Saturday, May 05, 2012
Abismo de pasión #40 05/04/12: Damn Man! Not Even the Dog?
Labels: abismo
What a terrific recap! Wow. My favorite section so far is you succinct analysis of the way Florencia will control Damian for lo, these many upcoming episodes:
"When Damien tries getting her to stand, she begins to wail that she can’t feel her legs. Triple Whammy! She lost our baby and she can’t walk and it’s his fault. Ingenious. He’ll have to stay with her until the final episode. She cries and hangs on to his neck for support."
Great call on the upcoming lot and a super recap.
More mañana!
Thanks again Cynderella for getting this up so quickly.
EJ
Damn right ,Paloma pushed him first and no doubt bruised that awesome Gabino chest. And clearly he's a knight in shining armor if he gives Ingrid a ride on his horsey. Forget all that other stuff. Just a bad decision here or there, based on his youthfulness (succulent youthfulness I might add.)
Also loved your detailed analysis of how many times Elisa sniveled in a day, based on the clothes she was wearing. Yep, someone needs to tag our heroine for being hopelessly leaky, lagrima-wise.
Comments on the creepy music and how you were led to waste a lot of exclamation points...also great.
Consider a future as a standup comedienne. The pay and lifestyle aren't great, but lady, you could knock 'em dead.
Loved the Gabino arms of steel! LOL! Very funny recap, especially the scary cenote jungle witch house bit - LOL!
"I’ve been shamelessly throwing myself at a sex fiend who refused to take advantage of me. "
"He tells her that Florencia was never baking a bun, there’s no yeast, and the pilot light was never lit!"
"Broomhilda soared home on her broomstick in record time"
And I could go on and on. Wonderful.
And I'm with you and Audrey, enough with the sob scenes already. Damn, move out, move on, do something productive except sit and mope in your room. ( Lord, I sound like her mother) but seriously. I hate heroines that just sit around and snivel all day long. Fight back and give them as good as your getting.
I think we need to change Dr. WHipped's nickname and move it over to Dam. That poor puppy just got a new lease and will no longer be able to go out and play without someone holding it. Have to say, I do like that Alfi is going against cliche and not falling or supporting Flo's antics. Usually the two would be in cahoots. Looks like we may be getting a lot of "Hero in Tears" scenes too. Argh
Ramona needs to be signed by the Yankees. Nice throw!
I love the riding up to work on a horse--lucky Ingrid at least doesn't have to carry a laptop like I do. There is just something off about those two together--I think it's lack of chemistry or something. I just see Gab acting goofy for someone with a lot more sexiness--we need to move Suzanne Gonzalez over from LQNP.
I said I wanted the Irritating Ingrid plotline wrapped up, but dang, those previews! I DO NOT want to see Gael and Padre's relationship on the outs. I live for those two and their rapport.
There are two very ugly parents in this TN and they are getting harder and harder to watch. Painful, actually...very painful.
Alofonsina with her frozen face and her hair in ringlets (is that supposed to negate the frozen face?)is cold and cruel. Her eyes are just as dead as Augusto's. Those two dead souls belong with each other.
I have not seen as many of these novelas as the rest of you, but this is the first time I have ever despised and loathed a character as much as I do Augusto. He thinks he can just sell of his daughter to the first man who will take her and, somehow, this will solve all of his problems.
My biggest wish is that Elisa would quit crying and start thinking about how she should leave her horrid, cruel, and abusive father and get on with her life. Many of you here have already said it, but moving in with her godfather would be the best for both of them.
Augusto makes me sick every time I see him. He is sickening,just sickening to watch and I can't wait...I am counting the days for when he finds out the harm and cruelty he did to his child. There had better not be any getting away and pardoning of what he has done to his own flesh and blood.
Thank you for the recap.
Muchas Gracias,
Liliana
i don't mind Gael's lips but i have noticed that that is one signature feature in his face... besides all the facial expression he has... like the one-brow lifts he can do so easily...
my favorite part of last night was gael/Kenya scenes and also the previews... so the 'I don't have a family or sister' won't last long, will it? so the dramatic scenes between Gael and Padre Loopy are coming up soon.. can't wait!
Yes Anon @ 11:54 Elisa should move out. She knows she's being abused and aside from general TN pain and suffering I don't understand why characters subject themselves to this abuse. It's painful but also not necessary. It's been established that Elisa is the long-suffering heroine and the Toad is a horrible person do we really need to see him say more wretched things?
And while crying heroines are part of TNs, could we have less crying in the 21 century and a bit more kicking butt. We don't even have to jump to the action genre just have Elisa act a bit more like Teresa (from Teresa) to the Orange Menace and her father. That could be fun.
The Padre/Gael break up is going to be sad but that brief snippet of Fina "accidentally" spilling a bowl of soup on Flo looks promising.
I agree with all that it's high time for Elisa and Delores to move into her godfather's home.
Yola
Another masterpiece!!
