Friday, March 16, 2012
La Que No Podía Amar #57 Thursday 3/15/12 The Woman Who Couldn't Admit to Being Jealous
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I liked, "she made her self-sacrificing bed and now she's gotta lie in it".
Rutillio was the big bad wolf and Maripaz was Little Red Riding hood. I wonder what that is going to lead to, nothing good I'm sure.
On my TV, APs and Vain's dresses were both orange, and until they were in the same scene together, I thought they might be the same. But Vain's was a polished cotton and had an asymmetrical construction, AP's was a matte silk.
I agree, Rohell was indeed a dumbass for allowing (and participating) in that Vainessa lip lock, but the Cupcake sure did look jealous, didn't she? And I don't think it can all be explained away by her being skeeved out because she and Vain are sisters. I think he kissed the Vain one back because he wanted to give Cupcake a "taste of her own medicine," since she was heaving big sighs over the name of Gustavo at the beginning of the episode (which prompted Rohell to flip his wig and break knick knacks , as you pointed out! LOL).
And this line was very funny: "Gus will be back to his chest-heaving scrunchy-faced alter-ego again." SO TRUE! LOL!
They bring up the thing about David sending the cops after Miguel in this episode too. Some of us have been having a discussion about what exactly went down with that.
We have heard Rohell say a few times that he called David off of Miguel, but that the cops came for Miguel anyway. It seems clear that David, in his desire to get revenge, goes ahead and decides to do this against Rohell's wishes. I believe a few eps ago he was telling his evil team that his lawyers assured him that the cops would be out to get Miguel that day. Why the decision to go after Miguel now, and not before, if Rohell's request was still valid and hadn't been rescinded?
Then in this episode, Rohell confronts David and says that he'd told David to back off about the truck thing. If Rohell hadn't rescinded the request to go after Miguel, I don't see why Rohell would: 1. be angry and accuse David of betrayal, and 2. be surprised that the cops came for Miguel. (If he hadn't rescinded the order, he'd have to be expecting the cops to come any old time, right?)
Myo--
May I say you have Gus' character down? Every recap you do you describe him to a T. I can never verbalize what I hate about him, but you speak for me.
And I love your "screw that I wanna see some hair pulling" line. My sentiments exactly lol
Yeah I think the Cupcake is jealous. Why would she walk off in a snit if she wasn't? I didn't like that kiss with the Vainy one and Rohell. He looked like he was enjoying it a little too much.
Agree with Emaire about Rutillio. I wonder what would have happened if Effer hadn't come by? Maripaz looked really scared.
Agree with Elvira and renata770 about the truck angle of this story. Noone really knew if he had recinded until last night.
Love the name Team Evil. They are truly evil. Rohell was right when he told the Vainy one she has a scorpion on her back now. The Vainy one has surrounded herself with vipers. It will come back to bite her in the end.
Sin is so gullible. Wait till she finds out her "friends" used her, as well as Gus being the Cupcake's old boyfriend.
I can't wait for Cupcake to find out who the Guscake is seeing. Maybe then she will stop whining. Dany gave her good advice, get over herself.
The Tia is really pushing it with Rohell and Cupcake. I bet Bruno tells her to give the Tia power of attorney.
So this wanting of the hacienda is about water. I wonder if the Team Evil will succeed.
AP might be a leetle bit jealous, but I think MOST of her ire was at the incredible lack of respect that Vainessa showed her and that Rogelio participated wholeheartedly. She's required to act like the perfect little wife in public, then why should she be subjected to such a public humiliation for a supposed wife. I would have been royally PO'd as well by such a rude public display.
When Rogelio claims he called David off - that was earlier in the series, when he was helping get Miguel out of jail. Then later he he demanded that David press the bogus charges. We did not see him call David off again before their last meeting when he no longer wanted David to do it, right before the police showed up. IMO Rogelio didn't get motivated to call off David again until AP was back at the hacienda. And I think Anita made a good point when David expressed surprise that the police hadn't already picked up Miguel. The "denuncio" had already been in the works for a while. So all David had to do was tell the police where Miguel was. That's why the police showed up so quickly - the paperwork had already gone through the system.
IMO if Rogelio had called off David a second time, before that last meeting, they would have shown it clearly. I don't remember him saying anything in his confession to María to indicate that he had told David not to follow through until that last minute when David was chiding him over the request.
Audrey
I'm waiting for a serious confrontation. I was hoping that Vainessa pulling this move would do it, but I guess AP needs time to realize she is jealous.
