Tuesday, February 21, 2012
El Talismán #15 Mon 2/20/12 You Are Not the Boss of Me!
You’re not the boss of Me Dad!
El Alcatraz in front of the obvious Chevy product placements.
As you are aware, last week, Don G ordered his son to return the cars. Antonio told Don G that he wasn’t going to return a damn thing because of the letter he found from his mother. Don G told Antonio, he can shove that letter, because rock beats scissors, scissors covers paper, a will trumps a letter. He informs his son that the incestuous duo will be left nada, zilch, nothing, zip…
The Beauty Salon
After paying top price for a perfectly good hair do, Elvira decides to make it a hair don’t when she puts that stupid red hair band in it. Elvira doesn’t know if she wants to meet with Renato. His accomplice, his girlfriend, encourages her to meet him by saying it’s a public place. There’s no harm. Elvira agrees that she will see him.
You’re not the boss of me Renato!
Mr. Renato asks Tracy not to talk about him to Elvira. She agrees. Worst friend ever award.
Back at El Alcatraz in front of the obvious Chevy product placements.
Antonio and his father continue to have the will versus letter debate.
A. Of course my mama left us something.
DG. Prove it, but in the meanwhile, you’d best get these cars off my property.
Las Jailbait approaches the two men. They want to know why the cars have to go back. Their mother said that DG was going to buy them cars anyway. They don’t care who buys the cars. DG says that no one does anything without consulting him because he’s the boss of the family. They’ll get a car when Don G wants them to have a car. Antonio tries to go after his father when he turns to leave, but Las Jailbait stops their father and tells him it ain’t worth it. He should talk to his father when he’s calm. Anotonio agrees. But he’s pissed. He looks into the camera and thinks: I will have to eliminate him.
Los Angeles 107.5 Radio StationTwo DJs discuss how Marianna has been missing for years. They give a description of her.
The Beauty SalonAntonio calls Elvira and demands to see her right away. Elvira wonders if he knows that Camila is going to work at El Talisman.
You’re Not the Boss of Me, Mr. Smith!The Only Hotel Inn-Fresno? (I don’t know…the room looked pretty classy, except for the curtains. Could we be at The Only Otra Hotel Inn-Fresno?)
Camila is sitting on the bed recalling her encounter with “Marianna” in her head. Afterwards, she tells herself that Genoveva is right. Mr. Smith won’t make her work there.
El Talisman
Pedro is losing business because Don G is spreading rumors about his seeds. Pedro is frustrated and hangs up the phone on a client. One of the guys (I still don’t know which is which) basically tells him that he’s not gonna convince the clients that the grain is good by hanging up on them. Pedro agrees.
At Some Restaurant
Camila tells her boss that she can’t work at El Talisman because Pedro’s wife won’t let her on the property. The boss wants to know why no one in Fresno wants to work with Camila.
El Alcatraz
Don G wants to know how Antonio found out about his inheritance. Valentin says that he doesn’t know but suggests that Don G speak to Bridgette. Bridgette knows a lot of secrets and it’s not convenient, says Don G.
Back at Some RestaurantCamila continues to try to explain to her boss that she can’t work at El Talisman because “Marianna” doesn’t want her on the property. Mr. Smith tells her that if she doesn’t work at El Talisman, she doesn’t work for him at all. Camila looks worried.
Mustang Ranch-Fresno (My favorite place)
Bridgette and Doris are sitting in the garden having nice quiet afternoon tea (cuz that’s what all hookers do in their spare time). While displaying her thigh-highs and half of her behind to the world, Bridgette tells Doris that it will be very dangerous to make love to her father-in-law OR it will be very dangerous to make her father-in-law love her. Doris says that she has no choice. Antonio will eventually divorce her for Camila. She has to be prepared for that.
Back at Some RestaurantYou’re fired if you don’t work at El Talisman. Conversation over.
El AlcatrazThe new contractor tells Genoveva that Antonio wants Camila’s address in Davis. They don’t know that they are being observed by Don G and Valentin. They are temporarily deaf and unable to detect two men, who are not whispering and approaching on two horses. Don G believes that Camila is behind this and they will have to watch her more closely.
Pre-arranged meeting place:Antonio tells Elvira that he wants to eliminate his father without killing him. He hands Elvira some capsules to feed to Don G.
The Only Hotel Inn-Fresno (I’m sure this time. Armando hasn’t showered or left the room in a week, so that’s how I can tell).
While this brother and sister stand a respectable distance from one another, Camila informs Armando that the family will have to leave Fresno. Pedro is married, his wife thinks she’s flirting with him and won’t let her on the property.
Pre-arranged meeting place:Elvira agrees to give Don G the capsules little by little, but she wants more money. Antonio wants to know how soon she can start. Elvira says that by tomorrow Don G going to want to be with her. I don’t think she’s a match for the pros at the Mustang ranch unless there’s something we haven’t been told about her.
