Caray, Caray!

I like your interpretation of the letter. That was the best!
 

Thanks, but will Daddy Dearest believe it pertains to Elisa? Oh hell yeah.
 

Ah, lifesaver Sylvia. Between a phone call and ambulances across the street, missed a few things last night.

What I made sure not to miss: Gael, Gael and Padre, Gael and Kenia, Gael and whomever....Mark is killing me each night. Why can't they invent Hug-O-Vision, because that man needed a big one last night. I was perfectly willing to assist. Seriously, though, acting class...all I'll say.

Padre and Ramona always shine, but I think there reactions to their "children" was intense last night. I wasn't surprised by the slap by Ramona. I think she is reacting because of what happened with her daughter.

I was surprised at Lucio's. He remembers that Assgusto thinks Elisa is Rosendo's and I half expected he was going to try and cut the kisses between D/E. I took his leaving as a firm belief in Steff and that Ass is wrong, but knows that it's going to surface to cause problems. Is that how others took that? I almost wish he would be the one to break it to the pair that the belief of them being siblings is out there.

I'm with Cynderella, your version of the letter was so much better. Somehow I can't see Paolo having those kinds of emotions for Highlights...but whatever. But I knew the minute Ass walked in that he was going to think the letter was for Elisa. Dang, did noone teach these people how to correctly structure a letter. You always have a greeting line, you know " My Dear Guppy Lips", "My love of the Clairol Highlights", "Bug-eyes"... but noooo. (And Paolo would go along with marrying Elisa why???? Little roll in the hay, but marriage? Unless Alfi is promising an annuity.)

Let the break-up schemes begin. Better also be a Gael/Kenia follow-up scene.
 

I got to "she doesn't like smiley faces in her pumpkin patch" and I had to stop and comment. Funny.as.hell. (If only Linus knew the true nature of the Great Pumpkin.)

I think I am going to come back and read this later. I suspect I will want to really savor it. Then I can actually go watch the episode. It sucks being dead tired and 7:45. lol
 

"Terminal Wet Blanket Sneazel"~~ With an emphasis in the word "terminal," after last night Carmina has a big fat anvil over her head!  

(The pearls) "certainly are boink-worthy"  ~~ That's catchy, I thing jewelry stores should use that phrase in their advertising ! 

"I just  want to say that for centuries people have gotten in trouble for writing letters. Why is he writing a letter?" ~~So Carmina could fool Augusto AGAIN but with less effort!

"These two are most definitely the anti-marriage poster children." Yes, all over the Spanish speaking world people are breaking off their engagements! 

Carlos, did you mean that Danna Garcia and Jade Fraser ( Sabrina) look a little alike? 
 

Yay! This is my last half day in South Carolina. I actually get to watch the scandals unfold in La Ermita at home tonight.

Sylvia- You and the other recappers have simply been at the top of your game this week. I have been able to picture every scene in this week's episodes through your wonderful writing.

Sandy- Dani in Gancho was the cute little girl, one of the three kids Mauricio adopted. I agree with you Carlos that Sabrina does look like a grown up version of cute little Dani. But Dani would have never been so darned bratty, even at 6 years old.
 

Sylvia: Most snarkworthy recap.

The blame game:

Alfonsina: It's Estafanías/Elisa's fault
Begoña: It's Paloma's fault
Florencia: It's Enrique's fault
Carmina: It's Estafanía/Elisa's fault
Augusto: It's Estafanía's fault

Laugh of the day: Gabino thinking that Ingrid loves him.

What we learned: In addition to his other talents, Paolo can write.
 

Sylvia..you are the master at setting the scene with just the right words...

"[the letter] directly into Carmina Bouvier's TALONS"(yesssss, the make-up and hair people have really fashioned her into a demonic, shiver-inducing non-human presence. "Jack-ho-lantern" was also great, by the way.

My other favorite description was of Gael..."he looks like he's about to jump out of his skin" (what a wonderful way to describe his reaction in that scene.)

And like everyone else, I just thought your rewrite of Paolo's let's-boink-again letter was pure genius.

Favorite scene:
A tie between seeing once proud Gabino grovel some more to woo Ingrid and the unpacking-packing rumpus between Gael and the Padre

Least favorite scene:
Ramona slapping Paloma and almost calling her a ramera.

