Wednesday, March 14, 2012
Abismo de pasión #2 3/13/12
Labels: abismo
Morning meetings will keep me from joining you all for comments until about 10:00AM PST.
Enjoy!
EJ
I can already tell I am deeply in love with this one. I love the theme song ... even if it comes in 30 minutes late. I am especially glad they are taking their time with this part of the story. The kid segment seemed sort of rushed in La Fuerza del Destino.
Hmmm. I think I am gushing. I better take my leave. :)
"Orangina" - Ay yi yi. She is a piece of work isn't she. Talk about someone who should be called "the witch". When she did her wide-eyed explanation to little Elisa, I love how the little one jumped back. Yeah, scared me too. Nut job...
Favorite scene of the night, Padre and Gael in the little mock fight they had. When Gael hauled off and conked Padre on the back of his head, just as Padre had done to him, I bust out laughing ( and scared the cat). I LOVE their relationship.
How the good Padre and Alfi came from the same parentage amazes me. He's a bit of a goof-ball, as Rene is playing him, but loving and sweet and she's...well she's a callous, bitter bitch who is way too full of herself. That preview with her trying to seduce Rosendo was a major EWWWW moment. No wonder he looks elsewhere...but man, he couldn't do better than Orangina?
Having good fun with this one...
Your sense of humor was on display throughout, particularly with "I call that a non-answer from a guy who still wants to get laid". Just wonderful. The recap was a treat from beginning to end.
I always enjoy the children who morph into adults all too quickly and these are no exceptions. Love all three of these interesting youngsters.
Sara - "A TN just isn't the same without a town priest and a town ho" had me smiling away. Especially, when the priest is Rene (he does holy well, liked him in FELS too).
daisy, thank you for noting the best scene of the night - the Padre and Gael. It seemed genuinely affectionate.
So happy to see the actress playing Ramona. Teresa's almost MIL. She has a great presence.
This is great. I'm in.
Elna June, you've made my day!
Diana
Like daisynjay I loved it when Lil' Gael popped him on the back of the head. I get the impression the two actors had a lot of fun with each other.
"Orangina"- yes! That Carmina truly is a nasty piece of work.
What was up with the intro halfway thru the show??? Looneyvision must be trying something new. Ack.
Sara - "La Que No Podia Mirar" LOL!
Oh and Univision- if you are reading. Opening credits go at the BEGINNING. That's why they call them OPENING credits.
I lol'd the most at "copper colored female".
Off to watch. Thanks for being my crutch!
Rosemary la Otra
These kids are so endearing. I guess we'll get to watch as their hormones kick in and they become as nasty/confused as their parents?
It's nice to see a priest having a loving relationship with a young boy without pedophilic overtones.
I liked your "I call that a non answer from a guy who still wants to get laid."
Great work. Thank you so much!
David
The actor who plays Gabino has creeped me out ever since La Reina del Sur. I guess he's destined to do so here, too.
I first saw Raquel Olmedo in Amor Gitano and have admired her work ever since. She's an excellent choice for this role.
Tangelo-ho Orangina is the real witch here. She has no morals and no sense of loyalty.
Watch Blanca Guerra's forehead; she has been Botoxed for years and you will see no facial expression to speak of.
I hope the kids put the pieces together and realize just who is having an affair with whom. Certainly if little Damian doesn't "get it" at this young age, he will remember it later in life and have a better understanding. Hopefully he won't be threatened to keep his mouth shut like little Lucrezia was in Mi Pecado.
How funny to see Nailea Norvind show up as the gossipy charity lady, since she played Alejandro C.'s (Agusto) wife in PVAA. I also think it's funny that Televisa casting seems to have pulled every single fair, blonde, blue-eyed actress, originally born in Europe, for this tn: Sabine (Germany); Nailea (Norway); Angelique (France); Ludwika (Poland).
You've already been complimented for "rude and greasy Gabino" and "I call that a non-answer from a guy who still wants to get laid" but I have to note my appreciation as well. Mother Goose is telling it like it is! Thanks EJ.
