6'4" handsome and charming hombres. While I like Juan Soler,
for me, he pales in comparison to these two guys.
I liked the type of villain SS played - IMO far more sophisticated; he was not a psycho killer - just a person who manipulated and cheated anyone in his way to accumulating wealth and power.
I much prefer this to an Augustin,
a Fina, or the gal in TDA...too far over the top for me.
It wasn't until he met Renata that his obsessive, single-minded objective--possession at any price--began. I'm reminded of Rosendo Gavilan in STuD, who was content with stealing from the absent patron and abusing his off-and-on lover--until he met Valentina. Then he kinda went crazy trying to possess her and keeping Jose Miguel away from her.
I suppose, but Aug. started getting progressively loopy and psychotic as time wore on.
Re Rosendo - I suppose similar, but there again not at all attractive to me, so didn't like looking at him to begin with.
And of course Ivana was over the top, so I couldn't stand watching
her either.
There is a very handsome egoistic womanizer on Ni contigo whom I enjoy watching although he is extremely bad news. He had a minor role in Mi Pecado
as the boyfriend of the blonde antagonista, Altair Jarabo.
He didn't impress me much in that novela, but he is very charming in this one... Ricardo Franco,
worth checking out.
I'll check out Ricardo Franco.
Speaking of galans now, I've been comforting myself, waiting for El Talisman to begin, by watching the Mexican version of Montecristo on-line. It's a 2006 Silvia Navarro vehicle (someone on CarayCaray suggested it). Her galan in this one is Diego Olivera (Padre Juan of TDA). His hair is about the same length as it was in TDA, but when he puts a black bandana around it, he looks like an FC Junior.
Anita
We all noticed Altair Jarabo's boyfriend when the camera first panned across him at a party in Mi Pecado. He was very nice looking then, so I'm glad he's getting bigger roles.
Anita
I'm quite hopeless at this stuff.
Güera
Güera
I'll check this site once/day.
If you get a chance to check out Contigo, let me know.
In a nutshell, Sabine M. is playing a widow in her first role as a protagonist. I've always thought she is very beautiful.
I missed at least 2 weeks, so don't know exactly how it happened, but she had an affair with Jose Carlos (Ricardo Franco).
Shortly thereafter, she learns that he is a total womanizing phony
and that her daughter is madly in love with him. Undaunted, he takes advantage of the daughter whenever he can ; the mother was just forced
to tell her daughter about her liaison with the mujeriego.
The daughter moved out and is now living with Octavio, a male friend, of her mother and his son.
Sabine aka Leonor has her own dress designing emporium; one of her designers is Nicole whom Jose Carlos is intently pursuing while
sleeping around.
Nicole's mother owns the boarding house where many of the characters reside. Her husband recently died of a heart attack; there is a budding romance between her and one of the boarders, but there is also another widow living there, the cook, and she now thinks she likes the same guy, although there are rules that there are to be no couples in the pension. Everything must be above board - no hanky panky, and so far there has been none.
Another main romance is between Julia(Alexandra Rossaldo) and Iker (Erik Elias). Iker loved Julia,
but she was planning to marry Octavio because of her hidden past;
spitefully Iker decides to marry
Fabiola and quickly goes off on a honeymoon. When he returns, he finds out that Julia called off the wedding. His wife wants to hang on to him and is now conniving to keep him.
Leonor will ultimately find true love.
Nicole will eventually end up with Eduardo Santamarina who very cleverly and humorously plays a blindman to whom many girls are attracted.
There are a number of romances, but all in all, it is light and pleasant and no psycho killers.
The father of Jose Carlos, Iker and Isabella has been drugging his wife to go out gambling. Isabella
is rich but has taken on another identity pretending she is rather poor. She is also a Kleptomaniac; she steals when she gets upset.
Right now she thinks she loves ES.
I was thinking of Augustin of CME again while doing dishes. Before Rafael arrived to provide a little competition to the wine business, Augustin was IT--biggest employer around, smooth operator in and around Ensenada, respected and powerful. He thought this little upstart pipsqueak would be easily taken care of--and Fina did the job for him. Unfortunately for him, Jeronimo walks into Augustin's territory.
Meanwhile, as we (meaning CarayCaray commenters) determined, when he liked or wanted something, it was to posses it and use it for his own pleasure. Renata was going to be the symbol of his new wine, so he HAD to have her. Of course his behavior became more bizarre, the more she kept her distance.
Güera--
Google+ has some quirks not self-evident, while trying hard to be like Facebook. Try entering Mike's name and see what you get.
Anita
re: LPdC (otherwise known as La Plaza de Caray). Do you manually have to remove those "other" postings that pop up (a la skeletons made out of paper)?
Can you remove one of Juan's interview links?
Anita
word ver: messi (as in all things having to do with children and fingerpaints AND things electronic)
Robey
I think THIS is a beanie moment.
Robey
As Agustin Dunant would say, "Zarpemos!"
Manteo was lovely, BTW, and we found a great BBQ place in Currituck. Cold by VA/NC standards, but likely tropical by ME standards. ;-)
We used to go to Kill Devil Hills every summer when I was growing up in VA. I miss it. The beaches in Maine are very beautiful, but...
With Ni contigo, RF came on screen within the first few minutes. You are so right....he is a stunner AND I believe, matured nicely since Mi Pecado days. Doesn't look like just a pretty boy anymore.
I see we have posted the recapping crew for El Talisman. Only a few more days to wait for their wordsmithing.
Hope to see you all from time to time on Mike's La Plaza de Caray.
Anita
Yes, I have noticed Augustín
and usually move past him quickly; he has a negative role in that novela as well. He's from Spain and apparently an excellent singer.
Glad you got to see RF; he has the perfect face and intriguing, deceptive eyes for the role he is playing. Perhaps he'll be ready for prime time soon.
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