I've long been appalled by the number of slaps that get distributed in these telenovelas and sure hope it's not a reflection of real life in Hispanic culture. My mother lost her temper and slapped me in the face when I was 15 (over something minor, NOT a Paloma type situation) and I've never forgotten the humiliation and injustice of it. But slaps seem to be routine in these stories and no big deal. Maybe Jarocha can enlighten us.

Another dandy, Sylvia. Like everyone else, I had that sinking feeling that the letter would be another blot on Elisa's reputation rather than Carmina's. Not looking forward to tonight's show at all!
 

Sylvia, you were on fire witht his recap!!
LOVED LOVED
(What? Before the bare-chested arm-wrestling? No puede ser!) DITTO!!

my fav scene last night...
Padre knows it’s because of Elisa, right? Gael admits he can’t stand to see the woman he loves in the arms of another man. These two are so cute. Padre keeps taking Gael’s clothes out of the suitcase and Gael keeps putting them back in.

LOVED the nicknames for Orang-Ina
Jack-Ho-Lantern, Pumpkinhead, Pop! goes the Terminal Wet Blanket Sleazel.

In short, no, and they have already talked the subject to death. Not Fina, she wants to beat this dead horse.
YEAH!! YOU GO DAMTHEMAN!!

These two are most definitely the anti-marriage poster children.
ABSOLUTELY!!

I’m pretty sure I never wore a lace doily for a skirt. But now I kind of get where my mom was coming from.
me either but i would have been expelled, i went to catholic mid and high school for girls only wth uniform

Fonda "Al sazón que me toquen" LOL!! good one!

Some guy tells Gael about whiteflies attacking the pepper crop but Gael can only pay attention to Dam and Elisa.
So THAT was what the guy was saying… I wasn’t paying attention. LOL!!

THANK YOU for transcribing the last scene with Gael and Kenya. My DVDR got full and I was scrambling to get space to record that and only got the last 14 secs of that… so THANK YOU.. hopefully they will repeat it tonight.

LOVED that letter translation too!! So cool!!
 

DaisynJay, you and i must be related... we think so alike...
Mark is killing me each night. Why can't they invent Hug-O-Vision, because that man needed a big one last night.
Amen to that!! I felt the same way.. why can’t I reach through the screen and give this boy a hug?? Did you notice his sad puppy face when he told Padre he was leaving La Ermita? Awwww!!

I took his leaving as a firm belief in Steff and that Ass is wrong, but knows that it's going to surface to cause problems. Is that how others took that? I almost wish he would be the one to break it to the pair that the belief of them being siblings is out there.
Well, I thought he sort of leaves a little room for it to be true, but he does not think it is his place or decision to reveal that to them, but I would love it if you were right, that SOMEONE would tell them sooner rather than later about the ‘rumor’ of them being siblings.

have a greeting line, you know " My Dear Guppy Lips", "My love of the Clairol Highlights", "Bug-eyes". ROFLOL!!

Better also be a Gael/Kenia follow-up scene. ABSOLUTELY!!
 

"she doesn't like smiley faces in her pumpkin patch" yeah that's a real good one too!
 

JudyB, i totally know what you mean by the slap thing...
when i was in 3rd or 4th grade i used to get a nervous blinking that made my eye look like i was blinking at someone as flirting.
A young male teacher warned me to stop it and then came over and slapped me in front of the whole class... well, my mom retired after 30 some years as a 3rd grade teacher and you can imagine her reaction when i went home so next thing i know is the guy was fired on the spot... but I know what you mean, you never forget a slap on the face from an adult when you are young. And I can't imagine from your own parent.
 

Sylvia - our pearl writing about the swine.

Besides your always hilarious lines (my favorites being "Pop goes the Terminal Wet Blanket Sleazel" and "What? Before the bare-chested arm wrestling?"), you have a way of injecting 1 or 2 words at just the right moment, like doh, nyaah, gah anvils, poor baby, whazzup, sow (crossed out), boink-worthy, Jack Ho Lantern, ooh slam dunk Damian, and Yeah! That's what I said. They are so perfectly timed and relevant and funny. You *are* a pearl!

Off to watch,

Rosemary la Otra
 

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And again, the Padre and Gael scene with the suitcase was a very funny scene since both are sitting on the bed, each on one side of the suitcase... one puts the clothes in, the other takes them out... you could put a mirror on the screen and they moved almost identically!
BTW, did you all notice how neatly folded the shirts were at first? as the handling of them progressed they got all messed up but originally they were SHARP neatly folded! LOL!!
 

