Caray, Caray!

ot: Carlos, here is a link to the ep 119 of LHDM, int'l version. here is where it begins to deviate from the other one. (they don't get to crawl under stage)
 

Super Marta, first off Thank You for doing tonight's recap. Great title and I love your Kat and Joust themes.

I agree that this episode had some interesting elements that are setups for future actions. Thank goodness the boring Great Ball took a very interesting turn when Pigorio announced that Elvira had been his lover. He proved he is real trailer trash wannabe in that scene. He is no better, actually worse, than Elvira and Renato. Speaking of which, it will be fun to watch Elvira and Renato "play" each other.

Wasn't it fun watching Camila sting LooKrazy? That was a moment of brilliance that seems to have died on the vine so to speak. We'll have to see how this plays out. Also, she is really forcing Antonio's hand. Will the kids actually accuse Gregorio? As stupid as this telenovela is I can't wait to see what happens next.

Pedro seems to have stayed awake for tonight's episode. I wonder what happened so that he is suddenly (somewhat) engaged in the dialogue?

Favorite line: "she plays an uncomfortable high school girl, worried face, closing eyes and staying as stiff as a wood log." Uh, definitely!
 

Thanks muchly, Super Marta, for your hilarious rundown of tonight's epi!

When I realized that I could finally get back to beloved telenovela'ing, in order to narrow down the field of what to watch, I simply went with the show with the least amount of epis on the site. Less to catch up on, heheh. And not only has El Tal turned out to be a hoot to watch and the recaps a hoot to read, a bunch of my past Caraymates are all up in the "koolade" in here too!

Hey, JudyB and Carlos! Cap'n Sylvia and Julia and Elna June and Novelera, to name a few... so good to see y'all.

Thanks again for the recap, dear Marta. So far the KRAZINESS that is LOO is my favorite part of the story. LOL Poor pitiful thing got straight busted for her scheme the same dang day she perpetrated it. LOL! Wow.
 

Marta-Thank you for a brilliantly themed recap. I loved loved loved the whole Kat and Mouse thing.

For some reason, I have a little more trouble understanding folks in this TN (especially Los Jailbait) so I especially appreciate the recaps.

Was it just me, or did anyone else sort of snort when Red Minnie Viral told Gato Pengüino she could have some one richer and YOUNGER? ¿Qué, qué qué? Meester RenatHO is just as old as Gato Pengüino. Or am I way off base?
 

Grrr...pingüino. With an I.
 

I have some breaking news.

William Levy is going to be on this new season of Dancing With the Stars. Can't wait.
 

¡Qué emoción! I've never watched the show but I will now. Thanks for the news Cathyx. When will it start?
 

Sara-
I don't know, I think in the past it wasn't too long after they announce who's on it that it starts. Maybe a month?
 

Liked it, Marta?! I LOVED it! You are so funny. The nicknames you give people, the Minnies and Kats and Jousting Start and adding ElTal to the front of people's names, so hilarious.

Not as many fireworks as I was hoping for at the Guacamole and Grain (GAG) Ball but at least GAGorio can be counted on to act like the gutterdweller he is. At least our Kats and Minnies were socializing...no one else at the ball seemed to be!

Stephe! Hooray, you're back! You will fit right in with this Kool-Ade club, I'm sure.

I loved impatient Camila pushing Looker and Toned and not letting up. Nice to have our bold heroine back.

Last night on UFCS one of the characters went on a little "¡¿Qué qué?!" spiel and it really cracked me up.
 

Stephe!!! Great to hear from you again amiga. To quote JudyB, El Talisman is one "hot mess" of a telenovela. I hope you intend to hang with us for a while.

William Levy on Dancing with the Stars? I just checked and he is partnered with Cheryl Burke. Wow! Good news for him. They are going to make a hot dancing duo. Thanks for the heads up cathyx! Premieres March 19th.
 

Great; now I am going to have to watch DWTS. At least he's an actual star, unlike many of the "stars" they tend to have.
 

The cast actually looks pretty decent on this season's DWTS. Although on Levy's bio in the MSNBC article, they only mention the JLo video...they make him sound like a total nobody! Um, hello, he's had a lead role in HOW MANY long-running shows?
 

Super Marta indeed! Thanks so much for filling in.