Back at the tacky room in The Only Hotel Inn-FresnoCamila is sitting on the bed and her brother is still standing at a respectable distance apart from her. There is definitely no hanky panky going on between these two. When it sinks down that Pedro is married, Armando rushes towards the door…he wants to kick some Pedro a$$ for playing with his sister.
Only then, in order to prevent her brother from doing anything rash, does Camila touch her brother. Other siblings (who shall remain nameless) on this can learn from them. Armando tells his sister that every time the family moves forward, they fall back.
El Alcatraz
Las Jailbait are sitting with the nanny, Alberta. They don’t understand why Don G won’t let them keep the cars. They’ve told all of their friends that they were getting cars. Oh well, Brunette Jailbait (Fabiola) wonders why she hasn’t received a call from Armando. Her sister teases her about being love.
Pre-arranged meeting place:Elvira wants to know how many doses she can give Don G without killing him. Antonio repeats that he doesn’t want his father to die. He just wants him to suffer. Antonio tells Elvira that he has to go home and deal with Las Jailbait. Elvira thinks this is a great opportunity for Armando to move in on the girls. She crazy because Antonio seems to hate everybody except his “las adoro” and he will kill Armando, his momma and their dog if anybody hurts them. Then Elvira tells him that Camila is working and living on El Talisman. Antonio tries to look shocked, but he just ends up looking “as sexy as hell” in those oversized glasses. Sorry, my clock is ticking and looking at him is not helping the situation.
El TalismanLulu calls Pedro and tells him that Don G is still after him. She will be over later on that night to explain it more to him. He agrees. Pedro is an idiot.
Pre-arranged meeting place
OK, for the love of all that is good…can we please end this conversation? Drug Dad. Got it. Camila is moving in with Pedro. Got it. The only good thing about this endless scene is that Antonio is in it and he’s been practicing his sexy poses in different spots. Now, if only he were shirtless. Elvira assures him that in the end Camila will end up with him and not with Pedro.
Mr. Renato’s?Tracy is listening to that crappy song and fantasizes about working for Epinoza Paz.
The Only Hotel Inn-Fresno
Elvira walks into the room and sees her son packing. He still has not groomed himself. He explains that they are leaving because Pedro’s wife said Camila can’t work at El Talisman.
El AlcatrazBlonde Jailbait hugs her father. He explains that he not returning those cars under any circumstances. His daughters thank him, but tell him that they would rather him return the cars than upset gramps. His phone rings. Elvira’ calling to tell him that Camila’s not going to work at the El Talisman because Pedro’s wife won’t let her. Antonio says that strange because she’s disappeared. He says he’ll call her later.
Mustang Ranch-FresnoDon G is confronting Bridgette. He wants to know why she blabbed to Antonio about his inheritance. I have a question. Why would you go to a hooker to find out about your wife’s will? Oh, I forgot, the Mustang Ranch provides legal assistance as well as tax advice. Those hookers multi-task. Anyway, she vehemently denies it.
El Talisman
With the help of Alberta, Lulu picks out a dress for her meeting with Pedro. Antonio throws open the door and tells the maid to get out. He needs to talk to his sister. Lulu tells her brother that he should have knocked because she may have been naked. Antonio closes the door so the two of them can be alone. Ummmmm she had a little sparkle in her eyes when she said it. He asks her what she had to do with Camila thinking that she spoke with Pedro’s wife.
Mustang Ranch-Fresno
Bridgette and Don G are arguing so loud that Doris/Catherine hears the commotion and hurries downstairs without her mask on. She yells “what’s going on!”
El Alcatraz-Lulu’s Bedroom
The incestuous duo are now all alone in Lulu’s bedroom. Mood music is playing and her clothes are strewn all over the room. OK, the mood music part is a lie, but the rest is the honest truth. At first Lulu denies having anything to do with Camila meeting fake Marianna. Finally she tells him the truth. It was her. Antonio, grabs his sister by her hair, pulls her closer and appears to stop short of giving her the most passionate kiss off her life. If you don’t believe me, roll the tape. She puckered her lips and looked down at his. Are these two actors only children? I don’t think they know what the appropriate space is between siblings of the opposite sex.
Mustang Ranch
Once Doris realizes that Bridgette is arguing with her father-in-law, she quickly puts on her mask. Now, to me it looked as if both Don G had a whole hour to get a good look at her without the mask; however, it seems that he did not see her face. I don’t know how he didn’t and I don’t know why he didn’t recognize her voice. What’s up handsome?
El Alcatraz-Lulu’s BedroomLulu sits on the bed and Antonio sits on a nearby chair. She explains how she did it. They want to ensure that Camila completely stays away from Pedro. Lulu thinks it will be impossible because Camila would have to see him together with fake Marianna for it to work. Antonio gets up and sits close to Lulu on her bed because she can’t seem to hear him from the chair he was sitting on. He says that all they have to do is have Camila see fake Marianna and Pedro together and she will believe it’s a real marriage.
Mustang RanchDoris slinks over to Don G. He tells her that he’s been telling Bridgette that he wants to spend the night with her. Doris doesn’t say on word. Don G looks into her eyes. When Doris walks off he says: without doubt she is the most beautiful. Bridgette looks worried.