Stuff we learned in last night's episode:

Ramona learned Paloma was creeping and tipping in Gael's room.

Florencia learned that yes, biotch, you IS broke, as evidenced by the rejected credit card

Augusto & Carmina learned that Edmundo & BeGoneYa are splitsville

Padre learned Sad!Gael is leaving town

Edmundo learned Enrique is not going to judge him or treat Paloma badly

Gabino learned Irritat-Ing will get busy for a pearl necklace

Lucio learned "brother" & "sister" are hooking up

Sad!Gael learned Kenia is his sister

Carmina learned of Paolo's desire for her

Augusto learned Carmina's letter writer is lustful

We learn Elisa will be crying in the next episode
 

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thanks to Sylvia's description of the scene of Gael and Kenya...
Her mother married dad for money and when dad died everything changed. She discovered who her mother really was, a woman so cold, so frivolous, willing to sell herself or her own daughter.
hmmm!! now i have a theory of the Kenya and Paolo hookup..
could it be that Irritat-Ing set up kenya to conquer paolo so they could get into the family back when they thought the Landucci's were rich?? So Kenya tried to get Paolo to marry her and when he refused she got pregnant with him and STILL he would not marry her... i wonder if the pregnancy was not something Irritat-Ing had asked her to do, or if Irritat-Ing just got mad that the Landucci's were not rich after all so she dumped her 'medium' daughter as an annoyance when Kenya ended up pregnant and pennyless?
that would make Kenya's story about her mother being cold and willing to sell herself and even her own daughter as very believable.
But was Kenya originally partner in crime or was she just a victim of circumstance where Irritat-Ing pointed her to Paolo and Kenya really fell in love with Paolo, not the family money, as Irritat-Ing would?
Somehow I think Kenya was on to the plan to a certain extent but did not really know the extent of Ingrid's selfishness and ambition but when she came to town and met Gael, she regretted ever having been related to Irritat-Ing.
 

Anon207,
We learn Elisa will be crying in the next episode
ROFLOL!! that is a trademark in this show, isn't it? almost every ep.
 

Wow Marta. I was horrified by your 3rd grade teacher story. So glad your mom took action and that man got fired. He clearly should not be around chidren. Or teaching. Period.

For some reason, though, your story reminded me of another young man teacher. This was when I was teaching French at a small college in Wisconsin and my colleague was a young Cuban teaching Spanish.

This was back in the days of the mini-skirts and he dolefully told me that when the girls in the front row crossed their legs, "sometimes he thought Bad Thoughts". He quit after a year, perhaps because of this very problem.

I kept thinking of that when Elisa was prancing around in that lace doily. Were there shorts underneath? There is something called a "skort" where that's the case. I sure hope so.
 

"you and i must be related... we think so alike..."

What fun that would be!!!

I also love your noticing the way poor Gael's clothes became nothing but a mess. What started out as a neat, tidy pile carefully put into the suitcase became a mangled heap--lovely metaphor to how Gael was looking at his life as the conversation progressed. After the conversation with Kenia, that suitcase needed to be run over by a bus. Poor guy...

Thinking about the white fly conversation--is that a foreshadowing of a disaster with the crops about to happen?
 

--lovely metaphor to how Gael was looking at his life as the conversation progressed. After the conversation with Kenia, that suitcase needed to be run over by a bus. Poor guy...

LOL!! good one daisynjay.. i had not thought of it that way but so true!!
 

Elisa was prancing around in that lace doily. Were there shorts underneath? There is something called a "skort" where that's the case. I sure hope so.
ITA, i hope those were skorts... btw, she was wearing something else around her back that came down BELOW the skort, sort of a vest that was much longer in back than the opening in front, making her outfit look from the front like she was missing her bottoms... lol
 

I think Gael's been concerned about the crops for a while, I think he's said something about them in a previous episode. But now you have the Day Player telling him about the white flies swarming the crops.

Which leads to an interesting question:

What if all of La Anita's vendors are plaged with the white flies EXCEPT Elisa's? What will Alfonsina do then?
 

Thanks for your recap Sylvia. Like others I enjoyed your reinterpretation of the "love" letter and Carmina's talons.