With your re-caps I like to read and watch simultaneously. This makes for an excellent "study session". I have only gotten to the first commercial, but wanted to chime in before heading to work.

I love the whole Cinderella theme. "FGWW" lol.

So far, my favorite line is "Tracy is torturing Panchito with extrememly hot hot cocoa."

Just who was our Poison Tipped Arrow waving to upon arriving at the Gala? She doesn't run in that circle. She'd just come from Texas in the beginning and then she's been spending her time around UCDavis these last 2 or 4 years. Who did she know? Her hairdresser was there? The owner of Headbands R Us?

Not even Doris knew her. How odd.

I loved the script between CaMEEla and FGWW to catch Luc.

Then it was the commercial. Can't wait to finish our study session after work, Marta! Thanks again.

Sara - Love the new picture and tagline.

Rosemary la Otra
 

Thanks for pitching in an extra night Marta. Guacamole and Grain..what a word picture!
Enjoyed "Pedro is confused. What's new?" and your quips about noses growing longer.

"Bibidor"=womanizer confused me. I always thought it was "vividor". Those b's and v's are hard to distinguish aren't they?

QUEEN STEPHE!!!!! You're back. So glad you're here...was it the short time frame or Aaron Diaz' succulent abs that influenced your choice?

Whatevah...so good to see you again.
 

R la O -thanks! I'm feeling chippy lately lol. Also thanks for reminding me.

I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for my opinion on La Marmota... I liked her costuming for the GAG Ball (that is awesome btw)... I almost bought the idea that she was attrctive, but her hair was just plain. Basta ya with the headbands.
 

Sara, after seeing La Marmota's dress on the hanger I thought it would be much uglier. Maybe she had it folded in half because the hanger look was shorter and puffier, not the long sleek number she was wearing. She did look pretty hot. Gag at the GAG looked like he was going to gag when he saw her.

JudyB, now that you mention it I think the word does begin with a "v", vividor. I'll go back and fix it. Gracias amiga to you and your eagle eye.
 

Super Marta, thanks as always for getting the recap up so quickly! It makes a nice start to the day.

My favorite bits:

“Fairy godmother without a wand”

“Petro is confused (so what’s new?)”

“ordinary Ol McDonald rancher”

“Let CaMEEla even out her face”

“Petro tells her he loves her and kisses her…to mark his territory”

Julia, GAG-ball, so funny.

Sara, I have trouble understanding these folks as well. I thought I was just getting lazy and overdependent on my captions, but I went back and looked at a few other TNs and I understand them fine. It’s still frustrating, though.
 

Thanks Marta, this is great. Very funny. This show gets more and more endearing... In no small part because of you recappers.

Was that Gabriel and Sara in the Silverado? I didn't understand that scene or the reason for it at all. Did she have on a cat costume?

You have to give it to Lucrezia. She is not very effective but she is single-minded and relentless. I love her persistence not to mention her dedication.

Yea! Stephe's back. It's so good to hear from you again.

Gotta love the cops in Fresno taking a report from Tony based on what Camila told him about what Lucrezia told her.

Marta, I found that episode of LHdM... I'm so going to miss that show.

Carlos
 

On my way to work I drove behind a Jeep with a "UC Davis Parent" bumper sticker. It was not Elvira.
 

I haven't watched DWTS since the middle of the second year, when it kinda sucked wind compared to the first year... but they knew just how to GET ME BACK, huh. *Levy* *swoons and dies* *that million watt smile*

The way his clothes fit him every week will be the star of the show. Oooooooh.

*waving happily at Julia and Cap'n Syl* :D

In answer to your question, JudyB... it was both! Diaz's abs carried a LOT more weight though, don't let me fool ya. ahahaha
 

Carlos, I agree -- that Hallowe'en in the Front Seat scene was just bizarre. This time it was me saying QUE QUE QUE?

Maybe their strategy is to give us one completely irrational interlude per episode to make the rest of it look like it makes sense.
 

Oh thank you, Super Marta! This was one Monday that deserved the full Marta!

The cat and mouse theme, the GAG ball, the wandless fairy godmother -- so funny, so on the mark!

What are we to make of the kinky car scene between Sarita and Gabriel? Was that a cat suit? My stars!

