Caray, Caray!

sorry i goofed... Tonita tells her he came looking for Gael…
should have been
Tonita tells her he came looking for Paolo…
 

is it me or they are making David Z look like a true descendant of Cesar Evora? they look alike!

also, whats up with Princess Peach still wearing mourning black? the dress is beautiful but i find it odd she is wearing black still.
Also, that flowery black dress of Elisa must have a pound of spray starch to hold her boobies from falling out/over.
 

sorry one more typo..
Because she is daughter of MY Senora Elisa..
should be
Because she is daughter of MY Senora Estefania..
 

I guess the theme of the spaguetti western from EJ stayed with me, so i thought of Woody from TS.

I don't know if it would be worse for Elisa to hear from ToadHead that she is NOT his daughter or to be tottured day by day and not even know why her own father is turning on her like this...
 

Marta
Thanks so much for the recap. OMG can it get any darker for Elisa? The writers need to give us a little hope, for heaven's sake.

You are too right, Marta, Augusto's cutting words still hurt Elisa. O that, TOAD!

Now we see Paolo manhandling Elisa in the advances? It's just too much. arghh!

EJ
 

Hey Marta, super recap! Sorry there was some funny formatting on the recap. Stupid blogger was messing with my head.

Marta, I would never have understood that conversation between Damien and Enrique. Thank you for explaining what they were saying. It didn't make much sense to me. Actually, it still doesn't. I guess they really weren't on the same page, were they?

My favorite quote of the recap: "yeah right!, pretty boy with hunk-a bod but I seriously doubt you would have been a match for my homeboy Gael!" Woo hoo! Say it girl!

Also loved: "always Elisa Castanon… in the soup… in the tv commercials.. in the junk mail… in my nightmares… in public busses… in the magazine covers… in the taxi roof ads". Alfi, you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

EJ, I'm with you on the torment that Toadhead gives Elisa. What's his damage? Yee gods he is incredibly self-centered!

Marta, once again I am so glad you have the recap before me because you clarify so many things. And those things are starting to get complicated.
 

Awesome recap!! I loved the "wrap him in saran wrap" line and the whole Ingrid/Gab "we have so much in common" line. "Worship the God of Moolah" Ha!

And thanks for pointing out "solA" I heard it, but it didn't click. What's the possibility it's a sister? Maybe the true mother of Gael? Pure conjecture. And for the record, my conjecture is usually WRONG! lol

And I hate to be rude to Elisa, but HER puppies were HUGE looking last night. Every time I saw them I kept hearing the sound of balloons squeaking as if they were too tightly packed.
 

Great as always Marta. This TN sometimes can be damaging to my blood pressure with the antics of some of these denizens. Lover the lines Sylvia already noted too. And your description of Gabino and Irritating Ingrid! Winderful.

Guppy is beyond the pale. She and Assgusto actually deserve each other. Wouldn't it be nice if they were the ones to pack up and leave?? But Brava Elisa for sticking up for Lola! Have to say the burning of the results surprised me. So apparently there's no evidence of the true paternity. But he did surprise me not throwing Elisa out. Sorry, but I took that scene that he needed Lola around, so shucks they can stay. Of course, he'll continue to make Elisa's life a living hell. Think she would have been better off leaving anyway.

Gael is my hero. Damian should have left him to throw a few punches first.

And now I my guesses on Irritating Ingrid are pretty close to being confirmed--she's out for the dough. I will be putting the oversized anvil order in - noone need bother.

I am hoping that since they show such an obvious preview, that nothing really happens with Paolo and Elisa. I'm hoping Gael rides up and beats the crap out of him, but I have a feeling someone will save the day. They wouldn't go there so early in the story...or they better not. Sick of that plotline in TN's.
 

Marta, awesome recap! All of the lines so far mentioned were on my greatest hits list, along with this one:

“…no, really, ToadHead, surprise us…”…

(Anyone else sorry he didn't accidentally set himself on fire with his own lighter? Nah, didn't think so.)
 

Marta: The recap was incredible.

Many of your wonderful lines have been pointed out but the truth is that you interspersed humor and insight throughout. Gracias!

When Augusto brought the results to his lair with his flashbacks in full view, I thought for one brief moment, for one solitary second that he might rip up the results. There was a small battle being waged. It was a last chance for the real, loving memories to take over and lighten his heart. But the battle was lost. Not knowing was tearing him apart and now knowing (the false truth) will be his ruination.

The fact that Lola was in tears after living in that horrible house for so many years gives only an inkling of how Elisa must have and continue to suffer. Thank God Elisa has her!

