Saturday, February 18, 2012
La Que No Podía Amar #38 Friday 2/17/12 Let The Accusations Fly!
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It really annoys me that things get built up in novelas just to be knocked down.
No, it does not sound like I am going to like this at ALL! But of course that wouldn't stop me from reading fabulous recaps and watching los episodios!
But, if Bruno would simply have revealed to AP that Rohell held up helping Miguel in order to coerce her into marrying him, he could have accomplished the same thing.
Fasten the beanies, everyone.
She might even get the idea that Ana Paula can take his fortune if he goes to prison for a crime he didn't commit.
GAH!!!
*justashowjustashowjustashow*
So funny. You need to take a step back and remember it's just a made up story. And who knows, they might ultimately live happily ever after.
Off topic, I hate the change to the word verification. You can barely make out the second word.
For the moment, it seems like she doesn't have the brains to suspect of Bruno too and he was the one who actually knew Gus and got pissed when he found out that she had a boyfriend. And how convenient that she find the documents WITH Bruno. Besides, I thought she already got to know Rogelio and realized he is not a killer.
I think Bruno hopes that she could fake being a loving wife after this and join forces with him to take Rogelio's fortune and avenge her boyfriend's "death". Bruno thought she wouldn't fall in love with Rogelio and the fact that she did makes him unable to manipulate her into taking his fortune. She needs to be by Bruno's side, but she isn't that good at faking.
It was hard for me to get over Rogelio's slapping of AP, which can be seen in the avance, but hey, she hit a man in a wheelchair too (I hope I remember correctly how the episode ended and I don't spoil things lol), which is just as bad - especially since he's innocent. Ok, she was uncontrollable and crazy, still I thought it was pretty low for him to do that. It's as if Jorge Salinas is becoming bigger than the character and too much above everyone else, so they try to lower him, so that AP could rise. I hate this, a character should be good based on his own merits, not considered to be good because the other did something humiliating, making him to lose points.
I hate AP, she's an awful protagonist. The only reason why I consider myself Rogeliana is simply because of Rogelio, not because of the pair. If she screams and slaps people without reasoning and points fingers without seeing her own mistakes, then Rogelio is too good for her.
Ever since she arrived at the hacienda, she behaved as if she was his girlfriend, trying to establish rules and such and make things her way. I don't like these kinds of people who don't know their place and who feel offended when people tell them that they are only nurses, as if they weren't only that. Then, to complain about an injured foot in front of a man in a wheelchair and be surprised that he isn't in a jolly mood...nah, I don't like her.
Vanessa knows she has a sister, Ernesto's shrill wife is dead, Estaban is moving away from Vanessa back to Mercedes, Cinthia broke it off with the environmentally-heinous and generally undesirable David (love LXV's comment on her gratuitous self-righteousness). Lots and lots to keep us watching for a while.
Thanks, recappers. I'm hopelessly behind with new 10 p.m. slot, but caught up today.
I am so not interested in these stories, really. Mercedes es una histerica, can't stand her. The other friend Chio reminds me of Miss Piggy. Gustavo...umm...next. Macaria, Ulises, Consuelo - borefest. Hugo is my man-toy, so I don't complain about him. In the end, apart from Rogelio, there isn't a single positive character I care about and I mean positive in the traditional way. Well, heck, not even Rogelio is the typical galan. I do find Cinthia to be a riddle and Efrain and auntie Rosy are fun, so apart from Roger, I only care about those 3.
"No, she’s not bored---but Viewerville is." — and moi aussi!
"(The question all Viewerville is dying to have answered is does he feel a sexual sensation like other men feel, or is it simply mental?)"—alas, they gave us no clue.
"...curiously, without Brat Girl in tow." —yes, I thought it rather odd.
"he’s brought the papers regarding the stud bulls".—is that really what he said?, missed it completely, Now I'm LMAO
"(Viewerville eagerly looks forward to seeing Mersnotty’s get a taste of her own medicine soon!)"—YESSSS!
Of course, it was all so great, I had to stop quoting. But all in all, a great recap.
BTW—Variopinta sends her regards, but has been having the same problem as me, which is to say that we can barely make out the new word verification that blogger makes us go through, so her comments aren't making it onto the blog. This is a pity What do we do? I hate to think of missing one instance of good snark!
Did Gus know that Cinthia knew David? I didn't think they ever connected that Gus used to work for the guy working for Cinthia's brother. Shouldn't Gus have questioned that when he bust into David's office and saw her there?
Don't think it's the spotlight Vanessa is not wanting to share. Fred really should've gotten that will changed. Now he'll have TWO women planning his demise. I have hopes that Vanessa will come around since she does love him in her way, but they're very dim hopes.
Kelly
I'm also a Rogeliana strictly because of Rog. Jorge Salinas is the only reason I'm watching for now until AP gets her act together.
Yes, sure, the viewer always knows more than the characters, but sometimes I can't help but wonder who raised the Carmona brothers, since they obviously aren't as clever as the aunt. As a matter of fact, I am not even sure if those two have a neuron all together...