Fina and Gossip Girl are embittered women who desire to make the lives of others are wretched as their own. I feel for Dr. T b/c his wife is a shallow silly woman who does not seem able to recognize her own faults.
 

Something is still seriously threatening the crops at Augusto's fields. I clearly remember Gael saying something like 'i gotta go back and keep cleaning the plaga out...' (which is what he was doing when Augusto called him to give him Kenya's message and address... so definitely that is in the works... i wonder if anon is right, that Elisa's fields are targetted by Fina but they might be the only local source of her business's product later on.
 

Pasofino, the Blame Game, I like it. That would have made a good title, no?

Sara, dead tired at 7:45? Now I'm making a frowny face in my pumpkin patch. I hope you are able to get some rest this weekend.

Marta, good lord, your slap story is heinous. Good for your mom the lioness for getting that teacher's lousy butt fired!

Fonda "Al sazón que me toquen" was the actual name of the restaurant on the wall plaque outside.

daisynjay, re: crop foreshadowing, I thought it might be which is the only reason I mentioned the whitefly conversation. Maybe a crop disaster will induce Gael to stick around. Maybe he will reject Kenia (only temporarily I'm sure) and that will also induce him to stay.

Anon207, great list, I always look forward to them. Interesting point about all the crops being affected except Elisa's. But it's going to take a while for her plants to produce. But wait, the telenovela time jump can go into affect at any time!

Sandy in TN, as soon as I made my crack about letter writing the "blame Elisa" thing occurred to me as a possibility. Darn it!

The ending was quite a roller coaster. First Gael and Kenia, then Augusto finding the letter, now Carmina blaming it on Elisa. Like a good roller coaster, you know what's going to happen, but it still makes you lose your stomach.
 

Whatever was under that doily was visible in the mirror when she was brushing her hair. Let's hope it was a skort, or pettie pants. Remember those?

I like the idea that all the fields but Elisa's will be the victims of white flies. I'd love to see Fina come begging Elisa for help.

Hopefully if Assgusto blames Elisa, Damian will tell all about his Carmina sightings at the blue house. Carmina and the blue house is like white on flies.

R la O
 

Sylvia,
Like a good roller coaster, you know what's going to happen, but it still makes you lose your stomach.
I like that statement! my fav are the old wodden roller coasters...
 

good thing they don't have a courthouse in this town... could you imagine the line forming outside to open suits against each other?
starting with Pasofino's list...

Alfonsina: It's Estafanías/Elisa's fault
Begoña: It's Paloma's fault
Florencia: It's Enrique's fault
Carmina: It's Estafanía/Elisa's fault
Augusto: It's Estafanía's fault

and then all the rebuttals from Elisa to the whole town (- Lucio, -Braulio, -Ramona, -Lolita, -Gael, -Loopy) for diffamation, Dr Inmundo's divorce request, Kenya's to Irritat-Ing, Kenya to Paolo, etc etc
 

R la O, in my formative years we also wore hot pants. Anyone remember those? I don't think I remember pettie pants. Are they lacy shortie-type undergarments?

Marta, I love the old wooden roller coasters too. We have a great one at our local boardwalk. I always try to get the very last car because the whiplash effect makes it even crazier.
 

A Fine Recap, Cap'n Sylvia:

I love being on your ship.

I am still stunned by Paolo's letter. I loved your wise words...

"I just want to say that for centuries people have gotten in trouble for writing letters. Why is he writing a letter?"

But Paolo is too stupid and brutish to take your counsel. He wrote it all down. Honestly, this is the dumbest of the dumb cliches, but Augusto gets the data, warps it in his little pea brain and out comes his mantra:
"Elisa is a slut."

Like everyone else, I have come to adore Mark Tacher. I really enjoy his scenes with the Father and with Kenia.

Thanks again, Sylvia for a great recap.

EJ

How I dislike this character!
 

The minute Assgusto yanked the letter from Carmina, the look on her face told me she was already cooking up a way to blame it on Elisa. Too predictable, I'm afraid.

All this will serve to do is perpetuate Assgusto's abusive ways. Believe me, I have no idea how this story line will run...I wouldn't even know where to look to find a spoiler, but I have such a sinking feeling that Elisa, in the end, is just going to up and casually 'forgive' her father for all that he has done to her.