You are not the boss of me, Pedro!El Talisman
Pedro tells Patricia that Lulu’s coming to visit. He asks her to be polite to Lulu. She says she can’t stand her and she’s going into the kitchen. The doorbell rings. Off-screen, someone is yelling a Pedro. When she enters the room, it’s Camila! She demands to talk to Marianna and Pedro. She tells him that she was humiliated when Marianna gave her the boot from El Talisman. He tells her that his wife doesn’t live there. She calls him a lying dog and tells him that she spoke to his wife whose mouth was full of insults towards her.
The Only Hotel Inn-Fresno
Armando has still not showered or changed his clothes. I don’t know how his mother and sister can continue to be around him in that state. Mommy Dearest asks if he’s contacted Brunette Jailbait. He’s says no.
El Talisman
Your wife insulted me and told me to leave. Ummmm my wife doesn’t live here. Listen to me. My boss says I’ll be fired. You’ll talk to him and you’ll tell him that it’s not my fault or give me my paycheck!
The Only Hotel Inn-Fresno
Mom, she’s jailbait, it’s an automatic ticket to the big house if I breathe on her. You have to help me get my revenge. I’m your mother. Get her before she gets you.
El AlcatrazLas Jailbait are discussing why Armando has not called yet. Surprise, Brunette Jailbait’s phone rings. She thinks she’s telepathic.
El TalismanCamila will not believe that she did not meet Pedro’s wife. She screams Marianna’s name. Pedro tells her that his wife disappeared and has not lived there in years. She scoffs.
El AlcatrazArmando invites his free ticket to jail to the movies. She’s all excited. He tells his mother that she accepted. Mom tells him never to forget that she is the grandchild of Don G and to never forget what Don G did to them. Armando looks like he feels bad. I think he really liked her. Both he and his mother had better leave those two little girls alone because Don G and his son are psychotic. Killing them would probably be a bonding moment for father and son. Jailbait are excited because brunette has a date and a boyfriend.
El Alcatraz Lulu’s roomWhile still sitting on the bed together, at least the incestuous duo are sitting further apart.
Someone at Univision must have read the viewer suggestion comments finally. Lulu explains that her friend Julia pretended to be Marianna, but she’s going back home tomorrow. Antonio says that all they have to do is get Camila to see Pedro and Julia together. He gets up from the bed. His sister gets up and stands closely behind him. They are going to visit Julia.
El Talisman
For the love of all that is good. They are still arguing. I don’t care unless this is going to end with him grabbing her and throwing her over his shoulder (that is so sexy). Anyway, he is still trying to convince her that she was not talking to his wife. Frankly, I wouldn’t believe him either, but I’m bored. He blocked her exit. Finally, something happened. She’s going to listen. Praise Jesus!
Julia's Hotel?The incestuous duo stops by Julia’s room to see if she’d like to join them for a threesome? I think that’s what my cc says. I have to rewind the DVR. No, I guess that’s not what they wanted. Hmmm. OK, so according to the new ccs, Lulu tells Julia that she did a great job. Once Julia lets them in, Anthony grabs her and gives her a little smooch on the cheek. He introduces himself. He sits on the couch with Julia and Lulu sits on something else. Lulu asks her to do them another favor.
El Talisman
Pedro tells Camilla that he believes that Antonio is behind this. Once again, Camila scoffs and doesn’t believe him.
Julia’s hotel
The incestuous duo tell Julia that they just want her to be seen talking to Pedro. Nothing more. Boy rich kids have nothing better to do. Lulu is confident that she can get Pedro to the meeting place. Both of the siblings kiss Julia goodbye.
El TalismanCammie makes Pedro promise that he is telling the truth. He does. Then she says true or not, you are a married man telling me that you love me.
Car with Steamed Up WindowsThe incestuous duo is sitting alone, in the backseat, of blue car with steamed up windows. This time, I am not lying, nor am I exaggerating in any way. OK, you caught me. The windows weren’t steamed up and they were sitting in the front seat. I think Lulu told Antonio not to wait up for her because she was going to stay and sleep with Antonio.
El Talisman
Camila wants to know why Pedro married Marianna? Money? Love? He tells her for neither. He married her because she and her father helped him when he came to America. He loves her like a sister.
TheatreArmando is going to jail or going to die by the hands of Antonio. I can see the handwriting on the wall. Jailbait tells him that he makes her nervous. Armando likes that he makes her nervous. He has yet to change his shirt and comb his hair.
El Talisman
FINALLY! Pedro explains that Antonio knocked up Marianna because he wanted El Talisman. Don Bernardo asked Pedro to marry his daughter to keep that riffraff away from is kid. Once Don G figured out that Don Bernardo sold El Talisman to someone else, then Don G beat Marianna like she owed him some money and killed the baby. I thought we would never get to this point.