The Brat Girl , loved that name,
needs to grieve for her mother, even though the apple didn't fall far from the tree ie Gloria.Marcela will give her Daddy unending grief over Mersnotty. Mersnotty needs to stay away from Ernie. She needs foster the friendship more with Esteban.
Loved the bed scene with Rohell and the Cupcake. It looked so natural to just be talking and then falling asleep. It was the end to a perfect evening and then the Skelator had to ruin it.
I have not been a big fan of Rohell but OMG that shoving of Rohell's wheelchair I felt so sorry for him. What happened to our sweet Cupcake she has become a twisted sour dough pretzel. She couldn't even ask him if he knew Gus, just you killed him, I hate you and you'll pay really!!! What are these writers smoking? I thought El Tal was bad, but I hope they don't keep this up for a long period of time. It is true that they don't have enough evidence to charge Rohell with anything other than the baggie being in the drawer, circumstancial at best.
I hate how the twisted pretzel was so mean to Maria. Maria could have set her straight.
Loved how Sin threw that ring at David. Serves him right but he will find a way to get back at Gus and at Sin too.
Vainy was not happy to find out she has a sister, just wait until Fed and the Vainy find out who she is, I hope Fed doesn't have another attack and Vainy doesn't try to destroy her.
"There’s been a car crash and Gloria (the shrew) got ground to mincemeat and has now assumed room temperature. Ernie is free at last, free at last! (On the other hand, poor St. Peter is no doubt having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.)" ROFL after I fell off my chair.
Rohell made my heart melt when his eyes were filling with tears from the joy of holding AP in his arms. So sweet, so short lived.
So, AP knows Rohell doesn't want people messing with his office and files when he's not there. Yet she just takes Bruno on in there instead of saying "we'd better wait." Methinks she deserves her pain and suffering to some degree.
At least Cin is free of big Dave. I guess our love birds need more seasoning before they can deserve one another. Arrrgghhh!
La Paloma
When they woke up, judging by his position I doubt he was able to get to sleep, his neck probably hurt like hell, but hey, it would have been a pity to move and wake up the kitty.
Also, it would be unfair to say that Rogelio had anything to do with Miguel's arrest. Sure, he didn't authorize David to interfere favorably, but Miguel was never charged with the robbery of the truck - he went to jail because he killed two people, so unless they want to make us believe that Rogelio put something in his drink to make him sleepy, it was entirely Moron Miguel's fault for landing in jail.
I found both slaps disturbing, although I think hers is worse, because of the context. Good thing is that Rog's slap looks so fake in the avance. Te-hee, when men give a slap in tv shows, it's painfully obvious that it's fake, but when it's the other way round, women are hard hitters lol. I remember how Sasha and Edith Gonzalez almost dislocated Eduardo Palomo's mandible in Alcanzar una Estrella II and Corazon Salvaje, they both slapped him really hard :-).
There is even a blooper reel in Alcanzar una Estrella II with the slap. And yes, that's Ricky Martin lol.
Blooperss
They had to shoot that scene 8 TIMES, because she was always hitting him wrong, slapping his neck or his ear, since she was trying not to hurt him, so he eventually told her not to worry about hurting him and to give him a good slap. And she did lol. Her reaction is even funnier taking into account that they were novios in real life by that time.
And as for the Corazon Salvaje slap, it occurs at 1:34
Ouch
It's an actual scene, not a blooper, but by their looks, she realizes that she hit him too hard and almost asks him with her look: "OMG I bet it hurt! Should we continue?"
and he tells her with his eyes: "Heck, don't mess the scene since you already slapped me good" lol.
Awwww, I liked the corny stuff with Rohell and Cupcake. I guess because that's it for a while for these two.
Poor Rohell, finally his life doesn't suck, and Bruno has to screw it all up.
Yes, Cupcake definitely SHOULD have been thinking things through and realizing that this theory didn't pass the smell test. But she's overwhelmed and Bruno is feeding that. But her slapping poor Rohell and pushing his wheelchair was over the top. (But yet, I think, as someone else said, Karma! He does have to pay for all his douchebaggery!)
As for the slap Rohell gives her in the avances, I took some of that to be the kind of slap given to a hysterical person (as seen in old politically incorrect 40s movies). SOME of that. As a rule, Rohell sticks to hitting grown men, not women. So that doesn't seem like him at all, and it shocked me when he did it.
Yes, there are parts that drag, drag, drag in this show. You have to suffer through it! But at least Jorge Salinas is awesome. There are a lot of ups in the story too—it's not ALL down! But we Rogelianas have to exercise patience at times, to wade through the boring stuff and the stupid stuff that doesn't make a lot of sense.