I loved: For the love of all that is good! Please don’t ask her what’s wrong! What’s wrong, he asks. Hahahaha!!
Florencia has officially crossed over to the dark side. At first she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time but now she's a liar, a manipulator, a gossip monger. And she takes pleasure doing it! Those smirks behind Damian's back make me sick!
And you called it, Cynderella, on GG throwing her daughter after a potential rapist?! GG is no stranger to gossip and if even HALF of what the town is saying about Paolo is true, she should be locking Sabrina in her room, not vexed that Paolo likes Elisa!? Begona is dumb as a box of rocks.
And Dr. Whipped is turning out to be a stand up guy, despite his earlier dalliance with Nem-ho. He didn't cave on his medical principals, he gives Begona what for on a regular basis and he's trying to help Quique find his way. I'm liking him more and more.
Thanks, Cynderella!
Katy
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Karen, I am so with you on this. Elisa should be kicking butt or -- as I once suggested -- faking her death and coming back 5 years later to kick butt.
Sabrina learned Paolo's just not that into her. Ever.
We learned that Augusto still thinks Elisa is a slut to be controlled after Begonia told him about Paolo/Elisa/Damian cenote, even AFTER Edmundo told him Elisa has NEVER been with a man.
Gael doesn't trust Ingrid.
Everyone learns Florencia never was pregnant but now has "no feelings" in her legs.
UnkaPunk learned Florencia is LYING about not being able to walk.
Guido learned Florencia "was pregnant".
We learned Augusto wants to pawn Elisa off on Gael. *speculation* Will he still feel that way if Gael turns out to be Rosendo's son? Who will he pawn Elisa off on then? Enrique? *shudder*
Augusto is pure, unadulterated filth.
I hope his ugly glasses poke his eyes out. He has to pay for what he has done to Elisa.
Every one of Augusto's slut put downs on Elisa has a mention of Estefania.
So, you might not be a slut today, but you will become one because you look like and are like your mother.
Now, if Elisa is genetically a slut just like Estefania, wouldn't she slut around on Gael just like Estefania did on Augusto?
And if Estefania was such a natural slut, shouldn't he be concerned that Carmina is also slutting around? Or does not really care what Carmina does? If he does, it would only be for pride, not b/c he loves/likes Carmina. He doesn't.
Also, as Elisa pointed out, Augusto WAS kissing on Carmina while Estefania was still alive. How much of his anger is guilt projected onto Estefania?
And why hasn't anyone questioned where Estefania's jewelry went to? If she snatched them up to run away with Rosendo, why weren't they found at the car crash? Lolita saw Carmina with the jewelry but Carmina lied and said Mr. Bouvier gave her and Estefania the same jewelry.
About the jewelry: I can't see how Monsieur Bouvier would have given his daughters the same jewelry; that's wasteful. Two sisters don't always even have the same taste in jewelry. I can't imagine Lolita believing that any more than I would. Most women would see right through a lie like that.
Cynderella
I am looking forward to Alfie outing Flor. I love the fact that although they are both trying to control Dam, they are at odds and Alfie isn't taking Flor's crap. Can't wait for the hot soup "accident." Bwahahaha!
Anon207 and Cyndrella- Good job analyzing Augie. The only thing that is certain is that he will have a LOT to make up for when he eventually finds out the whole truth.
I'm happy that Kenia told Gael not to trust Ingrid. The crap is really going to hit the fan tomorrow night. I feel bad for Padre Lupe already.
I don't think Lolita ever believed Carmina about the "duplicate" jewelry. But who's going to believe her? Augie would be the only one with any cause to question the missing jewelry, but he has shut his eyes to ANY proof that contradicts the "Estefi was a cheating slut who was running away, and Elisa is the same" story. That's why he never pushed more for answers about the direction of the car, the lack of a suitcase, and the missing jewelry (if he even noticed). Lolita's info will only be useful if told to the right person who also has useful info. As I mentioned in my list the other day, a lot of people know a few things. On their own, those things aren't really proof, but added together they form a complete picture. The right people just need to start talking and sharing info. Elisa should start investigating.
The problem is that Elisa is sane, and Alfie, Augie and Carmina are CRAZY. You can't reason with crazy people, so all you can do is cry in frustration. The best solution for some of the day to day torture would be to move in with Lucio (and she did try that once), but as was also said, it would only increase the talk and gossip in town, which would make her life even harder in some respects. She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Whatever it is she does, I hope it's with fewer tears and even more of her feistiness (which I think she already has plenty of).
Yes. Many people come to tell him about his daughter's faults. They insult his daughter. He believes the lies.
I can cut someone some slack if they have bothered to try to find out the truth, but Augusto never gives Elisa a chance to show him the truth.
Augusto has never bothered to put two and two together about anything when it has been staring him right in the face. It's interesting how he thinks the people who are lying to his face have more credibility than his own daughter.
Augusto has never sought the truth about anything because abusers are always right.
I will be so disappointed with the writers if they decide to get Augusto off the hook by saying he is 'crazy' and never knew what he was doing.
