Thursday, April 12, 2012
Abismo de pasión #23 4/11/12: an engagement party, a slapfest, a stolen kiss, a few broken hearts and a lot of ooohs and aaahhhs...
Labels: abismo
Wasn't too happy with our young galans last night. Gael, who I adore, made me want to give him one of Padre's head slaps last night. And Dam...can I say "YEAH ELISA!!" I know it was suppose to be a romantic moment, but when he grabbed Elisa for the kiss, I thought...Hey, you just put a ring on it with someone else, and you're making a play for someone else. I loved the way she told him just that, rather refreshing instead of being the blushing, gushing heroine. This girl has spunk from her year's of abuse!
But Assgusto--there is no excuse. How the blazes can that man show his face in that town? I mean, despite the fact he is hideous to look at. Betting is Gael was around, he would have decked him. Too bad.
And did I see the lightbulbs and twinkle fairies over Enrique's head as he looked at Flo? PLEASE tell me this isn't the pairing that may happen down the road...
My guesses is the beautiful horsie will be like his counterpart in Cuando--the trusted confident who can't spill secrets.
Oh, and one more suggestion: someone needs to open a dance studio in this town. (Though once they went to a slow dance, Paolo showed some nice moves.)
No need for me to sum up my feelings on the episode - daisy already did that and far better than I could have. Gael, shake off the notiion of what you think you want - love and devotion are staring you in the face! And Dam, you can't have your cake and eat it too! As others have said, he has not been fair to Flo and what he's doing to Elisa is simply cruel.
Elisa has overcome adversity and she will not be put down! My new heroine.
And Assgusto has secured his place in hell. I can't even stand looking at him any more. He and Carmina are the most loathsome pairing I can ever recall.
Off tomorrow, happy weekend all.
Diana
I was so angry on Elisa's behalf last night. Getting manhandled by Paolo and publicly slapped by Assgusto at the same party she didn't want to attend is more than anyone should take.
If I were she I would fake my own death and disappear to D.F. And show up in five years to show everyone up.
What is beginning to mystify me about her situation is how someone like Alfonsina can manufacture a bad rep for a girl like Elisa who can't be proven to be a mujer suela.
Thanks much Marta for the recap of a very exciting episode!
I thought Elisa and Damián were going to get caught at the stables - didn't the previews imply that? It was really a relief that they weren't.
Audrey
Damian was very selfish in stealing a kiss from Elisa just after breaking her heart, and he knows he did since he could see her tears... (was he mad at her thinking that since she was with Paolo she might be more of what Fina said? naah! he should know better, esp knowing Paolo)...
Elisa was right in not letting him explain himself, there is NO EXCUSE for what he did... what was he going to say? I just got engaged to Poop but I love you??
Gael... if you screwed it up with Paloma and she did not want you to accompany her home, why oh why did you leave Elisa alone with that jerk?.. and I agree, that if he had been around, AssGusto would have got a more stunning response to the slap, if he got to slap to begin with.
Elisa had the worst part of the night, and as you all stated, she was there only to do her dad a favor, not for her own interests which were to be as far away from there as she could... and what does she get for it? to be slurped by Paolo and slapped by AssGusto in front of everyone! more than ANYONE should take... my advice is let your dad sink himself and leave him, Elisa! you can move in with your godparents permanently!
Ramona seemed to be the only one right last night... other than Elisa.
Guido seems to be turning into a wishy washy guy, lots of warning but no action, and Paolo knows it.
Even Florencia/Princess Poop seems to be somewhat weak here, without the brain of Fina to plan the moves.
"I think when Toadhead arrived at the party, he actually mistook Elisa in that white dress for Estefania and that's why he decked her. And that's why Padre Lupe yelled out "It's your DAUGHTER!" because he realized what Assgusto was thinking/seeing."
now it makes sense what Padre yelled at him, and Padre knows what Estefania was wearing that night because he had to go there to get Gael... would he remember what Estefania was wearing?
If we have to put up with this character for the whole TN, why couldn't they have cast a decent villian-like actor like Sergio Goyri. At least we would enjoy his evilness (and he ain't bad in the looks department).
Both Elisa and Flo looked great last night. There seems to be no end to Alfonsina's scheming. What a mean b***h sicking Paolo on Elisa. Elisa seems to have them all figured out - she knows what they've been calling her, and she still resists. She is the strongest heroine I've seen lately.