As for whether Cupcake is going to end up with Rohell in the end, no one knows, but like I keep on saying, I'd be shocked if they didn't, and the very large, vocal fanbase for them would be very shocked and angry as well. Plus there's a point in the story where I feel it's very hard for them to turn back, you know what I mean? I'm not that worried about it anymore. Plus I don't think they'd pull a stunt like that on JS, after all he's been through to finish this show.
"Gloria (the shrew) got ground to mincemeat and has now assumed room temperature."
I think we will find out that M-Grito and Marcela are long-lost siblings. They obviously share the same vocal cord DNA.
I like AP as a protagonist. I think she is honorable, sincere and sweet without being sanctimonious and without becoming a doormat.
Emarie, " It was awfully considerate of Ernesto's wife to get killed like that" LOL! If she had really been considerate, she would have become hamburger before Ernesto asked her for a divorce. He could have been the poor widower instead 1/2 of a home-wrecking duo.
Call me an idiot or a hopeless romantic. I really fell for the scene where Cupcake climbs into bed with Rohell. I replayed it several times and it tugged my heartstrings each time.
Alexandra, "but Roger gives them some sort of a deep dimension. I don't know whether it's his charisma or simply his great acting skills, but if he does it, it's sweet. "
I think it's acting, charisma and the deep dimension that a lot of Viewerville finds Rohell HOT.
LXV, "But good for our Cindy; she saw her way out and took it with gratuitous self-righteousness."
That was excellent wasn't it? I also found Vainey's pleasure that they were both able to self-righteously dump their guys kinda funny.
There are things she does, choices she makes that aggravate me to the extreme, but for the most part she's trying to do the "right thing." It's just that since this is a telenovela, the thing that seems like the "right thing" is not exactly that. (Typical telenovela heroine, in other words.)
In a month, the telenovela will be over in Mexico and it seems that it will share the timeslot in its last weeks with Amor Bravio...Cuando Manda el Corazon (What a stupid Cuando me Enamor-esque title!), starring Silvia Navarro and Christian de la Fuente. The producer of LQNPA fought to keep his normal timeslot, but I think that eventually each telenovela will be split in 30 min episodes, since the other one should start on the 5th of March.
Sincerely, I don't care with whom will Roger end up with. My only wish is for him to be happy, because he earned that and deserves it, regardless of the woman who will stand by his side.
Without giving anything away, the thing is that in the end it doesn't matter which fanbase is bigger, since if they will wait until the last episode to pair AP with someone once and for all, the Rogelianas won't have time to abandon the ship. The threats will be useless. Sure, they could say they will refuse to watch his next telenovelas, but eventually the ratings will remain unchanged.
While I believe it's incredibly stupid to keep us in doubt regarding the man who will stay with Cupcake til the end, since someone who truly loves a man wouldn't make up her mind on the episode 160 lol, I DO think that this is a way to keep both teams hopeful that anything can happen, since losing a team from early on means losing viewers. It's a marketing strategy and while I would blame the lack of courage to say that YES, this woman belongs 100% body and soul and mind to Mr. X and nothing could change that, I understand why they would do that.
This same producer did "Teresa," and he didn't let us down with that one (he covered his butt by filming three endings and picking the one which best "fit" the target audience, so I'm told). So, right there I think that the producer is not insensible to what the audience wants. I agree, I think he wants people to be guessing (like he did with "Teresa") but with "Teresa" it was easier for us to be uncertain, just because of the way Teresa was. She was morally ambiguous, conflicted, and even at the end when she "reformed," it wasn't as wholehearted as it could have been.
Rohell is not Teresa, and you're right Alexandra, he deserves to be happy. I was greatly amused by Teresa (the character), but when she ended up with Professor Hottie, I felt it was more because he deserved a happy ending (since he would have suffered without her) than because she did.
They've written Rohell throughout the show as someone who is trying to be better (two steps forward, one step back—or maybe it's the other way around) and even though he's ROHELL, which means douchebaggy things happen, he does try. As far as I've seen (but of course there are things I miss) he never crosses over certain lines that have made us love him less, the old turd that he is! LOL. And it's Jorge Salinas we're talking about here! He doesn't deserve the rug pulled out from underneath him after all he's been through. So I'm not going to fret about the ending, more than I have to, anyway! LOL.
I showed Offspring (22 years old) Wednesday's Off-key serenade scene and Friday's snuggles. We have a new Rogeliana lol. Offspring must have a thing for older guys, too 'cause she didn't think the two looked terribly age mis-matched.
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Mgrito and screeching Brat Girl being related? LOL! Good one!
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Pirate Babe: ITA about Rog's getting bitch-slapped repeatedly upside the head.
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Madelaine: "...our sweet Cupcake she has become a twisted sour dough pretzel." LMAO funny! What a visual!
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Elvira: I'd be upset myself if after all this crap he's gone through, ol' Ro-Hell gets the heave-ho in the end. He'd have to sacrifice himself say, in a fight with Bruno to protect Paula. Honestly, Pau and Gus are such naive doofi that they seem to be perfect for each other. Maybe Rog needs to meet Carmen.