Whatever el tal Pedro may say, he
has a weakness for LuCrazy. And Cami has an antojo for Antonio. Mix up P+L or C+A and far more sparks fly than when our bland P+C pair share a scene. But of course, the hottest coupling of all is still LA. What fun!

More later -- me voy me voy me voy ... al dentista. :(
 

Were Gabriel and Sara just promoting yet another use for a Chevy? No one told them that for their purpose, you need to park the Chevy up on Hoochie Hill, not in the driveway. Aren't they both adults with bedrooms?

We have some real mumblers on this show. Last night I had to rewind three times and then finally turn on the CCs to figure out what Gag said to Evil.
 

Hey, Carlos! :)

Yep, that's a solid police investigation right there when you use info that's been passed on and passed on and passed on like a good pair of shoes. Can't go wrong there LOL
 

Carlos and Blue Lass, I see we were all impressed by the Sarita in a cat suit scene. Maybe Julia is right, it's just more product placement.

Sara, Julia is right. They do mumble a lot on this show -- maybe the actors are embarrassed to say the lines aloud. It might help if we yelled at our tvs: ¿Qué? ¡¡¿Que qué???!!!
 

I think it helps to give the TV a good bofetada. Well, it helps ME.
 

Can't stop to read the comments yet.

Marta--Oh, shades of my teenage fantasies: I was all Horses and Knights in Shining Armor and Ladies tying veils on their favorite Jouster, Flags flying, Horses Pooping, FGWW holding her Nose and the Princess Tied up in Knots over her Gallant Defending her Love and her Pride, and last but not least, The Chore Girl with the Busted Face.

I didn't really care what went on at the Penguin Strutters' Ball.

I also had visions of another POP UP SLEAZE, but it was the wrong SLEAZE. How many times are they going to use that one on us.

Best scene: Camila and FGWW pulling a fast one on LookinKrazier and it worked--I didn't think she had it in her. It sure was quick thinking on Cammie's part.

Worst scene: Pedro being the one allowed in while LK was getting treatment. He's nothing to her. It should have been BRO going in with her. He sure sobered up quick, no?

More later,
Anita
 

This show gets more and more endearing... In no small part because of you recappers.
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So true.

Was that Gabriel and Sara in the Silverado? I didn't understand that scene or the reason for it at all. Did she have on a cat costume?
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Wasn't me in the Silverado, tho I bet Hubs wishes I had a car suit. Alas, I am merely catty. I agree that scene seemed weird and out of place.
 

Sylvia, I just Googled "William Levy" to show someone who he is and your name is on the first two photos that popped up. I didn't know the two of you were so close!

The teleFresno police are so terrible. Did they EVER investigate or even have a chat with Gag after he beat up Mariana and killed her baby? And now they're taking thirdhand accounts when the victim is right through the door and available to talk?
 

Carlos and NM, totally agree on the 'out of nowhere' scene in the silverado... but the cat suit served the purpose of calling the attention if so many of us mentioned it... and btw, the cat suit on Sarita is what made my mind about the KAT and Mouse theme of the recap... I was trying hard to find a nickname for Tia ... she always gives good advice but has no special powers so i thought of a fairy godmother without wand...

and yes, the police saying the had ENOUGH to go get Pigorio with the she tells them that he told her that she told him... i wonder how many motions to remove that statement that would get on Law and Order.
 

carlos, so sorry i forgot the link... but if you found it that's great. you will know that you have the right one if they don't get to crawl under stage...
and watch for the 'rata' analogy .. the last 3 eps are much better and fun than the first 2 of those last 5 in int'l version... but the remaining 3 of colombian version are much better in crossing all the t's and dotting all the i's...
 

did you all notice that they started the same habit they had on Eva Luna to put into commercials some relative talking to another about the novela?
 

Also they are now running ads for LA CASA DE MI PADRE -- fun!

Will Ferrell was supposed to be on Despierta America this morning. Did anyone see it? I assume he was interviewed in Spanish -- his Spanish sounds very good in the trailer, but I was curious as to how fluent he would be in real time. I wasn't curious enough to wade through a 4-hour DVR, though.
 

Julia, I emailed my sis to tell her one of my telenovios is going to be on DWTS, guess I wasn't lying!! (Cheryl Burke is her ex-student so sis is a fan of DWTS.)