So why is she still trying to convince herself that Rogelio had anything to do with what happened to Gustavo?
And there is no way Vainessa would ever get Rogelio back if she shafts his water supply. That will also help alienate Sinthia from Gustavo. But that would probably fit Vainessa's agenda because that could leave Gustavo free to pursue AP.
Yes, she may be somewhat jealous, she's always been attracted to Rogelio on some level and I'm sure his constantly begging after her has been great for her ego. But I think her pride has her most livid for reason b). (and with her sister, no less, LOL!)
Yeah, I loved Rogelio saying "I love my wife. Don't you dare do that again!" to Vainessa after he participated like that. Unfortunately, all he has done is convince Vainessa that she's right in thinking he really wants her.
Audrey
Did Rogelio actually enjoy that kiss? We really don't know and we won't unless he confides in Maria in tonight's episode. It's entirely possible that he was just hoping that AP would get jealous.
I have also been thinking about the money paid to MentiRosa by La Vipora:
-- It happened before Mariana knew she was pregnant, so that would be over 20 years ago.
-- If it was the proper definition of a "fortune" at least half of it has to be sitting in a bank somewhere. MentiRosa would have drawn suspicion from Mariana (or anyone else) if she suddenly had a closet full of Manolo Blahniks or a drawer full of designer jewelry.
-- She worked until the last few years.
Too bad Rogelio doesn't know about this. He'd have her number in a New York minute.
"…then she lays quite the liplock on Rogelio. And the dumbass participates quite enthusiastically, leaving AP to just stare at the two of them confused. Screw that…I want to see some hair pulling already!"
I agree with Audrey's assessment of Ana Paula's pique... a smidgeon of jealousy and a ton of ire.
My favorite scene was Efraín out-menacing Rutilio. Good job.
If AP is so Hellbent on finding out if Cynthia's Gus is her Gus, why doesn't she just show Roj Gus' voter ID and ask, "Is this the guy?"
Carlos
A few of my favorites were: "Hey, look who's sounding like big sister Vanessa" and "Rosaura says pimpin' ain't easy…". As always, you are on point and summarize things perfectly.
At first, I thought Rog was responding to Vain only to upset Ana. However, he held her face to his and the look on his face afterwards left no doubt he felt that kiss deeply. A minor flash of guilt perhaps but still...Unless Rogelio is as good an actor as Jorge, he was definitely into her, if only momentarily.
I think Ana experienced shock at the kiss with a tinge of jealousy. I would have been in there in a flash and pulling Vain's hair would have been the least of it!
Gus loves Ana so much, he decided to wait a New York minute before deep lip-locking Cin. Blech.
Emarie, loved your noting Rut was the wolf and Mari - little red riding hood.
Great comments all.
Diana
Diana
I'll give the obvious answer: She is still operating under the assumption that she needs to "protect" Gustavo from Rogelio, and for that reason she doesn't want to give away his identity.
I don't really blame Gus for being incensed that AP wanted to know who he had been dating when she wasn't divorced yet. LOL! It sounded pretty funny, because, yet again AP doesn't come out with the whole story all because she still feels she needs protect Gus. Not that Gus ever gives her time to speak or patiently tries to tease crucial information out of her.
Gus is always so eager to "move on" LOL!
Audrey
Just went to a talk on demographics yesterday. One of the big trends is, of course, "the browning of America." The Hispanic community is the ONLY community in the U.S. with fertility rates to replace themselves (2.1 kids per family).
Audrey wrote:
"When Rogelio claims he called David off - that was earlier in the series, when he was helping get Miguel out of jail."
Not necessarily now. Why would Rohell act so outraged with David (and about David) if he'd known that he hadn't called off David this time? He's not talking about old history, he's talking about the most recent history when he says that David "betrayed" him. It just doesn't make any sense otherwise. Rohell would have no one to blame other than himself if he had "forgot" to call off David. Rohell doesn't strike me as someone who "forgets" about something like this.
" Then later he he demanded that David press the bogus charges. We did not see him call David off again before their last meeting when he no longer wanted David to do it, right before the police showed up. IMO Rogelio didn't get motivated to call off David again until AP was back at the hacienda. "
We don't know when he called off the cops. It may have been when Cupcake got back, it may have been earlier, when Cupcake was still missing, when Rohell laughs about how Miguel is destined for the carcel, and Maria seemed really horrified by Rohell and tells him so. I wonder if perhaps it was then that Rohell had second thoughts and called off David—but we don't really know when.