I agree with JudyB, I found it so charming the way you started this as if you were telling a fairy tale.
Gabino creeps me out. I suppose this means the actor is doing great but there's this sort of feral look to him that I find very intimidating.
" I also think it's funny that Televisa casting seems to have pulled every single fair, blonde, blue-eyed actress, originally born in Europe, for this tn: Sabine (Germany); Nailea (Norway); Angelique (France); Ludwika (Poland)."
Then the casting did well for the Bouvier :). The Faverman sisters in Cañaveral were supposed to be European and exotic to the small Mexican town they lived in, that was part of their attraction and the envy they caused in the Alfonsina character. Especially, of course, the most beautiful one.
Nailea's casting was just a case of having a great actress available I guess.
Jarocha
Yes the actor playing Gabino is way creepy and feral looking.
Rene (he does holy well...
awesome way to put it... that is one of the MAIN reasons i am sticking with this one.
Also loved orangina nickname and
" I also think it's funny that Televisa casting seems to have pulled every single fair, blonde, blue-eyed actress, originally born in Europe, for this tn: Sabine (Germany); Nailea (Norway); Angelique (France); Ludwika (Poland)."
hadn't thought of that, but very interesting...
Favorite scene of the night, Padre and Gael in the little mock fight they had. DITTO!! and the interesting twist on the mystery of 'who is supporting Gael financially, giving Padre Lupe money for his expenses?... any guesses from whoever has not looked at the extensive cast/character list?
I call that a non-answer from a guy who still wants to get laid"
daisy, ditto on
How the good Padre and Alfi came from the same parentage amazes me. He's a bit of a goof-ball, as Rene is playing him, but loving and sweet and she's...well she's a callous, bitter bitch who is way too full of herself. That preview with her trying to seduce Rosendo was a major EWWWW moment.
now have to go make sure my dvdr does not hiccup on ElTal so i can do a fast recap... then erase and save Abismo to do the recap tonight... i can't find any LaPola or LHDM eps to delete that i can't live without... on my dvdr so living on the last 80 mins worth, taping, erasing, taping, erasing again...
And add me as well...not sure if it was the greasy hair or the shirt obviously one size too small. Blech.
But I have to say, paunch or no, I still melt every time Cesar opens his mouth. That voice just melts butter...and with that I will try to concentrate and go back to work.
We must be soul sisters, I was calling Carmina "Orangina" last night. However I think Tangel-ho is way funnier, just not as easy to say. Mr. Sharkbait asked me what was wrong with her face. I told him "Nothing, she's evil, she's supposed to look like that." Mr. Sharkbait said he thought her name was Carmina because it looks like she uses cochineal (aka carmine) for her makeup. I can't wait to hear more nicknames that the clever Caray Commenters come up with for her.
I really like Isaura Espinoza, the woman who plays Mara the secretary. It's fun seeing more familiar faces. And Eric del Castillo as the old guy, woot! I always like him.
My favorite EJ Quote of the evening: "I call that a non-answer from a guy who still wants to get laid." Bwahahaha!!! Spot-on as usual, my dear. Yes, I know it's already been mentioned but it is so brilliant I couldn't resist saying it again.
Vivi, interesting comment about all the Euro types on this show.
Add me to the Gabino non-fan club. Great casting as he totally creeps me out with his gross hair, too-tight shirt (can he breathe?) and his tongue always lolling around the bottom of his jaw.
Marta, are you really going to do an El Tal recap??
Also, good explanation about the exotic appeal of the European Bouvier women (Carmina, Estefania and Elisa). Makes sense, and yes, good casting.
Sara, so glad you enjoyed the recap.I have really enjoyed the children's scenes—they seem so real to me. It sees to me that taking the time to properly tell the backstory of the children allows us to bond more easily and thoroughly with these characters. Already we have seen Damian's vulnerability to his parents messy marriage and even his child's attempt to fix it (the amulets). So poignant.