At last we had the big kiss. Both of them were feeling it. Where did Damian think he could go after that? Elisa was right - man, you just put a ring on another woman's finger - what are you doing?
I was hoping that when Alfonsina put him on the spot that he would think of some way of finessing the situation - like recognize Florencia and tell the crowd that more will come later.
Oops - I forgot, he's supposed to be around 25 and that type of thought would have to come from a more maturer mind.
Gael - I still love you even though you acted like a boob.
"Would he remember what Estefania was wearing?" There have been many comments of Elisa's resemblance to her mother. So even if Padre Lupe didn't recognize the dress, he would have realized how very much Elisa looked like her mother dressed up like her mother used to do - sophisticated feminine dress, hair up, etc. And I suspect he had already guessed Elisa was wearing one of her mother dresses because she didn't have a party dress in her regular wardrobe.
Remember Estefania and Padre Lupe were very close, as Estefania was quite religiously devout. I bet Padre remembers a great many details about Estefania.
Audrey
As for our two boys...well, they were acting like just that last night. I agree with all of your assessments. Both Gael and Damian needed a slap upside the head for their caddish behavior towards Paloma and Elisa.
On the plus side, all of the ladies looked lovely last night-- Paloma, Elisa, Flo, even Fina.
Damian obviously had already asked Flo to marry him, that's why he came home - to tell his Mom. So why wasn't Flo already wearing an engagement ring?
I really disliked watching David Zepeda in LFDD, I found him quite unappealing. Yet he seems perfectly suited as the somewhat quiet, reserved Damián character. Of course it is likely the much better director. The way Damián kissed Elisa was far more refined (and hot) than how Ivan ever kissed Lucia which always grossed me out.
Audrey
Rest in peace Julio! Hope that you, Yolanda Merida and Pedro Armendáriz Jr. are having a great time up in actors' heaven!
ruh-roh! Now that Carmina knows there is a DNA test on the line, we in Viewerville just know the results will be skewed or else Carmina is busted in her brainwash-Augie plot of.
"Gabino is standing around as a bar bouncer waiting for the riot to begin…" BuaHahahahahaaaaaa! Loved your Project Runway comment, too!
" . . . and Damian sees that and is smoking fire out his nose remotely from main table."
Ooooooer! I'll bet he did his signature 'cara de raton', too.
Carmina and Doctor T need to get text-messaging plans for their cell phones. It would stop the "wrong number" rings, and we can wait for one of them can do a Tiger Woods and get busted.
Augusto me da muchisimo asco=
Augasco. I wish Carmina would morph into Lorena Bobbitt and 'take care' of him.
daisynjay - Pond scum is too good for Augusto. Augusto is the poo of bottom-feeding catfish that eat pond scum.
"If I were she I would fake my own death and disappear to D.F. And show up in five years to show everyone up." --- Good one, UA! That is in the Telenovela Rules as herone plan option B. ;-)
i remember his early years right around the CS movie... and his tv show with Topo Gigio, i recall Topo Gigio calling for him Juuliooooo!!! JUUUUUUUUliooooooo!!
and yes, he is one of those actors who matured and got even better while in his late years with the characters he played in last 10 yrs or so... most of the time a judge or some kind of authority figure.
Dr Avellaneda in Destilando, and many villain roles in other novelas.
His beautiful, beautiful voice with the clearest diction ever produced some of the most beautiful Spanish I have ever heard.
Thank you, Don Julio, for all that you gave us.
Diana, enjoy your long weekend. Yay!
Wow, that was some party. Why oh why can't Toadhead let his daughter be her own person? The guy is a sadist, pure and simple. She should get the heck out of his house pronto. Living in a tent on her tierras would be preferable to living in Toadhead's house of pain.
If I were Flo I would be itching to get out of La Ermita. From a normal person's point of view the locals, including her caddish novio, act like a bunch of crazies. Then again, maybe the Landuchis aren't quite normal themselves.
daisynjay, ITA with you on two counts: wish Gael had been at the party when Assgusto showed up, and the town needs a dance studio, lol.
Audrey, great observation about ToadHead mistaking Elisa for Estefania. That makes a lot of sense.
More later...
daisynjay, yes he was a real heartthrob as a young man and he retained his good looks as he aged.
Let me first say my goodbyes here to Don Julio Aleman. I posted about it yesterday on Familia as soon as I found out. I have a Univision Noticias app on my ipad so got the news as soon as they posted it. How sad that he had been ill for quite some time. I remember seeing him at an award show 2 or 3 years ago and realizing that he was super thin and drawn looking but of course his charm and elegant looks carried the day. Sad about Yolanda too. Another elegant talent gone forever. Alas.