ITA, what in the heck happened to the diction of these actors? First few episode were awesome, I could understand practically everyone. Now...nada! Add to that my CCs never work so understanding is becoming a bit of a chore. El Viral and Gigolo Kat are the easiest to understand.
 

By the way, Blog Mom Melinama has a good squidoo page on William Levy. The link is on the menu bar to the left.
 

Hail, Super Marta, saver of days:

I had so much fun reading your recap. Loved the Kat and Mouse theme and FGWW for Tia Doom and Gloom is a real keeper.
Some great lines:

-At the Kat and Mouse Ball, we see the red minnie mouse arrive at the arm of the Giggolo Kat.
-Tracy is torturning Panchito with extremely hot hot cocoa
-(are you falling back to confused clueless CaMEEla?? You had shown SUCH POTENTIAL all this episode…

and this whole section is wonderful:

"...she opens to ElTal Petro, but she is already mad… (did he wake her up from a nice dream?) he tells her they had promised to be totally honest so he is announcing to her that Traz Lookrazy is in da house… ElTal CaMEEla is not a happy camper and is not about to let ElTal Pedro be a softie with Traz Lookrazia."

Way to save the day, Super Marta!

Stephe, so great to have you back. This TN is the worst but the Caray crowd here is the most fun ever. We are having a grand time laughing and scratching our way through this plaga of a telenovela.


I thought Elvira looked great in her dress last night but the tiara headband—honestly it aged her 10 years. Sylvia, you are right, that slinky red/pink number she wore looked nothing like the red taffeta number she was flinging around the Only Hotel room.

Blue Lass and Sara: I thought my difficulties in understanding Gregorio stemmed from inattention or brain injury. I am glad to know (hee hee) that I am not the only one who has trouble understanding the Pig and his grandchildren.

EJ
 

So y'all are saying that was IT for the cat costume? I was looking forward to seeing where they were going with that. I thought maybe a young'ns party where Armani showed up and F1 and F2 would be there.

What were they saying? Rapido Rapido Salt Salt? Huh?
 

I am pleased to hear others find it hard to understand them. I was told the characters in CME spoke so fast, especially Renata, and that I would understand the next one more. Looks like I am 2 for 2 in hard to translate TNs.
 

Rosemary, now you are bringing me back to Picara Sonadora (dear rip Palomo and Mariana Levy) and Karate Kid movie, both had the 'guy' hide behind either a mask or a shower costume to be able to (in one case see the girl without anyone else noticing, in the other case see her but not let her recognize him)...
boy, when the sh hits the fan with Armani working both sisters at unison, there will be HELL to pay, but i hope they make it entertaining.
 

ITA with Julia:

Chevy Silverado equals product placement. That whole thing was not funny, brazenly commercial and just bizarre. What is the message here?

"See the USA, in your Chevrolet..." at night, in a cat suit in your bosses driveway? Color me confused.

EJ
 

Maybe they were trying to show the roominess of the Chevy?
 

That and something like sex sells: "Purchase this model and you, too, can have Sexy Kitties trying to ravage you in your roomy car. Sex-on-the-go for today's busy executive...or his employee who just happens to have an extra set of keys.
 

Bahahaha!!!!! Omigosh that's funny. I wonder if Chevy has to approve the product placement scenes...
 

Thank you Marta. I loved your recap, especially the two minnies. I typed 'ninnies' the first time - that would have fit also...

Didn't it seem strange that Camila and Gen were in bed asleep while the rest of Fresno was up and around? Even the two F sisters were lolling around like it was early afternoon. Is Camnia's job that exhausting?
 

You guys are so funny.

Emilia, how would you like your roommate to be standing 6 feet away from you, in the same room, arguing with her bf while you were right there sleeping. A little too cozy for me.

I looked up SAL and found it also means Bad Luck, so the last line of the Cat in the Truck scene was Hurry Hurry Bad Luck? Just trying to make some sense out of this whacko scene.

Hopefully tonight's episode will provide 2 days worth of talk for us. I hope something juicy happens.
 

how would you like your roommate to be standing 6 feet away from you, in the same room, arguing with her bf while you were right there sleeping. A little too cozy for me.