I'm so glad that Gab and Ingrid got together. He's been waiting for the right woman. Yes. The right woman for last night. Blech.

The preview had me really rattled: "Flo upset and in disbelief VO: a decision that will lead to a vengeance (Flo apparently tells Paolo about the split) without limits, without mercy… (we see what seems like Paolo trying to rape Elisa at the cenote after he insults her and she slaps him…)" Basta - please don't let anything else happen to Elisa. From everyone's comments this morning, I think we all feel enough is enough.

Diana
 

i still say Lucio is on to something... at that fashion house there was nothing that could have caused a second explosion strong enough to blow the locked door right out of the hinges...
all i can think of is the sewing machine... but that does ot have any flammable fluid that can blow that strongly.

i too found the conversation of Damian and Kike stupid... then again Kike's face as Damial lleft him alone sort of told me that Damian would have wasted his time trying to make him get the notion of 'be a man' and face up to your own problems without using women as shield or messengers... (that's what i think the point was).

Sara, that was why i mentioned the spray starch... if that black dress was not strong enough, they would have fallen right outathere.

forgot to mention that Ingrid was ON THE PHONE talking to that other woman.

I too was very proud of our Elisa for standing up for Lola like that. They REALLY should move in with Lucio... give him company while avoiding the unhealthy environment at the quinta from HELL. I remember back then Gael offered to find Elisa a place... but with it being Don Lucio her godfather, and with them moving in there together noone would dare say anything.

Good thing Maru and Loopy are both onto Ingrid... she has an agenda for sure. and it is definitely related to money.

when Gabino showed at her door, i remember he said they were both alone and she replied that it was better alone than in bad company... but still she let him in.

as far as ToadHead, i would want him to trip in his habanero fields and land in such a way that he chokes on a habanero...

Diana, Gabino and Ingrid with him thinking he got the right woman... that is so cool... it would be a case of 'ladron que roba a ladron' since she herself has a money related agenda... (for the talismaniacs... sort of the same case as Elvira/Renato show?)
 

oh sweet!! on Despierta America they have a mariachi singing 'esta vida' (sorry, i LOVED LHDM!!)
 

Diana, i totally agree that ToadHead alone in his office with the envelope in his hands was a huge fork on the road... and like you said, his NEED to KNOW fueled by Nemo-Ho's lies won over his memories of good times with Estefania and Elisa... poor man... he has had chances... but now i am no longer rooting for him to survive this show... even if that would be yet another HUGE loss for Elisa...

as far as the previews... i was glad that Damian comes semi-clean with Flo and at least asks for them to split...
and as far as the 'rape' scene, i am rooting for one of the home boys to show up (would make more sense for Gael to be the hero since i have a hard time figuring what Damian would be doing at the cenote area unless he was specifically looking for Elisa).
 

i just had a funny thought... i envisioned Gabino getting involved with a woman and she happened to be married to an 'Arturito' (LHDM character) run, Gabino! run! lol
 

Marta: Great work.

Elisa is assembling her team: so far, we have Gael and Lucio who are going to help her set up the habañero operation. I just have a problem envisioning her as a titan of industry and business when she can't seem to find a dress with a bodice big enough to hold her boobs. And, she had just altered it. In fact, in a previous episode she told Lolita that she was using her sewing skills to modernize her wardrobe. We're in for practically topless to keep it barely legal!
 

Ha ha, Pasofino, at least we can see why the dress needed altering -- but where did she get all that extra material???

I'm not so sure Gabino & Paloma are gettin' busy. I think he's about to have his channel changed. We'll see.
 

Marta- I figured that's what the spray starch comment was about. I was just confirming.

I know she's had her hooters inhanced but normally they don't look so fake. Srsly last night all I heard was squeak squeak
 

Hello old friends, I've so missed each of you! I've been living in Telemundo world for awhile.

Thanks to a head's up from Doris, I'm watching this novela and enjoying it! It is filled with such complicated yet realistic characters. Also, as we watch the cruel, cruel meanness of the likes of Carmina and Gabino we can balance our emotions with the true kindness of Lolita, Blanca (RIP) and Lucio. I had really sworn off programs, English or Spanish, where most characters are cruel and the rest are DUMB so this one fits my new requirements perfectly, cruel and SMART.