Cynderella
My feelings about Augusto are similar to yours. I don't like the man, he's weak and malleable but I'm not quite ready to toss him into the furnace of Hell. He does of course need to be punished but in fact he has been and is... on a daily basis.
I would be defending Alfonsina except for that fire thing. As for her appearance, yes she's missing a few frown lines but she is nonetheless very pretty and has the best sense of style.
I'm also holding out hope for a happy ending for Flo... but please please please not with Quickie.
Sylvia, your recap for Thur was inspired. I'm so sorry I didn't get around to commenting but I was amused charmed and titillated.
Carlos
Cynderella
LOVED the Witch Mountain paragraph. Just brilliant. Every damn word.
I can't decide between my favorite scenes from this episode. Was it when Ramona threw a rock at Gabino or when Elisa let both Carmina and Pops have it about them smooching way back when? Decisions decisions.
Cynderella, I give you big props for kinda sorta sticking up for Augusto, however I'm with the Anon(s) and others who think he is sickening and unmitigated filth. I had a father who always believed me and supported me my whole life, so I think Augusto's behavior is not even close to normal. His consistent refusal to believe Elisa has everything to do with Augusto and very little to do with Elisa. All the evidence to believe his daughter is in front of him but he refuses to see or accept it. I would be cool with him dying and/or meeting a horrible demise any time now.
Gabino, well I fear it's also too late for him, but I hope he sticks around a bit longer because he is some good eye candy.
Florencia, I am still hoping she will be redeemed. Except for her recent spate of lying she really hasn't been THAT bad of a person, has she?
(Carlos, you're welcome.)
Cynderella, thanks again. I like it when you get on a roll with your subjects. Please, don't EVER hold back.
I've already, "beaten a dead horse," "shot my wad," and just generally "chewed my tobacco twice," on the Arturo thing, but it seems that with so many really reprehensible "evil-doers" in this novela and the extent of their many horrible misdeeds, I would think that if "they" are condemned to a terrible novela fiery death, that Arturo just deserves third degree burns over 20% of his body with a long recovery because he is a victim of their lies and cruelty too. I think he is a weak person who is making mistakes, not inherently evil like the rest of the MANY miscreants of La Ermita.
It's funny how bad news travels fast and good news doesn't travel at all. Elisa passed her peculiar "Clinic-Room #8" test, but she is still being treated like the town ramera by almost everyone!
Cynderella, we totally get your humor, in fact we love it. I read the recap before I watched the episode and really enjoyed hearing the "freaky music." "They played it for absolutely no reason and this was a total waste of several exclamation points and false interjections." So true........ What a fun romp your recap was, thanks!
It's not that Augusto doesn't have all of the evidence, it's that Augusto picks and chooses which evidence to believe.
Augusto is a victim & a coward.
He chooses to believe the bad stuff about Elisa & Estefania because it allows him to keep being a victim and a coward.
By moaning about Estefania betraying him 15 years after the fact, he doesn't have to get over it. He can keep being Estefania's victim.
By choosing to believe malicious gossip about his daughter instead of what the doctor told him, he can keep being Elisa's victim.
I don't give him any credit for feeding, housing & clothing her at all. The only reason he kept (and keeps) Elisa around is so he can be a victim. Elisa is a human reminder that he's Estefania's victim.
He's facing financial ruin, and instead of fighting back, he just sits with his broken glasses & busted hair and whines "WAAH WAAH WE HAVING MONEY PROBLEMS WE GON' LOSE THE LAND NO WE NOT GON' REBUILD THE GREENHOUSE CUZ THE FIRE WAS A SIGN THAT ESTEFANIA WAS A DIRTY SLUT WAAAAHHH!"
Augusto can't be redeemed until he decides to muster up the courage to stop being a victim.
I feel for Flor up to a point. Damian was there for her when her mom died, he wanted to marry her. They had a job and their whole lives waiting for them in Mexico City.
But as soon as Damian came home, he changed. Instead of being all about Florencia, he was all about this Elisa chick. Everywhere Flor turns, people talk about how bad Elisa is and how she'll take your man and her mom did just the same.
She sees this Elisa chick and the girl is beautiful. And Damian is getting in fist fights over this girl but when it comes to Flor, he gives her a Kanye-shrug. She threatens to go back to Mexico, he's like "Ok, bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out."
Florencia was being shut down and shut out by Damian for no fault of her own.
But this is where Florencia has gone wrong: Instead of gathering up her dignity and telling Damian, ya know what? Here's your ring back, I'm going back to Mexico, don't call me until you're finished with this Elisa chick.
All of this bad mouthing Elisa, fake pregnancies and fake paralysis is only going to turn Damian off to Florencia.
I know people may say "Why would Florencia have any interest in Enrique over Damian?"
Well, Enrique pays attention to Florencia, that's why. Damian doesn't. Enrique thinks Florencia is the best thing since La Anita habenero sauce. Damian doesn't.
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