El Alcatraz
Valentin was chilling reading the newspaper with his feet up, when he was so rudely interrupted by Antonio. Side note, I did not realize it earlier (because he had his shirt off), but Antonio has dimples. Antonio bursts into the room and wants to know where is father is. Valentin tells him that he doesn’t know where Don G is. Antonio tells him that his father is not immortal. He walks out and takes his 12 pack and his dimples with him.
El Talisman
Pedro tells Camila that Marianna lost her baby, her memory and no one has seen her in years. He doesn’t believe that she’s dead. Patricia interrupts the conversation, introduces herself as Marianna’s aunt and vouches for Pedro.
El Alcatraz
Alberta, knowing that Antonio is KA RAY ZEE, tries to avoid telling him that his daughter is out on a date. Blonde Jailbait tells her father that her sister Fabiola is out on a date with a pert near 40 year old man. I don’t think Antonio heard her correctly because, he remained calm and in a pleasant mood. I think Antonio plotting to kill him in the morning because he said tomorrow he wants to meet the “boy”. P.S. Did anyone else notice the sound of thunder with Antonio entered the room in this scene?
Theatre
Armando and Fabiola exit the theatre. He tells her that he likes her a lot. She tells him that she likes him too. Then Armando has a flashback to the conversation that he had earlier with his mother. Armando want to know if Fabby would have still went out on a date with him if he was poor.
El Talisman
Pedro says he has no way to prove that Don G is responsible for the disappearance. He doesn’t know whether Marianna is hungry, cold or sick, good or bad or if she has a roof over her head. Patricia chimes in the Marianna knew all about Cammie and that she planned on divorcing Pedro so that they could be together. Marianna and Pedro were only supposed to be married for one year. Marianna was going to help explain why they married, but she disappeared. Cammie smiles and asks, she knew about me. Pedro says he swears it. Patricia reiterates that the marriage was not for love and that Pedro is telling the gospel truth. She tells Cammie that she is Pedro’s only love. Patricia walks off knowing that she has done all that she can do. She’s handed Cammie to him on silver platter. It’s up to Pedro now. He’s kind of dumb, so we’re both a little worried that he may mess this opportunity up.
The Car with Steamy Windows
Antonio left the car no less than 8 scenes ago. I don’t know what Lulu was doing in the car all of this time, but for some reason, she has now decided to climb out. She is determinedly marching towards El Talisman. Great. She’s going to mess up Pedro’s game. She pauses long enough to tell us that tonight she will conquer Pedro.
El TalismanPedro says he doesn’t know how to show her that everything he says is true. Camila says that she needs time. She loves him, but she’s so confused. He asked her if she will come back to work in the morning. She agrees, but she’s leaving for the night. She gets her purse. He offers to walk her to the door. She says no, but calls his name, then walks over and rams her tongue down his throat. Right then, Lulu walks in on them. What is with the Negretes and their aversion to knocking or ringing a doorbell?
TheatreFabiola tells Armando that it doesn’t matter to her whether he has money or not. He tells her that Don G will probably expect him to have money. She says that it only matters what her father thinks and she is going to introduce him to KA RAY ZEE tomorrow. Armando looks a little nervous. And he should be.
El Talisman
Lulu leaves disgusted. Right afterwards, Cammie and Pedro take a break to rest their lips. Outside, Lulu ponders what kind of morals Cammie has that she would mess with a married man.
“Que clase de mujer es Camila? No respecta ni siquiera que Pedro es casado.”Lulu is kind of a big hypocrite since it doesn’t seem to bother her that both Pedro and her brother are married.
Pedro asks Cammie if she trusts him? You said that you love me and that’s what I want to believe. She turns to walk away. Pedro manhandles her and pulls her back to him. I know that I shouldn’t….but I love when he grabs her.It is so sexy. I’m sorry to all of the women’s libbers who came before me. I think she implies that she may not return tomorrow. He says that she will. Either that or she said will she regret it. I’m tired.
El Alcatraz
Gosh, this scene just shows that hot deranged people can show love too. He is so gentle with his daughters. Antonio tells blonde daughter that he has to plan his father’s demise with Elvira in the morning, but later on when he’s free, he’d like to meet Fabiola’s new boyfriend. Invite the “young” lad for dinner. A dark cloud (I mean Don G) enters the room and interrupts the loving family moment. Where has Don G been all this time? It took him 30 seconds to get to the Mustang ranch, but it he’s been gone for what seems like hours! His grand-daughter has snuck out of the house and watched a movie, his son has plotted his downfall, and his daughter has sat in the car doing who knows what for who knows how long. I think that if he would have slept with Doris, they would have shown it and he would have come back in a better mood. Last week she got a man to sign legal documents after he’d been with her. I'm positive that she could have taken his mind off of some stupid little cars.
Anyways, back to the story.