Anyone else wondering if the caballo blanco here is the same equine actor that portrayed Silvia Navarro's Gitana in CME? Can horsies roll their eyes when humans get all stupid in the stable?
Thanks, Marta, for a(nother) great recap! You have an amazing gift for catching dialog.
I have to admit I was so entranced by the scene in the stables, I didn't even feel critical of the love befuddled lad...more like, Yessss, now you realize...it's Elisa you love. Go for it!
Clearly I would not make a good chaperone.
Now we have to sit back and let them work out these misunderstandings for a few hundred years, but that was a dynamite scene. Much hotter than those endless rose-strewn writhing in the sheets scenes IMO.
I hate his glasses. I hate his scarecrow hair. I despise everything about this character.
I suppose if Elisa left her home in the inmates of this dumpy little town would really have reason to call her a zorra.
Bump this guy off now.
"Augusto is the poo of bottom-feeding catfish that eat pond scum." Snort!! Darn, forgot to set my tea down for that one.
Dibs on JudyB as my chaperone!
Yesterday I was watching El Gordo y La Flaca and they were on set at Abismo talking to some of the stars. They were interviewing Augusto and I had a visceral reaction to the guy, whereas everyone else seemed so normal and pleasant, even Fina. Just goes to show what a great job the actor is doing with the role. (Angelique said her parents were staying in town along with a cousin from France. So sweet.)
Damian & Flo haven't congressed in a while.
Estefania's stuff is still in the house.
Disgusto pays Delores crap wages.
Enrique has the hots for Florencia (Ugh, I wouldn't put it past Flo to sleep with Ricky and pass the baby off as Damian's, since they have congressed in the past).
The great thing about Preds playoff games --- during first intermission last night, we had Michael W. Smith singing lead for some oldies rock songs with Small Time Rock Stars band (my favorite band during intermissions) http://www.stevemandile.com/STRS.html a/k/a Sixwire http://sixwire.com/. The guys are awesome. Last week, we had Ricky Skaggs. Last year, during playoffs, we had Alice Cooper, John Elefante, and I think even Felix Cavaliere singing with the bands during intermission. They just sort of show up (although I'm sure it's worked out ahead of time) . . . but we never know if and who will show up and we love it; which the min-concerts alone are worth the price of the playoff tickets. ;o)
Can horsies roll their eyes when humans get all stupid in the stable?
so true!
Thank you for recapping this annoying episode. As usual you got all the detail—I so appreciate your work.
Well, the network built us up for the big Damian/Elisa kiss and it took place only moments after Damian sullenly put the ring on Flo's finger. Gack, nasty.
Daisynjay: I think beautiful horsie is the SAME horsie as in Cuando. A nod to Vivi, if they can reuse the Pear Robe, then why not borrow the same white horsie?
Dance studio, Yes!
I 100% agree with Sylvia that Augusto is sadistic. Worse, he is martyred and sadistic, a really ugly combination. He is one nasty bastard.
EJ
How can we be dashed into nausea then soar into ecstasy in one segment of one episode. I love the scarecrow imagery for Disagosto. I am almost hoping Carmeany does mess with the DNA test report so Elisa might pack her bags and go live on her own lands away from the two most hateful people (Alphabitchsina making it a third).
I have to say that I loved this episode. They put events from two episodes of Cañaveral together and worked much better than I expected.
First, I have to say how much I lament Julio Alemán's passing. He was an icon for Mexican and dare I say Latin American television. He also contributed in films and he worked until the end, it's going to be so sad not seeing him in the ads for Perfume de Gardenias. Marta, I do remember him with Topo Gigio, I hope those who saw him as children will remember him too.
Now, onto the episode.
The music was flawless, I loved that they used a Son instead of the usual telenovela music that we get in those novelas from Mexico City. I loved the look of the Arango Hacienda, so pretty. And also the kiss scene with the white horse in the middle of all that red and both Elisa and Damián in white/light colors, that looked so beautiful. I think Angelli Nesma's productions tend to have an excellent taste for colors and settings. She definitely learned well from her years as an apprentice of Valentín Pimsteín.
They actually put together the happenings of two Cañaveral episodes and I thought that worked quite well.