I forgot completely about La Esposa Virgin. Poor JS -- he's done time in some real stinkers. Every time I sat down to watch that one, full of some of my favorite actors, I dozed off.
Here's hoping that in the many months before this ends, there will be some reasonable steps toward a satisfying conclusion. I'm probably a fool to hold out hope. Beanie tightened.
I knew they were going to pull something like this but I hoped it would be more believable and not involve a sudden personality change by AP.
Of course I knew the anvil would fall right after the super romantic episode, so I was emotionally prepared for "TN torture".
Seems like they packed a weeks worth of action in one episode, though. Whew! My head was spinning!
(Haven't read the recap yet - just had to get the above off my chest. Thank goodness for the Caray, Caray support group!)
I admit I can't wait to see Tia figure out that Bruno planted the evidence to frame Rogel. LOL!
Definitely too much Bruno in that episode. I had to avert my eyes!!!
I also found violently attacking a man in a wheel chair disturbing.
Audrey
I do like AP, I think she is a very inexperienced young woman who lacks a wordly perspective and certain maturity, however, she is above all a good person. She has idealized her relationship with Gustavo because he was her first love snd because he "died". Her behavior at the end of the episode was very extreme but I do understand why, when logic would point to Bruno, she was willing to believe the worse of Rogelio: because she has already seen it.
She knows about the beatings, she has seen him mistreat Margarito, she has seen the way he treats his sister, etc. Meanwhile, she hasn't seen Bruno being terrible to anyone yet.
I love Jorge Salinas's acting here, he is wonderful as Rogelio but if we are measuring the quality of a person, Ana Paula is still, with all her freak outs and idealizations and judging, a much better one than him.
And that really hit home for me when he was talking about his year of traveling before college. What a wonderful way to gain perspective of how the world works, he is a very lucky man: he grew up in wealth, he traveled, he studied and he is the owner of the richest ranch in that side of Chiapas. Yet, he let himself became horrible because of his accident.
I wonder if Cinthia ever got to travel, since we know she wasn't allowed to study. Rogelio should feel lucky just by looking at how his sister had it with their father. But he is still making some of the same mistakes his father made regarding her.
Jarocha
"Amor Bravio...Cuando Manda el Corazon (What a stupid Cuando me Enamor-esque title!)"
I know! it was supposed to be called Lidia de Amor, which I didn't like, then they changed it to Amor Bravío which I thought it was MUCH better but then they started adding the second part of the title and I was just frustrated. Every time I hear the title, my mind just keeps hearing Thalía sing "ay cuando manda el corazón, siempre, siempre manda el amor...".
But at least the story looks good (it's based on a pretty good novela) and I'm ready for Silvia Navarro to play bitchy, she does it so well. Add Lety Calderón and César Évora as the evil masterminders and I'm interested.
Elvira:
"when she ended up with Professor Hottie, I felt it was more because he deserved a happy ending (since he would have suffered without her) than because she did."
I agree, I loved Teresa as a character but I wouldn't have minded if she ended up alone. Still, it was just clear to me that Arturo would never love anyone else like he loved her, so I was happy for him that they ended up together. And whatever, I still enjoyed that Teresa never really lost her edge but she would just stop doing awful things to the people she loves from then on.
Jarocha
If he doesn't win the acting award for this series I will be royally peeved.
And let me say one more time that pulling the rug out from under Rogelio at the end of this series would be a seriously stupid thing to do. I didn't agree with the ending of Teresa that was shown here and if this producer does this again I may never watch another of his productions.
With this story, I think the hoped-for outcome is much more clear-cut. We see this already, just by how Rohell/JS steals the show and how the storyline is focused.
My theory (which could be off-base) is that the producer is doing his "edgy" thing (which I guess he likes to do) by having the villain of the previous versions of this story (the violent douchebag in wheelchair and w/ whip) end up being a protagonist/hero and end up with the girl. I think that's enough for us to digest, right there!
There is so much to feel for Rohell, and even we shake our heads at some of his douchebaggery and want to knock some sense into him, many of us are ending up on Team Rohell (or can at least understand the appeal). Jorge Salinas is a huge part of the reason for that. He deserves a good ending for his character (which he's obviously very fond of).
Sorry Cupcake turned into a banshee with Rogelio, but I am glad she wasn't able to keep quiet like Bruno wanted. She may be too naive and confused to figure out what really happened, but surely Rogelio will suspect its Bruno who planted stuff in his office. If Rogelio is clueless, then I really will howl. Since she's also his nurse, I wondered if Cupcake could be brought up on patient abuse charges. In my view if he slaps her Monday, she's got it coming.
I liked the bedroom scene with Rogelio and Cupcake. After feeling like a dead man for seven years, he was overjoyed that AP asked him to hold her. So sweet. I like this stuff. Call me cursi. :D
ITA on Cynthia getting David off her hands so smoothly -- so funny. Looking forward to Efrain finding out she's got yet another novio.