Don G barges in to the room. Alberta exits stage right in a hurry. There are one two many nuts in the room. Her limit is one at a time. Antonio asks blondie to leave. Did you take those cars back? Antonio humbly asks his father not to make him take the cars back. Don G keeps peeing on Antonio to show his alpha male dominance. Why did you buy those cars without my authorization and with my money? Antonio is trying to remain calm and humble. He mentally repeats to himself…My meeting to poison you is tomorrow, buddy…just 8 more hours to go! Don G says the girls can keep the cars, but he pees on Antonio a little more. I think his father told him that he owns him until he (the father dies). Antonio managed to keep a calm demeanor until Don G walked past him. Then his expression changed to pure hate. Let’s see how long you last, he said.
Credits Good Night Victor Hugo Cabrera wherever you are!
Be back Easter Monday!
Labels: Talisman
"Why would you go to a hooker to find out about your wife’s will? Oh, I forgot, the Mustang Ranch provides legal assistance as well as tax advice."
"The incestuous duo stop by Julia’s room to see if she’d like to join them for a threesome? I think that’s what my cc says."
"I did not realize it earlier (because he had his shirt off), but Antonio has dimples."
"Antonio tells blonde daughter that he has to plan his father’s demise with Elvira in the morning, but later on when he’s free, he’d like to meet Fabiola’s new boyfriend."
"Last week she got a man to sign legal documents after he’d been with her. Surely she can make a man forget about cars."
Crazy funny!
will comment on the recap at lunch.. have to do work first.
I giggled throughout, but especially liked:
- Gen and the new contractor being temporarily deaf
- Brunette / Blonde Jailbail (I hope the boys don't call them BJ)
- The Mustang Ranch provides legal assistance as well as tax advise.
- Don G keeps peeing on Antonio to show his alpha male dominance.
The only scene I saw from last night and I am so glad you detailed it was that awful near passionate kiss between the Sibs. That was just gag inducing. I honestly said the over-used line - Are... you... kidding... me? when I saw it. Guck.
Off to watch now and will check back later.
Cyn, I am not sure who your Victor Hugo Cabrera is. Is he in the show, or are we just sending out kisses to our crushes? In that case, Thanks for the good times, JFK, Jr. You will always be my dream guy.
Rosemary la Otra
ANNOUNCEMENT: Cynderella will be on hiatus from now until Monday April 9 (six weeks) when she resumes recapping. If anyone is interested in guest-recapping while she is gone please let me know. This telenovela is perfect for anyone who wants to give recapping a try. Otherwise I will just post a header on Monday nights for comments.
OK, take a slug of black tea, set the cup down, continue reading and snorting...
My favorite short 'n snappies....
the hookers multi-task
What's up, handsome?
She scoffs.
Just love that style. Have a good "hiatus", whatever you're doing, and thanks for the great recap.
A long, well-written, funny, DETAILED recap—what more could I ask for to start my morning. I am also thrilled that you loved the episode. For me, it's not yet bad enough to be good. Thank you for doing a great job on this episode.
It is obvious that the producers want us to think that Lola and Antonio are jumpin' bones off-camera. The actors are hardly even staying in character when they are together on screen, but it seems forced to me. Not that the two actors aren't involved, could be, why not?, but Uni is shoving it down our throats in SUCH an obvious way it is annoying.
Univision posted one of the many sweeps-fluff PR interviews with Lola teasing about what is up with she and Aaron Diaz. She was coy (big surprise).
If my brother ever called me coqueta and treated me like Antonio treats Lucrezia, I'd throw up in his shoes.
Happily in a normal sibling relationship,
Kelly
"Bridgette knows a lot of secrets and it’s not convenient". Uh oh, according to telenovela law inconvenient people usually meet an untimely end. I hope there is an assistant boink-ager at the Mustang Ranch.
Now WHY would Antonio give the poison capsules to Elvira when Tony actually lives at the ranch and he is not even sure that Elvira will get nekkid with the Troll? Not to mention: "I don’t think she’s a match for the pros at the Mustang ranch unless there’s something we haven’t been told about her."
Que the hell was up with that Espinoza Paz fantasy? Tracy, I'm disappointed in you. This is the best you can do? Truly my friends, I howled in laughter at that one. I think we need to add "Gratuitous product placement" and "Embarrassing cameo" to our bingo cards.
"Armando is going to jail or going to die by the hands of Antonio", maybe that's why he's not changing shirts. He's a short-timer and they are trying to save money on his wardrobe. Ya think??
"Did anyone else notice the sound of thunder with Antonio entered the room in this scene?" Yes, and what about all the other super loud background effects they had? LOUD horns, insane violins and fulminating creepy male background chorus. Obviously they are trying to inject drama into otherwise ridiculous scenes.
EJ, just read your comment about the PR on Aaron and Lola. Obviously Uni hasn't learned that overkill kills interest. To wit, Uni we just don't care.
Biggest laugh of the evening: “Que clase de mujer es Camila?" 'Nuff said.
I have tried but I can't find the dimples on Aaron Diaz. Is it possible they are somewhere else besides his face? The one with really cute dimples is Espinoza Paz.
They weren't in evidence in this episode because you really only saw his profile since Tracy was busy pestering him. But they certainly were in evidence on the Thursday night awards show. Prince Boyce has dimples too. They must be the latest thing. Both protagonists in LQPA have great dimples.