I have focused most of my attention on Augusto, he is in such extreme pain, he is losing his business, the good memories of his marriage and his "blood" daughter, but he only sinks lower and lower to the dark side with his pain. How can he reject the devotion of such a beautiful girl like Elisa, after loving her for so many years, because she isn't "blood?" I took it as a good sign when he burned the fake DNA papers, could it be that he was shielding Elisa? Hope so! Also, there are low moments in novelas, but Carmina's "she (Elisa) has the blood of Estefania and Rosendo," was just as low as it gets, I'm still cringing!

Marta, loved your fun filled recap, plus you translated conversations that confused me. I especially liked your riff on  ‘Elisa Castanon’ … always Elisa Castanon… in the soup…  in the tv commercials.. in the junk mail… in my nightmares… in public busses… in the magazine covers… in the taxi roof ads…" Isn't that the truth!

Can't wait for the dueling habanero haciendas to start, my bet is on Elisa, Gael and Lucio!

I was moved by Ingrid's desire to be a mother even if it is a little late (20 years!), have I been taken in by her? Is she up to no good?!?! Hanging with Gabino isn't a good plan! Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see.
 

Thanks Marta, very well crafted and very entertaining.

Hello Sandy, I've missed you. I'm a little surprised to find myself kinda agreeing with you about both Ingrid and Augusto.

Augusto is weak, he lacks good judgement, and he treats Elisa horribly which I abhor, but he's had terrible misfortune. He's one of those poor poopies that would get along fairly well in life as long as there are no challenges or adversity.

The music seems to warn us that Ingrid is up to no good, but so far I can't see the reason for Padre Lupe's outright disdain and disgust nor for the undisguised looks of revulsion and alarm that Maru and Lucio have given her.

Note to Padre Lupe... yes she admits to abandoning Gael 20 some odd years ago, but is that all you can come up with? I thought forgiveness is a big part of your job description.

I'm guessing that she's looking to cash in on a fling with Rosy years ago, or maybe feels like Gael has a claim to the procesadora (which he may if he's Rosendo's son), but so far her worst crime lately has been a twisted ankle.

Carlos
 

Muchisimas gracias, Marta!

Also thanks to the other recappers and commenters...last night was the first time in a while I was up to date watching the show, but I've been trailing along in the wake of the recaps. So helpful and entertaining!

Lolita and Elisa should have just left. Living in the old runaway cave would be better than staying with Naran-ho and Disgusto.

That pose Garbagino made in the doorway of Ingrate's room made me laugh so hard. By the way, the phrase he used earlier about apples and pears was "entre son peras o son manzanas" which means something like "while we aren't sure what's going on" or "while the facts still aren't known." I think maybe he was saying to be cautious until they see how things shake out.
 

Augusto has had financial misfortune. He is weak and without good judgment, but none of those can hide what he really is: an emotional abuser of the worst kind.

His financial misfortunes are no excuse for the emotional and physical abuse he has perpetrated upon his daughter. Obviously, he lacks insight into any of his actions and is oblivious to the machinations of the whore he married, but he is an abuser nonetheless.

Listen to the words as he spits them out to his daughter. They are sickening words...words that make one nauseous just hearing them.

Elisa...who has been abused for how long now...would be so much better off away from her father and the whore of a stepmother, but she can't quite seem to break away from this man simply because he is her father. The tiniest act of interest in her (the conversation between himself and the whore he married), and she feels 'rescued' by him and agrees to stay and the cycle resumes once again.

Somewhere along the line, someone posted that the actor in this role said that Augusto was not a bad person. If I could find that post, I would paste it here,but what struck me then and strikes me now is that the actor himself did not acknowledge that Augusto is an abuser. Don't tell me...the actor thinks this is just 'boys being boys', right?

Weak? Poor Judgement? Oh my Lordy, yes! This man deserves no redemption. There is no excuse for what he has done and continues to do. I have no pity for the likes of him.
 

"There is no excuse for what he has done and continues to do. I have no pity for the likes of him."

This. Assgusto frankly lost me with the way he treated his daughter right after Stef's death. He ignored her/yelled at her, only after having that eureka moment days later that "oh I have a daughter who I should worry about." His reactions and behavior have always been self-centered and that's how Guppy can play to him.

I had one shred of hope last night after he burned the results, that he still felt that Elisa was his daughter since he raised her (the theme of Gael and Paloma), but no, the venom and attitude was still there in the very next scene. He wanted a housekeeper more than he wanted his daughter to stick around.