I hope that fan support for JS is as strong in Mexico as it is on this blog. Of all the men on Televisa's roster he is the most expressive and has the greatest depth.
Is there still a virus issue with Univision's website? That would have the info.
Great snark with the recap! Loved it. I really needed it too - to balance out the saccharine and the not credible. [I'm also glad to know I'm not alone in my jadedness].
Cinthia is such a wuss! I loved how she jumped on Dave's shady dealings as her chance to dump him LOL!
I was afraid AP (in true TN fashion) was going to comply with Bruno's insane urging to keep quiet about this and do the secret plotting vengeance thing with him alone. And that really would have been way out of character. I was so relieved that she blurted it all out already.
Yep, looks like Mersnotty is doomed for a BIG taste of her own medicine. Couldn't have happened to a nicer nurse! :)
I also have no complaints about Rogelio/JS's age. Heck, I'm older, and DH even more so. Yes, it's AP being so young, looking barely 18 and having the mentality and world view/experience of a 15 year old, that I find so jarring. I just haven't been able to get used to it.
Audrey
And see, that's why "Teresa" was such a great show, and why her story was so ambiguous. So many different viewpoints. It's not at all clear-cut.
I wouldn't have minded so much had Teresa not ended up with Arturo, as long as they convinced us that Arturo was happy. They had a "consolation girl" all lined up for him, too. But in the end I guess it was more believable for him to still be stuck on Teresa. I think he needed her (probably a weakness in him) and that's why I was happy she ended up with him.
I've mentioned this before, but I think Rohell needs to be with Ana Paula in the same way. That's another reason why I think they'll end up happily ever after. Gus does love AP, but we see how he bounces back. He mopes a bit, but he's bouncing back. I can't see Rohell "bouncing back" in that same way. He might pretend to bounce back (in his unique douchebaggy way) but he'd never get over AP.
"Of the alternate endings I thought the one where she ended up alone to hunt fresh game was the most logical."
I agree that this was a pretty good ending too. It made me laugh! I think they used the different endings in different countries? (I recall one of the commenters here telling us this when we were watching "Teresa.")
Does anyone think, based on what we've seen so far, that it'll be as ambiguous for Rohell? I think most of us, whether we're on Team Gus or Team Rohell, can see what's going on with Rohell pretty clearly and see where the writers are going there.
I agree, Jorge Salinas is full of awesome. Let's call him Mr. Full of Awesome. Boy, I am such a fangirl. And it's based just on this one performance, which should be an additional testimony to his awesomeness. And yes, I think the fan support is pretty strong in Mexico and here.
I mentioned that fan video I did a while ago (which is on YouTube, though I won't link to it there due to YouTube being full of spoilers). It gets a lot of hits and suprisingly popular. (Trust me, I've done a lot of fan videos and all things considered, this video is more popular than I expected.) But so are most Rohell-AP fanvids. There's even a person who is picking through EACH FREAKIN' EPISODE of LQNPA and editing them to just the RA-Rohell scenes together. That is devotion. So yes, the fan support is pretty fervent, in my opinion. I find that YouTube is a pretty good indicator of these things. LOL!
Sorry for getting too windbaggy there.
TL;DR: Jorge Salinas is awesome, I think the AP/Rohell pairing is very popular among fans.
Rogelio's anger management issues and manipulative ways came out of his accident and its aftermath. I want to see flashbacks to his parents to know what they were all about because I'm convinced that he had to work 10x as hard to manage his ranch to prove himself to his father once he was in the wheelchair. He was getting over this when Bruno pulled the rug out from under him in this episode.
I agree with a previous comment on how out of character it would have been for AP to keep quiet. She isn't afraid of confrontation and to have her pull back from that now would be ridiculous.
I do have to wear my beanie to believe that Teresa is completely reformed, but I have a pretty good beanie, so I do it with the dream that Professor Hottie will be happy. As long as he's happy . . . :D
As for Rohell and his struggles, I agree with your theory about him. He was getting over his many issues when Bruno did what he did. Rohell may have had some stubborn traits, he may be a male chauvinist pig and all that, but the difference between him and Teresa is that he wants to change, he's much more open to it as soon as he feels hope. His douchebagginess didn't happen in a vacuum (neither did Teresa's, though). But Rohell recognizes that being a whip-wielding douchebag isn't giving him happiness. He's more than willing to give that all up when he truly feels hope. Teresa, on the other hand, reveled in the way she was and didn't really "get" why it was bad until the very end. (And some would argue that she never would ever "get" it completely.)
As for the romance, I believe one of the other versions had the Rog character remain frustrated and impotent. The last thing I want is for JS's character to remain stuck in that chair and useless in bed for anything more than a pillow.
I am sure Rosy will know that it was Bruno's hand, since he doesn't want those two together and she knows it. So she'll probably do whatever it is in her power to convince AP that Rogelio is innocent, but I am not sure if stubborn Ana Paula will listen. I wish I could tell you how many episodes you should skip to keep your eyes virgin lol, but my lips are sealed.