Sounds EXACTLY like my freshman year of college. Then the fire alarm would start blaring and I'd have to go stand outside in the freezing cold in my pajamas and coat in the middle of the night.
 

As much as I appreciate this novela’s sleazy mediocrity, I’m a little disappointed in the vocabulary. I always look forward to replenishing my store of colorful insults but what’s on offer here is flimsy -- child's play -- and I’m still waiting to be surprised:

Friday:
Pigorio refers to Antonio as un idiota
El Viral say Pedro is un degenerado
Camila refers to Pig as desgraciado and tells El Viral she is insoportable
On separate occasions, Pedro and Antonio refer to Pigorio as un salvaje
Antonio calls Lucrecia estúpida

Monday:
El V refers to Pigorio as el pesado* de Gregorio Negrete
She tells him he looks descompuesto* and calls him un rancherito corriente (a common little ranch owner)
Pig fires back by telling El V:
No tienes dónde caerte muerto.
Rita reproaches Renato because he’s acting like un perrito faldero*
El Viral tells Doris: Eres un cero a la izquierda.*
And a few moments later she adds: Vaya que eres patética
As already mentioned, Doris describes Renato as un vividor
Doris calls Elviral: buscona*
Pig pulls out the old chestnut muertos de hambre to describe El V and Renato

Most of these have obvious English cognates but a handful are worth a closer look:

*pesado is the past participle of pesar, to weigh. Here it’s used as a noun and it means “a jerk, a pain, a pest.”

*descompuesto is kind of nice. Literally “decomposed”, here it means something like, “You look like crap”.

*un perrito faldero a little lap dog. Falda, skirt.

*ser un cero a la izquierda: to be worth zero, just as a zero placed to the left of an number does nothing to affect its value: 5.0 = 05.0

*buscona is from “buscar”, to look for. I just learned it can be used as a synonym for “prostituta”. Buscón, the masc. form, can mean thief or crook. (well, I suppose you could use it in its fem form like this too. And either would work for El V)

I want more! (Does that make me a bad person?)
 

Hopefully tonight's episode will provide 2 days worth of talk for us. I hope something juicy happens.
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I bets even if it's dull as dirt we will find stuff to say. Lol
 

NM thanks for the vocabs!
 

I, too, have noticed that this show is light on the colorful language. Meanwhile we're getting OODLES of great words and phrases on UFCS. The vocab list I'm keeping has over 400 entries already, many of which are insults.
 

Technical question --

I'm using a PC and I usually have an option to get notified when new posts are added to a comment thread. Then I can see the unread comments in my google mailbox.

Now I'm not getting that option and I have to go back into the blog and scroll down all the comments to find the new ones.

Is anyone else having that problem? Suggestions for fixing it?
 

I can't wait to get to my laptop and add these new words.
Julia- I keep meaning to ask: every time someone gets mad on UFCS it sounds like they are using a verb esponjar or some such. Being the holgazana that I am I haven't gone through your fabulous list to find it. Is it there? I'm dying to know what this verb means. The CCs always say don't be sponged. But the context isn't right.
 

Oh for Petes sake. Its right there on word reference. I promise it wasn't there before.
 

Oooh NM. I didn't even know there was an option of getting notified when a new comment comes up. I would love that! As it is, I sit home weekends hitting Refresh, as Sara also admits to doing.

Thanks for that list! For a beginner like me it is plenty colorful. I have a hunch my husband knows what I am calling him when I say "Estupido". This gives me more options.
 

I, too, am missing my "notify" option. It disappeared yesterday. I now find it much harder to keep up with this delightful conversation.

BTW, "sal, sal" means "get out, get out" -- or, more properly, "leave, leave." It's the "tú" command form of salir.
 

... which is not to be confused with "salado", a word I often hear in Colombian novelas (it sounds more like sala'o). It literally means "salted" but in context, seems to mean something like "screwed" as in "out of luck".

Blue lass, I wonder if the Will Ferrell segment is on line. From what I've read, he actually doesn't speak Spanish at all and learned his lines phonetically. If I find the segment, I'll post the link.
 

Thanks Blue Lass. That makes more sense than Salt Salt!
 

And here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/7qwykvd

Will speaks in English in the interview and they translate it into Spanish.