The actor may feel he's not a "bad man". No, he's not committing crimes like Gab or Horacio, but a verbal abuser is "bad" in my book, no matter how they try to justify it. He is not mentally ill, he can CHOOSE not to talk to Elisa in that fashion or question that crud that Guppy feeds him. Frankly, I think much of his behavior and way he operates convinces me he isn't really very bright. What the heck Stef ever saw in him is beyond me.
 

julia, thanks for the translation of the pears and apples line, i had never heard that one before. but it totally makes sense in that context since they don't know what Damian is up to or what he will do.

and ITA on AssGusto. it is ONE THING to make YOURSELF miserable by misunderstandings and lies and your believing someone else just by her word... it is TOTALLY ANOTHER thing to perpetuate such an abusive behavior and toxic living environment on your own child (what fault of hers is it if she is not your blood child? you behaved like she was for so long and she loves you like you are...). ITA that it is well beyond poor judgement... it is simply abuse on your own child... and it does indeed deserve no redemption... it is several levels underneath abandoning your child for 20 years for yet-to-be-revealed reasons...
 

I'm really curious about why Padre Loopy is so hostile to Ingrid. What exactly was going on when she abandoned Gael? If Rosendo was the father, why wouldn't she just get him to support them? He supported Gael financially anyway, so it isn't like he was shirking that duty. Why did she leave?

Besides which, it may have been wrong for Ingrid to leave, but that way Padre got to be a dad, and as a priest he wouldn't have otherwise. He seems to have really enjoyed raising Gael. So why is he still so bitter?
 

marta - thank you for the recap! The snark is subtly woven into it and is a hoot.

Ingrid's eyes bother me. They are set too far apart on her face. She looks like 'ET' to me.

Pobrecito de Padre Lupe, he is so afraid that once Gael discovers he has a mother, he'll be forgotten by G and lost forever. I think that is what is behind his behaviors to Ingrid.

Is it possible Elisa is suffering Stockholm Syndrome, since she stays with Augusto? The guy has his nerve, commanding her to stay and live in that house. Augusto is dead to me. He is a murderer, slowly killing Elisa's spirit and mental health.

I have grand visions (hopes!) of Elisa showing up one day, a la Laura Croft Tomb Raider, and sticking it to everyone who has made her life miserable.

Elisa's boobs looked like they were going to pop out of the bodice of her dress. Are they inflating daily?
 

Elisa's boobs looked like they were going to pop out of her skin, never mind the dress. Wouldn't it be painful to have them so inflated and pushed up? And she specifically tailored the dress to fit that way?
 

Disgusto told Viewerville last night why he's keeping the secret of Elisa not being his daughter (I think he told Carmina too):

If Disgusto tells Elisa she's not his daughter, she's gone. Estefania left him in hell, and Elisa's going to join him in hell.

If Elisa knows she's not Disgusto's daughter, she's not going to stick around. That's why he burnt up the results. Carmina thought he would toss Elisa out on her ass once he got the results but was confused when he demanded she stay. That's why she snuck into his office to see if he got the results.

Since Augusto didn't throw Elisa out and isn't going to tell Elisa the "truth," Carmina will have to UNLESS Disgusto catches Elisa kissing/about to have sex with Damian. That's the only way I can see him telling Elisa the truth.

Maru was giving Ingrid the stink eye big time.

Florencia needs a hobby. Make herself useful or something. Learn how to cook Damian's favorite meal from Antonia. Take up drawing. Do something sitting around whining that Damian isn't paying attention to you.
 

Disgusto told Viewerville last night why he's keeping the secret of Elisa not being his daughter (I think he told Carmina too):

If Disgusto tells Elisa she's not his daughter, she's gone. Estefania left him in hell, and Elisa's going to join him in hell.

If Elisa knows she's not Disgusto's daughter, she's not going to stick around. That's why he burnt up the results. Carmina thought he would toss Elisa out on her ass once he got the results but was confused when he demanded she stay. That's why she snuck into his office to see if he got the results.

Since Augusto didn't throw Elisa out and isn't going to tell Elisa the "truth," Carmina will have to UNLESS Disgusto catches Elisa kissing/about to have sex with Damian. That's the only way I can see him telling Elisa the truth.

Maru was giving Ingrid the stink eye big time.

Florencia needs a hobby. Make herself useful or something. Learn how to cook Damian's favorite meal from Antonia. Take up drawing. Do something sitting around whining that Damian isn't paying attention to you.
 

Doris,
Elisa showing up one day, a la Laura Croft Tomb Raider, and sticking it to everyone ... I LIKE IT!!

ok, on another line of thinking...
Nem-Ho threatens Lolita that she will 'harm' her and/or Elisa...
BUT... Nem-Ho does not count on Gabino's enforcer, namely Horacio, being number one on Lolita's fan club...
so if Nem-Ho is trying to hurt Lolita via asking Blah-Bino to ask Horacio to do something to her (and by association to Elisa since Horacio would know how much that would hurt Lolita if something happened to Elisa), things might get quite interesting in La Ermita.
 