Teresa was a redeemable character. After all, you didn't doubt her feelings for Arturo, despite all the things she did. You only doubted if she'll be able to put love above her ambitions and I think the way they ended it was the right one. Hours before airing the finale, the same producer said he wasn't sure which ending will he choose lol, so he might just be playing mindtricks. He is aware however of the support for Rogelio and he showed that he respected Jorge Salinas' work when he was in hospital and decided to keep him onboard. Still, I am not sure that he'll give the character a decent ending, but I hope he will. That's the only thing I am worried about. In a wheelchair or not, I want him to accept who he is and I want someone who can accept him with his qualities and imperfections, without demanding things he can't give/do. As far as I see things, I don't know if AP will ever be able to love Rogelio the way he loves her, since during all these episodes she didn't quite manage to get over Gustavo's Ghost, her love of 3 days with whom she released her doves...
One thing for sure, she doesn't trust poor Rogelio :(.
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Amen, Jardinera!!
As to your question from yesterday: Offspring really doesn't understand much Spanish beyond "Hello, how are you?" or really controlled (like in a classroom.) I showed her the episodes with no subtitles at first because I wanted to know if the chemistry I was seeing was real or just based on dialogue. Offspring saw it even without having a clue of backstory or anything.
Rosy could try though to blackmail Bruno, telling him that he doesn't fix things, she'll tell Rogelio that it was him who planted the evidence. Still, Bruno has some things of his own with which he could blackmail Rosy, so they each know things that could harm the other. The highest bidder is Rogelio, so it's normal that she would side with him. Yet, she needs Bruno too so she'll try to keep both men happy. Bruno surely won't like the fact that she already spilled the beans, but she probably won't compromise his good friend and won't mention that she was with him when she found the stuff.
And as I said before, she has a motive for wanting Rogelio out of the way.
However, it shouldn't take much effort on anyone's part to find out that Gustavo is alive. Alive and able to identify his attacker.
On another note, did Rogelio ever leave the ranch to conduct business prior to Ana Paula coming into his life or did he never leave the property during that seven years after the accident? Who would have to be coming and going to enable his isolation and who would never be seen by Maria, Consuelo, or Hugo?
It will have to come out fairly soon that Gus is alive because he is Cin's official novio now that she broke up with David. He can now meet her family. But a few things have to happen before AP and Gus discover each other if they aren't going to start their relationship again. One is that AP and Rog have to clear things up between them and be happy again. So therefore I'm hoping that Rosaura fesses up to Rog about what Bruno planned, hoping that he doesn't tell AP about her own involvement in the Gus disappearance. It would tear up poor Cupcake after all to know the lengths Tia would go to to separate them.
But if Rog finds out what Bruno is doing anytime soon, Bruno will get kicked to the curb real fast, unless Bruno does get found out and plans something else once he's gone to get AP and his land back. And that could involve Vanessa somehow since both of them want revenge against Rog.
After all, when Bruno told her that Rutilio killed Gustavo, she was quite frightened by the idea, since she only wanted to give him a good scare and make him go away FOR A WHILE, not to finish him off like that, so while she has a price and is capable of doing many things for money, she isn't too keen on the idea of killing someone, like Bruno. Besides, her interests match ours - she wants Rogelio and AP together too lol. Not to mention that her inappropriate comments are, in most cases, true.
Really, this plot detour makes no sense to me. It's like they just wanted to add more episodes but it's too early for the "extension doldrums". I just don't get what this story shows except that Ana Paula is still willing to believe the worst of her husband—and with good reason. He has charmed her but hasn't earned her trust.
EJ
You are right—she was beginning to trust him. But it wasn't long ago that she saw some of the depths of his scheming—her wedding day—and called it the worst day of her life.
Also, UA, ITA that Tia's only love is dinero but she sure ENJOYS engaging in malicious activity. She is a talented sh!# disturber and gossip! Dreadful character, Tia Rosaura.
EJ
Jardinera: Weren't Thalía and Eduardo so young and cute there? Marimar was a gift to old Timbiriche fans.