Daisynjay: I too loved the scene between the boyish Padre Lupe and the boy, Gael. I was just too tired to do it justice. I am very glad you and others teased it out into the open with your comments.
Diana, so glad you enjoyed the recap! Doris, the mid-point credits and song are very confusing to me, especially as a new show starts. I sort of use the opening credits to remind myself of who people are and teh major conflicts of the show. It's too weird doing them half way through.
There is nothing wrong with your fine brain, dear R la O. Without context I miss so much in conversations.
Eye-goo right back at ya', amigo David. No one has ever said that to me before. I feel so...flustered. So glad to see you on the thread. Maybe you will be able to join us more often for some time in the "Pit". I adore your comments and perspective. How are those twins?
EJ
Marta - some shows are undeletable. I still have the CME episode where Regina tells Renata tu eres mi hija and the ensuing gulps from Renata. I just loved that scene.
Sylvia, there is a Tal link that's been ongoing for comments. Not sure if you've seen it.
Ooooo the actor that plays Gabino IS creepadelic. Can't wait to see how they update his style with the soon-to-be fast forward. Right now, with that sleeveless plaid flannel he looks like he stepped straight off the set of 'Deliverance'. Shiver.
UA—OK, now you will have us all on Botox-watch with Blanca Guera—too funny!
Vivi: I LOVE your photo in front of the Pyramid and I am so glad to have you back for this TN. I always think of you and your phenomenal memory when I am trying to organize telenovela data into a recap. It's a lot at the beginning of a new show—I wish I remembered everything like you.
I am so glad you commented on the casting. It seems so odd that everyone looks so European. Aren't we in the Yucatan, with its rich heritage of language, tradition and great civilizations? Where are the brown skinned people who might remind us of the rich Mayan culture and language? Such a proud heritage to showcase in this telenovela...
Glad to have your explanation, Jarocha, on the Bouvier family casting. I do look forward to hearing more about the local (Yucatan) rich traditions in the future. Like Veracruz, Merida/ La Ermita has such wonderful history to explore.
Thanks JudyB. So true that our TNs are fairy tales for adults.
EJ
Robey
Actually there are other 'karst lanscapes' in the world, but the cenotes with their clear fresh water on top of heavier sea water are truly unique and so beautiful. I had a chance to see a number of cenotes on a long-ago trip and they really knocked my socks off. They "feel" like magical places and it is easy to understand why they were considered sacred to local people.
EJ
It was certainly weird to get home to the schedule change, even though I expected it. Luckily we walked into the house just before the Passion Pit Premiere so I was able to record it. I'm kind of bummed that El Tal got relegated to Hour of Shame especially since it finally seemed to get better. That's probably only temporary though. Who said it is like a spoof on a telenovela? I thought that was a very accurate description. Anyhoo, I am still watching El Tal. I love that we will continue to post headers for discussion because it's just so much fun to dis. So I guess I'm not relieved, not jubilant, and a little disappointed. However I am Very Happy that the recapping team stayed together for Abismo, not to mention the bonus of adding Sara to the lineup. So all-in-all, a net gain.
Back to Abismo, the little kids are the best part so far. They are all so fantastic, not a dud among them. I'm impressed at the way they interact with the adults, it's just so very believable.
Blanca Guerra plays Alfonsina. Botox or not, she is an incredibly beautiful woman. I don't think I've ever seen her in anything. She is so good in her role, she's obviously one of those "old pros" that kick these telenovelas up a notch.
EJ - yes Gabino, especially in the intro w/the gun(played in the middle of the show) looks like he is from "Deliverance"
She played Alejandro Camacho's wife in Alma de Hierro, where Angelique Boyer played their daughter.
Jarocha
Erick del Castillo played Ludwika Paleta's father in Amigas y Rivales and Niña, Amada Mía.
He was also in La Mentira with Blanca Guerra. He played the uncle of his real life daughter Kate del Castillo and Guerra played her mother.