"And I think Anita made a good point when David expressed surprise that the police hadn't already picked up Miguel. The "denuncio" had already been in the works for a while. So all David had to do was tell the police where Miguel was. That's why the police showed up so quickly - the paperwork had already gone through the system."
Or, another explanation would be that David was taunting Miguel. The writers are just reminding us of what Rohell asked David to do when Cupcake was gone. And perhaps seeing Miguel there gave David the idea to restart the charges.
"IMO if Rogelio had called off David a second time, before that last meeting, they would have shown it clearly."
They should have, it would have been clearer had they done so, but they didn't. However, it simply doesn't add up that he didn't. I don't believe Rohell simply "forgot" to call off David, and it doesn't make sense for him to not give a darn if Miguel is taken in, but yet at the same time feel soooo guilty and actually lie to the police when they actually come. Rohell's actions and reactions have been of someone who had no expectations that the cops were coming. Since I can't believe he "forgot," then the only other explanation is that he's been telling the truth when he confronts David (and in what he says to Bruno), "I asked David to do it and then I told him not to." Now granted, it could be interpreted that Rohell was talking about the first time he asked David to do it (before the marriage to Cupcake) but still, why the outrage? He acts so betrayed and David is acting like he's done something that he knows Rohell doesn't want.
Gracias for all the feedback, especially since this felt like a lackluster recap to complement the lackluster episode. Good to know I can still get a few zingers in even in the midst of my boredom! I snark on autopilot :D
"She is still operating under the assumption that she needs to "protect" Gustavo from Rogelio..."
Thing is, doesn't she believe that Rogelio already knows full well the identity of her Gus?
Carlos
LOL, so true! We need to wear our beanies with a lot of this stuff.
I also can't figure out why Cupcake is so determined to believe that Rohell called for the beating of the Gustavito when Rohell is so obviously in the dark about who the ex-novio is. She needs to put her thinking cap on.
Hate.my.anti-Spanish.state.
I, too, am not watching right now because AP is soooooo annoying me. It's less painful reading the recaps (which are always fabulous) than it is to actually see it happening before my eyes. I'll probably wait until Gus actually shows up to Hell-Fuerte and AP gets her comeuppance before I'll start watching again.
(small a anita)
Emarie wrote: "Now, if she was really in Lovrln with Gus, she'd be pleased and might even use the occasion to point out to Rohell that he still seems to have feelings for her so go for it."
SO TRUE. How he acted could have easily been interpreted as her ticket outta there. She could have pulled Vainessa aside before this and told her to go for it, because she (Cupcake) was desperate to get outta there and reclaim her little Gustavito. But no, the Cupcake is super celoso instead. Now of course some of it is probably her general distaste for Vainessa, but not all of it. Even taking into account how much she dislikes Vainessa, I'd think her twooo luuuuuve for the Gustavito would have overridden that and she would have still wanted to encourage Vain to go after Rohell, had she felt no tinge of jealousy at all.
Both AP's and Vainessa's dresses did look similiar in fashion and color.
Anon 12:25 I completely agree. AP is a hypocrite. She broke her marriage vows and slept with another man yet acts self righteous about Rog kissing his ex. Please. I'm still a Rogeliana but I'm more on Team Rog than anything else.
I believe that you are incapable of creating a less-than-delightful recap. The episode may have been dull and you may snark on auto-pilot but the resulting recap was, to me, a delight.
Thank you.
The truck, the truck, my kingdom for a truck...I am so glad this discussion is continuing. It really seems very important to the ongoing plot that we know just what Ana Paula is going to have to forgive Rogelio if the Rogelianas amongst us are to have their way. Smile.
I have really appreciated today's "truck" comments by Elvira, Renata 770, Madelaine, Audrey, et al. To add to the discussion...
Audrey said-
"IMO if Rogelio had called off David a second time, before that last meeting, they would have shown it clearly."
Still, my friends, isn't the real problem here the idea that Rogelio believes that he can turn on and turn off other people's behavior at his will? Who is he to "call off" David, a grown man and a rotten one besides? David was a business partner of Rogelio's, not a "dependent" like Efrain, Hugo, or even Cinthia. Bruno acts like a "dependent" even if he has a profession—it seems like Hacienda del Fuerte is his main client.
Rogelio is still responsible for his original, vindictive, impulsive act to lie about Miguel's behavior in order to serve his own selfish interests.
AP may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but when she figures out what happened here, I don't know how Rogelio is going to 'splain his way around of this one.
EJ
ITA. AP must believe that Rogelio knows who Gustavo is.