Does anybody else think that Genoveva is being set up as gay and in love with Camila? She wears much less makeup than the other women and the other day wardrobe had her in a vest, buttondown shirt and a tie. It's a (television) cliche if not a one used in telenovelas.
Just curious about what you all think...
EJ
I find it disconcerting when siblings on tv are actually dating in real life. I mean, good for them, I really don't care, I just start looking at them differently. Like on Dexter, of course they are now getting divorced. But the worst one was on Nip Tuck when the MOM (Julia) was dating her SON (Matt) in real life!
Comment overdue: Way back when someone called Brigette "Sherilynn Fenn".... was it you, Sara?... that was so funny and I do think of Twin Peaks when I see her.
The Espinoza Paz scene was out of the blue and I love Sylvia's idea of a bingo space with "Embarrassing Cameo". Her listening to the Me Voy, Me Voy song was a hoot! That could be a square too "Character SINGS title". I remember Matilde doing it in CME.
I printed off Card #8 (my lucky number given my birthday is 8/8). Is the rule that we start now filling in the squares or do we go retroactively? We already have:
-gratuitous shirtlessness
-No Me Toques
-protagonista talks out loud to self
-obvious product placement
-Que haces aqui
-Character says title of show
-fire (not in fireplace)
and would we count "Main Couple Break Up" yet?
Maybe Pig DID recognize Doris, but is such a good B.S.er that he held a poker face and later on will reveal "I knew it was you all along".
Pasofina - You are so right about the show improving once an anvil falls on Gregorio. Unfortunately, I bet we are stuck with that SARPULLIDO (rash) until the near end.
Time to look over La Lista de Julia so I can make unos comentarios importantes using new palabras.
R la O
I couldn't believe Camila actually managed to stop yelling long enough for Pedro to tell her what's up! Hooray for plot progress! Now if he would have just shown her a photo of Mariana..."hey, this is her, keep your eyes peeled and let me know if you see her anywhere..." But no. If he were serious about finding her there would be "missing person" posters plastered all over the county and Camila would know very well what she looks like...where's my beanie?
Every scene Antonio and Lucrazy are in, they look like they're on the verge of a game of tongue twister. In that scene in the bedroom, I thought clothes would go flying any second. And what the Hades is Univision thinking, trying to promote some showmance rumor? It's not unheard of to generate buzz in one's show, but you try to pick people who DO NOT PLAY SIBLINGS. Gag. Unless they are trying to tell us there will be an incest storyline.
But focusing on the good...I do like Antonio's scenes with his daughters. I like my baddies to have some humanizing aspects and reasons for being the way they are. Antonio pretty much had his development arrested when he was 14, became a husband and father, and his dad decided he was useless and he'd never let him do anything or make his own decisions, didn't he? It's hard to see poisoning Gagorio as an act of villainy; getting him out of the way seems more heroic.
Is gayness a common storyline in telenovelas. We've been having them for ages.. hmmm, is "Soap" the first one I remember?.... but I wonder with the more religious, Mexican culture how acceptable it is.
R la O
Character travels out of country (Lucrezia)
Coma/Fainting (Mariana)
Gun fired (Valentín)
Fistfight (Antonio & Pedro)
And how could we forget, HIDING IN CLOSET!
(I also printed out card #8, as my birthday is also 8/8. Go figure!)
Me Voy
Regarding Paulina's outfit...LooKrazia would be proud!!
R la O, funny, whenever I see Gagorio I think sapo = toad. Maybe he is a sarpullido de sapo?
EJ, I didn't really get the lesbian vibe from Geno, however I am alarmingly immune to vibes of that sort. I think she is just supposed to be 'detached and professional', unlike Camila.
About Mariana, wasn't that brief radio scene completely weird and off the wall? On one hand it totally makes sense that people would be on the lookout for her, but there was no lead-in, no discussion about what else they are doing to find her. And, as Julia says, NO FRIGGIN' POSTERS!!
Kelly
Just had to check out your novio--Here's the skinny on him--you lucky d.. person.
Víctor Hugo Cabrera is a Colombian actor, born 1968.
Cabrera is son of Ecuadorian artist Víctor Hugo Cabrera y Cácerez, a member of musical theatre group Los Chaparrines,and radio actress Concha Potier.
That puts him closer to my son in age. Sadly, there are no screen pics of him, but he sounds like a terrific galan.
Back to our Galan. Agreed--finally he and Camila got to an understanding--she let him talk--unlike some other pair at a different time slot.
In my mind it still does not excuse his behavior dropping Camila cold in the yoghurt shop with no explanation. Now he's all, you need an explanation and I've loved you for years??? Too bad it's going to be short lived (like it ends tonight).
P.S. did anyone notice that Lucrazier-Than-Ever did not pick out a sexy dress to wear over to El Tal? She was still wearing her leather jacket.