The Premios TVyNovelas will be in March, here are the nominees:
Best telenovela:
Dos hogares
La Fuerza del Destino
Una familia con suerte
Triunfo del amor
La que no podía amar
Best actress:
Anahi - Dos hogares
Ana Brenda - La que no podia Amar
Maite Perroni - Triunfo del amor
Mayrin Villanueva - Una familia con suerte
Sandra Echeverria - La Fuerza del Destino
Best actor:
Arath de la Torre - Una familia con suerte
David Zepeda - La Fuerza del Destino
Jorge Salinas - La que no podia Amar
Sergio Goyri - Dos hogares
Best villain (male):
Jorge Ortiz de Pinedo - Dos hogares
Juan Ferrara - La Fuerza del Destino
Lisardo - Esperanza del Corazon
Best villain (female):
Chantal Andere - Rafaela
Daniela Romo - Truinfo del amor
Laisha Wilkins - La fuerza del Destino
Olivia Collins - Dos Hogares
Best "primer actor":
Cesar Evora - Triunfo del amor
Enrique Rocha - Una familia con Suerte
Fernado Allende - Esperanza del Corazon
Rogelio Guerra - Rafaela
Best "Primera Actriz":
Delia Casanova - La Fuerza del Destino
Carmen Salinas - Triunfo del amor
Lucia Mendez - Esperanza del Corazon
Patricia Reyes Spindola - Rafaela
Ana Bertha Espin - La que no podia Amar
Best supporting actor:
Alejandro Ibarra - Amorcito Corazon
Jose Ron - La que no podia Amar
Mark Tacher - Triunfo del amor
Pedro Moreno - Una familia con suerte
Best supporting actress:
Alicia Machado - Una familia con suerte
Ximena Herrera - Ni contigo Ni sin Ti
Marisol del Olmo - Esperanza del Corazon
Best young actor:
Brandon Peniche - Ni contigo Ni sin Ti
Diego Amozurrutia - Amorcito Corazon
Alejandro Speitzer - Esperanza del Corazon
Oslvado De Leon - Una familia con suerte
Best young actress:
Claudia Alavarz - Dos Hogares
Gaby Mellado - Amorcito Corazon
Livia Brito - Triunfo del amor
Thelma Madrigal - Esperanza del Corazon
Male revelation:
Juan Diego Covarrubias- Una familia con suerte
Mane de la Parra - Esperanza del Corazon
Pablo Lyle - Una familia con suerte
Female revelation:
Alejandra Garcia - Una familia con suerte
Carmen Aub - Esperanza del Corazon
Laura Carmine - Ni Contigo Ni Sin ti
Best song:
"A Partir de Hoy" - Triunfo del amor
"La Fuerza del Destino" - La Fuerza del Destino
"Un dia de Suerte" - Una familia con suerte
"Renedirme en tu amor" - Dos hogares
"Te dejare de amar" - La que no podia Amar
Best script (original or adapted):
Dos Hogares
La Fuerza del Destino
La que no podia Amar
Truinfo del Amor
Jarocha
Jarocha
As to the contract -- if there is such a stipulation -- it is obvious that something is working. I absolutely believe that all parts are in working order, but if such were not the case, there is a procedure that could extract sperm. It was described in a Law & Order SVU episode called "Design." One character had commented "Who thinks up this stuff?"
Sebastián Rulli was up against Fernando Colunga, a big name who was in a novela with a moderate success in Mexico and a huge success elsewhere, especially the US. That's why Rulli didn't win even though he absolutely deserved it.
Jarocha
I was a total sucker for the sweet Rogelio/AP scene at the beginning. I love the sweetness in their chemistry, and Rogelio's tears sealed the deal for me on this one :)
By the way, earlier this week I posted the link to a blog that hosts all of the LQNPA episodes thus far, and I made quite a discovery...
http://www.primiciatv.com/ links up not only to the aforementioned La Que blog, but to episodes of quite a few other tns as well including Abismo de Pasion (with Angelique Boyer!). They even have episodes of La Voz Mexico which I've been looking for online FOREVER. So excited about this!
AnotherAmy
Interesting that Jorge Salinas is in the "best actor" category and Jose Ron is in the "best supporting actor" category.
I think that the producer of this show likes to jerk our chains, but I find it doubtful that he'll give AP to the "supporting actor" and give the heave-ho to poor Rogelio (and to poor JS). I agree, he likes playing mind games. LOL! We'll all just have to wait and see.
As for Rohell and his "usefulness" in bed, I still can't get the screenshots I took in Wednesday's episode out of my head—Rohell was bursting at the seams, ready to consume the Cupcake. He's more than willing to . . . do whatever he's able to do . . . the only thing that's holding him back is Cupcake's innocence and her not being ready. I can't believe he'd be wooing her as vigorously as he has been if he couldn't follow through in some way or another.
I don't think there are any viruses or anything, but since I have a Mac I can't make sure. But I doubt there's anything nefarious on that forum. It's just full of a bunch of Russian (and other) fangirls who love telenovelas.
I think they can oly possibly win best villain for Romo (unless Wilkins pulls an upset) and best song.
I think Salinas has the award in the bag and possibly Ana Brenda too (her fellow nominees are pretty weak).
Jarocha
Jarocha
Once again, Marcelo Cordoba has been overlooked. Jose Ron doesn't deserve to be in the mix, IMHO. Sorry, JR Fangirls.
Eduardo had nice hair and a wonderfully sweet smile there. I thought somebody had tried bringing back Timbiriche last year. Maybe the group just had a similar name. He is definitely in his element when singing and should have possibly stayed in that venue. I was so taken with him when he performed in FELS as the nightclub's star attraction.
Can't wait for tomorrow's episode!
Thanks so much for putting up the nominees. Was CME nominated in no catagories or was it a nominee last year?