The alternative is, in her little pea brain she thinks he hired thugs to beat up random strangers in the hopes that one of them might be her boyfriend?
Beanie needed, ASAP.
EJ
Oh yeah, and Maria rightfully ripped him a new one over that. And I agree that Rohell is "to blame" for planting the seed in David's head, to do this to Miguel at this time. Rohell may have called David off a while ago, but the original idea to do it was a collaboration between Rohell and David. Rohell must pay for that eventually.
Whatever went down, it's clear that David is doing this now to screw over both AP and Rohell. Rohell has no control over that. But in defense of the old turd, he clearly no longer wanted Miguel to go to jail. He'd had second thoughts, had "repented." I don't think it's "fair" to flay Rohell endlessly for something he started to do (but didn't), since we all know of times where we've been in that same position. But at the same time, it demonstrates what total douchebag he was/is to even come up with it in the first place.
Now I would find Rohell more sympathetic had he had his second thoughts when Cupcake was still on the lam (i.e. had told David "don't do it" while Cupcake was still missing). But we don't know when he asked David to not do it, only that Rohell is saying (and acting) like this is not something he still wanted to have happen, and furthermore, is something that he had no expectation would happen. That counts for a little bit, at least.
Oh, right, little brain, um snafu, on my part. Or maybe she is having her doubts so doesn't she want to bring his name up directly. Whatever!
I agree, AP is dumb! (like many young TN protagonistas). And I can see how Rogelio would be attracted to her beauty and bravery and goodness. But the intellectual mismatch between them is huge and ultimately makes me doubt his attraction - at least in the long run.
Y'all are so right in pointing out that this was the perfect moment for AP to tell Rogelio "Look - it's obvious that you still care for Vainessa, so you should divorce me to be with the one who loves you." And a few days ago she would have done just that instead of getting all bent out of shape over the rude incident.
5ft, if that was you on autopilot, you are a master indeed!
Audrey
"You can't expect him to wait around for you for an hour and a half."
"Rosaura says pimpin ain't easy…"
I agree with those who think Rogelio called off David's siccing the police on Miguel. When Maria chastised Rogelio about using Miguel to get back at AP, he looked repentant. When the police showed up, he looked genuinely surprised. Plus, David had that "gotcha" attitude with Rogelio.
Agree Cupcake is both jealous and feeling publicly disrespected. I like the way she just upped and left him there. But why did Rogelio hold the kiss so long? My guess is he's still attracted to Vainy and it's simply been a long time since he had a spontaneous kiss.
Ugh, I have a bad feeling about Rutilio. I hope someone connects him to Bruno soon. Or that Gustavo runs into him.
Didn't figure Efrain would get fired. I wonder how Cin will take this.
"When Maria chastised Rogelio about using Miguel to get back at AP, he looked repentant. When the police showed up, he looked genuinely surprised. Plus, David had that "gotcha" attitude with Rogelio."
Yes, this. I also remember the same as you did. Maria chastised Rohell when he was laughing over that "idiot" Miguel, not knowing that the cops were gonna get him. After she was done, he looked repentant and that's when I wonder or suspect that he called off David.
And agree, David does have a "gotcha" attitude, like he knows this is not what Rohell wants or expects.
5ft's line about 'an hour and a half' was so true! LOL! Boy that Gus recovers fast! And it also brings up something that I found revealing in the episode. Cupcake says her sentence is now a year and a half, so that must mean the "penalty" for her going on the lam was the added 6 months, which she was harping on the other day. (She was complaining about the 'six months' and I wasn't sure if she meant six months in total that she had left, or six months was the penalty for escaping. I guess we have our answer now.) This presumably means she was gone for two and a half weeks or something.
We seem to be in one of those TN phases where the action is bogged down and the characters review earlier events so everyone can catch up in case they didn't watch from the beginning.
I'm sorta bored with AP's intransigent attitude. I'm ready for Gus and Cin's romance to be revealed to AP, so Guscake can drop off his pedestal and dent his sparkly corners.
La Paloma
I am SUPER excited about the Will Farrell movie!!! Maybe this will be his big break to get him into telenovelas :)
Vivi and susanlynn, LOVE Game of Thrones. They started showing previews for it like a year before they premiered the first season, and I was so mesmerized by the previews that I ran out and got the books (which are ENORMOUS and have about 500 characters and subplots, but are pretty amazing anyway)! The HBO series is just as good as the books, which is something I NEVER say about TV/movie adaptations. I'm so excited for the next season!!
AnotherAmy
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