The one change I noticed from the kissing scene was the same as I've noticed in Elisa/Damián scenes from the past. Both of them are much more aware of their feelings than their Cañaveral counterparts at this point:
-Damián wore his amulet around the neck while Pablo had it in his pocket.
-Damián was also so much more emotional in the scene and he seemed to have an urgent need to kiss Elisa while Pablo wasn't all that aware of what he was doing until he kissed Julia, he acted on impulse and was surprised by his own actions when Julia started going off on him.
By the way, this is the Cañaveral scene that was used in Mi Pecado (with some slight changes), if you have time and would like to compare:
Mi Pecado scene (unfortunately cut to the amulet showing moment, so it doesn't show much).
Cañaveral scene (at the end of the episode, the fallout from the kiss happened in the next one, but it was basically the same thing that we saw in Abismo).
Jarocha
" They were interviewing Augusto and I had a visceral reaction to the guy, whereas everyone else seemed so normal and pleasant, even Fina. Just goes to show what a great job the actor is doing with the role"
It's interesting that this is the second time Alejandro Camacho plays Angelique's father in a telenovela. The first time, in Alma de Hierro, he was very loving, although strict, and she was a good kid but she did give him alot of headaches with some of her mistakes. Now he is the one making her life difficult in this one. Blanca Guerra, who plays Alfonsina here, played Camacho's wife and Angelique's mother in AdH.
The only problem I can find with the horse being the same from Cuando is that Cuando was shot in Mexico City and Baja California while Abismo is shot in Yucatán. I wonder if it isn't easier to just find a white horse nearby instead of transporting the poor horsie all over the country.
Jarocha
Her fiance goes home to announce his marriage to his mom---without HER.
He had been in town for DAYS without calling her
He's not the one who sent for her, ALFONSINA is the one who brought her to town
They are allegedly engaged, yet he still has no ring. She has a hand me down ring from Alfonsina.
IMO their relationship was in trouble before Elisa even became a serious thought in Damian's mind.
I understand, she knows she's losing her man very quickly to this Elisa girl, that's supposedly such good friends with Damian that Florencia's never heard of her before. But all this pawing and clawing and clinging and tantrums is only going to drive him into Elisa's arms.
I really like the visuals on this show. They are similar to Mi Pecado and that is an excellent thing. The photography in that show was true art. Little things like a shot down a rainy street or the hoochie framed in the confessional screen were very striking. I'm seeing some of that same sensibility here.
Sorry, Daisy, it looks like Enrique and Flo will be grinding and groaning down the road.
I think this could be Gitana #2 from CME. Remember the first Gitana always acted naughty when Renata tried to snuggled? They have found a well behaved horse, and like the well behaved rats and the beautiful pear robe, I predict we will be seeing this horse repeatedly. Did we catch it's name?
R la O
I also want to add my agreement to Audrey's theory that Augusto was seeing Estefania in the dress as he marched toward Elisa and began to strike her. She must be in her late teens or early twenties right, so he wouldn't be in his right mind to snatch her away from a party even though she did sneak out to it. He and Alfonsina should get into a lucha libre ring and just bash each other into the next world. I'd buy a ticket!
first we have in previews Elisa telling Paloma about the kiss and possibly Paloma will tell Gael to try to get Gael to stop thinking of Elisa... which will bring the stare-off on horse scene and the arm wrestling scene... and maybe a bit of trouble for Damian at the procesadora if Gabino has anything to do with it.
I agree that Medusa will manage something to either get ToadHead to cancel the paternity test or she will manage to blackmail Inmundo into twisting the results to say Elisa is NOT Toadhead's daughter...
I'm glad other folks are enjoying the compositions, colors, lighting, creation of ambience, etc. from this TN. That stood out to me from the very start. This videography is pure artistry. I'm a serious amateur photographer myself, so I respond strongly to an artful presentation of images. The creators really care - you can see it in their work. It's a real pleasure after seeing a few ho-hum or garish productions.
Notice also, that they are presenting the area with the same loving care. The countryside. The fields. The beautiful traditional pueblo. We are seeing a lot of traditional Mexican dress - beautiful blouses, embroidery, etc. The Panama hats - yes - they are regional to the Yucatan (called "jipijapas"), so don't be surprised by Padre Lupe's dashing choice of head gear.
Audrey
Jipijapas? That's the name for those hats? Audrey, that is a very cool name and now I can't stop saying it. Jipijapa, jipijapa, jipijapa...
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