The minute he shows any signs of being an interested or, dare I say it, loving father, she is ready to forgive his abuse. It would be so unfair of the writers to let go unpunished all that Assgusto has created in both of their lives.

Strangely enough, I found myself distracted by Elisa's (or the wardrobe people) choice of clothing. There are only a few people in that little burg that don't think Elisa is a whore. The sad truth is that most times, she dresses like one. I'm no Puritan, but I don't like her choice of outfits.

The one time Elisa looked absolutely stunning was when she wore her mother's beautiful white dress. It sent such a lovely message to see that dress on her, but these other get ups look just like that...a get up.

This confuses me in terms of why the character is portrayed one way with her clothing, but we are to believe she is something else.

Continuing to think about Estefania's beautiful clothes, I wonder why they were not burned right along with her pictures. Why did the fool Assgusto spare the clothes?

I think it is sad how Sabine Moussier has made herself into a most unattractive looking woman.
 

Anon: De acuerdo on Sabine. When Elisa or Kenya, or even Alfonsina are in the same frame as she is, she is downright scary. Last night I noticed that her hands are a different color than her face.
 

Elisa marches around regularly at night with daisy dukes and her boobs falling out, but we're supposed to believe that she's not a ho.

Carmina dresses like she shops at Siempre Ventiuno when she should probably be about 45 years old. OK.

Florencia's dresses barely covered her @$$ but she was supposed to be classy & respectable.

Tona's boobs sway and swing in every scene but she thinks herself to be more respectable than Lolita.

And I really didn't see the difference in Paloma's "slut-time dress" and what she usually wears. Plus with the gang hanging out at the cenote swimming Gael's already seen most of Elisa and Paloma's bits and pieces.
 

Anon
Plus with the gang hanging out at the cenote swimming Gael's already seen most of Elisa and Paloma's bits and pieces.

i laughed so hard i need to give explanations around the office.
 

When Elisa or Kenya, or even Alfonsina are in the same frame as she is, she is downright scary.
yeah, when she is on the screen, she is downright scary.. with that eyeliner it looks like her glass eyes will fall any moment or shoot laser beams at anyone within her sight... and then her skin too... she must have very elastic skin from all the tanning...
 

I too am annoyed with the costuming of the ladies in this TN because it often doesn't seem to go with character, more for ratings. (Do that many men watch these shows?) When Ramona got mad at Pal the other day for putting on that dress, I thought "what's the diff? She's worn seductive, low-cut, off the shoulder stuff before! All she did was undo her braid."

As for Altair-- her petite figure and lack of enormous "girls" dictates that what she's been wearing seems to be the standard fair no matter what TN she isin, so her wardrobe hasn't surprised me

Elisa is the worst though. That was a skort she had on last night but stupidly too short. When she first walked into Lucio's and slightly turned, you could tell in that shot. But still...really? Is there a rule that says if she covers up slightly at top, the inches have to come off the bottom? In reality, you would think the Lola all these years would have let her know that those outfits are just too risque, but....
 

Pasofino, Anon207, and martaivett,

Thank you for supporting my comments! I am laughing so hard I cannot tell you, but I am relieved to know I am not Puritanic in my thinking.
 

You,too, daisynjay! I think we were both writing at the same time, but I have also wondered why Lolita has allowed Elisa to dress in that manner. Don Lucio is so grandfatherly in my eyes. I would have never dressed that way in front of my grandfather even in my craziest moments.

I wonder if Estef would have allowed this kind of dress as she was always so elegantly dressed herself.
 

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Is there a rule that says if she covers up slightly at top, the inches have to come off the bottom? In reality, you would think the Lola all these years would have let her know that those outfits are just too risque, but....
ITA... it is the reverse of 'la mona aunque se vista de seda, mona se queda'.. more like the advise should be 'keep in mind what your clothes /outfits say about you... especially when you are trying to counter a general notion/gossip around town that you ARE slutty'
that is a battle i have always fought with my daughter and at some point i gave up. when i tell her something about it she always takes offense in my using the word 'slutty' even if i am saying it LOOKS slutty, not referring to her, and she goes on with same clothes, so i thrown in the towel.
 

Anon207 & Anonymous: clearly you have never been to Southern Callie. Elisa is wearing church clothes. Amen Sharkbait?