I can easily foresee Carmina planting valuables on Lolita and then accusing her of stealing...
 

Anon207: Elisa is Assgusto's daughter. Carmeeeena faked the results to say she wasn't.

No redemption for this sorry excuse of a father. And if I were on the writing staff Elisa would not forgive him at the end.
 

We all know that Elisa is Assgusto's daughter, but HE doesn't know that. But he knows that if Elisa knows that she's not his daughter, she's not going to stick around, that's why he's not telling her. He wants her around to join him in the hell Estefania left him in. He said that last night.
 

Egads! Blue Lass I hope Lolita doesn't get framed! Unfortunately it sounds way too plausible.

Assgusto makes me so mad. How can you turn off your love for a child that way? You thought she was yours for what 7, 8 years. One orange tinged Ho says no and you stop living the child?
 

Loving. Stoopid phone.
 

Boy, Marta, you really took another one for the team. Sounds like it was a dreadfully cruel night. Got a kick out of your describing Enrique looking like he didn't quite get what Damian was saying. Evidently a lot of us didn't either. I haven't watched this yet, but since I have your translation, I'm in good hands.

Maybe when they were pumping extra collagen into Carmina's lips, they put the leftovers into Elise. I'm afraid if someone gives her a bear hug, she'll be in agony.
 

Sara, I don't get that either. So you can only love people with your DNA? So much for adoption...
 

Sara...
Blue Lass I hope Lolita doesn't get framed! Unfortunately it sounds way too plausible.
at this point Orange Ho knows she won't get backing from AssGusto if she tries to frame Lolita because that would mean Elisa leaves with her. so why bother... she needs to GET RID of Lolita (as in have another grave dug) to really hurt Elisa...

JudyB... just about to walk into a one on one with boss and i can't stop laughing at your...

Maybe when they were pumping extra collagen into Carmina's lips, they put the leftovers into Elise. I'm afraid if someone gives her a bear hug, she'll be in agony.
THanks!... i think...
 

i dont know about you guys, but this is one strange novela... we LOVE to admire the acting and drama JUST AS MUCH as we love to snark at the ridiculous and AssGusto's stupidity... LOVE IT!!
 

crossing fingers we get a hero riding to Elisa's rescue tonight... where is that crazy 'Trigger' character from the Police academy movies? he could really get one on Paolo ...
 

Marta said:
"i dont know about you guys, but this is one strange novela... we LOVE to admire the acting and drama JUST AS MUCH as we love to snark at the ridiculous and AssGusto's stupidity... LOVE IT!!"

Oh so true! I think that is why I am enjoying it so much. It's good quality, but there are still opportunities for snark.

BTW, I was trying to find Elisa's boobage on last night's recording to show hubby (I am such a good wife) and as I FF>> he said in reference to ToadHead "What's up with that guy's hair?"

bwahahah!
 

Sara and EJ, I meant to comment last night that I am ITA on Carmina's motormushmouth Spanish. I had a real leap forward in my oral comprehension last month, and now I mostly watch w/o reading the captions -- except for her. I almost never understand her. I think it's that thing she does where she slides her lips around on her teeth and grins maniacally...it's just not conducive to proper articulation.
 

Hey All, great comments today on Marta's recap and last night's episode, which was a very good one.

Although I was thrilled at Elisa and Lolita's little triumph, I was absolutely baffled that they would decide to stay at the dreariest of all abodes. I was yelling at the TV, "Get out! Leave now!" Gah. And now I'm worried that Orangina will set Lolita up to be accused of thievery. (Which totally would not make sense for such a long-term employee, but you know, telenovelas.)

I also have an impossible time understanding Carmina. The words come out but her lips are always doing something totally different from what normal lips would do. It's weird and distracting. The other character I can never understand is Gabino. Don Lucio, I can always understand him. I love how he enunciates.

I must admit to being amused when Elisa was defending her honor to Augusto, while at the same time wearing a dress that revealed much more than a bustier. I know that clothes have little or nothing to do with morals, but I still had to laugh.
 

Sorry to be late to the party. Wonderful recap Marta, and great comments. I was so happy when Elisa and Lolita were walking out the door, and I was happy to see Elisa stand up to Assgusto. But I was not pleased that they decided to stay. Arrgg!!
 

is it me or were elisas boobs like super there today? like way out there and way huge?