Jarocha
"Now the four families of La Ermita did not always divide as neatly as was just laid out by your recapper. And in tonight’s episode the adults of this story will mix it up in interesting ways.",
... and oh boy, didn't they?
I really had a moment of deja vu with the scene of Damien watching his father ride away after his tryst followed by Carmina's little chat with him. I could swear I've seen that very scene before with different actors... although Carmina seemed nicer than the woman in the one I saw before.
Carmina surprising the Padre cracked me up. Since she is not Catholic, I wonder if she will be able to use a confession to cover her butt.
I think the first time I saw Carmina was in La Madrastra (the padre was her exotic husband) and I was mesmerized by her eyes. She ha bee a favorite of mine ever since.
I'm really impressed by all 4 kids and hate that their characters will be growing up all too soon.
I'm always glad to see Eric del Castillo. I have never had a problem understanding every word that he and Cesár Evora say.
Carlos
I am having a problem clicking through from the right hand side of the screen to the El Tal discussion feed and all the recap feeds. In other words, I can't access anything that is not on the main screen.
Anybody else having a hard time with this?
EJ - I just posted to "ElTal" without any difficulty.
sf chica bonita
Sylvia, I agree: Tangelo-Ho, takes a bit of effort -- but really, isn't it worth it?
We KNOW the woods (or should I say, the pits) are full of monsters. But right now with the four innocent [and LIKEABLE!] kids, kindly Padre Lupe, the beauteous, wise and kind Steffie, gruff but benign Ramona, I am lulled into complacency.
I'm not looking forward to having the narrative rug pulled out from under us. I'm just glad that when it happens, all of you will be around to lend mutual support.
I am so sorry to hear about your day.I finding breathing and wine each to be a great help after dreadful days.
Wishing you a better evening and tomorrow.
EJ
It's really weird. I have cleared my caches and cookies, restarted my ever trusty MacBook Pro and...nothing, I can't get anything to open that has a link on the left side of the page.
So odd...Stuff like this usually happens when a cat has walked across my keyboard. That's it. The cat did it. Oops, now I sound like Pancho Lopez on Una Familia...
EJ
http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default/-/Talisman?max-results=300
I am so sorry about your day. Ghastly is, well, just ghastly. There is no better word.
Here's wishing you access to a good bottle of wine and a hot bath.Also, we have the treat of a double recap offering from Marta and Anita on ElTal.
Thanks for your kind words.
EJ
Nope. Cut and pasted the URL and had the same problem. I am using Firefox. It just redirects me to a little dropdown box asking if I want to put the URL into the Bookmarks Bar?
My reply to the browser. "No.I do not. Just open the link, will you?"
R la O, I remember you talking about having this problem the other day.
Grrr,
EJ
This sidebar thing is so frustrating. And to think we use to gripe about the double blurry word verification. It pales in comparison!
So I have finally caught up with Abismo recaps, and I have to agree with pretty much everyone:
the kids are definitely the best child actors I've seen in a tn (granted I've only seen 5 or 6)... and they actually have INDOOR voices. So refreshing! I love the little redhead who is also in CV... she's aDORable!!
Love Estefania, although it seems she won't be around very long... and I can barely stand to look at Carmina--it's so blatantly horrible. When she reaches up to touch her face with her visibly less-orange hand.... UGH!!
It will be sad to see the kids go, but I am anxious to get the protagonist drama underway with Angelique, Livia, and Mark... LOVe them all. David Zepeda really does nothing for me. (I'm definitely hoping for a happier ending for Mark/Alonso this time around!)
As for the intro halfway in, all of the Telemundo novelas I've watched have done it that way--I guess I just assumed it was a production company thing. I don't really have an opinion either way.
This looks like a promising one... hope I can keep up, as this is the fourth one I'm currently watching! Yikes!
AnotherAmy
I'm FINALLY able to watch all the current TN's thanks to HuluPlus/Latino! I haven't had cable in 2 years and now I can watch along with all of you :)
I started off watching El Tal but switched to Abismo when everyone else did.
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