P.S. Without my "notify" button, I am "sala'a"
 

"... and learned his lines phonetically."
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Isn't that how Bela Lugosi got his start? (Which doesn't say too much I guess since he never really broke out of the Horror genre...)
 

Oh, and thanks for the link NM.

R la O-- Weekend Refreshers unite!!! (PS: Have I told you lately that I love you in a non-creepy way?)

One day I will learn to put all my thoughts into one comment as opposed to spamming the thread. -_-
 

Thanks for the link, NM. I'll watch it when I get home.
 

No tienes dónde caerte muerto
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Sorry to be dense. I am filing away my new vocabs on my google doc and I want to make sure I understand this one. Is he saying (loosely) you're so broke you don't even have some place to die?

Am I missing the obvious?
 

Novela Maven, the option to get email notification when new comments are uploaded doesn't seem to exist any more. I complained this morning on the blogger help forum and somebody told me that the only way to enable this "subscribe" option is to go into the blog template and change the comment setting from "Full Page" to "Embedded". Apparently the Embedded option is the only one that allows commenters to subscribe to follow-up comments. I emailed Melinama about it but I don't know if she'll want to change the commenting format or not. Up until now I've preferred the Full Page format, except now with the New and Improved blogger the wonderful "Subscribe" feature has disappeared. Sorry for blathering, I hope this explanation is clear.
 

Sara, that's exactly what it means.
 

Thank you, Julia!
 

Sara,
That's how I understand the idiom. It's pretty much untranslateable in any literal way -- it's just a way of scorning someone for being poor, as poor as a churchmouse, say.

Thanks Sylvia. I don't quite get it but I'll look at it later and see if I can make sense of what you're telling me. I'm pretty dense about these things.

R la O, Sara, Blue Lass -- de nada!
 

Hey Sara
Lots of lovin' but very little creepiness comes from you.

I caught some of your LQNPA the other night. Sexy as JS is, I would not want my daughter dating him and I hope Paula doesn't go back. Not many TN guys I would give my blessing to for my daughter tho.

One more hour and I can finish watching the Gala episode.
 

R la O-- I admit I would not like mi hija to date some of the Rohell we've seen... But ay! The Rohell of serenades and anillos chosen with love!

Right now tho practically everyone on that show is on my mierda list.
 

Novela Maven, short answer is there's nothing we can do about that lost feature unless 1) blogger decides to stick it back in or 2) our blog administrator changes the template (and the whole look of our comments page). For now we just have to live with it. Lots of people on the forum are not happy.
 

Ah ok, Sylvia. Got it.
 

Is everybody's comment page ALL messed up? All the comments are lined up down about 1/3 of the width of the page, the collapse comments button doesn't work, the print is too small for my old eyes. Fuss, fuss, fuss... Change is BAD!!!
 

Word. Emilia, what you might try is hitting Ctrl+ which will at least enlarge the print making it readable.(Inversely, you hit Ctrl- to shrink it back down.) You don't need to worry about the Shift key or anything. You probably already know that trick but just in case you didn't...

-Sylvia, constantly hitting Ctrl+
 

Cool, Sylvia. I did not know that. Now, can you make it collapse the comments??
 

And while you are at it, Sylvia, let's get rid of the *#@&%! double blurry word verification. I think if you wrote them, in your Shakespeare voice, they'd comply with our wishes. lol
 

in my Puerto Rico, sala'o does mean screwed or 'S.O.L.' (sh out of luck)... as if someone is trying to gamble and someone tells them they are 'sala'o' that means they are NOT lucky today
 

New Word of the Day:
Sala'o: screwed / S.O.L.

Thanks Amigos, that's one we can all use at times!
 

Is it sala'a for una mujer? Or 'o for both?
 

Nope, can't get the comments to collapse either even though the prompt is there. Guess I'll have to get my Shakespeare Insult Kit locked and loaded! Those blurry Word Verifications are driving me nuts! I'm sure the Google engineers thought they were being oh, so precious with their little robot comment.

I love sala'o. I'm sure it's going to come in very handy.
 

rosemary, for female you dont need to repeat the a, lets see if this comes right...
salá
is enough
 

carlos, before you watch the int'l ending of LHDM make sure you watch the last 7 eps online, they are making MAJOR cuts to fit the last 7 eps into 5... just look for 142-147 'colombiana (mejor calidad)' on youtube