I am shocked that Susana G. wasn't nominated. She seems to just light up the screen with her acting talent. At least (so far) Cinthia seems to be developing into a big, meaty part. That girl is running through men like I go through linen hankies when I have a head cold. She is one confused sister and I really like watching her act.
Thanks, Jarocha, for explaining that discrepancy.
EJ
I absolutely believe that all parts are in working order, but if such were not the case, there is a procedure that could extract sperm. It was described in a Law & Order SVU episode called "Design." One character had commented "Who thinks up this stuff?"
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If they won't come up with such an idea, in case they will ever want to have babies together, it will be even worse since AP supposedly IS A NURSE, who graduated with flying colors.
I also find Wilkins to be better than Romo in this case but if the judges voted for Romo over the much more deserving Daniela Castro for best primera actriz two years ago I don't doubt they will vote for her again against Wilkins. Especially considering that this is the only acting award were Triunfo could be a real contender.
Sad to see Marcelo didn't make it into the final nominees. He was prenominated.
Abismo de Pasión is the remake of Cañaveral de Pasiones and it has been pretty successful in Mexico. The 9 pm timeslot, usually the most important, went down to second or even third place (behind the 8 and 7 pm novelas) with Triunfo del Amor and then Dos Hogares kept it down. Abismo recovered the timeslot and it's now having pretty decent ratings. Televisa is very happy with it.
I think Univision plans to air it in the US too but they also wanted to give their own production El Talismán a timeslot. So they only had one opening in December because they knew El Talisman was coming, and, since Abismo hadn't air yet in México, they had to pick La Que No Podía Amar (which was also a success in the 7pm timeslot in Mexico).
I think Abismo will probably start in Univision after LQNPA or El Talisman, depending which one ends first.
The story of Abismo is about a group of childhood friends in a small town in Yucatán, whose lives end up affected by a tragedy that separates two families where the parents used to be best friends. A love quadrangle develops and many lies and intrigue make things hard for everyone. The main leads are played by Angelique Boyer and David Zepeda but Mark Tacher and Livia Brito also have very important characteres.
Boyer's character this time is good and nice although she is a little jaded due to a harsh upbringing. Raquel Olmedo is also in the story, except this time her character cares alot for Angelique's. So no big slaps like in Teresa for them here. Just scenes of sage advice.
Jarocha
TdA...best telenovela and best script?! REALLY?! This was a hack job by the end and a TOTAL disappointment.
I don't know about these "Premios". Rulli was robbed last year. I just don't get it (yes, I know and understand who Fernando Colunga is). Absolutely and totally robbed.
I am laughing at this nomination of TdA. A joke...a pure joke.
It will be good to see her again.
Now I tune in to the Food Network for Worst Cooks In America. Always good for a laugh.
Jarocha
Jarocha
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Also, I wondered about CME for last year after posting, so thanks for clearing that up. I do hope Abismo is shown up here because we need a blockbuster for the last hour up here.
AP and Bruno were absolutely riveting together in the scene in which she discovered Gus' stuff. Her desperation coupled with his malevolent self-satisfaction ("Bruno fights back another evil smile") were breathtaking.
Add me to those who are glad that AP didn't follow Bruno's instructions to keep quiet.
I guess that I was less disturbed than most here by her assault of Rog. It's not like he's particularly fragile. He actually would have better upper body strength than the average man. Wheelchair athlete's are amazingly durable.
So Gloria's gone? How convenient.
Carlos
They should send Bruno back to Eva Luna and they should kick him back to Sortilegio where he wasn't such a menace, but ended up dead.
Sara--if you check in. Were you watching CME when we discussed Silvia Navarro's movie, Labios Rojos? I just had to have it--guess who plays her hubby, yep, Jorge Salinas. It's a comedy, so it'll be fun to see him cutting up.
Anita
Did I really hear Rogelio ask Paula if she was disturbed by his kicking in bed... Paraditas? That's one good thing about sleeping with a paraplegic.
Rosemary la Otra
You all may think LQNPA is moving into some unbelievable story never-never land, but it's nothing like the stuff they have been feeding us over at El Tal.
It's a good thing we over there can take a joke.
About cositas and babies. Didn't we hear Rogelio specifically state during the picnic scene to AP--that of course you know I can't have children. What we don't really know is whether he is referring to being sterile only, due to being trampled, or being impotent as well from the paralysis. (Remember Jon Voigt in Coming Home?)
Speculation: He's lying--which I don't think he does.
Or, that's what he's been told and he believes it.
Or, that's how it is right now, but he'll could possibly be ok later (after some surgery maybe).
Or, IT doesn't work right and he doesn't have a prescription for the UP pill.
Or, IT works, but he knows AP isn't ready yet for doing cositas.
Pau didn't seem bothered at the prospect of no children together because she immediately named Margarito as potentially their first child and then added some more adoptions. That was such a sweet scene.
Anita
We all know better than that.
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