Pasofino: in San Diego, a couple of years back (before creams and tanning palors), the women would tan their bodies, but not their faces. They didn't want wrinkles. That was the wierdest thing I had ever seen.
 

Amen sister! Mi hermana is a high school teacher and she is always telling me about the getups that some of her kids wear.

What? White faces and tan bodies? We missed that up here in Northern California. It kinda fits with Carmina's colored hands.
 

I wonder if Estef would have allowed this kind of dress as she was always so elegantly dressed herself.
Estefania used to reveal some cleavage but it was always as you say, an amount that still bordered within the elegant /tasteful... esp when she went out in the town (like when she went to the procesadora or to Alfie's) or she had a formal dinner at the house... never too short on the bottom and never you get the impression that her boobies were about to fall off... so there is a fine line there... and Elisa crossed it long ago.
 

I wonder if it is partly to mortify/rebel at her dad Augusto for always criticizing her. she figures if he has such negative reactions to everything she does, why bother worry about his reaction to what she wears...
still, it bothers me that she is trying to nip the gossip about her fame/reputaton but she won't do anything about dressing more conservatively. Paloma still looks very nice and attractive but we are not worried about her boobs falling or popping out or her bottom hem line.
 

i really feel bad for Pumpkin right this moment...
the woman TRIES and TRIES to get Augusto's attention... contrary to Elisa's problem where he is monitoring her too closely and at the same time does not care about her... or does not show he cares about her much...
Pumpkin finally gets him to react to something, but it is no to her.. it is TO HIS GETTING HAMMED TWICE by the SISTERS... it is not about her, but about what it will do to his EGO/PRIDE... So Pumpkin doesn't get his attention TO HERSELF even for the slight moment he thought the letter was for her...
 

Marta you have a kind heart. I just can't feel sorry for her because she's always been such a cruel, conniving witch from day one. I think it's time to make Pumpkin Pie!
 

i have a feeling that when it is all said and revealed, she will be willing to walk herself right into the oven for good rather than face the reactions.
What did she do it all for? power? money? Augusto was such a huge prize? i can't even understand her original motive unless it was more jealousy/envy of Estefania than anything else.
 

"i can't even understand her original motive unless it was more jealousy/envy of Estefania than anything else." Bingo! I think that's it. If only Estefania could have seen into the future she probably would never have tried to stop Carmina from running away.
 

I too am annoyed by the costumes in this novela.  In fact, I think that AdP has the most distracting ramerawear of all time, and that is saying something.  The irony of last night was that while Elisha had on the shorts(?) Damian had on a shirt, a long sleeve buttoned sweater and jeans like he was at a Young Republicans meeting, she looked she like was.... oh well,  I won't go there. 

Carmina is poorly written. Whether we like other characters or not not, they all seem to have real life motivations or characteristics.  Has anyone here had a friend that looked and acted like Carmina?  I surely haven't.  I've known plenty of Alfies, Begonias, Flors, Palomas, Damians, Gabinos  and so on and so forth. 
 

Interesting thought, martaivett about Elisa's motivation for her dress. We never see her actually planning her wardrobe, so I think this would have to be a subconscious and not a conscious act.

Sandy...I am dying laughing at "Young Republicans"!!! I wonder if wardrobe is short on funds. Many of you have mentioned that "Members Only" jacket. I looked it up. I see what you mean!! That is so RETRO!!

I don't remember things from early on, but has Carmina ever had a genuine love for Assgusto or was it just to try and compete with Estefania?

You know, I didn't like the Estef actor in TdA, but she was so lovely in the beginning of this TN. I'm sad that there have not been more flashbacks so that we could have seen more of her.

This is one case where I think the flashbacks to the early lives of Rosendo, Estef, Assgusto and Alpha Witch would have been so very interesting.

Oh..."church clothes"! Another huge laugh!!
 

Thanks for this clever recap, Sylvia. I read it first thing this morning and was chomping at the bit to comment but it's allergy time here in Texas so one must strike while the iron is hot.

I think that Paloma was expecting Ramona's slap. I just wonder what she meant when she said that the next time would be much worse... Yikes! Maybe she will zap her into a little bunny rabbit (can't picture Paloma as a toad or a newt).

And here I'm thinking that Elisa wears those outfits because it's so hot in the Yucatan.