P.S. did anyone notice the Fresno skyline in the first shot of Elviral and Tony talking under the Spreading Chestnut Tree? I had to do a double take and then F(ell) on the F(loor) Laughing. Someone in editing was asleep at the switch. The next time they were shown under the STC, the buildings were blurred out.
So Dimpled Oh-Tony-Oh wants Elviral to fill capsules with the veneno but not give El Trollio enough to kill him and Elviral
isn't sure of the dosage? I hope she doubles it and puts us out of our misery on the double.
Where DO these people get ahold of all this untraceable veneno anyway. Didn't know Dimpled OTO was a chemist-cum-pharmacologist. I thought he was just good at looking good.
Oh, folks, I can't believe DOTO had never met Julia. She's Lucrazier-Than-Ever's best friend from boarding school.
Well, given that she's from Texas, maybe so, BUT, you'd think DOTO would know she's spending time at the Hacienda, lounging around the pool with LTE. BUT WHY is she staying at The Only Hotel Inn--Fresno and not at the Big Log Cabin Inn B&B with many rooms and cabañas. It's not like the Negrete's can't afford a house guest.
RLO--You and I are a lot more alike than I like--hehe. JFK, Jr. was also at the top of my dreamboat list. But I also have Jay Hernandez, Freddie Prinz, Jr., Jon Hamm, Juan Soler, and Rob Lowe, depending on the mood I'm in, not to mention the one and only TBLMOE.
Anita
My 2d wd verif. is ddrool--how apt.
I didn't realize it was so long until I posted it.
Kayzie, maybe you haven't notice his dimples because normally his pants are undone and he's not...wearing...(good lord)...a shirt. Look at the scene between Antonio and Valentin. Try to concentrate really hard on his face.
Victor Hugo Cabrera plays in a telenovela called Hasta Que la Plata Nos Separe. He is not a good looking man, but I found myself wishing that I was the love interest. It's all in his eyes. It was just about the first telenovela i've ever watched. It's still on. It comes on at 9AM every morning.
Cynderella
Unfortunately, in order to see my first novio one would have to find an episode of the The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriett. Yep, Ricky Nelson. Almost makes me cringe but I still have his first album. My new novio is also TBLMOE, sigh. I also have a crush on Jaime Camil.
Anita - Yes, we have the same taste in men. I am loving Parks & Rec "literally" just to look at that cute Rob Lowe smile. I haven't watched him as Drew Peterson yet. My daughter wants to watch it with me, so it's DVR'd til we have a couple of hours together.
I thought it was funny when Valentin, that lambiscon (toady)got caught with his feet on the coffee table.
Word verification (the one I can read): sires. Just who sired F1?
R la O
Cynd... we will miss you, love how you make the focus on the incestuous couple... I too believe these two have something off camera..
btw, i was watching Aaron Diaz and i think he is one of the best actors on this show... way better than most of the others
Secret crush-wise: Okay, you can "out" me as seriously deranged, but I used to have a thing for Jack Palance...and Charles Bronson. I know...need therapy, need therapy.
Cynderella, we're gonna miss you! This was such a great recap.
JudyB, I think you are consistent in your crushes. I've always thought Jack Palance and Charles Bronson reminded me of each other. They are both ruggedly handsome and very masculine. I totally get the attraction.
Like everyone else, I enjoyed the running theme of "You are not the boss of me!" And the intermittent deafness -- so true!
Sylvia -- I was thinking the same thing about Brigitte's life expectancy. She has become un estorbo, no? In fact, I was trying to decide who is among the dramatic Kleenex, that is, papel desechable. (Yeah, yeah, everyone in this show is disposable, but some more than others!) And the "assistant Boink-ager" (you kill me!) may get her turn sooner than she thinks!
EJ,
I'm not getting gay vibes from Geno. The actress is an ex-beauty queen like Blanca. I think we're seeing an example of the rule that the best friend can't outglam the protagonista.
Lines too good to let slide:
Antonio to Lucrecia:
¡Como siempre, pésima tu actuación!
(As always, your acting is the pits!)
And from the other day when Renato was drooling over the check sent by Pedro to El Viral and trying to figure out an angle:
¡Lástima que Pedro Ibarra no sea mujer!
(It's too bad PI isn't a woman!)
Dropping anyone cold is a yogurt shop is low and so——tacky. Pedro has a knack for doing just the wrong thing at the wrong time. (Grin)
Blue Lass and R la O, are you twins separated at birth? Same birthday? Whoa, cosmic, ladies. And La Bleu, I forgot about Genoveva's first appearance.
Fresno"s skyline is really the Miami, FL skyline I think. I read somewhere that that is where ElTal is being filmed.Fresno's skyline is somewhat more...hmmm....modest.
EJ
I'm surprised Pedro is having trouble selling the crops. I thought there was a hot market for wacky tobacky. That is what he's growing aside from avocadoes, right? Either that or someone is slipping muscle relaxants into his chow. He is so floppy and languid. Even when Camila planted that big smackeroo on him, he just stood there with his arms hanging limply at his sides, barely reacting. Doesn't really promote his image as the sexay galán.