Mike and Sandy, Vivi is right about Dani. Remember? We used to announce Dani sightings. She was such a cutie and so is Sabrina, but Sabrina is at an awkward age.

Carlos
 

I remember that Steff and Carmina were somewhat well-off young girls and were the newbies in town. Carmina has always thought she got stuck in the backwater, whereas Steff embraced the whole idea ( I loved the scene where she gets all excited about growing the plants.) I think Steff inherited the lands, and Carmina inherited the chip on her shoulder.

Unfortunately, I have met a Carmina in my life. Never satified, always wants what "the Jones' have',everyone is beneath her, but wouldn't lift a finger to attempt at bettering their lot or, horrors,doing a decent day's work. Like Carmina, she believed you got what you wanted by snagging a wealthy guy. And if he didn't work out, you went on to the next wealthy guy...she's on sorta, kinda making a decent living guy No.3. (They don't get better looking or any wealthier).

Carmina fell for Ass because Carmina had him and I think at one time, he was considered pretty well up there in town. I think that as loose as she is, notice she pushes Gab away, but was ready to tango with Paolo (thinking him loaded--does she know that clan is broke?)
 

Meant to say because STEFF had him..it's Friday.
 

daisynjay,
I think Steff inherited the lands, and Carmina inherited the chip on her shoulder.

LOL! nice way to summarize it!
 

The actress who plays Estefania is not the same actress who played Ximena in TdA. They are sisters, though.

Carmina is just jealous of everything Estefania had. Once Estefania was dead, there was no more reason for her to "love" Augusto anymore, except she needed a sucker to cover up her pregnancy.

Carmina, Alfonsina & Begona (and Florencia too*) are 3 peas in a pod...they are jealous and pathetic, blame everyone else for what's wrong with them instead of examining themselves, and spreading gossip and lies about others to destroy them:

Carmina doesn't want to accept the fact that Augusto just is not into her. EVER. and she blames ELISA for his inattention when she knew from the beginning he did not and does not and will not ever love her. (or even like her.

Alfonsina doesn't want to accept the fact that she was a NAG and a SHREW whose own brother** told her to tighten up and treat her husband more kindly. She would rather blame ESTEFANIA and ELISA instead of looking at herself.

Begoña*** does not want to accept the fact that she was a bad wife who paid more attention to Alfonsina's ass than Edmundo or the kids. So it's more convenient to blame PALOMA instead of looking within herself.

*Florencia can legitimately blame Elisa for some of the problems b/w her and Damian but she handed him a reason to dump her when she lied about the pregnancy & the paralysis. That's on her, not Elisa.

**How must have Lupe felt, to know his brother-in-law Rosendo was having all these affairs & children outside of Alfonsina?

***Begoña is teaching Sabrina to blame others for her love problems too. Paolo's not into Sabrina, because Elisa is just a slutty slut who sluts. No, Paolo isn't into Sabrina b/c Sabrina's easy and not a challenge. Paolo isn't into Sabrina because she's boring and there's nothing to her. That's not Elisa's problem or fault, that's Sabrina's.
 

Who else thinks Carmina looks like a baseball glove? Scary and hairy, but tough-skinned as though she had been professionally 'tanned.'
 

Hi all. I just assume that Elisa wears slutty revealing outfits because she's really Angelique Boyer, and the producers are determined to get maximum benefit out of her "new improved" bod plus her star power name. The distracting outfits (and oversized girls) always somewhat annoy me in thei garishness, but I have never assumed they had anything to do with the story, and were always about ratings. I guess there must be enough viewers drawn to the view to make a difference. Maybe it just means the hubbies don't complain when the wife wants to watch the telenovela at night?
 

Aww... Sylvia, we're gonna wear out them horses pulling your Golden Chariot under the Arch of Recapping Triumphs! But that's OK. And, yeah, I remember (quite well!) when girls ran around in Hot Pants. In some cases, that was a joy to behold and in others, well...

I'm cutting Angelique Boyer plenty of slack on the costumery, but not the wardrobe dept. Remember how we used to grouse about the dip-oid outfits that were inflicted on Silvia Navarro in CME? And has Altair Jarabo ever worn anything but Ace Wraps? In any TN?