Tonight I'm going to print out a bingo card and start playing along. I promise not to preselect for the one with the most stuff that has already happened.
NovelaMaven, I wonder if when Antonio made that comment about Lucrazy's acting, he wasn't really in character and didn't realize the camera was still on :).
But if you guys think this is bad, you should watch Dos Hogares, now that is just awful, I tape it and fastforward the entire episode. I am waiting just for one episode when the bad guys 3 wives confront him, that should be a classic.
Well I got suckered to watch this last night, but it's back to reading your posts.
But, am wondering out loud if the siblings are really siblings? Could he be from another man, and she from another woman? Just wondering.
Julia, you have a good point. I can see the theory of "keep her real", and out of clown makeup in the fields and orchards. I do find her less a buffoon than most of the other cast. Of course I am probably influenced by the fact that she wears sensible shoes.
EJ
Kelly
EJ, "Of course I am probably influenced by the fact that she wears sensible shoes." Funny.
Hey, I like your avatar. Great picture!
Here we get bordellos, incestuous siblings, violence, skank DILs, flim-flam men, vengeance, poisoning, undocumented immigrants (the nice kind, I admit), teenagers in really high heels and practically nothing else covering their legs, a boy becoming a father at 14, and a couple of kidnappings (ok, it was over a fence) and endless evil plotting, a Pop-Up Sleaze Girl and half-dressed men with BIG belt buckles.
Cyn--I'll check out el Sr. Victor Hugo Cabreras first thing in the morning. I guess you'll have to wait to get my reaction--or will you be checking in on the comment line?
Marta--You always come up with some of the best storylines for la continuacion of some of these tonto beginnings. You have a very active imagination. Are you in the business????
EJ--I knew it was somewhere in Miami that they are filming ET. It was just too funny to see big buildings just over the rise when they are supposed to be out in the country among the fields of avocados and grapes of Fresno. Any minute now I'm going to think I recognize some of the outdoor scenes from Eva Luna.
Anita
Julia - I liked the way you worded "getting him (Gregorio) out of the way seems heroic".
Sylvia - Thanks for the Me Voy link with EP. Now that scene makes a little more sense. Not only did I not know he sang it, I didn't even realize it was a real song.
Also Sylvia - What does your TBLMOE mean when talking about your crush? I looked it up on text abbreviations and all I could see close to it was:
TB - Titty Bar
and TBE - Thick Between the Ears.
What great things I am learning with this study group!
Word Verification: Talmud. Coupled with my Brigham from yesterday, I think the Word Verification Gods are trying to egg me into going to church. What's the word for tomorrow? "Baptism"?
R la O
Anita
I just got Vespasian for my second ver. word.
Are we EVER going to find out what happened to Mariana? They keep mentioning her and then I think the next scene will cut to her, but no. Last night we even got a "Los Angeles" title card teaser, but then it was just K-LOVE.
Did any of you Llena de Amor viewers see Parks and Recreation last week? There was a handcuffing to a urinal. It made me think of Carlos and his CC quote. Unfortunately it was just Leslie's ex-novio cuffing her current dude, so I doubt it foreshadows a hot romance.
When we got our boat I lobbied really hard to name it Fernando Colunga, or at least Fernando. That way I could say things like "I'm going to polish Fernando Colunga's tall mast this weekend." Or "I'm pulling Fernando Colunga so I can give him a bottom job." Or "Hand me the soap so I can clean Fernando Colunga's top sides."
Alas, my boat partners did not agree that this would be a suitable name.
Kelly
First: Thanks again Cyn for the recap. I don't know why, but the line "Drug Dad. Got it" just had me rolling. You completely expressed the frustration I often feel when recapping/watching. I often scream "OK! WE GOT IT! SHUT UP! MOVE ON!" at the TV. I loved your short sentences and I don't think you are a bad writer at all!!
Cap'n was it you who found the radio scene weird? I did too. Very QTH? In fact, I almost expected it to be a PI dream.
Since we are sharing crushes...today mine are:
* Steve Buscemi
* Jorge Salinas (duh)
* Marcelo "Antolin" Cordoba
Who knows who my celeb crushes will be in the future. I'm fickle.
"I'm pulling Fernando Colunga so I can give him a bottom job."M'dear you did it again. A perfectly NICE cup of tea sprayed on the ipad.
I would guess that the above mentioned phrase is spoken by people of all genders, all over the world, every day—–in their dreams.
I sent you an OT note on your gmail.
EJ
Now go do your homework.
Last night's episode and Cyndi's recap closed the deal for me. I am loving this show and must say that Lucrezia works just fine for me. I love the matter-of-fact oh well attitudes with which she and her brother accept their setbacks. They are my favorite couple.
Carlos
Carlos - Lucrecia and her brother are your favorite couple! lol lol
El hermano is el chulo (pimp) for his chafisima (super trashy) hermana. How did I ever comment before La Lista de Julia?
Sara - I hope your day from Hell is over. Nothing can revive a girl like El Talisman. Hang in there.
R la O
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