Sabine Mussier is just, well, *cough, cough*, not a (how to say?) conventionally attractive woman. How's that? Now this is going way the heck back there, but I remember in Miss Hazel Girvin's Latin II class, we learned that Roman legionnaires found some of the Germanae to be altogether scary because of the pale eyes, saying that light radiated from them. So, Sabine, sweetheart, in case you run into a legionnaire sometime you should be safe.

Now as to mi Querida Esposa's assessment of Carmina resembling a baseball glove, yes! She does have that distinct shade of a new glove and maybe I'll start referring to her as "Rawlings" or "Wilson". Nah, that defames ball gloves.

Well, OF COURSE, Vivi la Terabyte remembers Dani on Gancho, as does Carlos. Carlos, I remember "Dani sightings", but not Dani. Horrid of me.

Es sufficiente!
 

Now as to mi Querida Esposa's assessment of Carmina resembling a baseball glove, yes! She does have that distinct shade of a new glove and maybe I'll start referring to her as "Rawlings" or "Wilson". Nah, that defames ball gloves.
OMG!! Emilia and Mike... you guys are a riot!! LOL!!!
 

I actually thought the actress who plays Orangina was stunningly beautiful in Las Tontas No Van Al Cielo. But she has aged and gotten even more orange since then.
 

Yep, she definitely looks like a baseball glove.

cathyx, there is (or was recently) another telenovela on in the afternoon where Sabine played a completely different, very likable character. She had a totally different, very classy and attractive look. Maybe she played a lawyer, always in sexy business suits and with a lovely, shorter haircut. It's hard to believe it is the same person. She does have orangy skin, but in Abismo they seem to accentuate it with makeup and/or gloss. Plus her heavily lined eyes and wild, highlighted hair make her look crazed. Finally, she seems to be purposely bugging her eyes out and sneering all the time which is very scary looking.
 

Yes Sylvia, and Jarocha directed us to a youtube version a month or so ago of one of her first telenovelas and she was a lovely brunette, albeit with the same pale azure eyes. Quite a stunner.

I think they're accentuating her wildness and haggardness because of the evil she's portraying. I'd like to think she's still a lovely woman when she's not cast in these hellish roles. (must be fun to play a baddie tho')
 

I thought David Zapeda played an excellent bad person in Sortilegio. Very believable. He was so unlikable even though I think he is so sexy when he's a good guy.

I finally placed the boy who plays Vincente. He was a young Ivan in La Fuerza del Destino.
 

Just fabulous, Cap'n. I *loved* the Jack Ho Lantern! Way to keep up the demented pumpkin theme!
 

Yes! That's where I've seen him. He also played the young Juan Del Diablo in the newest Corazon Salvaje. I didn't watch much of either of those so I'd forgotten where I'd seen him. He is adorable and will be a stunner, no doubt about it.

Sara, glad you like the pumpkin theme. I didn't start it but I'm more than happy to carry the baton when it's my turn to run. One of our commenters said that when she got mad she looked like a pumpkin souffle about to explode. That cracked me up so much I will never forget it.
 

JudyB, practically all the actors say it's much more fun to play the baddies than the boring old sweethearts. I know I would probably prefer it. Just think how fun it would be to let all one's aggressions out in a perfectly acceptable venue.
 

I've always suspected the same, Sylvia. When we used to play "let's pretend" games in the neighborhood, I always wanted to be the pretty princess. But then I'd get annoyed with the bland way some other kid was playing the wicked witch and would always end up grabbing that role instead. Much more fun.
 

Sabinne was also on the last 1/3 or so of Maria Isabel playing the antagonist with Adela Noriega.. and she was a famous pianist who travels worldwide so she looked much more 'normal' than here. Her name there was Mireya Serrano, i think.
 

I want to raid Kenya's apartment and hug Gael!!!! whaaaaaaa!!
 

go about 6 minutes into this clip to see Sabinne back in 1997 or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBXEKDUdL9A&feature=relmfu
 

or about 4:46 in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omALTl9slI0&feature=relmfu
 

Wow, her lips move! It's a miracle!

JudyB, I can just imagine you as a twerp taking over the witch role and schooling the others. Thanks for the laugh.
 

For Carmina's skin, do you suppose that the answer is ConchaNacarVenus?
 

I am SO MAD that my dvr refused to record this entire week! Yet I am SO THANKFUL for this group of you amazing snarkers that would scare the writers off the job. Please don't ever stop recapping and posting your commentary.